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The year is 2004... Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term. And in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the superbowl?
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Entourage unleashed: good vibrations and Hollywood’s wild ride
🎬 We dive into the glitz and chaos of Hollywood with the premiere of Entourage. The series that gave us a backstage pass to fame, fortune and the wild ride in between!
💉We’re sweating the small stuff – literally! We said bye bye pit stains when the FDA gave Botox the green light for sweat-free underarms.
🏆 We chat the 12th ESPY Awards - the big winners on the day plus deets on where they are now.
🎶 The 4th-generation iPod landed and users were clicking with joy. With its sleek click wheel and massive storage, it revolutionised how we listened to music on the go.
🤖 I, Robot is a hit at the box office and perhaps just a little too close to home through today’s AI lens…
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind 20 years.
Wait.
18 July 2004.
T -, 20 you know what?
The rest is history.
I'm very forgetful 20. Hello there.
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
You're fired.
When we're waiting for.
This is harder than I thought it would be. My fellow Americans, let's roll.
Brace yourself. Strap yourselves in. Zip up your sight. Deists as our tangents and hot takes. Get you ready to reminisce about forgotten fads, cringeworthy fashions. And the biggest headlines that captivated everyone's attention two decades before. Now it's a bit of a comedown, isn't it, really, t -? 20 is the name of the podcast you're listening to with your host. Rowan Mel. Hello.
Mel. Hello. That was a little bit too dramatic. The dogs concerned dog was just looking at you with his face going. Do I need to call for help? Is everything alright?
The. Is getting the. Dogs. At me going. Are you OK? Yeah. Yes, the dogs, normally asleep, I think I woke her up. There's too much energy there. She's like what? What are? We doing we going for a walk.
That is a lot of energy and I feel like I'm not gonna be able to live up to. That throughout this show.
No. Let's maintain it. Maybe a bit of Botox for you.
So today we're gonna be treating our patient with some neuromodulator for their hyperhidrosis or excessive sweating of the underarm. It's been shown that neuromodulators such as Botox or Dysport can decrease sweating for up to six months or more with.
Wow, six months with no sweat. I should mention what week are we on? 18th to the 24th of July. Sounds good. Well, well, I'm. Yes. We'll look at the Botox thing a little.
Hmm.
That's sour. Good. Yes, 2004, to be clear.
Bit more in the news.
It's about that time the break for.
I wanna see sweat coming out.
Well, not if you're having Botox. You're not gonna see sweats. That's right. Sweat coming out your paws. Unless you've had Botox. Marky mark? Yes.
Feel it, feel it.
Ohh love that song. I love that song. But that's Mikey marks, not 2000s, but Marky Mark is kind of involved in a big television release this time 20 years ago.
For centuries, countless tales have been told of the legend of King Arthur. But the only story you've never heard is the true story.
The true story of King Arthur. I thought King Arthur was a myth. Anyway, we'll explore that as well. I mean, it must be a true story. If it's being narrated by Keira Knightley.
Sounds of fish? Yes. We're also talking sport and I hate sport, so I thought, why don't we do a little bit of a where are they now? And hopefully you know, they're not so sporty anymore to make me feel better, but most of them still are. So that's disappointing.
It does sound of fear.
You you can't.
You can't hate sports. You can't hate sport.
I do hate sports. I do hate.
Because as well as a man who's in his late 40s, it's kind of all I've got.
Sports. I'm jealous.
Left just sport. There's nothing good on the deli.
Sports, beer and smoking mates.
But at least we can watch smort smoke some meat and drink beer. Yes, all very healthy pursuits. Which reminds me of a little meme that you sent me this week. I love it when you send me memes. It just makes me feel like our marriage is still alive and well. Watching sport in your 30s. This is from Charlotte Wilder at the Wilder things. Watching sports in your 30s is a real sobering experience, because announcers are like, look at this ancient. Who's the oldest senior citizen to ever win a championship? And he's two years younger than you are trying 17 to 20 years younger than I am.
20.
Isn't that terrible? And we like you still. Look, when you're watching sport, you see how young they are. They're all babies because only babies can play sport. You know, adults have to do things like get out of bed or sleep funny, and then they're off. Sideline sees an energy injuries. Other people are just like, ohh. He's torn his ACL. He'll be back next season.
So like I could do that. No I could.
Umm. Like I got out of bed funny and I'm never coming back from it.
Season. No career ending career ending? Well, look at least your pregnancy wasn't referred to as a geriatric pregnancy. I was officially a geriatric pregnant woman. Yes, I think if you're over 35 when you're pregnant, that's a yes, yes.
Career ender. Beg your pardon? When you were pregnant, really. Huge area, right? God, that just painted these really weird images of you people in old folks homes with baby bumps. Imagine that. Who are you? I'm your child. Are you sure?
Ohh.
Speaking of forgetful or not, you need to remember this little clue, because we're going to revisit it in the hatches, matches and dispatches segment. Actually, forgetful is probably not an appropriate word for this particular one. It's a celebrity who's having a birthday this week. That said this.
Do you go through it hard when you get your period?
Ohh my God, I can't get out OK.
Oh. Or the field.
Feels. Yeah, we'll feel that at the end. Of the show. Over to the news starting on the 20th of July and the FDA has approved the use of Botox for your pits this time 20 years ago, the FDA were a little iffy around Botox, but this approval for your pits was the beginning of a marvellous time for anyone who.
They were.
He was a fan of. The bobo.
They approved it. For a condition specifically called primary auxiliary.
Hyperhidrosis, hyperhidrosis, IE sweating.
So today we're going to be treating our patient with some neuromodulator for their hyperhidrosis or excessive sweating of the under arm. It's been shown that neuromodulators such as Botox or Dysport can decrease sweating for up to six months or more with one simple set of injections. So I'll show you how it goes. First, we've cleansed the area. And she has shaved her underarms, but it's not necessary. So if men come in with hair in their under arms, that's OK as well. And we basically do injections at the site of the hair follicles little pinch. In about 1 centimetre increments across the area and it takes anywhere from 2 to 14 days to fully set in, and after it sets in, she'll have decreased rate for a good six to nine months. It's that easy.
That easy, that does not sound easy at all. That sounds hideously painful, being pricked in your armpits at one centimetre intervals to prevent your sweating.
With the native. Well, if you suffer from hyperhidrosis, you sweat four to five times the amount of underarm sweat that's considered normal.
Wow, I feel.
Like I kind of fit in this category. I've always said I sweat like a man. I can't wear grey male.
Grey. What's grey male?
Grey male on a warm day. You know the colour grey. It's got that sort of mild effect. So I lift my arms up and it's just hatches. I get sweat patches under my arms, under my *****. I get my my T shirt ends up quite stripey. Do you remember Tanya Sayeda on who dares wins. I always remember her in the green mile.
Yeah. Right. Patches you get sweat patches. Wow.
Dudes wins shirt having the same problem, so I feel like her and I both suffer hyper hydrosis and should have maybe gone the tox rout. So like they said, it's a series of injections relatively quick and painless, allegedly lasting from five months to a.
She had sweat patches as well. That's probably because she was about to jump off a building or something, she was stressed. Right, sure.
