Blair, Britpop and a Boulevard of Broken Dreams

Tony Blair breaks records as the longest-serving Labour PM—but let’s be real, his coolest moment was inviting Oasis to Downing Street. (Noel Gallagher later called it awkward, which is ironic coming from him.) Meanwhile, his approval ratings nosedived over the Iraq War. Yikes.

Over in the world of extreme determination, Ellen MacArthur sails solo around the world in 71 days, surviving on power naps and sheer stubbornness. 🏴‍☠️

The Super Bowl goes corporate after ‘Nipplegate,’ giving us Paul McCartney instead of wardrobe malfunctions. 🏈 Meanwhile, Google Maps launches, changing road trips forever—and giving us the worst navigation arguments of all time.

On the charts? Green Day’s ‘Boulevard of Broken Dreams’ cements its emo anthem status, Eminem reflects on rap feuds in Like Toy Soldiers, and Nelly teams up with Tim McGraw for a questionable country-rap crossover.

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:22 show opener
• 8:58 news
• 32:30 sport
• 44:22 tech
• 51:41 music
• 1:06:35 movies and tv
• 1:20:28 books we didn't read
• 1:25:38 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:33:54 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the dark side. 

Okay. 

YouTube devious and we couch jump from Mariah Mcgreevey and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Wait. 

Ohh, 6th February 2005. 

He -20. 

Like what you show? 

Me minus. 20 tonight breaker. Don't judge me yet. 

This is bananas surprise 20. 

It will come home with. 

My question is who approved that? The Ohh not really. 

Do you see where this is going? 

20 this. 

In answer to the question you approved it, you approved it. You're the one that's downloading it every week and supporting us, which makes us feel fantastic. 

So. 

It's t -, 20 the podcast. If you haven't heard it before, that rewinds to this week in history 20 years ago with your host Joe and Mel. Hello Mel. 

Hello everybody. We are rewinding to the 6th through to the 12th of February 2005. 

Big wake. 

It's gonna be almost impossible for them to have a completed pass and run another play. They'll have to really hustle. 

The. 

I are gonna have to really hustle. They're gonna have to, really. So if they want to win the Superbowl, it was Super Bowl week, this time 20 years ago. 

The ship, I don't think anyone really cared about the game. I think we're all wondering how are they gonna top ****** gate? 

Right. Yes. 

He's nips are gonna slip. And how's it gonna happen? And what's gonna happen? 

Well, that's it. I mean, the only way they can do that is with full frontal nudity. We'll find out if. 

That happens, but not on the Missouri. 

She may have looked relaxed enough. Ellen McCarthy knew from the outset this was the toughest challenge she had ever faced. 

It. Was the toughest challenge that Ellen MacArthur had ever faced at that time, we will find out who Ellen MacArthur is and what she. Indeed, later on in the show. 

But I think it was, you know, a very good launching point for us. Our subsequent commercials have been far more product oriented and. 

That is one of the advertisers from the Superbowl. 

Ohh, there was a little controversy, wasn't there? 

They caused. 

I I think I think an app was actually pulled. I don't know if that's ever happened before. 

How old is the operative word? 

Pulled. 

It's it was. It was certainly one that went through to the keeper and the fact that they got away with it I think was fantastic, but they only got away with it once and we'll find out more about that a little bit later on as well. 

Yes. 

One thing that I don't like people getting away with is getting names wrong and this is this is pretty rich coming from me because I'm terrible with names as somebody who would tell me their name and I'll forget it straight away since I've gotten older, I think I've gotten more of an excuse and I can kind of get away with. 

Hmm. 

Not as bad as made. 

Sorry, what was your name again? 

But you never, you never get cause I'm I'm terrible with names as well. And I always try to be really obvious when I don't remember someone's name that I'm introducing you to. 

Yeah. 

And I'll be like. This is my partner Joe, so that you say hello. Who are you? And you find out who their name is for me. 

Everybody. 

But you never do that. You look at me as if to say yeah. And who is this person? I'm like trying to get you to help both of us here. 

Well, communication is the foundation for any good relationship and I feel like you might have had had to actually point that or spell that out for me a little bit sooner. 

I thought as being obvious. 

The. 

It's well spelling though is another thing that really irks me with names and rather than. 

Hmm. 

And kind of confront that issue. 

The. 

I figure a nice little passive aggressive chat in the introduction to the podcast is the best way to get that off my chest and hopefully enforce better behaviour amongst some of the perpetrators. 

From some norms around your name, some some preferences. 

If they're out there listening, they know who they probably don't know who they are, actually, because they've been doing it wrong for years. So my aim is a very simple name. It's got 3 letters in it. It's got a J&O and an E and yet some and somehow people managed. To forget the. 

The ohh you get Jay O, that's the. 

Yeah. 

That's the girl, Joe, isn't it? 

Well, yes. 

Then, for all intents and purposes, that's what I've been brought up to. Understand that Jay O is short for Joanne. Maybe Josephine, you know Joanna, something like that, Jo, right? 

Hmm. Ohh. Hmm. 

Joseph Joe is the short version okay very simple and I want to preface it, I do struggle with some as well. 

Yeah. 

Yes, 5th. 

I struggle with Christie and Kirsty. All the time, Christine and Kirsten, I got massive problems with those. 

Yes. 

I always screw them up and I feel really bad and I catch myself doing it and then I'm like, it's too far gone and the person's been really kind and generally I'm pretty kind when people spell my name wrong as well. 

Do. Yeah. 

I kind of I've let it slide for years, but it's happened so often. 

Hmm. 

That I'm just done with it now it's it's and it's. I don't wanna get into gender politics or anything like that, but my personal preference is Joe with a penis. 

Jake. 

Yeah. OEI think that's fair enough. 

Say this happens in emails. Do you find it also happens at the coffee shop when you give your name? Do you get Jo on your on your coffee cup with you like white? 

He said yes more often than not, but there's there's an element of misunderstanding that takes place in the coffee line that takes this into a whole new realm because there's the noise and all of that sort of stuff. 

Then you probably don't. You don't know each other. 

Yeah, but I'm very I'm very clear. 

There's music. 

Lots of things happening. 

When I place an order. I'm very clear, I don't quite spell it out, but it'll be like, you know, I'll have a a large skim flat white for Joe. 

Do you spell it out? Ohh so you proactively offer your name. 

That's how I order it. Yeah, yeah. 

You don't wait till they say what name should I put on the order? You actually offer it up as part of the order. See I I. Feel like that's too much information to be spewing out the poor barista all at once. 

They're only going to ask you like a second after that. 

Yeah, but they're. Trying to remember the order and what your coffee is. Yeah. And the name at the. I feel like it needs to be staged, but I have trouble with. How do I introduce my name? What transitional kind of word or phrasing? 

Right. 

Do I use? Because when they say, can I have a? Name for the order. I used to say it's Mel, but it sounds like I'm saying it, Mel. 

Yeah, it smell. Yeah, it smell well. 

Yeah. 

Coffee does have an odour, yes. 

And then I'm like, my name is Mel, and that feels. That feels really rehearsed. 

Right. 

Or it's for Mel. And then I feel like they might think. 

It's formals move. 

Yeah, exactly. So I just don't know how to kind of introduce my name, but I feel like if I just say Mel, that feels rude to me. 

So you're like ohh skim flat white. L well, that's essential. 

No, no, no. I say skinny flat white and then they say to me, can I have a name for the order? 

You're talking to them. Yeah, this has got the makings of an an old Abbott and Costello style sketch. 

And it just. Well, I've ended up with what have I had. I've had L. 

Yeah. 

Bell. Yep, nel. 

Hell not. 

Hell not yet. 

Ohh okay clearly don't know you. Yes. 

And Mel, with two L's as well. I I I I. I'm obviously not very clear when I say my name. 

Well, maybe, but this is where I think for the coffee line. Like hmm. The spelling of names and what not, aside for the coffee line, perhaps it's time to choose a pseudonym. 

Well, it's also stressful cause Mel is quite common and I have picked up the wrong order before. 

Yes. 

For another Mel, like obviously a Melissa, not a Melanie. 

Hmm. 

And that's happened. 

So why don't? You pick a suit on him like. 

So maybe I should. 

Like. Gertrude. Or, you know, I could murgatroid that would be good, but. 

Then they'll ask you had a spell it and you've got. To. Be ready for that with me. 

An A. Ohh, these are the first world problems that we have to endure. 

Well, you know, you can get the the Cape Cups now with your name and your order either printed or engraved on the cup. 

We are. Ohh on the actual cop. 

I think that's a really good idea. Then you don't even have to interact. 

Decisions remove any intimacy or human interaction from the process altogether. 

Just hand the cup over. Yeah. Well, cause I always ask for extra hot and I think sometimes they think I'm saying extra shot, so I. 

Right. 

Ohh. 

Ohh. Either that or I think ohh you have a really high opinion of of yourself cause you need to work out where you put extra hot in there. 

Get Luke warm. Really strong coffee. Ohh. 

Cause if you say. Skinny flat white for male extra hot, they're like ohh yeah. 

The extra hot mill. 

Yeah. Tickets on yourself there, don't you? 

Yeah, yeah. 

Yeah, right. 

Not just the Hotmail extra Hotmail, yeah. 

Yeah. 

Anyway, it's time to move on to the hatches, matches and dispatches. Clue a little segment that we do to hook you through to the end of the show in the hatches, matches and dispatches segment. We have this week. We're 3 for three now. 3 weddings, haven't we? Three matches or this is more of a proposal. 

Ohh yes yes that nice. 

Yes. So this is somebody being accosted by the paparazzi who was proposed to this time 20 years ago. 

Ohh like that. 

How are you feeling? 

How you feeling, mam? 

Alright, I'm just. 

Justin Roberts. 

I'm just coming down to Earth. 

Did you get down on one knee to propose? 

Fact so. 

So. 

Nothing. 

What else? 

What else? What else? 

Hmm. 

Yes, I wonder who that might have been. Very mysterious, isn't it? You'll find out at the end of this show. 

I've learned the news on the 6th of February 2005. Tony Blair becomes the longest serving Labour Prime Minister. Yeah. At this point, he'd been the Prime Minister for eight years. 

Wow. 

He first took office in May 1997 after leading the Labor Party to a landslide victory which ended 18 years of conservative rule at the time. Hmm. 

It's a big deal, a very big deal. And look if you want to attribute this landslide victory to anyone. I think it's Noel Gallagher from Oasis who very famously endorsed him during their speech at the Brit Awards in in in 97 when they won the Best British Group award. 

What's? 

There are 7 people. In this room tonight, it would giving. A little bit. Of vote to young people in this country. 

Once. 

That is me, our kid boned quizzy Alan White. Alan McGee and Tony Blair. And if you're all going about you go out there and you shake Tony Blair's Ant man, the man, parts of the people. 

In. Teen 97 Noel Gallagher endorsed Tony Blair. What had the rest of the people that he was referring to? 

Why did he say just to shake his hand? He didn't say votes in. 

