The Passion of The Christ makes shocking debut

Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of The Christ” makes its debut this time 20 years ago and the overwhelming response was that people were overwhelmed! 

And that is just one story in what was a massive week!

The United Nations came clean saying they could not find any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. UN weapon inspector David Kay simply said “We were almost all wrong”, which sent the media into a frenzy.

We also had Russians on ice with the dramatic rescue of 12 scientists trapped in the arctic circle doing what they claimed was, errr, research, yes research on climate change.

Martha Stewart was charged for insider trading while Britney Spears launched her Onyx Hotel tour. 

We had new albums from The Living End, singles from Guy Sebastian and we got to put Chingy to the test with “will it nursery rhyme” as “One Call Away” entered the US Billboard charts.

And just when you thought that was all we had the 76th Annual Academy Awards with all the Oscars going to The Lord of The  Rings! Pimp my Ride made its debut on MTV. John Grisham’s “The Last Juror” became the latest book we didn’t read to top the NY Times bestseller list.

And somewhere, somehow Peter Andre’s “Mysterious Girl” found its way back to the top of the UK singles chart…

We’re exhausted just thinking about it!

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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Week of 29 February 2004. 

T minus. You know what? I'm very forgetful. 

The rest is history. Hello there. 

Stop trying to make fetch happen. 

What are we waiting for? 

This is harder than I thought it would be. 

My fellow Americans, let's roll. 

Welcome to the podcast where we make fetch happen each and every week. We go and fetch all of this information from what happened at this time 20 years ago. We rewinded to this week in history 20 years ago. T -. 20 is what we're called Joe and Mel is also what we're called. We're your host. Hello. 

Mel, hi. Hi everyone. How are you? 

Yeah, I'm OK. That was a bit of a sort of some verbal acrobatics then I didn't realise that I was getting into it until I started getting into it and then I was. 

You're right. 

Like how am I? Gonna get into it, but I got into. 

And then you did your ACL in the cartwheel. 

It yeah, no season ending injuries here. Not this early in. 

Season we have fetched a whole bunch of goodness from the 29th of February through to the 6th of March 2004. 

Let me begin by saying we were almost all wrong, and I certainly include myself here. Senator Kennedy knows very directly. Senator Kennedy and I talked on several occasions prior to the war that my view was that the best evidence that I had seen was that Iraq indeed. Had weapons of mass destruction. 

Well, did they? Did they now? 

Ohh, a big back flip with the first interview from the UN's weapon inspector, David Kaye. 

A backflip that turned into a bombshell that set the tongues of the media wagging the world over. 

Eviction could mean prison for the businesswoman who sold herself to millions of Americans as a personal guide to gracious living. 

Martha Stewart, we're talking about there. She didn't have a very good week this time, 20 years ago in court. 

Mother, mother, mother. But I had a great week. 

And that's my week ruined as well. Wonderful. Did you? Did you really good dancing in the streets, weren't you? 

This week, 20 years ago, yes and I'm. So excited, I didn't think we'd ever get to talk about Peter Andre. That's why I shoved him in back when we were removing R Kelly. 

You mean no? I'll bet you did. 

Shoved him into the show, thinking I'll take every opportunity I can get to shove in a Peter Andre. And now look, here he is. And this this week it's legit. We get to talk about Peter Andre. Should I get my fan club letter out? And read it again, it's. 

No, please don't. I'm really interested to see how how legit it actually is. Well, that was the music you're into 20 years ago. I'm still in and you're still into the same stuff. And that's good for you. 

Good. It's good. It's a great font. Red paper. Hmm. 

I'm still into the same stuff as well. 

It's like you. 

See a lot of things on social media saying. The music that you like sort of in your early 20s, that's it. You don't move on and that's that's very much me to the point where Spotify, when I do a workout, I go workout mix and it's created old school workout mix for me and it's all early 2000s. It knows me so well. 

They're very impressionable years. I think you're early, 20s and that's. 

And I just haven't moved on and I'm I'm proud. 

The music. I don't know. I do have conversations with people. Because I still dress like I'm 15. You know, I always wear heavy metal T-shirts and stuff. I got Iron Maiden shirt on now and I have these horrible conversations with people who are like, Oh yeah, like, I'm like, you know, rapidly approaching 50. And I was like, yeah, I remember when I was in the. 

Yes, you do, yes. You've got your good one on. 

Heavy metal once and it's just like once once. 

I had long hair once people say that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I used to have. 

What are you talking about? Long. What's stopping you from being? You're so wonderful. Why did you walk away from it? Why? What did it ever do to you? Why did it leave you? 

Here, don't wear black shirts. They turned corporate. 

Yeah. Sorry. Well, So what? 

Is it to incorporate? 

So look, you can still be a closet fan. It doesn't matter what you look like, you can still enjoy it. Actually, it's interesting though. In 3-3 weeks no, only two weeks, two or three. I don't know. I'm going to a festival to see a band that I used to worship as a teen. 

Put in a shirt and tie. Are you going to wear? A flower crown. 

I'm not gonna wear a flower crown. I'm gonna wear very practical clothing. Well, it's it's a heavy. It's a heavy metal fest, and I just at what stage are you too old to attend a festival? Because there's a lot of things about fest. 

Not one of those festivals where you get your nips out. Ohh, OK. Yes, very different. 

Intervals that I don't like and the number one thing that I don't like about music festivals is other people. It's just. 

Ohh I thought you would say festival. Strength beer. That's disappointing. 

I don't. I'm OK with that. I'm not even going to, you know, write myself. There's one band that I want to see at this festival. 

You already have that. So you're going to a whole festival for one dance. 

It's the only chance I'm going to get to see them, maybe for a very long time. Two of the members have already passed away, which was very sad. One of them passed away in 2004, which we'll get to at the end of the. Year. But so I'm going to this festival, not fest in Sydney at Centennial Park. 

Not so. That's to do with Slipknot, right? 

Well, yeah, and like I used to listen to a little bit of Slipknot back in the day, but they've got this big festival and I just, I know. Well, I hope I'm not, but I feel like I'm going to be one of the oldest dudes there. 

Ohh you will be. 

Yeah. And I and I feel like I've still got a pretty practical head on my shoulder, so I know how to navigate my way around a music. 

What are you gonna wear? 

First of all, some shorts with some button up pockets so that I don't lose. Well, I'm not even gonna take my wallet. I'm just gonna take my phone, right? Yeah, because you can just tap and go with everything at first. 

The pockets? Yes, already. 

Of all now, do you wear earplugs at a festival? See, it's outside. Do you still need to protect you using the? Same kind of way as a venue. 

It's that's it's. I think it. I think for me it's always been it depends on how close to the stage you get. But I do intend I do intend to get reasonably close to the stage but the the thing starts at 11:00 in the morning, the headline, the headlining act, it will be on probably about 8:00 at night and it will all wrap up by 10:00. 

You gonna get close. 

That sounds. 

I do not intend on showing. Up until about 5:00, maybe six in the evening. Well, I'll check. I'm obviously going to check all the times and make sure because I would be devoted if I missed out, you know, and. 

What if they are on a? Bit earlier than you. I'm saying you're only going. For one bag, yes. 

Well, the other thing is, is those guys in the band that I wanna see are old too. 

So. So maybe they wanna go. Maybe they wanna do the matinee. Maybe they. 

Ohh so so they can be home in time to watch like law and order or Matlock or. 

Wanna go early? That's that's what I'd do if I was him. Yeah. Put me on at midday. 

True. And they're all they're all in rehab now. So they're all rehabilitated so they don't have any substance issues. So they, I mean, they. 

Need a nap? Yeah. 

To be pretty bored, maybe they do. Maybe they just want to wrap everything up by. 6:00 so are you. 

Gonna go up the front and. 

Motch umm no, no ACL. Don't wanna do. Don't wanna do the ACL, my dear. No, I don't. This is one of those bands too. Where? Back in the day. If you did go up the front and mosh with them, you'd probably get your nose. 

Risk risky is. 

Broken so, but. But, you know, and it's funny that they're all a little less animated than the well. Yeah, but it's it's. It is my Mount Rushmore of music, so I'm I'm pretty excited to go and see it. I'm and it they they're controversial, which is why I kind of haven't name drop. 

OK, maggianos. They'll join service way excellent too. 

Them because there's been a lot of stuff in the press, particularly with the lead singer, so Pantera headlining, not 1st and Pantera were just the biggest band in the world in the 90s in the late 90s and early 2000s. They were huge, and they kind of imploded. And you know, it all ended really badly. We'll talk about it later on in the year. Like I said. But I I never thought in my wildest dreams in in my lifetime that I and I've seen them at numerous times. I've seen them four times, so 4 * 3 * 4 times. Ohh God, I will have seen them four times after this festival. Which is I. I'm more fortunate than a lot of people, especially in Australia, who who have never. Them and it's gonna be quite a thing. It's gonna be really surreal, you know, especially with two members now, now no longer with us and and a couple of really prolific and competent musicians in Zach Wild and Charlie Benante from Anthrax playing. It's going to be it's going to be. I I can't even. I don't even know what to say about it. It's going to be really strange. And I'm really old and I do not want to occupy the same space as other people to enjoy it. So I it's a real catch 22. It's one I've. Yeah, I do that sounds. 

