Britney Spears gets married and divorced in Vegas!

It's the wedding of the year already, Britney Spears goes on a bender in Vegas, get's married and divorced all in the same weekend! It really is the perfect start to 2004! 

Over in the Middle East construction begins on the world's tallest building, The Burj Khalifa. While it still remains a spectacular feat of engineering it has one terrible flaw that has to do with poop. 

While we're on the subject of big things, the world's largest ocean liner RMS Queen Mary 2 makes it's maiden voyage. 

On a more sombre note over in the UK the corner's inquest into the death of Proncess Diana finally gets underway. 

In music we don;t know Alicia Key's name over on the Billboard charts, the Black Eyed Peas tell us to Shut Up and pop Idol Michelle tops the UK with All This Time. In music news, American Top 40 Legend Kasey Kasem signs off on his last episode after over 30 years on raido around the world. 

In TV Donald Trump debut's on Mark Burnett's 'The Apprentice' which ends up being one of the most popular reality TV shows of all time.

And Mel shaves her mouse mat, among other things. 

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Week OHH 11 January 2004. 

T minus. 

This is 3. 

You know what? 

I'm very forgetful. Hello there. 

-25. 

Stop trying to make fetch happen. 

What are we waiting for? 

This is harder than I thought it would be. 

My fellow Americans. Let's roll. 

Ohh and just like that, it's 2004. The year 2004 is what we're rewinding to. On the podcast we call T minus. 20 that does. Just that rewinds every week to this week in now 2004 with your host Joe. And Mel. Hello, Mel. 

The years are flying by 2004 already. Can you believe it? 

I know, I know. It's this little 20 year time warp thing that we do and it's a new year and a new US, but it's kind of weird because it's old because we're talking about stuff that we've. 

He was. 

Live through. 

And how discombobulating is it with the new intro? It's like when they replace the pippers, something just felt. A bit different. 

I know I'm an old man. I fear change. It's it's not great. Yeah. 

Brand new intro. 

I know. Caught me. Caught me a bit off guard. But Daniel moment for Daniel. Daniel is our guy that does. The year is 2004 little intro spiel, yeah. 

The setup the setup guy. 

He lives just outside of. Las Vegas and around December every year, we send him an email and we say, hey, Daniel, just us again how you? Going we'd like to. Book you to record the intro for. Our podcast Daniel never responds, never talks to us, just the next day. The voiceover appeared in our email and it's just brilliant every time, and he must I I just wonder what's going through his mind when he's reading that script, isn't he? It's so magical, and he does so well, and he must just be going. 

It's just said yes. He's like our voice over Santa. He's he's got his little Christmas present. It is. 

What are they talking about? 

Yeah. No direction for it. I'm pretty sure he's not even familiar with polyphonic ringtones and usher, but anyway. 

No, no. But you did a great. Yeah. Yes, very impressive. 

He did. We're very grateful for Daniel. Now we've got a big one straight out the gate this week. 

I'm hoping for justice as a father who lost his son. And fighting for 10 years, at last we going to have a journey from ordinary people and I hope to reach the the decision which I believe that my son and Prince Diana being murdered. 

That was a a very dramatic moment in front of the press with Tony Alford's dad, of course, in regards to the death of Princess Diana and his son. 

Yes. So the British investigation kicked off this week. 

Take your spray paint. Thank you. 

Very much. 

No, I can't. 

Hard working. Get out of my face. 

That was probably one of the biggest meltdowns on one of the biggest reality shows going around at the the time and it made its debut this time 20 years ago. That was actually meatloaf going off on Gary Busey on The Celebrity Apprentice. But the The Apprentice. 

The OJ. 

Made its debut this time 20 years ago. 

The countdown will begin this Sunday afternoon at one right here on the radio station you grew up with. Music Radio 138. Ohh, what the Hell's going? On here. 

An outtake from one of the greatest radio voices of all time. 

Ohh, doesn't that voice just bring back beautiful memories of sitting there with your cassette deck listening to the. And it was the end of an era, the end of the magical golden tonsil voice, this time 20 years ago. 

Yeah. We'll talk more about that. So many of us grew up with that show, hearing it in the car on the weekends. 

Yes. And then going to school the next day and talking about the songs you heard and it feels like this time now that we're back doing the show again it. 

Feels like. You know and. 

When you went back to school after the school holidays and you saw all your friends and. Like OMG, so much has happened. I've got so much to tell you. I feel like that. I feel like there's so much to. Share it's been a. 

Ohh really? 

Big few weeks during summer programming so much has happened. I have now got up close glasses and far away glasses. I now need to. Wear a mouth guard to bed. And what else happened? So I rearranged the. 

Fridge well, that is how old are we? Wow. 

I bought some containers, some clear acrylic containers and reorganised the fridge and I shaved my mouse. 

Nice. Is that a metaphor, really? 

No, no. My actual mouth smack. It was getting a bit lumpy and. I shaved it. And it just. It feels good. So much has happened. I feel like I needed. To bring everyone on the journey. Yeah, glad to be back. 

Are Are you sure you're talking about? Ohh, maybe cause I wouldn't mind having a look. 

I'm sure. But good to see you've retained the recorder. Good to see that's made it back for two. 

Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm done. I think I need to wrap up. Now. You're talking about shaving. That's all. We've got time for T -? 20 this week. 

1004. It was very Linton. 

We're going. We're gonna go and clear the drain of the mouse mat lints after Mel. 

It was shedding a lot. 

Had to shave. Anyway, it's the Hatch match in dispatch glue. We we bought this back. We're still doing this every week. Of course, the end of the programme, the hatches, matches and dispatches segment that. We do all the time. We're gonna drop you a clue right now, you can have a guess in your own brain as to who it is and we'll reveal all at the end of the show. A celebrity who was a match, who got married this time 20 years ago. That said this. 

Honestly, I really wanted to see what. It was like to be married. 

Yeah, one more time. 

Umm honestly, I really wanted to see what it was. Like to be married. 

Well, let me tell you what it's like to be married. You have to listen to conversations about rearranging the fridge close and far away. Glass. They were like they said, in sickness and in health. And shaving the mouse mat. Into the news for the week commencing 11th January. Is it the 11th January? Yes. 

Yes, but look. 

We're gonna talk about the 6th. Of January cause. 

That's good cause I got confused. I got very. I mean aside from the mouse Matt shaving. Now I'm looking at the show notes and I'm going 6th. Of January. What are you talking about? 

Yeah, that's the wrong date. Well, you know, we've got a bit of leeway here because we were in summer programming and I feel like we still need to talk about this. One cause it's. Quite a big deal construction on the tallest human made structure to date, the Burj Khalifa, begins on the 6th of January 2004 in Dubai in United Arab Emirates. 

Yeah, this is this is like this massive residential commercial space. It is a big, big building. It's like it's like you take the world's tallest building before that and you put the Eiffel Tower on top of it and then you get the Burj Khalifa. That's how high it is. 

So that's a total height of 829.8 metres. In fact, I think it's got an antenna that it doesn't include, but there is a Spire that it does include. So yeah, around 800 and 28820. 9 metres. What's that in feet for? For the American. 

Around around 202. Sorry 200. God around 2700. Something feet. Yeah, great math thing. Thanks, Google. 

Well, good. Nothing. Yes, it's. It's been the tallest structure and building in the world since 2009. I think this was when it was finished and. It beat the previous. Folder of. That that record, which was the Taipei 101, it has 163 floors and the world's highest elevator installation. Imagine going from the ground floor to floor 163. You'd lose your stomach. 

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder how long that will take. Take a long time. Yeah, you'd need to pop your ears on the way up and. 

It would take a long time. And then coming down on checkout day, imagine how annoying that would be stopping on every floor, everybody checking out. Ohh. 

All that sort of stuff. They'd be like checkouts. At 10:00 AM and you'd have to get up at 6:30 just to do it. Yeah. So it's it's made out of reinforced concrete, but it also features this structural system with a central core, reinforced with a combination of concrete and. It's actually a very innovative building design and the other thing with where it's built in Dubai, which is basically out in the desert, there's no bedrock. So you know how New York has lots of skyscrapers and New York's perfect for skyscrapers because it's got lots of bedrock, really, which you can sink a foundation into. And it's gonna be really solid. But out in the desert. 

Ah yes. 

It's completely different. 

Of course. 

So I was watching this Richard Hammond document. Tree on it and they're like the the foundation is like a giant snowshoe. So it's like the foundation is the base of it, which is as thick as probably two people standing on each others shoulders, two average. So about maybe 1214 feet high, something like that of of thick concrete as the base. But then in that concrete is like, 50 metres. Of these big rods, big concrete rods that sink down into the sand and then eventually get to like this ancient sea bed of this crazy shell type substance. But it's still sand. So, and that's that's how they stabilise it all. It's really a remarkable feat of engineering that is being terribly explained by me. And you should probably just go and watch. It on YouTube or something. 

And I think it's got an interesting shape as well. It's got sort of three kind of parts to it. The designer, I think his name was Adrian Smith. He created design, A design for a building in Seoul called the Samsung Tower. And I don't know that it ever got built in the way that he designed it. So he'd taken that thinking and applied it to the Burj Khalifa. 

Yeah, cause the. Way it's built like the. It's like there's three wings to it. So. So like almost like you think of a Mercedes. Benz logo so it's like that. So it's like a Mercedes Benz logo and and apparently the reasoning behind that is because when the wind hits it, it doesn't sway as much. It creates little pockets of air. So even if it's got like a 200. 

The wind move move. 

Kilometre wind gust. Right up at the top. It's being dispersed by the actual shape of the building. 

The cost was estimated to be around $1.5 billion US at. Time and that includes the construction process, the design, engineering, labour materials and it was funded by the Government of Dubai as well as various international investors. There was a little bit of scrutiny, however, around the labour conditions. The cost also the environmental sustainability, and this comes back to what you saying to constructing. Something in the middle of the desert. The energy consumption for that and the environmental impacts massive. 