The seven people that he was speaking to, referring to the the were giving hope to the youth with the rest. 

Yeah. Who were the others? 

Of the guys in the band. Ohh OK, as far as I know it produces and then Tony Blair off the backlit and Tony Blair shake his hand. 

Say us us in town, where the only ones giving the youth hope. 

He's the man. This is before the war in Iraq. I have to say. But that endorsement, I think, helped get him across the line. 

Well, they would be again Wonderwall no ball would have. 

Remember, Oasis were big wonder. But not exactly a political group, but I think they just wanted to end the conservative rule. 

Been. No, no. Potentially. 

And, you know, 18 years of conservatism is is a long time to be conservative, for you would want to know how the other half lived after that. 

Hmm. 

Time, potentially. So we we hit the 6th of FEV and he becomes the longest serving Labour PM in history. Surpassing Clement Ashley. Yes, two ways. Who'd? Served from 1945 to 1951. 

There's a good coffee name. Clement Clement. Clement, I do too. 

Yeah. 

Yeah, I'm like that name. It's nice bliss government focused on giving hope to the youth, modernising public services, particularly health and education. 

Put that on your. Next cuppa with. 

They implemented Labour's third way policies that blended market economics with social justice. Stay introduced the minimum wage. They increased investment in public services and implemented devolution in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. 

He he also invited the guys from Oasis. After that endorsement, Zachary, Neil and Noel and. 

Ohh, following the endorsements. 

What's the other one? Nolan, it's not Neil, but Neil sounds like a good name anyway. 

Lionel. 

Lionel. No. What's it? Noel Gallagher. What's brother's name? Liam, that's it. Why do I get Neil from? I'm thinking of the young ones. Imagine if the young ones went to Downing St Hello, Mr Blair. 

That would be a good talk. 

Hands up, who likes me? 

We've got a message from the Council. 

No, he was Noel and Liam. They went to Downing St. 

So were they there to perform or were they invited? For tea and coffee. 

Neither of us went there. 

But was the premise. 

I think they just went there for tea. 

It was. 

And a chat talk. 

Comfort come for a visit. 

He's, you know, he wants to get his finger on the pulse, wants to find out what? What? The youth are thinking and who better to be the ambassadors for the youth in England? 

How I can give? Youth hope. 

Than the Gallican process. 

The gallery. 

Others. 

Wow, that's a bit weird, isn't it? 

Yeah. Well, yes, but you know, cutting edge. Cool the Gallagher's themselves, I think. 

Hmm. 

I think, Noel said. I don't know if Liam was there actually, but Noel definitely was cause Noel was the one that was up on the the podium talking about it. 

Hmm. Yes. 

He said that the experience was surreal and awkward and it's like, can't be anymore awkward than endorsing a politician at a rock'n'roll award. 

Imagine a wood Bay. Won't you dig this? But he's in his element is on the stage. 

MMM hmm. 

He's got the youth screaming, the women's screaming for him, and then he's sitting there having a cup of tea. What would you do? But I'm glad you only invited one of the brothers, because if you had. Invited both of them could have got. 

And I might have fought. Yes, it could have been very messy. 

Yeah, could have gotten messy. Is that was there. Fighting Era, wasn't it? 

Why didn't get on very well? 

No, no. 

No. And you don't want, you know, damage anything at Downing St it's. Very proper location anyway. 

Spensive. 

You Fast forward to the May couple of months time because they're holding elections very soon, so you know not only is he talking, they're talking about now. 

Hmm. 

Ohh course. 

Is the longest serving term, whatever, but there's also an election faster approaching. Sounds like. Hey, hasn't he done a great job? Interestingly enough, I a lot of people were probably getting a bit jaded with Tony Blair. 

Hmm. 

You would think right? How? Over the couple of months time, Fast forward to may, he's going to get back into office for a third term. Spoiler alert. 

Isn't that interesting because we had Bush get back in, we had Howard get back in here in Australia and we have Blair get in and there was just so many. 

Yes, yes. Hmm. 

The protests in so much upheaval and so many people speaking out against all three of them. 

Right. 

And then the time comes to for a change and then. 

They're all still. Yeah, they are still remain. 

Where are you? 

Isn't that interesting? 

Ohh sorry. Yeah. 

Up late at a party and there was a guy. They playing coustic guitar and he broke into Wonderwall and the next thing I know I woke up and it was like the polls had closed. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. Yeah, that was in my head telling, telling. Me to vote for him. Yeah, it did. The victory, though in in May 2005, did come with a significantly reduced majority in the House of Commons. 

That's right. 

I think they dropped from something like 167 seats to 66, so there, there was a little bit of change in. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. And he's popularity did go down a little bit, particularly over the invasion of Iraq, and that was one of the the big issues. 

Well, that's right. That's the dodgy dossier, quote unquote, and the lack of evidence around the weapons of mass destruction really impacted his leadership cause. 

Ohh yes. 

I mean, he wrote that that horse. 

Hmm. 

So is he, is he then he's. Party is kind of the opposite of what? Bush's party is then. 

In that they're liberal, they're not conservative. 

Yeah, we will, conservatives. 

It becomes more of a high level thing and a more of a question of diplomacy at that level. 

Yeah, you gotta gotta be friends still, yeah. 

Like we don't want to know about the inner machinations, but we're allies and we need to remain allies and have that united. 

Still got to be mates. 

Front. 

Yeah. So he stays in for a significant amount of time. In fact, until July 2000 or June, sorry, June 2007. When he steps down, he succeeded by Gordon Brown. 

Ohh Gordon Brown you. 

Yes, which is a bit of a transformative period. I mean, well, the whole period actually was transformative. But I mean, once you get sort of to 8 years and then you going in for another term, it's less transport formative and more OK, more of the same, they don't like change the poms, 18 years of conservative rule as they weren't happy to change back just yet. Hmm. 

Hmm. 

No, they don't. Yes. Yeah, it did take a while. Im wondering though if the endorsement from the Gallagher, whichever one it was, Noel Noel, Noel. 

No, just no, not Neil. 

Not Lionel either. 

No. 

I wonder though, if it's because of Blair's roots. He actually started out in a band. He was in a rock band called Ugly Rumours Back in its Uni Days. 

Yeah, he had his. He had like a gap. 

He was. 

He said. 

He was a lead singer of a band. 

Right. 

That's that doesn't sound right to me. 

He. 

He wanted to get into music production and his dad, his dad, was just like night. 

Really. 

This is you're going the university and he went off and he caught the train to London and he talks about how like his first night he slept on a park bench up in Notting Hill. Somewhere and he wanted to get into the business, become a music producer and A and a performing artist. 

Wow. 

MMM. 

Which is very interesting and I've managed to track down an interview. He's in a band called Ugly Rumours. Did you mention that I did? 

Now that you mention that, mention it again further. 

Yes, he was so so I managed to track down the bass player from ugly rumours. 

Room it's. 

Not me personally. Some stuff from him, and here's a bit about his name's Mark Ellen. 

Hmm. 

And here's a bit about how Tony came to join the band. 

I think we had a group meeting. Decided what we needed was a little injection of charisma and we needed somebody who could sing. Another a certain amount of of sex appeal and. Once and Adam, who is the rhythm guitarist, said that he had seen this guy at St. John's and I think it was a dramatic review, may well have been one of those things involving a straw hat and, but which Tony occasionally did, Andy said. I've met this guy, Tony Blair, and he's a fantastic bloke and the great singer and I liked him and let's give him an audition. So we auditioned him. In a very rudimentary fashion, we told him what songs that we we played and he stayed up all night and transcribed the lyrics from the albums, which impressed us enormously because we didn't know the lyrics to any songs from quite happy to make them up. The vague approximation of Rolling Stone songs, but he you know, he he was very interested in the idea that if we were. Going to. Do it. It was going to be Jonas to. The best of our ability, and it turned up. And using a small microphone that was normally plugged into the the the record player or something feed the throwing some shapes and we were very impressed and he was signed up immediately. 

There's a visual for you, Tony Blair. 

Throwing shapes sex appeal in a straw hat. 

Sex appeal, charisma that are looking for Jesus. 

Sex appeal in a straw hat. 

I'll tell you what. Sex appeal in the straw they were looking for. Someone with a bit of charisma and he fit the bill, which just makes me think, what the **** did the other guys in the band look? 

I'm just visualising how they said he transcribed all the songs that takes you back to the 80s when he used to have your cassette. 

Yeah. 

Fire and you'd press play and then you write down. You write down the sentence and then you pause. Then you'd rewind and you'd pause and you rewind. Take you all day just to ride out the lyrics to one song. So you know that was a lot of effort. 

Hello. 

You listen, you listen to pop music, John being a metal head. Ohh. Is. Difficult, especially if you didn't speak fluent Cookie monster. Hmm. 

Ohh wasn't that the worst? And then when they started printing the lyrics in the the cassette. Booklet that was just. 

I love. I love that. 

So. 

I like there's no way. 

Save so much time in my. 

That's what they say. 

Life. This is the it's. 

Yes, exactly. Lyric sheets are very important. Now let's flip the script. Let's move over to another interesting person who achieved something far greater. And fronting up a band called Ugly Rumours and becoming the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom for an exceptionally long time. Although I mean that's an achievement until I don't wanna downplay what he did. I just basically took Tony, Tony Blair's LinkedIn profile and dropped a big on it, didn't I? I didn't mean to do that. 

Ohh dear. 

I didn't mean to do that. I was talking about Ellen MacArthur. Who was a British sailor who? Became the fastest person to sail solo around the world, completing the journey in 71 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes and 33 seconds, which beat the previous record set by French sailor a Francis Joyon by just over one day, she'll say yes, 28 years old. 

Also the youngest. 28 could you imagine? I couldn't ever imagine like being in a boat at 28, but could you imagine sailing around the world on your own at 28? 

Terrifying. Terrifying small points to 27,000. 

Hurry. 

What are the wait a day? 

And 354 nautical miles. Thank you very much. 

She may have looked relaxed enough that Ellen MacArthur knew from the outset this was the toughest challenge she had ever faced ahead of her more than 27,000 miles alone fighting fatigue and towering seas. 

Catherine, that her get up. 

Okay the. 

I think this is the biggest challenge. By far that I'll. Ever attempted because the boats big and powerful? The record I'm trying to beat is effectively to try and get a vote as fast as humanly possible around the planet. 

Day 71 in the home straight near the Bay of Biscay. Okay, she's within 400 miles of the finish, and nearly two days ahead of the record. Shortly before she born her shore crew conditions could lead to a capsize, but the record was now within grasp. Ellen MacArthur was poised to pass the finishing line and into the record books after a breathtaking display of skill, he shared how? 

The interesting thing there. She's talked about how the boat was bigger and faster, and there's there's a whole bunch of interviews online with her. She's got a very interesting stories to tell, but she was saying that if the the boat goes faster, everything becomes infinitely more stressful because things happen quicker and events occur quicker. 

Ohh. 