You need a private show. A matinee, a private matinee show. That's the answer. 

Yeah. We go into a little booth and that sounds really odd anyway. 

Ohh dear. 

See the Hatch match and dispatch clue. We will revisit this person at the end of the episode and you can kind of guess now and then all will be revealed later. A hatch, a hatch. Someone who's having their 20th birthday. Who said this? 

Like if y'all y'all weekend. I'm not too *****. I want you. To be for real. 

Sorry, what just happened there lots. Of things. What was that? 

Lots of it. 

Was that a person? 

That's that's the second headliner at not Fest, no. 

Well, I'm definitely not showing up until very late, but I don't know what that was. Anyway, we'll all find out together, right? That's. Is that what, 20 year olds sound like these days? Wow. 

20 year old. That's what that was. Yes, it is. 

I I weep for our society. Here's Mel with the news. 

Ohh thank you. 3rd of March 2004, we have the very first interview from well, at this stage he is the former UN weapons inspector, David Kay. He resigned in January 2004. Saying he believed no such arms existed and the failure to find any such arm. Has raised serious questions about the quality of the pre war intelligence. 

We're talking about the weapons of mass destruction, the WMD's. 

V yes. Yes, those ones. 

Yeah, well, actually it it's everyone used to say WMD's, which is actually grammatically incorrect because it's weapons of mass destruction. So it's just WMD, the WMD. There's no. 

Yeah, yeah. Yes. Because the barrel, the plurals on the weapons from the W. Ohh gosh, that's annoying. 

Exactly. Exactly. David Kay. He knew where it was at when you listened to him talking to the Senate, saying there were no weapons of mass destruction. He says this. 

Let me begin by saying we were almost all. And I certainly include myself here. Senator Kennedy knows very directly. Senator Kennedy and I talked on several occasions prior to the war that my view was that the best evidence that I had seen was that Iraq indeed had weapons of mass destruction. I would also point out that many governments that chose not to support this war. Certainly the French President Chirac, as I recall, in April of last year, referred to a rock's possession of WMD. The German, certainly the intelligence service, believed that there were WMD. It turns out we were all wrong. Probably in my judgement, and that is most disturbing. 

Yes, it is disturbing, but you were not all wrong. David Kay, in your application of WMD. 

You've got good acronym. Well done, David. 

Correct. He gives good acronym. 

That was he was appearing before the Senate then, and when he did that, I think. It was quite a moment. I don't think anyone was expecting him to be so candid in what he was going to say. 

No, no. And I remember the headlines after that, that and they were just like ohh, you know, keep the UN weapon inspector says that he yeah he. 

And everyone kind of flipped out and I think they were trying to then reinterpret, reimagine, remix what he was saying. Yes, they were trying to, trying to make it sound a little bit better than than it was. And the media was accused of focusing on a single sound bite. 

It's been they're trying to read that, yes, yeah. 

Ignoring the findings that the Iraqis had been trying to develop long range missiles, they were not entitled to and had the means to reconstitute their weapons programmes once the international pressures offered a very different. 

Yeah, so it's. 

Like it's like, well, they didn't have the weapons, but they had the like. 

And they were maybe gonna build some when we stopped looking. 

That's right. They had the they might have had the equipment, they might have had, like some stuff over there. And then in that location over there, they might have stuff. And if those two locations they got together. 

Bring all those things. 

Yeah, who knows? Ohh. 

Then maybe we would have had some weapons of mass destruction, but because they didn't do that, we didn't find any. But we could have. We could. Have you never know. 

So then on the 3rd of March 2004, David has his first a fish interview and he basically doubles down saying I was convinced and still am convinced that there were no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction at the time of the. Well, he said that he believed any weapons the Iraqis had were probably destroyed before 1990. 

Eight, that's a. That's a significant amount of time. That's like 6 years. 

Yeah, long gone. Long gone. 

Yeah, that's, you know, so he also wanted to say that George W Bush should actually come clean about it and say that he was wrong about them having stockpiles. Cause that's what he said. He said that stockpiles of it, biological, chemical, the, the, the whole shebang. They've got it all and that's where we're going. And because he couldn't accept that intelligence was wrong. He he he. He was giving the impression that people had been deliberately misled. 

Yeah. So Doctor Kay wasn't kind of he wasn't coming down on the government. He was saying we had bad intelligence. And what we need to do is admit that because. 

No. Well, you could hear him, he says. 

By not admitting that you're basically making yourself look like you're hiding something. 

Right. And he also, because he also says like, well, France thought the same thing. And Germany thought the same thing. Like a lot of people thought the same. We weren't the only people that. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Thought that yeah. But we got bad Intel. Yeah, yeah. 

So he felt that. That Bush had acted in good faith and he was working on the Intel that he was given. But he needs to admit it and sort of say this this information was wrong to regain the public trust. 

Not only was this information wrong, but I'm now going to try and find out why I think that's that's the missing piece of the puzzle. It's like, and that would have been a really good thing for him to do as a leader would be to say, hey. 

Yes, yes. 

We we kind of screwed this up. We were wrong. We thought we were right. All the Intel pointed to it. The Intel was bad. I'm gonna find out why it was bad and what happened. 

No, he never did that and. It It 2004 is the well, it's the election year is now, isn't it so? 

He's too busy playing golf and doing on. Yeah. So he's. Really, he's campaigning at the moment, hmm. 

It's probably a little bit too. Nervous about that? Mm-hmm. 

Indeed, somebody else who was a little bit nervous on the 5th of March was. The businesswoman, TV personality and lifestyle guru Martha Stewart, who was found guilty in a court of law on charges relating to insider trading. Now remember she was a she was a she wasn't, was she arrested? She was charged. I don't think they formally arrested her. 

But I think there was cuffs on and no padding down or anything, right? I don't think it was dramatic. I think it was Martha coming in sense. 

No, it's Martha Stewart. I mean, yeah, where are you gonna go, Martha? 

Conviction could mean prison for the businesswoman who sold herself to millions of Americans as. A personal guide to gracious living. 

Miss Stewart, is there anything you want? 

To say Martha Stewart chose to face a jury of her peers rather than accept the plea bargain, the home decorating diva is accused of lying to the government about a stock trade in December of 2001, she abruptly sold nearly 4000 shares of Imclone worth $227,000, just a day before bad news. Broke about the company's cancer drug. That trade saved her at least $46,000 in losses. 

And let's face it, she sold that stock at a very suspicious time. 

Charles Gasparino broke the Stewart story for the Wall Street Journal and is now writing a book on the Wall Street scam. 

How would anybody know to sell a day before that announcement? And by the way, if she did have information that people didn't have, she should be held accountable? 

Stewart told investigators she had a standing order with her broker, Peter Bacanovic, who's also on trial to sell the stock if it fell below $60.00 M clones founder Sam Waxell, a close friend of Stewart's. Is already serving seven years for insider trading. If convicted, Stewart could face up to 30 years in prison for a transaction that saved her all of $46,000. Her career could now be at. 

Stake I still think. It's weird, like I think it's more naivety on Martha Stewart's behalf that that happened because like $46,000 would be chicken face. 

I don't think she cares about that. That's she got that in her purse down the back of the couch. 

Somebody just said, hey, this has happened. She's like, well, hell, sell the shares. And they went OK and they went cool. And then and then some journo with it, a bit of an axe to grind and just nailed it to the wall. And as a consequence, she found herself in court. And she's in a bit of trouble. He was he was really thrilled. 

That reporter was very excited, wasn't he? I don't think he likes craft. 

Yeah, I don't think so either. I mean, you know. 

I think he's got a problem with craft and the problem with baking. 

Yeah. And like, what's? So what kind of person are you? 

Very nice. And he put his sound effect in the guy that was writing the book. Did you hear they put. Like it was nice, wasn't it? 

A little typewriter sound effect in there just to add a little bit of authenticity to it to give. 

Yeah, really. Sold it really. Sold the story for me. 

It a bit of pzazz, yeah. Put some kind of embezzlement or filigree on the whole thing, which I think Martha Stewart would actually. 

Appreciate. Yes. Yeah, she would. So let's all stop this hate on Martha. Yeah, that's right. She's buying up the clone stocks, but they weren't cloning people. It was a cancer drug. And then I don't know, they've had some adverse findings and she sold the stuff and then then she got dubbed on. Yeah. 

It's you feel bad for. 

Her in hindsight, I remember at the time going. Wow Martha Stewart in gaol. This is amazing. 

Well, it's a tall, poppy, tall poppy syndrome, you know, she's like America's. 

And all the. 

Crafters were like in mourning, and they were Devo. 

America's mum, America's craft person. She's like, you know, she's promoting, like a good lifestyle and you know, a healthy, clean home. She's virtuous. 

Yeah, it was a big story. Think about it now it's like. I don't think she. 

And then she falls from grace. 

