Fat Joe leans back and Lady Liberty comes back

🎙️ Hey, throwback junkies! It's time to dive back into 2004 with our latest podcast episode, where we unpack the year’s most iconic moments in news, music, and entertainment!

🔥 Supermarket Inferno in Paraguay: A tragic fire in Asunción turned a regular shopping day into a catastrophe, leaving 396 dead and over 500 injured. The blaze exposed shocking safety failures, locked exits, and a lack of emergency preparedness, leading to calls for reform and a haunting reminder of the importance of fire safety regulations.

🚀 MESSENGER's Cosmic Journey: NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft launched from Cape Canaveral on a mission to unravel Mercury’s mysteries. From mapping its surface to uncovering icy secrets at the poles, this mission brought us closer to understanding the smallest planet in our solar system.

🗽 Lady Liberty Reopens: After the post-9/11 closures, the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty reopened, symbolizing resilience and hope. Visitors were once again able to take in breathtaking views, rekindling national pride and unity.

🎶 "Lean Back" Takes Over: Terror Squad’s “Lean Back” featuring Fat Joe and Remy Ma had everyone grooving with its infectious beat. Scott Storch’s unique production and a cheeky lyric about Roy Jones Jr. turned this hip-hop track into a cultural phenomenon and dance craze.

🎵 Pitbull’s Debut: Pitbull dropped his debut album “M.I.A.M.I.,” featuring the hit "Culo." This album marked the beginning of Pitbull's journey to becoming a global music icon.

👾 Doom 3 Hits the Shelves: Doom 3 brought horror to the gaming world with its spine-tingling survival gameplay. Navigate Martian bases, battle demonic forces, and experience the cutting-edge graphics that set new standards for the genre.

🎥 Shyamalan’s "The Village": M. Night Shyamalan’s thriller took us to a mysterious town shrouded in secrets and suspense. With a twist that left us questioning everything, it’s a film that lingers long after the credits roll.

🎸 Busted’s "Thunderbirds / 3AM": Busted rocked the UK charts with their pop-punk anthem, reaching number one and becoming the soundtrack of a generation. This was the last hit before Charlie Simpson shifted gears to Fightstar, leaving fans craving more.

📚 "R" is for Ricochet: Sue Grafton’s latest mystery novel left readers debating whether the series had run its course or if Kinsey Millhone still had a few tricks up her sleeve.

📺 Reality Show Shenanigans: "Who Wants to Marry My Dad?" delivered family drama with a reality twist, as kids helped their single dad find love in this quirky dating show.

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Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:26 show opener
• 8:52 news
• 24:12 music
• 47:15 movies and tv
• 54:56 gaming
• 1:00:46 books we didn't read
• 1:08:18 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:15:02 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2004. Your polyphonic ringtone habit is sending you broke. George W Bush is sworn in for a second term, and in spite of everything going on, the most controversial thing is a wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Wait. 

Of one August 2004. 

T minus. The rest is history. You know what? Was very forgetful 20. Hello. 

There. Stop trying to make fetch happen. 

What we waiting for? 

This is harder than I thought it would be. 

My fellow Americans. 

Let's. Roll. 

We are cranking up the nostalgia dial all the way to 2004. It's the podcast that we like to call t -, 20 where we take you on a trip down memory lane, back to when low rise jeans ruled when flip phones were cutting edge tech and you'd never miss an episode of The OC. Quietly, never watched an episode of The OC. Every week we do this, we dive. Deep real deep into pop culture news events. Anything that defined our yesteryears. So folks, grab your frosted tips, dust off your Myspace profile and join me and my lovely host Mel as we rewind the clock and make fetch happen. And Mel, you definitely make fetch happen. Hello. 

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Hello everybody. We are rewinding to 1st to the 7th of August, all the way back in. 2000 and. Four this length. 

It was all happening this week. 

10 -, 20 seconds we're still. Go entering the terminal phase 15 seconds. Locks topping now underway. Green board 109876. 

We'll get to the rest of that. We'll find out what happened when they get to one. I feel like that guys, energy didn't really match mine then. No, it's a. 

Move. 

Bit. Of a mismatch, but that's in the news. A big space thing. 

No. 

Happening in the news. 

Roy Jones came to knockout. Fat Joe had his getaway plan and everything he got. 

OK. 

It was gone in half. 

Here she was about OK. 

A minute. Man, I had to tell him. Please don't knock me out. 

Roy Jones was gonna knock out Fat Joe. 

Yes, thanks to lean. 

Back. Ohh. As promised, Mel's gonna tell us all about the story behind lean back. 

Lean back, lean back. Nearly ended in a fight. 

We have always had since the day we settled here, a gentle understanding with the creatures who. Live beyond our borders. 

That is not the latest policy speech from Pauline Hanson. What is? So what do you think? That's a movie that came out this time 20 years ago that had everybody shook. I think I'm. I'm trying to remember if I saw it actually, but I'm sure it'll jog my memory when we get to that part of the show. 

Ohh movie. Wow. 

Hmm. 

I have no. Idea that is. 

Yeah, it's a movie, OK. All right. 

But current day we are all going Olympic crazy because the Olympics have just gotten underway. 

Ohh, we've got Olympic fever, yes. And it's it's it's it's so weird because it's only been a couple of years since the Tokyo once, but they all happened during COVID and it was. 

Because they were were. 

All postponed, so the. 

They postponed for one or two. Years, I don't know. 

Member everything from about 2020 to now feels like a year. Yeah, yeah. 

12 months. It really does. I think what I loved. Though with those Olympics like the more recent ones was. 

That I think because we've just. 

Gotten through COVID, I think the first lock down where they're about to go into the second one and we've just gotten through the 2nd. One and we all got over it. Like at the start it was a bit of a novelty. It was like we're all gonna sing together on Instagram. We're all gonna bake bread and do our yoga and all that stuff. And yeah, it was this whole common thing for everyone. We're all going. We're all in this together, you know. 

To be locked down. Ohh yeah. We still need to be doing things we need to be in it together and we need to be doing stuff. We still, in spite of the fact that we're not allowed to do anything, we still need to be seen to be doing something to contribute. We still need to form a society, even though we're trying. 

Finish. Yeah, yeah. 

To isolate ourselves as a society, right? Yeah. 

And then we got over. It and then we're all like in the. But the Olympics came round. 

Well, I I I have to say, I've been society for my entire life, so I loved it. I had a great time. 

Well, yeah, nothing new situation normal for you. 

But I also. 

Did have a great time with the. Olympics and thank you last night. 

But we got to the Olympics and I think that that was just something that brought us all back together again. It was like I I don't know how to describe it, but it was like just something to look forward to and we all. 

A showcase of the best of humanity. 

It just took our took. 

Our minds away from everything else going on, and again we were reunited but reunited by sport. We're all in. 

And it felt so good, yeah. 

The sport together it did. 

There was something about it and I've never really cared because, you know, I hate sport. I've never cared for the Olympics for some reason. 

Hate hate is such a strong word. You don't hate sport. You don't. 

That's true. I do hate sport. I absolutely hate sport, but I it was. 

OK. 

Just there was. 

Something about the last Olympics where it just felt good. It felt good. It was a nice distraction. 

So you don't hate sport because it felt good. 

It was just the Olympics and I made an exception on that one occasion. 

It's just the Olympics. I have the report except for the Olympics, which is all sports, just rolled into one. 

This. 

Yeah. Yeah. OK. 

I only like sport after a major pandemic and and when I've got the right, so it's very, very niche. But we're back in it again and I yeah, we're getting swept up in it. Aren't we a little bit? We'll look, we'll touch on cause it was obviously Olympics in 2004 but they didn't start for another week or two. So we'll 

The circumstances need to be right. Yes. OK, cool. Yeah. Hmm. Olympic fever? Yeah. Yeah. Get to those. 

Blue circle. 

Back. But I did want to while we were talking Olympics, there was a great there was a great tweet and I think it was from the wonderful Bill Murray actually. 

Oh yeah. 

As it was a little. While ago, but I think it's. I think it's excellent, an excellent idea. Every Olympic event should include one average person competing for reference. Isn't that a wonderful idea? Isn't that a wonderful idea? 

That's a great idea, just so you can see. Yeah, a control subject. 

Yes. Because you watch it and you go. Ohh jeez, that's pretty good. 

That is pretty good. 

Yeah, but is it? 

I reckon I could. 

Do that and and because you're an armchair, I think that it silence a lot of armchair critics cause I don't know about you, but for the next couple of weeks I am an absolute expert on diving. I'm a I can just tell by the size of the splash as to whether or. 

I reckon I could do that, sure, I thought. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Everything ohh diving diving. 

Not it's gonna do well or badly. 

I can tell by the way they walk to the edge of the platform whether or not they're gonna be good. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell by the way they they. No. It's the strata along the platform. For me, it's like, no, that struts all off. You're gonna belly flop and just know it. 

They're gonna. They're gonna turn it into. It's always about the splash. It's about how. They enter the water. Yep, Yep, Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just looking for every tiny floor. That a gymnast has in their routine. 

