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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. Yeah. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
Week of seven March 2000.
20 the rest is history.
You know what? I'm very forgetful 20. Hello there. Stop trying to make fetch happen.
When we're waiting for.
This is harder than I thought it would be.
My fellow Americans, let's roll.
Look.
Fully disclosure, it's definitely gonna be harder than what I thought it would be this week. The T -, 20, the podcast where we rewind back to this week in history, 20 years ago. We'll get to that in a second. You are with your host, Joe and Mel. Hello.
Mel. Hi, everyone. Rewinding to 2004 seven to 13 March.
That is like anora.
There was a woman here and there, two others. All of them died.
Ohh that's a positive start to the show, isn't?
It unfortunately a terrorist incident in Madrid, Spain this time 20 years ago.
Yeah. If you thought that things were settling down after September 11, you were wrong. This was a very. Three Big terror attack that happened and it did shock the world.
Love them or loathe them, Westlife are a pop phenomenon. Chart toppers and record Breakers for 30 million sales.
Yes, Westlife in the news. Ohh.
Also shocks the world with a very, very big announcement. Lots of people were Devo.
I could. It must have been a slow Newsday in some parts of the world. I don't know how you could have that. And then Westlife, I guess. It obviously happened later in the week.
Everybody in the club.
And everybody was in the club getting tipsy.
No, everybody is in fact, getting to see teenage drinking is very bad. We we love to stomp in a clap in a song. Didn't.
Ohh sorry everybody. I got my pronunciation wrong. Yes, but it was a big deal back in the 2000s. We were so naughty back. Then, weren't we? A stomp and a clamp and a bit of a binge drink and all of those things. I feel like the youth of today are.
We.
Much more sensible.
You're missing out.
You're right, although I've become a lot more sensible in my older age as well, and I enjoy I well. I like to take risks. Still, I like to take so I and and the reason why I was saying this could be harder than I thought it would be. This, this, this evening, this morning, this afternoon, whatever time you're listening to this *** **** show is because.
Have you?
I took a bit of a risk in the kitchen, so I in my older years have really embraced cooking. I love it. I really enjoy cooking and I.
Hmm.
Generally, barbecuing and smoking you're usually an outside cook, not so much inside.
I do but I.
I don't mind coming into the kitchen for new things and I we've got a wok that we've never seasoned properly and I thought, well, I'll have a. Go at some Chinese food.
We got that for mushroom week. Do you remember that mushroom?
Years ago, years ago.
Week when we worked at the radio station. And we got a bag of mushrooms in a wok. I think that was the best thing we ever got from the.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Radio station. To be honest, it's a quality.
I agree, and it's it's a great it stood the test of time. Well, we've never seasoned it properly. So I learned about well. I learned about how to. No, no, no, no, no. You put oil on it. You let it get really hot and then the oil basically has a chemical reaction that forms a film. So it effectively creates a non stick surface. And I've done it with a cast iron pan and you do.
What? They're good mushrooms too. I didn't know you had to season. It you put salt on it. Ohh.
The same thing with the wok.
Pocket, right?
And so. We've we bought some meat earlier in the week, very cheap. It was like Chuck's steak, and I thought I'll try it on the barbecue. And it was like eating shoes and so.
I.
Thought well, I wonder how I can change this and then all of a sudden the algorithm the algorithm on on a social media platform. You know, this is where I should have completely stopped and quit.
Was a bit bookish, yes. Smile down on.
While I was ahead because the tutorial.
Yes.
That taught me this thing I got from tick. And I'm telling you right now, especially if you're about 47 years old, you can't learn anything from TikTok. So it was the technique of velveting beef, which is something that they do in Chinese restaurants. Apparently the world over where you can take some really crappy meat, some really tough old boot meat.
Hmm.
And you can put some bicarb soda on it and let it sit for a little while and it'll break down some of the connective tissue in it. The bicarb soda, and it'll cause a bit of a reaction.
What could go wrong?
And then and then exactly what could possibly go? Wrong. Now they the problem with the TikTok videos. They obviously don't have a a a big window of time.
What are they, 15 seconds or something, aren't they?
No, Tik, toks are heaps longer than that, but this one was a particularly short one, so it must be an older TikTok and he's a Chinese guy and he's like this is how we do it. This is how we turn beef into wagu. It's got really fast cuts and he's like OK guys, I'm gonna show you how to do this. And he's like, then you take this and you take that, you put the bike club soda on and then you put some water in there and you let it soak and then you Add all these different spices. Wonderful. But it didn't have any quantities. And I'm like, oh, well, that looks like a fair whack of bicarb soda. And so I put a a lot of bicarb soda on the beef, and then I put it in that fridge.
Hmm it did.
And went through the entire process and cooked it.
And it's.
Smell it smelled good from the other room. Well, you're cooking, getting a bit hungry.
Smell OK and then and then tasted it and it was completely inedible. And I've never done that before. I've never cooked something that I have just gone. That is the most revolting substance on the face of.
The earth. You know what it did? It took me back to early 2000s, actually, to back in the day when my teeth.
Yeah.
So looking a little bit shabby, a little. Bit yellow and I used to put. A bicarb soda. Paste on my teeth to yes and you leave it on there for I don't know, 10 minutes. And then afterwards you'd be like.
Whiten them. Well and remember.
It's like this chalky, salty, odd texture.
Yeah, well, it's got lots of, it's got. It's sodium bicarbonate, so it the salt levels are really high, it's.
But. Also Chalky and it's.
I put enough bicarb soda on that to either explode our stomachs or give us a heart attack. So my memories of by cup. So it was you mix it with vinegar and clean your drain with it and and so I I took a bite and then I had a sip of beer and then this crazy fizzy reaction occurred. Yes. And then.
Fizzy. Fantastic. Fantastic. Oh. When a chemical reaction in your.
Guts.
And then and then followed by some excruciating gas pain. Which was just dreadful and the fact that it was, I've never thrown a meal that I've cooked in the garbage and and I did. And I was just so embarrassed and apologetic. And now I'm sharing it with everyone. It's great. But the other thing that I did in hindsight was research how much bicarb soda you should ingest in a day. And it's about probably half a teaspoon.
I think that's the.
First, yeah.
Ah, what is this?
And and I reckon I put a cup.
OK, I think we're. In trouble?
But the the.
Worst part of it is you don't like to fail so straight away you're planning round two. You're going. No, I've gotta do this again. I've gotta. Figure it out. Yes, too soon. It's like. When your teen drinking is very bad and you throw up the cheap vodka or tequila and then someone mentions that the next day, you're like not. No, it's too soon. You're not trying it for at.
Yeah. So you can do.
Least six months.
So from what I hear, it is only about a teaspoon of bicarb soda per pound or kilo of meat, and you're supposed to rinse it and dry it off before you cook it. I left it all on the.
Fantastic.
Hmm.
Oh, you just cook. It in.
Yeah. Yeah. And needless, you know, a season, the walk it's it's now spotlessly clean. There's nothing on the walk and also.
And it's very shiny. It's teeth are very shiny.
Yeah, yeah. And also, I'm clean as a drain as well.
How my teeth looking?
The.
They're actually luminous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't taste anything. And I think I've burnt a hole in my colon, but everything.
Sewing in the.
'S going great. If you hear a fizz and a pop and then just silence pretty much, that's the end of t -, 20 forever. But we're up to the Hatch match and dispatch clue right now. Celebrity, that is having a birthday and had a birthday this time 20 years ago. Hopefully we'll have some more birthdays around this week. That said, this said this, sung this.
Yes.
No. It's a friend of me right now.
That's is that like a demo. You love that voice. That's a very low fire recording. Is it like a bootleg or a demo or what?
Love that voice. Hmm.
Is it maybe?
The TikTok or an Instagram.
Is this is this someone who was a big star at this time or have they have they kind of had their heyday?
This was a resurgence, I believe this time 20 years ago, very big in the in the mid to late 80s they had a big comeback.
A resurgence.
Sorry.
Speaking of Resurgence, I just have to take.
You bet to.
A break before.
Have a big comeback as well. Fantastic.
Ohh boy.
Half a teaspoon. I'm so sorry. Let's do.
Do you always go well, Linda?
Yeah, it really. I don't do things by half, especially teaspoons. Let's do the news. The news, positive story, I think kicking off on the 8th of March when a new constitution, it was an interim constitution is signed by Iraq's governing Council after the invasion and occupation by American LED forces.
This is a significant. Milestone in the transition following the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime back in 2000. Three, and it was drafted through a process that involved various Iraqi political factions, so they had lots of input. They also had input. From the United States.
Ohh, they had lots of input. From the United States.
Yes, there's lots of track changes, many comments, many acts directed to various people also had some other international stakeholders weighing in as well.
