One of the most powerful solar flares ever was recorded thie week 20 years ago which saw ghostly auroras appear as far south from the North Pole as Florida. We think it's has a profound effect on the music business this week along with some other world events. Needless to say, doomsday preppers were in heaven.
Ja Rule rears his ugly head as the herpes of music gives everyone the clap back, Lord Worm is rehired by Cryptopsy and Chingy goes to the Holidae Inn as we attempt to pair him up with a little tea pot courtesy of Mother Goose.
Plus we've got the premiere of the Average Joe show, which proves that nice guys come last and Arrested Development becomes the freshest new comedy series to grace our sets.
All that and a smidge more!
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
One of the most powerful solar flares ever was recorded thie week 20 years ago which saw ghostly auroras appear as far south from the North Pole as Florida. We think it's has a profound effect on the music business this week along with some other world events. Needless to say, doomsday preppers were in heaven.
Ja Rule rears his ugly head as the herpes of music gives everyone the clap back, Lord Worm is rehired by Cryptopsy and Chingy goes to the Holidae Inn as we attempt to pair him up with a little tea pot courtesy of Mother Goose.
Plus we've got the premiere of the Average Joe show, which proves that nice guys come last and Arrested Development becomes the freshest new comedy series to grace our sets.
All that and a smidge more!
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
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The year is 2003. Tom is your first friend on MySpace. There is a cursed dollar on iTunes. The Terminator becomes the Governator and nobody can find those weapons of mass destruction. T -20. Rewind 20 years with Joe and week of 2000 and 2320. The rest is history. Britney bitch -20. Need to nominate two housemates. If you think this stuff is full of crap, give me that.
Welcome to Jackass.
Hey, Wendy. Hello. And thanks for joining us for another episode of T -20. The podcast where we rewind to this week 20 years ago. Hence the title. T -20 with your hosts, Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel. Got possessed by a newsreader. Yeah. Like a projected sentence in a giant event. yeah. Said he's very young. I was venting my Yana.
Let's not. Thanks. Next time, popularity is probably sure that's a bit indecent. I apologize. We're rewinding to the second through to the 8th of November in 2003. This week, kicking off with a bit of a solar storm. The results were coronal mass ejections, the largest explosions in the solar system, able to launch up to 10 billion tonnes of electrified gas into space and cause some of the ghoulish effects we felt here on Earth is a coronal mass ejection.
What happens after the event? You wanna watch out for those ejections? Maybe we don't. Well, it's El Al second run at will it nursery rhyme. Well, are looking at a new chimney really? This week, 20 years ago. And I think I'm going to put it to the tests. We looked at the dolly and he shook his hand. He said, Miss Paley put her straight to bed.
He wrote on the pad for a pale, pale pink. I'll be back in the morning for my dollar, dollar bills. Young dollar. Billion dollar bill, y'all. What, you two? It's one of our final moments there on the podcast where we we so white. Yes. So she's been accused of singing, singing nursery rhymes. Yes. Sounding songs. And that was right there.
He's got a new release this week, so we will put it to the test in our brand new segment. Will it be used for nursery rhyme? Yes. Yes, I'll say yes. It's gonna be great. Stick around. Look up. Your Mother Goose is Mother Goose even not very good with plurals anyway. dear. And a brand new reality show premieres this week, 20 years ago.
I like the sound of this. The results were coronal mass ejection that did snow on the reality. I tell you, since we're not going to get a PG rating with that. Here we go. You may not have the best looks, but as long as you believe in yourself, that's what's important. Be who you are and don't let anybody tell you differently.
She knows that I'm not what she's looking for. It hurts because you run every night. You know what else? Yes. You know what else hurts? But when you coronal mass ejections. Quite painful. I think that would hurt. Yes. When you show your kids and artifacts from back in the day and they just have no idea what it is.
Yes. Like our son, for example, found some seeds. He throws a drink coaster. Really? Yes. That's good. Can I put my drink on that? Well, look, not if it's my side. No, no. If it's Britney. Nicholas. Yes. Yes. Not too far from the truth. I used to use promotional copies when I worked in the radio station for a drink coasters all the time.
And, you know, if he'd gone past the great guys down the road front yard, he used them to keep the birds off the the fruit trees. Do you remember? I'm really disappointed that this doesn't happen anymore. Remember when people used to fill up soft drink bottles with water and put it around their plants so the dogs wouldn't weigh on the dogs?
You got to be like these bottles filled with water. Yes. I have not seen that since the 18th nanny used to do that all the time to do it. I don't. Did you? We used to do it. Yes, I do. And I think in the eighties, though, dogs used to just roam. You kept the. You just let your dogs run around the street back in the eighties.
Why would a soft why would a dog be like a buster egg to take a whiz? I can't go there because as a fan, two bottles filled with water. Yes. It's had the label removed and it's full of clear liquid. I better not go to the toilet. Wouldn't it make you want to go to the toilet? Because the dog's like, I see some liquid.
