The headline is a bit misleading but British PM Tony Blair did visit the US this week 20 years ago where he held a joint press conference with the US President Geroge W Bush to talk all things Coalition of the Willing and give an update on the War in Iraq. Surprisingly Bush managed to forget a few key dates when questioned.
In sport West Indian Cricket batting legend Brian Lara broke the record for the highest individual score in a test innings with a whopping 400 not out. In spite of this, the match against England would result in a draw.
On the charts Usher continues with world domination and add his latest single 'Burn' to the Billboard charts to compete with 'Yeah'. But Mario Winans says 'I Don't Wanna Know' . If you think that song isn't that old, you're probably remembering The Weekend's version 'Creepin' from 2022.
In entertainment news, the Olsen Twins, Mary-Kate and Ashley go to war with the press as they fight for their right not to be called 'The Olsen Twins'.
And Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey make us wonder if they actually are Muppets when their variety special airs on NBC featuring Kitt from Knight Rider, Jewel and the actual Muppets among all their guests.
We also take a peek at the New York Times Best Seller for this week in 2004 'Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror' by former U.S. chief counter-terrorism advisor Richard A. Clarke.
Along with some other stuff!
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
The headline is a bit misleading but British PM Tony Blair did visit the US this week 20 years ago where he held a joint press conference with the US President Geroge W Bush to talk all things Coalition of the Willing and give an update on the War in Iraq. Surprisingly Bush managed to forget a few key dates when questioned.
In sport West Indian Cricket batting legend Brian Lara broke the record for the highest individual score in a test innings with a whopping 400 not out. In spite of this, the match against England would result in a draw.
On the charts Usher continues with world domination and add his latest single 'Burn' to the Billboard charts to compete with 'Yeah'. But Mario Winans says 'I Don't Wanna Know' . If you think that song isn't that old, you're probably remembering The Weekend's version 'Creepin' from 2022.
In entertainment news, the Olsen Twins, Mary-Kate and Ashley go to war with the press as they fight for their right not to be called 'The Olsen Twins'.
And Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey make us wonder if they actually are Muppets when their variety special airs on NBC featuring Kitt from Knight Rider, Jewel and the actual Muppets among all their guests.
We also take a peek at the New York Times Best Seller for this week in 2004 'Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror' by former U.S. chief counter-terrorism advisor Richard A. Clarke.
Along with some other stuff!
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. Yeah, George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind, 20 years with Joe and Mel.
Week of 11 April 2004.
T -, 20, the rest is history 20.
You know what? I'm very forgetful. Hello.
There. Stop trying to make fetch happen.
What we're waiting for.
This is harder than I.
Thought it would be my fellow Americans. Let's roll.
20. Let's roll. Let's roll backwards. Let's rewind even to the week. That was 20 years ago on T -. 20 with your host, Joe and Mel. Hello.
Mel. Hello. We're roll and roll and rolling into the 11th to the 17th of April 2004. I know I need a red starter.
Ohh how how limp biscuit of you. I need to have a shower.
Yeah.
399. On strike.
Big, big news in cricket as Brian Lara breaks a record for the sport, you're riveted.
Alright, click it. But I do remember I do remember that name. I do. I do remember that name, Brian. Like he was a big deal.
Do you wanna come and? Have a shower with me. Yes. So big in fact, that they made video games about him.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson.
Ohh. Crowd goes wild for Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson as they embark on their very first variety show.
Yes. And I was hoping to hate watch it, but I think I like it. I've enjoyed. I've enjoyed what I've seen so far and I think.
I don't mind a. Bit of a. I don't mind a bit of variety. Variety TV is comforting because we're getting old.
I'll be watching. The rest of it. So I'm just. Gonna pack my snark away and have a good time. It's good.
Yeah, and get into some variety television. You're very just the cheesier the better, I say.
Yeah, the harpoon. Book and tape it's read by Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen.
Ohh, the Olsen twins are in the news this week as well.
They've got a big announcements for everybody. Yes, they're unhappy. They've got a big announcement for us on.
A fig announcement for are they they, yes. So are they going to be on on The Simpsons doing recorded books, some rules, some boundaries, some limitations from the Olsen twins. There's lots of rules that I've discovered since I've hit my 40s, you know. Well, I say hit my 40s. I'm nearly.
Some rules. They're putting some. Putting some rules out there for us, yes. We've been annoying them. They've got some rules, yeah. You hit your 40s a long time ago.
I'm rapidly approaching 50, but there are a lot of memes about being 40 that I I really do identify with that probably.
Harder.
Even more so because I feel like I'm a young 50 and I'm not. Well, I'm not 50 yet. I'm 47, but I feel like I'm a young 50.
You behave like a young.
50 You are young, 40.
Do I? Right. So well, I think I think any man who's, you know, been born in the 70s who hasn't had to endure a war in the same way that probably.
I don't know.
Our parents and grandparents did our oldest big fat children, but anyway, things that I identify with in my thought, it's like when you don't want to get up and pee. Because you're comfy, but you can't sleep because you gotta pee.
Ohh do you do that thing where you're like, you keep one eye closed when you go to the toilet cause you think if I keep one?
All the time.
Eye. Closed. That's gonna help me get back to sleep faster because you don't wanna. You don't wanna unsleep yourself. You're like, I'm gonna walk really quietly, really slowly. One eye closed. I'm still half asleep. So when I get back to bed.
Yeah. No, no, no.
You gonna fall?
I I don't. I don't do it for that reason. There's a very practical reason to do that, though. It's very sensitive, comes from experience. That's right. So that my night vision isn't completely impaired when I walk back to the bed.
Never works. Oh. So the light when you turn the light on, isn't it? Is that why you do it? I do it just. To stay asleep.
You know, it's cause my toes don't have eyes and when they hit things it really. Hurts. What about? You welcome to your 40s if you do not already have a mysterious ailment, you will be assigned 1 short.
Ohh I've had a call to you for a while. I don't. Know what that is?
Welcome to your 40s.
I've got random lumps too in my finger. Got a random finger lump, but I was told it's fine. You can just. I can just live with it.
Yeah, that's, yeah, it's OK. But that's there's one of the ailments, right? Well into your 40s. Sleeping hurts. Yeah. You read that right? Sleeping hurts.
Singalong good luck. Ohh yeah, my hips hurts my sleep.
They don't lie either, apparently, especially in your 40s. Welcome to your 40s when you pull a muscle in your back, cutting your toenails. All of these things.
Or changing lanes. I do that changing lanes.
The walk of Shame is now being the last house to roll your trash cans back in from the curb.
Ohh, they can just stay.
Up for next week? No. I hate it when people do that. That's just an invitation to burglars. You're not me. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's all full on, and I think I've reached critical mass smell because.
I think. Well. Peak 40s. Why?
Well, peak late 40s, almost early 50s, because I have joined a volunteer organisation.
Why? What have you done?
You're volunteering.
I don't have time to join a volunteer organisation, but I am volunteering and it is for a worthwhile cause and I.
You're volunteering? Wow.
I hope you get a cloth.
Pad.
I don't want to say too.
Much. Well, you don't want to ruin your chance of. Volunteering cause I don't think it's.