Here's another idea for the Olympics. Imagine the Olympics. But instead of being world class athletes, it's just random people who get selected like you get a letter informing you you've been selected for the national gymnastics team and you just have to do it. So like, like jury service. But for the Olympics? Yeah. Call off work today. Girlfriend. We're going to the Olympics. 

Yes. 

Wow that. That would be very stressful. 

You'll get paid. You don't have to go to your normal job. You'll still get paid, but you've gotta, like, shoot pigeons or clay. Or some go for it like Jerry Judy. 

Movies. 

Yes, Jerry, Judy. Jury Duty Olympics wouldn't. 

I feel I feel like. 

If that's the case, it would be. It would be really good. It would be really good. I'd be very stressed though. I'd hate to be called up for something like that. I'm just yeah, because I know how to make. 

That be great. 

Love that. 

Diving. Right. What would you do? What would you be happy to do? Curling. 

That's Winter Olympics, for starters. Darts, do they do darts? I don't know. I'm not sure. I lawn bowls. Lawn bowls would be good. I don't wanna do BMX. I tell you what, though, I reckon every it wouldn't matter who you would call. 

Ohh, wrong Olympic well. It's winter here. Dark, do they? BMX. No. Me. You'd hurt yourself at. 

The Americans would be gold medal in the shooting every time. Ohh, let's get into the actual show. The hatches matches and dispatches clue little segment that we do at the end of the show called hatches, matches and dispatches. We're gonna drop a clue for you right now. You can have a little guess. You can play at home if you like and you can figure out who this is. At the end of the show, a celebrity having a birthday. A hatch, actually a celebrity. 

Having a birth. 

Who was born this time 20 years ago? That said, or did? 

Yes. 

This. 

light 

Wow, what a voice. Very Disney. 

That's pretty good. You could do like the anthem at the opening ceremony with pipes like that. 

That'd be great. That'd be awesome. Should be singing at the opening ceremony. Definitely. Although I don't think that they are French. So yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So that that probably there's a hint they're not French, not. 

Yeah, beautiful. Ohh, it's in France. Ohh gosh. 

I know. 

What they do that is I know we'll find it. Yes, we'll find out at. 

So helpful. Exactly who that is now? 

The end of the show. Deep breath for the news. Not a great story to kick off the news this week. Unfortunately, on the 1st of August we had a supermarket fire that killed 396 people and injured over 500 in Asuncion in Paraguay, this was a a major, major **** up. 

You know. 

As far but the reason why this happened, we'll get into it, but basically this fire broke out at about. Day and it spread through the entire supermarket due to highly flammable materials, and this is where the crock up have an extremely poor safety infrastructure. 

They think that the fire started in the food court area. It may have been a gas leak or a faulty gas cylinder, and people inside these shops reported hearing an explosion. The four flames suddenly swept through the multi Storey building and the ground floor eventually collapsed into an underground car park. As you mentioned, deaths of 396 people, more than 500 injured. And this is where it gets even more scary. Many of the victims were trapped inside the building because they locked the doors and blocked the exits. 

Yeah. And they did that because they wanted to stop shoplifting so people would steal and just bail like they they grab whatever they wanted and then leg it through an emergency exit or whatever. So the way that they decided to combat that was to lock the emergency exits, which is, you know, not obviously a solution. 

It's terrible. 

And and This is why we've ended up with a worst case scenario here, which is terrible. So the emergency. Officers could not handle what was going on the the fire was very intense. The design of the building was garbage. The the rescue efforts were incredibly hindered and the magnitude of the disaster completely overwhelmed the country and their capacity to respond to it because Paraguay doesn't really experience. That many emergencies. So the hospitals were overwhelmed with all the wounded people coming in. Rescue organisations couldn't coordinate between themselves as to what was going on, and that's why the death toll and the injury toll was so high. 

The owners of the supermarket were arrested and later convicted for negligence and manslaughter. They are accused of ordering the doors to be locked to prevent looting like you say, and it trapped people inside. It also lacked an effective fire detection system and it failed to meet minimum safety standards, including proper emergency exits. 

This ruined Paraguay. It had a massive impact on them and it led to a lot of big safety changes and it's a shame that it took a tragedy to do it in there. Fire regulations and a greater awareness of. 

Yeah, terrible. 

Of how to actually do things with emergency exits and design buildings and put building codes in place. This is I remember it in the news and. It was just a horrible. Horrible. So imagine going to get your groceries, hmm. And then not being and then not coming home. I mean, it's just such a standard normal thing that. You do every day. And and I think with a lot of new stories at the time, it's all about terrorism and the war and all of that stuff and. Then all of a sudden. 

But this is something that could have been preventable if they had the proper emergency exits in place, and if they didn't lock the freaking. 

Yeah, like around. Doors. Yeah, like around 8 or 900 people in Paraguay either died or or ended up in hospital just for going to get their groceries. So it's a horrible, horrible news story, but we're gonna turn our attention to something a little bit more positive, which is out of space. 

Yeah, yeah. Terrible. Oh yes. 

Always better to get off the planet if you want to do something positive. Exactly. So the Messenger spacecraft on the 3rd of August launches from Cape Canaveral. 

Or somewhere else? 

T -, 20 seconds. Or still. Go entering the terminal phase 15 seconds. Locks topping now underway. Green Board 109876543 main engine start 21 and 0 and lift off of Messenger on NASA's Mission. 

It sounds like golf sounds like they're playing. Golf. 

Mercury, Planetary, Enigma and our inner solar system pitch programme is in Rule. Programme is in. 

Little golf platform. 

Control rates all look normal. Steering looks good. Now, going through the sound barrier. 

How's that? When it goes through the sound barrier, that's cool. And then they're so calm. 

I don't like that, Sam think I'm more excited, but he got excited on the blast off. I feel like his inflexions got a little bit more. 

Was like. Yeah, it was like and lift off and then further on, it's like and now going through. 

Yeah. 

The sound barrier. 

You probably need to. Be calm with the job like. 

That you kinda gotta chill. You gotta chill. 

So Messenger Messenger was the name of the spacecraft and. It stood for. 

The. 

The ME of the word mercury, Mercury's surface space. The EN from environment, the GE from geochemistry. 

Yes. 

And ranging, right? So it spells messenger ME. Yeah. Mercury surface S, space S environment EN. 

Ranging, not not. 

GE geochemistry and ranging, not range. 

Not Ranger Ranger. Sorry. Let's throw back to another episode, and if you don't listen to the podcast regularly, not gonna get that joke. So you need to go and listen to the other episodes. Yes. Anyway, so yes, there's a. 

Ranger. 

NASA space probe. 

Of a very complicated acronym. I don't like it. Annoying. 

It is. It is, especially when they're combining like 2 letters for certain parts and not it's not consistent. 

You can't do it. That's not how acronyms work. Well, messenger. 

They're NASA. They're NASA, and they can do whatever the bloody hell they like. It was a robotic space probe that was designed to study the planet Mercury, and it was launched on August 3rd. Like I said, from Cape Canaveral at the Air Force Station in Florida aboard a D2 rocket, a D2 rocket. For those playing at home. 

No, I did, didn't I? 

The goals the goals were to study mercury, surface composition, and geological history. As spelled out in the acronym to measure the planets magnetic field and its interaction with the solar wind. Yes, to investigate the exosphere and magnetosphere. That sounds cool. That sounds very. 

Magnetosphere. That sounds very X-Men, doesn't. 

Cool. 

It does, but it's those people are mutants. No. Determine the characteristics of the planets, core and polar materials and map the planets topography and provide detailed imagery of its source. 

Yes. 

Was there any ancient water discovery on? 

That's a different planet entirely. I don't think they're looking for that. 

I know, but I just wonder if ancient waters present on multiple planets. Do you know they could be? Well, I think ancient waters important. 

They're more interested in the exosphere and magnetosphere in Mercury. Well, maybe, but that's not what they're looking for on mercury. 

OK, alright. Well, how did it? 

Get there. Well, they had a very complex trajectory. They had to use multiple flybys. And they eventually. So they were, like, going around a couple of times. 

Ohh, it's like what I'm trying to park. 

Yeah, but you know how they used? I don't know. I think they use gravitational pull of certain planets, and they have to launch at a certain time, you know. Yes, yes. And then you always try and park far away and which we had in the previous episode, we were discussing that and someone reverse parks next to you? Yes. So. 

Just like when I try to park absolutely. 

Yes. 

And then someone? Reverse parks next to me. Difficult. It's a complex trajectory. 

Right. So Messenger doesn't want to mess around with that. Doesn't want to come into contact with any other vehicles, just wants to. 

No. 

That they're in the most efficient and straight course as possible. OK, so they enter orbit around March 18th 2000. What? Ohh yes. So. 

It took that long to get there. 

It takes a while to get to Mercury and that's why the trajectory is complex. So they the messenger in in spite of launching in 2004, doesn't even get to mercury or in orbit. 

2011. What did the guy wasn't enthusiastic. 

Until 2011. 