Yeah, they had to put ice. They had to put ice in the concrete because it was set too quickly. And like you said, to look like quite a few people died. In fact, the working conditions were appalling. So people were working 12 hour days for as little as $10 a day on the construction of it. That's how much the average worker was getting paid. But anyway. They got it all done. It was opened on the 4th of January in 2010 and that was when all the construction was done and it was operational. But I think they had the inauguration a little bit later. They had like fireworks light shows. They don't do anything by halves over in the United Arab Emirates cause they got all that oil money that they're throwing at it. But here's a fun fact for you. Did you know that it is because of the way it's built and how massive it is? It's actually not part of the sewage infrastructure of Dubai. So and and they were saying if they'd connected that to the sewage pipelines, then the Burj Khalifa would. Not would basically overrun the entire system in the town in in this town in this city. It's not a town, it's a city. And it's growing very quickly. So there, there is so much money spent like you talk about environmental. 

For so big. 

Packs every single time somebody flushes a toilet that goes down into a storage tank and then and then that poop is trucked out to another facility. So all these trucks come in and they pump all this. Into the trucks and then they drive the trucks full of out of the city and. They go and put. 

Them in another. 

Facility where they're then processed as. 

Imagine if. 

Part of a normal. 

Sewage truck had an accident and rolled over on the on the freeway. 

Ohh I'll tell you. But, well, I mean it's in the desert and dry pretty quick go white like in your backyard and then you just run over at. The lawn mower, like the dog Booker. Hideous that we've got another news story on the 6th of January, which is a little bit more but, and I this one's kind of gross because it talks about. I mean, we're talking about the death of Princess Diana, and this was an absolute media circus. And in some ways I think dirty Al Fayad's. Father really fuelled the stoke. The fires for this, which meant that there was a coroner's inquest that happened this time 20 years ago, which was referred to as operation pageants. 

So the couple died on the 31st of August 1997. Do you I I vividly. 

Yes, it was terrific. 

Remember this happening. I was working at Miss Shop. Yeah. And one of the other girls. Came in cause she. Had a shift that started an hour after mine and she came in and she was just really pale and she loved, loved, loved, yes, loved the Royals. I think she. 

She's a loyalist. 

And had the commemorative vote, she came in and as she she said as I was driving to work, I just heard a news report that there's been an accident involving Princess died, but we don't know what's happened. We don't know if she's OK or not. I just remember that whole shift. We're trying to find out what was going on. Like it's still I can still visualise it now. I can't believe like that was 1997. 

You remember this place? Yes. Getting more information. 

So it happened in 1997, but it wasn't until 2000. And four that. The British coroners inquest occurred. Normally it would happen faster. But they had the one over in France 1st and they needed to resolve that before this one could start and there was a lot of stuff that went on that extended that particular inquest, particularly with Dodie's father, speculation around the paparazzi and their involvement. 

Right. 

And then a lot of the conspiracy theories. So that's why there. Was such a. Big lag between. 

Well, it's like 7 years. 

Hmm. Hmm, that and that's starting. So the French one concluded in 1999. And the conclusion there was it was because of the driver, Henry Paul, being drunk and speeding dangerously. There was also, like I said, the criminal case against the photographers, but that that it eventually came to nothing. They weren't convicted or or anything like that. 

So Dodi Al Fayed's dad Mohammed Al Fayed, who's big Egyptian businessman, owned Harrods. Very well known. He was convinced that they were murdered there. He, he and he threw a big bunch of gasoline on the fire. That was the conspiracy theories around this, because he was so outspoken in the media. 

I'm hoping for justice as a father who lost his. And fighting for 10 years at class, we going to have a jury from ordinary people, and I hope to reach the the decision which I believe that my son and Prince Diana have been murdered by the royal family, OK. Are you getting? 

That's good. 

I am certain what happened to them. I know they've been murdered and I'm sure the jury of ordinary people will confirm all my doubts for the last 10 years, which I've been fighting to find justice for my son and present. 

That is a big call. It's such a big call. 

He wasn't the only one that felt that way, though they did. A survey of Britons around that time, 27% believed that she had been murdered. 

Is that right? Well, there was other members of the. General public that didn't. 

Personally, I believe that it should just be left in peace at this point. It's been going on, let's say for 10 years. I think the children think Prince of Wales, you know, I just think that should be. Just left alone by that. 

Now, it certainly would have taken a toll on on everyone involved, especially the families with it being in the press the entire time when we all know what the tabloids in England are like as well. But the the jury were obviously civilians, so they they had handpicked a bunch of civilians. And here's the news. Thought about it. 

Under tight security, jurors investigating Princess Diana's death are retracing her final steps. The six women and five men viewed the front of the Ritz Hotel in Paris and then went to the back entry. That's where Diana and her boyfriend, Dodi Fayed, slipped out and into a Mercedes on their final journey. Jurors then boarded a bus to travel to a landmark Paris Plaza to get an idea of traffic patterns in the elegant but busy square, and then to the next stop, the most sensitive, the Alma Tunnel. The bus travelled through the tunnel. From both directions and then in quiet procession, the jurors walked through. The tunnel the group stopped for several minutes and stared at the 13th pillar. It was there that. The Mercedes being chased by photographers speed into the underpass and slammed into a concrete pillar. 

We all know the story. Did you think? And I wonder if I think, Carl Fayadh, father Mohammed actually kind of held up the investigation as much as they had to wait for the. To be able. To finish the fact that he was running his mouth in the media, I don't think helped anything at all. 

But he held up the French one as well because he was trying to bring the photographers into account as well. Yeah. So yeah, he he was involved in the French one and the British one. But there were a lot of conspiracy theories and they weren't all the one theory. So there was obviously the assassination plot, and that was that. They were trying to. Get rid of her due to her public persona and humanitarian efforts, there were rumours about. 

That's pretty serious. That just doesn't make any. Sense at all, yes. 

Is it MI 6? That's them, or a faction within played a role? Including the alleged and the motivations behind that were the alleged disapproval of her relationship with charity and her political views. 

It's like Prince. 

Because she's such a threat to national security. I mean, come on. 

There were theories that Dotty's family were involved, that they were targeted due to their association with the British royal family. Then there was the. 

Now, very quickly I I think that's actually a plausible theory. 

Photographers involvement. So that's what Dodie was was talking about. That they because they were chasing. The car at the time was somehow involved in causing the accident, whether on purpose or negligence. 

Well, I don't. Think the photographers would well and that that is incredibly plausible. I think anyone who's got any common sense would say, well, the the accident was caused by them being pursued by the photographers. Had the photographers not pursued them, they wouldn't have been speeding all of the all of these things, you know. But ultimately it's negligence of the driver of. The car there. 

There's also medical negligence claims that she didn't receive adequate medical attention immediately after. 

After the fact, right is. 

The crash and something that. Also fueled a lot of the speculation was Diana herself believed that her life was in jeopardy? She wrote a letter 10 months earlier saying that she felt that her life was at risk at stating this particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. This is and. 

We'll put a. 

Big caveat on it, according to Paul Burrell. The the Butler guy that wrote the book and he published this particular letter and she named who she thought was actually after her. He crossed it out. And then interestingly, Piers Morgan, he was working for, I think the Daily Mirror. 

Yeah, the Butler who was cashing in right on the yeah. 

Published the letter but then revealed the names that were blacked out. How familiar is that? Didn't he just do that again recently? Wasn't he the one that talked about with Meghan Markle? 

Piers Morgan. Ohh yeah, yeah yeah he did. 

And who? Who it was. 

That made the racist comments about about that, yeah. 

Answer is that yes, yes he. And then he revealed the names. There as well, isn't that? 

It is interesting is and I guess too like every time they say like they fear for their lives. And so I mean, you look at Megan and Harry now who and everyone's kind. Of turned on them, you know. But maybe there is something in that somewhere. You know, there's obviously a way that Royals are supposed to behave. And if you don't behave as a royal, then you're gonna come under a lot of pressure. And I don't know. I mean, maybe it's not too dissimilar to when people try and leave the Church of Scientology, you know, and they're followed around and they're harassed relentlessly. And all of that sort of stuff to do the right thing and all those. Other things maybe? I don't know. I'm drawing a pretty. 

But but when you. 

Long bow. 

Do when you think about it and you think about how how young those boys were when that happened and. And you know, obviously the paparazzi were involved and they did pursue her relentlessly. You can understand why he would, once they had their son, would want to move away from that. And want to avoid. Those types of situations like that's like that, that is quite plausible and understandable. 

Of course. The only people that will ever know, I think what goes on behind those closed doors are the people that are in that inner circle. There's more. There's definitely more to. I mean, it's like any family, though. Every family's got their skeletons that they don't share with the general public. Except for podcasters, where everything's just laid bare, including including shaving your mouth mat. 

However, both the French and the UK investigations, all conspiracies aside, they both included the crash was a tragic accident caused by the actions of the driver, Henry Paul. Due to high speed and impaired. Judgement due to alcohol. So he was intoxicated. At the time. UM, but they did also say that the paparazzi chasing the car and the fact that they weren't wearing seat belts were also contributing factors into the severity. 

Of the crash. 

I mean, there's so many. Things where you like, why? Why was he drunk? Why were they not wearing their seatbelts? Why? Why? I mean, at what stage would you just go? Ohh. We give up. Like, let the paparazzi surround us and we'll get to where we need. 

Hmm hmm. To be eventually. That's so tragic though. 

There's. Yeah, it's just a moment in time, isn't it? It's just those things where you can't take. It back anyway. 

Do you need a? 

Tow no, that was a. That was a ship horn. That was a ship horn to signify a Segway to our next story on the 12th of January, the world's largest ocean liner, the RMS Queen Mary two makes its maiden voyage across the Atlantic from Southampton in England to Fort Lauderdale. 

OK. 

Ohh good. 

In Florida, in the United States, and it was, it was. One of those. Really. I mean, when you look at, it's not fair style. The fun ship, you know what I mean? It's like it's a pretty posh ship. 

Not the Ruby Princess. 