No, no, I don't. And I have to go through extensive training. So once I complete the training and I'm successful, I may reveal and I you know what?
A fish shift so they're to mouth off early.
Yeah.
Then you can reveal, yeah.
I reckon I reckon I'll be able to reveal that before Jakwan gets back to your SMS, which if you haven't been listening, if you haven't been listening. Mel's been trying to hear from Jake Horn for quite a few weeks now. You should go back and listen to some.
You're probably right, probably right.
Of the other episodes, there are hoots. Let's do the Hatch match. Dispatch clue. What is that? First timers may be asking.
Well, OK, hatch match dispatch is what my parents and a lot of people's parents call the our birth deaths and marriages and the newspaper. So we play a grab of a celebrity who was born who's having a birthday.
MHM.
Who got married? Who got divorced, who dies, and you have to guess who it is. Allah's Entertainment Tonight as played fantastically.
Yes. Hence the.
On the recorder by myself, it's me. So we buy it. And the idea. Thank you. Ohh yeah. I like to flange flange on the ********* and the idea is you hear this grab and you think ohh.
Yeah, that was covered by Mel on the recorder. It's. Beautiful. It's very well. Done. Good production too. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks.
Oh, tip of my tongue. I know who that is, but you don't actually know who it is. You can't remember. So then you gotta listen to the whole bloody show to find.
Yes.
Out.
Yeah, it's an old trick. Or you could just.
Keep listening, TSL time spent less, don't Fast forward. Listen to the.
Pass forward, yeah. No, it's it's worth it. It's definitely worth hanging around. And here is the celebrity who was having a birthday that said this.
Whole thing, keep our stats up.
If you can't get that, I don't want to know yet one more time.
Ohh.
It's.
Wow, there you go.
Ah, that just brings me so much joy.
We'll find out who that is at the. End of the show. Over to the news now and on the 16th of April. I know we were talking about Nicola Shay and Jessica Simpson doing their variety show, but. President George W Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair also had their little variety show this week as.
Well, hanging out together at the White House in what are the gardens?
Yes, they had a joint press conference.
Special garden.
Yes, where they were signalling their support for the UN and proposals to create an interim Iraqi government with George Bush calling it broadly acceptable to the Iraqi.
People, and I think the official press release was something like Bush and Blair update us on Iraq. That was kind of the the premise. They're telling us what's going on. And I think they probably needed to say something.
Yes.
Because we had the 9/11 Commission last week with Condoleezza Rice talking about her version of events.
Hmm.
We had the UN weapons inspector a few months ago talking about no WMD, so I think they kind of felt.
Yeah.
Well, casualties are on the rise. We've had all this stuff in Fallujah with the contractors. People are asking questions. People are asking questions, and what better way to answer those questions than to hold a joint press conference now.
Like we gotta.
Yes, that's right. It's a lot going on. So we've probably got to address it.
The White House website has audio for this for this, yes, but there's.
And video both options which we tried to download.
And I'm wondering if it's because they also are onto our search history where we were Googling ammonium nitrate. Anyway, we can't.
Ohh medium night shots. I wondered why it wouldn't work. Maybe that is why.
And again, if you're wondering why we're talking about ammonium nitrate, go and have a listen to last week's. Episode in case you missed it. But I'm wondering if that's why the videos will block. So what we'll do, and apologies in advance for this, but what we will.
Maybe they're tracking us.
Do is do a dramatic recreation of the press conference, so I am going to attempt and there and look the only difference is is one will sound maybe American and the other one will sound slightly English. I'm going to attempt to be Blair and Bush.
Array telling array announcements. You're gonna be. You're gonna be both.
And you can be the press.
OK, fantastic. OK, well, you. You started off well. Bush started off talking without the press. Press comes in later. So I'm just gonna have a little. Nap until my part.
OK. Comes off. Off we go.
You ready? Since our two countries shared the loss of September the 11th, 2001, we joined a global manhunt for terrorist killers. The stakes in Iraq are clear and juicy and medium rare. Sorry, I've got distracted. Iraq will either turn back the challenges to democracy or return to the camp of tyranny and terror. That does not sound like somewhere that I would like to came. Thank you very much. Mr. President, George and Laura, thank you very much for welcoming myself and Cherie back to the White House. We love what you've done with the. I especially liked the way you folded the towels into little swamps in the guest rooms for many years. That particularly most recently since September the 11th. Our two countries have been friends and allies standing side by side, and we will continue to do so. That doesn't make sense, but that's what it says in the transcript. It was never going to be easy and it. Now.
Good Lord, this is just going on for too much. I think we just skipped to the process.
Maybe paraphrase to his last. Couple of sentences I think.
Strategy strategy 1/2.
Step One, Step 2, Step 3, go step across to Step 5.
Step five, we're Step 5.
The 5th the UN will have a central role.
The UN will have a central role any.
Questions. Ohh yes, excuse me, I have a question. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. President. Mr. President, did you ask Secretary Rumsfeld to draw up war plans against Iraq in November 2001? Just as the military action was getting underway in Afghanistan? Why couldn't Iraq wait? And Mr. Prime Minister?
I noticed your voice. I think you sound like that host to that podcast that I love very much at T -. 20. I'm very happy to answer your question. No, I thought one question to peace. Not one question or one question. It's, you know, I can't remember exact dates that far back. I do know this that at a key meeting at Camp David, the subject of Iraq, this was on September the.
15th.
15th we had been attacked on September the 11th. Obviously on the 15th we sat down. I sat down with our national security team. To discuss the response we had smores we played, you know, the subject of Iraq came up and I said as plainly as I possibly could. We'll focus on Afghanistan. That's where we'll focus. I explained this to the Prime Minister as well. In the subsequent meeting that was about the 20th of September, I think we came and we talked about the response we were going to take in dealing with the attacks. Run our country so I don't remember. In times of what was being developed or not being developed, I remember the SMORES. Were really good. But I do know that it was Afghanistan that was on my mind, etcetera, etcetera.
Yes, but I was asking you about November.
I can't remember November. I'd have to get back to you about a specific moment, but I can tell you in September I said, oh, we oh dancing in September. Oh, we oh, let's focus on Afghanistan. Party dancing in September.
Sorry. Oh, I embellished a little bit, but not much. That was pretty much verbatim.
So.
Well, yeah, I can't remember. Was legit and couldn't remember the exact dates, couldn't remember.
Yes.
The subject of Iraq.
You can't really front up to a press conference and talk about not remembering, and I feel like Tony was like smoke and mirrors. Like look, it's Tony Blair. Hello everybody.
Not. Yeah.
Hmm.
I've got a friend over, so you can't be mean to me right now. You've gotta be nice cause I've got a we've got company. Let's use our best manners. Exactly. It is again interesting that the line of questioning was around Iraq. Obviously talking about Condoleezza Rice last week and all the questions around.
Yes, exactly, exactly. Yes.
And well, when did you decide you were going to go into Iraq? Whose idea was that? And he's still again sort of telling that, well, we were only talking about Afghanistan line.
Well, that's what they were all doing. That was the message that Condoleezza Rice was hammering.
Hmm.
Must have had some talking points.
Home. I think that all the at the at the very least, they were all reading off the same. Talking points.
Hmm.
You'll enjoy this one, mate, let's.