It's like yawn. This is gonna take. What, 6 years? Six years? I don't care. 

It's like, OK, we're taking off. See you in 2011, yeah. 

Why would you be enthusiastic? That's boring. 

Yeah. But it provided a lot of information as as spelled out in what it was trying to do. It gave maps of the planet surface, and yes, it found water. It found water ice, not ancient water ice in in in permanently shadowed craters at the poles. So those shadows are there's no sunlight, they're just cold and frozen it. 

Ancient. 

Water. Well, that's ancient, isn't it? That's ancient water in my books. 

It it got some stuff about the magnetic fields and the geology of the place and it got data. On the exosphere, so it did a lot of things and found potassium and sodium and magnesium in the exosphere. It did. Well did well. 

Reached its goals. 

Very good. Well done, Messenger, the mission concluded on the 30th of April 2015. So four years later and it had exhausted its fuel. And so they decided they commanded it. That unenthusiastic dude said we'll just crash into mercury, mate. Just drive in there and. 

Crashing into the surface. 

Blow up? Yes. Thought it did. 

Wow, good thing that I mean. 

So it was a controlled impact, flew into mercury, exploded, and created the crater on the planet. Bit nasty. 

Ah. Well, it's, it's. 

To all the effort and work that Messenger's done, it's like just drive in there and blow yourself up. 

I just think it's good that we can pollute other planets apart from our own, which is wonderful. Yeah. So another thing happened on the 3rd of August do. 

Disrespectful. 

I don't like that. 

You wanna know? About this one? Yes, good, because otherwise we don't have a podcast and that would be weird. We'd just be sitting here looking at each other. The pedestal, the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty reopened on the 3rd of August 2000 and. 

Please. 

More yes, it was closed to the public following the September 11 terrorists. Tax due to security concerns, I think after the attacks, so immediately after the attacks, Liberty Island and the statue itself were closed and during the closure they enhanced security pretty significantly to ensure the safety of visitors. 

Well, there's. So there's so much of an apocalyptic vibe to the Statue of Liberty. So, and I I I look at it from the perspective of like, escape from New York. Like you look at the artwork for that film and it's it's like the head of the Statue of Liberty in the middle of the. 

There is none. 

Street or you look at like Planet of the. 

Yeah. 

Where he, like the big twist at the end, his child and Heston realises that he's been on Earth the entire time and he finds the Statue of Liberty, you know, and it's like, so there's this apocalyptic vibe. So I think they got a bit worried after everything that had gone on that. 

Well, it's a pretty significant landmark and and it represents, yeah, what what it represents. So they they closed it to introduce security screening facility. 

Well, it's a symbol, right? 

These they reinforced the base and the pedestal as well, and they improved evacuation routes and emergency systems. 

And let's not forget Ghostbusters 2, where they walked down the street with the Statue of Liberty. Do you remember that with the mood slime they put? They sprayed it with all the IT. 

Oh, that's right, that was nice. 

Was a terrible smell. 

What was the one where she was in the water with all the storms and then people were tweeting that with the flood? In in New York. 

The Statue of Liberty. Ohh. That was the Roland Emmerich film. Was it the day it was either the day after tomorrow or it was like 20/20/12 or. 

What was? Movie. Day after tomorrow, one of those? Yeah, one of those storm ones. People were tweeting that going. Look, what's happened in the floods. And people believed it. It took a while for someone for people to realise that that. 

Whatever. In the floods and it's like, that's from a science fiction movie. It's fake news. Fake news, yeah. 

Was waiting for a. While anyway, so it was closed and then 3rd of August 2004 it was reopened well. 

Another ceremony. Did they have a? 

Just the. 

They did have a ceremony well. 

Of course they did. 

It's just the the pedestal that's reopened at the stage, not the whole thing. So they had a ceremony, there was dignitaries, and they did some stuff. There was patriotic performances, apparently, and speeches. 

Yeah, you couldn't go up. Top yeah. Of course there was. Of course there was. I would have. Done all of it, yeah. 

Highlighting the symbolism, of course, as a beacon. Of freedom and hope. 

Well, bear in mind like only a few weeks ago they had the cornerstone for the end of the 4th of July for the statue, not the statue. I see. I'm talking about. This is the World Trade Centre. That's yeah. So. So there's still there's sort of, you know. 

Yes, that's right. Yes, the new one. 

Opening everything back up, they're trying to restore their self esteem at this. 

Stage, but I'm reopening. Yeah, you could only go to the pedestal, the observation deck, but not the crown of the statue. I don't even know. You could go in the crown. 

Yeah. He couldn't get the call. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it had been closed for some time and I think it got closed again more recently on, I don't know when I say more recent. 

Didn't know that. 

Yeah. I mean, I'm old and it's weird and you know, like I said to you before, like between 2020 and 2024, feels like only 12 months. So I don't I, I don't know. But they they there were a lot of things that were still closed due to safety concerns. 

New York's pretty much at orange level, anyway. The statue is as a robust security plan. The Park Police, who provide law enforcement and security on the island itself, as well as Ellis Island, are part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force. They they gather this intelligence on a daily basis and react accordingly. We're not. We're comfortable with the reopening. We're not that. Learned about the elevation. 

That was deputy assistant secretary for law enforcement and security for the Department of Interior Larry Parkinson, and I just want to say, like, if you're getting paid by the letter for your business card, that's expensive. That's a big job title. Deputy assistant Secretary for law Enforcement and security for the Department of Interior. 

So the. 

Big it's a big signature block. 

Yeah. 

It's difficult. Difficult. You wanna make sure you got a word wrap like it's gotta. You've gotta have an adaptive signature block. 

Yeah, you need a font that's readable and like eight points, wouldn't you? 

There poor old Larry. Anyway, he was pretty happy with it all anyway. 

Yeah. So they opened back up the pedestal and the observation deck, but it wasn't until 2009 that the crown was reopened to the public, even though it still had limited access and. 

Hmm. 

Is in place, so when we're over there, if we wanted to, we could have gone in the crown. We must have been too tight. 

I think so. I don't. I don't know. There was some construction. There was some construction happening while we were there in 20. 

To pay to go in there. Why didn't we try and go in there? 

12. 

I think we just didn't wanna pay. 

I think there was a storm prior to that and there was some damage that happened to the statue. I don't know like, but my timeline is a little bit messed up. But I mean it's not. 

Probably the reason. Hmm. 

You know, I I it's quite an extraordinary thing to be at the Statue of Liberty. It's it's, it's. 

Yeah, yeah. After you see it in so many movies and so much footage and you're. Like ohh wow. 

Cause we've got there and there's, I mean there's not. There's nothing there except for the statue. That's it. And you're kind of on that little island, Sir. 

That's it. 

Yes, it's. An. 

With the statue. 

Yeah. 

But it is quite a thing to just be in the presence of that statue that you've seen in thousands and thousands of films. 

Hmm. 

Yeah. 

And and all of that, it was a bit of a buzz, really. And I I just, I didn't really feel the need to go up and look at the view from the crowd. I just kind of I kind of wanted to be in the in. 

Yeah. 

The presence of the statue I just didn't wanna pay. Well, yes. And I had a lot of fun photo bombing people at times. Good time, really annoying. It's this obnoxious, long haired Australian idiot doing peace signs in the back of all these other people's photos. 

Oh, that's right. You did. Yes, that was funny. 

Get into music that was a mixed bag and the news is terrible. Stories are good stories and it's kind of boring stories, but there's music. It's always the most exciting part, isn't it, Mel? For you, I think. 

Wow, it's a bit boring on the Australian tasks, so Angel Eyes, Pauline, he's still #1. 

Change. 

That'll do. 

The UK charts I don't think you're gonna be too happy about our mates. Busted number one again. Their new single this time round is Thunderbirds. 

Oh, nice. 

Well. 

Wow. 

You're 5. 

The Thunderbirds or Thunderbirds are go. 

I think. On the album was called Thunderbirds, and I think there was an EP with two, like a double side thing and then it was called Thunderbirds to go on something else, I don't know. 

That's it that. 

That's actually a tribute to the the show Thunderbirds. 

Yes, he uses footage from the show in the video clips. I wonder if they paid royalties for that. 

Good. Yeah. Well, and it's got that line that says it's always looks so cool when spaceships come out of the pool. 

Hmm. Lyrical. How witty. Geniuses. Genii. 

Yeah, it's pretty. It's, I've gotta say, you know, this is the third single from busted. How are these guys getting number ones? In the UK. 

OK, this is their 4th 4th. Really, I think they've already had slot #1. 

Like last week, we had the streets as #1 in UK and these guys knocked the streets off the UK charts. That's what I'm saying. Like you gotta you gotta roll with the punches. With the UK charts cause it is so eclectic. They one week you have something wonderful and then you can have. 

Hmm. 

You're being. 

Yes. 

Something that is to leave. 

Utterly. 

Well, you'll be pleased to know that this was their last single to enter the UK Singles Chart until the release of on what you're on in 2016, so 20/16/12. 