Yeah. Yeah, as per my last email, the Constitution aimed to establish a framework for governance that would be more inclusive and democratic than the previous race. Dean, so I mean that that's subjective. I think there's a lot of people that criticised that it wasn't inclusive enough, but it it enshrined principles such as the rule of law, separation of powers and very importantly, protection of human rights, which is a little bit of a grey area, especially with the United States and the way they sort of were treating. Suspected terrorists and things like that at the time, it also sought to address the country's diverse ethnic and religious. Picked up by recognising the rights of Kurds who had been persecuted against immensely, remember there were lots of Kurdish refugees as a result of Saddam's regime, Sunni Arabs, Shia Arabs and minorities.
Yeah.
There was some. Controversy, as you alluded to during the drafting and adoption, there were debates and disagreements. Among different factions over various issues, including the role of Islam in the state, the distribution of power between the central government and the regional authority. And the B the distribution of. Iraq's oil wealth.
Yes, but Colin Powell was very excited about it and despite all the challenges, the Constitution was approved by a national referendum in the future in October 2005, with the support of the majority of the voters in Iraq. And that laid a lot of groundwork for a new democratic. Government the election of transitional government, subsequent parliamentary elections and all that sort of stuff. But amidst all the criticism Colin Powell was gushing.
Tell me, was it a PowerPoint? Did he pull out another PowerPoint?
No, he pulled out what I would like into a local commercial television hard sell at, you know, I'm thinking like a carpet run out or something. You know, they're closing down sales at the carpet factories like.
No.
Oh.
Yeah. Yes.
Read what it says about the rights of all Iraqis, the rights of women. Read what it says. About a free judiciary, read what it says about the military firmly being under the control of the civilian authority. Read what it says about arms not being allowed within the society except under the control of civilian authorities. Read what it says about democracy rights. Liberty. And what the new Iraq will look like?
So he's very excited. Now if you put like a banjo soundtrack behind that, he's, like, read what it says 995, everything's gotta go. Bring your truck, bring your trailer. Read what it says. It's a run out sale on democracy or constitutions or whatever you wanna call it. Hell, I'd even sell my wife. That's how good the prices are down here at Collins cash and carry.
Read what it says.
I'm there. I'm shopping. Since the adoption, the Constitution has been subject to amendments and interpretations, it's also reflected the ongoing political developments and changes in Iraq still remains a a foundational document in shaping the political landscape and structure.
And what it says.
Read what it says. That's enough excitement. We need to read what it says on the 11th of March. This was a massive tragedy. And just a I mean, you know, if the purpose of terrorism is to strike fear into the hearts of people, it certainly was successful on this day on the 11th of March when terrorists exploded simultaneous bombs on Madrid's rail network, rippling through a commuter train and rocking three stations, killing nearly 200 people. This was. A very well coordinated attack that targeted a whole bunch of commuter trains during rush hour. They couldn't have timed it more perfectly if they tried. It was extremely well executed. And it happened three days before Spain's general elections, which resulted in, as I said before, what it was actually one of the deadliest terror attacks in Europe's history.
Hmm. It took place. It was like you said, coordinated. It happened at multiple locations along the commuter rail network, and the devices were thought to have been hidden inside backpacks. Police investigated reports afterwards of three people in ski masks who apparently getting on and off the trains several times between. 7:00 and 7:10. AM and a rented van was found parked outside one of the stations, Alcala de Henares, and inside the van was detonators, audio tapes and cell phones. The bombs caused devastating explosions, widespread destruction and the timing, obviously because it's during rush hour. Because it was coordinated happening in multiple low. Patients there was a lot of casualties. There was a lot of chaos. I think nearly 200 people were killed. I think it was 193 more than two thousand others were injured.
Yeah. Yeah. So Spain obviously went into us everyone around the world was in shock from this and there was lots of condemnation. There was lots of as usual. I mean, they roll out the usual stuff, the calls for action against terrorism. We need to bring these people to justice, yeah. Yadda yadda, so suspicion falls on the Basque separatist group ETA, which is used cardita as kazuna, which had a history of violence throughout Spain. However, they started to find more evidence suggesting the involvement of Islamist extremists with links to al Qaeda, and this is the sleeper cell. Type thing and people in Europe were really freaking out about this. And I think the geography is something that we here in Australia probably don't get unless you've travelled over there and like I haven't, but you've been to Europe, you.
Know just how close all the different countries are and how connected.
Right you can. Yeah.
Through things like the rail network.
Yeah. So they can move around a lot and hide in plain sight and so well, they did find that they were Moroccan people living in Spain who had ties to jihadist networks.
Yeah.
Umm.
Senora.
There was a woman here and there, two others. All of them died and I ended up in. That lady's. Seat. It's a lottery.
Materia.
Gay in my life there is a before and an after that day.
Wait.
10 bombs on 4 commuter trains killed 191 people and injured 1800 more. 18 people were later convicted, many of them Moroccans living in Spain. The bombings left a lasting legacy both for Spain and for Europe as a whole. The Madrid train bombings were a terrifying signal that the al Qaeda threat had not in fact, been extinguished in Afghanistan and worse than a new threat now came from within from so-called homegrown cells, inspired if not formally directed by Al Qaeda. Europe now had an enemy, too. That could exist invisibly just about any. Then.
Yeah. So that was from Al Jazeera that report. And because this was in the lead up to the elections, I think it really fell in favour of the more conservative parties because that's what you.
Kind of. Reckon kind of because I think the Conservative Party who was ruling at the time initially attributed it to. ETA. The ETA group, which which was seen.
Ohh so because they got it wrong.
As I guess advantageous to their electoral prospects.
Right. So they actually dropped the ball.
So one evidence of Islamist involvement emerged. The sentiment of the public shifted. And then there was a lot of criticism of the way that the government handled the situation.
Right. So they actually lost power as a result of this?
I think so. I think they lost to the Socialist Party. In the end, the elections were, yeah, a couple of days later, weren't they the.
Ah, yes, yeah.
14th of March.
Yeah. And you could imagine just the the vibe across Europe. The time increased security, I mean all of the things that you can think of that happened at September 11 were kind of repeating themselves around this time. Maybe the response was a bit more measured because obviously we've been through it a couple of times as as a world, I guess as a civilization, but just a horrible three trains. All during rush hour at the same time, 200 people dead. Alright, let's change pace. Let's get into something more cheerful.
All right. We'll start with the top five in the US this week, 20 years. Ago.
What?
Everybody.
So. The Avengers.
Wood, wood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have we. It's ushers number one with. Yeah. Did we. I know we had a conversation.
Haven't reflected on the Super Bowl? Yes, sadly.
No. So we had a conversation a while ago and I think it was you who called. It out.
I predicted Alicia Keys because she is managed by that.
Yeah.
Was it Jay-Z entertainment thing called who he looks after the Super Bowl? It's his entertainment company anyway. He represents Alicia Keys and I I guessed that they'd do that song the my Boo, whatever it was, and so excited by Luda, I thought that I thought that was going to be.
I don't know. Uncle told me to. Process. Yes. Yeah, of course. Ohh. Ludicrous. Stole the show in his big boots. Yeah.
I thought that was gonna be obvious. So then I thought, well, maybe they won't. But I was just.
Yeah.
I was just overjoyed, and the meme that came out afterwards saying apologies for everyone's wife when Ludacris came out saying no, I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry at all.
Yeah.
Yeah, I I was.
It's time for for Luda. To have a comeback, I think.
I was hoping you'd inspire you, but but I do. You remember you? I don't think you recall the the biggest call that you made on the day was. And it's it's looking at 20 years ago. So now compared to then and you said to me, well, how come it's OK for usher to get his **** out at the Super Bowl?
Hmm.
Ohh.
Jacks.
Jackson well, this is very true. Why? Well, usher has this thing where he always rips his singlet off. Yeah, it's. But he was. He was a little bit more reserved. He just pulled it off over.
Yes. Yeah.
His. Head. He didn't rip it off this time, so I don't know what's going on there. Maybe was a little weak from all that dancing, but it was good it.
Yeah.
Was a good show. Yes, I was very impressed. Yeah. Still number one on the US charts, #2 Chingy one call away slow jams with a little Anita.
Yep.
Anita, it sounds like Anita, I swear a little.
A litre. Not a metre. Who's a?
Metre, I don't know who Anita is and I feel like there's no Anita that they would know. No, that they'd listen to. I don't recall of any. Any Anita there was sanita.
And then no. Maybe like some Swedish pop Anita.
There was a Sunita. She's on shabop shabop 1988.
Yes. Yes, not her. No, it's she's more of a Latino.
But none, little Samuel, Sir.
Yeah, there was a Leah. A Little Aliyah will really set this party off, right?
Hmm.
Well, it sounds like a leisure they should pronounce. The 80s better.
Because that's what I'm thinking when I'm going for what am I gonna do to set this party off? Right. I've got all these people in my house, all these people in my house. I've got some jazz and I've set out a little party. Susan, with some Jats and some dips. Yeah. You know, there's no the, you know, the Tupperware party. Susan doesn't spin.
A little Anita, I just need a little Anita. If. These are short. A party, Susan, not a Lazy Susan. So is that? Like a drunk, Lazy Susan.