Go to cricket. No, I'm not gonna. But I do. I do remember Brian Lara. I do have to do have to acknowledge that cause he was quite the legend, wasn't he?
Enjoy it.
Yeah.
Very famous West Indian cricketer he.
I think. Was. Really told from memory.
He was a fantastic batsman. That's what I remember about him and he smashed the highest individual score in a test innings with 400 not out.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that is a lot.
399 Brian Lara on strike there goes the suite. There it is.
Perhaps the most significant single ever in the history of Test match cricket, Brian Charles Lara becomes the first man in the history of the game to register a score of 400.
That took 773 minutes, 582 balls. That's a lot of balls.
Ohh my gosh.
In a drawn force test against England in Antigua, so it's bittersweet because they drew.
773 minutes.
Yes, and the match was a draw. It's Test match cricket takes a long time it.
That's why I hate cricket. I just do not have the attention span 773 minutes. I don't even know how many hours that is, but that sounds.
Takes a long time. Ohh.
Like a lot of hours.
It is a lot, you know, I just I I think about it in the term of video cassettes. Remember back in the day.
Too many. Too many require.
So you'd get video cassettes and I knew that E 180 equaled 3 hours.
Ohh well I. Think in terms of audio cassettes SA 90 hour and a half. That's more than enough.
Yeah, which is an hour and a half. So 770 is a lot of three hour video cassettes. If you were taping, if you were taping the cricket, you'd have to come home and change it over a couple of times. You could.
Hmm.
If you were. It.
You'd have to have.
You'd end up having to tape over other things, putting the sticky tape over the wedding videos you'd run out of tapes.
Just put it on the timer. You certainly was, but that was a big deal. 400 on you, Brian, 400. Well done, Brian.
But what? Yeah, look good. Yes.
Yeah.
Alright, crickets out of the way, over to your area of expertise, Mel. Music in particular. Pop music. Your pop music is definitely your wheelhouse, as opposed to mine. But I I feel like.
My wheel house, my wheelhouse. Music 2000 to 2002. Also rap music of the 90s.
I feel like I'm embracing I'm. I'm coming to the party.
Hmm.
I like that you now like Ludacris.
I'm a reasonably active participant.
I like that you enjoy Ludacris.
I do enjoy Ludacris.
And $0.50.
I especially like the song move. Get out of the. Me and get back, ************. You don't know me like that. Yeah, I can relate to that. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe. I know quite the BOP.
Uh-huh.
In Australia, Amon is still #1.
What I said.
The present.
I don't want you back. Look what I said.
Once again, I know we spoke about Condoleezza Rice doing that last week. George Bush should have done it at the.
What I said it don't mean **** now.
When he asked him what happened in November.
Here's Tony Blair. We invited him out. Call your questions. They don't mean Jack. You, you hoe. We're still in Iraq.
I really hope that anyone stays at #1 for a while, cause I just know the effort you. Went to bleeping all. Those swears, and that took a long time. We should mate.
I know it was difficult, but I feel like that last little bit probably made it worthwhile though, so that's actually.
Yes, we could rotate it with the Dutch one maybe as well. I loved the Dutch.
Sure.
One apartment Song, 5 colours in her hair. By it was McFly, wasn't it? Still #1. In the UK.
Hello. Yeah, it was.
You don't wanna apply that. I'm just angry because I have friends.
Ohh I suppose I can. I hate it. It's terrible alright.
With Buster, don't.
You.
She's just a loner with the sexy. I'd like to phone a kissy puts me in the mood.
Again, that's like Tony Blair.
I'm just the PM with the sexy attitude. George Bushy bang me because it put him in the mood.
No.
Oh, nice.
George Bush. He rang me cause my talking points were good.
Let's have a listen to the top five over in the states, please.
That's probably for the best.
Let it go.
If you're blaming me, keep it on the low.
3.
What? Everybody.
What? What?
Yes.
OK, alright, I.
Right, but it's.
Wrong. Stop.
Not by much. Not by much. You you go through the order and you point out the indiscretion, if you like.
Wow.
OK.
No, I'll blame it on the robot guy.
Yeah. No. Well, it's it's all me and I'm.
Sorry. Yeah. Asha still #1 tipsy.
Yeah. Yes, Jake, one that was fine. Nothing wrong with those two.
Uh, hang on, let me check.
What are the? SMS has he got back to us?
It's not an SMS, it's a a message. No, it's nothing has my. Yeah, it's a cameo message. It's only has my phone number.
Well, isn't that an SMS? Ohh it's a message via cameo messenger. Ohh I thought that it's still yeah. OK.
No, but there's still the offer to send him a sticker.
No.
No sticker, no for you, jakon.
No, he's not gonna sticker. You wouldn't get a sticker. He didn't do anything. You only get stickers.
Ohh.
For doing well.
You need to say is hi God, so rude.
Yeah. OK. So, so yeah. And tipsy are in the correct order.
Yes, and this is. This is where you're cocked up. I don't wanna know. Is #3. You said it was #4.
Hmm.
Yeah.
One call away Chingy's number 4. You said it was #3.
Yes. Yeah. So, well, maybe I just wanted to give Chingy a little bit.
More he's on his way out. Sorry. So.
Umm my baby.
Burn by Asher #5 has now entered the charts from his new albums, and now he has two and NO22 songs in the top.
Burn. Yes.
5.
Yes, it's his homage to gonorrhoea.
And I did promise that I'd talk about. I don't wanna know this week because I didn't have enough space last week, we.
Right, OK. I don't wanna know. So who's that by?
Start with that. Mario Winans, so Winans Wayans.
Mario. Let's just call him Mario. It's for me.
Anne.
No, because. Because you're getting confused with that. You say I'm just a friend, Mario, that we didn't like last year or the year before that last year or.
I've completely forgotten about that your emails, to be honest. Alright, OK, sure. Mm-hmm.
That year before.
We need to differentiate him from that Mario. Different Mario, OK? Mario winans. Winans. Why ants?
Not the plumber. Yeah. OK.
No featuring P Diddy and Enya.
Really. Feet Enya. So here's the song. His song.
Yeah.
I don't wanna know if you're blaming me. Keep it on the low. Because my heart. If you're creeping. Please don't. Ohh baby, I don't know.
It's also featuring the loudest king kick drum I've ever heard.
Him. I really like that song.
Do you?
It's the reason it's featuring Enya is because it's sampled the synth riff from her song Boadicea.
Codicia bodya by Enya.
You.
I don't want to know.
I can hear that. Yeah. And then they just put that big annoying kick drum over the top of it. I don't know what happened to you then. Did you, like, blew out?
Good.
A tyre it was just had a turn. Just a moment.
Yes, OK. OK, sure.
I was trying to be a kick drum.
Yeah, well, the. The the difference between you and the kick drum is the kick drum is actually in time and you just sounded like a blown tyre.
So.
It spent 8 consecutive weeks at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 because.
Yeah.
Umm.
So yeah. Yeah. Reached number one in Germany though, did it? Yes, half listener, if you're listening. Did you like this song? It was #1.
Oh yeah, I loved it.
Good number one in the Netherlands and in the UK.
They're like, oh, yeah, I loved.
It.
What?
Else has seemed to only do one exit anyway.