Yeah, I feel like it this single exited exited them and then entered the UK charts. 

So. 

But we're not gonna have to talk about them now until 2030. 6. 

What? 

Again. So 2016 was their next single that entered the charts. 

Ohh, OK, so you're forecasting like? 

So not till an episode in 2036. Yeah, we get to talk about them again. So this is the last one, so. 

If we're still podcasting in 2036. 

Grace. 

Good. Well, maybe I should be a bit nicer to them. 

Be happy in the moment. We probably should, and I think it's worth a mention, though. In 2005 Charlie Simpson left Bustard to focus on a bit of a side project. He's he called it a post hard call. His band called Fight Star. 

Yeah. I do remember this being. 

Which broke up busted. 

Yeah, but like it was just he just wanted to be a bit more of an edge, a little bit more, harder edge. But he still has that, that vocal styling that he. 

Get edgy, yeah. 

This they did that song poet mix laughter inspired by the movie Fight Club, because that was written by Chuck Pollen Wick. 

Hmm. 

Fight star I. 

Prefer that to busted. It's a bit bit. Try hard still. 

Yeah. I. Well, I. Yeah, I I think the less I say about it probably the better I think it speaks for itself really. I mean he's, you know, he wanted to be post like what does post ******** mean? So I was ******** and now. 

Now. Don't know. I'm over it. 

I'm just mediocre. That's what you are like. Really. That's what post ******** post ******** has to be mediocre. 

I like that. Let's jump over to the US charts for top five. What did that sound like? 

Yeah. 

A good idea? Hi. 

Still dancing? Just pull up my pants and do the Rockaway. Leave. Leave, leave. 

On the way to my concession. 

Slow motion. 

That. 

Ohh my God. Usher Usher is out of the number one position and only has one song in the charts. After all of this time. So run it, run it off. Give me the list. 

Out of #1. Alright, it's #5. I ain't got you, Alicia Keys. Well, he's twice in there. A few. Put the fate usher in nothing like you. 

I know you can't do that, but Alicia has been a solid #5 for a significant amount of weeks as well just hasn't budged. Hmm. 

And I I feel bad for her. She deserves more. Knew. Won't you move your body in at #4? Lean back. #3 confessions. #2. Slow motion finally hit the number one spot. Juvenile feet. The dead guy. Who was that? 

Hmm. 

I don't know what's going. With his, with his house pitches. Yeah, that's awful. That's a well, I mean, it was never gonna be good anyway, but but. 

Still can't remember. 

But so we've got move your body, which is a new one, but you don't want to talk about move your body because. 

No, because I want to talk about lean backs. I thought lean back was in new into the charts. This week was actually last week, but it's, but we'll talk about it this week because you know, we can say it again. 

OK, sure. Alright. 

Well, can you? 

Lean into it, OK? 

Don't dancing. Just pull up my pants and do the rock away. Lean back, lean back, lean Back, lean back. Come on, don't dancing. Just pull up my pants. Do the rock away. Lean back, lean back, lean back. 

Oh. 

Let's let's got Fat Joe in it, right? 

Love that song so. It's a group called the Terrace squads. 

Yes. 

Which is a hip hop collective. We've seen hip-hop collectives before. It's a bunch of hip hop artists not necessarily being in a fish group, but they just sort of coming together as a project. 

All right, yeah. Like like West Side Connection or something. 

Who's Westside dimension? Ohh. OK, yeah. And then who was the other one? There was one with, like, Eve and like, was it Rough Riders? But they they do that sort of thing. Yeah. 

That's like ice cube and some other dudes, yeah. Yeah, I think it's Roughriders. I'm sure that's a brand of condoms. But anyway, not that I mean Rough Riders. 

That's a good name. That's a good. That's a good name. For that. That. Ohh. 

It doesn't sound very comfortable. It's got UTI written all over it. If I'm being honest. 

Actually, no, it sounds like comfortable. 

But we're not here to talk about that. No, we're talking about terrorist squads, yes. 

We're no, we're not. We're not. We're took that terror. Squad hip hop. Collective who? And it feat you right. Quite right, features Fat Joe. Remy Ma is the female vocalist rapper on on this track as well. 

Hmm. 

It was produced by Scott Storch. And it's characterised very much by the distinctive Middle Eastern inspired strings and bass. 

Or I can hear that I can hear the Middle Eastern St there was a Middle Eastern inspired. Isn't that interesting in that there's war in the Middle East? 

Very, very. 

Oh yes. 

There's all these things happening, but we're getting a lot of these Middle Eastern sounds creeping into things like hip hop and rap and and dance baby boy Beyoncé. Yeah, I know. Lee back. Ohh. Holly Valance? Yeah. Turkish. Turkish. Yeah. She was in the kebabs. 

Hmm. 

Hmm, Holly the lads. Baby boy. Yes, Holly, the land. 

It's this. Ohh yes. 

In P days. But this is interesting. 

In this time, that is very true. You make a good point. 

Maybe, and I don't know if there's any kind of connection with it. I just thought I'd throw it in there for somebody. So when you're listening to the podcast, you piggies. 

That's nice. I'll go. Ohh, that's interesting. That's interesting. You think that's interesting? For like 10 seconds and. 

Ah. 

And then probably not give it another thought, yes. 

Then you forget about it. 

Yeah. And maybe in conversation you could be like, well, did you know that there was kind of a lot of Middle Eastern sounds that started to creep into like some of our modern popular culture post September 11, you know, around 2004, with songs like Baby Boy Lean Back and Kiss kiss by Holly Valance? People go. Ah, anyway, let's talk about something else. How about those Raiders? I don't know. 

Fat Joe for a second, yes. I feel Fat Joe is overlooked as far as early 2000s music goes a. 

Well, it's it's pretty hard to overlook a fat. 

Guy, I've feel that. What's love was the song he did with Ashanti. A cause he referred to as a shante. 

What's love? Got to do got to do that one, yes, yes. 

Yes, yes. And that's pretty much all that people think of Fat Joe as, but he featured on so many songs. Hmm. And he did little bits and then he did this. This song lean back. Iconic. Yeah. I think that, Joe. 

Sorry everybody. That's gonna mean to do that, yeah. Yeah, iconic. That's a big call. You think that that song is? 

I think it is. I think it is and I think. 

Electronic. 

This is the reason for many millennials having back problems right now from the DF, so leaning back, lean back too far and you slip in someones vodka cruiser. Ouch. 

For leaning back, is that really? Well, then you do something to your. 

Coccyx. Yes. Hmm, I think. Fat Joe needs more recognition is all I'm saying. Yeah, yes. 

Really. Why? What for? 

I I just think that everyone thinks Fat Joe is just what's love, but Fat Joe is lean back. Fat Joe is so much more. 

Which which is in your opinion. 

Iconic, iconic it has a dance. I'm sorry, but any song that has a dance is iconic. Unless it's the chicken dance. But that's still iconic cause you do it at the. 

Right, OK. It's nice. OK, OK. Wedding. Well, if, if by definition, yes, Nutbush chicken dance. Macarena bus stop, lean back. 

Not Bush. Exactly. Iconic. Iconic. 

OK, sure. Gotcha. 

Fat Joe has recounted many interviews at the Beat, instantly caught his attention because it was different from the typical hip hop production of the time, and I think too we were seeing a lot of dirty, Dirty South hip hop at this stage. So Nelly ludicrous, that kind of sound. So the Middle Eastern. 

Yeah, yeah. Outcast. Yeah. 

Sound of this was very different. 

That was more pop, wasn't it? Really, you know. 

And he said as soon as he heard it, he knew it had the potential to be. A hit. 

Right. Well, he was correct cause it it's it's a hit. It's in the charts. 

And. And it has a dance. Remy Ma. Was very, very. Significant for Remy Mary's career, and she was widely praised and helped establish her as a prominent female rapper. Hmm. Certified platinum. 

Right. 

Over 1,000,000 copies sold in the US and the dance move, so it's. 

Laying back was yes. What is the dance? What is the dance? It it's. This is what it's making it so iconic. Like I should know. What is the dance? I wanna know what? 

Well, The funny thing about the dance is it was kind of, it was kind of ironic because. 

That is. 

Lean back and avoid dancing too energetically, so he just he goes something, something do the rock away, lean back, lean and all he does is just sort of move his shoulders like it's a very it's a very low key. Lean back, lean back because it's like don't go too crazy, just lean back. 

Are you are you actually, are you seated? 

No, you're not seated standing up and. 

You're not seated. Well, it's good thing cause you know the in the chair. Remember, in your school, if you lean back in. 

You lean back so you. Just lean back. 

Your chair. Bring on your chair and be like, oh, you could. You could break your neck doing that. 

You'd fall off it. Well, it depends on what chair. Depend on whether you had the chairs that had the the legs where the front legs joined the back legs. Remember those ones they were like sleds. So if you leaned back on the sled chair, you were screwed. But if you leaned back on the chair with the. 

Hmm. 

Like a sled based, yeah. Didn't slide out on anything. 