Year and it paralyses the nerve that stimulates your sweat glands and in a study that they did because the FDA. Has to have a study done. Before they approve anything. Yeah, 91% of patients who got these injections saw their sweating cut in half in a month, compared with 36% who were given salt water. Injections.
Well, that sounds look at that. So they gave him a salt water injection. They didn't know they did the whole placebo testing. Yeah, it's great. I'm definitely not sweating. And.
Hmm.
They've done is mate. You'd wanna get the real thing. How dipped would you feel if you were the salt water?
Yeah.
Test the.
He's a salt person, yes.
Water. Yeah. The control subject or whatever they call it. I don't know. I'm not a science guy.
I I think you'd probably you'd you'd. Realise once you got the grey male T shirt out in summer.
Yeah, you'd be like, well, this didn't work. And they'd be like trick you. It was salt water.
They also started using it to treat sweaty hands and feet, which would have been handy in my pole dancing days when I did pole dancing for fitness. Full disclosure, not pole dancing for entertaining people.
Oh God.
Watching no one was entertained watching me doing it, wasn't it? Well, yeah, it was more like a comedy club, but I have really sweaty hands as well. And so I couldn't grip the bar. It's always slide down the bar because my hands were so sweaty. So I really do think that perhaps I.
That was pretty entertaining. Yeah. Should give this a go. That sounds like a well, yes, that. Would have. I think that would be a performance enhancing drug. The bolt in circles.
Really. Would.
Also, how are you gonna be able to tell if your armpits are upset with you?
Or if they're. Feeling a little bit emotional 1000 to $2000.00, but it does carry some side effects. Would you like to read out the the disclaimer?
What are the side effects? Hang on, where is the disclaimer? Ohh. OK. Disclaimer, this is like what they do on the American pharmaceutical commercials where you'll get like 10 seconds of ad and then 40 seconds of disclaim.
Yes.
Side effects include injection site pain and bleeding, sweating in other parts of the body flu like symptoms, headache, fever, itching and anxiety. That sounds terrible and of no do you get pain at the site at the injection site when they're sticking you with a needle in.
OK.
Where else?
Your armpit, but.
They're sweating in other parts of your body. Does that mean that it just moves somewhere else? And what are those?
Are they?
Other parts of your body.
They've diverted the flow.
Where are you gonna get the sweat patches instead?
Well, it might be in your crotch. Imagine getting Botox in your crotch. I mean, when you get over 40 and you're married, you don't feel anything for the waist down anyway, so it doesn't, really. Yeah, but that does sound awful. I like I've. I know people that have had their armpits tattooed, you know, they get, like, a tattoo in their armpit. And I'm like, that is tough.
Boom.
People get that.
That's tough. Like you think if you're ticklish, I mean, maybe.
Wow. But why would you get one there? Who's gonna see it? Yeah.
In your armpit? I don't know. Depends on what you get in there, I guess.
Is it go?
Eyes.
Guys, girls. Yeah.
So do they shave their armpits after they get the tattoo or do they?
Well, they'd have to shave it beforehand. You've gotta shave it beforehand. I mean, it depends on what you get in there like.
Their hair grow back. But if you like the hair grow. Back, no one's going to see it.
If you got. Like a little port you could get like a portrait of Grug or something. Just be a couple of eyes and then the yeah, Grug, Grug. And you're up here, looks like drug.
Like a secret. I love Grug. There's a tree down the road that looks like Grug. Every time I run under it, I think Grug.
I think I think an armpit is a perfect spot for a portrait of Grug. Yeah.
I think you should do.
It.
No.
And then you could die your armpit hair. Cause, remember, he's sort of stripey. You'd have to like bleach some.
Yeah.
You know, like those big chunky.
The Greg Stripes, hmm? Yes. But then I think if I started to sweat excessively, then people would think so. That's Greg. After he's had a bath or gone for a swim.
Yeah, Big puppy starts. Poor Greg. I did like, though, so that procedure that we played earlier, umm, of someone getting that done, I looked in the comments and there was two comments and these people obviously thought it was a little bit too.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Pull on and they said there's a DIY option for anyone who's interested baking soda.
Ohh.
Apparently baking soda can be great for those occasions when you're in a hurry. And they referenced someone by the name of Cynthia Ulson for anyone who's interested. I'm putting a big disclaimer on there. I haven't tried it, and side effects include injection site pain, bleeding, sweating in other parts of body fluid symptoms, headache, fever and itching and anxiety potentially. But then someone else said that they went and watched Cynthia's homepage. There was a video and. That the sweat just dried up within 48 hours and it was so.
Satisfying, really. See, I don't. I don't buy that. I reckon I don't. I reckon the reason why they thought it would clear it up is.
Love the YouTube comments.
There's no one was around them to tell them because they stunk so bad of Bob. O is the worst. The people that don't use deodorant. I don't care if it's a plot by the man to make everyone smell nice and be complicit. Body odour is one of the grossest things that other people have to endure. And you know, if you're the one who's got it, you. Can't really smell it.
Isn't there a thing that you can do to tell like you lick your armpit or some? Ohh no, that's no, that's your breath or something. You lick your hand and then smell your.
If you've got beer, what?
Hand. That's your sorry, not your armpit.
Is that right and that that's that's how you know, you've got halitosis.
Yeah, I remember once because I do sweat so much. Someone recommended a.
Crystal some sort.
The.
Of crystal not like a put it on your head and pray crystal that like there there was an armpit. It was a deodorant crystal.
You rub a crystal in your picks. Crystal, an armpit crystal, right? Yeah. No, of course it didn't. You.
A deodorant. It didn't work and I. I had the Bo. Yeah, it was bad.
It's see, that's just bad.
They're like they're, you know, you do. You stop sweating for 48 hours, use this crystal. Amazing. I'm like, oh.
Yeah, maybe you should have put it in some baking soda first. I mean, just use deodorant. Like, it's not hard. You know? Who cares? Who cares if you're giving more money to Johnson and Johnson or whoever it is, at least. You don't stink. Well, Speaking of sweating a lot, that seems like an appropriate segue into sport. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't see any elite athletes rubbing crystals under their armpits.
No, no, that would be the the full medical grades. Yeah, you, the one you pay twice as much for as I.
Although I wonder if the you know the chalks that the weight lifters put on their hands has that got baking soda?
Medical strengths.
In it.
Potentially.
I don't know just to guess.
Alright, 18th, 18th of July 2004, we had the 12th SP Awards.
That's the ESPN awards. Is it the SUV's?
Yeah, the sports channel does. It. Yes, that's right.
Yeah. Hmm.
What does ESPN stand for?
I don't know entertainment, sports something or other. Hang on, let me find it for you. It was a question in trivia, actually, the other week.
Something sports something. Ohh network N is the network, S is the sport. We're halfway there.
Yes. Yes, a ESPN.
Entertaining sport.
Entertainment and sports programming net worth. So I don't know what the espies is.
Our programme, I think the pays. I think the pays redundant because if it's a network, of course it's got programming, it could just be ESN.
Well.
Yes, but it's not. It's got pee in it.
I think the pay is unnecessary. So I think that just it's just their. Rewards, isn't it?
Well, the the SS species excellence in sports performance yearly.
Oh, so it's got nothing to do.
Award.
With ESPN.