Similar when when I was listening to it today I thought, oh, that doesn't feel like 20 years ago. I say this a lot. That doesn't feel like 20. Years ago, there's reason why it doesn't. There's a reason why it doesn't feel like 20 years ago, because in 2022, and I think this is what I was thinking of, the weekend released a remake called Creepin with 21.
We all say that.
What?
1. Ohh.
Savage is this, but this sounds.
Very similar, if not exactly the same, right.
I don't wanna know if you're playing me. Keep it on the cause. My heart can't take it anymore. And if you creeping, please don't let it.
Well, he's dialled back the kick drum and introduced a high hat.
With a souped up 10 pipe? No, it's not dangerous. Disappointing.
It's not a souped up tempo, it's quite a it's quite a slow tempo, but he's definitely changed it up a little bit.
That's the weekend singing, but I think they did use Mario in backup vocals, so Mario was still in there somewhere. Did he popped up somehow as well?
Yeah. Well, I can see how it's created that effect on you where you thought, yes.
Yeah, cause I thought. Oh, that doesn't feel like 20 years ago, but it was because I was listening to the weekend cause the week. I don't know. I listened to one weekend song and then they all just pop up in my running playlist all the time. It's just everywhere. The weekend, isn't he?
Yeah. Did you? He was in uncut jams, was he? Did you know that? You see him in uncut jams?
I didn't want. I fell asleep. And uncle Jones.
That's great. There's it. What's the? Yeah. Yeah. Adam Sandler's mistress is like, is like, you know, not quite getting it on with him and cheating on Adam Sandler in it. But there's a a a bit where Adam Sanders, like, uh, go on the weekend. That was really.
Was he was English.
I. The weekends.
Honey.
That is funny.
Yeah.
He sung, you know the song blinding lights doesn't. I was running to that one day. And when you run on your Apple Watch, there's a little guy that runs. Have you seen that?
Yes. Yes. Yes, I've seen guy. The little, yeah.
The little running guy and the little running guy runs in perfect time to blinding lights by the weekend. Yes, I put it on my socials and I tagged the weekend cause it wanted him to know and he didn't reply.
Is that right? Wow. I saw Chris Jericho covering that song on a cruise and fancy in fancy dress as David Bowie.
Singing the weekend.
And you know what?
Dressed as David Bowie singing the weekend.
Yep, and none of it. It was not a good time. It was not a good.
Is. A good feat.
Time does sound good. Was dreadful.
Yeah. Why would you dress as David? Bowie to sing the weekend.
Ohh look, I don't know. It was a cruise. We need things. Weird things happen at sea, Mel. You know where they say like you know how they say worse things happen at.
Who knows what happens on cruises? Yeah. Yes, I know.
See that is an example of the worst things that happen at sea.
Ohh well I thought.
That was that. Saying was about the Titanic.
Well, yes, it probably is, but it's also about Chris Jericho dressed as David Bowie singing the weekend, yes.
Weekends.
I do want to say it now. Curious. Excellent. We did have another entry burn by usher. The second single from his confessions album.
Yeah, I'll show you later. Yep.
For sure.
Too many days, so many hours. I'm still burning.
Let it go.
When you harmonise that much with yourself.
With yourself?
Yes. Does that make you aware? It's a bit wanky, isn't it? It's just a bit masturbatory.
It's a bit up yourself, isn't it? It is, it is.
Bit show boaty.
HM harmonising with yourself?
Well, we know he's handsy, so you know it's the next step.
He's very handsy, you know. And if that's the case, I I wouldn't want to clean up the vocal booth, so.
Sorry, ohh sorry.
Ursher.
So downtempo track about the breakup of a relationship?
Yeah, but that's.
Well, we had the big one with with yeah. And then he's he's dialled it back to a ballad, right.
Burn Burn was meant to be the first song was meant to be the first release from the confessions album, but yeah, tested well tested well in the.
Really.
Right.
Focus groups, so they went.
Makes sense. Look at how well it's doing in. The charts.
Let's just go with that. Hey, yeah, burn is considered to be one of his signature hits, which I I don't when I think usher, I don't think burn really no.
You think? Yeah. No. What do you think when you think usher I.
Think of all the.
You think, geez, that guy's harmonising with himself a.
Lot and he's very handy I think about. I actually think about his cringe songs. I think about you turn you turn and poppy colour.
Hair on the palm of your hands. If you pick them. He'll go blind. Ohh. Poppy colour. It was that a song that he did?
Colby colour. Yes. And you make me wanna like his original. Like OG, I think of that. But burns not one that is top of mind. When when someone says to me usher. I don't think about burn. I think about. Yeah. Hmm. And that one, what was that one about the night? Dancy and Cynthia ANS.
I love it when you ask me these questions.
DJ's got us something. Alright, baby.
Ohh tonight DJ's got us falling in love again. How? How?
That yes.
Did ohh wow. Don't prompt him. Don't prompt me in this. Do not prompt me in the situations where.
Can you harmonise with yourself? Can you can you do your own backup from that? That's good. Can you impose put a little bit harmonising behind it is good.
No.
So burn, yes, topped the charts. Signature hit. I think it was 8 consecutive weeks #1 on the Billboard.
M.
Replacing. Yeah. So he had #1.
Always put these spoilers in. We don't even need to do the charts for the. Next eight weeks now? Well, I'm just letting everyone.
Know it's gonna be boring.
Well, and you know, who knows? I might get it wrong too. So OK. Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, the robot might **** it up. A certified platinum in Australia, the US gold in New Zealand. It was rumoured that this song.
Beat gold in New Zealand. The Kiwis weren't down with burn.
No, they preferred, yeah.
They weren't like, but yeah, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was speculation, so he had broken up, so he was going steady with chilli from TLC.
I thought you were gonna say Chingy. No. I thought Chingy was, like, ushers my baby. No. Wow.
Chilly. You know chilli from TLC.
Chilli chilli from TLC. OK, the CC and TLC chilli. Yeah, OK.
The say entail say.
So.
Hmm. They were going steady. They were quite the couple.
Don't know a lot about TLC.
I think he even. Don't go chasing waterfalls.
Well, I know that like everyone knows that, but I don't know. You're the expert, so.
I don't want my scrubs.
Lisa left Eye Lopez and the. You know the tragedy that happened a few.
I'll stop interrupting and you continue to fill us in, yes.
Years.
Ago. Well, shut up.
He they were going steady. I think he may have even proposed to her. It was a serious relationship and they ended up breaking up, I think late 2003, maybe early 2004. Yeah. Word on the street was that burn was about her. Really. Because it and it dealt with infidelity. And so everyone was like ohh my gosh, is that what happened then after the album was released, he said, oh, sorry everyone. I did say this is going to be a personal album. But you know what? These are just different scenarios that played out in my mind. So it wasn't about.
Ohh, he wasn't like. Ohh really while I was harmonising with myself.
Me at all.
I was harmonising with myself and getting handsy wasn't actually about my break up with chilli, but then I think it came out later that I think he cheated on her actually.
Yeah, yeah. That doesn't surprise me. I mean, he's got girls all up on him screaming. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andy, he's handsy. Yes, he's very handsy. So that's what happened.