It's definitely not the Ruby Princess although. I mean, any cruise ship could become the Ruby Princess if somebody gets sick. Let's face it, there's nowhere to go. There's nowhere to go. You're not getting. 

Away from it. So this voyage marked the beginning of the Queen Mary Two's regular service, and it was a luxurious and iconic ocean liner. Took more than five years to build. It's the longest and largest ship. Were built at the time. Time just over. 1000 feet long and 238 feet. High, which is as tall as a 21 story building. 

Yes. And I think the word ocean. Liner is very. Crucial to its title, it is not a cruise ship. 

It's not a. 

It's an ocean liner and listen to the testimonials from some of the passengers. 

Line yes. 

Just to walk on that ship for the first time, the massive scale, she's just a magnificent liner. She's not a cruise ship. She is a true ocean liner. 

And then when you enter the area, the vestibule, they have lineup of Cunard employees in their dress outfits to greet you and you do feel really Hollywood. 

I expected it. 

To be very elegant experience, and it certainly lived up to that. 

It's a five star treatment. This is a 5 star floating hotel. 

You really feel special? They treat you like everyone's in first. 

Yeah, special. Everyone's in first class transatlantic journeys that take quite a few days, I believe. 

Yeah, I think it's a. Couple of weeks, isn't it? 

I don't know if it's a couple of weeks. I think it's a. It's definitely a few days. I think it's like a it's probably over a week, but maybe 8 days. New York, I thought I read somewhere that New York to London was. 

Yeah, I. 

About 8 days. 

How long did the balloon guy do it? We talked about the balloon guy. Did that, but he went. 

Ah, he's a bit quicker than. 

The other way he. 

Well, he went a lot fast. 

He went past them. 

The Queen Mary two maximum speed of just over 30 knots, which is 56 kilometres an hour. 

Well then that's like 2 years. 

I mean, it's like driving 60, driving 60, it's in the 60s zone. 

It's the it's between a school zone and 60. Yeah, it's very slow. 

Cruising speed of 26 knots, which is only 48 mph. So then you're almost in the school zone, but you probably get booked if you go that spot. 

I think it took just over 2 1/2 thousand passengers and for that first voyage they paid anywhere between four and a half, $1000 and $48,310. 

Yeah. And they're saying everyone's everyone feels like a a bit of Hollywood and a bit of celebrity. 

48,000. Because I think. 

Except for the people that are below. 

Well, the 4400 probably not. I think the 48,000 has got a Butler. 

Yeah, you're not getting the balcony and just looking out. Of portholes like. 

Yeah, all kinds. Of great stuff. It had six restaurants. Five swimming pools, a casino and art gallery, and a movie theatre that doubles as a. Planetarium. What more could you want? 

That's well cruising's interesting, isn't it? There's up until well until COVID hit. Cruising was obviously very popular. It's very popular with people who had retired who didn't want to go into nursing homes because they just continually booked themselves on cruise ships. 

There was one person that did that. Yes, that was their retirement plan just cruising around. 

And that he waited on hand and foot, which is wonderful. Well, it's not too dissimilar from a nursing home, I guess. Cause once you're on the cruise ship and you're out in the. 

That's a good idea. 

Middle of the. Ocean there is call to do. There's nothing to do. That's why there's restaurants and movie theatres and all that sort of stuff. It's like, it's like being in a blackout, but you're at sea. It's like the power's gone off and we're limited in what we can do because we're at sea, we're surrounded by ocean, and we're on this thing. So we need to have things to occupy our time. Yes. That's why you get the drink. 

And that's why everyone gets smashed. That's why I run drunk the whole time. 

Package and get faced because there's call to do. 

There was some controversy with this one as well. There always is with construction. The final stages were marred by a fatal accident on the 15th of November 2. 

Yeah, this is terrible. 

1003. A gangway collapsed under a group of workers and their relatives. I think they were invited to have a bit of a Backstage 2. 

Yeah. It's like take your family to work day and then the family didn't go home. 

On the floor it was. Yes, 16 people died and 32 were injured, which is just horrendous. 

And so when you hear stories like that and are. 

You'd you'd hardly wanna then jump aboard the next. 

It's this shipping cursed. 

Day, would you, hmm? Yes. 

Yeah, yeah, it's a bit of a worry. It's still going though. It's still running. It's it's had a couple. 

It is. 

Of refurbs since then. 

Has got a very nice website. I I looked at some pictures, very opulent it. Very yeah. Old worldly opulence. But like, you know, the fancy. Carpet. There's a lot of red and. 

And the filigree, yeah. 

Gold and a lot of textures on the walls. You. Know the gold mirrors. Very fancy, yes. 

It's a filigree. Yeah, and I. That's probably why it's had a couple of upgrades as well though, because I'm sure that around the 70s and 80s. That, that, that decor just wouldn't have been too. Great. But it's it's, would you do it? Would you do it? I think it would be 1. Those things that you'd maybe like to do once in your lifetime, like you know, it's like a a rail journey like the GAN or something, maybe a transatlantic cross crossing on a cruise. 

Ship. I'd like to make sure first that I'm not a seasick kind of person because imagine that. Imagine, you know, crossing the transatlantic for your two months or whatever. Going 50 kilometres an hour and you're just bombing the whole way. 

My well, yes. 

My only cruise ship experience was when we moved to Tasmania. 

While the Tasmanian 1. 

Yes, and it used to be an overnight thing. So you'd you'd leave in the in the the IT was the able Tasman when I did it, yes. 

Yes. What's that? What's that boat called? The Abel Tasman. Yes. That's also an apartment complex down in Batehaven. Yeah. 

So you leave it in the night time and then you arrive. 

Umm. And you put your car on there too, don't you? Umm umm, can you stay in your car? 

In the morning and it's. Yeah, you, you put your car down in the thing and we we actually we we smuggled our pet budgie across in the car in the boot. Yes yes across to Tasmania yeah. 

The legal crossing of the boat. She what was. 

She's name Sanchez. It wasn't a Mexican wasn't a Mexican illegal border crossing as a boat person, he had a boat person as a battery, isn't it? Was Hawkeye? Yeah. Hawkeye. Yeah. So he he was huddled in the boot of the car in the. 

Oh, God. Oh, that's appropriate. Booth. Not even in like a passenger set. 

Yeah, it's my parents. You send them to gaol? I didn't do it. I was a child at the time. Hold on, hold. I made it. Hook. I made it a hook. I lived for 16 years before he fell off the perch. He. 

The talk I make it though. So if I'm still alive at the other end. 

Did pretty well. 

Wow. Wow. 

Yeah, he did pretty. Unfortunately, he stayed in Tasmania, but he did make the border crossing anyway the the the the time that we went when we went across the first time we weren't in like a state room or anything, we were down. In the bowels. Of the ship? Yes. And it was a no, not. 

In the car. 

In the yeah, I was in the boot of the car as well. So Mike, sure he's alright. Hey. OK, move over. No. And then so we're in the bowels of the ship. So tiny cabin. You know, there's bunk beds and there's, like, a double bed for mum and dad. And we're in the bunk bed and. And it was like, oh, it's all like, really nice. And we're sitting up in the restaurant having dinner. And then we crossed through the Heads of Port Phillip Bay in Melbourne and we hit that straight and it was storming in Bass Strait. And there were some very high waves in Bass Strait. And the boat was crashing through the waves. It would lurch. And then you would hear it go bang. And because you're in the bowels of the ship, you felt. All of it like I and I don't know if it's got a gyroscope or anything to balance it out, but I don't think it was a big enough ship to do that right. You know, it's not like, ohh, we'll go up to the bar and go for all. Service some cocktails and it's not The Love Boat. OK, you know. And then and then. Right here, the coat hangers sliding back and forward and I should have known to cause when we're sitting at dinner, there was like a a sort of 1/2 inch lip on the edge of the table. And then and as we started going through the the heads, the the glasses started sliding up and down the table. Anyway, we go back to the room. I am as seasick. 

Ohh rice. Ohh to catch everything when it stops, yeah. 

As a dog, I am so unwell as a. Child and and I blocked the toilet up in the room. And then we had to, honestly, it would have. 

You needed the Trevor calm. 

We I did. And so I was terrified to go back. We lived there for two years, and we crossed back on the ship as well. But on the way back we had a much nicer room, which was up a little bit higher on the ship and. And. And you didn't feel the rocking as much. And it was a much more pleasant journey. But they don't the the able Tasman doesn't run anymore. No, I think that it's just a ferry now, like I don't. It was spirit of Tasmania or something. It's called. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No. Well, maybe it is, but it's had a rebrand similar to the Queen. There was no Queen Mary too. Let me tell you. 

Spirit of Tasmania. Yes, yes, I thought that was the same boat. No. OK. So look, I'm never going on the Queen Mary 2 with you or Hawkeye after that story. If you've locked the toilet. 

Well, I mean. 

That's maybe if the able Tasman had a planetarium and a lot more pleasant, who knows? I look, I I'm up for it. I'm up to try cruising again, but I reckon. 

If there's booze in a water slide, maybe. 

I just you've just gotta be so careful. I I just think if you're hitting rough seas and imagine I'm on a transatlantic crossing. 

Over the music now. 

I'm I'm going to defer to you. I do. I do know that when we were just at the head of this, when you were talking about the American Top 40 and you're like how you come back and everyone would start talking about. It bit of. A disclaimer, I never listened to that was anti top. I was trading tapes with my friends. I was like trying to get the latest copy of ride the Lightning on cassette. From somebody who'd maybe dubbed it off somebody else and passed it around. But I was obviously aware of it. Anyway. We'll talk a bit more about that later, but there is a you, you you like? I'm saying. Take over Mel, and then I'm talking. So I'll stop and. 

All right. You go. We'll start with the Australian types for week commencing. What are we, 11 January 2004? 

Yeah, new year. You are so professional. 

Always we had this song in the number one spot by the. Black Eyed Peas. 

Shut up. 

I don't know. 

How appropriate I should have done that before anyway. 