Care about 40. Ki, don't I? I just think it. I think it was an innocent mistake. Yeah. 

No, no, it's a misstep. She falls from grace and everyone's like, oh, she could get 30 years in prison. Oh, my goodness. You know what she got? And we'll talk about it later on, but spoiler alert. Five months. 

Five months? Yeah, well, five months in Gaol, 5 months, she wasn't allowed to leave the home like 5 months. House arrest. And then I think 2 years probation. I would love to be confined to my home for five months. That's not a punishment. 

Well, she doesn't need to leave the hand. She's Martha Stewart. She's got lots of stuff to do there. We almost were with COVID and yes, I agree we had. We had a good time. I'd like to do it without other people getting sick. That would be good. Yeah. OK, let's go to the 6th of March. This is an interesting story. This one. This is a yeah. This is a rescue up in the the well. I really love John Carpenter's movie The thing. 

That's great. Do it again. Have a good times. Yes, without that. You like this one, don't you? Been. Banging on about. This all day. 

And it's set, I think. Was it in the Arctic Circle? It might have been Antarctic. Anyway, I like things in. Very cold because I'm a cold kind of guy, but this is up in the Arctic Circle up in the North Pole. Russian helicopters are battling. 

In the eyes. Oh gosh. Is that the Santa Claus end? 

Yeah, OK. Yeah, they're battling Russian helicopters, battling freezing conditions, deep beyond the Arctic Circle to rescue 12 scientists that were stranded on a research base that was crushed under this massive wall of ice. Right. They were trapped. They're doing an expedition known as the North Pole 32 Mission right on. So they're out there on behalf of Santa. They had a legion of elves. They had 12 reindeer. 8 reindeer. How many reindeer descender have? 

32 is a nice #4 eighths. 

Eight. I don't know. It depends. Anyway, the mission involved the scientists and support staff conducting research operated at the North Pole 32 drifting ice station. So they're on on ice shelf. 

What's your name? Can we just stop? Yeah. Can we talk about what a drifting ice station is? Cause I think that's quite interesting. So they set up, they set it up on this piece of ice that moves. So they drift with the ice. 

Yeah, it's not solid land. It's ice. 

Yeah, they're just, like, floating along on a piece. 

Yeah, well, they're investigating global warming, and this is where it becomes very interesting. Anyway, this this station is a research facility that's on the ice flow in the ocean, right. It's it's going to study all these scientific phenomena rated related to the Arctic environment in. 

Of ice. 

Including climate change, the dynamic of ice, oceanography and atmospheric conditions. 

I didn't think. We cared that much about climate change early 2000s. 

Well, Putin did. He was a bit of. 

He doesn't strike me as a greenie or an environmentalist or someone who cares too much about those things. Well, I think that would. 

A visionary here. No, he's not. Not at all. Not at all. But the I mean, well, the the he's very interested in in the. 

Be in his top five. 

Arctic for a lot of reasons, and Russia has been. Very just fall so. Gestation drifts with the ice pack, and the researchers are able to gather data from remote and harsh regions so they're on the ice. It's drifting around in the ocean. They're drilling things. They're taking samples of water. They're figuring out what's melting and what's not and why. And finding things when things do melt as. Well, but during this expedition, this huge 10 metre higher wall of ice rears up from the surrounding ice flow, so it comes up and then it crashes down on the base right and then the rescuers are like, well, it's going to take us 4 hours to get there at least. So they have to fly 4 hours to get the 12 researchers and two doggies. That they have because they got dogs on the ice float from the station. It -39°C. This is unbelievable. Like, this is a big rescue attempt. They're extremely extreme conditions. Extremely. Stream. That's what I said. They they launched this rescue mission, but it takes ages because of how far away it is, how cold it is there. I think they were. I I don't. I feel like they're at the northern tip of Europe. That's where they're kind of trying to deploy from and they couldn't land the helicopters on the ice sheet under the base, especially after the collapse. They're like, well. 

Double stern. Well, of course, yeah. 

Is it going to fall into the ocean? So this is this is a big deal because Russia are very interested in the North Pole. 

Controlling the Arctic's rich resources and strategic value has long been an ambition of Soviet and Russian leaders, and Putin is no different. He also aspires to make the Arctic a pillar of Russia's return to great power. And now these ambitions are becoming a reality. The country currently owns nearly half of the Polar territory. And 24,000 kilometres of coastline, this territorial dominance has allowed Russia to expand its military significantly in the region over the past 10 years. 

That's right, military. 

So they're not environmental doesn't. Care about the. 

Well, no. And the reason why look, this is a a theory, but he can, if they start moving nuclear submarines, if they start moving warships, if they start moving things. 

You're from us. Weapons of mass destruction. 

Well, that's what a nuclear submarine is, Mel. If they, it just enables them to access like it's like they go over and under like it's like it's it, it creates a a shorter passage so as. The ice melts, there is more shipping channels that may open up in the Arctic and and also there's a lot, they've got military bases, there's got a massive nuclear submarine base up there now in extremely in an extremely harsh environment. So they're very interested in it. And they they feel like I think that that is a place where they are. Able to access. They are able to be in range if you know what I'm saying. 

Hmm, that's a bit of a worry. 

I kind of don't want to. I don't want to say too much, but I. But you know what I mean. Yeah. So you know that one that they the rescue was from was I think their first permanent research station near the North Pole since the Soviet Union fell. They didn't have much running after that. So the, the, the 70 Polis 32, was that this this return to polar exploration. 

No. Allegedly, allegedly. 

Was one of the first ones and then this disaster happened and the thing it actually. Completed a full. Polar circle on drift ice since its launch. 

Yeah, I think it was really close to completing its mission. I think it. 

Right. 

Was only a few weeks. Away when this happened, yeah. 

But like we said, they're very determined to build a lot of stuff up there, put a lot of infrastructure and they own a lot of space up there as well. Let's go over to sport. We're staying on the ice as well. We're talking ice hockey. We're to it. Yes, we're to a fight in a game of ice hockey broke out. So this and this was one of the biggest fights in the history of ice hockey. On the 5th of March, the Philadelphia Flyers and Ottawa Senators set a national Hockey single league. 

Oh, is that what that is? Are the legit fights we are talking about a fight, right? 

Game record with 419 combined penalty minutes due to a brawl involving all six players of the entire people group of people on the ice fighting each other, including the goalies. They also set a team record the Flyers for the most penalty minutes in a game with 213. 

Including the goalies. 

Almost like now you don't wanna be the guy who doesn't get kicked out. Of the game. 

Well, now the Ottawa Senators are down to three on the Bench, 3 on the eights. The flyer is down to four on the bench. 

So there was nobody almost left to play the game. 

Just the goalies. 

It was madness. 

So did everyone have to sit there and wait for the 419 combined penalty minutes? 

Well, I guess cause when you get well. 

So that's a very long. In games? Or is it just the people that are kicked off the ice are sitting there and then that combines and it still keeps going with the other people? So we all didn't have to? 

Well, you well, the I mean. For a period of time. So if they're all out there. 

Sit there waiting for that. 

So if they're all out there and they start to bash the speed out of each other, then the penalty minutes out up ice hockey's very strange game, yeah. 

Nice to watch it down at the Phillip Ice Skating centre. 

Did you what do you think of it? 

Yes, it was. It was. 

Did you like? 

It the night night. 

Yeah, the Canberra nights. Yeah, I think it's the Canberra Braves. 

It was. It was. 

Yeah, full on cause they had because I used to do ice skating there. There's an ice skating disco on the Friday night, but then for the ice hockey, they'd put up the perspex and they'd come flying into it. And if you're sitting pretty close, it was scary. Yes, lots of injuries, lots of injuries. It's very cold and it smells funny. 

It was. 

It's quite terrifying and you can't see the pop as well. So all I did is stunt. 

Have you noticed that in the ice skating cause it it smells funny when you put the ice? Yes, the ice skates stink because everyone else put their foot in there, but there's also just this odd smell the whole time it's. 

Ozone, you kind of smell. Yeah, that's not a good. 

Just it's unset. Actually, don't you think? 

Yes, it is unsettling. I did a stunt where I had to wear the goalie uniform and it wasn't a brand new uniform. It was used. 

That's right. That's right. 

So it's stung? Yes, including. 

Yeah. Ohh, IVF fits. 

The box and so yes, the cod piece. So I had. 

You put someone else's. 

I had. Well, I wasn't gonna go out on the ice with our fun, so. 

Fixed over your bits. That's like touching bits. 

So the the thing was that they would fire as many pucks as they could. Over 60 seconds and it if I raised, I think it was like what was it like $10,000 for charity and all these people donated all this money? No, I well, I don't know. There was no. OH. 

I don't know and I don't know that you had any insurance that imagine if they knocked your teeth out. 

Chance. Yeah. So I put on I can't ice skate either, so I put on the full uniform. 

Probably be bad. 

And then the entire cohort of Canberra Knights players proceeded to pelt pucks at me for around a minute. 

Did it hurt? 