God, I'm really going to go have the opposite of dunno. But I reckon if they found out that's what the humans were trying to do, they probably would have the theory behind that. And can someone bring it back. No. I feel like it's a fire hazard. Like if the sun's rays beat down on the on the bottle and it magnifies the sun's rays into a concentrated spot on the grass, it might burn it so good.
And then I saw this. I saw this tweet. Well, nothing, no tweets anymore. What is it, cold in there? Sorry, it's. I saw an X. Yeah. I had crossed the street if I saw my X. You know what? I have not updated my app because I refused to call it X. I've still got it is the Twitter.
I won't update it. Still Twitter on my phone and it's going to stay that way forever. You get no, never update anything. It's not status the Twitter. So the tweet is stay inside, Don't go anywhere. Yes. Make sure you fool those waterfalls off. Stick them on the front lawn so the dogs don't play on your lawn. And then you've also got some hydration.
If it's if you need it, if you need some more desperate cases emergency, go at the front and drink the plant. What did you see on the X? On the no on the tweeter? Graham Quick. So said showed my seven year old an Etch a sketch and said this is what Daddy played with growing up. And this little angel asked me if it was a caveman iPad.
Isn't that great? He's got find the truth there. It has been an iPad, but we've actually been busted for an accuracy and inaccuracy in something back in the day. I'm surprised we don't get busted for inaccuracies all the time, but we're so we're so accurate. Sure. That's a michael. Michael discovered the podcast a little while back. I met Michael at a barbecue masterclass, and and we became friends on the Facebook, which is still called not the Facebook or the of.
And he found out that we had a podcast so he's been going through it and he's like mid 2002 at the moment, so. Okay. What are you behind what are the chances that he's still listening when he gets It's probably not going to get to this episode. Yes, but if you do, thank you. But he has he has called us out for an inaccuracy.
And I was hoping, like because I knew this and I was going know to pick up on this because it was very difficult for me to find this relic. Yeah. To feature it out. So it's got to do with our logo, right? I was after a very specific cassette tape and it took a lot of work and I had to do a bit of photoshopping.
And anyway, we got there and he's called us out and he's 100% accurate. You've got a message. Did you want to read the message? Well, the message the message says got on to this late and playing catch up, says Michael, are you being Yana again, Amelie up to 2002. Just let me say. Yeah. Okay, great. Piers, is it wrong that your cassette tape logo upsets me?
If any of my tapes had come out like that, it meant a full disassembly, not just a pencil. And he's 100% correct. Yes, he is correct, because we've got the pencil in the tape to show that, you know, you could rewind the tape using a pencil. But the way that the tape is actually coming out of the cassette to rewind it and on it have to be coming out between two in the center or usually just between just between two of the little.
Not correct. Not over the top of it, but it's coming out of all of them. And he's very correct in that a pencil ain't going to help you there. No, The tapes rooted. Yes, basically. So thank you for pointing that out. And perhaps maybe next season, maybe next season we could have a big reveal. Maybe I could get on the Photoshop and work my magic.
Well, I can't unsee it. I know it. Well, I knew it. I knew it. But I thought, it's fine. No, no, no. Well, I don't know about Photoshop. Maybe back to the drawing board or in this case, a nature sketch. It is time for the Hunchback and Dispatch Clue for this week. I've got to stop doing that. I keep venting my piano all over the show, and I'm going to ruin it.
A celebrity having a birthday, not just this time 20 years ago, but now as well, has a birthday every year, in fact. Wow. Yeah. And he said this I have relapsing remitting Ms., which is kind of the it's the most common and the least aggressive. So once you kind of learn about it, I was like, okay. So it's just a bit of lifestyle change, but I can live with that.
Yeah, Yeah. Do you want to hear that one again? Yes, I have relapsing remitting Ms., which is kind of the it's the most common and the least aggressive. So once you kind of learn about it, I was like, okay. So it's just a bit of lifestyle change, but I can live with that. Yeah, a lifestyle change for that person was probably long overdue and he's old man as well.
And that's all I'll say about that. We'll get to that at the end of the show for November 2003. We have one of the most powerful solar flares recorded. Is that a fact? It is a fact. It is. That's why it's in the news, not fake news. It's often referred to as the Halloween solar storm. It ran for a little while.
I think it started on the 28th of October, running through to the 4th of November 2003. Had a couple of things going on. There was a massive solar flare and a coronal mass ejection. Yes, a C emission ACM injection from the sun. Now solar flares are one of the things when I watch doomsday preppers, so they're worried about things like MP attacks and solar flares, which is done by like, you know, nefarious agents.
Yes, on earth. But a solar flare is one of the things that they're concerned about because apparently that can bring things screeching to a halt as well. If it's big enough, this sudden bursts of energy and radiation from the sun's surface and this particular one was classified as an x 17.2 class event, Right. Making it one of the most powerful ever recorded.