I don't know that it has anything to do with ESPN. That's right. It's just called the SP. But maybe the SP's was on ESPN. No, it is ESPN's actually it's ESPN's. This is research on the fly. This is stuff we should have checked prior the espies the espies are from ESPN.
Ohh, let's just forget the last five minutes then. I don't like them using the acronyms differently. Well, that's dumb. And they don't need the P any. Well, it's not. It is because they use one acronym for ESPN and then something totally different for SB. It's confusing.
Well anyway.
You should just GTFO W.
Why? Who won? Who was The Who were the winners of?
Won.
The 12th ESPY.
Well, Diana Toraji won best female athlete. She's an American professional basketball player, so I.
Awards.
I don't know. It just feels like we should do a little bit of a segment here. What do you think?
I think so. Let's live in the.
Well, it's like a bit of a. Where are they now? Type thing you know.
Sport up a bit.
I think that's the way to go and I think what we'll call this segment is.
Alright.
Return of the. Mac.
That's better than we are right now. Yeah, bit more gangster.
Return of the Mac? Yes. So so. Diana Taurasi. Hmm. Where is she now?
In August 2023, she became the first player in the WNBA history to score at 10,000 career points, so still playing last year.
Wow. That's impressive. That's impressive. That goes back on that. So what? God, what would they refer to her as if she's not like, she wouldn't even be a 30 something athlete? She'd probably be a 40 something athlete, right?
Dang.
Well, geriatric, then probably geriatric.
Athlete.
Basketball player. I don't know that.
Yeah, yeah. With 10,000 points. No, I don't think she would either. But anyway, yes, yes. So that's our first Mac that's returned. The best breakthrough artist I was gonna.
She'd appreciate that, but. Well done, Dianna, good on you.
Say best breakthrough artist. The best breakthrough athlete in the ESPIES was LeBron James. Where is LeBron James now? Well, he's entering the 2023-2024 season. He was the oldest player in the NBA. The oldest player? Yeah. He and he recently signed A2 year contract extension with the Los Angeles Lakers after his son Bronny was drafted in 2024. So he's so old that his son has been.
Still going?
Drafted to the same team easy and he became part of the first active father son duo in NBA history, that deserves another.
Yes, yes.
Oh my God.
The Mac never left amazing LeBron. Good on you.
No, he didn't. He didn't.
Peyton Manning best NFL player.
Yeah, see. Ohh. He's a great player. Really big forehead, awesome quarterback. Where is he?
Now one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, he won Super Bowls as the quarterback for the Colts and the Broncos. I believe he has a brother, Eli, who also played. Look, he did return, but he has since retired in March 2016.
That was 2016 that he retired.
2016 Eli announced his retirement in 2020. I feel like he's still playing because I remember hearing him on your Madden game. Yeah, that the announcer.
Peyton Peyton's not. No, that's cause I had Maddie Madden 2016. That's right.
The announcer was always saying the names. I feel like I've only just.
Yeah, no, Peyton, Peyton's, Peyton's commentating, I think. Did a roast of him. They did. You know, the celebrity roast. They did one.
Heard the the claim recently. Ohh did.
Of Peyton Manning, it's. Right. Yeah. I mean, he looks like a football player whose helmet is built into his skull. He's got the biggest head anyway. He's a great player and of course he deserved that award. Now Lauren Jackson won the best WNBA player. She's obviously the Australian, a Lauren Jackson, local girl from Canberra.
Yes. Yeah.
Yes, my God.
Where is she now, Mel?
She went on to become the most notable Australian basketball player she played for Australia in the Olympics in 2002 thousand and four, 2008 and 2012, seven times champion in the WNBL. Did have hamstring surgery, I think in 2013 operations on her right knee and left Achilles in 2014. So sat out a few seasons but was preparing to come back eventually announcing her retirement. However, in February 2016.
Oh yeah. I think she might. Even that might be the last we'll see of her. I would not be surprised if you see Lauren Jackson. Playing basketball again and I wouldn't be surprised if you see her at the Olympics. I just. I just want to double check this cause I heard something in the news the other day.
Hmm.
Or coaching, maybe.
Oh.
So there's gonna be a return return of. The Mac potentially.
Right. Yes, So what does it say we, Lauren? Jackson crowns comeback with 5th Olympic selection. She has been selected in the Opals Paris squad for her 5th Olympic game so. She's back, baby. She's.
Well, there you.
Go IC. I believe it now that's that's.
How old is she?
Should have checked out.
She's 19811980. One so that would be.
Ohh, so she's 43.
Yeah, she was born early 80s. Nineteen 89, yeah.
Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. Not so amazing. Well, he was at the time. This guy can't win anything anymore. He cannot win anything anymore. Lance Armstrong wins best male athlete. Where's where's Lance now?
Most recently, he was on the reality show stars on Mars.
Ohh have you seen the idea of this show? So it's like it's like a Big Brother thing, but they put them in a pretend space station. Yeah. Pretend space station in stars on Mars. Yeah.
Pretend Mars? Yes, and they have to colonise, compete and conquer Mars. The fake Mars.
I I could not think of anything worse than watching this, especially with Lance Armstrong in there.
And he did cause a little bit of controversy, actually. While he was in the show, yes.
Did. Well, of course he did. I think he it it. This is the conversation that he had about trans athletes, I believe.
Hmm.
And this guy wanted to ask me about transgender stuff in sports. And I said, listen, one of my most key employees. They're transitioning. I have no problem with that. I love it. Let's go. And I said to the. Guy on the podcast, he said listen, this is real simple.
Cool.
You want to transition. Let's do it. You have your own category. We're going to have a whole new division. We'll celebrate you just like we celebrate everybody else. Let's go. What's unfair about that?
To me, I think we just have to care about few. Otherwise. People it's not. Like good for their mental health, like otherwise people.
What's that mean?
Like kind of. Exclude them from the same spaces and places that everyone else is.
And. Actually, no, we are not excluding anybody. And but and by the way I I sound like a right wing. Lunatic.
Wow. Other rise. I didn't know that was. A word, but there. You go otherwise don't. Otherwise people that is a that is a can of worms. I think there's a bit of crafty editing going on there where they play the ominous music when he starts talking about it like that. But you know, I mean, Lance, if you wanna talk about other rising people, I think they.
I like that other eyes and that's yeah.
Should have a steroid Olympics. I think that would be great. I think Lance, just juice him up and get him back on.
Yes. See return of the Mac, yes.
The. Bike again. He's he is very maligned Lance Armstrong because he cheated and he lied to everyone. He also has raised. He also raised millions of dollars towards curing cancer.
Yes.
Yes it is. But he also.
And he cheated doing it. But you know, I mean, whatever you can do to cure cancer. I mean, I'd cheat at something to cure cancer. If I could, although I don't think that's entirely his motivation, so I don't wanna sort of put that guy on a pedestal and say, well, you know, he's cheating for cancer. He's not doing that. He's cheating for his own ego, cause he's a rampaging narcissist.
None. Well, I think too in terms of his views there, I think the best one of the other contestants actually called him out. And I think made a very valid point.
Do I think Lance Armstrong's famous cheater worrying about an unfair advantage in sports is the craziest person to talk about this? Yes, I do think that, and I. Don't think that that's. A hot take. I think that you know. I believe that you know, if you want all of this research and you want more information on what it's like to have trans athletes involved in sports. Trans athletes need to be accepted in the sports community so that you can get that research.