Yeah, I got hit by a couple of stray ones through the paddings. Yes, you're hit. It was a solid box. It was very well protected. Even in spite of its smell. It did what it was supposed. 

Did it hit you? In the box. Hitting the books like you were wearing. 

Ohh yeah. 

To do it. Was utterly terrifying. I've never been more scared in. My life actually I have, but that was one of the those moments that was very scary. 

It is a staring end. 

But yeah, there you go, Philadelphia Flyers, Ottawa Senators set a national record for all the penalty minutes cause they were just too busy fighting instead of playing the actual game. 

We'll kick it off with music news this week, the 2nd of March 2004, Britney Spears embarks on the is it Onyx? It's a colour, isn't it, Onyx? I've I've only ever read that word. I've never said it out loud so it feels uncomfortable. 

I think. Onyx. Yeah. I think it was a hip hop group as well. They had an album called. 

Backed up cup. Ohh. 

Hmm. Onyx. Yeah. 

Right. Monix, I don't think the two had anything to do with them. This is her first tour in two years to support her studio album in the Zone. The tour was originally called the in the Zone Tour, but she was sued for trademark infringement. Yeah. Obviously there was some other in the zone tour happening at some states that was trademarked. So she's banned from using the name. And then she said she felt inspired to create a show with a hotel theme, which she later mixed with the concept of an Onyx stone, thus becoming the Onyx Hotel. 

OK. 

Come see me live. You won't believe your. 

Eyes MTV presents, Britney Spears, the Onyx Hotel Tour, log on to mtv.com support dates and more information plus catch Britney live on Showtime March 28th. 

I'll see you there. 

Poo Poo Brittany in any way, shape or form, right? 

She's done. 

However, I have watched the footage from the Onyx Hotel Tour remastered in 4K. Ohhh. 

2H. 04 K is always a bad idea. 

In Miami. No, she looks fabulous. She looks amazing. She looks incredible. She always looks incredible when she's performing live, however. She says come see me live, alright. Ohh she doesn't say. Come see me sing live. She doesn't say. 

That's yes. Ohh yeah. Well, she's live. She is alive and she's on the stage. That's her. 

She's dancing and she's dancing live and it is Britney Spears. 

Unless you believe the clone conspiracies, that is her. 

Where it's like, well, I don't. I don't believe the clone conspiracy. 

On the stage. 

Because Martha Stewart sold her shares, we went bust. They we can't manufacture anymore, Britney. So sell your shares, Martha. 

Yes, she did it before they had a chance. 

No, but I'm just like. She how much of I just like, do well, I was gonna ask the question I I dare say that there is a live mic on her during the concert. 

You have a problem with lip syncing. Is what you saying? When she maybe when she interacts with the crowds. 

And there's a lot of crafty sound engineering it she ain't singing live. She can't be. No, and that sucks. 

But yes, no, no. She's gotta dance. It's just a lot of dancing. 

She's she's a very good dancer, I do think. 

Have you ever tried to dance and sing? Remember and sing? Start just doing a few little moves and trying to sing at this. It's very difficult. 

I think I think. 

I do think she I do think she has a live mic. I do think she has a live. 

There is a lot of backup happening. 

Mic, but I think I think she the live mic is set really far back in the mix, right. And the rest of it is a DAT machine. No, it she had a live band there. There was cause I could hear guitars doing things and stuff. But again, I think that there is there's a lot of people playing along with the track and so if they stop playing, you would barely notice. And that kind of sucks. But she did 25 shows on that tour. That's all. 

In that's in North America and that grossed around 19,000,000. And then she did total shows across the world. I think it was around 52 or 50. Three shows 30. 4 million I don't care. Like I knew that she lip syncs too, as if she came here. I'd pay money and I I wouldn't be disappointed. I'd be like, Oh my gosh. There she is. Amazing. 

You pay to go there. Like, look at those figures and look at that and look at how that maybe stands up. I mean, she was the biggest thing. In pop music at the time. 

And I think JC Chase opened a couple of the, yeah, couple of the acts well. 

Did he really? That was nice of us, yeah. 

She obviously knew who the real singer was. 

But so she was the biggest singing music at the time. You compare it to the money behind Taylor Swift. Like everyone's going to see Tay Tay. Everyone's going to see Tay Tay this week, I think. Is it like it's early March? I'm sure. 

Disappointed that I because I'm not. 

Or maybe it's happened. Maybe it's happened. I'm not. Yeah. 

I'm disappointed I didn't get on that bandwagon. Actually, I would have like like I don't. I think she's great, but I'm not like a Stan or anything. 

That takes a bad Megan. 

With that? Yeah. But I am kind of caught up in the excitement and now I sort. Of think. Ohh, wish I did. I wouldn't mind it going. Yeah, I think so too. And you can dress up so I even even like the other day. I saw an article going. Here's like if you want to dress in this era Taylor here's like 10 outfit choices. If you want to dress in this era. 

Think I do. 

Think her concert would be a sight to behold. I think it would be quite the spectacle. 

I like that there was some really nice sparkly outfits dress up. 

There was also. Well, she's amazing. There was also a lot of stuff in the media and from the promoter saying if you don't have a ticket, please don't show up at the venue because they're worried that a lot of people were gonna do that. So anyway, there is a movie you can watch the movie. Just watch the movie and then figure out if you like it or not of the Onyx Tour. No. Of the. Well, yes there is. I watched the Miami thing of the Onyx Tour. And there is the Tay Tay tour. 

Ohh, OK. Well, we'll just watch it. Can we dress up though? Can we both dress up in something sparkly while we watch it? Which era? Which era? Tay. Tay, are you gonna be? 

So you do Onyx, Tay, Tay double feature. 

Yeah, sure. 

I don't know. I'll make your friendship bracelet. Honestly, yeah. 

Fantastic. That's good. I like that album releases. Ah, we had an Aussie album release this time. Years ago, The Living End modern artillery. 

Right. 

He's gotta save. 

He's gonna stay. 

Great Australian band, they're very I think they're a bit underrated. 

That takes me back to the old made hot 20. You know, the show that you stuffed up and. 

I didn't stuff it up. I just played local bands and what I wanted to on it. 

Then I took it over. What you wanted? 

To play. 

And then you weren't allowed to do. That anymore. And then I got the show. 

It wasn't so. Much. It wasn't so much an auz made hot 20 it was more of a Canberra made. 

The show. 

Hot 20, yeah. 

It's good. It was fun. It was really fun and people used to fax me their some requests. 

Yeah, you could. It was like on at midnight you could do whatever you wanted to. You got. So I did. No, I I did that. I was on the AUS, made hot 20. 

Faxes. I loved getting faxes. 

At the radio station I was playing local bands on that for a good. Probably 12 months before I got caught, yeah. 

Nobody listens. I had one listener who faxed me religiously. Ohh donkey. Yeah, donkey used to fax me and I think he liked. 

Did you? 

Donkey facts to you. Actually, he faxed me as. 

Well, did he? Ohh. 

Yeah, it was the first question he asked. Where's Joe? 

So he was a fax, he was a fax floozy. No, he. What did he like? Not The Living End. Something like that. Ohh. Who was that other one? Like the. 

Yeah, obviously. 

Living end. No, it had a it was, I don't know. 

It couldn't have been Green Day. 

No, it wasn't Green Day, but it was. Something like that. Australian punk? Yeah. 

Band the porkers. 

No, I can't remember. But anyway, he used to fax his request and that was nice. It was a good show, but this is their third studio album. I think it was released in Australia the year prior and then internationally it's released this time 20 years ago. So first album to feature drummer Andy Strawn. 

Also in the states, right? Yeah. 

After Travis Dempsey left the band. And who's gonna save us the song? You played just. There released as a single it was. 

Yeah, they put that in the Michael Moore movie. Yeah, yeah. 

Yes, that's right. That's a big deal. 

It is a big deal. They also put it in the Tony Hawk soundtrack, Tony Hawk's underground too. 

I think that was a different song end of the world was in that one. 

Well, no it wasn't. Ohh OK. 

Yes, but anyway, good story. Sticking with the Australian music that was made hot 20 for life. Ah Australian number one. Ohh no. Noah's he's been bumped off the number one spot by Guy Sebastian. 

Wow, that's a shame. They, well, they you. You can tell by the sound of that they still don't really know what they're gonna do with him. Don't you reckon that's not how. 

It's no what about me? Is it? 

That sounds. 

He sounds now. 

That sounds like. 

What does it sound like? 

Peter Andre. 

No, do not say that does not. It's very. I don't know. Lies, lies. 

It's poppy. It's just that Aussie pop stuff. 

Like alcohol, free beer feels like, yeah. Yes. It's very thin, very light. Second single from his album, just as I am obviously following off the back of angels brought me here. But you know what? This song is #1 for one week and noisy. How many weeks was that? That was about. 

Sounds like things sounds like girlfriend sounds like all that stuff. Yeah. Crap. In other words, yeah. 

4-5 so suck it guy. 

Yeah. Yeah. Busy. Yeah. Wow. That's a bit right. 