Now they categorize based on their X-ray output and an X 17.2 is exceptionally intense. Very intense. Yes. So if you were exposed to it for a prolonged period of time, that could be quite problematic. And then the ejection side of it. Yes. So the CMA, they're massive clouds of charged particles and magnetic fields that are then ejected into space as a result of the solar flare.
There's a lot going on. You doing science, There's a lot going. It's got something to do with the sunspots as well. The spots on the sun, I think, are where the flares occur or something. All right. I thought that you may notice that things that you have on your forearms where you've got to keep going. Now, the regular skin checks a real problem with my son.
I don't I'm just concerned for your well-being. That's not that's not the skin cancer. It's the moles and the freckles. The same sorts of Fine. If I do nothing, just pay attention. It's a sun. Look, it's a good thing you went tanning when the solar flare was happening. That's all I'm saying. The effects of these storms on the Earth were ghoulish enough that we had to reroute aircraft.
It affected satellite systems and communications actually caused a power outage in Sweden for about an hour. But I think generally the public was very excited to see the ghostly or that were created in the night sky. The aurora are normally limited to higher latitudes. And so these storms were so powerful that they created Aurora that could be seen as far south as Florida.
So you can imagine seeing these ghostly figures haunting the night sky. And that was Holly Gilbert, a scientist from NASA who knows far more about solar flares than you or I, who really love to take the Halloween angle by the sounds of that. Well, this is the thing. It happened around Halloween and it was in the northern Hemisphere.
And they were all very excited because you could see these ghostly auroras like the aurora borealis as far down as Florida. Normally you can only see the auroras up in the polar regions very far north. So it was quite exciting at a very interesting time of the year. So some people who probably aren't all that familiar with coronal mass ejections would have been quite disturbed.
Yes, very alarmed. Get down in your bunker. There's a mass ejection occurring. Exactly. So it was observed and felt on earth. And I think a couple of observatories caught wind of it and one of them was actually damaged by the activity. As she alluded to, radio communications were affected, satellite operations experienced anomalies. I think they told a lot of planes were grounded, but they were also told to avoid the high altitudes because particularly around the polar regions, it could affect the.
That's really scary. That's very scary. Imagine if you were in a plane that was full of the skies and then there was also the power outage in Sweden. So is that the thing? Like we haven't really experienced a lot of these. Well. Well, a lot of these. No, not at that level. Yeah. So we kind of don't know what's going to happen because they are cyclical and I think it's sort of between nine and 15 years.
Yeah, we get one. But the big ones are sort of every 50 years is a relatively big one. And then every 150 years is like a super big and have magnetic stuff and radiation is, you know, like it's like when you, when you do working appearance at the TV or the radio station, you bulker both right? And you leave you watch on a do feel like this is bulky and it breaks your watch.
So if you have that level of radiation or magnetism firing at the earth from the sun, all of a sudden anything that's electronic may potentially itself. Astronauts aboard the International Space Station had to stay in sites to protect themselves against the increased radiation levels. And then, like you said, the auroras, the northern and southern lights were much more visible than they had ever been before.
I wonder then, when we have a big one. Yeah, maybe you break the internet. Imagine if it broke the internet. What would we all do? It's not necessarily a bad thing. I would go outside, start talking to your neighbor. Part of me would like that to happen just to see how we all cope. And then probably after 5 minutes, I'd hate it.
Yeah, the radiation probably would radiate probably more than a couple of minutes in the Internet. Yeah. So I think it's every year and every 9 to 14 years, we have a just a general run of the mill one. The geomagnetic storm, I believe it's called. Yeah, yeah, something like that. And then the extreme ones are every 50 years.
Thank you. And then very extreme every 150 years. And the biggest risk of these storms is more not so much the Internet, more the power grids. And what it can do is trigger voltage collapse. And if it damages enough of the transformers, then that could be quite catastrophic depending on the time of year. Big blackouts. But it could take a long time because it's not just going to be in one area.
If it's strong enough, it could happen right across the board. So there's no backup generators then, and it could take a long time to then restore power so everyone would just go crazy and they'd be right. Well, that is correct. And this is a thing that the doomsday preppers they correct in that have been for having their bunker with their own self-sufficient power sources.
The theory's off the grid. The theory is and don't quote me on it, because I've heard it anecdotally in conversation with a bunch of people down the pub or something like that. Do they have bunkers? No, they don't have bunkers, but they are, you know, weird. And so it's that society would collapse if you turn the power off.
yes, I've read the power of this site. I've read a thesis and I think it's it's about two weeks and everyone goes a little bit crazy. And then four weeks we're all just like, I had ten days. So you've read a thesis? I went to the pub. I think you're probably. I think you've seen the weed because I got a be while I was going.
Okay, we'll go by the pub analysis. Yeah. It doesn't take long for societies to descend into chaos when supply chains are cut off. So let's get a bunker. I feel like it's happening more long term Anyway. It's a slow descent into chaos at the moment that we're all on over the music. Yes. Let's start with some music news because there's a lot of people leaving bed and then coming back and yeah, a lot of shuffling going on.