So that was the winner of stars on Mars. So Lance didn't win. It wasn't a return of the.
I told you he can't win anything anymore. Ever in the history.
Mac at all. No. Maybe he was disqualified from stars on Mars as well, just for being * ****.
He he can't win anything.
So that was Olympic figure skater Adam Rippon, who who won that? And he was being interviewed after the show. Is apparently they had this long discussion on the show, but it didn't end up airing. So he was sort of relaying some of his thoughts there and made a very good point. I don't think he is. Lance is really one to be discussing unfair advantages in sport or what he deems an unfair advantage in.
Yeah, he's a bit. Exactly. No, he shouldn't. Did they? What did they win for stars on Mars?
Sports. I I think they just got crowned like. The the brightest. Star in the universe or something? I don't know. I'm. I'm not too sure. I didn't watch it.
Really, right. I just. They should have just let him outside. Let's get into some technology now the 19th of July, Steve Jobs into well, Steve Jobs does an Apple introduces. But I mean, Steve Jobs was Apple is Apple was Apple. Don't worry about all those sweatshop workers in those electronics factories putting stuff together.
He is. Will always be Apple.
If it was up to Steve Jobs, he could have done it all himself single handedly. He he introduced the 4th generation iPod.
Trump seems.
I hope you're all familiar with the iTunes music store, the iTunes Music Store has a 70% market share of legal downloads. And we started off in the US, but a few weeks ago, we introduced in the UK, Germany and France. We got off to a stunning start there. We're now the largest online music service in Europe. Our first week there and all of these countries represent about 62% of the global music sales. So we're we're doing really well and. We're thrilled to be in Europe, so we're clearly the most popular place to buy music online. And of course there's iPods, the number one portable digital music player in the world with over 50% market share as measured by units even greater as measured by revenues.
That was that was from the WWDC the. Conference the where he did where he did the keynote earlier on and I just he didn't really. He didn't really talk too much about the 4th generation iPod. He just was swinging his around on stage basically. That's all he was doing.
Ohh where you get. Bag and the. Jumper. Still want the jumper? Well, they opened in Germany, I heard. So I wonder how many downloads of Mensch would after that there would have.
Ohh quite a few quite a few market share like I.
Been a lot.
There the the iPod click wheel or the iPod 4G. This is a major development in the new iPod. Was the click wheel. It was a major innovation. Integrate.
Yes.
Ah yes. Much.
Buttons into the wheel, making navigating through menus and selecting songs and adjusting volume extremely easy. I've got one I love my iPod classic, I really do.
So is yours a fourth generation you're guessing?
I'm not entirely. I don't think it's a fourth generation, but it's got that refined click wheel that the 4th generation paved the way for and for and for that click wheel, Steve Jobs it does. It feels great. I salute you so much so that I like that they've integrated that click wheel into.
Deny. Just feels, feels good under your thumb. It's a it's. A good click.
The into the the TV remotes, although now the TV remotes are just more like a pad that you can slide your finger across and it like picks it up like a trackpad type thing. Anyway, we're talking about the iPod touch sensitive and aren't we all?
Ohh yes, I don't like that. Yes, yes, it allowed for rapid scrolling and this was important because the storage size of the iPod was getting larger and larger. So if you had a really big library on your iPod, you needed to get. Through it pretty. Quickly to find the song that you wanted.
Actually, you know what I think I this is the version that I have.
Because my.
I don't know mines about 40 gigabytes cause it that's why they had the wheel on there, cause the storage was so large that you had to really cycle through it.
MHM.
What sort of screen does yours have? Cause I think this was a black and white screen initially and then it was colour in 2005.
Ohh no mine have a colour screen yeah. Few more generations above it cause I had cause you could watch movies on it. As well like.
No, yours was the.
Although why would you wanna watch movies on something the size of a a screen the size of a postage stamp? That's just ridiculous. Ohh geez. You really see? I've got inception on mine. Like why not watch an inception on? That's ridic.
Next one.
Because it's the future, the future.
Ellis.
We'll just get.
Some magnifying glasses from the chemist. You'll be just like being at the.
I don't think I've ever. Ohh I can't wait for my next commute. I'm gonna start watching inception. Hold it right up to my face like a.
Movies. Gonna put the magnifying glass over the top. Fantastic. So they did say the tactile feedback was was nice. People enjoyed the feedback it gave the.
Knob in yeah. Hmm. Little bit of haptics on there.
Thumb. The physical wheel and the simplicity of the interface, and it did make it look cleaner and more.
Yeah.
Streamlined, which is what Apple was really. Known for so.
Clean and streamlined, yes.
Yeah. So it was really into that. That design made it more intuitive. So I did say storage. This one had 20 or 40 gig storage, which equates to 5000 or 10,000 songs. When we spoke of the first one, what was that? It was 1000 or 5000 I think can't remember.
Yes. Yeah, I think so. It wasn't it. It might have been up to 5000, but I also don't think it was lossless either. So you could compress your MP threes down to be a bit smaller, so you could. Fit a. Fair bit on. There. Yeah. Look, it's a lot, OK. It's a lot.
It was a lot compared with the other audio players on the market as well, so I.
Well, if you consider it like in proportionate to commercial radio stations, we've only got. About 30 odd songs that they play on high rotation all the time.
And 28 of them are Nickelback. Yeah, I know.
It's a lot. Yeah, exactly. And then the other two are Matchbox 20.
Should just hook up your iPod.
Yes indeed. Press shuffle and you've got radio station in your pocket. That's substantially better.
Sorry.
It's nice to do a bit of a comparison, so 20 or 40 gig was a lot. Then I had a look at my iPhone. Today my iPhone is about five or six years old, so it's by no means new. It's old, very old, and it's got a little pixel that's out and it's just growing bigger and bigger, and it's really starting to tick me off.
Yeah.
To be honest.
But my phone has 256. Gigabytes. Yeah. Compared with 20 or 40. Hmm. I have 743 songs on my phone. But I do believe you can store up to 100,000 songs these days in your iCloud. Not that I ever know where to find my iCloud. And every time my iCloud gets full, I just pay more money to make my cloud bigger. And I don't even know how to get there.
That's a lot. Yeah. That's exciting. Ah, no. You got.
I don't know what's in my. Cloud how to get there? But I just keep buying more clouds.
You've gotta be like monkey magic and just pull a little hair out of your chest. And then it flies down. Yes, exactly. Yes. So you jump on top of it and you sail off into the sunset, listening to your July for your poison. And Brittany, whatever else you've.
It appears with all my songs all my dual leapers and Britney and a little bit of poison and motley crew.
Got on there.
That would be nice. Little Mötley Crüe cloud. Very good. So it was sleek, it was compact, it was portable, it had the aesthetic. The battery life was also pretty good, up to 12 hours of continuous music playback, which was a significant improvement on the previous model.
Excellent. Well, yeah, cool.
Something else that was also a bit groundbreaking was the compatibility, so you could hook it up to both a Mac or a Windows operating system at this stage, which broadened the appeal to a larger audience, and it had a dock. The the 40 gig. So the more expensive one you had a dock to connect it to your computer.
I do remember the doc. Yeah. So. So mine was the next year. Cause I think it was 2005 or at the end of 2005 when they introduced the 5th.