I'm sorry, but noisy was right. Look, guys, sorry, I don't hate you that much, but I like nosey better. 

OK. 

And Elsie was robbed. 

Fair enough. 

In the video clip, do you remember the video clip? No guy is riding a bike through a rural landscape. 

Is he wearing a helmet because he had big? 

Hair. I don't know. Through a rural. Landscape. While couples show affection around him. 

Is the synopsis. 

That was just couples showing affection around people. 

Are getting it. On while guys riding his bike through. 

And then he's like all I need is you. Is it a song about his bike? Is he singing the song to his bike? 

The middle of it. I don't know, but everyone's getting it on around his bike. 

Does he have a seat? Anyway, you need to. You need to talk to me about what's happening in the UK, because this is this is your, this is your. 

Need to watch this. 

Oh, OK. 

Moment. So last. Well, last year we didn't wanna play our Kelly cause of reasons and we started throwing in. 

Yeah, which we then backtracked. But anyway, it's fine. 

Yeah. Ohh, still kind of stand back. Yeah, whatever. You don't know me. 

It's our show. It's our prerogative. 

Well, we played because I thought well. We're never gonna have this opportunity again. Well, I'm never gonna have this opportunity again to play Peter Andre, but I didn't realise that this week, 20 years ago. You OK? #1 is this song? 

Peter Andre, that would be great. 

I want to get close to you. 

What the bloody hell is that all about? 

Legitimately #1 on the UK charts this week. 20 years ago he was on I'm A Celebrity. Get Me Out of here. I think 2003. 

How? Why, who, what, where, when? 

Was he? 

Wow. And then apparently there's. 

Is that where he fell in love with Jordan? Was that on that show? 

Was it that show? 

Didn't he meet Jordan on a reality show? 

He met her on a reality show. Was it that show? It's one. There's a show called the Chris Moyles Show as well. And apparently Chris Moyles did a lengthy campaign to get that re released. And back in the chat. 

Must have been that show. 

So he was so hot right now, this time 20 years ago. So I was clearly an early adopter as far as Peter Andre goes. Can I just say I was in the fan club OG. Yeah. Do any of you like 2004 fans have a letter from him? No, I don't think so. 

Well, good for you, trailblazer. Have any have any of you got a photocopied letter that from? 

On Red Paper that looks like handwriting, I don't think. You do so there. 

Yeah, that could have only been sent to like 500 people, so that's. Still kind of rare. 

It's probably worth money. 

Yeah, I don't think so. Was it personalised? Did it have your name on it? Definitely not worth money. 

Yes. And so he is really hot in the UK. Yeah. And then he's got a new album, his fourth studio album, The Long Road Back. 

So he decides. 

The long road back. Where did he go? OK, yeah, yeah. 

It's a long way back to Australia. It's the UK back to Australia, not a road, but still far. 

Right. 

So he's like, well, you know, I'm really hot right now and everybody is, like campaigning for me to sing the song. So I'll Chuck it on my new album. So he chucked it on his new album. He released it, number one, number one. That's. I think that's great. I think that's. 

So I'm just going to squeeze it out. So you put. Well, that's. A hard pill to swallow, though. Amazing. So his biggest single from his first album. 

No, his biggest. Think it was give me some kind of sign, girl. 

Was it in Australia anyway? So he's in the UK, he's popular in the UK. He's released an entire album, but he's used to song from another album on that album and the song from the other album. 

Well, nobody's released it, but he's released. It can only go to #1 if he's released. It but think about the child. 

Yes, I'm saying that he's made the choice to do it or somebody's made the choice on his behalf. 

Well, I knew. 

So somebody sitting there going listen, Peter, every single other song on this second album that you've done is a piece of. 

Fourth album, she's fourth album. Thank you. 

Oh, this is on this fourth album that you've done. It's this is everything that you've done on the other three albums. So all this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna put mysterious girl on the charts cause we know that it's a. 

Full album. 

Bad choice. Good choice. 

You know, and and girls will be writing back into your fan club and you'll have to send another 500 photocopied letters out. 

No, not him. His brother. Remember his brother managed the fan club and his brother is obviously time poor and not very well organised because it took his brother like a good year to send me that letter and he even acknowledged that it was a bit slow and said sorry. Brother of Peter Lifty game. 

So you got a letter from Peter Andre's. 

On behalf of Peter. 

It's blood. Blood relative. It's the. Same thing, it's just as good. 

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. 

Alright. Do you want to read? 

The letter. Again are sure. 

No. Have you got it? Where is it? 

It's just there in the cupboard. 

No, how hard would it be is? 

OK. 

It easily accessible. Yes, it's in. The front of it really. How often did often? How often do you get it out and right? Do you do? 

This when I'm in the house. No, no, not when you're in the. 

House. Well, I'm in the house right now, so I think. You should leave it in the closet. 

OK, I'll leave it. There and we'll move. Move over to the. 

When you, you when you've got a spare moment by yourself, you can light some scented candles, run a warm bath and. 

Put me. 

Mysterious girl on and pull out my letter. 

You jump in there with you. You don't want to put on the, so you're gonna put mysterious girl on. Not gonna put on the fourth album. 

My handwritten letter. 

OK. 

It is on the 4th album, so it is the fourth album. 

Well, yes, OK. Yeah. OK. There you go. I take your. 

Point. Alright, US charts now please. 

I first of all am going to see if I'm going to go out to the shed and see if I've got any back issues of FHM with Jordan on the cover. 

Yeah, she was. 

A hottie. She had great sunglasses, I remember in. 2000 and. 

Ohh yes. 

Two, I bought some imitation Jordan sunglasses when I was in America. 

Huge sunglasses. Let's do the Billboard charts. 

What? What? 

There's not not much in the top. 

End there. I'm so glad. Last week you disclosed about slow jam stuck in your head. I thought it said a little Anita. 

Yeah, it's there again. Who's Anita? That's what. 

I was wondering. 

Well, it's just in the middle of it all. They got like, they're talking about all these soul singers, like Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross. And then there's Anita, like, somewhere in somewhere in the back catalogue. They've got this, like, vinyl from this. I don't. 

Smile and Garrison lose venture a little anisa. 

Know Swedish chick called Anita. 

So I'm glad you sang it last week and said it was Leah that makes. Much more sense. Thank you. 

Yeah. OK, good. Anyway, there's nothing much happening in the top end. Of the charts. The the, the, the, the. I think it's like the 3340, no, the. 

1-2 and three are the same. As last week. 

I was gonna say 3, two and one, but I got really. Confused. And that's because I. 

Why you counting backwards? 

Was because I'm trying to think. About where that FHM issues with John this year? 

Well, you know what's also in the shed, Peter? Andre's first two CD's are. 

Ohh, hope we keep them separate or they might have babies anyway so but there's a new song in it. So me myself and I Beyoncé #5 and then we've got like our cast slow jams usher. Yeah, but new song. And if if I'm not mistaken. 

In that cupboard. Yes, whatever. 

That would be Chingy. 

One call away by Chingy. 

Hmm. But he's not singing the chorus. There's some other dude singing the chorus. 

I'm going. 

If it was. To be with my baby. 

Yeah, he's doing some little meat meat in the background. The the guy singing there is actor Jason Weaver. Do you know who he is? What's he been in, you know. 

You are my lady. 

Actors you watch movies. 

I don't know what Jason Weaver's been in. Have you done any research? 

Who's it? What's a Jason Weaver? Can you Google Jason Weaver? He's credited on the single, though. 

OK. 

Honours actor Jason Weaver, he's credited as. 

You are my baby. 

J hyphen weave is the DJ weave. Yeah, doing the over me. 

Jay weed. 

Released as the. 

Not, you know, hope he's not doing anything over here. That's he's American actor. Best role as he's known in as Marcus Henderson on the WB sitcom Smart Guy. 

I thought you say on the Henderson kids. I was like, great, I love. 

That would be strange, and you've seen some Jacksons mini series. Ohh, he's he was in drumline that movie drumline that we were talking about there. Yeah, the JC today movie. Yeah. 

So what was this? Ohh, that JC She's aided. Just blowing his up with his love on the song, yes. 

Yeah, he hasn't been in anything great. He's probably best known. 

So it's best known as Jay Week. 

For one fall away. Yeah, it was in the Oprah Winfrey TV series booster place, the miniseries The Jacksons, American Dream. There's lots of miniseries. He provided the singing voice of Young Simba in The Lion King the animated. 

OK. 

Line ohh, that's a big deal. 

It is. It is. Yeah. And then he was in that movie drumline as well, and Lady Killers and a couple of. Yeah, not really. 

But OK, yeah, this is the third. And final single off Chingy's debut album Jackpot. It was released via the disturbing the Peace label ludicrous. That's ludicrous's label. I didn't know that Ludacris and. 

Ohh Luna. 

Chingy were friends. 

Well, chingy's friends with Snoop Dogg. 

And I was doing weights the other day and Spotify made me my playlist. Chingy was on it with Dem jeans, the one that's about how do you getting them dem jeans? How do you get in Dem jeans and? It said something like. Disturbing the peace, I. 