It's been just an absolute cornucopia of. Comment and it continues as we go to the box.
Office. Well, it's a bit boring to start with because passion of the Christ is back. Number one on the.
That's. Yeah, that's you can't really call that.
List.
You know, I went back and revisited the passion of the Christ, you know, I.
No. Told you I liked it. Did you watch it again? When?
Yeah, it's, it's difficult. It's not a good thing. It's a it's, it's, it's.
No, no. Well, we we know what happened in the Bible.
It's just very difficult and graphic and yet still. Well, I don't know. Anyway. So that's number one still at the box office as we move across eastern.
Well, it's well, it was something. It was Hellboy last week, but it's come back. Yeah, I guess it came back for Easter. Surprise. I'm back.
Hmm.
That's what Jesus does at Easter, yeah.
Guess who's back back again? She's.
Back it's a rollback. The rock weekend, yeah.
Starsky and Hutch still #1 here at the Australian box office.
Very disappointing, yeah.
We have some news, though. The Olsen twins were. Yes, they were ****** *** with everybody this week.
Yeah, it's fantastics were. You mean these Olsen twins?
The harpooned Hart. Hmm. And tape. It's read by Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen.
The harpooned heart by Marge Simpson. You're in Margate, though once was a girl from Nantucket. Her name was temperance sparrows, and her heart was heavy with feeling. Take it, Ashley. Temperance was trapped in a loveless marriage. Bummer. I didn't know people were sad in the past.
They were anyway. What? What are? What's what's the big news with the Olsen twins?
So the TV Titans turned NYU students, who also run a multimillion dollar company, were annoyed because they kept being referred to as the Olsen. Twins.
Oh, instead of Mary Kate and Ashley.
Instead of their individual names. This is around the time I think they brought out a clothing line. They had magazines and and everything was Mary, Kate and Ashley. So they were. They were.
Ohh so it's a brand name because I was gonna say it's like there's still a package deal. They're the Olsen twins, Mary Kate and Ashley. They're in everything. Yeah. You can't? No, they're not.
Another gist. They're kind. They're trying to be their own people. They're 17 at this stage, and their publicist said they don't think it's too much to ask for people to use their individual names. They've never been known professionally as the Olsen twins. The name of their brand is Mary Kate and Ashley. The The Olsen twins is just the media being lazy.
I get it. I'd be ****** if I was bundled in with my sibling, but they are the the Olsen twins are a different kettle of fish. They're a package deal. They're $1,000,000, multi $1,000,000. Company like you're saying and. I mean, yeah, they they might not have been known professionally as the Olsen twins and the name of their. Brand is that I mean, but. Does it really matter as long as people are talking?
About them, I think when they're on full house too, they were known as the full House twins because they played.
Although known as Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen because they're in the credits as.
They were. That they were, was it? Shell is that who? They were you.
Got it, dude. Yeah.
But a lot of people didn't know that they were twins, and then they called the full house twins and then it just moved on to the Olsen twins. But now they're like, well, no, that's the name of our our brand is our name. So can you?
Please use say my name. OK, fair enough. And it's not like they're separating because they have that movie that came out. Later this year, which I'll play the. Trailer from the New York minute. One do you? Remember this? Yes.
The names Lomax, Nassau County Department of Truancy. Both parties over Flubber grab a. Towel. I'm on the heels of New York's number. One truant thank you, New York City. Roxanne Ryan.
Three weeks into school and you haven't cut once.
Haven't cut once my Aunt *****. She's trouble and she knows it. So does her sister.
Jane Ryan, my name is.
A dead ringer.
I am this close to winning the four year scholarship to Oxford University. Stay away from me.
Well, today I'm taking her down. Where can I find Roxanne?
Yeah. So that that actually comes out next month. So we'll get to play that all over again, I I mean. Fantastic. I think they've done pretty well for themselves given the fact that the thing that they're most famous for really is playing Michelle on full house. I think their sister.
Full. It's good show, good show.
Elizabeth is, of course, Scarlet Witch in the in the Marvel films.
Hmm.
There's a bit of pedigree there. There are Trail Blazers for the rest of the family anyway.
Well, their publicist said. We've asked people as nicely as we can to refer to them by their names, and hopefully people will do.
The right thing. So it's a big problem, very big problem.
Alright. And and here we are on the podcast 20 years later, referring to them as the Olsen twins. So that's.
Well done, Mary Kate.
And Ashley. OK, well, you. Yes, tomato, tomato. Let's go to the 11th of April when we get into some good old wholesome variety television.
I want to hate this, but I don't.
Ladies and gentlemen. Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson.
Hey, everybody and welcome to our very first variety show.
You guys are probably thinking we're gonna do a lot of singing and dancing, but that's where you're wrong.
You know what? They did heaps of singing and dancing, by the way. Spoiler Alert, I don't hate it either, and I think the reason why is there's something very comforting in a good old fashioned TV variety show where people are performing live on TV in front of a studio audience. You know, I think that there was probably.
Hear their lies, liar Nicholas Shay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Piped in applause and stuff. But there was an audience there going crazy as well, and it it it is a throwback and like we used to have it in Australia, I used to like, like even, hey, hey, it's Saturday. I know it hasn't aged well. New faces, things like that, shows like that.
So chance that they might **** it up. No.
Right. And and even in America, you had the Sonny and Cher show, Rowan and Martin's laughing. Oh my God, I love that show. I loved laughing. It was awesome. Sock it to me. Sock it to me, sock.
And I think. Was meant.
Be.
It to me it was great. This is meant to be a throwback to. Both of those two shows.
Yeah. And I think that those two guys, Nick and Jessica, in spite of I know guys and whatever you wanna call them, it's a.
The guys, the two. The cup.
Celebrity club.
I'm I'm let's not get into pronouns. OK, but those two were. And in spite of how it hasn't aged well and we know that he was kind of mean to her and all of that sort of stuff. And I wonder if they're gonna play up characters. No, I don't like him either. I do like her, though, quite a lot for lots of reasons.
I still don't like him. Hmm.
So talent probably.
I like her too, probably for different reasons.
Yes, but reasons and reasons are good, but like they are probably the perfect people to do this because it was kind of hot.
Recently called.
Some.
And I think we watched, remember they hosted some MTV Awards and they were so bad and there was all those Smarty jokes and it just was awkward and uncomfortable. I was thinking this would be like that. So I was getting ready to hate on it. Like, this was actually really good and a little bit funny.
Thou terrible. They thanked, yes. Bad writing, but this is wholesome. Look. I think it was helped a lot by the guests. I think it was helped by the guests and like when you put Kenny Rogers and The Muppets on a variety show, you are onto a winner. Yeah, exactly. See exactly like.
Yeah. Yes, and Mr. T Mr. T showed up as well. How could you lose?
That is, they are like variety TV show gold, and I think The Muppets like they were singing a song. And then there was another song being sung backstage and Kermit and Miss Piggy were singing the Elton John and Kiki Dee duet. Don't go breaking my heart, which is wonderful. And then they were doing their own special. And then they had. Happy. Remember Pepe the king prawn? That character is muffins. Relatively new Muppet for anyone who was a Muppet person from the 70s.
Yes.