So fancy.
Gen iPod with video and that's the one I've got, and I've still got it and I love it dearly. I don't use it very often these days.
Would you even be able to connect it to a computer? What I I wouldn't even know.
I don't know. Do you know what, though? I'm gonna try. I'm gonna give it a red hot. Go and see if it'll still talk to iTunes. It probably won't.
What cord you'd put in it? Cause my I had a shuffle, the little one and that plugged in with something that looks like what you used to have on the end of.
Headphones.
I do know that the I tell ya, I do know that these iPod classics go for a fair bit on eBay these days, yes.
I don't think. Can connect it to anything. Really. Yeah. Load it up with songs or you have to take the songs off.
Not just the actual device itself, I don't know.
I remember you spending all night putting your CD's on too.
Mel, it took me two weeks to get a more. Yeah.
Was it 2 weeks? I just remember. You staying up all night? One night doing it.
So there's so from 153 to $300.00 for one of them, 255 for a 7th generation, 160 gig one. Yeah, they're around 150 bucks. I thought they'd go for more than that, but I guess not. But I think they're very cool. I still really like and enjoy using mine. Well, I don't know.
I just loved that you put your CD's on there. Weren't you supposed to use the iTunes library?
I went from iTunes across to the iPod and then I think when I changed computers I bought some third party software, plug my iPod into the computer and said can you just take a look?
You moved all your CD's over.
That it was very complicated and draining, and I never want to go through that process again. It reminded me of when I first started working in radio and my job was to dub commercial. Yes. And then when we went from carts over to the digital music library, I spent a good three to four months, 12 hours a day.
Ohh karting.
Nearly seven days a week. Just uploading CD's into that music. It was the same thing, the same thing, and it was a year after I'd been fired from radio, and I felt like I'd gone back to square one, although at least I had enough money. Now that I wasn't working in radio to actually afford an iPod and a car for that matter, and to live somewhere and feed myself, it was amazing.
So it's pretty. Much the same thing that you did. With your iPod.
Really liking the. I don't know if it's the the Feng shui of this evening show or if our shui is Fung. I'm not sure, but what we've gone from, you know, Botox and sweating into sport into technology across to where they're talking about iPads and iPods.
Ohh I thought.
Sorry iPods and now. Yes Sir. Ashway is funked and then into music, which is where we've landed now it has flowed. OK, except for the fact that I keep blocking the flow every now I'm like a clot in the middle of the podcast. The just the content is just shoving me on to the.
It's a nice flow, isn't. And.
Next major artery until we get right up to the brain and we eventually have a stroke and everything ends badly.
We need to move the coal. Bit of mover Cole. It'll be fine.
Maybe. Oh well, that's the other end. OK, if you wanna go down there, that's something. Well, we are at the music segment and we are gonna be probably talking about.
Silly and awesome. And you do find it. But just reflect though return of the Mac. Yeah, before that brought back a lovely memory that I haven't had for some time.
Yes.
Time when I used to go to deja vu, the nightclub at the casino, I think it was originally called the over 20 Fives Club because I had to be over 25, but I used to go and I was under 25 cause that's how rebellious I am. Anyway, my friend and I for. Some stupid reason would always.
What? What else? Did you do in your spare time during the day? Did you go to bingo?
Well, I am a geriatric. So you know, I did go to bingo actually with my mum and my grandma. Lofty used to call the numbers and once people were at 69 and the old ladies got offended. So lofty had to say through the microphone at bingo.
You are now. You weren't then. See, I knew it. Of course you did. Yep.
Can people please stop laughing at number 69 because it's offensive?
Is that right?
You weren't allowed to laugh, or we saw at number 69, but anyway, loftier sight when.
Wow. Well, especially with those old people. That'd be like trying to open up.
I was at.
A toasted cheese sandwich.
When I was at the over 25 club dancing on the.
3 minutes.
Sorry.
Stage or blowing the dust off. An old book.
When I was on the stage at the.
Yes.
Over 20 fives club. There's this guy and we refer to him as fisheye because he would. He'd come to deja vu and he'd dance around and he'd try to hook up. So try to find a girl and then he'd realised that he wasn't successful. This would. Happen every Saturday.
Yes.
He'd never get anywhere. So then he'd ask the DJ to play return of the Mac and he'd get on the stage and he'd dance. Next to us, not with us because we're like. No, you go. There. And he danced to return of the Mack. And then he'd go out to Fishwick and held.
Yes, yes. And for those of you playing at home who don't know what Fishwick is, Fishwick is the red light district in Canberra where we're where all the. Well, yes, that's where all the sex workers.
Him fishwick. So I just had a. Lovely memory of of Fishwick. Yes, it's legal, perfectly legal, perfectly OK.
Hang out, yes.
Yes. So that's, that's where his night ended. After playing return of the Mack and Dancing on the stage, I just had a beautiful memory of that. I wonder what Fishwick.
Yes. Excellent.
Is up to now.
Probably getting a rub and tug. We're being honest.
Potentially wouldn't surprise me. Alright. Should we go to the charts now? That's yeah.
Yes, let's. Let's go. Let's go to the charts for this week.
But I don't want me to change you.
Too many days, so many hours.
You know, and let it go.
Two.
Working that back, I don't know how to act so slow. Motion for back slow motion.
So that is the same charts as last week, but with the no, not the same order, just slightly rearranged. So confessions Part 2 usher is still no slow motion has moved up in the charts by. Even I'll and that other fella and I just think after the lyrical breakdown, I did a couple of weeks ago of slow motion, I find that.
Oh. It's just about doing things a bit slowly.
No, it's not. And you can revisit that and I'm not going to go over that again cause we've been ribald enough this week, burn by usher back in at #3 the reason Hoobastank at #4, and if I ain't got you, Alicia Keith.
Feet usher. So still in there three times.
Yeah, adding an element of class to the charts really Alicia Keys.
Until I should get handsy, that is.
Well, yes, of course. Anyway, these are my confessions. That's the charts for this week. What's number one in Australia this week?
Oh.
Or, Pauline, get another dress or lose 5 lbs. Pauline. Hmm.
Yes, you. Need. Some. Exactly. Yes, Pauline. With Angel. Guys, that's so another Australian idol in the charts in the number one position. What position did Paulini finish in in idle, I think was she?
Hmm.
Ohh, she was on the top there.
3rd I think she was third.
So it's taken.
Her a while though to get into the charts well, Bergdahl was last year.
Because I.
Well, they've had a I think there's a bit of a plan there. They're staggering.
Ohh, they staggered. They staggered the relief.
And obviously, yes, they're all probably on the same label, same products.
So Angel eyes and Guy Sebastian had angels brought me here.
Yes, but Angel eyes is a cover. Angel Eyes is a cover of a Jeff Healey.
Ohh.
Song. Yeah. So you know Jeff Healey, the Blind Blues guitarist, plays his guitar on his lap. Ohh, he's a fantastic guitar player. Great Blues guitar player. So that song was written by John Hyatt and Fred Kohler, produced by Greg Ladanyi for the Jeff Healey band's first album. See the light, which was released in 1988. And that was reversed.
No, no.
Alright.
Released in the UK. OK, as that albums, Jeff Healey's album second single in April 1989 and was issued in the United States several weeks later, so then they give it to Paulini.