No, it's just the Tupperware thing and it's got the the dip in the. Cool. And then you can put some cabanossi in one side.
Is that called a party, Susan, and you can put a lid on it and a handle on Harriet. That's a party, Susan. It. Well, then it's not a party, Susan. No, I just don't think so.
I don't know. I think, well, that's what my nan. That's what my nanny used to call it. And she it's probably not at the correct terminology, but but I'm carrying the torch.
That sounds like a really good time. You've got your parties. You got a party, Susan, and you've got.
Yeah, well.
A little Anita. It's all your needs.
Well, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking I'm gonna go get my party. Susan, couple of jatts crackers. Some dip in the middle and some cabanossi to really set this party off. Right.
You know, record was the cabanossi and that. Yeah, you'd cut it up and you and the little round. Yeah. And you put it on the ****. Yeah, maybe with a bit.
Yeah, yeah.
Of cheese.
That is the thing that would go first. The cabin healthy. I mean cabanossi.
Kevin Ossie, I know. And then be repeating on you all night.
Cube of those bigger cheese, the bigger cheese cubes.
Paint on your legs and bicarb soda.
Back, back in the day, back in the that's like 80s. Yeah, yeah.
Party, Susan. Thank you. I've never heard of that.
And if you really want to set the party off right at the end, no. After dinner mints.
Ohh no, that's only for the rich.
People black box with the little. Paper each one came in a paper envelope.
We, well, we would never like, we would never like to have it. But like my, my rich auntie would always have them. I loved going to her house. Cause she'd have patte and she had a fireplace.
Yeah. Wow. Patte in a fireplace has really set this party up that.
And then and she had test Test match cricket. You know that game with the cricket, the Test match? Yeah, that was really expensive. And then we'd get. We'd get an after dinner, mint and I.
Test match. Yeah, that'll really set the party off, right? After dinner.
Was like is this? What it's like to be rich.
Came in that racy black box and then and then little flimsy like paper envelopes.
Yeah.
Per after dinner. Mint. Hmm.
Was a bit sensual, wasn't it? Never thought of it like.
That.
Put your keys in the bowl.
After dinner means have an after dinner mint before we retire to the.
Geez.
Wow. Yeah, that took a turn. The way you move in at #4 and we have a new entry in the top five position.
What are we up to? Ohh, the way you move, yes. Uh-huh.
Everybody. Everybody's gonna get tips.
I have two points to make. Can I please make some?
Well, fire away.
Points.
I've been doing workouts with Spotify and Spotify has made me a old it's called old school workouts playlist, so it's really only early 2000s. I don't think early 2000s is old school. Start with this songs on there, but I never knew. I thought that was the song everybody in this club getting tipsy.
Right. Uh.
Yeah. Do you know what it really is? Everybody in this getting tipsy.
Ohh so they replayed it with everybody in the club with, yeah.
Did you know that I'm? And I'm lifting weights and only dropped it on my foot. I was so surprised I was. Well, not just not because it was the word. It's just not what I was used to hearing and it just felt.
As I said. Because you've always heard everybody in the club getting.
Felt really out of place and point #2. How good is my drink? Holder speaking. Everybody getting tipsy.
Tips and. Ohh yes. Well, that's big so.
I accidentally knocked my beer over one night.
Yeah, on the, on the panel.
In here it didn't go on the panel. Luckily it went on the went on the floor. So I was really worried that I'd have a mishap again. So for my Secret Santa, I requested a beverage holder that clips onto the table. It's fantastic.
When Mr Panel it went under the panel and on the floor. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Something you might find in the innovations catalogue, you know, next to a imitation party, Susan.
Really happy. Thank you. Thank you Secret Santa. And a meerkat station.
Yeah, tougher way. I should do them. Tupperware. I should do them. Party. Susans and beverage. Clamps for the edge of the table.
Well no, because. It's got metal in it. Tupperware isn't Tupperware only allowed to be plastic? Wouldn't hold. The clamp wouldn't hold without metal. Shouldn't work.
Yeah, I don't know, but thank you. Thank you. Don't reckon this. Right here. So everybody in this.
Getting tipsy, yes. Debut single by American rapper Jay Kwan, AKA Gerald C Jones. I would have stuck with Gerald C Jones.
Jerrell, you say, Jerrell, I say, Jerrell, I don't know if the cambar thing. Like, I feel like your playlist. Your Spotify playlist is kind of like Cambar 1990 Skunk playlist.
Terrell, I think it's Gerald. With a with a little. Anita. So.
Yes, really. Set the party up right? Exactly.
And some, Gerald, yes, it was released through so. So def recordings. And now that I hear so, so deaf that makes sense and Arista records so, so def remix.
What? What?
What JC yo at anyway? Lead single woman? He's debut studio album Hood Hop from 2004. It was written by Jacon alongside Joe Kent and Mark Williams. Didn't Mark Williams do show no mercy, can't be this.
OK. Hood hop. Senator Mercy, I don't think it's the same Mark Williams.
I'd like to think. It is. That was a great song.
Show number. See everybody in this getting everybody in this showing mercy. Everybody showing mercy.
Oh no, MercyMe. That's a good song.
It was a great song. I still use it in the football now, don't they? I don't know.
Uh.
Do they give me it straight in the?
No, I don't.
Face between the eyes.
What is that? I don't think you should ever say that to a rap. Don't tell a rapper to give it to you straight in the face between the eyes, you. Know what? They're gonna do. Yeah, yeah.
Dangerous. Very dangerous. Produced by track boys, flew up the charts with its catchy foot stomp and hand clap beat. It's been accused of ripping off. We Will Rock you. I don't think it sounds like that, but just because it's got a bit of a.
Yeah.
Nah, just saying, clapping the stump.
Clap and a stomp, everyone. All the wowsers were up in arms. About that peaks at #2 in the US #5 here in Australia in 2013, Kanye said Tipsy was his all time favourite song. I don't know if he was joking or not.
Calm down everybody. Really. You can't tell whether Kanye.
No.
Taken the OR not these days.
No.
I think he would have been serious, actually.
Have you seen his titanium teeth? Now he looks like a bad guy out of a James. Bond movie. Yeah. And he looks like he's.
He's outfits make him look like he has. No neck, it's just.
Always get garbage bags on wearing garbage bags with titanium teeth.
He's having an interesting year, isn't he?
And then his wife doesn't have any outfits. She's just like.
She doesn't believe in pants.
She just comes out of the house wearing a piece. Of dental floss, it's very.
I like it.
I like the pantyhose's pants, but I'd go for an opaque.
Tight if was.
I like. I like the dental floss. I think it's it's wonderful.
Going to do that. You like the dental force? Ohh, that body suits you wore to Fashion Week. She couldn't stand sideways because if she stood sideways, the side **** is just.
She's for me. She's.
She's quite she's pretty stacked. Like she's, I mean, my God, yeah, yeah.
Ohh she's gorgeous. Stunning. Stunning but I don't know. Pants please. Yeah.
And then when she's.
Just sitting in a G string on a chair. I just think that's unhygienic. Unhygienic. I don't want to be sitting on that.
They do look like a couple. They look like a couple of.
Chair afterwards. Yeah.
Hmm, they look like a couple of villains out of some X rated superhero parody. Or some.
OK.
Don't they really?
Maybe he's got a movie coming out and this is all just promotions.
Well, that's terrifying. I'm not going to see that. Give it to me straight in the face between.
Kanye would do that. So in the video he is having a house party and it pays homage to the movie House party risky business and.
Ohh Hamas Lada risky business. The one the Tom Cruise film.
March. Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, where he does old time rock'n'roll.
Yes. And his undies. And it slides out.
In the zombies, yeah.
Hmm.
And also the. Video, gin and juice that's Snoop and Dre.
Dogg. Yes. Laid back.
Yes, and lots of cameos. Daz Dillinger, cousin of Snoop, Jermaine Dupri de Brat and Murphy Lee. He was in that song. Shake your tail feather with Nelly.
Ohh good for him, yeah.
They make cameos great, Speaking of cameo. OK.
Yeah, you mean the the cameo where?
I have. Will you pay the celebrities to do?
Where celebrities go to die, we're broke. Celebrities go to just turn a quick dollar.
Things, yes, yes. They're broke, but their prices are insane. I've been wanting to book vanilla ice for about 7 years now. I'm waiting because they do sometimes fan Friday and they do a special for $50. I'm waiting for the $50 special on vanilla ice because I am not.
Yes. You're waiting for the Black Friday sale.
Paying $6000 for vanilla rice. I'm sorry, it was like $6000.
$6000 for what a 32nd phone call video call.
Yeah. Can you? Well, video? Well, it's a video. Message that they do for.
6 grand.
Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, it's insane. So I'm waiting for.
That's it. That's it, right? Just book him to pay a concert for the same price, surely. Hey, he can't. Wow. OK. Yeah.
Him to go to 50 you could.
Well, you think so?