Four legs. You're all. Right. For it, it's still about a right angle. Once you got to the right angle, you'll. 

You're OK, reasonably safe. Reasonably safe, yeah. 

Come on. But no, lean back. It's like really low key. So you move one shoulder back, lean back, lean back, lean back. So it was ironic. So it was like, don't go crazy, just lean back. But then it becomes this big hit and this big dance on the dance floor. Everyone was leaning back. 

Yeah. 

Just very slight, just a very slight movement. That's not a dance. Everyone's just like, like all everyone goes from busting moves on dance floors and. 

The dance Christ. You put that on at a wedding where there's millennials. 

You know, yeah. 

Guaranteed. 

So you go from doing like the sprinkler or the running man, or like the lawnmower, the shopping trolley or whatever. Macarena. And then, just to lean back. Or it's just like you just. 

Lean back, lean back. Whatever. Back lean back. 

Slightly dipping through the rock. You know what, right? That's actually a dance move that I can get on. 

Board with it's kind of a bit like you're stretching. Stretching. What's that? What's that muscle across your back that you need to stretch. 

Yeah. 

And. 

Out before you go to bed. 

I don't know, it's just slightly, you know. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, yeah, I like it. 

Well, stop your pulling a muscle when you're changing lanes. Limber it all up by leaning back. 

Exactly. You wouldn't be able to do it, except if I like. If I move too suddenly with my head or my shoulders these days my the nerves in my neck pinch so yeah. So just kind of knee back. Yeah, that's sorted it out. Yeah, that's good. Lean back. 

That's what I mean. You're limbering them up by doing. The lean back. It's almost like physio, you lean back with your physiotherapy. 

Hmm yeah, I'm feeling it. I like it. I'm doing it. 

Good song, good song. The song almost ended up getting Fat Joe knocked out by Roy Jones, so there's a there's a diss track jurul remember Jurul? 

What? How could I ever forget the herpes of music? 

Haven't spoken about. Jeffrey haven't spoken about him. For a while, haven't Jeff. 

Ja Rule. The rule I thought we'd almost get through all of 2004 without mentioning Ja Rule, but here he is. Just like herpes coming back, yeah. 

No, no. Well, there's a dish track. Coming right back, coming right back and just stinging you, stinging you when? 

Yeah, just when. Think you're done? 

You do a week. 

Just when you think you're done. 

Girls come back in 2004. There was a distract that he did against $0.50 and Fat Joe was on it. So Fat Joe's not friends with $0.50. I'll just take everything back about said about him. 

Uh-huh. Is this? Take it back. Take you back, yeah. 

It. 

So there's a diss track and Fat Joe's on it, and Fat Joe says something. I don't know. Something to the effect of I'm bringing the tea bag. 

Right. 

Even Roy Jones was forced to lean back. 

The boxer. So he's talking about Roy Jones junior the boxer. 

And when he lost, did he get knocked out or something? So he's leaned back in, getting knocked out. 

Yes. And then that's not a good that's. That's a bad move on Fat Joe's behalf. And he told the story on YouTube on Vlad TV. 

Roy Jones came to knock out Fat Joe had his getaway plan and everything he got. 

OK. 

Mark was gone in half. 

Go here. She was a bounce, OK? 

Man, I had to tell him. Please don't knock me out, man. Roy. 

That's the story. 

I see. Oh, yeah, that's the story. The story is I was telling them y'all. It's just hip hop. And he persisted and persisted. I said your word. Look, you're going to knock me out. No question. You're gonna knock me out. You see them 150 guys over there. They're not gonna be cool with that, and nobody's gonna fight you. And he looks for the side he sees, 150 is he looks at. He goes. So it was just hip hop. I said, even at day, it's like, Yo, Roy, it's just hip hop, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like. 

Wow. So he he. But he kind of threatened him with his entourage. He's like, yeah, you're gonna knock me out. That's OK. But then all of these dudes that. 

Isn't that funny? 

Are. Around me are gonna. Mess you up. They're not gonna fight you. They're gonna. Tear you to pieces. Wow with Fat Joe. 

Hmm. 

No, don't don't. He can tell a story, too. I I quite like him. I've grown to like Fat Joe. Fair bit. Except. But I don't like that he was. 

None. 

On the. $0.50 Diss Track, so I have to choose. 

No, that's not a good move. 

I choose fifty. Yeah. 

I'm on Team 50 all the way. 

UM, but yeah, don't mind. Don't mind that song. Good. 

I although you know if he's got 150 of those other dudes, whatever he can do whatever he likes, that's fine. We got an album. Have we got an album? 

Song. We do have an album. Yes. It's called Miami, which is a backronym. 

A. 

Of money is a major issue. 

I like that money is a major issue. 

I had to. I had to Google what a backronym was. You know what a backronym? It's an acronym form from an already existing word. By expanding its letters into words or. 

What is a? 

Phrase acronyms may be invented with either serious or humorous intent according to the dictionary backroom. So Miami is obviously an existing word, but they've used the letters in Miami to say money is a major issue. 

I like it. I like it bachani. Yeah. Well, that is much better use of it. Well, it's it. It's all over messenger. 

So clever. 

It does it. 

Like it really does. Like, you know, you've got. 

Maybe messengers should come up with a backronym and improve it. 

You've got all of these NASA scientists out there developing probes, smart, intelligent people, people with IQ's way beyond that of like, your fat Joes are the world, for example. And they do messenger, and then you get. 

Smart. Very smart. 

Yes, yes. 

Pitbull and he he does a better job than NASA scientists by developing a backronym for Miami, which stands for money, is a major issue which is just clean. It's neat, it makes sense. It's relatable, it's incredibly poignant. And that comes from a dude who's not a NASA scientist. He's just a Cuban American rapper. 

A backronym I know. It's embarrassing. Yes. Poignant. Yeah, I know, I know. 

That goes by the name of Pitbull. 

Good as his debut studio album, The Production was primarily handled by Little John what? Yes. And DJ Khaled, he just loves to scream over the top of songs and ruin them. Album also features guest appearances by Little John Fat Joe. He's on there. Well, little scrappy and Trick Daddy among others. 

Of course it was. Wow. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. Of course he. Is. All those, all of them, they sound like some kind of version of the Seven Dwarves on crack. 

A great gang. Yeah. Great. Friends to hang. 

Yeah. So this is his first album, cause Pitbull. Pitbull these days is a big deal. And I always thought he was just some guy that was just doing this. Like he just repeats stuff. You know, I want you want, you want boom and counting. So he says like he says, like, three things in the song and then he counts. Right. 

Out with. So. You. Me. Ohh go stress yes. 

But he's and he wears, he dresses impeccably and. And I saw a video of him recently where there was a guy at one of his gigs. And he was throwing money at him. And then Pitbull throwing money at Pitbull from the crowd. Yeah. And then Pitbull pulled him up on the stage, and he kept throwing money at Pitbull. And Pitbull punched him in the face and knocked him out. And it, like, he hit this guy hard. And I was like. 

Throwing money at people like he's a stripper or something. That's weird. 

OK, he's alright. 

Did money guy? 

I don't. I don't wanna mess with Pitbull either. 

So did money guy. I think Pitbull was pulling him up on the stage because Pitbull thought he was cool. Like so money guy money guy thought ohh people likes me. So he wasn't expecting people to punch him. 

Yeah, he's like, here you go. OK, money guy. Yeah. Yeah, which? Pitbull was quite insulted and Pitbull, I think, probably broke that guy's jaw. I don't know if he did allegedly, but it was a he, he. 

Yikes. You know, but you guys mess, you don't mess with performers on stage. 

He's crowned that guy. Well, Pitbull invited him up. On the stage. 

Yeah. OK. So he didn't. 

Pulled him out of the crowd to punch his lights out. 

Hmm. 

That's the kind of guy Pitbull is. OK. Yeah. So what? What's? 

OK, they're missing people. 

So this is. 

I love Miami. It's my favourite album. Of all time. 

Is it really? Yes. Are you just saying that cause you're scared? 

So he doesn't punch me on. 

Of Pitbull I. 

The stand for he's. 

Don't gonna do that. Just don't throw money at him. He's got plenty of his own, but this. 

Is his first one. Is this his first one? I think the biggest single from this. Album is a single called Kulo. 

What did this? How would this why? This what it is. 

Hey. Hey. 

Oh, that sounds all right. Do you? Know what that screams? At me though. Waiting in line for Guzman and Gomez. I'm not even joking in that freaking restaurant and and trying trying to order. 

Try to order nachos with. No pico de. And they just can't hear you over Pitbull. 

You and you and then, and you gotta scream over the music. 

No quark, no pico de Gallo. Just the fricking chips and the beef, alright? And maybe some cheese. 

Yeah, and that, that's. 

Probably racist because Guzman and Gomez is like, what is that Mexican food and this is Cuban so. 

It's not. 

I'm a piece clearly, but it that's just what that reminds me. I would be like excuse. 

Me, I'd like to change the chips. No, nothing. I don't wanna pick on the guy and they'll. 

Be like, OK. 