And then other events creep up quicker and stuff. It's a very chaotic the existence, although she has probably a different view of that, but she got interested in sailing. 

Hmm. 

When she was on a boat that was owned. By her auntie. Auntie Thea on the East Coast of England. 

Hmm. 

I don't think her parents are very familiar with the nautical lifestyle, so they couldn't really relate to what she was doing and I think that if they had of known how menacing a journey like that, I mean, how could you ever say goodbye your child knowing that they were trying to break a record serve circumnavigating the? 

Food. 

Globe on their own in a boat in. The water, yes. 

Terrifying. 

Horrible. 

She saved her school dinner money for three years to buy her first boats and eight foot dinghy, which she named Thruppenny bit, even though decimalisation had taken place before she was born. 

Hmm. Hmm. 

As an interesting fact for you and she sellotaped a real 3 penny Bitcoin onto the bow. 

Yeah. So she. 

Wouldn't you want some waterproof cellar tape? Honey, I don't think that would stay. 

You. 

Well, yeah, I don't think it would stick on the bow otherwise, you know. 

No, no. 

But she was 17 years old when she bought a a choroby, which is a type of water vessel, I believe, and she named it a Juna and sailed it single handed on a circumnavigation of great British subscribe to pull a lap. 

A belief, Sir? Hmm there remaining. 

Pull a lap, she. 

Yeah. 

And and then and you know, obviously she was destined for bigger things. So she came to prominence in 2001, when she finished second in the Vendee Globe solo around the world, sailing race in their own Owen Clark. Rob Humphreys designed Kingfisher boat so she circumnavigated the world before she'd raced around the world, though, and a race is a bit different doing it solo, obviously, because there's a field of people, so something goes wrong. 

Hmm. 

Yeah. Other. Yeah. 

You know, you could easily probably be picked up or rescued by another ship, but when you. Itself. Again, very different. Hmm. 

And then in 2003, she captained around the world record attempt for a crude yacht in Kingfisher, too. But the mast broke in the Southern Ocean. So was not successful there. She also was there was a boat specifically designed for her in January. 

Yes, a trimaran. It's like a catamaran with a third third part. 

Since about four love, love a catamaran. 

The trimaran's gotta bit in the middle as well. 

This one was built here in Australia and many of the components were specifically. 

It's like 3. Ohh, well then it must have been good. Good. 

It was specifically. Arranged to take into account her height, which is 5 foot 2 inches. 

Yes, it was tailored, tailored to fit her. 

Wait, we love to Tyler about here at Australia. 

Absolutely. 

So what we're known for tailoring water vessels. 

Get in a good boat tilers and have a fitting. 

Bbcf. 

Beautiful, yeah. 

Yeah, no problem. We'll tailor that to you. 

So she used that yacht, I believe, as the one to make a record attempt in 2004. 

Ohh. 

But that was to break the West E transatlantic crossing and I think she failed it by. By about an hour and 15 minutes, after seven days after. 

Ohh geez. Movie movie first. 

That's just like a big gust of wind, isn't it, really? 

Ring me. 

You know, you get a nice windy day and you're good. It's you're bound by the weather there. So she then goes to break the solo record for selling non stop around the world on the 28th of November in 2004. 

That's this one. Yes. And she starts in November. Hmm. 

So that's when she started in November. Yes, and that was pretty full on as well, extreme weather conditions. Games the Southern Ocean is not a place that you wanna hang out. You know you got waves that would reach the size of apartment complexes coming at. You. 

Hmm. 

In your little trimaran. That was tailored to fit. 

You and as we mentioned, obviously on her own. So she had to handle all the aspects of it, the navigating if something broke, she had to repair it herself. Cool. 

Yeah, yeah. 

King minimal sleep as well. I think something like 20 minutes at a time because you've gotta be out there paying attention. 

Well, it's a full time job. 

If. Just you, yeah. 

Who's who's doing it? If you're not, you can't just like drop anchor and have a snooze at the middle of the ocean. 

Yeah, she was injured. 

Especially one of those things. 

She was exhausted and I think mentioned in that earlier bit as well, the threat of capsizing. 

Yes, one big wave over the top and then you under. 

Ohh gosh, wouldn't that be the worst nightmare? 

To go and, but she did it. 

The. 

She did it. 

She didn't mate. 

She made it through, and then she she was knifed. She got a knighthood. She became Dame Ellen MacArthur for her contributions to sailing in British sport. Are just amazing, but she actually finds, I think the whole concept of as you can see by the resume right, the concept of being on the ocean and the open water, a much more controlled environment than say she would out in the real world. 

Hmm. 

In a weird way, when you went about however unpredictable your life is because you live totally at the pace of nature, it's a stormy you deal with the storm. If there's no wind, you deal with that, you deal with whatever. Evans. But however unpredictable it is, it's under your control. You deal with everything on the boat. You charge the battery as you feed yourself. You look after the boat, every single thing that happens on that boat apart from. The weather is your choice. Your decision, your you're controlling this little world the moment you step off the boat, you have no control. Feel like you're not in your life anymore? People make decisions. You're all over the place. You know you can't make all your decisions because you're in this total madness of coming home and media and everything until you go from this total control and the moment you step off that boat goes mad. 

According to her, I mean home is is the boat for her. Obviously she does. 

Hmm. 

She's not very good with the land leg, so I mean, I I don't know that you have that much control when you've got waves the size of apartment complexes coming at you and things like that. 

Storms. 

However, imagine, I mean that's a pretty good grounding, isn't it? Imagine going through. Life, having achieved something like that at 28 years of age and well, an earlier some of the other things that she'd done as far as challenges go, I mean, nothing would seem very difficult for you. 

MMM hmm. 

After that you would think from a mental point of view, although you know she did struggle to cope with media and all the attention after that because she'd been by herself, she's obviously very comfortable with her own company. 

No, I don't think so. Yeah. 

Hmm. 

And then she gets all this attention, and it's it's the complete opposite to the environment that she was just in. 

Hmm. 

So that would be a bit discombobulating. 

Yeah, potentially. And she held the record until 2008. Francis Francis got the books that she. 

Dial. Came back. Francis Joyon from France. 

Yeah, he got a bit testy that she beat his record. 

Yeah. 

So he's like, I'm gonna take this back. 

Is a guy Francis or girl? 

It's a guy, Francis and. 

Francis within a. 

He's. He's will know it's got an eye because he's French, uh, 20 years older as well. 

Ohh. 

Yeah. 

Then her. And so he then achieves it on 20th of January 2857 days, 13 hours, 34 minutes, 6 seconds. 

It's almost like that's like nearly 2. Weeks. 

Nearly two weeks whilst in the previous record, yes, it was regarded as one of the most impressive sailing feats. 

Earlier. It's a fast boat. Really. 

That look, he wasn't 28. 

The weather was on his side, perhaps. 

Ohh. 

Yeah, it's looking a bit longer. 

Got lucky. 

Francis got lucky, yes. 

You're right. Mustard. Let's move to. The less good news, although I guess in the grand scheme of things it was good news at the time. 

Within the timeline, it was viewed as good news. Yeah, hopefully the start of of something new, something a bit more positive on the 8th of February, we have the Israeli Palestinian truce declared, signalling a potential new era of peace in the region. 

Hmm. 

And this was really significant, although quite a fragile step in the ongoing conflict between the two sides. 

Yes, Sir. Ariel Sharon and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas announced a mutual true set of summit in Sharm El Sheikh in Egypt. They go to the summit, they're like hey. Look, we need to talk and I talk and it's good that they talk and they pledge to end violence and work towards restarting peace negotiations over there and making the first formal ceasefire in over four years of the Second Intifada, which is wonderful. 

Hmm, good. 

So Sharon says that Israel will cease all military activity against Palestinians in all locations, and a bus pledged to stop attacks by Palestinian militant groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Head. So they're at the summit hosted by the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak, and the it's attended by Jordan's King Abdullah the second, and Egypt and Jordan play big roles in facilitating these talks. They're like, hey, guys, take a seat, take a load off. 

Yeah. 

Do you want some tea? 

Hmm. 

Hmm, let's have a chat. 

Anything else I can get to who bring Noel Gallagher in here to iron things out? 

The US also expressed their support with then President George W Bush encouraging the truce as part of his administration's efforts to promote peace in the region. This truce obviously came after the deaths of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in November 2004, which we spoke about last year. And the subsequent election of Mahmoud Abbas, who was seen as a more moderate leader. And shortly after taking office called for an end to violence and launched efforts to rein in some of these militant groups. 

Yeah. Which is in the hope of bringing the end to that Second Intifada, which is the Palestinian uprising that began in September 2000. That caused the deaths of over 3000 Palestinians at about 1000. Israelis and Big death toll and it's time to stop. 

Hmm. 

I mean, there's widespread doubt about whether the troops would hold, and obviously it doesn't, given the deep trust between the two. Well it it, but it did decrease. If the violence temporarily at least and and definitely gave people hope towards peace but later in 2005, I think you find Israel unilaterally withdraw from the Gaza Strip, which you I'm sure we'll talk about under Sharon's leadership, which was part of those broader peace peace efforts. 

Hmm. 

But the reactions were very mixed because they they just bailed. Like they left a lot of infrastructure there and they were like, you know, the the Palestinians can go in and use that stuff when we get out. The Palestinians came in there like, no, the synagogues are burn them down. Destroyed. Destroy all the infrastructure and we'll start again. This is our land sort of thing. 

Hmm. 

I guess it's so obviously that truce was gonna be very short lived because these sort of. Actions are causing tensions and I think there's a a bigger conversation that happens now and I'm not gonna get too much into it because the whole thing is an absolute mess. But it's that withdrawal from Gaza and then allowing terrorist organisations, they're saying like Hamas, to then take over leadership in Palestine. And what not is it depends on what side you land on you because a lot of people will say that the Hamas. 

Hmm. 

Funnelled all of their funding into things like weapons and and and and things that they could use against the Israelis rather than protecting their people and looking after things like healthcare and you know, stuff for the people as opposed to fighting wars or continuing to fight this war. It's and as you can see, like from what we're looking at right now, it's still an absolute bloody mess and it's really hard I think to come. 

Hmm. 

And I what it's like to be there, but it's also really hard to understand why it is continuing to happen and why they can't reach a resolution. Ohh. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Thank goodness for a bit of sport. Let a bit of oxygen back in the room. 

Yes, 6th of February we have supper Bowl ***. 1X what's that? 

3939 Superbowl 39. 

That he saw good Roman numeral Ling. 

Yeah. 

That's impressive. 

Took a bit but it worked. 

Did you have a written down somewhere? 

Never remember. No, I didn't. 

Did you? Did you did the what? 

I just went all X's 10 and there's three X's, and then there's an IEX which is at 9, so I'm tipping its 39. 

The -1 from the. X. Good work. 

Yeah, it was held in Jacksonville, in Florida, at the Alltel Stadium, which I think is now Tia Bank Field for anyone who cares with the New England Pay. It's and the Philadelphia Eagles. Who were in the Philadelphia Eagles? Obviously just played in the Superbowl at time of recording as well, or there were about to so. 