Pepe the King Prawn introduced a little bit later, but you get it, and then Jessica Simpson did a duet with Jewel of who will save your soul and I because the thing with Jessica Simpson is she can sing.
She can really sing.
She's got a great voice, but she over sings a lot live and she looks like she's she.
Looks like she's in pain when she sings.
She said she's giving birth.
She looks uncomfortable. Yeah, it doesn't look.
Yeah, it's. There's a lot going into delivering the lyrics past the vocal chords. Yes, and but.
Like a good time.
Yes, like delivering a baby.
This was good.
When it comes to you, save your soul. After all those lies. Who will save your soul if you won't save your?
That was a high point, I think in the variety hour. Yes, I really think it was, but there there was a low point.
Yes. Is it another duet? Duet involve. Stay out of it, Nicolai shades.
Yeah, it is true. It certainly did, and it also involved kit the car from Knight Rider. He did a song with kit, the car from Knight Rider.
And that's the two of us, you and I.
Why are you singing with a car?
This is not just a car, just this.
Is kit. Hello, Jessica. Thank you for having me on your. Special.
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Nick, get the. Car out of here.
No, I invited him. He's a guest.
He's not my guest.
Maybe I should go?
No kid, you did nothing wrong. Jessica just doesn't understand.
Nick, who cares about a car?
We have the whole rest of the show to.
Do.
Kid, are you crying?
No, Nick, that's just my fan belt fluid leaking.
Kit, there is no such thing as fan belt fluid. What's going on?
It's just seeing you two argue reminds me of when my parents got divorced.
I.
I'm actually on Nick's side there.
That was that was pretty cringe. That was pretty cringe. That is the, you know. Do you know when you listen back to that?
She's very mean to kiss.
Are actually taking the exercise.
The only difference between them and The Muppets is that they don't actually have human arms. Up there *****. But it's pretty similar to the Muppet Show. It is basically the Muppet show.
There was. There was another scene at. Which and and. Particularly after the release. Of Brittany's book, and what we've all been talking about with Justin. There's a scene where she gets to relive what it would have been like if she was in. The Mickey Mouse.
She never was right.
Club she never was, so this was a bit of a dig at all of the other fox stars of the time that were mousketeers.
Wow.
Now.
Y OU.
That's what I'm talking about. And your heels, Master Chief.
Oh, what's wrong, beautiful, I thought.
Words can't bring you down.
Hold it, girl.
Well, I got a gal up and little Tina. 'S grill because it's my fantasy and I can do whatever.
I want, but we're just a bunch of nine year.
Olds, yo. Oh. Cry me a river, tiny JT. That's wet. I'm not feeling that for reals. OK, you're from Memphis. Stop it with the gangster talk.
That is pretty funny. It's very ******, too.
But she also called out his black accent years before Britney's book. That's amazing. That's amazing. But it's also pretty ballsy to take them all on like that.
Yes, that is pretty. Ohh yeah, I mean it's pretty.
In a variety hour, the comforting variety hour she started to fight with all the mousketeers.
Like like when when? When I say it's comforting and it's wholesome and and I'm OK and I I wanna hate it. I don't wanna hate on it and I don't wanna hate on it because I just it's just so.
But you're there for the butchy.
Inoffensive that I'd find myself putting it on on a Sunday afternoon after being completely exhausted from doing whatever else and not caring about anything. And I think that's the time where you need to watch that when you yet don't have a care in the world because you can't care about that. If you care about getting a copy of it, though, I think and and like. For starters, it's on YouTube, so you can watch it on YouTube. But if you really want like a rock solid.
Hmm. Physical copy, David.
If you wanna put a bit of Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey in your hands, like somebody operating a Muppet. You can find.
It, yes, it's on eBay.
Yeah. How much?
There is a copy for $6.63 Australian.
I think I'd press the make it offer button. I'll do it for 3 bucks. I I feel like after the. Nick and Jessica variety hour. There is no place for literature in this episode.
No need to bring things back. Up we're on the.
OK.
Non fiction New York Times bestsellers this week, actually.
Really. Yes, this is the part where we talk about books. If the music didn't.
Give it away because it sounded so bookish. We.
Denise.
Can just pages to listen. So this page is being turned.
That just sounds like someone just going.
OK, but their fingers?
It's not the secret sound like.
Sounds like someone being handsy stasher. It's just gusher. Being handsy. Yeah, in the background.
If you talk about burning with books, then that takes it to a whole new level.
No, I did not say that. But we are going to non fiction cause fiction I think is Da Vinci Code again boring. So we're going non fiction and and.
Yeah, well. Alright.
This is this. Is a story called against all enemies colon. Inside America's War on Terror by former US chief counter terrorism adviser Richard A Clarke, AKA **** Clarke.
Yes. Who was the one that Condoleezza Rice was referring to?
She referenced him in her testimony. Yes. So he he's basically criticising past and present presidential administrations for the way they handled the war on terrorism.
Indeed. So. It really focuses on George W Bush, this book, and we're not going to do, like, a funny synopsis this week cause it just, I don't think it's non fiction. Just doesn't doesn't work with non fiction. But the most disturbing of all **** Clark's revelations about the Bush administration's lack of interest in al Qaeda.
Probably not.
Hmm.
Before September 11, from the moment the Bush team took office and decided to retain Clarke in his post as a counterterrorism czar, Dick Clark tried to persuade them to take al Qaeda as seriously. As Bill Clinton did in his administration. So for months, Dick Clark was denied the opportunity to even go and brief the president on this. He wasn't. He didn't have a chance to even speak to him about it. So you know, they were pretty bitter about the whole thing. He was pretty bitter.
Hmm.
About it like because they didn't. He's like they didn't listen to me. The title comes from the oath of office taken by all U.S. Federal officials, except the president, in which they promised to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And I think the interesting thing that came to light with this around the time that the book was released was they actually found **** **** Clark had lied Underoath.
Really. Yes, that's a bit shocking. What about?
Yeah. So I'm not sure what about exactly, but it did kind of undermine the release of the book. But look, it was still number one on the bestseller list and we've, we've got the reviews.
Well, of course it's intriguing. I mean, this is the guy that's. You know, informing a lot of the questions that are happening at the 9/11 was the Commission, is that what it was called? Yes, yeah. That Condoleezza Rice was doing her testimony like last week. So. And then, you know, they've had this press conference this week to kind of squash some of the speculation. To try and silence some of the critics and then these books out as well. Of course, it's topping the list because it's top of mind for everyone. I mean, I know that the Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson variety hour is a big deal, but this is a little bit bigger.
And then this book tops the list. Yeah.
It. It is.
Yes, let's start with Don. One star. I find it amusing that so many reviews use the word truth in their headlines to describe this book. Didn't OJ Simpson write a book about his version of the truth?
OK.
Perhaps OJ Simpson can be included in that CBS miniseries as well, and Robert Blake and Michael Jackson. Two perhaps pro wrestler Rick Flair can portray Howard Dean and do that? Woo woo? Yeah, this book is an obvious attempt to take away from the heroic and patriotic efforts of our leader. Prayers George W Bush.
Oh.
Yeah. Well, we clearly know where Don one star fits as far as.
Prince he's he's press. That's how close he is. Press touch.
But I mean, you know, putting, putting OJ Simpson up against it, or even Michael Jackson is like.