It's very expensive, and then if they're endorsing your business, I think you've got to charge 10. They charge us 10 times as much. So they don't do any endorsements for.
Is that right?
For cheap so. He's on cameo. You can message him for.
Something like, you know, hi, it's vanilla ice. And I'm telling you that you need to read the new Iraqi Constitution. Bring your truck, bring your trailer.
Yeah, you could hire to do that.
That'll be $6000. Thanks Colin Powell.
Come on, would be good for that. Yeah, you have that much money. Ohh. OK. Well, back then. Back then, Colon would have had some.
He's dead. He wouldn't be good for anything. No. Yeah. I think he's.
Money. You see, I think he did die. Yeah.
Dead. Yeah. He died.
That's it, but anyway.
Took a turn, didn't it on?
Cameo Jake won. Jake won. He's on cameo.
Ohh cameo yes Jakwan cameo yes. Hmm.
You can send him a message like a text right message for $8. I was gonna send him one just to see what would happen for $8.
Yes. So you so hang on. So you so on cameo you have to pay to send them a test.
Just yes, just to say hi, will you do a cameo for me? It costs $8. Well, I don't know what you can send in the message, so. I thought, well, that's worth it.
If Jake LON wants me to send him a text message, it's 50 bucks 50.
Maybe I was going to send him a. Message.
That's what I'll do it.
So.
I was willing to put 8 bucks up to send him a message. But what am I gonna?
Does he reply for $8?
Say. Maybe it's another $8 for the reply, I don't know. I don't understand how this.
That's outrageous.
Works. But if you wanna message a personalised message.
Well, what is going on? Yeah.
Jaquon is 1518 dollars.
Ohh bargain for. For a video message, not a text.
He can do a birthday message, a pep talk, a roast advice, answer a question, and there's another category called other. I don't know what other. Means.
I don't know.
Other is that where he gets into like ****? Really dirty stuff, you know? Yeah. Ohh yeah, maybe.
Gives him some party, Susan. Arrangements. Tips. I don't know. I don't know what he does.
Yeah.
For other shows his cabin.
Josie's. Aussie.
1518 dollars thank. You very much. I also so I've been Googling Jake on too much. I found the tipsy depreciation thread, not appreciation depreciation thread from 2:00.
In this. Yeah. Depreciation, the opposite of appreciation.
1004. Depreciation threats.
Yes.
Would you like to hear what rebel? Runt had to say.
So this is is this just? A a a congregation of jaquan haters.
This is just a pile on Jake Clowns. Yeah, they had a whole forum in 2004.
Oh, that's a bit. That's a bit awful. I kind of feel bad for taking because I. Don't wanna be part of that? No, but.
Would you like to hear what they said?
Well, yes, of course, yes.
Absolutely, Rebel, Rupp said. I thought I was the only one that hated this song. I blame Nelly. It's hot and her Sarah was getting over.
Ur ur body.
John, I got a great story about this tune. Apparently GJK Slay played it at a Ghost face concert, and everyone started booing. And throwing at casley. Good to know there are still real hip hop fans out there, then artificial times one.
Uh-huh. Artificial times, one artificial X1.
Or artificial X1. I took it as a time, so I thought it was.
Uh-huh.
A multiplication sign.
That's cause you're old.
Artificial X1I reckon that X would be a capital if it was. X1 it's lower case.
Alright.
I saw him perform in shy town. He sucked in good time. I got to freak dance with this stripper. I had met the night before. So much touching, man. You never get to bump and grind at a D&B event. Plus, they're brought to be looking rough. So artificial times one. I. Had a great time in the club getting tipsy.
What's a D&B of it? Ohh drum and. Bass, I guess, yeah.
Get.
Well, you can't bump and grind at a drum and bass event because.
You get hurt. Well, I guess the stomping and clapping works perfectly for a little bump and grind, yes.
Because it's.
It's a. Bit slower, so you can. Kind of thrust and counter thrust and.
Well, good for him.
An excellent tune for grinding.
He sucked, but I had it only.
He had an excellent time. I'm glad that he jumped on the depreciation thread and. Brought it back up I. Think that's some positivity positivity in.
It's really unfair because. The Forum on the Wolf kind of that's loaded though, like that's unfair. How can you say he sucked, but you still had a good time? Like if if he wasn't there, the stripper that he met the night before might have might have been there.
Probably wasn't there. And she probably wouldn't have wanted. To freak dance in the.
Exactly cause everybody in the club getting tipsy, everybody in the club getting tipsy. Bring your party Susans just to level it out, just to soak up some of the alcohol just a few jats soak.
So.
Up the alcohol. I love the I love the tweets nowadays, reflecting on everybody in the club getting tipsy. Now it's everybody in the club getting cranky because it's bedtime, so it's too old for this. Yes.
French onion dip, yeah. Yeah. Because it's it's they're our age. It's like my God is at the time, yeah.
Everybody is getting cranky #1 here in Australia jamilia with superstar. Remember this one.
I don't know. That makes me feel like. I don't know who you are, but you must be kind of a superstar. Because you got all eyes. On you, no matter where you are.
I do remember that.
And I think I know why you remember.
That.
Why do I remember that?
Think of a game that we used to do a lot on the PlayStation two. It was on the promo when you put the disc in, it's what started playing straight away. It was the ad. Yes, sinister.
Was it sing? Star says the original sing star.
Not the 80s. The Singstar pop hits, maybe, I don't know, but it was on the ad and when you put the disc in it automatically came up before you chose your song.
I don't think I. I don't think I ever sang it though. It wasn't in my register.
No, neither did I, but it just it just takes me back.
It was in my register of cattle.
Wall.
It was from her second studio album. Thank you. You something? I didn't know. It's it's not jamelia's song.
Yes.
Ohh well, somebody else clearly wrote. She's a pop star.
It's a cover. No, it's a cover. It was originally performed by a Danish pop singer called Christine Milton. Ohh, released in January 2003. So only a year earlier, so a cover a year later. What? Yes, here's her version.
Like.
Well.
Ah, cause you mean like you got some kind of choreographer?
Just does not work in there, does it?
Did they change that with the Jillian has?
That makes me feel like you, no matter where you are.
Uh.
Yeah, they reworked the lyrics.
Better than some kind of choreographer. It just doesn't work. There's there's an extra syllable that doesn't work with that.
You got all eyes on you, no. Matter where you are. It does sound like they're actually using the exact same instrumental track, although I feel like Christine Milton's one is speed up slightly.
And I do think they used some of Christina's vocals underneath.
Really. Really. That's scandalous.
As well. Ohh sure she would have been fired.
Who did it best? Who do you think did? The best.
I think Amelia, just because that's the one I know and choreographer. There's too many syllables. It just feels really awkward. It feels like.
Wow. Christine Milton is Danish? Yes. OK, cool. Yes, Jamelia is worst. Amelia from the UK. Hmm. OK.
She's from the UK, yes, but it's. I think there's the fact that choreographer just feels a little bit conky. It was almost like I've really gotta make this rhyme. That's the only word I. Can think of.
Cause you move like you've got some kind of choreographer. Yeah. It just doesn't work.
It just, yeah, but I didn't. Yeah, I did not know that that was. A cover. So I thought that was Steve.
Well, there it is. There's a bit of trivia. I'm glad you. That's why we pay you the big bucks here on the podcast, because that's where you you dig up all of.
Those amazing facts and tidbits I know and ohh wait for this the UK number. One, lots of tidbits here.
Ah.
Ohh give it to me straight in the face between the eyes. That's a karaoke favourite of mine. I have to say. And you know what? I don't care what anyone says. Toxic by Britney Spears is a damn good pop song. It is an extremely well.
It's fine.
Crafted piece of pop.
Music it is, and the video clip. And mice.
The video clip is is something else.
You know the video clips where?
That's the Brittany that that's how I want to remember Brittany.
You want to remember the toxic Britney?
It's the toxic, not the Brittany that we're seeing now.
There, which one the? Hostess, Britney or the body jewel, Britney.
All of the above. Oh, that's the Brittany that I want to remember. I don't want to remember the Brittany that I saw the other day on Instagram dancing around with the cigarette, thinking holy. Her hair is going to catch fire.
Ohh yeah, it can be a bit of a worry.
Hmm.
The whole thing is a massive worry. Get the hell out of Los Angeles. Go and move to the country, eat Peaches, do something. But don't do that anymore. Just get out of the.
Yeah.
Bejewelled Britney and toxic. Oh, I thought that was a flesh coloured unitard with diamonds. Apparently she was nude and they just stuck Jules on her. They just bedazzled her body. I read somewhere. I don't know how true that is, but that video clip.
Ohh yes.
Sue.
They bedazzled. Yeah, that's a. Imagine if you're doing work experience on that. Set. Ohh my God.
What's your job? I'm bedazzling a nude Britney.
That.
They wouldn't be allowed.
Fantastic. What would you stick it on with? There have to be some special skin glue, cause that's dangerous, isn't it?