Hey, would you have gone through gone for in this one? 

Uh, the eagles? 

Ohh yeah, you don't like but you don't like. 

I don't wanna see that Patriots win. 

The pictures do you? 

No, it's the Tom Brady factor. They but unfortunately, yeah, the the Patriots won. 

It's gonna be almost impossible for them to have a completed pass and run another player. You have to really hustle. 

We gotta throw 2 hell marries down the middle of the field and the pass is picked off by Harrison. 

That's good. 

Ohh. 

To see you. 

Rodney Harrison takes it in and 9 seconds remain and the New England Patriots are on their way to solidifying their team as an NFL dynasty. 

Ohh. 

Yeah, that was it. That was the end of it. It was actually a very close game, so the Patriots defeat the Eagles 2421 and as though with the the dying minutes of the game, that's where it all kind of fell apart. 

Hmm. 

The MVP, interestingly, was not Tom Brady, the quarterback and which usually is. What happens when quarterback usually gets it? It was Deon branch. It was wide receiver for the Patriots. He he tied. The world record. Or the the world record. I mean, it's only played in one country, so that's pretty easy. I just did what they do. When they win, they're like we're the world. Champions are like the only country that play that sport. The 11 receptions for 133 yards was the record. He tied that, but the the game was 7 all at half time. 

Yeah it does. 

Very exciting. The first touchdown was scored by the Eagles, Donovan McNabb to LJ Smith, while the Patriots answered with ratchet rushing touchdown from Corey. One they pulled ahead in the third quarter with a touchdown pass from Brady to David Gibbons. And then a pivotal moment comes in the 4th when linebacker Teddy Bruschi intercepts a pass from McNab, which basically holds the momentum and and kind of gets close to ending the game. Then the Patriots score another touchdown in the 4th. Brady to Mike Frabill, giving them a decisive lead in the final minutes. The Eagles score a late touchdown, but thou criticised for not managing the clock properly and they used too much time in their last drive, which limited any chances they'd have for a come back. 

Hello. 

So as soon as the Patriots get the ball again, they're just gonna run the clock down, right? The final thing was a kick from Adam Vinatieri. From the Patriots, he he pretty good at at clutch performances. He's a clutch kicker, 22 yard field goal which is not a far kick in the fourth quarter, which actually proved pretty crucial towards the end. So there you go. But I think we need to talk about the thing that you're more interested cause you don't care about the gun. 

I don't care. 

You're more interested in the ads. 

About the phone. I'm the ads number one for me half times #2 for well, depends on who's the half time entertainment. 

And the half time entertainment. 

Slot. 

I still I've. I've been what? I keep watching the. Done with with Snoop and Dray and every time I watch that I cry, I love it. 

Yeah, that was a great one. One of the best ones. Ohh yes. 

I love it, but. Not all of them are that good, and I think we're all sitting there going what are they gonna do this year after ****** gate? 

Well, because lost, yes. 

Because the fallout from that. So all of the finds that they had to pay everything that Janet went through. You're being barred from everything. Yeah, basically Korea ending for her. 

Hmm yeah. 

Justin, no problem. There are a lot of lawsuits, a lot of people wanting their money back, and it was just a massive drama. So who was going to perform? 

Yeah. Where do you go like? 

What are we going to do? 

John Denver. 

How are we gonna make sure there's no Matt? 

Ohh he's dead. Damn it. 

Look. 

Yes, Matlock at half time. 

Also, did you see this look? 

I don't know. Well, no. This is new Matlock now and and. 

Ohh, new Matlock, Matlock would be playing it safe. 

Hey matlock's of woman these days. 

Ohh OK perfect. 

So I don't know, was it Joe Matlock? And then they just dropped the E. Who knows? Anyway, Matt looks a woman these days, so I don't. 

Read. Look, we were pretty close to Matlock. 

I don't. I'm not really sure what kind of 1/2 time show Matlock would deliver permission to approach the bench. 

Solving a crime solving. 

Your honour. No, they're all in the dressing rooms now. Tough time. 

We were we were pretty close to Matlock. 

Go do something. 

Someone grandparents also love Paul McCartney, so talking about Clay playing it safe. 

Ohh well, Matlock and Paul McCartney. Yeah. When we're not listening to Paul McCartney, we're watching Matlock. 

And I don't think there was any risk of a. Nip slip from Paul. 

Well if there. Were. 

I think he gave some packed away. 

Yeah, I'd like to, especially at his age. 

Pretty sure he wears a single. Lets you sure he wears a singlet. 

Yes, he's got stamina though. You know, people went saw Paul McCartney play recently like last year played for like over three hours, isn't he 70s played for like 3 hours in his 70s? 

What's like a couple? 

Of years ago and everyone was raving, weren't they? I wish. I wish I'd say that actually. 

Yeah, that's one of the gigs that I. Regret not going to. 

Yeah, it would have been good. 

Saint Paul McCartney. 

So we shouldn't be mean, but we will. He performs as well as to be silly. 

For not really. 

Well, you it. 

When he silly, he did. 

Was filled a bowl making good Superbowl. You think you know it's usually the young ones, the young up and comers. 

Ohh yeah, but he's a man. He's got some bangers. He's got some greatest news. 

Well, there and he played his greatest here. Of course, drive my car live and let die. 

Get back. Yes. And then, of course, the Big Sing song, the big one with the crowd engagement. 

Ohh this. 

I mean, he did it at Glastonbury. Why wouldn't he? Did his well rehearsed? Why wouldn't he trotted out at the? Superbowl search. 

People. When you get. 

Hi. 

You look. You look, babe, you look back. You would, babe, you. 

Ohh great. 

Thank you. 

Superbowl. 

We're lucky. 

Never. I'm sitting there and in the production crew. Just like ohh. 

Thank God. 

Thank God. 

Good Lord. 

Didn't let a nip slip. 

Good. 

We're all good. 

That's right. Now camera's under the piano. 

Didn't drop U swear? 

You know it's going to see anything untowards. 

Didn't drop a swear. These fly was up there. 

Yep, everything and my clear. 

We're safe. It's all good. 

Let's go to a commercial. Hang on a second. Let's go to a commercial. 

Ohh dear. 

So they vetted a lot of the ads. They vetted the ads. They vetted the half time fair to avoid any any controversy. 

Heavily vetted. I don't know that. All of them were heavily vetted. 

Though not quite, and there was one ad that I I think went through to the keeper and it drew the ire of a lot of people, including NFL. 

Hmm. 

It was for the Internet domain provider GoDaddy. Now you know these spots have always been expensive and they were still very expensive back in 2005. 

Two points, 4 million for 30 seconds. Yeah. 

The GoDaddy commercial goes for two min. It's OK. 

What? 

It's a 2 minute commercial that they aired at the Superbowl. The full version is is 2 minutes okay, so yes, it's they spend a lot of money. 

Thanks so much. 10 million. 

So what they did the the the concept of the ad is a is a a mock censorship tearing. 

It's a courtroom. 

Matlock. 

Yes, it is a courtroom. 

They went Matlock. 

So it was. They did go a. Bit Matlock with this this gorgeous woman. 

Everyone thought that's safe courtroom Matlock. 

In a very tight white singlet with a GoDaddy logo on the front of it is Nikki Cappelli, who was played by WWE wrestler Candice Michelle. 

Uh huh. 

Go Google her. You weren't regret it. Thank me later. 

What's? 

And and she has a wardrobe malfunction in the commercial. 

All right, Miss Capelli, you come down. 

Please come along, Miss Capelli. 

Clock is ticking. 

Thank you, Sir. 

So you want to appear on the game, and what would you be advert. 

Yes, Sir. Risinggodaddy.com the website whereyoucanregister.com names for only $8.95 a year. Plus you get a free starter web. 

Page and what exactly will you be doing on this commercial? 

It's an Arabic routine and it starts. Off with some. Jumping jacks and then I did this. 

Ohh please secure her. She's having a wardrobe malfunction. 

Sorry. 

18. 

Yeah, Toby. 

So and I think so there's more to it than that. But I think the wardrobe malfunction line, particularly stuck in their craw, not to mention Candice Michelle jumping around in that lazy. 

80s. Leaning forward and the the singlet strap breaks and she's got a kind of hold it all in. 

Yes, the goodies. The goodies weren't really in the jar. 

The goodies were. Out of the job. All right out of the jar. 

They weren't they. They were about as far out of the jar as they would be allowed to be in prime time, so they they and you know, like it's a 2 minute spot and they're. 

It was very budget looking though for for something where they've paid 10 mil in the Superbowl. 

Saying. It was. Yeah, yeah. 

It looked like something that you would just. Shoot on an iPhone at a family gathering. 

Right, right. It was a very low budget commercial to make, but all the money was obviously spent on the the the position is the the advertising slot. 

Hmm. 

More this, yes. 

So 2.4 million for 30 seconds. That's a 2 minute commercial. We're looking around 10 million bucks. They didn't book that ad spot once they booked it twice, so that was gonna then be played again in the two minute warning of the fourth quarter, which is usually a pretty crucial part of the game. And you think about this game going right to the wire? Everyone was on tender hooks. That is just an advertiser's dream. Like Ohh, not only are we gonna get a bite to this once we're really gonna get our money's worth because it's not a dead rubber like this game is neck and neck and we're going to the two minute warning and it's in the fourth quarter and they're gonna play it again. But Fox will like no, they pulled it. They pulled the commercial. They didn't let it go to air a second time and instead they replaced it with a promo for The Simpsons. This is the most expensive free. Advertising the Simpsons's probably ever. 

Wow, they they chose this. Yeah, I think they. Got a refund, though for the EDS. 

They did. They did refund them their money for because they bought the spot fair and square, and they yes, well, it was. 

Hmm. 

Well, it was visits. Someone vented it religiously. 

But it was very controversial and lots of people complained. And this is the sea. Ohh, the Chief operating Officer, Warren Adelman of GoDaddy, talking about because I think that they'd actually aim to then play another added few years later. 

I think it was, um, you know, a very good launching point for us. Our subsequent commercials have been a far more product oriented and we wanted to go. But into a follow up campaign with okay, we've been able to put the GoDaddy name into the minds of people. Now let's build on that by telling them about, you know, what do we do and what can you derive from us in terms of the benefit for your business? 

Right. So and this is the thing, the at the time. So they were. They obviously wanted to create some brand awareness and they did, but you've got Candice Michelle in a figure hugging white singlet with the words GoDaddy emblazoned across her. 

Hmm. Hmm. 

****. 

I mean, what do you think that is? 

Hmm. 

Yeah, it it didn't really scream domain name, did it? Um, and I think the other thing too with with the Superbowl ads is when you have an ad that's really controversial or really successful, it does become a one of these. What are they gonna do the next year? Because people live for the ads. 

Yeah. 

Like I do. And you have some of these brands, like Cheetos, for example, where they do these amazing ads, whether it's something really clever or something with celebrities. 