I just that's what it is. 

So strange the music is way too loud in there. I'm like, I don't wanna be at the club. I just want my freaking salad. I just want a salad too much. 

I don't you know. 

Exactly. And it. Sounds like that anyway. I'd like to apologise to to every anyone who's Cuban or Mexican, then Pitbull. 

People, I'd like to apologise profusely to people. 

Merely relating an experience that I have had as a person on planet Earth, you know, maybe message it can go and find another place out there for me, but that it was difficult first album for people, for a single cooler. 

So stop. Still, early days with people like you alluded. 

To I know you want me undo. Stress, whatever. 

Quadro. Yeah. 

Did you get to control did this? 

They did those 3 squad. I know you want me. 

I thought he even got to trace. 

You know I want it, yes. 

So. 

That was 2009. So 2004, we're still really early Pitbull days. I don't think we realised the star he was at this point. So 2009, I know you want me comes out and then 2011 is probably his biggest. He it was the give me everything you got that one. 

Hmm. 

Because tomorrow I'm also too bad perform for Princess. But now I can make it my queen and Make Love to you. Unless it's insane. The way the name growing money keep flowing. Hustlers keep growing. I gotta locked up like Lindsay Lohan. 

Yeah, locked up like Lindsay Lohan. Give me everything. So I'll be like, you know. 

Yes, I'll have the nachos. I don't. It's OK. Put it all on there, Nicky. Everything. I want it all. No, I I don't want. I don't want a. Tortilla it's. I just want the nachos. 

Give me everything. 

That song is very hectic and stressful. 

Wow, that was hectic. You know, like I listen to like heavy metal and pretty extreme music, but. The Pitbull that that stresses me out. Because it reminds me of trying to order food and not being heard correctly. I'm scared I'm gonna starve to death anyway. 

Do you feel like some quark? 

Bit of Glock, some corn chips that are nice right now. Delicious. Ohh, awesome popcorn. We go to the box office. Let's do the entertainment thing. Let's talk about movies. The number one movie in the US box office is the M Night Shyamalan. Ma Ding Dong film the village. 

Hmm. 

Alright. Do this. 

We have always had since the day we settled here. A gentle understanding with the creatures who. Live beyond our borders. We do not stray into their woods. They do not come to our village. I have always pictured them in some ways as our protectors, they have allowed us to live here. Nestled amongst them in this. Untouched place. By the markings we find this morning on our homes. I feel they were warning us. May question ourselves and moments such as these. Did we make the right decision to settle here? I fear our days of peace. Are over. 

That sounds really stressful, and it is so. 

Have you seen? 

This I I can't. I think I did. It it so M Night Shyamalan? At this stage she's star is burning very bright, so he's done the 6th sense. He's done unbreakable. He's done science. He's notoriously famous for his big twist at the end, right? 

Oh, is that that guy? OK. 

Big twist at the end and this one I think is probably the first one that didn't really do as well as what people would have expected and maybe their expectations of him were too high. So 44% from critics and 57% from the audience. People still liked it. The village stars, Bryce Dallas Howard, Joaquin Phoenix, Adrian Brody. William Hurt, Sigourney Weaver, and Brendan Gleeson. That is a big cast. Big high calibre cast. It's about a desolate town in Pennsylvania. The residents all live by really strict rules. It's like they're not allowed to leave the village or the monsters will come and get them. So and it's it's I, I I don't necessarily remember seeing this one, but I would like to go back to present day. 

Hmm. 

Oh. 

Now and talk about the fact that M night shy. Melani's daughter is directing films. Ohh really. Yes, M Night Shyamalan's daughter is directing films and I watched one that she did the other day called the watches. So this is Ishana Knight Shyamalan. This is her directorial debut and her dad produced it and it's based on a novel. Written by AM Shine with Dakota Fanning and stuff in it. So and she's trying to follow in her dad. Footsteps and let me tell. You. Nepotism don't don't necessarily mean that you can direct a good movie because it's a. 

Ohh not a fan. Ohh. 

Piece of. Yeah, it was terrible. It was a really bad film. I should probably get more into that, but we're talking about obviously the village down. But yeah, it's just M night. I mean, M night is. He's a bit of a polarising director as well. Like you either love his stuff or you hate it. I don't mind it, like uh, the last one that I watched of his was the knock at the cabin, which was pretty cool, but. He's he's always doing you kind of know what you're getting into when you go to watch an M Night Cheyenne landfill. Sixteenths was great. 

I loved the 6th sense, though that was that was amazing. 

Unbreakable was pretty good too, and then what was the other ones that they did that were the sequels to unbreakable and stuff where they were OK as? 

Yeah, yeah. 

Well, but it's. You just kind of know what you're getting into. You gotta be in a particular frame of mind to watch an M Night Shyamalan film and you don't wanna work too hard sometimes for movies. And he kind of makes you work a little bit. Art as an audience. 

Yeah. 

But you know it it it was definitely a big thing because it was like, you know, the latest film from M Night Shyamalan. So everyone got really excited about it. And in Australia, we're still waiting for stuff to arrive at this stage, cause we're still watching freaking Will Smith and I, robot. That's still number one at the Australia box office. In spite of the village coming out in America. And what was the one that we had last week? 

Hi robots. 

Was that movie? 

It was the Matt Damon, the board and. 

Yeah, it's at the Bourne supremacy. So the Bourne supremacy in the village have come out and idiots in Australia are still going to see I, robot. And it may not be because we're idiots. It may be because movies still take a little while to come out in 2004, which is a little bit disappointing. Anyway, let's go to TV news TV news. 

They do, yes. Yes, we had a show ending on the 2nd of August 2004. Very sad. Who wants to marry my dad? 

Wow. 

A dating reality show involving adult children helping their single father find love. 

Shout out to Julie. My stepmother. Yeah. I don't like the idea of this show. So this is women competing for the chance to marry the dad. And the kids are kind of like the judges. Yes, they play the role in deciding through various rounds. Who's gonna actually win? Yes. Yes. 

Yes. 

Whether or not you're worthy of my dad. 

And they have things like lie detector tests and secret facts and. 

They have a secret mole. The secret mole is actually an. 

There's a male, there's a mouth. 

Aunt who pretends to be one of the contestants. 

Yeah, ex boyfriends of the contestants turn up as well. He's. I couldn't find much from. I did. Did they play? Did this air in Australia? I'm not sure that it did, but here's a little clip. 

I don't think it did, no. 

There should be no apologies for what's said. 

I think it's a dinner party. 

Oh no, not again. 

And then this. 

This message came through on a fax. 

Oh my God. 

There's a fax machine. 

Ladies, we have great news for you. The wedding rings you picked out at the jewellery store are ready and will be delivered shortly if the doorbell rings, you might want to answer it. You ladies go together. Go see. 

Hi, are you Suzanne? Yes, he's doing alright. Good luck. 

You at the wedding. Bye. 

Yeah. So the ring was delivered to whoever that person was by a lovely little flower girl and scarf. Ah, yuck. 

Hmm. 

That was that was that was the ending of. 

It it was cancelled. Yucky it. I think it was a modest hit. It returned for 7/30/2004. This is it being cancelled. Well, you. Let's face it. You. 

I just love that the auntie is the mole. 

No. In every family there's an auntie who's a bit. Of a mole. 

Video games been a while between games, hasn't it? 

The long time between I've recently rediscovered video games as well, which has been great because I never get time to play games. But then I bought the and this is not an endorsement whatsoever, cause there's actually a bit of a pain in the to set up if I'm being honest, I've. Per the PlayStation Portal, which is like this. 

And not it's not a portable, it's a portal. 

A. Which you can't see. You can go. 

Into other worlds. 

Will not well. The only world you can go into is your PlayStation Five, which is connected to your TV in the lounge room, and when everyone else is watching TV in the lounge room, at least you can then play. Your games through the PlayStation 4. 

So it's as if you're too lazy. To go from one room to another to play your game, you just stay on your **** in the room that you're already. 

Yeah, yeah, you can just lie, lie in bed, and use your little handheld game. 

In. 

Thing. Well it's it's. 

That is so lazy. 

It might be, but I'm when you're time. Poor. It's just like it's no different to reading a book in bed. 

Ohh, because getting up and walking to the next room. Is just. 

It's no different to reading a book in bed. Gaming gaming takes a lot of time and attention, and as soon as it becomes handheld, it becomes a little bit. Anyway, this has got nothing. 

Takes up so much time, so much time. Just don't have the. Time to walk 10 steps to another. Room and buy a whole device. Because of it anyway, finish your stories. 

Can you take it easy? OK, alright. I mean, I know that it was a little bit more expensive than your book light. 

I bought that from ALDI. It was like 1299 specialised. 

Exactly. Exactly. Well, I won't tell you how I actually I I when when we went and bought it because our son and I went shopping to go and buy it cause he was like, let's get it. I'm like, yeah, let's get it. And I'm like, don't tell your mum how much it costs. And he's like, OK, I won't. And as soon as we got to the car, it's like Mum, Dad just bought a PlayStation portal. It cost him $330. 