Yeah, I kind of feel funny talking about them now after the discussion that we had last year. I just have a bit of a about Black Eyed Peas and I can't can't get away from it, but we do need to mention it because it was #1 here in Australia, second single from elefunk. 

Yeah, I don't like them. I don't like them. 

It wasn't successful in the US, however, but was massive here in Australia. It was also pretty big in New Zealand as well as some European countries it. 

Is that because in the states that they they think that like shut up is rude but you know, let's get ********, he's perfectly OK. 

Right, but this is where it all started for Fergie FERC. So it was this song where will I am thought hey? We need a chick. We need a chick on. Shut up. Telling everyone to shut up. 

But is she not on elephant or did? 

They this was the first song that they recorded with her because the first single was. Where is the love timber, timber, Timberlake. 

Week. OK. And Justin Timberlake there, but then I'm sure, didn't she do some over? She did some overdubs. 

Everything else she did, everything else. On elephant, but this was one of the first singles recorded on elephant after. Where is the love so? 

Right. 

Williams like we needed. Chick. She auditioned, he brought her in. Yep, she's pretty good. And then they went. Hey, wanna join the band? And she's gone. OK. You have a question? Yes. 

Question question. Yes, just a very quick one. Did they start recording singles and then releasing them before the album was complete? 

Is that what they did? Because I. 

No 'cause. Think other folks already out? At this point cause this. 

Well, Ella Funk is already out now. 

Is the second single yes. 

Yeah. No. OK, carry on. 

So they did. Where is the love? 

Wait a SEC. Wait. 

Yes, yes, please do. So they've done the one with Timber Timberlake and they've gone OK, we need someone else doing some vocals here because it worked really well with. Whereas the love they bring Fergie, Fergie in for shut up and they go hey she sounds really good with us come. 

Yep, sorry about that. I'm out of line. 

And join the band. And then subsequently, she's on all of. The other singles. And Elefunk, does this make sense? 

Subsequently I just got a. 

List it must be the close up glasses. 

Yes. Sorry, he's he's sending to my Italian grandmother. I'm not even Italian. 

But, Fergie Ferg, I didn't know this. Yeah, she was on kids incorporated. 

Are you kidding? 

We were only talking about. 

With my teacher. 

Kids incorporated the other day because of. Martika toy soldiers. 

And yes, she did my I think it. 

What else does she do? She did a cover of I feel the Earth move under my feet. I feel tumbling down. I did like toy. 

Is yes. 

Soldiers Shanice was also on kids incorporated. And these have been haunting me for about 6 years now. You know she needs. Two things I love your. 

I love your smile. 

Smile heard her on Coles radio. 

Who am I? What is going? Yeah. 

Heard her on Coles radio and then a a car overtook me and the number plate was. Shanice. And then I was telling someone else about it. And they then heard Shanice and sent me a message going. Heard Janice today and then during our summer programming. Woolworths radio in the baked bean aisle. Shanice I love your smile. 

Woolworths radio. 

Doo Doo Doo. 

Doo Doo? Yeah. And I bought the BBQ beans. 

I'm a bit upset with Woolworths at the moment, just quietly as well. I'm not a fan of the would you like to round up your purchase to give money to charity? 

You discussed this with an employee. 

I did and he's like, he's like he defended. He's a company man. He defended them and he's like, they match it. Yeah, they. 

The day and and he. He served it to you. 

Match that, but I'm like. You mean $1.7 billion profit last year? Him. I'm not calling him a big. I'm calling Woolworths. It's very. 

Good cause he was lovely. He was. Efficient. I think he's the fastest scanner I've seen from. 

It was pretty good. It was, but they've made $1.7 billion in profit. Why? 

They could just round. 

They can donate the. 

It up themselves, they can donate a portion of that. Christ, you can almost end world hunger with that kind of money. Maybe not. But you know, you then hunger hunger in this. 

Sense. Hmm. Hmm. 

Country. Sorry. Yes, she. 

Jennifer Love Hewitt was also on Kids Incorporated, as was Mario Lopez. I think we need to find some old episodes of. 

It used to be on. 

Kids incorporated. We need to. Pick who all the famous people are. 

School holidays and it used to be on around. 9:30 or 10:00 in the morning? Yeah. 

And yes, I used to watch it whenever our family was. Down at the. Beach for the. First two weeks of January, we would. Watch it with Martinique. 

And and being the patriotic Australian I was. I was like this just to rip off the young talent time. 

It really was. 

I don't think so. I think it was. They first I they probably weren't. 

Teller time was like 100 years ago. 

Yes, I know. See. Yes, it was a rip off of young talents. I'm. I'm. 

Kitchen compared. It was. 

Yes, absolutely, absolutely. 

Standing by that, yes. 

Let's move to the UK now. 

Bring that show back. Bring back young. 

What about you can't do that on television. I think I prefer that. I'd prefer that over. 

That was a wonderful show. 

Kids and Co. 

Writers with the salon. Yeah. When you can say water rider. No moose. I loved moose. She was great. She. 

Yeah, it was great. And bath. You couldn't. Into the. I don't know. Yeah, it was a really good show. She did. There's a lot of good stuff on that show. There's a lot of good things about that anyway. Black Eyed. 

Had a. It's a very. Peas number one in Australia was shut up #1 in the UK is. Michelle, with all this time. Thinking who is this? Michelle this time she's talking. 

All this time. 

About I've never heard of her. Because usually the number one in the UK is either similar to Australia or it's a big band like Sugar Babes, Liberty Ex Michelle. Who's Michelle. She's an idol. She was the winner of the 2nd and final series of Pop Idol. 

This is an idol. 

And much like the nosey Guy Sebastian controversy, they both performed all this time in the final, so I dare say Mark Rhodes cause he was. The other guy that. Was Michelle and Mark I dare. Say Mark CD's are buried in landfill. Somewhere as well. 

Ohh really? Cause he would have done a recording of all this time that obviously he never saw the light of day. Do you know what I like about? 

Just like Nancy, yeah. 

Michelle, what I like about Michelle is she's just a normal person. You know, you look at Michelle. You look at her, you look. 

It's Michelle. Shell shell for short. At her, she mish? No, she'd be. A mish. 

She could have. Working the checkouts at Willies saying would you like to round up your purchase for enough money and I'd be like. 

And look ohh they're playing Shanice again. Isn't that great? Yes. 

Yeah, yeah. And then she just break into. I love your smile and just knock everybody soft soft. 

Yeah. Oh. 

Yeah. So she. Was just a very normal and I'm I don't mean that in a bad way. She like you alright? She's just like somebody off the street that you see in your neighbour. 

Good. It's funny. You say that. Because I was reading the comments in, because I watched the video clip because I had no idea, I thought it might have been Michelle from Destiny's Child or something like that, because she's brought. She's been out around for. 

Yeah. No, she looks like she you know what she looks like? She looks like she'd be running the Cam bar at the googong. Hogs on the weekend? Amazing. Yeah, public service. 

So I read the comments. And there were comments in there saying that amazing. Voice such a? Great performer. It's a shame that you didn't conform to. The public notion of what a pop star. Should be so there. 

A shame. I think it's wonderful. 

Was there was discussion, there was discussion that the reason why she, well, she was successful after Pop Idol for a. Little bit. Yeah. And then no one heard from her again, and they were saying it's because she didn't. She didn't conform to those, pop. Star standards. She wasn't dancing around, scantily clad, like a lot of the. The starlets of the early 2000s and they were saying that that's. 

Yeah, right. 

Potentially why we didn't hear from Michelle after. All this time. 

Maybe she just had a passion for running the candy bar at the going hooks. You know, you'd be walking up saying. Hey, Michelle, how's? It going hey. 

Mish, no, it's me, g'day mish. 

Yeah, yeah, I'll have a cart and dry and she'll be like. 

No, we don't have that. Here it's 4X or VB. 

Ohh sorry, I'll have a Melbourne bitter and be like yeah, that's 6 bucks and I'd be like, OK and then halfway through the purchase, you'd look up over. The top of. My head and be you know. OK. It'd be great. Let's do the let's have. A look at the top five from the Billboard charts this week. We haven't done that yet. 

He's out. When I move you move. 

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and their life is better. Yours. Damn right it's better than yours. I could teach you, but I. Have to try. 

Y'all don't hear me. You just want them. 

That's that's almost exactly as we left it. Well, with one exception, there's only one thing missing after three weeks, and that's Beyoncé and Shauna Paul. Yes, gone. 

How tough? Hey. Yeah. Outcast. Still #1. Outcast #2 the way you move. Kelis's milkshake in at #3, we had a new entry at #4 Alicia Keys. You don't know my name and murder it at #5. Can I just say, too, over the Christmas period, we discovered that Ludacris has a Christmas movie, Luda, in a Christmas movie. 

Little Chris. Ohh my God. What was it called? What was it called up? Dashing through the snow, I believe, yes. 

Yes, yes. And there was a dog. There's a dog in it. And I think at one point something outrageous happened. And he said that's ludicrous. 

He did say that's. Well, there, there was a black Santa I. Mean it was just. 

I'm disappointed he didn't have any spring. Rolls cause I would. Have liked to have seen a reenactment of the spring roll incident. 

Anyone who's not familiar with what Mel is talking about, Google ludicrous spring rolls. Then you'll the full story will be reviewed this. 

Is not about Luda cause he's been in the charts for some time. This is about Alicia Keys. You don't know my name. Lead single from her second studio album. The diary of Alicia Keys. 

That's right. I love her. She's so wonderful. One thing I did not know about this song at the time was it was written by Kanye West. And Alicia Keys. 

Yes, and he produced it as well. 

Yeah, and some do called Harold Lee as well. We don't want. 

Care about? 

How you want? 

That you think he kind of gets, you know, easy cancels him out a little bit. Unfortunately, cause of the profile and the whole easy thing. This is backward easy. Everyone liked him. 

Yes, yes. Are we allowed to talk about him now? No. 

Ohh we can we can talk. 

I think he, Paul, I think. 

About whatever we like. 

He apologised the other. Day for something. 

God, we've talked about shaving mouse mats and smuggling budgies to Tasmania. Might as well talk about Kanye, yeah. 