Ohh any flogs it? Yeah for her debut share album 1 Determined Heart. It was produced by Audius, the same audius who spotted Selwyn pushing trolleys and singing and signed Selwyn Rooms.
Yes.
Hmm.
How do you? Yeah.
Remember singing Selwyn trolley boy? Yes, that audius so audius has ditched sell one for Pauline.
Yes. This.
Me and gone. Let's do a cover of this and they released it as the lead single from her.
Yes. Album and it's shot to.
Number one, number one with the bullet, Paulini said that it was an amazing song that Audius came up with some great ideas. They did it and it worked and all the instruments alive. Thank you, adius.
What idea did he have? I've got an idea. Let's steal that song that Jeff Healey did. Or let's buy it off him, I'm sure. And they they would have. Let's shop around and find a song that we can get for cheap, and then we'll we'll get you to cover it.
So I'm not much of A songwriter.
In your own inimitable way, yes, and it turns out to be one of the best songs according to Pauline is.
Yes, she did say that, yes.
That. What she said Umm, peaked at #1, so that's where it goes for three consecutive weeks. So we'll have that for another two weeks and then we'll be gone. Spoiler alert.
Maybe you can bring some audius facts next week.
Certified platinum by the Aria industry. Or the Australian Record Industry Association, the Rea people, not the RE industry. That's. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's platinum in Australia. There you go. Mm-hmm. And and. And the number one chart. Award and nomination for the highest selling single at the 2004 Arias.
Moved 70,000 units. Thank you very much. Yes, well done, Paulini. All. And he's doing now.
Probably waiting tables or I would not be surprised if you see her pop up in another singing competition anytime soon. I think actually you know what she's doing? She was in the Divas. I think she's doing musicals now.
Wide.
It's pushing trolleys. Potentially. Ohh was she in the Davies. Was she in those young Divas?
OK, so she well for starters, in 2018, fake driver's licence scandal for Pauline? Yes. Remember that? Yes, she was in the bodyguard musical. But they were cancelled after the fake drivers licence thing. She's been in the Australian production of Saturday night Fever the musical.
Ohh, that's right. Yes, I loved that. Yes.
She's been in hair. She played Dion in hair and that she did shows in Perth, Geelong, wine and Wollongong. She's doing the RSL circuit basically. What else did she do? Chess the musical.
Hmm.
Well Eurovision she was. I think she did something with Eurovision in 20/22. She was one of the entrants for the Eurovision but I don't think she ever went anywhere with that. She's still doing music. I think she was in the Gold Coast production of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat as the narrator. She's basically just falling back on musical theatre and that's how she makes a crust these days.
Good honour. Well done, Paulini. Thank you for that return of the Mac as. Well, that was nice.
I think that was nicer. The recorder version. Yeah, as played by Mel, if anyone wanted to know, she's a bit of a dab hand on the recorder. She knows how to blow a Reed.
Ohh do you thank you.
Yes.
What can I say? What else we got? Number one in the UK was this one. As dedicated to Lance Armstrong. That's Lola's theme by the shape shifters. Why? Why am I introducing all these chart songs? Can you take over, please?
Loans.
It was obviously very poignant piece of music for you 20 years ago. It's the debut single from British house duo The Shape Shifters featuring soul singer Cookie on vocals. It was the lead single from their debut album Sound Advice. I think it was their biggest single.
Hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Lola scene was originally a working title for the record. Lola was Simon Marlins wife. So Simon, I I assume is one of the duo, one of the two in the in the British house duo and he was listening to her record collection to get the initial idea and I'm wondering if because it is a sample, I'm wondering if one of the records.
It's in. Group yes, according to it. Hmm.
He was listening to was what about my love over by Johnny Taylor.
I like that.
That's what they sample, but obviously you speed it up a little bit.
Smooth sample from 1982. I believe that song was called. What about my love? What about my love? Or is it? What about my love?
Else.
Or.
What about my love?
What about it? I like that in the UK, they're not afraid to go disco with their charts over in the UK they go disco a lot.
Umm, it's always more popular there. Like Kylie and Denny's. Disco stuff always charts over there.
Disco. Disco is always really big and like never died in the UK. Other places may be, but there's always room for disco in the UK.
No, no, no.
We had an album release as well this week, 20 years ago. Autobiography from Ashley Simpson. This was her debut studio album. Obviously, the reality show has already started to build the height.
Ohh this is what they promote. OK, yes. Yes, this is how they tried to promo it but it all went South.
Yeah.
Well, no surprises. The album debuts at #1 on the Billboard 200 certified triple Platinum because we've had this build up through the reality show. Then a few months later we have the big SNL lip synching debacle which we've spoken about at length, and I do. I do. I have changed my tune like I still don't like that she blamed the band.
The lift syncing things. Yeah. Hmm.
I do. I do feel for and I think that she was pressured, so I apologise. The album combines elements of rock and pop which was very different from her sister Jessica, and I think a lot of people were expecting the sound to be quite.
Don't feel too much.
Similar. So a lot of people. Were surprised by this album.
Yeah.
Sold more than 5 million copies worldwide.
Yeah.
And the most successful single, obviously pieces of me.
For real?
No.
Tell tell you can tell me.
Which was about her relationship with Ryan Cabrera.
What's that?
So you don't feel too much for her. She's living the dream. She's. Indulging in some pop music fantasy, riding in limos, travelling the world, hanging out with Ryan and you and I are sitting here in a dingy office recording a podcast in the freezing cold.
Hanging out with Ryan? Ryan was quite the heart throbs. The dog was scooting a minute ago. I think we've got a skitty on the carpet.
The dogs the the dog just. I'm fairly certain that one of her glands is ruptured because it smells like low tide in here now. And you wanna sit there and feel sorry for Ashley Simpson.
Him.
Feel sorry for us.
This is really gross, but and this is what we do, we press on regardless for you, the loyal listener who has stuck with us through thick and thin and.
Also features next. I know. And I hate seafood. Can I just make that known?
Yeah. I feel like maybe I feel like a bit of Bobo up the Jackie might help the dog. This is terrible.
Yes, so this smells not a good time for me. Also featured the follow up singles Shadow and La La. Remember that one you make me wanna La La in the middle of the floor and.
Oh, you don't even want a. La La yeah.
The that was just gross.
Yes, it. Yeah, it was pretty gross. OK, don't put your La La on the floor.
Wasn't it? Yeah.
Pick it up. Clean up your lala.
Yes, no one needs to see. We also had now that's what I call music #58 the UK one, not the US one, released and I couldn't be bothered talking about it. So just play the ad.
It's here now 58. With the number one from shape shifters. 42 massive hits. All the latest chart smashes the. Just got better. Now 58, that's what I call music.
Wow, that guy sounds like he announced his trains. It's here. The train on platform #1 is leaving the station.
Thomas the Tank Engine.
Mind the gap.
I just had visions of, you know, the guy that I share his stuff on our page all the time. I can't think of his name, but he mimes to all of the different compilation albums and he's got about 100 different wigs and he always wears wigs that look like the artist and he sings into a spatula.
Ohh that guy is very funny. Yes. That's right. He spent all that money on wigs and he can't even afford a prop microphone.
On his wings. I sent him. I sent him a message and I'm just so love. Your range of wigs and he said thank you. He's lovely. He's lovely. Every time I share his stuff, he'll send me a little thank you or prayer.