So starting with fifth November crypto say creep Topsy crypto. Topsy Yeah, like autopsy, but crypto. I like crypto better. Yeah. They re higher. Lord Worm. Yes Lord Worm. He's a creep. Topsy You're a death metal band I believe. Death metal. I don't know. It's sort of death metal. Lord Worm is a character, a singer for the band who walks around on stage with a chalice full of worms.
that he eats, but also that he serves up like communion to people in the crowd. It's and to the people in the crowd, they they partake. Yeah, the crowd. Is it a special Are they not just earthworms, but have garlic worms out of the ground now they're alive. Earthworms? yeah. And they're not like wafers. I mean, you know, they're not type worms as well, because how do you know that?
Somebody's been in a group, Topsy. They start scooting on the carpet, scratching their bums. Well, Lord Worm is back. So great news on the system. Make sure you take convention before you go and see Coop. Topsy. Yes. Good. Good advice. Bad news for Evanescence on 1st of November. Lead guitarist and founding member Ben Moody leaves the band while they're on their first world tour.
I couldn't hack it. I don't think anyone cares really. That band is Amy Leigh. Let's face it. I was like, Who is Ben Bale and who's been mooted to be, obviously, you know, Moody by name. Moody by nature, couldn't handle the tour, couldn't get on with anyone, and off he goes by, bring in somebody else, bring in the replacement guitarist on sixth November Marco Aro quits is vocalist position in the haunted Thorogood band as well.
Very heavy. But they have worms on stage. No, they don't have ones on stage. The haunted would be a better fit for worms. I don't know. I mean a dude called Lord Worm is pretty much He's the Lord of the Worms. Okay? These guys are just the haunted, okay? So and so they rehire their first vocalist, their original vocalist, which is haunting in itself anyway.
And then on the 7th of November, bassist Steve Fuzz come back, is fired from Disturbed as a result of personality clashes with others in the band. What a tumultuous week. just for a lot of bands, you know. But maybe you know what? I reckon it was that damn solar flare. It just. Yes, it messed with them all.
Messed with all the magnetic poles in the. I mean, it can't just be affecting the planet's magnetism within their bodies. Well, there's electricity in the nervous system, so I feel like they just like bulk erased their niceness. Yeah, everyone just went a bit stupid. And it affected the music world as well. And it's a side effect of the music world from a stupidity point of view.
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So much so that General released an album. So there you go. I mean, if that's not proof of a solar flare ruining humanity, I don't know what is. So what is this album? Tell us about it. Tell us. No, no, I'm not. You can bloody my thanks. The fifth studio album featuring Clap Back. This is the only single that is actually released from this album and it's the diss track aimed at 50 Cent and Eminem by court system and the contact with him lot Todd and Bob Ferguson.
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Much worse. It could be hard to describe masks and gloves at the moment, so I'm boxed up with the books. But the freaks, no, the screaming out loud court proceedings, which I've got the freak on a bit. I've got this question to handle this all these weeks. This is the this is something I'm not entirely familiar with what he was even saying there.
That's we're going to clap back with him. Clap. But I don't know if it is a distraction or is it another SDR that he's caught? It's not the clap. Clap back. No, he's herpes. He says, sorry. He's a bit of both. Sexually transmitted diseases. My bad. Later this month if you care and if you are jarule fan he's taking part in the my 2000 playlist.
That's what it's called my 2000 playlist tour with Ashanti, Nelly and T.I.. Really? Where is that? Is that in Australia? No, it's in the States. good. I know that Nelly and Ashanti are a thing. Really going steady at the moment. Isn't that great? I love that. On to you. I love that. I love that the I thought she would have ended up with Darryl because they were muttering, Yeah, but no, her and Nelly, I think.
I think they were good friends early 2000. Is that right? But now they going steady the romance beautiful involved all of these years later. Yes. Yes. Well, I hope she doesn't get the clap back if she's hanging out with Nelly after being with Ja Rule. Anyway. I don't know. Allegedly. Okay. So number one single in Australia are still the idols, which is a bad news for the Arias next year.
Number one in the UK. Who's that of Fatman scoop Be faithful. Well, that's stressful song. No, I'm playing that one too much. we've done everything in reverse. It's all. It's really discombobulated. It's the solar flare. Magnetic north is magnetic. So the Poles have flipped, and I feel like the aurora is borealis ing you. So let's do the top five.
So before you borealis me to death. Hi. I'm here without you, baby. But just to show my my think about you lay back and I dream about you all the time. I'm here without you before and no, no, no, no, no, no. You way to. When I was three years old and seven at the holiday, we drink, drink only water.