You know each. 

Other I know says I got in the car. And I was like $330 to not walk 10 steps into another room. Good morning. 

Yeah, and and if I if I spend another probably. 

That's fantastic. Return on investments well done. 

And if I spent another $300.00 on a really good quality pair of headphones, I wouldn't have to listen to you being whinging at me about it, which would be money well spent. But we're talking about games that came out in 2004. 

Doom 3 Doom Three was released on the 3rd of August. This is a first person shooter developed by ID Software published by active. Vision set in a futuristic Martian base where players battle demonic forces unleash from an experimental portal to hell. Did you play this on your? 

Yes. 

No, because it was a Microsoft thing. No, because it was a Microsoft thing. Yeah, there's a Microsoft thing, and I can remember when everyone first got PC's and and that, like, they could play games. I don't. Doom was a big deal. And it's like, how good is doom? So this first person thing was I used to get motion sickness playing it cause you walking through this. 

PlayStation or your whatever's or your portal. That was a PC game, wasn't it? To him, yeah. Yeah. 

Hmm. 

Didn't cope very well, but it's interesting. Now the concept of this, if it was pitched as a film, probably wouldn't do so well, but as a video game. 

The Union Aerospace Corporation, an arm of the most powerful conglomerate on Earth, has been performing secret experiments in their base on Mars. Tapping into the very fabric of the universe itself and beyond. UAC scientists have made discoveries that will forever change human existence. Then something went terribly wrong. 

Ohh something went terrible and you know I say like it. It wouldn't work as well as a film plot, but then we're so starved for good film plots these days that I think they've made like two do movies. Yeah. And the rock was in one of them. 

Have they? Oh. 

So there you go. 

Pretty good survival horror is doomed 3, so it's it's more of the same stuff. Lots of except I think that the graphics and and and stuff have come a little bit further than what they did back in the day, like in the late 90s or mid 90s when you get Doom on PC, the first version so bit more immersive. And atmospheric and a bit more tense. You. Gotta go through. The corridors, as much as you did in the other one. 

Is that your? 

Fight off monsters. 

Wolfenstein sounds like Wolfenstein. We had Wolfenstein on our PC. 

Same deal, same deal as. Very similar very. 

Scared out of me. 

Similar. Yeah. Same thing. Very positive reviews for Doom 3 because the graphics gave it a bit of an upgrade. It was a little bit more horrific than the rest. Critics really loved it, thought the graphic engine and the sound design were good, and it contributed to that very immersive experience. However, some criticism directed at the linear level design. Lack of innovation in gameplay, man, it's doom. Like you know what you're gonna get if you play in. Doom, but it did create a bit more of a it kind of reinvigorated that franchise, and it actually became Doom 3 is probably the best selling version of Doom to date. I. 

Think it's the one? Yeah, it's the name I remember of all the dooms. Doom #3 is the one that's front of mind. 

Doom three out of all the. I. I just. I just remember how you used to get the chainsaw. That was really cool and and in in Call of Duty recently you've been able to be the Doom character and and wheel the chainsaw and run around. There's a bit of a throwback to Call of Duty, just ridiculous. They do whatever they want with video games these days. The last downloadable content you can play a Snoop. 

May. 

Oh really? 

Alright. 

Look like you play a Snoop Dogg in Call of Duty. Yeah, cause like, if you're going into combat, that's what you want. You want a stoned rapper next to you? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Actually, I think the latest DLC for Call of Duty you can play as like wrestlers. So like Cody Rhodes and Rear Ripley earth. 

Ohh, that's cool. That's amazing. Yes. When a doggy fizzle televizzle. Absolutely. Put Fat Joe in there. He's a fighter. 

Fat Joe. There you go. Yeah. 

Or Pitbull. I play as actually, yeah, yeah. 

Yeah, Pitbull. I would play as Pitbull as well. I feel like you'd need to get some kind of armour bonus, but you probably wouldn't be able to hear anything very well. It'd be like. 

Incoming. Just everybody hang back. 

Who games? We didn't play movies, we didn't watch, books we didn't read. What do you got? 

New York Times bestseller this time 20 years ago, we are on the fiction. 

Uh-huh. 

List this week we've jumped back to fiction. 

Ohh, we're back. So the Da Vinci Code is gone by the wayside and. 

Probably just for one or two weeks. 

Ranges out to past. 

No, this is R is for ricochet, the 18th novel in Sue Grafton's alphabet series. Remember, like you had a is 4B is 4C, is 4. We're up to R is for ricochet featuring Kinsey Millhone the Private Eye based in Santa Teresa. 

Ah yeah. 

And it's. OK, OK. We want a synopsis here. Here's some suspenseful music. And this is. 

California. 

This is from a group called Power Music Factory who do copyright free stuff. You can search for him on YouTube, Power Music Factory ready. Reba Lafferty was a daughter of privilege, the only child of an adoring father Nord. That's I think that's the dad Lafferty was already in his 50s when Reba was born. Ohh. Good. Excellent. Sewing his wild oats. And he could deny her nothing. Over the years he quietly settled her many scrapes with the law, but he wasn't there for her when she was convicted of embezzlement and sent to the California Institution for Women. Now, at 32, RIBA is about to be paroled. 

Oh. 

Having served 22 months of a four year sentence, Nord wants to be sure she stays straight and stays at home, away from the drugs, the booze and the gamblers. He reaches out to Kinsey Millhone as the blurb at the front of the book. Said it seems a straightforward assignment for Kinsey babysit Reba until she settles in. Make sure she follows all the rules of her parole. Maybe all of the week's work. Nothing untoward. The woman seems remorseful and friendly, and the money is good, but life is never that simple, especially for Kinsey. Reindeer is out of prison less than 24 hours when her old crowd begins to circle round. I don't know what that means. I don't know, but I guess she fell in with the wrong crowd in their back. And poor old Kinsey has to deal with Reba and all the baggage he has. And Nord is just like paying for her to do it. Cause Nord doesn't want to be responsible because he's like, that's right. Exactly. She'd when I'm 50, I'm pushing. 

Just tangled up in this mess. Well, no, it's tired. No, it's like 70 something at this stage. They just wanna have. A nap. 

70 and somebody else looked. 

Like fish? 

Off the rabbi for God. Sakes. 

I'll any one star D is for disappointment. This has to be the. Worst in the series. 

Well, OK, cool. That's that's pretty direct, Lenny. You know, I like that, though. I like that Lenny's given a concise review, so if you're on good reads, then you know what you're gonna get and you're like, OK, cool. I feel any one star says that D is for disappointment. I like the fact that she. 

Hmm. 

Hmm. 

Thanks, honey. 

Used the letters. 

Yeah, creative. It's not the only. 

That's it. Does very, very quick we did. One Pink Nantucket one star. What a shame this book wasn't. See, it's for calls. So I could make a clever joke about what the novel really should have been called. I can mate. She is so many letters in the alphabet back from. 

Like I know. 

That's like, that's like if somebody insults you and then you think of the. Come back. The next day? Yeah. Like. Yeah, the jerk store called, and they ran out of you. You know what I mean? Like, it's that George Costanza kind of moment, you know? So what? So she says I can think of several derogatory words to begin with. So also I can I in Australia, but most of the time it means your mates with someone but none that start with an. 

Five years later. 

Ah, so you can't think. Think of any derogatory words that start with R. 

No. No, I think she thought of one off the top. Of her head. 

The best I can think of off the top of my head, you're right. OK, you're reading ahead, and I don't appreciate it. 

Thank you. Sorry. 

It's R is for rap, which is kind of cheating. Well, yes. OK. 

Why is that cheating? I don't know. 

Yeah, exactly. But it's 2 words maybe, I think not in Australia, right is one. Word it is, yeah, yeah. 

Hmm. 

Judy. Blood check. Blood. Check. Blood check 2. Stars. 

Right. 

Twice, she describes women who are braless as without benefit of a Brazier. Where was her editor? That's. A good point. I'd be annoyed if you used something like like. 

A benefit of a Brazier twice. 

Why? That's something that you'd only use once. 

Well, yeah, but it depends on how far apart they are. 

No, that feels like something that you're using for scene setting and you want it to pack. A punch. 

Yeah. 

You don't then go and use it again later. In the book. 

Yeah, because as soon as they say without benefit of of a Brazil like. 

This book's got **** in it. 

**** are out. Yes, we're in. For it nips, nip slip. Yeah, but you don't. You wouldn't say. That twice and. If you really wanted to go with. The. Not wearing a bra joke? You'd then use something different because that would be funny, but why would you need to do it twice and you wouldn't use the same turn of phrase I? 

Hmm. 

I'm with you, Judy Belichek. 

I really like this one, cayenne Ross. This is my favourite pepper, by the way. Cayenne pepper. Kane. Ross, this is so good. I decided to call Rebas father, Lord Neferty instead of Nord. Lafferty. I hope I'm not the only one. 

1st. 

Ha ha ha ha ha. 

Good. I would do that. That is something I would do. 