In their work experience, they'd be off getting. Double sided taste. What's the? What's the the you use it for cake decorating. It's like a vegetable gum. That's what I think you'd use some kind of vegetable gums, maybe not fondant, but.
Fondants. You stick things in the fondant, don't you?
Yeah, anyway.
Edible glue. Yeah, there's an edible glue, isn't it?
I love it. Yeah.
That video clip got not banned, but MTV stopped playing it after the Super Bowl incident.
Ohh, with the ****** gate.
They thought it was too much after, so they're trying to obviously clean up their image. Ohh no, we won't play news. Bedazzled. Britney after Nipplegate wasn't our fault. No nude britneys.
Really. I think it's the. Either it was more for the air Hostess look in that in that film clip, really like, I mean, the bedazzled thing was it didn't leave much to the imagination of the air Hostess, it's.
Hmm.
Classy, you know.
Yeah. Yeah, I like when Paris did it, she replicated that outfit perfectly last year for Halloween.
Excuse me. Excuse me. Hostess. Another beverage, please. Perhaps, like a.
White chocolate macadamia cookie.
Yeah, I mean, you don't get much in flight meals these days.
Byron Bay cookie.
It's a freaking.
Sometimes you get a Byron Baker.
Byron Bay Cookie and one of those things of water that comes in a pot in a in a Jelly Cup that you peel the top.
The water. The Jelly? Yes, a Jelly cup.
And spill it all over you.
And then and then you cut your lip and then. It turns into a cold sore.
And then it's like ohh Hostess. I seem to have messed myself. If you could come and clean me up.
That would be wonderful. Toxic was originally offered to Kylie Minogue for her album body Language, really.
And she knocked it back.
Kylie thought. That's not really my style.
I could see Kylie doing that song. I could, and this is where, like, you know, the the craft of creating pop hits clearly does not lie in the hands of the performer ever does it really?
They do tend to shop the songs around, don't they? Yeah. I don't like that.
They do shop them around. Yeah. I mean, it's Amelia Jamelia approved it previously. When we're talking in that conversation, Brittany's the same. But I mean, I know that if if if you're putting it.
Yes.
A big name. Team. Well, it's like even Christina Aguilera, when we're talking about beautiful, was written by the chick from.
Four non.
Yeah, well, it was her song. She wanna give it to her to start with.
Correct. And she didn't want to give it to her. But then she did because she thought she would do it justice. So I. Guess that's how it goes sometimes, but. You know, it just goes to show that it's more about manufacturing as opposed to.
That Britney took it on took it on.
I mean some.
Somewhere along the assembly line, someone has created that and done a damn. Good. Job. That's what I'm saying. It's a very well crafted plot song.
Do you know who it was written by?
No.
This person.
Christina Milton. Ohh.
No, this person over here this button. Do you remember?
This.
Long touch me. That was. Was that an that's an 80s song.
Do you remember? An 80s song.
Isn't it?
I thought she was Australian, but she's British Kathy Dennis.
So she, well, there you go.
Cathy Dennis wrote toxic and she wrote it about an ex boyfriend. So Internet sleuths have been going back through Kathy Dennis's boyfriends, too. So she wrote it in 2003. So they went back.
This is this is this.
This is actually how psychotic Britney Spears fans are really, when.
Yes, and I'm glad.
You think about it.
They are because this is a very interesting story.
I think I'll take the the, the, the positivity of the Swifty any.
Day. So they've gone back through.
Of the toxicities of a Britney fan.
Kathy's Kathy.
'S Kathy's boyfriends from over the years you stalked the social scene, who she was.
Yes.
You know, hard releasing on Instagram or? Is that what it's called or soft launching? I don't know. I don't know what they call it. Anyway, they found out that in 2003, when Cathy. Dennis wrote this. She was going out with a guy called Noel Fitzpatrick. Now, if you're from the UK, you would be very familiar with Noel. Fitzpatrick's work.
Do we have any listeners from the UK?
We do. There's a few. There's a few.
Hopefully the algorithm will deliver us more after this conversation.
I think Australian. We say UK a few more times British TV show.
Yes.
Called supervet. Supervet supervet is a clean cut supervet, but apparently he was toxic when he was going out with Kathy Dennis.
Wow.
So that's who toxic is about, and the fan that did the sleuthing that founded out was very.
Upset. I just found out that the song, toxic by Britney Spears, is apparently about Noel Fitzpatrick, AKA Channel 4 Super vet. Because the person who Co wrote the song was dating him and got dumped and then wrote toxic. Which means that every time I've been going baby, can't you see I'm calling and I like you should wear a warning. And the guy like you, that should wear a warning. Is the guy who fixed my auntie's cat's pelvis when he got run over.
Fitzpatrick.
Really.
Put so eloquently there by Erin Broadhurst. Thank you, Erin, for finding that out for us. I think it was. I think it was her. TikTok. Yeah.
Where did that come from? Where's she on? Really, she's on TikTok. That's the same place where I learned the velvet beef. And look how I ended up. Yeah. Should have paid more attention to Aaron. I think that's that's extraordinary.
She's. Well, if you have some problems with your pelvis from the bicarb soda, then you can call up super vet. The toxic super vets.
Don't see the. Yeah. I don't know.
The other thing that's come to light as well I've I saw this on the socials. I think it was last year. So I've been waiting for an opportunity to to talk about this, which I also thought was interesting. The the song, the that was taken from was that. Good or not good?
What just happened?
That is actually.
Sound a very polyphonic.
Take.
It's the Nokia version 3210 version of Toxic there. Thank you. That'll be $63 for your mobile phone.
Yeah. OK. Right. So you're talking about the sample, the little instrumental bit the yeah.
Strings. Is it a violin sounds? Like a violin.
It's a I don't know, it's a selection of strings string set.
Sounds like an angry violin. Very hyperactive. That is from a Bollywood movie.
This pic.
Yes is this.
Right. And this is the movie.
Did, yes.
Those two different sayings.
Ohh that's kind of tweaked it a little bit.
May put it over the top of.
Mashed it together well, isn't that?
Each other, that's. Very clever. I wonder if that was.
She's very clever.
Cathy as well.
I likes the.
That feels like something a. Jaded ex would do, yeah.
It definitely is. I like the this. They're kind of.
So yeah, she's watching a. Bollywood movie to get over the. Super Van and she went. I like those strings. I'm gonna Chuck. Them in that song.
I like the the surf guitar bit in there as well. That kind of James Bond surf.
Hmm.
Sound.
Umm.
So yes, there's a lot going on in toxic and deservedly #1 in the UK this time 20 years ago.
It really is. Well, did the UK even care about the number one at the moment? Because there was just massive news happening in the UK. I mean, you can forget about the bombing of trains in Madrid cause apparently this was newsworthy as well, which I I find. Extraordinary.
Love them or loathe them, Westlife are a pop phenomenon. Chart toppers and record Breakers for 30 million sales. The only band whose first seven songs all made it to #1. But today, five became 4 when Brian said he wanted to spend more time with his wife.
With this camera.
Mary, the Queen of the Jungle and daughters Molly and Lily.
I haven't really been able to commit 100% to Westlife and I haven't been able to commit 100% to. My family, so. I kind of felt it was unfair on both. And I just felt it was the right time for me to kind of stand back.
With the three W wives and the showbiz media looking on, emotions ran high as the bands said their farewells to Brian.
The last five days have been a huge strain on all of us, and only us five and knew you will ever understand. That. We have enjoyed so many times with you on the road. We've shared laughter, tears, success, weddings and babies. But most of all, we've shared our dreams.
In the best showbiz tradition, the show must go on with the world tour due to start in Belfast at the end of. Month.
Without Brian. Why, Brian, I just can't believe that that that's. That was like a lead story in the news over there at the time they gave a press conference.
No.
Where's life were huge.
Well, obviously huge enough to warrant a press conference.
They would have been the biggest story bands over there at that point in time.
That is extraordinary. And he said that he wanted to. Bend, where he couldn't handle juggling more time with the band or more time with the family, so he wanted to spend more time with the family.
Because he had, I think he had two daughters at that stage and he was with Kerry Katona from Atomic Kitten.
Yes, yes. And she was doing the mum thing and being stay at home while he was off living the dream. But I just wonder if they were kind of happy with that arrangement. I mean, this is the thing when dads end up with too much time on their hands and they and they come home, they start to take up things like cooking. And you can imagine, Carrie, tonight I'm going to try and.
Hmm.
Velvets and beef with bicarbonate of soda.
Well, you know.
That's possibly what happened, because a few months later, I think they split up so he well, no Westlife had split up him and Kerry broke.
Westlife feed. Ohh Carrie dude.
Up.
I said he didn't like his.
Cooking. I don't. I don't know what happened, but it was interesting because he was.
He tried to kill us with bicarb soda.
He was Brian with a Y when he was in West life. Yeah. So then he leaves West life and he he switches the Y for an I.
A bra and. Became brain.