Hmm.
Bearing apples and murderers or.
But why bring Ric Flair into this?
Something else? Yeah.
What did Ric?
Flair ever do to you Don one star?
Thief, rich flare. Out of it. Yeah, Dave Poole. That's. DAV EPL all one word, two stars. We've all worked with this person. The guy where everyone he works with is an idiot. He's the only competent one in the office and all they had to do was ask him. He knew the answers, but they wouldn't listen. So I'm I'm. I'm suggesting that they're. That well, that is suggesting that there's a tone with this book, yes.
Hmm.
Eddie two stars. Way too many commas and appearances of the word feckless. Feckless. What does it mean?
I kind of like that word. Feckless. Hmm. Are you gonna make me work for this? One, aren't you?
Is it like being reckless?
Is that what it is? Feckless. Ohh OK.
I think I don't. I don't think so. Feckless is lacking initiative or strength of character. It's about it's irresponsible if you. Well. Yeah. OK, fair enough. But I'll accept that. I will accept that. What else have we got here?
Being reckless, isn't it? Then? OK, good. Someone by the. Name of motorcycle? Who gave it two stars? Motorcycle. Umm. Have you got motorcycles review there.
That's the that's their handle on good reads. That's their handle motorcycle. Motorcycle says he ******* a lot about Bush the second, which I always seem to enjoy. But it mostly just seems like sour grapes. I. Yeah, it probably does a little bit. I mean, this is this. These are reviews.
Like some ********.
I'm thinking that there's a lot of Bush supporters on Goodreads.
But also this. Guy, this guy was under the Clinton administration and Bush kept him on, so the perception.
Hmm. MHM.
Fears that he's aligned to the Democrat and that he's coming out and criticising Bush because he's a Democrat, not a Republican. And so he's just bitter and twisted about that. That's kind of the perception in a lot of these reviews that's that's what's coming through in the reviews.
So he's not gonna. Listen to him. OK.
33 stars still reading it? Why would you rather review if? You're still reading it, Craig? Why wouldn't you wait till you're done and? Then come back to good reads. Let's give you a review.
Maybe we'll push notifications a thing. Then you know how, like you buy something on eBay and it's like.
No.
Do you set a time or do you have to read it within a certain time if you're?
Please review your purchase. Yeah, I don't know.
A good reads. Person still reading it rack off. I'm still going.
It's it's like, so with Uber. Well.
Great.
Here's an example. I'm gonna cut that music. Here's an.
OK, good.
Example. So with Uber, right? Like you, you, you rate drivers and stuff, you know, five stars or whatever.
Don't they rate you back as well?
Yeah. So my rating on Uber.
That's dangerous.
Is and because I don't I don't subscribe to the whole review thing unless I have a bad experience of kind of one of those guys, you know, like only only ***** when I need a *****. Never. Really. Well, it's. Well, it's just thanks. It's the it's the service that's being put forward. Like if it's all going well and as advertised.
Yes. You only *****. Yeah. You never say anything nice about anyone because you're. Not. Maybe maybe it would be good of you. To write something nice.
If I have a really good experience, I will give them five stars on Uber.
Good. Thank you. Hmm.
I'm only 4.5 stars. I am not a.
What did you lose the? Point.
Five star customer.
What did you?
Lose the .5 for.
I feel like it's.
I reckon it's cause you're a talker because you always get in. You always get in the taxi or the Uber and you always make small talk like you can't help yourself. You just make small talk and I reckon someone is.
He just had to be gone.
Just like ohh can shut up.
I just wish there was a comment. Like does this. Would ever shut up, and it's like, no, I do a podcast, in fact.
You made this.
You need some feedback if someone's gonna knock you back .5, there needs to.
Be well now I'm just like.
A reason? If you need a, how does this affect your time in the house? You can't just give someone a bad score. So have you been thinking about this a lot? Does this keep you up at night?
Somebody got like, like halfway through the Uber journey, they give you 3 stars that like still driving him.
Do you think about it a lot? Do you wonder?
Yes, it's a problem. It's it bothers me a lot. It's like, what have I done to lose?
It's not like you're bombed in anyone's car. You you're not rude. You're well, you're not rude to like Uber drivers.
.5 of the Stars 9. I reckon it's just cause I don't review them. That's what I think. And and that's what helps me sleep at night.
I think you made too much small talk, but.
Please.
I think it's just small talk.
I I think it's because I don't review them and that's how I sleep at night. So don't don't rain on my parade, don't burst my bubble, don't do any of those things.
OK, still reading.
It.
And just like that, as I have this small crisis we have, we have reached the end of the podcast or close to it's the home stretch.
Minus 0.5 talks too much.
Lane. That's OK. It's still 4 hour styles. It's pretty good. Like I would eat something with a 4 1/2 star health rating, no? Folks, you know what I'm saying?
Would you get in an Uber with?
A 4 1/2 star rating.
Would you pick up a passenger with a 4 1/2 star rating? Is the question.
Maybe that will impact your rides in the future. That's probably why we got that smelly Camry that time. He's just a 4.5 he. Can go with the smelly camera.
I'm sending the bloke that smokes in his car. That'll sort him out. Yeah, yeah, the little trees.
With the little trees, God, they stink. We we know what's underneath that smell. God.
It's masking up the fact that you've got a body in the trunk. One star. Anyway, let's Speaking of hatches, matches and dispatches. Somebody's obviously been dispatched in the Buddha. That Uber let's let's do that. Let's do the hatches, matches and dispatcher segments. Some of it has been born. Had a birthday, died. Been married. Whatever.
Rating it.
A celebrity having a birthday this time around that said this. Get that? I don't make that my ringtone. It's pretty obvious.
It brings me so much joy.
He he's a funny guy. If you said Seth Rogen. You would be 100%.
Correct. He's having a birthday on the 15th of April. Canadian actor, comedian, filmmaker. He was originally a stand up comedian in Vancouver. He moved to LA to star in Judd Apatow series. Freaks and geeks in 99. And I got a part in the sitcom undeclared in 2001.
Also by Judd Apatow.
Something I didn't know. He was a writer on Dali G Show. I did not.
Is that right?
Know that he's a pretty talented guy. He's he's a bit of an all rounder. He's also been involved as a producer in the comic book series of the.
Hmm.
Of. Feature which is is very underground. Yes, he's involved in the boys as well, in spite of all the mainstream stuff, he still likes to dabble in a lot of things that he's interested in, from pop culture. As far as comic books and stuff like that. And I think that's because he smokes a lot of marijuana.
Preacher. Yeah, and the boys. He's admitted that.
Yes, yes.
Not over the years.
Did you know he was in Donnie? Darko.
Who was he in, Donnie Darko I.
I think I spotted him in there. It's very small role in Donnie Darko blinking you with him. He was also in the 40 year old Virgin very small role but he Co produced that. Yeah. And of course then there was knocked up.
Don't remember him in that. Yeah.
That we watch with my grandma.
That was not a good time either.
When she was crowning, I just wanted to disappear.
I could not, but I don't. Why did we think it was a good idea to watch knocked. I think your grandmother. How old was your grandmother at the time? Like 85?