Was very grateful, wasn't he?
Hands.
Isn't it amazing? Isn't it amazing the kind of world that we live in these days whereby.
Lovely guy. That my idol is someone who sings. Into a spatula? Yes.
And honestly, that is some of the best content out out on the socials these days, I mean.
It is. I love it. It makes me smile every time.
You know, we we exist in a society right now where for the last 3-4 weeks at the time of recording the most famous person on the Internet is the Hock Tour girl who talks about spitting on a penis.
He puts up a new video. So good. Oh yes. What's going on there? Yeah, I know. And it's the one year anniversary of the woman that saw the guy with the lizard eyes on the plane.
That.
Remember. Her that I can't believe that's been a year that doesn't.
Yeah.
Feel like a.
This is this is.
Year ago, when the one was going you're he's not real. He's not real. That girl you pay.
Yes, you don't need to.
Can you believe that's?
12.
Months, you know, and and and back in 2004, we were heaping in on Ashley Simpson for.
That's crazy.
Thinking and now?
Look at all.
The stupid people we make famous these days.
On TikTok for lip syncing. Milli Vanilli would be outraged. One of.
Well, 1/2 of them would be spinning in their grave. Or would they? Would they get someone else to spin for them? It was all going so well. We had a nice flow like we were talking about and then we hit the music segment and things just went off the rails completely. I'm blaming the dog. I'm being honest. I'm blaming the dog. It that this is not boating very well for us for the rest of the evening. Anyway, we're into the entertainment.
Yes, yes, yes.
Section. So please stick with us. There was two massive movie releases this week, one being the number one at the US box office, which was I, robot.
We designed them to be trusted with our homes. With our way of life. With our world. But did we design them to be trusted?
The rollout of USSR's new generation of robot, the NS-5, was marred by the death of designer Alfred Lanning.
And defied.
There's a new trick for a robot respond murder him.
We're going to miss the good old. Days. What good old? Days when people were killed by other people.
My robots don't kill people. That thing threw somebody.
Out of a window is that registering with you?
They robot cannot harm a human being.
You trust them, if you.
Want to look too robust for protection? Imagine the loss of all that we've gained because of an irrational paranoia.
Just thinking you're the last sane man on the face of the earth. Make you crazy as if it does.
Maybe I am.
Baby, you can be looking in the shadows all the time.
You know, every time I hear Will Smith. Now all I hear is keep my wife's name out your mouth. Yeah. So I robot is actually based on a a science fiction novel by Isaac Asimov. One of the greatest science fiction authors of all time. And it's about certainly year 2035. So not that far away.
What's? Yes.
Really something like a decade like 11 years. I mean, you know, there there's not even gonna be robots in 11 years. It's there's gonna be.
Hmm.
Yes.
You all have to have electric cars from now on, and we're gonna charge you heaps of money for them. And basically we're gonna own you. That's what's gonna happen. We're gonna be the robots. Well, that went dark pretty quick. Sorry. Anyway, the year is 2035. According to I, robot and robots are common assistance and labourers for humans. And Detective del spa. Sooner, that's Del Spooner, played by Will Smith. He's he. He doesn't trust the robots. He's not a fan of the robots and he's there to investigate an apparent suicide of Doctor Alfred Lanning, who was played by James Cromwell, who's a scientist at the Robotics Place. You see the Boston Dynamics guys, who maybe he was one of the guys that.
No, no.
MHM.
Fix the robot all the.
The one with the dogs is that them? The dogs? Yeah, they're scary dogs. Why would they? Why couldn't they make them more like a cavoodle? It's it's they're. They're like those dogs that guard.
Time. Yeah, they make them fall over all the time. Yeah, they just dogs. And they've got humanoid. Ones as well.
Well.
You know that armed and dangerous movie? What are those? Dogs where they cut their ears? Yes. Why do they make them look like Dobermans? Why couldn't they do like a?
Ohh, like Dobermans, yeah.
Toy poodle like.
Kind of. Don't they kind of look like a box with dog legs on it?
No, but they look like a scary dog. They could at least make it huge.
Yes, a scary dog made of metal that you could potentially mount a semi automatic or an automatic because if it was semi automatic somebody have to run behind a.
Yes. Dangerous.
Dog and pull the trigger which? Is stupid anyway, so he's he's the scientist. The robotics. But he suspects that a robot called Sonny, who is voiced by Alan Tudyk.
Kills.
Who was washed in? Firefly and been in a whole bunch of. Films the robot might actually be involved in the death, which would mean that they that he's violated the laws of robotics, which is like do not hurt anybody and then he goes deeper and deeper and there's this big conspiracy with their rebellion of robots against the human creators cause the Boston dynamic guys have kicked him too much. And then Bridget Monahan's character, she's a robot. Psychologist. That's right. You read it right. Robot psychologist.
So the the robots can go to a shrink.
Year 2035 and the robotics has come so far that the robots actually can speak to a psych. I mean, that's far off. Was visionary. He'd be so disappointed.
They need counselling, they need some. Help. Well, they're on earth. You know. You're on earth for five years. Yeah, you probably do need. To.
Asimov would be very dizzy. Pointed.
I I like this though because I like that the robots are doing household labour. They're not like the GPT that does all the fun stuff. They're actually doing the jobs that you don't wanna do. I I I think the eye robot is better and I'm willing to take the risk.
Here though, they should be here. That's right.
Well.
I agree. So it's a great movie. Spooner and Calvin worked together to thwart Vicky's plans are still order because it turns out that you know Carl Calvin, the psychologist, thinks that there's something where there's a conspiracy and things happen. And I can't actually remember the ending because.
How would you even counsel the robot?
How would you counsel the robot?
As a counsellor, I feel like I'd be a bit. Tricky with a robot.
Just plug them into the USB port of my computer and go to the disc utility and reformat them. That's what I would do $347.2 million worldwide mixed to positive reviews from critics. Will Smith was praised. They loved the visual effects. Some criticism for its deviation from Asimov's.
What?
Wow.
Or. Original vision and you know, somewhere along the line, Roomba, the robot vacuum company actually call their vacuums I, robot. Ohh, they do? Yes. So I'm wondering, you know if it's having an off day, if it's feeling a bit down, whether it could go to Susan Calvin, the robo psychologist. Yeah. What's going on Roomba I'm feeling.
Have a bit of a chance maybe.
A bit dusty. You know.
I just it's.
Weird I robot and and 2035 not that far away.
Is it though? Is it that weird? I think we should all go and rewatch it and go oh. Yeah. OK, that's.
Do you honestly think well, the first thing I'm gonna do is if my my well, I don't have one yet, but maybe by 2035 I will my robot vacuum cleaner tries to kill me. I'm just gonna walk down a flight of stairs.
We're getting there. Little Roomba. I know you want one.
Done sorted, there was another big movie came out in Australia. The number one film in Australia was King Arthur.
For centuries. Countless tales have been told of the legend of King Arthur. But the only story you've never heard is the true story. That inspired the legend.
Welcome to our.
Table to you, noble Knights, your discharge papers.
To free you.
Before Arthur became King, he was a soldier who wanted to return home.
We have been fighting here for 15 years.
I want peace. Lancelot. I've had enough.