You do not need to be for me. One thing we want everybody to gain. Stop, drop to now move. You just like that. We're not, you know, just like that. When you could just tell. Bring that back by saying I love them I think covered yes they is. I think about you all the time with my that he had a day goes by with well the coronal mass ejection seems to have let some white people into the charts which we can we'll talk more about them next week because there's more more important matters.
But what's who was that in the top foot here? Were that two Matchbox 23 toys, that same thing. That's why to people, if anyone wants to know. Yes, get low. Littlejohn in at number four Holiday Inn is a new entry as well Changi stand up Ludacris and baby boy Slim number one by Beyoncé. But let's have a chat about holiday cheer.
I don't mind this song. I think it's pretty fun. Pretty fun. It's about a bunch of dudes going to a hotel. What you doing? Well, nothing chilling at that. Nothing you can talk about on a PG podcast, but maybe anyway, already we go and sit in at a Holiday Inn hotel in Trincomalee. Don't you go to bed for me?
One thing you want everybody for GameStop. Drop Kaboom, baby. Kaboom. That's Luda, Ludacris. Ludacris is on there. Snoop Dogg is on there and Ching. But it is Chinese song. It is the second single from his debut studio album, Jackpot and has been credited with making the Holiday Inn hotel chain cool again. Is that right? He brought back the Holiday Inn.
Well done. Singing. Yeah, well, I mean, Holiday Inns, it's like a it's not the budget of budget, but is it cheaper? I think they're like they're a step up from flag your golden chain. I think I stayed at a Holiday Inn when I was in the States. It was all right. We stayed at one it said table where we stayed at one and Sydney Airport before we went on our trip to the Gold Coast.
that's Pauline. And that was very we stayed at the Holiday Inn in Port Macquarie. Thank you very much. Wow. It's everywhere at cocktails. There's a good time. I slept in the car battery, remember? I left the lights on. That's right. Yes, indeed. And we saw someone in the next room picking their nose, remember? look. So in the next room someone was picking.
They. What goes on at the Holiday Inn? Luxury stays at the Holiday Inn quite often picking winners at the Holiday Inn. It makes it number three on the hot 100 and number two on the US hot rap songs and 13 on the ARIA charts here in Australia. Certified gold in both the US and Australia. So what's it about?
She said that they used to do a lot at the Holiday Inn back in his teenage days in his twenties. They would have hotel parties, they'd drink, they'd smoke, they'd do what teenagers in their right mind is letting somebody, a teenager singing coaching book. Yeah, I'm going to. They have some idea You Mr. Chimney. you're 15. Okay.
You're having a party. And there's the drinking and the security. you lose the deposit? Yes. Yes, you will. Anyway, Hey said it organically came together during a studio visit from a young lady who he was seeing at the time. And then he got her to say into the microphone what you're doing. And then he was like Nelson chillin at the holiday Inn.
And that's how the hook was born. What you doing? Being interrogated. Too many questions. Yeah. He us. What we going to do? Yes. I mean, this is too much. Yes, but who cares? The biggest question we have is will it nursery rhyme? That is the biggest question. So back when just to give a little bit of context, a bit of back story back when right there entered the charts we discussed that the critics were saying that Chinese music was described as simplistic lyrics delivered in a sing sung nursery rhyme style.
And we put that to the test we did, and it was proven as fact. It will nursery rhyme. That's right. With right there. The song right there goes very, very well with the Mother Goose nursery rhyme. Miss Polly had a dolly. Yes, Perfectly perfect. Seamlessly. Yes. So let's put Holiday into the test. Are you ready? All right. I'm o bursting.
You ready? Ooh, You got some bombers? Turn me. I'm a little teapot. Short and stout. Here is my handle. Here is myself. When I get all steamed, hear me shout, cheer me over and pull me how I should go. I'm a very special tea. But this is true. Here's an example of what I can do. What we can do.
I can change my hand or I might stop, will tip me over, Pull me out. Stop, drop kaboom baby lifting can jiggle Everybody's jiggling with limping. There we go. Yes verifies it can nursery rhyme How can we only just be arriving at entertainment after everything that has transpired so much entertainment. so little time in the movies. Scary movie is number one at the US box office and Intolerable Cruelty is number one at the Australian box office.
And we've already talked about the Clooney movie. Yeah, yeah. So listen to TV, straight to TV. This sitcom is fabulous. It's so funny and I've watched quite a few seasons of it, but then I never finished it and I can't, for the life of me, understand why I didn't mention a writers strike. Did it move over to a strike?
Was it canceled? I'm not sure. I need to go back and look at my history. But on the 2nd of November, the US sitcom Arrested Development premiered. This is Michael Bluth. For ten years, he's worked for his father's company, waiting to be made a partner. And right now he's happy because this is Michael's mother. Look what they've done, Michael.
She isn't happy. Look what the homosexuals have done to me. You can't just calm that out and reset. Currently, she's upset that her husband's retirement party is being upstaged by a group of gay protesters. You want to get out everything. And it was so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire. Good grief.