Was like that sounds like ludicrous. 

It probably was. 

So there you go. There's the answer. Ludicrous is the label. 

Ludacris is on Holiday Inn. 

Yes. Ohh yes you did. Ohh anyway so. 

Making me do research on Google and stuff and try and find out who Jay Weave is. And you don't even know that ludicrous on Bloody Holiday Inn. But I do because I've had to listen to this all the time in this House. 

They're already friends. They're already friends. That's right, yeah. 

You make a very valid point. 

I'm definitely going out to find that Jordan busy. 

One call away do you want? My Peter Andre letter. 

No. Yes, I do, actually. The things that I would do to that, yeah. OK. 

One call away. 

No, actually I. 

Trust you? I don't trust you with that. The song depicts a man's desire to be with the woman and the lengths he's willing to go to be with her. The lyrics suggests that the man is willing to provide emotional and physical support for the woman. 

What? What a guy. What a guy. Only one call away so's. 

What a guy. But you know. 

Pizza Hut mate. 

But what we really. Care about is the age-old question as far as Chingy is concerned. Will it nursery rhyme? 

Yes, yes. Now, if you're joining us for the first time, yeah. Apologies. Well, it's too late to apologise in advance because you've come this far. What the hell are you doing? Like, go away. Go. Stop. Go. Listen to something good. Like I don't know, conversations with Richard Fiddler or. 

It's too late. 

But like if you are joining us for the first time where there's this thing with Chingy and Chingy has has been compared to nursery rhymes. 

Well, they said with his, I think it was when he released. His first single. 

Yeah, right there. 

Right though, yes. 

Like the way you do it right? Third, that he was very he, he, he. Wrapped in a very singsong nursery rhyme kind of manner. 

Right. 

Yes. And so we've, we've. 

We've put it to the test with right thorough we put it to test with Holiday Inn. 

And we've and we've succeeded. Yeah. So right there was. Miss Polly had a Dolly holiday in. What was that? 

One that was. I'm a little tape. 

I'm a little teapot, so will one call away nursery rhyme? 

Yes, sorry. 

Into the carpet to get a port on the bone when she got there, the cupboard was bare, so the poor little dog had none. My lady, a little dog sat with his head on the mat. So hungry he wanted to cry my baby. Wagged his tail, and he barked. Looked up it straight in the eye. 

My lady, don't come, said the little dog. That ain't the way to do. If you were hungry and you wanted a bowl, not find somewhere to stick it in you, my baby. 

So all mother Hubbin closed up the cup and went out into the street. Little dark mound. If you can't get a bone, Hubbard. Bring me some. 

My lady. 

Entertainment time. Is it a massive film release? We're we're coming up to Easter this time 20 years ago and this is a huge film release and I we should have probably promoted this at the start of the show because it is a very big news story. This week, Mel Gibson directed the passion of the Christ, the passion of the Christ was released this week, 20 years ago. 

Ohh we are yes. 

The artistic portrayal of the Bible and the emphasis with a huge emphasis as extremely violent and grand. And realistic depiction of the suffering of Jesus as he's about to be crucial. Right. And it it's a, it was a sight to behold. It was. Yeah, it's great. I really enjoyed it, but it's extremely gory and it's just like Mel Gibson is a very devout Catholic. And so he's got a bit of an agenda when he's making this movie and. 

Have you? You've seen it, have you? Yeah, I haven't. Seen it. 

There was a lot of. Talk at the time about the anti Jewish sentiment, because obviously in the Catholic Church it's like, well, you know, the the story when you go through Catholicism, they talk about how. He was the king of the Jews and he was the Jews were advocating for him and then they have an opportunity to actually release him at the time with Qantas pilot and they say we want Barabbas and Pontius pilot washes his hands of the whole thing and sends him off to crucifixion anyway, even though he doesn't. 

You just took me back to year 8RE. Then that was a big that was a mad flashback. 

Do you remember in the Life of Brian? Were wise, but Wapas and there was, were we. Why? And anyway? Yeah. So very, very violent film. Very Catholic focus. 

Apparently a woman that went to see the movie in Kansas collapsed and died of a heart attack while watching the crucifixion scene. 

There is a scene in there where they they whip, whip him with the cat of nine tails and you can see the flesh being ripped off his body and he exposes like his ribs. You can see his bones. It's a it. It is pretty graphic but I. 

Glad I didn't say that. 

I mean in defence of of Mel Gibson's putting this out there, it's a pretty realistic portrayal of of what would have actually happened. It was all over the news. 

After months of controversy and debate, members of an Atlanta church could judge for themselves. 

We really believe that this movie is going to impact your life. 

But many had no idea how much Mel Gibson's two hour film, the Passion of the Christ, tells a brutal tale of the last 12 hours of the life of Jesus. It has been criticised for its portrayal of the Jews. 

The movie clearly blames the Jewish people for the death of Jesus, and I hope that Christians who see this powerful story will. Will will recognise Jesus as message, was one of love. 

But it was the near constant violence that left many in. This group drained. Was it hard for you? 

To watch it was definitely hard to watch. 

In an interview with Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, Gibson says he intended to push the audience to the edge. 

If you're going to push them to the edge, try and hold their hand a little bit, and if it's going to be horrible and ugly, try and make the violence. Try and find the beauty in it. Try and find the. Lyricism in it. 

But it pushed some over the edge. They walked out in tears. 

Would you expect to? 

Have this reaction when you heard. 

About the movie have this reaction at all. 

Our Lord die in that way for our sins. And vowed to renew their faith. 

Made me search my soul for. 

What life? Means to me and what? I can mean. To other people. 

8 million tickets have been sold in advance and early estimates are that this movie will make back its production costs of $25 million in the first five days. 

Ohh yeah, it sure did. It made $600 million worldwide, broke all records well. 

I've recruited a lot of. New Catholics, by the sounds of. 

Yeah. And they were very concerned, as you can hear about about the anti-Semitism like there's the guy saying, well, we just hope that the it's like Jesus's message of love that comes through in the end because it's like. 

Dropping them back into the fold. 

And it does really portray the Jewish people as turning their back on him. 

Was Mel Gibson the one that made the comments as well that? 

Yeah, he's he's been a bit controversial over time. He's run his mouth a little bit. Has Mel, interestingly, they've made a sequel. Yeah, the passion of the Christ 2 Judgement Day. No, they're making a sequel. They're they're they. It is rumoured that they are going to be making a sequel to the Passion of the Christ. 

No, they have not. Oh, I thought you're joking. What second from the? 

Will be all about the resurrection and all that sort of stuff. So yeah. Yeah, maybe they could do like a crossover with. 

Well, that's probably a little bit nicer. 

Ghostbusters or The Walking Dead anyway, so that it was wildly successful, wildly successful film. It is quite an extraordinary movie to watch, and it's all the language is all in Aramaic. So it's there's no English, there's they've, they've all spoken in Aramaic, which is a language that has not been used for. Thousands of years, I think. Uh, it's. It's like it's pretty much a dead language at Aramaic. And they've they've started to. Yeah, it's and Jim Caseville, who plays Jesus. I mean, I don't. 

I've had. 

It that's amazing. 

Did he look like Jesus? Did he look more like Jesus than you? 

OK. I look. Was he black? Do you know what I mean? Like, Catholics have pretty weird depictions of Jesus in all of in, in their, with their all of their iconography. Like this is a bloke who lives in the Middle East. And for years when I went to school, you'd go up to the church and see him on the stations of the cross. Crucified. And he looked like a. 

Amazing hair, amazing hair. 

Caucasian dude with long hair. 

He's quite fit to the Jesus and the cloth. He did actually like to fit. Yeah, fit. 

Yeah, great. Chad from Nickelback on the cross, you know, like like, yeah. So I well, I mean I think Jim Caseville, yeah, he probably did like it was a bit more authentic than what you would have seen traditionally in a church. So yes, I will say, but it it's a it's. A hard watch. 

I don't think I could watch it. It was. 

Is a horror movie basically. 

It was banned in Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, initially banned in Malaysia. 

Yes, they probably saw it as blasphemy as well because they do as as much as Muhammad is the number one prophet like Jesus is also a very. A. A prophet that's held in high esteem in Islam. So I think that they would. Have probably seen it as blasphemous to a degree, yes. 

I'd say so. There were protests against it in Israel. 

Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, the Jewish community, I think we're very concerned about the anti-Semitism that would come about as a result of people seeing the film. There is a lot of news stories and a lot of footage of people's reactions to it, like people coming out of the cinemas weeping. And and and being physically ill from I yeah, it was a good movie. I really enjoyed it. I did. I thought it was great. And Speaking of movies, the 76th Annual Academy Awards was held on the 29th of February, hosted by Billy Crystal. And kicked off by none other than Sean Connery. I mean, this is all about the Lord of the Rings. And here's a little montage of what took. 

Place for more than 100 years, the world has been fascinated by the movies. They are more than just an entertainment. They are the force that binds us together. The common link that touches the humanity of all of us. And that's why we love to watch the movies. And so tonight, our Academy invites the world to celebrate the magic of going to the movies. Enjoy. 