Brianne. Yeah. Instead of Brian. Brian. Brian. Yeah. And he then went. So he was saying it was too hard to juggle and being be in a band. But then he went and was recording tracks for a solo album called Brian with an eye. So he's making it. He was going solo, so.
Yeah.
Do you think he was lying about wanting to spend more time with her and just wanted to cash in and go solo with his new eye?
I I no, I think that he, I mean his pop singer so they can spit this stuff out pretty quickly. I think that he decided to stay at home. He said. Alright, well, I'll do it. I'll quit Westlife and I'll stay at home and then? Yeah, he realised that he. Was a bit rubbish at.
Thinking ohh so he needed a different hobby.
And. And he's like, oh, well, like, you know, they say don't give up your.
What am I good? At.
Day. Job. So he gave up his day job and then realised he shouldn't given up his day job. So he.
All I can do is swim. I'm going to go and do some albums.
Went and did some more of his.
Day job. Was he the hot one, was he? The hottest in in Westlake?
I don't know is that the? Is that the dude that's on? Did he? Is he the judge on The Voice and all of that stuff or idle or whatever?
That's the dude. Well, that's the dude that furries, Brian with an eye album, asks Delta our deal. Water. To perform on his album. Yeah, I think a song called almost here and at this stage, Carrie's ****** at him for the bicarb soda, and they're on a hiatus. They're on breaks and deltas. Just dropped the poo.
L delta. Yeah. Bad cooking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
As in Mark Philippoussis's, not a #2.
Also, she hooked up with him.
They they were engaged. Did you not know that there?
Ohh, is that is that?
Was. And.
The Brian McFadden we're talking about. Who am I thinking of?
Who's the other? Who's the other?
I don't know what are you thinking of Robbie Williams when we.
No. Who's the one that's friends with Kyle Sandilands? That's Brian McFadden as.
Left take that. It's Brian. Well, Ryan was Ryan. No, Ronan Keating Boyzone.
Ohh, that's Ronan Keating. Who I'm from here.
But I think Ronan, I think Ronan Keating had something to do with creating where's life, I think.
Wesley so Brian McFadden is OK. So I'm getting confused.
But Brian, yeah, I think Brian was the best looking.
Yeah, I mean, they all look the same to me.
One out of them.
Is that racist?
Possibly. Possibly to brians with wise but not brians with I's so then they were thinking and delta were together for a very long time. They're engaged, they're engaged at some points and then they split up the end.
Yeah. OK.
Yeah, I remember him. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Well, they became a came over to Australia and he. Was everywhere.
And I think we were, we adopted him. I think he was. Ohh. You're one of us now. And you have Brian. You're going out with our national treasure delta. Welcome, welcome to the.
One of our own. Yeah. Welcome. Yeah. Yeah, cool. It's like, you know, come over to Maxim's Chinese restaurant in Cootamundra will really show you how to velvet beef.
Country. Something like.
That.
And afterwards we'll pull out a party season.
Make sure you bring the cabanossi, Brian and The Jets. If we're reaching for a running gag, and I I honestly don't know where that came from, I don't know where.
It's not a gag. It do you think it's for real? Can you Google party Susan to see if it's? I don't think it is.
It came from.
Hassan.
Susan.
I think some.
Party Susan Turntable party Susan or Lazy Susan party, Susan versus lady Lazy Susan.
Verses. OK, well, what's the? What's the outcome of the verses?
Susan, this a Lazy Susan is a turntable or a rotating tray placed on a table or countertop to aid in distributing food, which we all know.
Hmm.
Yes, yeah. And generally, Chinese restaurants have the laser season, yes.
Yeah, but I don't think.
Can you show me a picture of a party, Susan?
I I image search party Susan versus Lazy Susan. Yeah, it's it's the.
It is a thing.
Well.
Yeah, well, it's more of a Lazy Susan that I'm seeing, but what about? I'm just gonna try party. Susan. Tupperware. I I feel like, you know, like grandparents. Are allowed to invent words.
I think they.
Do from time to time, don't they?
Vintage Tupperware party, Susan. Ohh.
Show me. Show me. Ohh.
That's the one on Etsy. It's the one with the.
It does have.
The handle I told you I had, like, the handle that you.
It's got a.
Could clip in, right? Yeah. It's got all the bits. Yeah. It's got a cabin. Aussie hole. You put your dip in the middle. Yeah. OK. And you've got the you've got all the little segments. They're triangles. It's a big.
Yes. And. A kind and well according to that. You sure do. Yeah. Kabasi on the side. Jacks. Yeah. Yeah.
Michael and you pop the lid on and I think before you pop the lid.
Yeah.
On you clip the. Handle in OK.
That's like a strap handle. A strap handle.
It's a strap hand.
And according to the listing on Etsy, it's tough aware parts buy it. Buy it now, buy it, do it.
It's how much is it? Only 30. Bucks. Yes, I'm going to. It's used. It might have a cabin. Nosy smell to it.
As long as they didn't put like spaghetti or anything and it's now you put spaghetti Bolognese in Tupperware and it goes permanently red, so we don't.
Nasty table. Nice. It looks white and well. You could just put some vodka outside.
Want any of that? Bye. Bye bye. Quick. Hurry. Ohh, wait. Wait. No, no, no. Last time I bought something on Etsy. It only cost me $2.00. But it was from America. So.
Ohh shipping yeah $600.00 shipping. We'll just we'll go to an Australian.
For me, $40 to. Get it shipped to you, so don't. Buy it. I'll have a look.
Stock just bookmarket. OK heart.
Just click the heart, yeah.
But it doesn't spin so.
No, but it's. But it's a Tupperware party, Susan. There you go. Bugging me.
Why is it then? Why is it? A party, Susan. Susan.
On eBay. Yeah, well, that's just what Tupperware called it. They're everywhere. There's hundreds of them. Ohh. My God. It's a party. Susan. Blowout.
Do you think after party Susan's became popular that the name Susan became popular because? I feel like. The time that that was in, that was when I was. Sort of in. Same time well this when I was in primary school and there was three seasons in my.
Yes.
Class. Really, yes.
Hmm.
3 susans Ohh One was a Susie, but that was short for Susan.
Really.
Do you think maybe, maybe after a bit too much partying with the party, Susan?
Uh-huh.
Umm. Think about it.
I think Cabanossi might be an. That's what I think. Anyway, sorry we digress, but I'm really glad I found that out I.
Wow.
I'm sorry.
For doubting you, I thought. No way. That's stupid.
Well, and I'm sorry for doubting my grandmother. I thought she just made up the word. But it's a real thing. The parties. We've learned something today. That's a throwback to probably the 70s, and we're all about, you know, 2004 at the moment, but that's fine entertainment. We're doing entertainment, what's happening in entertainment? Well, not a lot in the box office. It's the passion of the Christ.
I apologise, I apologise, Madam. No.
Is just number one in the box office because everyone just. Wants to see Jesus get bashed by a bunch of Romans? It is a it's a horror movie. I. Yeah, we've we've discussed it before, so we'll move on from that. We'll go straight.
How terrible it is, yes.
Hmm.
To TV. OK, 12th of March 2004, we had a reality show premiere called playing it straight.
I vaguely remember that title.
I think we got it here in Australia. I'm gonna say it was when I was working in TV because they had it on really late at night. I remember doing the.
Ohh, is it one of those ones that you reckon they. Yeah. So maybe it's one of the ones they bought and then they're just like.
Backing out before it. Going ohh, this sounds a bit racy. It's a bit, I think it came as a job lot. If you buy, you know, Desperate Housewives and lost, well, throw in playing it straight and then they watch playing it.
Right. We'll throw in a. It. Yeah.
So it went. I think we're gonna have to play this at midnight.
Because that's how it used to work, isn't it? The networks would go to like.
They'd go overseas.
For the show. Cases.
In Vegas, I think, and they'd bid for the yeah, they'd bid for the programmes. Yeah, it's very cutthroat. But you've also got a yeah, you have to take.
And I did, yeah, but with. But it'd be like, well, OK, we'll give you this. But you gotta take this other stinker as well.
Care. And that that's usually what would end up in the middle of the night in amongst the infomercials.
And so So what was playing straight about? I I mean I can guess.
Playing it straight was, I guess, capitalising on. And. I think around this time we started to see, you know, queer eye for the straight guy. We started to see a lot more gay representation on TV.
Yeah, like the L word, yes.
And they thought they'd take that theme, turn it into a bit of. A reality show. To see if people could work out if someone was gay or straight, but in that Bachelorette SQL dating scenario.
Right, yeah. Right, so, so, OK, where's the trailer?
It is a bit wrong.
Here it is not.
All of the guys are here for romance some of. Them. Are gay.
What?
I shave my legs so it's there's a definite possibility may think I'm. Get some people may very well construe baking a cheesecake and as being gay.
I am a straight. Man, everybody's gay but made. He's like the big.
It's flamer I've ever met in my.
Life it's.
If Jackie ends up picking a straight guy, she and he will each win half $1,000,000, but if she falls for a gay guy, he will win the whole million and she will walk away with nothing.