OK. Well, we can talk. We can definitely talk that time. Yeah, yeah. So her album we talked about that that was released very late 2003 and lead singles already charting so well done, Alicia. It was her third top ten hit in the US peaks at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100. It also tops the hot R&B and hip hop charts for eight weeks critically acclaimed. Grammy Award, best R&B Songs, Soul Train music award. And and Lil Wayne actually sampled it in his 2008 single. 

Ohh, really. Well, that's it. I mean, OK. 

You've now you've made it. When a little wrapper samples you. 

When you've when you've been sampled by Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne's hideous, hideous looking guy. 

A little, a little penny. Little little John. Little Bow Wow. I take any. Little little little what other Littles are there? 

Look, I don't know, but what I was gonna say is Lil Wayne's hideous look. 

Was he? I don't know what he looks like. 

Yeah, he's got, like, prison prison. 

Tattoos all over his face. You know, grills. He's got, like, the beauty spot, piercing and stuff, you know. Wayne do. 

I'm thinking of look, I'm confusing him with a little John. Yeah. Yeah, I know. There's too many Littles going around. 

You're getting a little. He's. Yeah, well, he's not a good looking guy. But from all accounts, a total gentleman, apparently little Wayne. 

He's been out there. And who's told you this? 

Ohh, lots of people I've heard it through the Grapevine, Lil. 

Wayne, did he open your car door for you or something? Did he put his jacket over a puddle for you to walk? 

He help? No. No, I think somebody somebody no, some. But it's funny you mentioned that somebody was accepting an award at maybe the Billboard awards or the Grammys or something. Lil Wayne was front row. She had a very big dress on and it was kind of hard. And Lil Wayne helped her up on the stage and I'm ******** if I can remember who it is. But you can Google that along with, you know. 

Over did he pull? Out your chair at the restaurant. 

Right. 

Ludacris and spring rolls OK. 

Very Christmas spring rolls. 

Right. 

OK, that sounds like a great night. Ludacris and spring rolls, little Wayne, and a big dress. 

Thank you. Thank you. I I I have some of the information, not all of it and that'll do, you can go and find it. Be tenacious. Go and figure it out for yourself. Use your initiative. 

OK. We had the end of an era in music news, this time 20 years ago. Well, actually this is from the 3rd of January. But again, I feel like we. 

Ohh, didn't we ever. 

Need to we need to acknowledge this one because this guy I don't know about you. But this guy for me was even though we're here in Australia, we still got the show. This guy was a big. 

Oh, we have to acknowledge this guy. 

Influence for me, and I think looking back on the chart, show that I used to do in R. He's such a big influence on so many different radio shows and radio segments. We're talking about Casey Kasem and the American Top 40. 

He was a voice that so many people around the world grew up with, and after 30 years of hosting American Top 40, he's letting go of the reins and actually handing it over to Ryan Seacrest, which? I mean, such a massive step down. Like really? 

Oh look, 2004 would be Pake Seacrest, wouldn't it? After marriage, he's done two seasons of American Idol. He's he's brought out the catch phrase, Seacrest out. He's thinking about the Kardashians reality show. 

Well, it was, I mean. 

There's no Casey cases. Casey Kasem is a. 

Seacrest is so hot right now. 

Casey Kasem is a throwback to the heyday of radio. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. He's a throwback to the heyday of radio. I think of Casey case. 

Seacrest could never be kasam. 

Awesome. I think of Barry Bissell, I think of guys like Doug Murray in Australia. I think of Pete Smith, you know like. 

Yeah, yeah, there's a. Whole voice over industry as well. So Casey Kasem was a big voice actor in shows, but he also did a lot of promo voice. Over as well he's got. The greatest voice ever, he began hosting the original American Top 40 on the 4th of July 1970. 

He does. 

Here we go with the Top 40 hits in the nation this week on American Top 40, the best selling and most played songs from The Atlantic and the Pacific, from Canada to. Mexico, this is. Casey Kasem in Hollywood and in the next three hours we'll countdown the 40 most popular hits in the United States this week. Hot off the record charts of Billboard Magazine for the week ending July the 11th, 1970. In this hour at #32 in the countdown, a song that's been a hit. Four different times in 19 years and we're just one tune away from the singer with the $10,000 gold hubcaps on his car. Now on with the countdown, here's Marvin Gaye. His hit end of our Rd. 

#40. 

It's all. 

How good is he? How good is he? 

Bad voice. It just doesn't it take you back? It just takes you back to your childhood. 

Does I? I don't know what's going on with the 8 bit background music, but I think that's come back into vogue. Now anyway, but it's just everyone. Would know that voice and if you didn't, but you and you couldn't place it. That is Casey Casey. Ladies and gentlemen, you would have grown up with him if you're. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Our age, you would have heard him in so many different things, but we'll talk more about that later on American Top 40. He was there until 1988, I believe. 

Hmm. He had a contract dispute that they couldn't resolve, so then he went and started his own kind of rogue Top 40, which is called Casey's Top 40 on a rival station. So he started that in 89. That ended in 1998. 

That's right. 

Yeah. And then he returned and he revived the American Top 40 later in 98 and then continued to host it through up until this time 20 years ago, when he came back. And I feel so lucky because when I worked at summer camp in 2003, he was still doing that was his last year of doing the Top 40. 

Imagine that that would have been a big thing when Casey Kasem came home. Almost a decade later. Ohh well of course. 

So I've obviously grown up with him. I've listened to him, I've tried to. Tape songs on my my. Phillips Cassette tape player and I'm like. Actually, Casey, can you stop talking actually talking over the intro of the song? But and I did have his voice on on mix tapes that I made that I recorded off the show. And then in 2003, I'm over there and we're driving the bus around and I hear Casey Cason introducing, you know, Matchbox 20 unwell. Yeah, and Black Eyed Peas. 

Take it. 

Where is the love? Dual intuition and it. Just it was so amazing because it's. Like oh wow, I'm actually listening. To this guy for reality over in America. 

In real time. 

This is this is so cool. 

Yeah, you're not listening to it pre recorded, you know, down the satellite played on the local radio station in Australia. You're listening to it live, which is if you're a radio nerd like us, that's a massive fuzz. Everyone else was like, what are you talking about, I mean. 

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes it. Who cares? But you know, I thought. It was amazing. So his final. 

Show this time 20 years ago. Here it is. 

There it is. The number one song in the USA on American Top 40 for the 4th week running. Hey ya by Outkast there you have them. The 40 biggest hits on the pop chart based on official airplay data provided by media based 24/7 American Top 40 for production of the Premiere Radio. The networks AT-40 was created by Casey Kasem and Don Bastani, produced by Laurie Crime. Our staff includes Matt Wilson, Merrill Schindler, Toby James Petty and Bobby Kaminski. Production and engineering by Michael Cooper, Ray Hernandez and Sal Cosio. My name is Casey Kasem, reminding you to keep your feet in the ground and keep reaching for the stars. 

Yeah. Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars and look over time. I mean, you can hear his voice has aged ever so slightly, but I would say not that much sounds incredible. He just sounds incredible. You know what I love too about that? It's. And it's very old school, how he's giving credit. 

Still, golden pieces isn't. 

To all of. These production crew. 

All the people involved. 

Yeah, like you don't hear that very often these days. You know, you'll often hear like, a a host of a radio show shouting out to their producer. But he he just rattled. 

No, no. 

Of over including himself, he gives himself pregnant as well. I create. He's like I created this mother. Yeah, I'm gonna say that I did. 

Yeah. Well, I mean, he thought of it. I'm gonna give myself mad props. I really. I like that it started as a three hour show and they then had to add an hour because songs over time started to get longer. So when he first started, songs were probably around 2 1/2 to 3. Minutes and then they start becoming 3 1/2 four minutes. So they had to add an extra. Hour to the show, I think that's great. 

God forbid if it was a metal Top 40 or a. Prog Rock Top 40 it'd take. Two weeks. 

And it also there's a lot. Of things that he also introduced. So obviously the format has been replicated with take 40 Australia and and everywhere else and I worked on a on a countdown show as well. Yeah. But it's interesting when you see some of the things that he introduced over time to that show and how they've been adopted into other. 

Yeah, of course. 

Countdown shows and just other regular shows, yeah. Some of the things he introduced became standalone shows as well. So he would do BIOS about the songs and the artists, the number jingles. So he'd record musical artists singing the songs and then later on record just average people on the street saying. 

Are singing the number or the? 5 feet. 

#24. 

Yeah. You know all of that stuff. It's so old school. But there is such a I think there's such a a value in that for the listener, it's it just adds. Be like American. 

Top gosh I. Remember that. 

A little bit of flair. To it that I think, and I think that a lot of like that it's a lost art like that stuff. It's still around now and like the radio promo is. 

Do you still have? I should probably look, but do you? Still, I don't think you. Have those nightly countdown shows or weekly ones in the same run away. 

I think well. 

I think if you listen to like a classic hits station like 2 CA or something like. Yeah, that's that's still the extreme. That's still doing a lot of that old school stuff, and there's a lot of charm to it, but a lot of the more contemporary shows, I think it's it's a bit more of a or the more contemporary stations, I should say it's a bit more of. 

A sausage factory and I think too the the nature of the music industry has obviously shifted. So back then it's based. And album sales and sales through your bricks and mortar music stores. Whereas now if you're doing a countdown show, you'd probably have to do a Spotify countdown show or an Apple Music countdown or a streaming best of show. It would be quite different. He also introduced and these became. 

Yeah, yeah. 

These big this became standalone shows on so many radio. Stations long distance dedications? He had that within the the Top 40 show, but that that became a show on its own right. Do you remember the long distance dedications at like 10? I used to stay up like at 10:00 at night listening. 

Oh my God. Yeah. Wow. You're right. Don't they do that like? TWS does like love songs and dedications TWS in Sydney. Yeah, and then it's like. 

Love songs and. 

It's just they've been playing really depressing songs and I I used to dub that like top yourself Tuesday. It's another top yourself Tuesday on two WS, yeah. 