Yeah. 

But something that's really memorable. And then you just hanging for the next year to see how they're going to possibly top that? 

Hmm. 

Hmm, well, it was all downhill from there. 

And then they're going to talk about their products. Yes, I. Think so? 

If not knowing what it was, I would have signed up for it immediately. OK, no phone calls. We're on the Internet. 

So Mum, hang up. 

Yeah. 

Like. 

Can you hang up or trying to surf the net? 

We're trying to find out where to go on the 8th of February 2005 because Google Maps was launched GoDaddy. 

I mean, sorry, what? 

Ohh. 

This is a revolutionary moment in digital mapping changing way which we navigate and interact with geographic information. 

Yes, yes. 

It started after Google acquired a company called where 2 Technologies, which is actually an Australian startup. We're not only building boats where making Google Maps as well. 

Yeah. 

Look at us go. Wow. 

We start again. Yeah, we were there first. That's. 

Right. Significant role in developing the core technology behind Google Maps. We also spoke last year. About Google buying keyholes that Earth viewer technology, which? 

Yes. Was the Google Earth thing right? So Google Earth came before Google Maps. 

Yeah. And they're kind of separate, but. They did integrate in later years the technology. 

But tell me natural yes. 

Type of integrated. So it's all kind of interconnected Google Maps. 

Yeah. 

Unlike traditional online maps, which use static images, introduce these idea of dynamic scrolling, zooming in and zooming out, making the map smoother and more user friendly. 

Welcome to Google Maps. Here you can search for places businesses. Directions and much more, all from 1 website. To get started, go to google.com and click on maps. To find a place or business, simply type the location into the search box like the San Francisco Airport. It's easy to zoom in and out. And to simply drag the map from side to side to get a better view of your location. 

Isn't it amazing that we needed to have that explained to us back in the day? Yeah. 

I think we dance because back in the day I was still tabbing the Gregory's. Yeah. And I Gregory's if you listening. How come none of your maps continue over the next page? 

Ohh yeah. 

How come you're on one page in the middle of Sydney and then you click the page over and you bloody QLD? 

Let's choose round adventure. 

You gonna flick flick through 100 different maps to get to the next street? 

Well, it's a pins on what? 

Why? 

It depends on what direction you're going though. 

Why? 

Well. 

Like you're going north, like the book doesn't open that way. 

No. 

It only opens when you read from left. 

But it did it. 

To right. So. 

It's not logical, it's just just go page by page. 

I think you'll find. I think you'll find that it's probably very logical and very practical, and I do think I do think that you'll find that a lot of people aren't gonna be going. 

It's just it should. 

Just give me my roots in the right order. 

Hmm. Where's Melanie travel? To next, perhaps we should put the sequence of the book together in the order the cheese travelling in. 

In the order I would have, I would appreciate that because you do, you'd tap it, you'd have to have a little tab with #1. Yeah. And then #2 would be 50 pages away and then and I'd be flicking through. 

Honestly. 

And it's so stressful when you're the navigator because you feel like there's a lot more pressure on you to get the directions right. 

What? 

I just not as the drug. Because the driver just gotta go. Where they're. Told and then there's a word that doesn't exist anymore because I was too cheap to buy the the latest version of the Gregory's. 

I mean, you just you get a better offer, you know? 

I'm still working off 1 from 5 years earlier. 

He. Oops, he comes Google Maps in there. 

End up in ****** Paramesh. Now when I'm trying to go into. The city. 

Google Maps coming along in their tight figure hugging singlet with a GoDaddy logo and place them across in front of it. 

Google Maps. Thank you, Google Maps you saved saved the day. 

The bed's not even cold. And you're already just like, you know, severing your past relationship and writing off all of the the massive. Assistance that you were given from Gregory. 

From gregory's. There was MapQuest as well. That was online and you printed it. You printed it and it was basically it was like the, you know, the directions that pop up in your in your HUD now. But it was like a printed version of that it was like. Go left in 200 metres in an arrow. And it would just print out each. 

See say I don't know it's two to title, the title is too role playing game for me MapQuest. 

I liked that though, because it was a step by step and you could just and you didn't have to tap it. 

Ohh yeah, I haven't played some MapQuest you know. 

It feels like a challenge. Well, it was a challenge. It was a challenge to drive and also be looking down at the MapQuest on the passenger seat and not crash or have the MapQuest sitting on your steering wheel while you're driving to nowhere to turn Nets when you didn't have a navigator. 

Yes. Ohh, you shouldn't do that. That's very dangerous. Wouldn't recommend that. Kind of behaviour, but you know you've got. 

No, no, of course not. 

Then you've got like a multi sided dice you know. Ohh, I can't travel over there. I don't have enough hit point. 

It's. 

Still kind of work. 

My character with these beautiful long hair. Would never turn right. 

I think we, I think we had to wait a little while before we got Google Maps. 

Yeah, we didn't get it for ages, but it was exciting. 

Anyway, we didn't get. 

A frame. Hmm. 

It's very exciting. Step by step instructions and a real a real shift from MapQuest and the Gregory's. It was originally available in the US. No, actually, I think we got it pretty soon after US, Canada, UK, then Australia and then it quickly expanded to worldwide coverage. 

Then. Like. Raw. 

And it competed with Yahoo Maps. I'd never heard of Yahoo Maps, to be honest. Late 2005 was available on mobile devices, didn't integrate with the TomTom, the NAV man stuff. 

Uh. 

What was that? Something separate. 

Uh. Uh. 

Again, remember that I never had one of those. 

I I haven't. I I'm not sure the TomTom and that van. 

I wasn't rich enough. There was a time though, in our way. Car park. 

Hmm. 

Where you would have to take it into work with you, cause people were break. Not from our work from another work. 

Stealing them out of the cars. Yeah. 

People would smash the window and steal your TomTom. 

Yeah. 

Remember when we went on our honeymoon and we were over in the States and and we had a TomTom in the Mustang that we hired and. 

Ohh yeah and I followed the I I navigated the blue line instead of the red line and we ended up in Long Beach didn't. 

Yes. 

Yeah, that's not. 

So it right down in the hood. 

That's not. Yes, that's not a, that's not a nice beach necessarily. 

No, but it was. It was at around 9:30 AM. Him and most of the gangsters were still asleep, which was good. 

Hmm. 

Thank goodness. Thank everybody. 

But nowadays, yeah, nowadays Google Maps would probably tell you because they allow real time traffic data. 

Drives through Compton, didn't we? 

They tell you, you know. Where you notice that what? 

I'll tell you when there's an accident and stuff, doesn't it? 

We finally just recently got a new car that has all of that stuff. 

Yes. 

We've been driving around with a car that that you still use, that you don't even have electric windows in it. 

With MapQuest, McGregor's. 

We just wind the windows up with our. And you know which is. 

Good. I like that. 

I mean, how did we, how do we even leave doing that? 

I don't understand the new car. 

So having navigation is very interesting. 

There's. 

I don't understand how to do anything in that car. 

Yes, it's great. Adaptive cruise control and all of that stuff, I. Mean, you know. Hmm. 

And it tells you it's. So not only does it display where you're turning it, actually it's it tells you it's like, you know, in 500 metres turn left. 

Thanks. 

Yeah. 

Great. 

Thanks very. You can even pick who you're going to get to do that for you, but I like that you can say got that you. Got the traffic data and go down and have a look at straight view although it's. I I I love all the viral things of people when they get wind of when the Street View camera might be in their neighbourhood and they're trying to do something that's very, very fun, yeah. 

Ohh, isn't that excellence? They do that one finger salute and. Something like that. It's now got over a billion active. And it's started to integrate AI into what is well, which is interesting. So that's includes things like predictive traffic analysis and personalised recommendations for restaurants, attractions and more. 

Yes. 

It's like ohh yes. You've been driving to a lot of McDonald's. You might like another one here on your way to the coast. 

Yeah, yeah. 

He's he's the McDonald's. We know what you want. You want fries? 

Really. 

Yeah. 

And then, like you know, eventually you become so large that they need to map your body with Google because it keeps recommending you go into fast food outlets. It's a it's a brave new world. 

Yes. 

It's a navigate our way over to the music part of the show. 

Ohh good one good one lap tests. 

See what I did there? Yeah. Yeah, still got it. Did you just call me MapQuest? 

I do. Yes, let's go to Australia #1 here in Australia 20 years ago over and over. 

We put an X on the end of that. 

Nelly, featuring Tim McGraw. 

Because it's all I think about it. Talking. 

0 K. 

Maybe you? Hey, and hurts so bad cause it's all in my. 

Think about it. Happy. 

That seems that's light. That seems to be light in Australia. We spoke about that song a long time ago. 

We're a bit slow. 

I'm very happy that nitty and nasty girl are gone with a terrible song. 

Dial 90. Yes, from Nellie instead. Well, maybe we thought that nitty was Nelly. Maybe we just got confused. 

That's look, they're not in the sign. 

Something we'd do. 

It's not. 

Missy. Nelly probably looks the same. 

Probably the same people. That's fair. 

It's. 

My name wrong? You're running Matt. 

Yeah, potent. 

Yeah. 

Really. Yeah, it was in. The top five in America of sort of half. Way three goes the way through last. 

Yeah. 

Year I think. 

So it's taken a while. 

Yeah, maybe the album only just came out over and. 

I mean, it's not to say that with snow to say that it wasn't on the charts, it's just I don't. 

Fairly well something. 

Maybe there's been a push. Who knows? 

Maybe maybe some record company? 

Some some DJ up in Sydney got a free bottle of bourbon. 

It comes. 

And decided to play it in rotation. 

It's like ohh my God, I forgot to get you to play Nelly. Here have this bottle of bourbon and go go for. Broke. Alright, I'll make it #1 within a week. 

I'm really sorry. 

Cool. Have two. Yeah. 

Ever in the UK, #1 like toy soldiers have. Them. 

Used to be a time when you could just say a rhyme and wouldn't have to worry about wanting your people dying, but now we're celebrated, cause once you put someone's kitchen, it just gets escalated. 

So game. 

Ohh is it easy to come barking call names and you ain't scrapping? 

Morning. 

You actually tried to stop 50 Toby from means great sat wouldn't kicked it and had a chat with him and asked him not to start it. 

Message. 

He wasn't going to go after I started. 

Death and on it goes. We spoke about that one as well, yes. 

Ohh Josh, I'll room with reference to rule that we spoke about it in the context of encore, the album that came out last year because, yeah, there was a remedy. 

Right when the album's released, yes. 

He did the filler songs because some of the songs were leaked and we I think we commented that this was one of the better songs on. 

Yes. You can be angry. Record a bunch of stuff. 

It's one of the better ones and the album with the the. 

This isn't. Whole. 

Yeah. 

Martika election for towards. 

Ohh toy soldiers, yeah. 

Shut. 

We. 

Down night go. 

Sorry, I just had my cigarette lighter up in the air, so that one. 

Right. 