And then you'd sign up to Goodreads and you'd put a comment in there. You'd do a review just to let everyone. 

I I give I give. 

Know how clever you are? 

He didn't even give it a start. He just put that comment in there. And I'm like, Yep, Kane, Ross. That's amazing. 

So creative you would you would have many ways to describe someone not wearing a bra too. I'm sure cayenne good on you. 

Lord Lafferty, Lord neferty. Perfect. Yeah. 

John One star is Grafton cashing cheques from mcdees by my count. Kinsey eats at least three quarter pounders and five egg mcmuffins in this. Book. 

Ohh, they think she's been sponsored by McDonald's. 

Love that. John's counted what she's eaten from McDonald's, that's all. Pounders and five egg mcmuffins. 

That's hilarious. That's so good. 

Egg mcmuffins, can you get just egg? Isn't it bacon, an egg or sausage and egg? 

I'm sorry. 

Shouldn't ask for a bacon and Egg Mcmuffin with no bacon. 

But egg is Egg Mcmuffin on the menu. Is that a menu choice or is that a special order? I don't. I don't think you can just get it. I think it has to be sausage and egg or bacon. 

Maybe. 

Possibly in the states, I'm not sure do. You know what, though? And egg? Well, yeah. I don't know if there's any sausage in. This there's definitely boot. But also what I really like is and and this is a perfect opportunity. You know how these days like it's with happy meals? It's. Like Ohh you can he used to get a toy, but then that wasn't PC to just get a toy. No you get. 

Ohh, now you get an apple. 

A toy or a book? Ohh book. So I'm just saying, like Sue Grafton, you imagine if that. 

Ohh. 

Was areas for ricocheting your happy meal? 

Just one week in your Happy Meal, R is for ricochet. Yeah. 

You'd have to. Be careful with the Boo. 

Bits. It might make a few parents grimace. Ohh, we got there in the end. Attaches matches and dispatches and we've got for our clue this. Wait. An actual hatch, somebody who is turning 20. Someone who popped out, born this time 20 years ago. Who? I don't even want to say that it's kind of gross. Yes, yes, there was born that said this. 

Came out of somewhere. 

Yeah. 

Somewhere out there, the Neath the. 

I can sing. 

She got pipes, she. Got pipes? Do you have any idea? I have no idea who. That. Is, but the show notes tell me it's Savannah Shore, and if you said Savannah Shaw. 

No. 

You would be correct. 

Savannah is part of the duo Matt and Savannah Shaw. Matt is actually her dad. Matters poppy. They're from Utah. They began releasing music during the pandemic, so during lockdown. 

Hmm. 

So they were one of these kind of YouTube live streaming music. People both like, you know. 

Well, not until lockdown. So Savannah was in a choir and her choir practises were cancelled because of the pandemic and we were in lockdown. 

Hmm. So Dad was like, I'll sing with you. 

She creates her first social media account to stay connected to her friends, and then she's thinking, I want to do choir practise and I want to sing. But she didn't want to do it on her own. So she got Matt, her dad, to sing with her. They sang the song. The prayer. Isn't that like Anthony Kelly's favourite song? 

Right. Well, yes, but he didn't. It's not originally his song, but yes, Anthony Golia, that's how. That's how people in Australia would know it because of Anthony Kaleah's big performance on idol. 

No, but he like he does love to sing us. Loves the prayer. 

Yes. 

Place where we'll be. 

I pray we'll find your love. 

Pray we'll find you love. 

Oh yeah, there's that. You can hear it in the jeans. So in the jeans. 

She was too shy to sing it on. The road so Pops jumped in and helped. 

Dad did it with her. That's. Bull, I reckon. I reckon Dad just wanted to be a the piece of the action staged that for sure. He's like he's been singing for ages. You can tell he's been singing for ages and he's like God dammit, Savannah. You're gonna be a singer if it's the last thing I do. Yeah. Exactly. And then it's like she's gonna do this and he's like, well. 

That's the story. That's the story. Well, he probably pushed her into choir. Yeah. Stage dad dance. Dad. Yeah. 

I'm I'm there too. Is that that's a bit too sinister. It's probably much more innocent than that. 

They do seem like lovely people so. You should shut up, yeah. 

Do they? Well. 

So they sang it. They sang it. I think they published that on Instagram and it went viral. They put it on. 

Yeah. 

Uh-huh. Of course it did. Look at this father and daughter doing this beautiful rendition of the prayer cherche. 

Yes, we're all locked down. We're all. We're all like sanding our teeth and doing yoghurt and baking bread. Ohh look at. This this is nice. It's much more interesting. 

The prayer I tell you what this is definitely. This is definitely one of those albums that, that, that they would bring out. 

Than being alone with. That string just handling it. 

But you know, around Christmas time on Mother's Day that you could give to old people, old people love it. Well, do they, though? Because I don't think old people listen to this sort of anymore. I think old people listen to. 

Alternative. Well, I probably can't hear it and they just smile and. Nod. 

I think old people like I think like nursing homes these days are full of like Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. 

Imagine when we're in nursing homes. It's gonna be freaking Pitbull and bloody lean back. Lean back. 

Indeed. Brother. Ohh my gosh. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be like. Hey, hey, everybody. Welcome to Aqua aerobics. 

Yeah. 

I'm a hip. 

And I'm not disappointed. I'm not disappointed. I would enjoy that. 

No, all like you know, it's like I I can't get off the bathroom. 

Don't dance. You just pull up my pants and do the rock away. Lean back. 

Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. 

Up your pants and justice lean back. 

Yeah, exactly. That's got it. That's sorted it out anyway. So I don't think that old people are gonna be buying this stuff anymore. I think they're gonna be buying the stuff that we're into, cause we're getting old. But this did very well. Savannah Shaw and her dad did very well. 

Great life lesson. 

It did very well. We loved it. We loved it during the pandemic and Kelly Clarkson loves it too. 

It's so beautiful, like the how y'all sing together. It's so perfect. It's just such a beautiful thing. Especially especially as a father. Daughter thing. What a beautiful thing. I'm so excited for. Now there's the new album tomorrow, but there's also something else that's very exciting, right? 

Yeah. So tomorrow we're releasing our third album in eight months, which is crazy. You know, when I think back on this journey over the last year, you know, I it's, it's been just amazing. And we're so humbled and really it's started in earnest right here on the Kelly Clarkson show. So thank you. But yeah, we have something really special tomorrow where we get to. Perform our first headline concert for a live audience right here in Salt Lake at the beautiful Eccles Theatre. They're going to allow 1100 people and for us, you know, our music was born in the pandemic. And so for we we haven't been able to do a lot of live singing. And so we're just excited for the. Emotion and the power. And you know the energy of of this return to live music for us. We think it'll be really special. 

OK, you're right. That is a stage dad. How was he speaking? That was very, very rehearsed. Yes. 

It would be special. For sure, he's driving the whole thing also third album in eight months. OK, so, so. Well, you're just singing other people, aren't you? Because that's not yours. You can't do. You can't write an album like a month or whatever. Three albums every two months. Or they can sing. 

It's all part of the plan. Well, they they can sing. They can sing. They sound amazing. 

And I think that's the reason why they harmonise together so well is obviously because it's in the genes, right? So they work together really well. They sound great together. They do. They sound great. Disney should sign him up and get him to sing a bunch of. 

Yes. 

Golf. Well, you and I sound great doing Hoobastank the reason. Same reason. No, but we know each other. We know each other. We know. 

Yeah, but we we're we're not related. And if we are, that's yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes, we. Yeah. 

Each other well. We live in under the same roof. We know how to harmonise. 

Yeah, but like what I'm saying is is it's genetic. So obviously his DNA is in her. I can put my DNA in you later on, but it's not going to help us sing better, OK. 

Ohh OK ohh DNA. 

I don't know if that's too appropriate, but it's at the end of the show anyways. That doesn't matter. Well done, happy birthday, Savannah shore, whatever. Ohh, happy birth and birthday. It's the 20th. She still can't drink in the states anyway. Although I don't reckon her dad's gonna let her when she's 21. Regardless, that's. 

Again, no one's listening anymore. Everyone's stopped running. Happy birth and subsequent. 

The end of. The show? That's this. We're done. What's happening next week? 

Yes, good. 

Anything. 

Ohh, it's the Olympics. Obviously 2004. Where are we? Athens, isn't it? Yes. So we'll be going. We'll be going. Olympic crazy. 

Of course. Ah ah. 

Yeah, all the Athens Olympics. Ohh, it's just going to be. So the whole thing it's gonna be. Hey, excellent. Thank you so much. Mel hates sport. I love the Olympics. Mel loves the Olympics too, don't you? 

Freaking fantastic. I'll get caught up in the excitement, I'm sure. Yeah, maybe still have sports. 

I don't want to speak on your behalf. But I will speak on both of those behalf, both of ours behalf. That's good English. Just thanks for listening and we really appreciate you. And you can find us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, search for t -, 20 podcast. We love you. Thanks for supporting us. We'll see. You next week. 

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