Before Guinevere became queen.
My father told me great tales of.
You, Arthur and his Knights?
She was a warrior fighting for her people.
A vast and terrible army has come to destroy this country.
Before there was a. Legend these people need our. Help. There was a man who would unite a nation.
This place, this land, is the last outpost of freedom of everything you hold dear.
Lord.
Hide my hand and Excalibur. I am ready.
Nice if this be our destiny, so be it. But the history. Remember that as three men we chose to make it so.
They reckon that this was a more historically accurate version of the telling of King Arthur. There's no actual proof that King Arthur ever existed.
Was gonna say. Well, where's the where's? The true story how do we know?
Hmm.
What the true story is?
Well, it's and it's a reason they took a lot of creative licence. I don't care what anyone says with King. So said in the waning days of the Roman Empire, a more historically grounded version.
Is he the one that pulls the sword? Out of the. Stone. That's right.
Yes, Excalibur, Excalibur. That's flawed with Lancelot and Guinevere and.
A Disney instance. I think the Disney one's probably more accurate.
That you could be right. You could be right. Arthurian legends. So Clive Owen plays King Arthur. He's a Roman soldier who's tasked with protecting Hadrian's Wall and leading a group of Samarian Knights who have pledged their service to Roe as his term comes to an end of doing that, he's given a final mission by a Bishop to rescue an important family from the advancing Saxons. Those damn Saxons, the the geography. For starters, is all wrong. Because I don't know why the Saxons into the South or the north or whatever, you really have to go and have a look at more. Of. The the history yourself, that yourself, I I it's too much to get into. You could do like a whole podcast series on the historical inaccuracies versus the accuracies of this movie. The whole thing, Arthur legend. I'm sure there's heaps of podcasts that describe it.
Diagrams.
Family tree.
Needless. Say you know there wasn't even talk of the affair between Lancelot and Lady Gwynevere or any of that sort of stuff, so I don't know. But Joel Edgerton was in there. That was good, and still, and Skarsgard was in there as the Saxon leader, Cedric and.
Hmm.
Is he related to the good looking scars started from through blood? Those scars scared boys, are they?
He's I think he's the elder Skarsgard. Yes, yes. And of course they, well, they're yes, good jeans. They do have good genes. The scarf, scarves. Hmm. Anyway, the whole thing climaxes in a massive battle. And Arthur unites the Britons and they get a table and they all sit around it and talk.
The skull sounds, yeah.
Whatever. I don't know. There's no Merlin. There's. How can you have the King Arthur story without Merlin the magician? He need a Merlin. He was too busy putting gaffer tape across his mouth, saying free the refugees.
Yes, actually, yes, good point. You should have. It's gonna say anything. Could play good, Merlin.
Sorry that Big Brother joke from way back. Not many people would remember it.
I remember I remember it.
Yeah. Anyway, didn't do too bad 203.6 million at the box office worldwide. Notable cast, high production values, etcetera. But people were like.
Well, that was a good joke. Thank.
Yeah, whatever. Some said. Ohh, this is great. It's a much more realistic take on something that happened thousands of years ago that wasn't correctly documented in the 1st place. Yeah, good. Excellent.
Everybody next to that, anyone.
Let's go to the small screen then, shall we? The 18th of July, we had a really big television premiere.
It's about that time to break.
I want to see.
To pause. Yeah. This is based on well, was it loosely based on the life?
Feel it, feel it.
Loosely based on the life of Marky.
Mark. We are talking about the show's entourage.
That's just giving me a flashback cause we we got mad into it, probably like two or three years after it came out. We're a bit.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, it was pretty fun. I liked Jeremy Piven. I love Jeremy Piven in this show as Ari Gold, the manager.
Slow to get them bored, but we enjoyed it, didn't we? Zari. Ohh. I know. So comedy drama follows the life of rising film star Vincent Chase and his close knit group of friends from Queens, NY as they navigate the highs and lows of Hollywood. So Vince is a young actor. He quickly becomes a star and he's constantly hanging out with his friends, Eric E Murphy, his best friend and manager Johnny Drama Chase. He's just Kevin. Kevin Dillon's drama. Yeah, I wonder why he's half brother and struggling actor.
He was my favourite character. Johnny Drama took into yeah Matt Jones brother.
And there's turtle. Yes, Jerry Ferrara. Drama was his brother. Turtle was his driver and assistant, and I think.
Turtle turtles, yeah. Ohh no. Yes, drama was his. Half. That's right.
Yes.
Turtle also wanted to be an actor. Yeah. And then they're obviously supported by the brash and relentless agent Ari Gold, played by Jeremy Piven. So yes, it is based loosely on the experiences of Marky Mark Wahlberg when he transitioned from a music career.
Hmm.
Into becoming a a successful actor in in Hollywood.
Ohh Lance Armstrong wouldn't like. You can't compete as an actor after you've transitioned from a music career, no?
After you transition from. No way. They're not good vibrations at all. He was executive. Producer on the show and inspired the main character, Vincent Chase.
Yeah. So did he. Play. He was gonna play Aquaman, wasn't he? Remember, the whole thing was he built about the big superhero thing was gonna be Aquaman. It's been such a long time since.
Like man, I know that. Well, that was a whole. That was like one of. The seasons wasn't. It the third season and they pronounced it Aquaman, Aquaman I.
I've seen. Did they? Yeah.
Love these curls.
Yes. Yes, he had very curly hair and piercing blue eyes. He was quite dreamy. Yes. Yeah. And then Aquaman ended up being Jason Momoa. Very different. Oh, sorry, Aquaman. That's that's the New York Boston type accent, I guess from those guys. So the Aquaman. Get the car? Yeah, so.
He had nice tails. Girls got the girls. He was very Jeremy, wasn't he? Aquaman.
The creator developed it with input from Mark Wahlberg. We said all of that. And it it really nothing really happened in it. I have to say.
But it was so popular, so popular.
Well, it was it. It had a good dialogue. There was one scene where one of them had to fight Ronda Rousey. And if they, and if they beat her, then they could date her and she punched the crap out of her. There was always good cameos in it, always good cameos, but I think Family Guy, the guys from Family Guy summed it up really quickly and easily when they did entourage every episode of every season of Entourage.
Yes, yes.
This is it in 10 seconds.
No way, Vince. We cannot do that. There's no way we can do that.
Actually, Vince, it turns out we can do.
That cool?
And seen.
And then it'll flop at the end with someone flashing their *****. There's a lot of ***** in Entourage, and I think people loved it because it gave a bit of a glimpse into the glamorous world of Hollywood, the business, the personal lives of actors and their entourages.
That's it. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty much it. Hayden. ISM say all paganism, yes.
Yes, the *****. All the *****. All the sex. There was a lot of chemistry amongst the cast as well. I think they really played off each other. Really. It was a really good casting.
It was really great. I think they must have had a good time making the show. Yes, yes. You'd like to think so, yes.
I think they must have all been. Friends. Yeah, yeah. Like you said, the cameos there was a lot of cameos in it and I think that the stand out for most people was Ari Gold, the foul mouthed. Agents, and I think he won. A lot of awards as well for. For playing that role.
So.
Well, I think he kind of put Jeremy Piven on the map as an actor, like he'd been in heaps of other stuff. I remember him in comedies like PCU, Pit party a