Ohh I I think it was a very smart move sampling that that track for toy soldiers, yeah. 

Yeah. And it and as we mentioned, it was about. The beef with 50. Cent and gerule the tensions between Benzino and the source magazine, which was a long standing feud with M&M. 

Yeah. 

And also the death of proof, which was Eminem's close friend and member of D12, who was shot. Although I think he was shot later, so it kind of had this prophecy kind of vibe. 

Product. 

Did this song help squash any beefs? Is that did it help squash beef? Did it smooth anything over? 

I don't think it. 

Ohh is it just a good song? 

I don't. Yeah, I don't think it did. I think to rule this still off, being cranky and rude and after this. 

Ohh. 

Well, Amanda's Ja Rule is vicereine. Can't really. You can't turn a terrible human being into something great overnight, can you? 

Let's go over to check. 

People can change. I know people can change, yes. 

Yeah. Give him a break. I US top five sounded like this. Hi. 

Tell me. Window in Nova DJ3000 the dance. 

Yeah. 

Make sure you ride before you. 

Choose spin, don't you? 

For one alone. 4. 

Ohh no saw one. Blocks beside me my shower, all I see only thing and. So sad BTW, someone. Well, fine. 

Sing a song. 

And it's good to stand up for me. 

Don't. Listen live and if you taking phone. What? This. 

Better be straight. 

If you're looking at me. 

To let me see you one, two step stop. 

Ohh. 

Everybody. 

Ohh. 

Want to sleep? 

I. 

The phone. 

Well, you should let me love you. Let me be the ones you give you everything you want. Any tea? A baby, good love and Princess. 

Interesting. Hmm, interesting in the. 

Hmm. 

It's this kind of a rock punk element in the charts for the first time in what seems like forever. 

MMM yes, this is true. 

But let's recap. Let's recap. 

It's very. 

We'll get to that #5 lovers and friends, little Johnny side boys feature usher and louder. 

Never. 

Side note, I I did enjoy Luda was here in Australia recently. 

That's ludicrous for anyone unfamiliar with Mel's colloquial. 

Yes, you're friends with him at Saluda. 

Obviously be better friends with him than most of. 

If you follow him, if you follow him on Insta, it's louder and I do follow him. 

Us. Luda. 

And I was enjoying his journey around Australia and. He was doing these swimming in Perth and then he was in front of the graffiti walls in Melbourne. He was having balls, having such a good time. 

Ohh yeah, I'm living his best life. 

And I think, yeah, I. He got an at one of the concerts. We gave him an award for something. I don't know what it. Was and I was hoping he'd made his way to Canberra and take. 

Did we? 

Some happy snaps around Canberra. 

I know what memorial? 

He's keeping keeping my eye out for Luda at some of the landmarks. 

Yeah. 

Fairer. 

Yeah, maybe the Carillion. 

Yep, Yep. 

Do you wanna pose at the Carillion or something? 

P yeah, yeah. 

Big down on Black Mountain peninsula. 

Western park. That's always a good time on the. The little railway. 

Ohh the miniature railway. 

He would have loved that great photographers. 

Yeah, I could say could say Hindu driving. 

When you move. 

Get out the way. 

Unfortunately, he didn't make it to Canberra, but we still love him. 

Hmm. 

A new entry as he mentioned, will come back to that Blvd Blvd. Sorry of broken dreams. Green Day soldier, Destiny's Child. That was actually a question on pop culture jeopardy the other day, and the the other day. 

Was it you? Say the other day, like it aired at a certain time. You could talk about like streaming services, doing game shows all of a sudden. 

The other day. Ohh why I think I thought it. 

But anyway. 

Was on everyday. 

Nah, Nah. 

Ohh so so our son's just streaming it all the time. 

Yeah you can. 

Non stop. 

You can actually you can binge it if you like. 

Ohh OK really I'm very good at it. 

Ohh it's good time. Yes, pop close to Jeff. 

I'm very good. That was a. 

These means very good. 

So the question was what military themed song from Destiny's Child needed a man who was? What did they say in the words? Something that yes, hood. 

Hood. 

Who did you know what I mean? 

And I was like, I do know what you mean. I know that answer. I know that that soldier and the team that asked for the question. 

Excuse me. What is soldier that yet the Destiny's Child? 

Ohh very good. The team that answered it were called the the Bahar, the Beehive, Beehive, whatever, the yeah. 

Ohh, like Bey is in sorry B. 

Yeah. So would have been embarrassing if they didn't get it right. But they did get it right. 

Good, I'm glad. 

So the end of that story 1 two step Sierra. Number two, let me love you, Mario #1. 

Ohh but yeah. 

Let's see. Let's circle back to the rock. Tell us about the rock, hmm? 

Well Blvd. Of broken dreams. Green Day. I mean, it's great to see them in the charts. This is off the back of American idiot, which is an album that was very controversial. 

Yes. 

So there's a very real possibility that they wouldn't have charted with that, but they do know how to. All right, a great pop song. Green Day and they have you straight from the beginning. 

I want the lonely Rd the only one that I have ever known. Don't know where goods, but it's only me and I walk alone. 

Rick. 

Definitely. I mean, there's that's probably one of the most iconic songs. I mean, you've got time of your life. You've got American idiot. 

Hmm. 

You've got Blvd. Of broken dreams and some of the earlier stuff. Some of the punk stuff, like Longview and things like that, was very good as well, but definitely one of them. This ones they released that as a single from American idiot, obviously, and it became a very defining track of the early 2000s. 

Hmm. 

It's about loneliness and self reflection and alienation, and that protagonist being Billy Joel is walking along Billy Joel. Far out Billy Joe, not Billy Joel. Billy Joe's using the Gregory's Billy Joe's using Google Maps to find the Boulevard of Broken dreams. Yeah, yeah, working on following that character of Jesus suburbia from the the the whole concept album of American yes, Yes. 

Yes. Yeah, that has that theme running. Through it, doesn't it? 

And and I think you know, you say that Song's iconic, but I would argue too that Billy Joe Armstrong's voice is so distinct. And iconic as well. And he's very much that, that, that voice of his just ties it all together like he's got a spectacular voice for those sort of songs that I think it's great so that. 

Hmm. 

But but there was controversy. They did compare the opening guitar riff to that of Wonderwall by Oasis. Ohh which I don't see or hear to be. 

Have you got the start? 

Honest with you? 

Whoops, have you got the start? 

Of wonder wool. 

Of. 

Well, yes, I'll drop. 

Green Day. 

Well, that was it. That was the. 

I walk a lonely Rd. 

Still days. 

The only one that I. 

It's the strumming I think. 

No, it's for yes. 

I think we're all like ohh he's strumming. 

Wouldn't Noel Gallagher's downplayed it? He he did joke about perhaps doing a mash up with them, but he said the similarity. 

As I'm too busy having tea with the PM. 

Exactly. Just. 

A better things to do right now. 

We go meet up with Tony Blair. 

Scotch finger. 

Yeah. Yes. 

Making no graves, Tony. 

Do not have time to discuss the similarities between Wonderwall and the bullivard of broken dreams. 

The 6th I meeting up with sex appeal in a straw hat right now. 

Also also very different things. One is a wall, the other is a Blvd. Two very different things straight away, so let's just dispense with all of the controversy right now. 

Yeah. 

Put it to bed. 

With ohh. 

One is a wall. One is a Blvd. One separates things. The other thing is walked on. So just cool your jets. 

OK, album release. 

Ohh yeah. 

Ohh not an album. Release I lie a single release. 

A single release. 

We have the debut solo single from Rob Thomas. 

Ohh, this is when he left the. Band. 

When he left the band and. 

Left Matchbox 20. 

Released. A lonely no more. 

How have to pay for this? 

I don't want to know love, comma song some of my. I don't wanna Grimm. Ohh. Can never stand for. 

Playlist. 

You did have a different sound to Matchbox 20, but you know how. I just talked about Billie Joe Armstrong's voice being quite iconic and kind of the thing that ties it all together. You could argue the same thing with Matchbox 20, like they're not Matchbox 20 without Rob Thomas. 

Yeah. Hmm. 

And yet Rob Thomas selfishly goes solo and does this stuff, which is a lot more poppy, I have to say it's a lot more poppy. It's it's not as hot. I see rock. There's a little bit of dance in there. You can hear a few little samples in there, so it's definitely a more commercial leaning if I mean, how can you say it's a more commercial than Matchbox 20, right? 

Every. Is a good match. Will slow. 

So anyway, he wanted to obviously go and do his own thing and find himself outside. Is the full walls of Matchbox 20 and he's done that and he was successful. 

Did they get that? 

Did they? Were they on hiatus and did they come back together after that? Or was that the end of Matchbox 20I? 

I don't know. 

Did. Never. I never really paid that much attention to them, to be honest. 

Let's see. Ends. I don't know, and I think if there was any kind of, you know, they're really nice guys pronounce told you that. 

I think they're still friends. What are the songs? Did he do solo? Was there any other? 

Ohh, what the he he. He done that song with Santana. I think it may be having he was. 

You know. 

That doesn't count smooth. 

About to umm. 

Nice smooth was like 90s, late 90s, early 2000, yeah. 

Was it? Yeah, I can. So you've obviously got a taste maybe from Carlos Santana and then he's. 

I can't remember anything else that he did solo. Yeah, I can't remember any other songs besides that one. 

Ohh um. Yeah. No, nothing comes to mind. Alright, so let's do another album. 

Hi. 

Ohh no. 

We can talk about that. He peaked at number six on the Billboard Hot 100. He reached number one on the adult Top 40 charts on the adults in Top 40 charts for adults only. 

Ohh the lightning. 

The following Top 40 chart is for adults only disappointed if Rob Thomas was #1. 

Ohh. 

At that I mean lead want to see something a bit more raunchy? 

Like GoDaddy baby. 

Anyway, top ten positions. 

Yes, of course. 

Australia loved him. Canada loved in New Zealand love him. 

We still do still still all over. The radio there you still? 

Yeah, he is. He is, and I'm sure that he's got other solo stuff that is more noticeable. But you've got to remember our radio career finished in 2004 and we were into 2005. 

We just can't recall it rather. 

Yes. 

So you've got a clue what's we're our guess is as good as anyone else's. 

When I we had no idea. 

Then we'll click. 

She can't start making your own podcast and talk about music post 2005 cause we're useless to you. If you want information I do know about this album, though the Mars Volta. A big fan of the band at the Drive in and out of the ashes of at the Drive in came the Mars Volta and they released Francis the mute, which was their second studio album and very complex, proggy, ambitious storytelling. Lots of jazz. Latin music experimental. It's such a wonderful, wonderful album. Francis the mute. And it's so eclectic and dynamic. It really did solidify their reputation as being absolute innovators in the early 2000s, and I think they still are to. This day, but it was inspired. But remember, we talked about their sound technician, Jeremy Michael Ward, who also did Samples, died of a heroin overdose. 

Hmm. 

And I. And so this album was inspired by a diary that Jeremy Michael Ward found. 