Not all homosexuals are flamboyant. my God. I have the exact same clothes. This is Michael's twin sister, Lindsay. I like it better on him. And this is Jobe, Michael's oldest brother. So this is the magic trick, Collusion. Michael. Trick is something a whore does for money. It was a very, very good show. Star Jason Bateman, Michael, Sarah, Portia de Rossi, Will Arnett and David Cross.
So David Cross was the never new boss. I love that scene. So in the Blue Man Group. Yes. Yeah, I'm blue. I love the scene where Tobias as I never knew he's got his tail around him after he's had a shower and she rips the towel off him and he's wearing a pair of David denim shorts. City runs into the closet.
It's such a good show. And which is a joke. So he's name was George Oskar Blues the second. But they called him Joe. Yes, but it was spelt gulp. Gulp, jab. Yes, Segway with his name on the front of it. And it was thanks to this show that you bought me a birthday present to go on a Segway tour.
Yes, that's right. In Sydney, if it wasn't for this show, we would have never ridden Segways. And wasn't that a fun day? Was It was amusing. It was funny when you stacked it. Yes, I started. You were showing us. So the question is, can you do donuts on a Segway? The answer is yes. No, until you can't anymore and you end up on the pavements.
But anyway, I really enjoyed myself doing that too. Thankfully, I'd signed a waiver for the company. Yes. Anyway, so Arrested Development follows these family who are very dysfunctional and also. Well, they were. Well, isn't that right? Didn't they, Dad? Go to jail? I think they lost all their money. Yes. Yes. And it was an interesting way in which it was presented.
It was quite stylized. There was some handheld camera work, a lot of voiceover narration as well. VOICEOVER Ronnie, was that yes. Richard Reynolds Yes, yes. And it was set in in California and received critical acclaim. It won six primetime Emmy Awards, a Golden Globe Award, and it was one of those ones that had a bit of a cult following as well.
I remember the car. I remember you didn't have a hard drive. Drive. This is from the plane. That was great. That was great. And I liked George Michael, the son, Michael, Sarah. He was great. What was the cause in that? He had a crash course in love with these. What was her name? I can't remember. It's been so long since I've seen such a good show.
This is one of the shows that we need to come back around on and finish it again or even start again. And I think it influenced shows like 30 Rock and Community with the way in which it was shot. Okay, this is why you didn't. It's not that you didn't finish it. It ran for three seasons. We saw the three seasons on Fox, although we never said it was rebooted on Netflix in 2013.
Yeah, see, that's too long. And then Netflix did a couple of subsequent seasons in 2018 and 2019. That's a long time between seasons. All right. Yeah. So even if they did come back to it in 2013, I'd probably think that I need to watch the first three seasons again. Stupid TV. That's really annoying. Great show. But anyway, speaking of stupid TV, how about this year?
Average Joe, an American reality television show, premieres. Now, this is great because this is like The Bachelor, but not quite all The Bachelorette even, but not quite. When we first met Larisa, she was arriving in Hawaii, moving into a secluded island paradise and expecting to meet eligible men from around the country who had come to win her heart.
I came here hoping that I could find the love of my life, and if that happens, it would be great. And then it was time. The night she was introduced to the bus of bachelors who turned out to be average Joes. How are you? She's good. And myself and I was definitely the nerd. I have a lot of friends who are girls.
I know they're all friends. And by who am I? By their first name. Do you guys take these guys in and primped them so that they look even more dorky? It's so good. It's such a good premise for a show. So it's 18 to 20 ordinary guys. But she thinks she thinks when she goes on this show that she's going to find her life partner, it's going to be some big hunky millionaire.
Well, to do guy, that's like going to like someone from a Gillette commercial, right? That's only had some guys. Yeah, it was brief. Yeah, but no, she no, it's just normal girls, many overweight, underweight, nerdy squids. She gets normal guys. This is no, this is what the show says. Not this is not my very normal guys. And I feel like maybe this show was a bit of a stepping stone to beating the geek.
Maybe this is where that that show came from. But the thing with this one was there was a twist. It was a bit meaner. It was very mean. I did like this twist partway through this show all through the season, more conventionally handsome, eligible hunks entered the show and then competed with the average Joes. And they were afraid.
So you had two Joes? Yeah. And then the guys that came in were called the studs or the Hunks. I don't like that. See, I do. I don't like that because. Well. Well then they show their true colors don't they. Right. Yes. What are they going to pick. There's an opportunity for things to go south pretty rapidly for our bachelorette.
If she so happens to choose somebody based on their looks than their personality, because it's a guy, you'd have to go for the Joey, you know? exactly. It's like, you know, I don't really care what he looks like. I'm just after a great sense of humor and I call it on that. So. H Yeah, not true. No.