And they do. The top three recaps, which is something that we started doing on the hot 30. So the next night or the next week, you'd recap the top three from the week before, just to remind. Your body and this one. I'm actually thinking maybe we should introduce this to our show. Whatever happened to where he periodically did a segment giving an update on an artist who people hadn't heard of. 

Oh really? 

For a while. 

Well, I think we've done that on occasion. Yes, probably. 

It's called the Internet. 

Internet. Just Google it. 

But imagine imagine doing that in the 80s when you didn't have the. Internet and someone ring and go. Casey kasem. Whatever happened to Shanice? You know Shanice. Who did? I love? Your smile heard in Woolworths radio the other day. Whatever happened to her? And he'd have to find out. And he didn't have. He didn't have Google, which is. 

Probably why he has to give credit to. All of his. Crew cause they're like man, I've busted my. 

Jumped on a. 

**** on that for you, Tracey. 

Plane to find Shanice in her hometown and see what she was getting up to. 

Just for one talk break, yeah. Exactly. And there were a lot of people behind the scenes that had to had to work for him and to him. And he was a consummate professional, a consummate professional and like every consummate professional, they hold the thing to a high standard. And you know what? Before I play this cause, we're gonna play some of his outtakes. Right. And he does get a bit cross in these outtakes. But what I want people to understand when. 

High standards, yes. 

They listen to this. Is that the buck stops? With Casey Kasem, yes he is the final voice. That is putting this out there. 

Completely agree. He's the face. 

His name? 

Of the show. Anything goes wrong, it's on him, doesn't matter who's done it behind the scenes. Yeah, who's stuffed up? It's on case. 

And so I'm team Casey Kasem all the way. I think he's, I I and I have even more respect. For him, after hearing this. 

The Count out will begin this Sunday afternoon at one right here on the radio station you grew up with. Music, Radio One. 380. What the hell is going on here? He's well, isn't it? The last hour, we got another. Hour to do. I thought we're almost finished. Good golly, Miss Molly, this ponderous man, ponderous and ponderous. Hi, this is Casey Kasem's American. Top 40 has moved to a new time. I hope you'll join me this Saturday morning and every Saturday morning at 22. Now we're up to our long distance. Education and this one is about kids and pets and a situation that we can all understand whether we have kids or pets or neither. It's from a man in Cincinnati. OH, and here's what he writes. Dear Casey, this may seem to be a strange dedication request, but I'm quite sincere and it'll mean a lot if you play it. Recently, there was a death in our family. He was a little dog named Snuggles, but he was most certainly a part of. Let's come start again from coming out of the record, play the record. OK, please. See, when you come out of those up tempo, *** **** numbers, man is impossible to make those transitions. And then you got to go into somebody dying, you know, they do this to me all the time. I don't know what the hell they do it for, but *** **** it, if we can't come out of a slow. Record I don't understand. It is down on the phone. OK. I want a *** **** concerted effort to come out of a record that isn't a ******* up tempo. Record every time I do a *** **** death. Dedication. Now make it. And I also want to know what happened to the pictures I was supposed to see. This week it's a God last *** **** time. I want somebody who's sucking brain to not come out of a *** **** record. That is that. That's up tempo. And I gotta talk about a ******* dog dying. 

I think that's fair enough. 

I agree. 

That's if I was actually waiting and I was waiting for. Him to go. A budgie named ******. 

D Casey, recently we lost our budgie, named Hawkeye, who I smuggled in the boot of my car or my parents car across Bass Strait in in rough Seas. Yeah. 

I I no, I feel him. I feel him. I I I agree. And I remember when we did the hot. 30 and whenever. Things bad things happened. We'd always get kids ringing up asking for Puff Daddy. I'll be missing you. And so we played that, you know, lost pets, lost friends. Parents. Yeah. Yeah, it it's hard. It's very hard. And I I totally understand. 

Oh God. It was the go to 1. 

Where he's coming from? 

It's like that now. That's like what? Is here to the one that we love. 

Yes, that's the new I'll be missing you. Yeah. Yeah. 

That one that that goes with everything. Yeah, it's a new. And I mean, he's right. Like you don't wanna be coming out of like. 

Hey. Yeah, yeah. 

And talking about a dead dog, you know, it's just not gonna work. Exactly. Exactly. You know? And like we said before, like Casey case, you would recognise that commercial voice servers, so many voiceovers in kids television. Now, the one that really springs to mind for me was G Force, which was gotcha. 

No it doesn't. Doesn't work off brand. 

Then the Japanese cartoons, which were then adapted to battle of the planets which was G Force which used to play on the afternoon show on ABC TV four years when it came out, I loved it so much, loved it so much 767. 

Battle of the planets. That was my favourite show. I still want to be Princess. I used to be like if I think. About her before I. Go to sleep. Maybe I'll wake up and bite her. 

Yeah, Mark, Princess, Tony and Keogh. 

I didn't like the fiery phoenix that creeped me out. 

I love the firing Phoenix anyway. Casey Kasem was the voice of Mark. 

Didn't like that. Look, did he also narrate? I think he did. Some narration in it, like the intro as well. 

Fairly certain, fairly certain. Maybe he was the worst of seven. Zach 7 as well, I'm not sure. 

I feel like. He did that too. It was like I think he did. Like when it becomes the fiery phoenix, I think that. 

Ohh yeah yeah, no, because it was like battle of the planet. 

Some narration. He also did voices on Sesame Street. Who was? He was scooped, something in Scooby Doo, Shaggy. 

Might have been him. Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Yeah. Yep. 

Transformers. And he did he. He's a promo voice over as well for NBC. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing voice no longer with us. Very sadly. 2014. Yeah. 

Yeah. I mean, what a, what a geek, right? No, 2014. I think he passed away, which is very sad, but I mean just definitely. Ohh, I can't even I'm yeah. 

Icon. I know. 

The count that will begin this Sunday afternoon at one right here on the radio station you grew up with. Music Radio 1380. 

Casey, Casey and that really took me right back to my childhood. Hearing that dude voice anyway, entertainment time now not a lot happening in entertainment, but I think one thing I mean Lord of the Rings return of the King is well, it's Boxing Day movies going crazy at the box office. It's getting towards making a billion dollars. So you can imagine that it's going to be. 

Still dominating world wise. 

Number one for some time I think. Anyway, the biggest thing that was happening in entertainment was a little TV show featuring 1 Donald Trump. 

My name is Donald Trump, and I'm the largest real estate developer in. New York I've mastered the art of the deal and have turned the name Trump into the highest quality brand. And as the master, I want to pass along my knowledge to somebody else. I'm looking for The Apprentice. This is the chance to work for me at a huge salary and more importantly, learn enough so that maybe they too can become a billionaire someday. This is going to be the dream job of a lifetime. Who will succeed and who will fail and who will be The Apprentice? 

Wow, so much job drama. 

So what's going on there all become the trolley pusher. 

7th of January 2004 The Apprentice debuts on NBC. Produced by Mark Burnett. Was he survivor? 

Yeah, it was the survival car, I mean. 

Yeah. Was he. Was he amazing race as well. He did a lot. He did a. 

Yeah, yeah, the. Minus, minus touch, basically anything that he touched in, in the world of reality shows kind of turned to gold, especially at that time. 

Lot, didn't he? Yeah. Judge the the business skills of a group of contestants. How many words per minute can you type? 

Oh, is that? Is that a business skill, is it? It gets delegating it. 

That's a business skill. Show me your latest resume. What font have you used? 

Ohh, you don't want to see my lady. So we'll go through a box the other day I saw. One of my resumes and it was. 

What fun was? 

The most appalling thing. Ohh. 

That even and that had all these fancy backgrounds, I couldn't even written. No, it was. It was like a. 

Just times new Roman. It's legible. I mean, you know, thank God. 

Cursive font. It was a cursive font, and then you had what was the background you got picture of an an album cover, isn't it? 

Oh, don't even know. 

I'm just like cracked earth. Yeah, I don't know. It's trying. To look like. An age little? 

So you're not gonna be on The Apprentice? 

I was actually just trying to stay on new start while I my waiting for my radio career to take off, which is why my resume was so. Because I was like they'll. Never hire me if my resume looks like this. 

Not with his. So judge the business skills of a group of contestants. The winner was going to be hired into a company owned by 1 Donald Trump. And he also obviously hosted the show at the time. 

The funny thing is, and I was like, didn't he go bankrupt like he went? I think he declared bankruptcy, though isn't built his empire back up by, I don't know what kind of means fair nor foul or. 

Did he? 

Whatever I don't. Know. Anyway, he did? Yeah, but now. 

Think you think back to 2004? Because I remember when this. Show came out and he was. 

Ohh yes. 

You know that obviously that you're fired, but he was so rude and he was so inappropriate. 

That there was. 

And he just. 

It wasn't there a charm to that as well. Weren't we charmed by him back then? 

I think I think we liked that he called out people's crap because there were some real douchbags on the show and he's just like you're an idiot. You're fired. Get out of here. And then they'd argue with him, and then he'd yell at them. 

I think I think we did too well. He was a straight shooter, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 

And you'd go, yes, yell at him. 

Love this. 

But could you ever imagine watching that show and watching the way that? Carried on and think he's going to be president one day like. It just so weird. It's so weird when. 

Yes. No, it's America and I believe anything is possible. Anything. Well, no. It was an actor and he became president. 

You think back? 

Have been. 

This wasn't an actor. This is a this is man turned reality star. It's just. 

This is a. 

Businessman, you know, at least it's somebody who actually had a job, didn't pretend to be someone for a job. 

But there's just. 

I don't know. I just never would have. 

Imagined just a wrestler became the Governor of Minnesota. A movie star had become the Governor of California. It's not that long a bow to draw it's America. 

OK. 

Anything is possible. 

So each season of The Apprentice begins with a new group of contestants trying to earn a place in one of Trump's organisations. They're often referred to, I think, as candidates, and they come from. Business backgrounds, I think. 

Is that like? In Big W, where they refer to the staff as associates. 