Gentlemen, start your egos. It's wonderful night for us, us. For us. Who Will Win? Yes. Here we are. The 76th Oscars and he's still gold. His hip is titanium, but he's still gold. Tonight we're being broadcast in 53 languages, and that's just for Los Angeles alone. And for the very, very first time we're being simulcast in Aramaic. And so shut off your damn cell phones. Bring out the drum and the Trump phone was Oscar. Hey y'all 70. Six. Ohh yeah, yeah. 

Thank you. 

There's a reason they say best motion picture for last. It's the sum of all the ingredients, the end of a journey that always starts with a dream. And this year those dreams were prompted by the JRR Tolkien Lord of the Rings trilogy by Patrick O'Brien's massive Aubrey Maturin novels Laurie Hildenbrandt. Tribute to a fabled racehorse, Dennis Lehane's Tautly written crime drama and in a moment when two disaffected characters meet in a foreign landscape and the Oscar goes to. It's a clean sweep. The Lord of the Rings, the return. Of the king. Fairy Emma Osborne, Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh, producer. 

This is the 11th Academy Award win tonight for the Lord of the Rings, the return of the King, tying the record for most wins with the films Titanic and Ben Hur. 

Ohh, this is just unbelievable and I'm so. Honoured, touched and relieved that the Academy and the members of the Academy that have supported us have. Have seen past the trolls and the Wizards and the hobbits and are recognising fantasy. This year's fantasies and F word that hopefully the five second delay won't do anything with. 

It's quite magical to see Steven Spielberg give the Oscar to Peter Jackson for that, and and it was a historic. To win, he he heard like Ben Hur was one of the other big films. And and I think Titanic 11 nominations and eleven wins. They got for that film. It did absolute wonders for New Zealand tourism. And the great thing about it was Peter Jackson. I mean, if you're a fan of Peter Jackson's movies, pre Lord of the Rings. So you had the. Frighteners, which was like his first foray into Hollywood stuff with Michael J. Fox. But you're looking at films like Meet the Feebles, Bad Taste, Brain Dead, which are all these B grade splatter horror gore. And and like Muppets on acid type films, like really off the wall stuff. And then he was given the opportunity to do this. And he just, like, nailed it. Like, I I love those all the rings movie so much. You've heard me gush over them before and they still stand up. They're fantastic. But it was. But it was kind of the thing that. Overshadowed everything else at the Oscars, so you had a best actor award for Sean Penn for Mystic River. Now you remember that movie fantastic film, Absolutely Fantastic Film, and Sean Penn was amazing in it. Shelley Theron won it from Monster. We talked about the film monster and Charlize in that a couple of weeks ago. 

That's the one we watched. Not. Yeah, great movie. 

Tim Robbins got best supporting actor for Mystic River, and Mystic River was the Clint Eastwood film I think was it Clint Eastwood? I feel like it was. It's just a fantastic movie. Renee Zellweger got one for Cold Mountain, so there were lots of big films that did quite well. But because the Lord of the Rings had 11 nominations. 

Think so? 

And 111 Academy Awards, and justifiably so, too, because it was just so fantastic it that was kind of the Lord of the Rings Oscars. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. 

Yes, pretty much. Big TV news this time 20 years ago, the 4th of March 2004. Pimp my ride debuts. 

Three, when we first got your car, it was all jacked up. Old family trucks and style. Yeah, we hooked it up with this wonderful kind hood with conditions on it. Check this. Out hook you up with these graphics? What are these? 

It's a heart rate and EKG rhythm. 

Is this a healthy? 

Heartbeat no. 

You hear a little bit of exhibit in the background there, so this was a big, big show. The time everyone. 

Produced by MTV, hosted by X to the Z, ran for six seasons on MTV through to 2007 and picks Young, generally young vehicle owners with a crap. 

Everyone wants this. 

And show some convincing MTV that their car needs to be pimped ex shows up at their house, takes a look at the car, makes jokes about the car. That was my favourite bit when he came out and he looked at the car and he just he just picked himself at the cars. 

Went through the powers, yeah. He was definitely the personality that held the whole thing together. He was great. 

And then he'd knock on the door and they'd lose. Basically, there are a lot of girls that would jump on him and wrap their legs around him. That's the the the X. Effect but. 

What a job. 

He loved it. He had a great time, and so then he'd he'd look at the car with the car owner. They'd talk through all the dramas. 

And then this. 

Is the bit I never understood most of the time the cars. I wouldn't say they were roadworthy, but he then had to drive the car to West Coast. Customs and he was driving the car on the road. 

Yes. Well, for the cameras, I do think in hindsight and if you do a little bit of digging, I don't know that a lot of the rides that were pimped on pimp my ride were all that legit. 

How he was. Never in an accident or the car breaking down. Well, I was worried for exhibit safety. A lot of the time. 

Ohh me too. Me too yeah. 

Because I do like it. And I loved the show, and it was one it was really a flagship show on MTV because when we had Foxtel, they would play it over and over and we saw most episodes and every episode at least five times. 

It was very fun. It was great fun. Yeah, I think we've seen every season, every episode. Yeah, for sure. 

Because it was always good. So each car then is a custom pimp and it's tailored to the personality or. Interests or hobbies or job of the person who owns the car. What did we have? There was one that had a a badminton net installed in the back. There was the surfer. I watched that one again. 

Yes, yes. 

Recently, because our son loves it. 

Do you know what there was one? There was one that for a nurse there was like a panel van or something. Or a station waggon actually. And they put a CAT scan machine in the. 

Oh my gosh. 

There was the surfer. Cause we we just watched it recently cause. The son knows the guy will not knows, but is familiar with the guy from West Coast customs and I was telling him about this. Show called Pimp my rides. 

Yeah, they're not mates. He's just he. He's a he's a car enthusiast, so he I don't know how our son with us, no interest in cars whatsoever became a car enthusiast. The Internet is a wonderful thing. Yes, he is. 

He just knows he knows of it, knows of him. He's talking moon. He's the moon, isn't it so? And we also got sprinkles for our salad that was called Pimp My salad and I started going pimp my salad and I had to explain to him that it was show pimp my ride I. 

It's why you seeing that stupid song. 

Was like, oh, and it was actually. You might like this cause you like cars. 

Let's watch it. 

And then we turn it on. It's like, oh, that's so and so from West Coast customs. So anyway, we watched the one recently with the surfer guy who got her clothes. Dryer in the back of his Volkswagen. And they put a lot of PlayStation consoles in the cars. Lot of great sound systems. 

Yeah. And like the little the TV screens, like the TV screens were like a a big status symbol back then. Yeah, now they're a dime a dozen. You get them for, like, 20 bucks? Yeah. 

Ohh, and they were tiny, weren't they? They were so small. Yeah, I think there's an aquarium in one with fish and no. 

Yeah, well, that's never gonna end well. You'd know that your father tried to transport a fish tank in a car with water in it, so thank goodness. 

We forgot. Well, there was no fish in there, but he left the water in there. And then my brother and sister are like going. 

The little boss. 

To school. 

Like Dad, our uniforms are wet. What's going on? 

What? What? 

I'm about to pimp your ride. 

It's like ohh the fish tank fish tank, yeah. Still got water in it. Whoops, that's OK. And usually usually the changes are cosmetic. Sometimes they do a bit of mechanical work. There were a couple of cars where they just went. Hmm, can't do it. We'll just give you a new car because there was one car and it was 2. 

And we'll just do a different path. 

Cars. It was 2 together. That's amazing. 

They've been joined together. It's like something out of Malcolm. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, something something different at the front compared to what was at. 

The back, yes. Yeah. But it like you say. 

I dated a chick like that once. 

Anyway, like you say, all is not as it seems, and a lot of people that participated in the show called it out later on saying that it was exaggerated. They'd come over and they'd actually make the car worse than what it was, or they'd put rubbish in the car and make it look feral. 

Well, of course it's it's all for the cameras. 

Then pull off the the bumper bar. 

Do you mean to tell me that reality TV isn't quite real? 

I'm disappointed. I'm really disappointed by this news. 

Yeah. Well, the other thing was remember when they revisited some of the the makeovers that they done on the cars and and like you say that like, you know it might have been. Located but some of the kids that own the cars completely wrecked the cars again as soon as they are fixed, so a little bit of column, a little bit of column. 

Yes, yes. 

B. Yeah. And apparently while they're pimping the car cause it looks like when you watch the show, it looks like it's done in a matter of days. Apparently it took something like six or seven months and. The person was without was, without the car for the whole time or without a car, and then apparently there was a lot of backlash on social media and it was all aimed at exhibit, who turned around and. 

Per car. Ohh dear. Well, they give him a. Rental or something? No. Surely there it is well. 

I'm just the host. 

He didn't even exhibit, did not even know it was a thing, and he's spoken about it. 