You want chiseled abs and a massive the show is marketed to have this implied moral subtext. Yeah. Beauty was only skin deep, and that personality could ultimately triumph over looks. However, in Average Joe season one, Milana chose Jason Peoples one of the studs over Adam Missy the last remaining just in average Joe Hawaii Larisa chooses attractive Jill Hiatt over average Joe Bryan worth a few days later she's on a honeymoon because I think that surprised like a honeymoon, not a real honeymoon, but like you go away together in a honeymoon esque situation.
Yeah. And Larissa tells Gil that she'd once dated Fabio, causing Gil to leave her in disgust. Why? Was he okay? Because she dated Fabio, the most beautiful man in the whole. Isn't that amazing? He's like, I think that says, All right, I'm leaving. Well, time is a bitch, isn't it? And so is Larissa. we're flying through it literally and figuratively.
It's like, thing in literature. Let's. Yes, Yes. This the book. The book this week, The New York Times best seller, one that we definitely haven't read because we've had a few that you've read, which is just not Andre not did not write this. No, not a fan of Patricia Cornwall. Well, I've heard the name, but I don't know what style Patricia writes in.
I think she's like mystery, detective, drama, thriller This book is called Blowfly. It's a series, I think. Okay, here we go. Now we know what it is. It's a series featuring forensic pathologist Dr. Kay and Blowfly is book 12 in the series on board already 12 books. Yeah. If you were Loretta from down the pub, she'd be like Kay Scarpetta.
They're pronunciations. Do you want a synopsis here? We would love a synopsis. In Blowfly, Kay Scarpetta stands at the Threshold of a new life after her work as Virginia's chief medical examiner has come to a jarring end. it's come to a jarring end. Ouch. At the close of the last precinct, she knew she would have to leave Richmond if she were to find any peace.
She feared that she was about to be fired by the governor. You're fired. More alarming, she was hounded in the media and in the courtroom for what some claimed was her involvement in the murder of a deputy police chief. So Scarpetta packed up her belongings and set out for the warmth and solace of the Florida sun did. Today, I'm going to the Florida Sudden.
She is settling into a new life as a private forensic consultant and is deep into a case that has left colleagues in Louisiana profoundly disturbed. A woman is found dead in a seedy hotel dressed to go out keys in her hand, Her history of blackouts and her violent outbursts while under their spell are far more questions and clues about the cause of her death.
Then Scarpetta received news that Chiles, heir to the Corps, Jean Baptiste Rendon, the victim, an unrepentant wolf man who pursued her to her very doorstep, asks to see her. Hello, Scarpetta It is me, Jean Baptiste, the wolf Man. I am on your doorstep from his cell on death row. he's not on the doorstep. So there's. I should have pre read this.
He demands an audience with the legendary Doctor Scarpetta, only to her. Will he tell the secret he knows the authorities desire the evidence that will bring a global investigation to a swift conclusion. Scarpetta, her niece, Lucy, and her colleague, Detective Pete Marino, are left to wonder, I do That voice edible after all the death and destruction, what sort of end game violent psychopath habit.
Bite it. Could this request be somehow related to the Louisiana case are still going on One more paragraph family by her side, Scarpetta must unravel a twisting conspiracy with an international rethink about the struggle for life, a blow that will force her to question the loyalty and trust of all she holds. Dear Jesus, if you hadn't had a coughing attack, you would have finished up right at that really pivotal moment in the music.
It would have been very it was very ambiguous. You keep saying Scarpetta like that. It's it's troublesome. Yes. Not good for the wife. Anyway. I thought I did really well. Margaret. One star. Yeah. I didn't recognize that. I'd already read this when I found it in a charity show. This is one of the ones where Cornwell's lost the plot completely, as far as I'm concerned.
Margaret, one star. You've read it before he found it. It's it for of the first reading or the second reading is my question. This book is far too much of Lucy, possibly the least attractive heroine ever created. And Benton Wesley Stupid name open bracket. Yes, I'm that childish, but some names simply preclude that you're ever finding a person sexually attractive.
They should point this out in the obs slash guide, Kleenex, close brackets. It's possibly even more unlikable than Lucy. I'm sorry, Margaret, one star. But the fact that you have read this before then would send you for your and then you paid good money for it a second time. And if you already hated it, why did you buy it again?
You're an idiot. Good money. That was hopefully going to a good cause. It was a decent charity show. So that's fine. That's okay. That's okay. But you're an idiot. Yes, I like that. She wants the obstetrician and gynecologist clinics to say, don't call your kid, Wesley. Pay. Say thanks, Margaret. Yeah. They should put posters on the wall. Amy One star hated what she did to the characters in this book.
Very happy with Patricia at the moment. they know each other. Okay. First name basis. Amy One star. Patricia Cornwell. Yes. Trish treats the dish she calls her. Yeah. M one star. Dear self, stop doing this to yourself. that's. That's already kids reading these. Terrible. That's like a Megadeth said. You got to be really good to escape pleasure and just end up frustrating you.
So sincerely, me. Peace. Just so you don't feel badly. You did actually enjoy the first in the series because there was an intensely smart sciencey protagonist who was independent and strong in the plot, moved along nicely. The writing was on the right side of mediocre, so it was pleasant. Pleasant? Ben One star sums it up very nicely in his review.