Exactly. Exact. Can I get a price check? Can I get a price check, please? Over in kids toys. 

Attention associates. Could Steve report to the labby? Section associates. Thank you. Yeah. 

Their backgrounds included real estate. Accounting, marketing and consulting, I think. There was a. Few people that ran restaurants, all kinds of things, but basically they were they were business people who were for the most part pretty full of themselves and thought, yeah, I'm good at business. I'm good at stuff. 

They were business people who who were full of themselves. Yeah. Who thought that they did alright with Mavis Beacon teachers type. 

45 words per minute each. 

They thought they did OK, but and the best thing about it was that that they were business people that were then thrust into share. 

I think that was the. Best part? 

And that's what, that's where I think the reality TV producers really tighten the thumb screws because they put the pressure on them and then they'd make them all have to live. With each other. 

Together, yes. 

As well, and I feel like the tension would build behind the scenes and then they would push them to the point where they would explode on camera. And look, that sort of thing and I'll I'm I'm going to take a bit of a side step because years later they did The Celebrity Apprentice and that was even bigger, a train wreck to watch because you had famous people with really big egos. And all of these people in business have big egos. You've got to have an ego to. Achieve any kind of success and it's not a dirty word and it's not a bad thing. You need to have a good opinion of yourself in order to market yourself to other people, right? Confidence is thing. It's like the sky hooks on you go is not a dirty word, but when you're putting a whole bunch of celebrities together like Gary Busey and Meatloaf. 

You need that confidence, yes. 

Then you can get a meltdown like this. 

Thank you. Spray paint. Thank you. No, I can't. 

Very much. Do your work and get out of my face. 

I'm not in your face. 

I'm gonna say something right now. I've got it. We are in here front of my charity is a bunch of very sick. 

Yes, yes, we are. Yes we are. 

Kids in Memphis. This kind of language, energy and stuff going on here is embarrassing to me. 

I agree. I'm sorry. I apologise to you. 

Can we please stop it done? Thank you. 

So there you go. Gary Busey and Meatloaf about to tee off until somebody intervenes and kind of points out the logic of the situation. But this is this is I mean this is nothing for me. Even season one of the that was a long way into the future of The Apprentice when they did The Celebrity Apprentice. I mean how Gary well Gary I guess it's like it's kind of like Celebrity Big Brother or something like that. The meatloaf, a big star? Yes. Gary Busey. Not so big a star. Yes. Meatloaf and Gary Busey in the same room together. Not a great idea. 

Not a great combination, no. 

Or or is it? 

Because it created that one of the biggest meltdowns in reality TV history. 

So they're living together in in the show, and I think there's two teams. And the idea is that these teams are corporations and they choose a name and that then becomes their name through the rest of the show. 

That's right, yes. 

And each week they're assigned a task, and I think they choose one person within the corporation to be the team leader or project manager. 

See, I would. Never let somebody who called themselves meatloaf. Decide no. I would never let them decide on the name for the corporation. 

Be the project manager. Hmm. Yes. Well, you'd. Pick the person that's the branding expert. This is branding experts in these. 

Well, in The Celebrity Apprentice, I think it's it's very much. 

It's whatever goes whatever turns up. 

A A mishmash but. That was when they were getting close to jumping the shark right at this stage the the concept is kind of legit. It kind of works. You've got two teams, corporations like you. 

This stage it's legit. It's. Were saying project manager. 

Yeah, everyone's got a role. 

For each each week they get. Tasks and the tasks. Usually revolve around some business skill, so sales marketing, different campaigns. Often they're trying to sell stuff to make money for charities, from from memory, and then after the completion they meet in the boardroom. One team wins, one team loses. Usually it's down to whoever sells the most or makes the most money in the challenge. And then you have the losing team. And I think you have the project manager and then you have. 

Charity. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. 

The project manager nominates. Two people who they felt didn't do so. Well in the chat. And I think the three of them and then up for elimination, is that how it works something? 

Yeah. And then and then? Trump basically chooses who he's. 

Like that, that is like. 

Gonna fire. So you're fired? Yeah. 

You're fired, yeah. Hmm. And then they. Argue a little bit. Get angry. Hmm. Right. 

And then they're escorted out the room. It's. Yeah. It's like a A rose ceremony. Except you get a dressing down from Donald Trump instead for your your. 

Efforts well, I jumped on the way back machine as well and looked at television without pity cause that's where I go for my synopses. Yeah, and their description of the show was meet the 16 fools who will be competing for an opportunity to suck up to Donald Trump for a living. Never have so many sold so much lemonade. For so little reward. Thankfully the I have a high IQ guy get sent home. 1st and I think. 

That's a very good. 

Synopsis. Soon that's yes. 

It was they they could have called it the sycophant. Really. And probably the queen of the sycophants. I would. I would have to say, and especially in season one she became quite famous. Was Omarosa just the biggest villain, the biggest villain on the show? And and her name still. The echoes can be heard throughout the the annals of history. 

I remember that name. Yeah. 

That's nice. 

We're still a bit. Frightened, as you say that, yes. 

20 years later. 

Omarosa I tried so hard today and staying you're away because of the team, not because I'm scared of, you know. That now I. Know you're scared being. A ***** is gonna be your problem. You have to live with that for the rest of your life. 

I called her a baby. I told her to go in the corner and get her pacifier. In her blanket and go cry, which. Is what she always does. 

I am not talking to you. I am. Talking if you don't like, I don't give a. 

You're emotionally unstable. 

That is like calling the kettle black. 

See, there you go with your racist, racist terms. What was that you said about black people? Nothing. 

No, I didn't say anything about black. 

I'm talking about you try. 

To contain your prejudice, OK, you're you're very intimidated. 

By black women, right? 

I don't think. 

That they've ever been around a strong African American woman, to be quite frank, I'm. 

Going to fight that? 

You're not. You're not going to win against her. 

Uh, it's so funny. It's so funny. Imagine that. Like you, you're having an argument with a black person. And and then you. Get pulled into that conversation and they say something and they're like, well, that's like the pot calling the kettle. Ohh. And now I'm out. It's over. It's over. You gotta back out of it. You're like you win. I'm very sorry. You win like it's just. That's hilarious. Yeah. 

Yes, I lose. Yeah, it ran until 2017 and then I think there was. Eight seasons of the celebrity version we we had the the Australian version as well who was The Who. 

Mark, I think it was Mark Borus. 

Was the Donald. Ohh yeah, what he. 

He was one of the guys. 

What did he do? 

I don't know it's. Like real estate or yeah, some Illuminati. 

Yeah, in the building or something, I don't know. What he did he. Wasn't as frightening as. Trump. But he was a bit stern. 

OK. 

And then they did. I think they did a UK version as well with another. Guy that did stuff. 

Well, I mean, why not? Why not go? Go. It's like idle but for sick offence but. 

Trump was fired by NBC because they disagreed with the remarks he made about Mexican immigrants during his announcement about running for president, and they were like, mate, No, no. 

Ohh that I mean my God, that's only one of the many faux pas that he made on that show. 

Like there was a lot of, there was a lot of, yes, a lot of inappropriate comments particularly towards the female contestants that he made, yes. 

If you go back and watch. Yes indeed. 

I think in 2015, then after he was. Ohh do you reckon they would have gone? You're fired when they. Fired him. 

Well, I hope so, I mean. 

Would have loved to have been the NBC. Guy that rang him up went Donald. Trump, you're fired. You're fired. 

Yeah, no, it would have been great. Yeah, that would have been very satisfying moment. And then and then he's become president. And you're like, oh. 

We've been great. Ohh great. Now now we're cancelled. Now we're getting no funding. We're screwed. Yeah. And then in September 2015, it was announced that Arnold Schwarzenegger would become the new host of The Celebrity Apprentice. I don't I I never watched. That so I don't know if that. 

And he's like, you're fired. Fired. Yeah. 

Actually had your fire. 

Have been much better. 

And I think Martha Stewart. Hosted one as well. She did a special yes, a special apprentice hosting. 

It's like the the prison apprentice. It's like and on this episode we're making number plates. Geez, that's a lot. That's a lot for one episode. You know we, I mean, we gotta we gotta. 

RIP Hawkeye, just quietly. So were you a were you a fan of mash? That's that's an odd name for a child to choose for. 

Yeah, it's, it's it's a painful memory. A budget my dad named the Budgie. Yeah. 

Ohh, but it was your budgie but your dad. 

Yeah, he said. Well, we'll call it. 

'S like no. 

Hawkeye and then. 

What did you say? Sure. Did you know? Who? Hawkeye was. 

Right on these. 

My grandma had a crush. On Hawkeye. 

Well, who didn't? Like everyone? I mean, how could you not know who Hawker Mash has mash was on the TV throughout my childhood for about yes, I do. Please don't do it. 

Did you know? Who? Hawkeye was. Did you watch? Did you watch Matt? Remember the song every afternoon at. What was it for for 2030? 

Like easily. 

Yes, Hawkeye was quite rugged to be honest, but. 

Was he? 

Yeah, it was just. 

An interesting choice of a name. For a budgie well. 

You can thank my father for that one anyway. 

Did he only have one eye? No. 

Why would he only have one eye? Hawks have two eyes. And see Hawks flying around with eye patches. What are you talking about? 

Just the whole car. 

Yeah, stupid question. 

It's a no, it's. It's an odd choice. I think. 

We got, haven't you, haven't you? 

Going straight into the answer. 

Got a mouse mat. To shave or something? Sure. Yeah, cool. I can help you out. 

I can shave yours if. 

With that later on. Ohh that'd be good I can. 

You like. Look, look, it's peeling. Look how these thing is peeling. 

Ohh, you're actually not OK wonderful. 

Very annoying when comes next. Spirit very uncomfortable. 

Yes, I know we need to. Smooth that out as it'll start it. 

Give you a. Rash. Yes. Don't. You don't wanna shave? Yes. No, we're going straight to the. 

And started to chafe my wrists anyway. 

Answer, aren't we? Yes, that's that. 