Hmm. 

And it contains all these cryptic entries about the author searching for biological family members in the diary. Right, so each song on the album, it's a concept album, represents a different person referenced in the diary, and one of my favourite songs on this album is in Spanish. 

Hmm. 

Ohh that's home. 

It's lvr, lvr quiz. 

He. 

Happy evil take down your. 

Ohh. 

Close. 

Sad. Last seen me maybe dance. 

Ohh actually hang around and Guzman and Gomez. If they played that instead of some of the other that they play in there, but look, if you have not heard the Mars Volta before, get on it. They're great. Go and seek it out. I mean, you've had 20 years, so I don't know what you've been doing, but they are a fantastic band. Scare the box office. 

Hmm. In Australia, we put Natalie Portman stripper movie to #1. We spoken about that closer, closer, closer. 

What was? 

Ohh. I say. Closer you say? 

Think Alyssa. 

Closer. It's probably closer, not closer like cause, cause it's a love story thing, right? 

I think yeah, probably. Who knows? So they're getting closer, or maybe it was like closer. 

Yeah, I'm having flashbacks to the last conversation we had about. 

Like. 

So. 

Yeah. 

This is probably the same one we've been. 

OK. We've been there. There. 

I'm sorry, we did have a a big one come out in the states though. 

Yes, let's move on. 

It was a boogie man. Which is produced by Sam Raimi, who's just a horror movie God, Evil Dead Spiderman. 

What you can't. 

Do. 

What was the? Ah. 

He only produced this one, was directed by Stephen Kay. It's about this guy who has a kid, witnessed his dad being taken by a mysterious entity from his closet, which led to years of trauma and fear. 

Ohh no thanks. 

He's like there's a boogie man. They're like no team. There's no boogeyman. He goes back to his childhood home and he confronts his fears and he wants to uncover the truth behind the entity known as the Boogeyman. 

For 15 years, everybody told me I was making it up. Everyone said it's just a story. So such thing as the booking man. 

That I was. 

The. 

Right. Listen to me, Tim. It's time to grow up. 

Nothing supernatural happened. 

Hey, we're gonna get weird on me again, alright? No. 

The feelings you're having. 

I'm saying things, Jess. They're going to get worse. 

Some as you face this. 

Go home, Tim. 

Spend one night in that house. 

It will help. 

Are you scared of? 

When you're afraid, close your eyes and count to 5. Sometimes it works for me one. 

Why the hell? 

Was that 2? 

3. 

Every. 

Please open the door food. 

What happens when you get to 6? 

Ohh. 

Just waiting for you. 

Ohh. 

It's waiting for you. 

No, thank you. 

He's scared. 

I am. I don't like that stuff. 

It's an interesting concept that's probably very poorly executed, really, if we're being honest about this film, yeah, it it was. 

Did you watch it? 

I vaguely remember as kind of forgettable. It's one of those films that I you hate. Watch almost like. I but The thing is, with this right is I like it when horror is bad, like I but not intentionally bad. So this movie was trying to be. Good. And it was bad. 

Hmm. 

It was bad. 

His back. 

It's bad, Lucy lawless. 

It did. It had it had Lucy Lawless. 

That would have been goose. 

That's probably Emily Deschanel was probably the only other bigger name in that that I could think of. There wasn't many huge names in their Sam Raimi. 

And she the bones chick. 

Yeah. 

Has she gone in? 

No, that was Zoe. 

Bones just sent a few stuff. 

I think it's like a sister, wasn't it? Maybe there's another Deschanel. 

Another Deschanel. 

Maybe they were delighted. A deed seems too much to be a coincidence. 

Possibly, since they're very unusual last and himself say that they probably have. 

Those deschanels, yeah, running roughshod over Hollywood. But yeah, like Sam Ramey was the name that pulled me into it as a producer. 

Yes. 

But it's just like, you know, he just threw money at it. Said go make a movie. I need to write this off on tax. I think the critics 11% the audience 21%, but I think from a hate watch and and horror that's so bad, it's good point of view. 

Yeah. 

It's great cause it wasn't ironically bad. It was just bad and that's where the fun is. It's not one of those movies like a Sharknado, where it tries to be bad, to be fun. Me. And so it's just bad, which then makes that a lot of fun. 

But maybe overtime it's now become bad. 

Do you? 

Ironic too. 

Well, there, there have been a lot of movies that I have watched again that we've discussed in the podcast and thoroughly enjoyed. 

So maybe if you go back and watch. It now, would it be good? Bad. Hmm. 

I don't think this will be one of them. 

Maybe you need to give another. Chance, yeah. 

I don't think so. I don't think so. 

Alright, let's move on to TV then. We had a big debut in action. Debuts right after the Superbowl, the debut of American Dads. 

Good morning. You Sai gotta feeling that it's gonna be a wonderful day. The sun in the sky has a smile on his face and he shine in a salute to the American race. Ohh boy swells the sun. Good morning. You astray. 

Morning you. 

I enjoyed this. Show. I just wish I'd watched more of it. I kinda Family Guy. American dad. Great show, Seth MacFarlane. 

They did. 

Both didn't. 

Yes, he's a fantastic voice actor too, and he just a great comedy writer and he likes to push the envelope and he likes to do things controversy and he likes to offend people. 

Yeah. Is, yeah. 

And I think that's what all good comedies, and there's nothing is off limits with Seth Mcfarlane's comedy, which is good and bad because you will find yourself at some stage even if you enjoy 90%. 

Hmm hmm. 

To the jokes, there's gonna be one or two that. Offend you and that is good. 

We got. Oh, oh, no. 

It'll help you build resilience. It's good. So obviously, Seth MacFarlane Family Day creates, he said. It premiers on Fox, comes on right after the Superbowl, which helps a. Lot. 

Yes. 

It was created by McFarland, Mike Barker and Matt Weitzman. It's known for very absurd humour, social and political satire, and quirky and unconventional characters. It centres on the Smith family, living in the fictional town of Langley Falls in Vic. Virginia, it's led by Stan Smith, who is the conservative CIA agent whose outlandish schemes and unwavering patriotism often lead to hilarious situations. But and that's that's Steph McFarlane, whose voicing him. 

Hmm. 

He's date. The gung ho CIA guy. He's, you know, the epitome of the American patriot and role model serving his country. 

Francine and his is his wife and she's got a bit of a wild pass. 

Hmm. 

Yes, she used to misbehave of it, Francine. 

France then there's yes, there's a few risque episodes advanced. 

Which is good. 

*** Hailey is the liberal free spirited daughter. 

It. 

Yes, he doesn't agree with Dad at all. 

No. 

Very concerned clashes with his conservative views. 

Steve is the nerdy son who dreams of popularity in romance. 

Hmm. 

Roger is the alien. 

The alien Love Roger the alien. 

Very flamboyant, the alien. 

Yes, he rescued him from area Stan. Rescued him from area 51. 

I'll vet Sir. 

Roger, Roger disguises himself in lots of costumes, but he's he very much got that. 

He came. 

He reminds me of the uncle on Dewey. 

Last. 

You know, he's got that, that kind of that sort of persona. And then Klaus, the goldfish as well. 

Thinking of fish? 

Klaus the goldfish with the mind of the German ski area as the result of the CIA experiment. So they took the brain out of a German skier and put it into the goldfish, which I think is if we really wanna get into it is, if you look at the conspiracy theories around Operation paper clip and how the CIA apparently bought all the Nazi scientists back to the USA to work on stuff, there's there's kind of undertones of, perhaps, maybe they transplanted the brain of a except it's a German skier in the show into the goldfish, which I thought was good. 

Ohh. 

Life. And known as you mentioned, for pushing boundaries politically. Fact sensitive topics, religion, politics, race, sexuality, they it goes everywhere. 

You know how. Like that's starting to change certain movies and shows now sense of movies and shows like gone with the wind for example, because of the the racism in that film, they're changing it. It's like, you know, might been representative at the time, that doesn't represent society's values these days. 

Hmm. 

I don't know what they're going to do with these shows. 

I I don't think they can. 

I don't know what they gonna do with him. 

There be nothing there, D be nothing left. 

What would? 

There was the the episode. There was a lot of criticism as well around some of the episodes. There was the post apocalyptic world after the Christian Rapture, where Stan tries to win back Francine while battling the Antichrist Roger the alien. 

Yeah. 

I think just in general, a lot of people were offended by Roger because he he's over the top behaviour and disguises as he. 

She's very, very sexually fluid, Roger. 

Criticised its stereotypical or inappropriate. 

He's an alien. He identifies as an alien. 

Ohh. Remember when Steve was caught? Let's say pleasuring himself and Stan had to handle that one. 

Ohh yes yeah, it's had to have the father son chat, yes. 

That. 

Is very. 

Quick. 

This one stands out in my mind. This one is burnt into my memory when Francine had the affair with the hot tub, was by Cee Lo. 

Hmm. 

Nice. That was pretty good. Pretty bizarre though as well. I really liked when they did the when when Stan was doing the CIA recruitment video. 

And now a message from the CIA. 

Hi, I'm agent Stan Smith of the new CIA. What's new about the CIA? Ohh nothing except everything. Let's go. 

Money. 

Push it. 

Who? That was fun. You know, in the past the CIA has been accused of using cruel methods to get information. Well, not anymore. OK, there's a terrorist training camp 30 miles SW of Kabul, but that's all I know. 

I. 

Too bad, I guess we're done here. 

Wait, wait. I know where there's a battle of smallpox. 

How? Can I flip over? Yes. 

Well, we don't want to give away all our secrets. 

Ohh. 

Ohh my goodness. 

So you picture the interrogation. Was instead. It was a a massage anyway. Great show, great show. There was another great show. Well, was it a great show? It had made a return to Australian screens. 

Ohh yes yes. 

It is a bit of an institution. I mean it was derived from an American concept, but I think Australia made its own, but I think every country probably made its own. 

All loved this show on Saturday nights. Just watching people basically fall over in each for now. 

Funniest time videos. You can't lose. 

Hmm. 

Ohh, what funniest time videos is starting? 

Just lunch. 

Ohh sounds like a good excuse for a party. 

Is okay. Who's hello? But. 

Obviously. Ohh. 

It's it's a studio from your time videos and now please welcome your host Tony Heron. 

Hello and welcome to the show. Tonight we launched the national video test for 2000 and. 5. Yes, it's time for all you undiscovered film makers to get out there and strut your stuff. Plus, we'll be opening up our big book of Fractured fairy tales and introducing you to the world's dumbest guys. Well, as many as we've got time for, but there are heaps of other funny videos to come before then, so we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Mind you, that's not always a good idea. 

Sounds delightful, Tony. Yeah. I mean, she's, you know, giving good autocue there as she would. 

Yeah. 

Yes, I like her. 

There's a tiny parent. I mean, before that, we'd had jobeth Taylor. 

Jobeth Taylor. 

Fiona McDonald. Thank you. 

Trina Roundtree did a couple of months, did a short stint. 

As the Chief, Doug Mauri did that. 