Every little thing I analyse that they do, I don't think a gay man would kiss. Me.
Went to it sitting. Or standing ohh like.
She's trying to sniff out the gay.
Guys, what are your?
Feminine qualities. I'm not gay. We're here for the money. I mean, we're all out for. Blood.
And I don't know which one.
Of you is starting.
To spread to the rumours or whatever.
It's a little bit much, I think.
I'd like to experiment with Velveteen beef, and some people might think that makes me gay.
Somebody says it's. I don't like it. I don't it it it just gives an excuse as well to just just listening to those comments. It's just that that stereotyping but also putting that negative spin on it under the guise of.
That's horrible. Yeah. So that it's like they send to the so like.
Well, you know, you're competing, but you you don't really love it because you're gay, but it it's almost like they're giving themselves permission to hate on the gay guys. I don't know. It just.
It's just, it's an experimenting great, really, isn't it? It's it's cause, it's like well, it's. I mean, it's a morality meets sexuality type. It's garbage, that's what.
So half of the men there are there.
It is, it's just garbage. It's garbage.
Just to win money, obviously.
Yeah, it's like I know you're gay, but if you seduce that woman and then break her heart, we'll give you $1,000,000. I don't know any gay people that would like to break anyone's heart, let alone a woman's, like gay guys. Anyway, that would want to do that, you know.
It took, I don't know.
Tall girls. Whatever. I don't know. See, I'm getting confused. I'm actually digging myself into a hole, even talking about it. And I didn't make up the show. It's not my fault.
I know. And then you start thinking like, well, who's the worst out of the group? Like the the straight guys who are making all these horrible remarks about the gay guys or the gay guys going in it with not wanting love at all, just wanting to win the money and wanting to lie about it, to win the money and potentially break her? I don't know.
But she knew, too. She knows, like, knows.
She finds out well, she didn't know until they started the show, so they didn't tell them the premise until they started. They thought it was just a run of the mill Bachelorette show.
And then like you've got. To try and.
Right.
And then she found out. And she's like. Umm.
Imagine if they.
But I'm gonna keep playing cause. You know I'm not lost.
Imagine if they set that in the Deep South it like.
Ohh gosh.
We we're gonna sniff out ourselves, our homosexual.
It's terrible. Yeah, it it. I think it was axed after the first season and.
Terrible.
And was met with a lot of criticism from critics who claimed that it reinforced stereotypes and promoted the negative portrayal of gay men like like we were saying, so did not see a season 2. And I think for those that are interested in the outcome, I think she ended up picking a straight guy and I think they stayed together.
Yeah.
Some time. Hmm well.
Really. That's.
I mean, there you go. Love conquers. I guess is there any way you can watch this? Or doesn't. Online, I don't know. Just it's not, not it's like I hate watching. It's like maths, you know, like I hate maths. I hate everything it stands for. I can't stand any of the people on it. See. No, no, I can't. I don't think I could even hate watch it. I don't think I could. I find the concept pretty gross.
I don't know. I don't think I. Wanna watch it?
OK.
Hmm.
That is very early. 2000s, though, remember something about Miriam.
Yeah, that was even, I think worse because Miriam was trans.
That was. And the and the. Consequences of that as that was.
Well, it's just I I think that was when, you know, reality TV really doesn't. I mean the producers just didn't have a conscience. They were just like, well, baby aware. But if they're not aware and they sign up for it, it's like we'll more fool you.
Hmm.
But has it really changed that much? Look at things like maths.
York now. Well, I think now I think the buyer is aware like because of all that's gone before, I mean, how could you not be people are fame ****** these days. So it's all about notoriety and you know the phenomena that I see these days, especially when you look at people like Logan and Jake Paul.
Hmm.
Hmm, who were darlings one second and had heaps of follows. They're even more popular now that people hate them. They're like, hate, almost sells more than adulation or adoration. Yeah, it's like they can't stand them. So you hate watch it. So. And that's why I was saying, are there things on online for this? Because I'd probably hate it so much that I couldn't look.
That's strange.
Yeah, you want the villain that it's.
Away. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I know what you're saying, but.
I don't mind hate. I hate watching maths. There's no none of the people on that show have redeeming qualities.
I've moved on from that. I like. I used to like hate watching about four or five years ago. I just. Can't deal with it anymore.
Done. I've got better things to do with my time.
It it just, I don't know, it's hard. Because you look at the people that go on that and they're not just aiming to go on that show, they've got their name down for any reality show. So they have agents and they're just shopping around for whatever reality show will take them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you cook? I'll cook. I'll cook. I'll velvet some beef. I don't mind.
It's all. It's all for the it's all for the Gramme followers and then but then you feel bad for them when they get what they call the villain and they're like that's not what happened at all. They're just editing it to make me look bad and it it can ruin your life like a lot of people have lost jobs over that they've lost their careers and then the whole.
Yeah, yeah.
There's going to be an element of, it's going to be an element that looking bad though to start with.
The whole world then turns on them. Yeah, but, you know, I don't know that they're necessarily. As bad as they're. Made out to be and then. Then everybody hates them. And if you're not, if you're not a strong person like that.
Well, this is. Well, this is the genius of someone like Jake Paul who I mean I.
They're pretty devastating.
Can't stand, but you have to admire his, I guess. What is it? What is it that he's got? I don't know. It's tenacity, resin.
Tenacity.
Vision to be able to go, hey, like they hate me so much that I'm gonna he's the YouTube boxer. So Logan, he's the brother. He's his wrestler who's also doing pretty well for himself. But Jake Paul is the one that was boxing all the MMA fighters.
To capitalise on that. Is he the wrestler or boxer?
OK.
And I think that's the thing everybody will pay because they want to see him get beat up, but he's actually good, isn't he? He's pretty good.
And winning. Yeah. And knocked out well. Or is he, like, it's all pretty stacked? I don't know. But you listen to dudes like Mike Tyson who say that. Jake Paul has breathed life into a sport that is completely dying, like boxing is dying, so he's brought some interest back to it. But at the same time he's making millions and millions of dollars every time he puts out a pay-per-view because it gets hyped up so ridiculously well on social media, on the Instagram, on the TikTok and all those things.
We'll have some interest back to it.
That all anyone is wanting to see. He is him, get knocked out and the longer it goes of him knocking it. I mean, the one that he does get knocked out at is gonna have to be like his best and final payday. I don't know. Anyway, I mean, this is what we're we're.
Is it worth all that money to have no friends though?
It is it any different to back in the day when the Romans had the Colosseum and they used to feed the Christians to the lions? Probably not. Probably not. But this look on the other side of things over in Australia, but on the ABC's, The Good old ABC Auntie, Good Old Auntie as we.
Yes, yes, yes.
Caller there was a fantastic show hosted by James O'Loughlin, who was a comedian and just a great broadcaster as well called the new inventors. Do you remember this?
Show I remember this show and I remember we had a chat to James O'Loughlin once we worked on the radio and he had just, well, his wife had just had a baby and the baby was crying in the background.
I loved it. Yes.
That's right. He was on dad duty.
And you made a dad joke saying something like, well, you better get back to your new invention. And he thought that was great. I was very proud of you that day. I was.
Yes.
You made the comedian.
Thinking on my feet made the comedian thank you. Thanks. I appreciate that. And the new inventors was a great show. So that was. That was like, yeah, it was like a panel show.
That was good. Good on you still remember that.
It. Lovely, wasn't it? So they had like Shark Tank, but. Nice, yeah.
Shark Tank that but just not.
Without.
Told Judges 3 Australian inventions short little video packages IP Australia were were their supporting the programme and they described it as a way for Australian inventions to get publicity and possible entrance. Into a mass market and there's this one invention that James got into. It was a vehicle.
Was it solar powered or something?
I think it was like some kind of solar powered recumbent bicycle, I'm not sure.
It looked a bit odd.
Yeah, it didn't end well for him.
And how fast does it? Go. Ohh, I've done 80. 85 Alright, let's hope it's got a good turning circle. Well, it feels pretty smooth. It feels fantastic, in fact. Wow. That didn't happen in rehearsal. Take two.
I don't know how happy you'd be about somebody crashing your invention on live television.
He crashed it into the set.
Yes, but there was some great inventions on there. There was the the litter quitter. Do you remember?
And locked the set.
That it was the one that did away with the cat litter trade by teaching your cat how to actually squat over the toilet. Yeah, train the cat to poo in the toilet. That's. I mean, that's amazing.
Ohh I. Do remember that. Yes it. I remember that. And they did. It did go. On to be a product they sold. It yeah, yeah, they manufactured it.
Yes, it's extraordinary. And now and then you'll see it like if you Google Cat videos, if you cat toilet videos, there's hundreds of videos on TikTok on Instagram. These days of cats just laying a cable in a normal toilet. Phenomenal.
Very clever I.
You can tell when the cat's laying a cable cause the tail goes straight, where if they're doing a wee, the end of the tail just kind of wiggles a little bit, yeah, wiggles. Oscillates. Yeah. Yeah. I used to have a cat. Yeah. Yeah. I once discovered it doing it in the pot plant instead of a litter box was terrible. Sure.