Ohh yeah, let's do this for God sakes. So the clue we've only got one for this week with the. Hatches, matches, dispatcher cement. 

Well, we've got we've got. Match and a conscious uncoupling in one amazing. 

Oh, so well, yeah, because we, well, I guess. It's a dispatch of a. Match with celebrity who had a wedding that was annulled pretty quickly after said this. 

Honestly, I really wanted to see what it was like. To be married. 

I mean, my God, if you don't know who that is, like, where have you been? It's the patron St of. If you said Britney Spears. Congratulations. I feel like she's all we ever. Talk about these. 

There's a big moment in pop culture, the 3rd of January 2000 and. 

Days it was. 

Four, she weds childhood. Paul and future Stalker Jason Alexander. 

Did he stalk her? 

Do you not remember when she married Sam? Do you not remember the life, the live TikTok when Jason Alexander broke into her house? Yeah. 

Sam Asgari. Oh, was that him? I thought it was K. Fed no. Ohh OK. 

Jason, he broke into a house and he's filming the Tik. 

Right. 

Right. That was present day. 

He's telling everyone that he was in there and the sick. And where's the security? I still don't understand. But no, but back in 2004, they got married at a little white wedding Chapel. That's its name, not the description in Vegas. No, she. 

But OK. Right, good. 20 years ago he married her. The Omarosa wouldn't approve of that. 

He said Jason said that Spears had invited him to Las Vegas on a private jet and he thought it was just a friend. Asking another friend to come on a trip for New Year's and he's gone. Yeah, the boys. Let's go. You know what happens in Vegas? Stays in Vegas. Yeah. And then he said that Britney asked him to marry her, and then he obviously said yes. He said she just came out and asked me. She's like, well, let's get married. And he was like, sure, you know, let's do this. Britney does talk about it in her book. The woman and me, her recently released memoir. According to her. Her Jason and Brittany, he and I got faith I don't even remember that night at. 

Oh lovely. 

All but from. What I've pieced together we lounged around in the hotel room. We watched movies, we watched Mona Lisa smile and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Great combo. 

Good mix. I reckon Brittany picked the Texas Chainsaw Massacre just. 

I think so too, I think so. Too and look. Nothing cries. Let's go and. Get hitched, like watching the Texas Chainsaw and. 

Exactly, yeah. 

Secondly, you know what? I'm in the mood for an hour in. The mood to get married? 

That you never know when some person could turn you into a dead skinned man. So you better get married. Life is short, and it's even shorter in Texas, yes. 

Everlasting. Everlasting love. Yes. Yeah. So they watched that and then she thought, well, let's go to the a little white Chapel name, not description. At 3:30 in the morning. And then she went on to explain in her book that she wasn't in love with him. She was just drunk and bored. 

Yes, yes, she also spoke. To Entertainment Tonight to that dude with the really bad veneers and the blow dried hair, I can't remember. His name? And so so. 

Ohh great. 

This is like an extension of the actual clue, but where she goes on to elaborate more about what happened. 

Honestly, I really wanted to see what it was like to be married. Maybe that sounds. Silly, but in in that moment I was just I was with a friend and that I loved dearly and I wanted to do something wild and crazy, and I wanted to get married. So that's why I did it. 

If you're a hot, young, sexy, sizzling, super saucy songstress who experiences marriage for 55 hours, what will? Gift. You'll get wedding gift headlines from hell like Britney out of control. And is she over the? 

After the marriage, they. 

Said that, yeah, you don't walk by. 

I know I'm choose not to look at. 

The mouth you don't. The headline you walk by the magazine stands. 

No news to me. 

Baby, how do you deal with it? How does it make you feel? It would. It would crush me. 

Honestly, I'm I'm working. I'm working right now and I really like. I didn't even know it until you just told me that. But since that happened, it's made me definitely want to think about what I do a little bit more because they blow away out of proportion. 

I don't know that you can blow a a wedding like in Vegas. I don't think it got blown out of proportion. 

No. Look, Brittany, when I'm drunk and bored, I just buy things on the iconic I. 

Yes. Well, in her in her defence. 

Bought some snap pants. That's when I. Was drunk and. Bought, but that only cost me $45. 

In her defence, online shopping wasn't that big back then and also she was in Las Vegas and I mean. 

Well, that's. Snap pants would have been. 

You and I have been drunk in Las Vegas and we so we can't really throw stones here because if well, no, we got married. Well, we we got married before we went there. But we did get tattoos at a tattoo shop off the strip. 

A better option? Well, we didn't get married. And the a little what Chapel? 

Called the precious. 

****. No. The precious **** too. Which is interesting because I I I wonder where the precious slot one was and how successful it was that they needed. 

Oh, sorry. 

#2. 

Exactly by name, by nature, and the fact that they sell crack pipes in the glass cabinet at the front of the counter should have been a bit of a telltale sign. So. 

That wasn't drunken board. That was. That was a great idea. Stand by that choice. 

So do I. Don't stand by the infection, but anyway. We did not get it. I didn't get an infection. It was all good. Yes, but that's only because you had to wear jeans afterwards anyway. So I don't think we can throw stones, is what I'm saying. And like, I mean, I know friends that have gone to Vegas and gone to the wedding Chapel and and done that. And it's just because it's a fun thing. 

Yeah, I did. Yes, that was on. Nor nor. 

To do when. In Vegas. So I do get it. 

And does it? Even count, I feel like it doesn't even. 

And maybe, well, I don't think it counts. I don't think it counts when. 

That's something to do. 

You're getting married. By Elvis with a fake tan and really bad cholesterol, that's probably drunk at 10:00 AM and looks like he's about to have a stroke in the middle of love me tender. Do you know what I mean? I I. Don't think it's. 

A problem. OK, well, Fast forward to 3rd of January plus 55 hours, so that would be either the 4th or the 5th, maybe the 6th. I don't know. I don't mass her surprise marriage is annulled less than. 55 hours. After time the not with Jason Alexander. Stating that she lacked understanding of her actions, I she was. Drunk and bored. 

Yeah, that's good for always peace. 

And couldn't find any snap pants on the iconic, so she thought next best thing, let's get married and then obviously back to the stalker story. And it was 2022. He he broke into her house because he knew that. 

Right. 

He was getting married. Maybe he knew something that we don't know, given that those two have now separated Sam and Brittany. Maybe there was something he knew. 

Yeah, yeah. He's trying to. 

Because there's been. A lot going on with Brittany still post conservatorship, maybe there's something that he knew that no one else did from that night in Vegas. 

Trying to be a white knight, you reckon? 

That he was trying to save her. But anyway, he breaks into her house again. Where's the security? This is Brittany's house. I don't understand. And he was live streaming. It was either on TikTok or Instagram. 

Yeah, yeah. 

It is quite weird considering so many other aspects. Of her life are controlled, yes. 

So guard it. How did he? How did he #1 how? Did he know where? Where? She lived and. She how did he even get in there? But he's he's actually in her house. I think the footage is still. Line and he's walking down the corridors and he's like, I'm in her house and I think he even got to her room from memory and then he gets crash tackled and and pulled out. 

Yeah. Wow. Yes. 

Just before the ceremony. 

Well, I mean that's interesting. 

Yes, and it was a weird ceremony. There's. Just there's a lot of questions I think. 

It's a strange thing to do. 

We should talk. I think we need to talk to Jason. 

Well, now that marriage isn't happening either. 

I think Jason has some answers. Think Jason knows that we don't know. 

Jason, I don't wanna talk to Jason. No, I really. I don't wanna talk to Jason. I I am attracted to the mystery of the whole thing, to be honest with you. And I feel like the more answers I get, the less I'll care. So I'm happy to to just leave. Exactly. And just have. 

You don't want to. It there we'll just tack it, put a pin. 

A mystery. 

In it and we'll. Move on, OK. 

Exactly. Let's not try and get scientific about this. 

OK. 

Like, I mean, she's a. Drunken boat, like exactly like. It's like it's like people who are, you know, really involved in organised religion. I don't wanna question the existence of it. I just wanted to just be OK, exactly. OK. And the other thing that needs to just be is us, we need to be out of here. Because that's the end of this episode for this. 

And there's some mouse mats to shave, some fridges to organise, and my close up glasses are going great. Just quietly. Yes, I haven't had to make up answers and lie. I. 

There. Well, apparently. Really. Are you enjoying your glasses? 

Can read this week. 

They look as fabulous on. You feel like they're a bit. I hope the cameras don't pick up the glare from them, because otherwise you're gonna. Look like peculiar. 

Umm, no. I got the the ones with the anti glare. I I told them. Yeah, said my husband. He always has to film the show on the flex and. 

Did you do that? That's very thoughtful of you. Like you are amazing what's happening next week. Do we know? 

Ohh space. We're going back to Mars, remember the remember the Rovers, the Rovers that we talked about? Ohh mid last year. Those two Rovers were set off into space. We have some closure. 

Get your. *** to Mars. Yeah, yes, love the Rovers love it with Space Rover story. They touched down. Wonderful. 

Nintendo has a big announcement. 

Yes, this was suggestive. We'll get to that. It's it was a bit too sexy for Nintendo, if you ask me. Yeah, it was like Mario stepping out with a GIMP. Ask zip. It's me. Ohh. That's a bit creepy. 

And we have a couple of TV debuts. We have a reality show that's a bit more, but we. 

Right. 

Have a really. Ground breaking series for the for the time that yes. 

Excellent, that's enough. That's definitely enough for. 

Hello Jake. 

OK. Thanks. New year, new US. No, same us new year. 

But please look at the tape. Can everyone just go and have a look at the? I think it's on the podcast cover art and I'll put it on the social scale. Can you please have a look at the tape that's coming out of the correct hole now instead? 

Because it's anatomically correct. 

Of multiple holes. Thank you. Thank you, Michael. Thank you. Thank you for verifying that for us. 

You guys go and have a look at the tape. I am going to. I am going to check out Mel's Mouse mats just to make sure it's trimmed correctly around the edges and we'll see you next week. 

Check out our type. 

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