Recently I don't know it was gonna be a thing. It's like, yo, man, they want me to do what? Ohh. They gonna play my on the TV? Yo, when was the moment you realised that it was? That global when soccer moms that don't give a **** about exhibit the rapper coming up to me and wherever I am talking about pimp my ride or talk telling me about their husband and their wealth and car that he had since the 60s and. He's like which you never see me fix on the. Show I'm gonna fix on the show. 

Yeah, he doesn't fix it on the show. Doesn't do any of that. To the Z. That's right. Gosh, yeah. 

Don't you know anything, people that's funny? 

Have you not heard the song? *****, please. That's who he is, yeah. 

That's how we should have responded to. 

The soccer moms, which plans. 

Ohh, don't you know you know all kinds of trouble for that? 

Yeah, that also Viacom, who owned the franchise, threatened legal action against a number of businesses in 2006. Over the use of the phrase pimp my insert thing here, pimp my salad well pimp. My salad is still going and it's not 2006, so obviously they're OK. 

Ohh, like salad print my. That just sounds weird though, cause it's like when I hear pimp myself, it's like hey Brother man, do you wanna have sex with my? 

Salad we're about to pimp your salad. 

20 bucks. 

And I'm expecting a fish tank. 

20 bucks. You could do all kinds of things with that salad. You can put it all over your body. 

If my shoulder is. 

Good, but it gets stuck in my teeth. Yeah, so, yeah, they sued a number of businesses, but then they found out that they weren't entitled to actually sue, cause you couldn't trademark pimp my, but pimp my snack actually ended up turning their name into pimp that snack so that they wouldn't get sued. 

Is that right? Who knew? 

True story. 

Real quick one on video games. Let's talk about the winner of the BAFTA Game Awards that have been announced and you know what won this and this was such a great game at the time speaking and it's kind of in the vein of Pimp my ride and all of that kind of cultural stuff that was happening at the time, Grand Theft Auto, Vice City, just you talk about Lord of the Rings doing well at the Oscars. Grand Theft Auto Vice City was the game five awards at the BAFTA Game Awards for Best Game and Everything Else that went along with it, and I just. I just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge Grand Theft Auto because. 

And the hexagons in the strip club. 

Polygons, not hexagons. Hexagons do nothing for me but polygons. 

Ah Polygon. Sorry, wrong. Wrong gong. What about a heptagon? 

Let me tell you. That's I feel like I'd have to go and get some medication to get. Look, I went to the strip club to. See some polygons. 

And I caught a heptagon. 

And I caught a heptagon. Now I've got heptagon C exactly something needs to happen here and I'm not exactly sure what it is. Maybe I need a strong dose of sotoa. I'm not sure. Anyway, so Grand Theft Auto just did exceptionally well. Vice city. And it's just it's we're waiting for another Grand Theft Auto game like. 

Get out my protractor help me out. 

Grand Theft Auto. 

So has there been one since this one? 

Yeah, there's been like a couple, but Grand Theft Auto 5 has been the the latest Grand Theft Auto. 

There's been a few that. 

Been out for like 6. Maybe seven years. And it's still one of the top ranking games on the video game charts. That's just how enduring it is. And one of the things that I loved about Vice City is a I mean, you could go and do story missions, but you could do whatever you want it. You could just drive around the city and do whatever you wanted. And the thing that augmented because you think, well, that sounds really boring. But I would spend. 

It does. 

So much time. Them driving around the city, the voice acting in this game is second to none, and the fact that you could while you're in the car, change the radio stations, the radio stations that in it in and of itself is just. 

Ohh the radio stations. What was playing on Vice City in 2004? 

Just it's just the level of detail that they went to. Now here's. And there's there were so many. I think you had. I don't know. I feel like you had over 10 radio stations to choose from, which is better. What is in our cars here in Canberra? Right. OK did. 

You have a Casey Kasem station. 

Yes, you did. Anyway, here's an example like the voice acting and the attention to detail like you tell this is happening on a game console, and this isn't even a core part of the game. This is just window dressing for the game. This is just something that you can do. 

You probably. 

While you're driving around playing the game. 

If you can't wear a spandex jumpsuit, what can you do? This is the rock. 

I wanna rock. 

The generation that's bearing the weight of the world on its shoulders. Wave 103. 

If nobody understands you, we do Slash FM music for the ME generation. 

More mood swings than. Your pregnant wife in motion 98.3. 

Hello I am Fernando Martinez and this is emotion. When I first come to Vice City, I feel all lonely. A man on the outside, a foreigner. Then I say Fernando, you like to talk a lot. So I get a well paid job on the radio and begin to make my name as a successful DJ. Now I'm not so lonely, but I never forget my roots. I never forget. And so I always have a soft spot. For foreigner, I've been waiting his next. 

I've been looking too hard. 

You're not amazing. 

That's some really good imaging that crosses big buff. 

It's been pretty great production you. That's better than the that you hear. 

Here's an idea. You know how you've got satellite radio? Why doesn't someone do a Grand Theft Auto radio station? 

Well and and keeps feeding it content so well. Yeah. OK, so you can you can find you can. 

Like for real, for real. I'd listen to that. I'd listen to that. Maybe. Equal with Woolworths, right? 

There's a I I don't know how many radio stations there is. I I wanna say 10 that there's probably a little bit more or less, but each of those radio stations has a playlist that runs for an hour on a loop with promos and imaging and all of and adds and all of that stuff through it. And you can find them on YouTube. Yeah, it is phenomenal. 

Did you listen to all of? 

And I'm sitting there. Just going. Yep, I'm listening to that around the house. I've got it on my iPod. I'm like, going for, like, you know, walks at lunchtime. And I'm listening to Grand Theft Auto radio on my iPod cause it's. Just a it's taking me back and it's nostalgic and great, but also the imagery and the voice acting and everything is funny and hilarious. 

OK. That sounds like legit radio imaging voiceover, yeah. 

It's great. The only problem is is that halfway through, I'll just be walking down the street and I'll grab a baseball bat and I'll club somebody in the head and steal all their money and then take their car and end up in a car chase with 50 cops in a SWAT team. Ohh, video games and all of this other stuff and pimping my right as if we had time to read books. Here's some books that. We didn't read. It's been a. 

While between books. 

For a book we didn't read, I should say. 

And the da Vinci Codes been like #1 for. 

We did a nonfiction. That that baseball dude? Yeah. You've recoiled. You physically recoiled from that. 

I didn't like the baseball dude. 

What you reading for anyway? OK. 

I had a problem with him. The New York Times bestseller actually, I think this one was number one last week, but we had too many things to talk about last week. So I put it this week because. 

Number one to talk about this week too. 

I probably should. Have put in last week and see you in hindsight. 

I reckon you should have that was poor form on your behalf but. Anyway, what is it? 

OK, well, I misjudged the last Speaking of misjudging the last. 

Happens to me all the time. Miss by that much, in fact, it's. 

A shame the last. Cura by John Grisham. 

Was a good try. 

Yeah, you did. Well, yeah. Participation award. The last year of John Grisham. Are you gonna give the synopsis or am I gonna give who's who's? 

Ohh sure I'll do it. Yeah, I'll do it. You ready? 

Synopsis thing. OK, go. 

In 1971 of Mississippi's more colourful weekly newspapers. The Ford Country Times went bankrupt to the surprise and dismay of many, ownership was assumed by a 23 year old college dropout named Willie Trainer. The future of the paper looked grim until a young mother was brutally raped and murdered by a member of the notorious pageant family. Those pesky pageants? Willie Trainer reported all the gruesome details and his newspaper began to prosper. Wow. It's megrim the murderer, Danny Padgett was tried before a packed courthouse in Clanton, Mississippi. The trial came to a startling and dramatic end when the defendant threatened revenge against the jurors if they convicted him. Nevertheless, they found him guilty and he was sentenced to life in prison. But in Mississippi in 1970, life didn't necessarily mean life, and nine years later, Danny Padgett managed to get himself paroled. He returned to Fort County, and the retribution began. Wow. Yeah. Wow. There's a lot going on there. 

And it goes back to get those pesky jurors. 

Is that what he does is like a serial killer thing. Like you reckon? Like. Well, I only know the synopsis, but. Well, no, I didn't either. But I'm. I'm assuming from the synopsis that Danny Padgett then goes and picks off the jurors 1 by 1. 

I don't. I didn't read it. 

No, it really is. 

Sounds like it it was read by Curtis and read by Curtis. Is his name read by Curtis OnStar. 

What did he say? Ohh right. 

Apparently Mr Grisham is allowed to publish anything he wants, including this piece of garbage. Ludicrous, boring and a waste of time. I only finished it because my trash book club selected Grisham as its trash author for the next meeting. 

A trash book club. So you've got a book club and. 

So he's in a book club that reads trash. So the idea of the book club is to. 

Trash like. 

That seems like a massive waste of time. 

Well, a regular book club is a waste of time, really. So why would you join? A fresh book club. 

I don't I I certainly. Look, book clubs for me. I'm just like I don't want to read what anyone else tells me to. I'd like to come to a book of my own. 

It's hard, there's too many. There's too many opinions. It's difficult and you've got to set. Period. I don't like being on the clock.