Right.
Thanks.
OK, that's good to know I suppose. Bottle liquider you should have umm the one I remember is the sipper straw. I we actually gave these away on the kids show that I used to do sipper.
Sipah HHH.
Yeah. So you'd feel you'd have a glass of milk and then you'd put this straw into the milk and inside the. Draw with little beads of I guess the equivalent of nest quick I suppose. So it's like strawberry and chocolate. So then as you drank the milk through the straw it. Would flavour the. Milk as a way to.
Ohh, nice to get kids to drink milk. Keeping the dairy industry, yeah.
Get kids to drink more milk. And that's yeah, that that went to market as well, very popular sipper.
Amazing. Do you ever think you might have been an inventor when you're a kid? You know, it's like it's like, oh, maybe I could be an inventor. You'd watch shows like you remember the gremlins like the dad was an inventor and gremlins. He made the like the shaving thing.
Umm, I could be an.
Hmm.
So did you? What was your invention? Did you think of something when you? Were a kid.
No.
OK, I'll be I I was like I need. I need an invention or some like something like to make an app or I need a I need a good idea but.
Yeah, yeah. Now it's apps, isn't it? It's like apps and and like.
It's apps or it's it's something, something niche you wanna have like a really good idea. That's niche. That solves a problem. But a niche problem, not a mainstream.
Yeah, you're really mash problem.
Yeah, no, I've got no ideas.
Yeah. What? One of my favourite inventions recently was the Squatty Potty.
Why is it out in the? Shed.
Ohh yeah. Well, I wasn't gonna say that. I bought one on the podcast, but but I did, because apparently and it.
Oh, OK. It sounded like a good idea, and when you saw the ads, you're like that. That makes that makes sense. That makes sense. Having your knees a little bit higher because sometimes I go tippy toe and I think ohh yeah that.
With the little uniform. Whooping the rainbow, yeah. Yeah, I just thought it would. I just thought it would be more efficient.
It. Well, it is. Yeah, it is. Well, why aren't you using?
It anymore because I actually enjoy my private time.
You don't want to rush it, you want to.
2020 minutes in the just for some peace and quiet so I can watch my tik toks and learn how to velvet beef sounds pretty good to me.
Rush these things you Tik toks to watch.
Goodness gracious has been a very revealing podcast this week.
You've shared a lot.
I've I've overshared really I mean but. But in my defence.
You, heaven forbid.
I wasn't going to mention that I owned a Squatty potty. Anyway, let's do this. Tooting to the hatches matches and dispatches a celebrity having a birthday. That said this.
Looking out for me right now. From my past years, no longer live.
That's a very rocky type demo from someone by the name of. If you said Taylor Dane.
Would also accept Leslie Wonderman.
Leslie wonderman.
That is her. Real name. Get out the party. Susans her birthday is the 7th of March.
Tell me. Every time you go ohh.
Just any excuse to bust out a bit to tell it to my heart. Yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes, I did say to you, I'm sorry, but that's.
Yeah, that's really gonna set the. That'll really set the party off, right? Yeah. You can just see everyone, mate. Somebody's tossing the party. Susan over on the table and dancing on top of it. Yes.
Gonna be happening this. Week because I'm not gonna have another chance.
So good, so good.
I yes. On top of the party, Susan. To give you an.
Well, the table moving the party, Susan aside, dancing on the table.
Extra couple of centimetres. Ohh. The table. Right. OK. I heard that in Woolworths Radio the other day.
Straight past the after dinner mints and Inter. You heard it in Woolworth's radio.
It was on Woolworths radio and I was in Woolworths. I wasn't listening to Woolworths radio elsewhere, I was in, I was in the store and that came on it.
Yeah, yeah.
Was good. It's a good shop, productive.
Trying to calm you down, that's what they're trying to do. Woolworths trying to calm you down, cause everyone's angry. Everyone's angry at the big supermarkets at the moment with their record profits and their price gouging. Yeah, yeah. And they're just like.
That's not going to calm me down. Are they? Ohh.
Hmm.
And I'm like, well, we just eat.
That came out in 1987. I remember being on a train in Queensland because we were at World Expo 88 and my dad and I loved Taylor Dane and we were sitting on a train going to my friend Karen's house. She was my friend in primary school and she'd moved to Brisbane. So while we're at Expo 88.
Yep.
Caught the train to Karen's house to go and see them and their parents were friends with my parents and I think they probably would have been a party, Susan and maybe some after. And we're on the train and there was a lady listening to it in her Walkman, but she had it so loud that we could hear it and my dad and I looked at each other and we smiled. We smiled. We're like, little nod and a little.
You could hear it. Good vibe. It was a vibe at knowing glance. Yeah. Yeah. Not a tailor. Dade fan. Yeah, they're everywhere. They're everywhere. So what's she doing at the moment?
Nod. Yeah, I love that song. So good, so good. Yes.
I follow her on Instagram. I've been following her for ages. She is still performing. She is. She is still going hard. She was on Kelly Clarkson the other day. She's just launched a new single.
Do you?
Good on you.
Yeah, Ohh can't remember. It's called.
She's like Anastasia before Anastasia. Yeah.
That's what Anastasia's like, the budget. Taylor Dane.
Tyler dying from wish.com. That's not fair. Anastasia's.
Yeah.
Good news, she's all.
Right. But she's not not as good as the OG and.
Yeah.
Blue Cantrell I. Feel is it slight Anastasia River as well?
Anyway, this is not about either of those. It's about Taylor Dane. It's her birthday.
It was also a tailor. Done. Report it is about her. It is about her birthday. So she I think she's just started or just about to start a big a big stadium tour over in the states. But she's been doing, she's been in smaller, intimate gigs. I think she's done some stuff in Vegas. I think I found her show in Vegas actually.
Great.
Listen to that.
Still got it, still got it.
It's a big voice just saying like that was being recorded from the bathrooms.
It's on an iPhone I think.
Like ohh. Just gonna go into the bathroom to record my bootleg of Taylor. Dane, that's odd. Anyway, yeah, sounds pretty good.
She still sounds amazing. So 2000 and four, 2005, I think it was. She was in a VH1 reality series called Remaking and it was about her return to music after taking time off to have her family. She's got twins. Well, she had twins around that time and then wanted to come back in.
Really. Uh.
Into the industry and she released the single right now in collaboration with. This.
Rodney. Jack.
Is that what this one is? Ohh yeah right sorry I played it twice. Yeah. Wow.
Doctor Nana Rodney Jenkins. Yes. Take up again.
Yeah, that guy, Rodney Jerkins. Who did say my name by Destiny Child. The the production is terrible on that. Sounds really muddy. I think it's a leaked copy, like obviously wasn't mastered or anything like that. Yeah.
That's Rodney, that's fine.
Is it?
No, I don't remember hearing it. So I don't know. I don't know. She was also on the masked singer in 2020, she was popcorn.
No. Oh dear.
And she competed on season 2 of RuPaul's Secret Celebrity Drag Race under the drag name Electra Owl. Oh.
Nice. So she reckons she's gonna do an arena tour after being popcorn on the masked singer. She's dreaming. She can't. Yeah, she, I I'd tell her she's dreaming. She'd. Be like. And then I'd be. Yeah, I stand corrected. Like, listen to that man. Of course. Of course she's gonna succeed.
She is incredible.
She is incredible. Happy birthday, Taylor Dane. And we've succeeded in getting to the end of the podcast for another week. Ohh, we made it. Thank you very much. Interesting week. Next week, Mel. Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Love her, love.
Her.
I don't know.
It's always interesting. I think we're going to outer space. One of your favourite locations.
Really. I like it when we do the space stuff because we have to work very hard to understand science and that's, I mean, you've heard us. We can't. We don't even know what a freaking party Susan is. So how we gonna go? Can't velvet beef don't know what a party Susan is. Ohh, cool. Let's go to space. That'll work out.
Well, we've got lots of Music Awards. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Ind. Deep Soul Train Music Awards Wrestle Mania ** was that 20 WrestleMania. Do you remember that one did.
Oh God.
Uh.
Ah yeah. I do. I do. I was. I'm an aficionado. I do. I own that one. I've got that one on DVD.
You watch it. You are. You got. I was gonna sell VHS DVD's.
No divide. WrestleMania 20 even. Yeah. Cool. I'm excellent. We get to talk about wrestling. That's wonderful.
Ohh, you go enjoy the future, aren't you rich? You got some after dinner mince.
Yes, I think you'd need them when you're gonna be in an intimate situation like wrestling, when you just, you know, on the mat.
Yes.
You want to have an after dinner mint before you commence. You know, just to mask the cabanossi. Anyway, Speaking of master Cabanossi, it's time for us. To go yes. Thanks very much for listening. You can find us on the socials, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, even just look for t -, 20 podcast. We love you. We appreciate you. We will see you next week.
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