You ready? Yes. Pants crapping. Awful. Ben, Right? It's a New York Times bestseller again with the program. Time for the Hatch. As much as Dispatches segment, it's been a bit of a whirlwind episode, this one, a bit of a quiet week, but we've done the best with what we've got, and I feel like our rap game is improving every time she puts out a single so good so we'll just do this.
The clue this week was a celebrity having a birthday. Who said this? I have relapsing remitting Ms., which is kind of the it's the most common and the least aggressive. So once you kind of learn about it, I was like, okay. So it's just a bit of lifestyle change, but I can live with that Now, if you said Jack Osborne, you'd be correct, but you don't win a prize.
No, no prize is actually the first correct caller can get a copy of Patricia Cornwell's. New Jack Osborne. 8th of November is his birthday. English media personality, obviously son of Ozzy Osborne and Sharon Osborne. He starred in the series The Osborne's, which ran from 2002 to 2005 along with the fam and obviously his sister Kelly. He's then moved into more of a fitness travel reporter type careers, a lot of TV presenting.
He turned his life around. He was very much I mean, Sam hit Jack Osborne pretty early around the time of the Osborne's. He was quite drug dependent, wasn't he? I think by the end of it and sort of gotten into the party scene. Yeah. As the youngsters in Hollywood do so well. So he was maybe a little bit more than most.
Yeah. And then he kind of just pulled out of it a little bit. I guess maybe he saw like, you know, what his future looked like when he looked at his dad and just went, I don't think I want to go down that road. Yeah. And one show we watch that Adrenaline Junkie one. Yeah. Ran from 2005. That was the one where he climbed that big hill.
Yeah. L El Capitan. El Capitan, the captain and Captain Capital. That was. I think I really started liking him through that. I thought he was great. I thought it was a great person. Yes. These people, these young people live their lives, their early lives in the public eye. Yes. God, I think about, you know, if I was his age and I was in the public eye and no one needs to see that 100%, I couldn't agree with you more.
So, indeed, Adrenaline junkie, that was in 2005 to 2009. He did Saving Planet Earth on the BBC in 2007, and he traveled the world with Ozzy, who loved the History Channel. So they did a series called series called Ozzy and Jack's World Tour, which is great. He also directed the I think he directed the documentary about Ozzy called God Bless Ozzy Osbourne.
Or was it God save Ozzy Osbourne? I can't remember. Well, thank God for Ozzy Osbourne or something. Anyway, look it up. It's good. And it's it's it's awesome because it's him paying tribute to his father, which I think is wonderful. Like, if you going to get somebody to tell your story in documentary form, I mean, how great is it to be, you know, to have your son do it, which I think is great.
He also had a cameo in Dawson's Creek. Yeah, he is in the Mary-Kate and Ashley movie 0 Minutes. Wow. Small cameo there. And did you know this? He punched on with Bradley from S Club seven in a celebrity boxing match. What's really he was before celebrity boxing. he won just eight He beat this club seven got very good very glad in 2012.
And you would have heard that grab that he announced that he had been diagnosed with relapsing remitting multiple sclerosis and he'd experienced symptoms for a lot of years, including blindness in one eye. So he had like that that sort of that cigar shaped blindness. And he can only see out of his peripheral vision. And that got progressively worse.
Then he got nominees legs, and then he had problems with his bladder and he's bowel and stomach and all that sort of stuff. And he thought it might have been the result of his misspent youth. But no, it was actually multiple sclerosis. And they he said that, you know, a couple of lifestyle changes and it was manageable, but it actually happened at the same time that he's first child was born.
So he had to manage M.S. with fatherhood at the same time. Wow. And he did it with style and aplomb. And these days he's he's podcast, he's done he does so many different podcasts and he's got one out now where the Osbornes are doing a podcast together again. And it's Jack and Kelly and Sharon and Ozzy sitting around podcasting and I think it's wonderful.
That would be great. And he's kind of the host of it and he I love Jack Osborne. I think he's a great kid. He's turned into a fine young man. Yes. So happy birthday, Jack. If ever you want to be on our podcast or promote it, that'd be wonderful. Anyway, that is the end. If you want to promote the podcast, you can tell your friends and you can come and find us on the socials during the week.
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These are only tiny little pieces. Anyway, what's happening next week? Next week is going to be a bit of a heavy wake. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I think next week is going to come with a bit of a trigger warning. We are talking about an infamous tape that is leaked. Yes. This time 20 years ago. We have an untimely death of a really big heart threat from the early 2000s.
We also have a lot of album releases, including one from Stay out of It. Nicola Shay. God. Well, look, it was the early 2000s. It was not all in Giggles. Yes. So join us next week for more than giggles. Thank you very much for listening to T -20. We'll see you next week, but thanks for taking the time to rewind.
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