Into the couch. That didn't. Didn't know that'd be. 80 something I didn't know they'd be bag. I didn't expect that you've.
Yeah, I forgot. I forgot.
You'd already seen it.
Yeah, we had. I hadn't. I picked.
So you've seen it and you picked that to watch with my grandmother, yeah. I didn't know you'd seen it. This changes everything. Sorry. Ohh my gosh. So many revelations tonight. That's why you got .5 off your Uber ride for recommending knocked up to an 80 year old.
Josh.
Well. I don't. Yeah. OK. I'm sorry about that.
God, you deserve that. You should be like, be three out of five now.
And knocked up was a fun movie. I don't know what 85 year old.
Ohh how did you?
People not remember that that was full that.
Well, I mean, she's LED a very long, full life. She's had lots of experiences. I'm sure she could handle it.
She did, actually, she.
Took it well, she did take it well.
If the truth be told, she took it surprisingly well. I think she fell asleep.
Very awkward. I think I was the most uncomfortable. He was also in Super Bad. Obviously Pineapple Express the green.
In it actually. Yes, yes, yes. Pineapple Express was wonderful green Hornet, not so much this in the end, not so much. And then we talked about all.
Hornet.
This is the end.
Those shows that he produced and stuff.
He's also a voice actor. Does a lot of voice acting Shrek.
Yeah, yeah, with I mean, with a voice like I can see. How?
They fit. Monsters versus Aliens Sausage Party was funny with him and the The Lion King I.
Yeah.
Thought he was.
A good fit, he was boomba boomba, yes.
I as good as pumba in the light, he's excellent as pumba in The Lion King.
I haven't seen Super Mario brothers, but you have. Was he good in that?
Yes, alright. My favourite one or one of my favourite ones was the one he was in with Charlize Theron. The one where he played the the speech writer for the president. What was it called? The long shot?
Ohh.
Yes. Yeah. So I don't know what it's called. That was good.
And I expected it to be garbage, but it was surprisingly fun and I really enjoyed it. It was just a nice, fun comedy film. Yeah, unlikely pairing romance between him and Charlize.
Yeah.
I liked that too.
That's right. And more recently though.
I think I think it's because it feels guys like me. Well, it it doesn't really fill me with hope because like, I'm the long shot. No, I mean, you're the long shot in our relationship.
It's that 4.5 rate.
Take it easy. At least that's not 22 out of 10 would not bang, you know.
I can't believe this. I can't. I can't believe 4.5. And you made my grandmother watch badge. I.
Just can we continue with the podcast, please? And we'll have the.
3.
I'm sorry, I'm shook.
Conversation offline.
Yeah, I know.
You shook the he's been in the news a lot. Well, not in the news, in the social medias, people have been having lots of opinions over the last few weeks because an old interview and some old tweets have resurfaced from, I don't know, five years ago or something where he talks about the fact that.
Yes.
He doesn't have kids.
But there's a whole huge thing I'm.
Oh.
Doing. Which is raising children. Some people want kids, some people don't. Kids, you know, a lot of people have kids before they even think about it. From what I've seen, honestly, you just are told. You go through life, you get married, you have kids. That's what happens. And me and my wife were just neither of us were like that, you know? And honestly, the older we get, the more happy and reaffirmed we are with our choice to not have kids.
Yeah, because he goes on to say that they're psyched all the time and they're laying in bed on Saturday morning smoking weed, watching movies naked. You can't. Do I tell you what, mate, you cannot. You cannot. Do that with kids.
He said. I don't know anyone who gets as much happiness as out of their kids as we get out of. Our non kids.
Because they are.
If we had.
Kids, we couldn't be ****** doing this.
Yeah.
Look, I. Yeah, I I like the fact that he's just so open about. It but people, people took issue. With it, people were offended.
Why? Because they've got kids. How dare you say that you don't want kids?
Are the most. Wonderful thing in my life and you know I love waking up on a Saturday morning. And hanging out, but it's.
Like.
Everybody, this is not a personal attack on you. This is his preference. That's how he wants to live. His his life with his wife. Good on him. But everybody just seemed to take.
Oh yeah mate.
That as a big.
Offence and like he was attacking them because they had.
Listen.
Kids like you know.
Speaking from experience, kids are not for everybody. They really aren't like it. You gotta be in a you they are. And it's and look, don't get me wrong, it's wonderful. But they're not for everyone.
There's. Lot of work, a lot of.
Work. There's a lot of things in it.
You wanna mean?
And that's what he's saying. And. I think good on him for being open about it because I dare say that he's probably had to say that because everybody keeps going.
When are you gonna have kids?
And let me tell you too, if you decide to have kids later in life, like in your late 30s and into.
When everything's already hurting.
Your early 40s, it's. It's not easy. Kids are not for everyone. It takes a special kind of person and thankfully, thankfully, you know, we are special kind of people. But you already knew that. We're also at the end of the podcast. Happy birthday, Seth Rogen.
I'm so tired, so.
Yes.
I do have one more thing to say about him that I found really funny. Just Scroll down to the picture, have a look.
Ohh really? Ohh sorry. OK Ohh there's a fight. You give me a photo. He's holding hands. Walking down the street with his wife. Yes.
At that picture.
Look at that photo. So he's with his wife and then look at the photo next to him. Who's that?
It's Justin Timberlake holding hands, walking down the street with his.
So he tweets that and he goes. Me and my wife have just recently come to the unsettling realisation that at Justin Timberlake and at Jessica Beale are the better looking version of. Us.
Ohh, they do look exactly the same. They're wearing the same clothes.
And there's all these red carpet appearances where they're wearing, like the same colours. And the same.
Really feel funny. I feel like later on in life you and I are the better looking version of Jessica Simpson and Nicola Shay. Except I'm not as much of.
That. Isn't that funny?
A. Now we've definitely reached the end because I've dropped that word. I think so. You're very kind. If you're still listening to us. Thank you very much for sticking around. We've got some stuff next week, but we'll deal with it then. As long as you promise to stick around for it, I can guarantee you it'll be just as much.
That's very that's very kind. Every fun. So much fun.
Just as much fun. More hijinks even.
We can review your Uber ratings, maybe.
People will leave a comment.
I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't even know if I should have spoken about. But anyway, if there's any Uber drivers out there listening to the podcast and you stumble upon my profile, please.
I don't believe that. And you wanna give some feedback, just like give some feedback. Why did you take the .5 off? I reckon it was the Polestar guy.
Just help fatten up my stats. Do you reckon? Ohh well, that guy spoke more than I did. The guy driving the Polestar he was like, raving about his electric car.
Yeah.
I reckon it was the Polestar guy.
He was a showboat, wasn't he?
And then I I I simply I I. Well, I think I called him out because I'm like, well, why you drive an ubers? And it was like to.
But you did talk back a lot.
Pay off.
There you go. That's where.
The car and I might have laughed at him, so then that's not OK and that's not OK. So if if you're listening Polestar guy and I, I mean, who knows? I'm sorry.
You lost the .5.
Fascism.
Give me back my half a star. Speaking of stars, you're All Stars for putting up with us. So thank you. Thank you. Come and find us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, search for T -. 20 podcast. And we appreciate you immensely. So we will see you next week where we can appreciate you more. Hopefully be.
Hmm.
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