Well, it started with. 

Nobody home videos that lasted for half an episode until Kerry Packer rang and took him off the airs. 

That's right. Graham Kennedy started. 

Yeah. 

Ohh. It didn't he? 

Graham Kennedy's funniest prank videos. 

When we first, when we first took it from from America. 

Yes, well, he was the OJ. He was great. 

Yeah. And so was humorous home videos submitted by viewer. So you'd you'd send in your VHS or you beat it, depending on how rich you were. 

They'd whack it in the old JVC VCR. 

They would, and then they play the clips and the voice. I liked the voice over guy. I think without the voice over guy, I don't think. It would have been half as funny. 

You reckon? 

So the the little voice that he'd over the top, that was almost funny. 

Ohh and I sometimes that was a bit annoying. 

I thought I liked that. 

Sometimes it made videos that weren't all that funny, a little bit funnier. 

And I think if they played your video, you got $500 and then if you won, you'd get. 

Hmm. 

I don't know people. 

Would vote 10 grand. It was 10 grand. 

That's right. 

Yeah, but it was. This is when they had SMS voting. And what? 

Ohh, that was later on so earlier on at what? I don't think it was. 

Ohh no I didn't. I do it now. Didn't I have to ring or something for voting in? 

2000 in the 2000s, yes. 

And five. 

But in the early days of it it I think it would be if you did, someone would win for the year. 

In the early. Now. Ohh thoughts the grand final. 

Remember, everyone who won would go in and then there was like a mega. Winner and I think they got. Like a showcase or something. 

Yeah. 

Ohh don't know something. 

Something like looking? They threw money at him. 

Like passing but it was always, you know, pet. 

They threw money at him. 

Children weddings and mainly accidents, mainly people were hurting. A lot of. 

Yeah. 

A lot of shots to the groyne. In funny home videos. 

Yeah, I mean, this is back during a time where I feel that a video camera was a nice to have like it's a luxury item. 

This. 

We'll people that were winning on that were rich cause you you were rich. 

Right, you've got a video camera. 

If you want a video camera. 

What do you need money for? 

That's what I used to think. 

Yes. 

When I watched it actually to be honest. 

Aren't you? I think you've got enough money. I think maybe you should donate it to charity or buy video cameras for us lay folk and see if we can be funnier. 

The. 

I'm sure we could be funnier. So this time 20 years ago, I think it was a revamp, it was a new look. They had new graphics at the start. They've moved into a new studio and like he said, it started as the Australian version of the American one and they moved further away from the branding and the imaging from American. 

Yep. 

Yes. 

We thought, well, we'll do our own, very futuristic. There was lots of flu and. 

Yeah. 

I was very fancy. It was nice. 

Well, ohh, you know the end is nigh for funniest home videos. 

That's very nice set. 

Even back in 2005, I think there's a little thing that debuts in a couple of weeks. 

Well, well, we are. A couple of weeks time that becomes, yeah, funny home videos 24/7 just. 

Skills. It just kills it but. Back then, I obviously I was pretty done with funniest. 

That's great. 

I. Enjoyed it? 

Don't be moved by times. 

No, I loved it. 

Both time Tony Parent got on there. I have to. Say ohh I didn't. 

Ohh I liked her for me. 

Streets. 

I liked her. 

Just grapes. 

I just. I was done with funny things. 

It's time to do this. 

She broke her arm. Roller skating about 3 years ago. 

Did she? 

China didn't get that on type. 

Friend. 

That would have be. 

She probably would have won the $10,000 for that, no? 

And some money. 

Ohh. 

Ohh my I've just when you think you're done with everything. This book we didn't read, yes. 

Let me just point out, Rod from the start. This is from the non fiction shelf. Ohh OK, the shelf of truth, right? Non fiction, just to clear anything up, remember what happened last time you did. A non fiction. 

What's what's it called? 

It's called blink. The power of sinking without thinking by Malcolm Gladwell. 

It's serious. Well, I wanna use this track. It's called Mystics of the cosmos by Unicorn heads. I think it's very depressing. 

Okay OK. 

Ready. 

Drawing on cutting edge neuroscience and psychology and displaying all of the brilliance that made the tipping point a club. Which bleach changes the way you'll understand every decision you make. Never again will you think about thinking the same way. I'm already confused. Malcolm Gladwell redefined how we understand the world around us now in Blinky Revolutionises. The way we understand the world within blink is a book about how we think about thinking about choices that seem to be made in an instant in the blink of an eye that actually aren't as simple as they seem. Why are some people brilliant decision makers, while others are constantly? Except why do some people follow their instincts and win while others end up stumbling into error? How do our brains really work in the office? In the classroom, in the kitchen, and in the bedroom. And why are the best decisions often those that are impossible to explain to others? In Blink, we meet the psychologist who has learned to predict whether a marriage will last based on a few minutes of observing a couple. The tennis coach, who knows when a player will double fault before the racket even makes contact with the ball, the antiquities expert who recognises a fake at a glance here. Two other great failures. Bleach. The election of Warren haunting New Coke and the shooting of Amadou Diallo by police Blink reveals that greatest decision makers aren't those who process the most information or spend the most time deliberating as great guitar. So about being in. There. Listen to that. Yeah, Blink reveals that great decision makers aren't those who process the most information or spend the most time deliberating. But those who have perfected the art of thin slicing, filtering the very few factors that matter from an overwhelming number of variables. 

Okay. 

Hey Ohh sorry I don't even OK sure. He's gonna tell me why people do things the way. That they do. 

It's about decision making and why something wrong. 

That's. Some people are luckier than others. 

Make good decisions and something makes bad decisions in the how how they make decisions and. 

Others make. Have they come to the conclusion to make a decision? 

Yes, great. 

Loss. 

Gabrielle one star. 

Let's get on the Google Maps. Take all the decision making out of it. 

Every so often you need a book to clean your mind from the amazing stories you read previously and can't get into another one. So you read a book like this. This book serves the same purpose as the ginger they give you on a sushi place. 

Ohh nice. Although the the coffee beans that you sniff in the with the perfumes like a douche for your. 

The sniffing tossing beads in between the perfume. MMM. 

Brain. Great motto. One star you might enjoy the irony of reading a book about how you can trust your gut instinct all the way to the end. Even though your gut kept shouting at you, but it wasn't worth. Your time to. Read this book. Point being, if you would like Malcolm Gladwell to punch you in your gut instinct, this book will do the trick. 

Christine Frank, one star, a graduate of Northgate University, Gladwell tells us that people make snap decisions next week. Night follows day. 

No, the. Ohh. 

Stephanie Lynn, One star only some of this book up for you in one short sentence. One snap judgments are good, except for when they're bad. Where's where's .2? 

Thanks, Stephanie. 

She's just like. 

No one short sentence. 

But then why did she have to preface? 

That's the one short sentence just to show you where the sentence started to be. 

It with the one. One I choose to start the sentence now. 

Super clean, super clean. 

OK, it's. 

This is where it starts. L justelle the letter. Ohh L1 Star Square bracket insert sounds fake, but okay meme close square bracket obviously good. 

Hmm. 

Reads doesn't allow for for pictures and memes or ohh emoticons. 

For mains 99, but she went for it anyway. 

We know what she means. Thank you, L1 star. 

Do we? 

Probably not the best decision that she could have made. 

There probably should have read the book properly. 

What's do you think that this book would have helped you make any better decisions in life? 

No, cause I like having all the facts and this guy's like, you don't need all the facts and he's talking about thin slicing. And I just started thinking about soccer ball. Ham. 

What's thin? Slicing. I don't understand what thin slicing is. 

I just thought of him at the deli when you asked it to. 

Yeah. 

Be thinly sliced. 

Yeah. So you almost see through it, yeah. 

Yeah, I'm not sociable. Han, that needs to be fairly thick. I started. What's the other one? The really thin sliced ham, usually a smoked ham, is is thin sliced. 

Champagne and champagne ham, hmm. 

Yes. So sorry, I went to ham. I'm just bored. 

Straight away. 

Hmm. 

Yeah. 

Ohh. 

Alright, let's wrap this puppy up. 

Hmm. 

Actually, don't wrap up puppies. That's terrible. It's cruel. Let's wrap this show up though. Let's do this. Cause we are at hatches, matches and dispatches and we have another match with three, three with matches. Although this wasn't a wedding, this was a proposal, a proposal from a very high profiled individual or couple, one of which was harassed by the paparazzi and said this. 

Yes. 

What are you doing? 

Are you feeling mam? 

What? 

All right. 

Just the robot. 

I'm just. 

I'm just coming down to Earth. 

Did he get down on one knee to propose? 

That's like. 

So. 

So not what time is it? 

It's. Else. 

What else? If you said Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles. You'd be correct. They they got engaged, yes. 

You. 

They announced the engagement on the 10th of February 2005. He proposed to her privately at his residence, Birkhall, on the Balmoral estate in Scotland, presented her with a unique engagement ring featuring a square cut diamond flanked by baguette diamonds. 

But get through. Yeah. Hmm, baguettes is kind of bread shaped. 

Brent shapes. 

Yeah, go well with the suckable ham. 

Yeah. Like elongated. 

Yeah. Believe. 

A couple of slices of that on you. I don't think they could be very good. 

Gonna face believed to. 

For your teeth though, I guess. 

Have belonged to his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. 

Hmm. 

They did a big announcement. At Clarence House, with an official statement on the 10th and they confirmed plans to marry later that year, they had to do a civil ceremony because she has a status of divorce. 

We've just fed. East erecting a memorial fountain to Princess Diana like the and and there is probably a perception that the the bed is is not all that cold and Camilla's moseying on in there. 

Yes, it's any of fencing. 

Hmm. 

So but but I mean, they've been together for a while on and off Charles and Camilla. 

At this point, yeah, I think so. 

And at this point, yes, it had been some time. 

So the civil ceremony happened in April. 

Yes. 

At Windsor Guildhall and then there was a blessing. 

Hmm. 

At Sheffield just Chapel. 

Yeah, we'll probably talk more about that. But they met at a Polo Cross match in the 70s and that's where that romantic connection. 

Hmm. 

There's probably some comment about horses. And he was like, you ain't seen nothing yet. And. Showed her his mallet and. 

This. 

Yeah. And then but, but they couldn't get together. There's societal expectations, royal pressures, so they separated, so the the whole circumstance of family and their civic duty tore them apart. 

Ohh. 

So she actually married a guy called Andrew Parker Bowles, and in 73, and they had two kids as like, three years after they kind of called off. 

Yes. 

And Charles married Diana, obviously an 80. Done with it and that was problematic. And then they rekindled their relationship in the late 70s and early 80s, even while they were married, controversies that was controversial. 

Yeah, it's very. 

That affair didn't become public knowledge until the early 90s, when that leaked conversation between Charles and Camilla confirmed it. And it became a major scandal. And that was that private phone. Call. 

Do you remember that? 

Yes, it was revolting. 

I think I would have been probably, yeah. Probably year 11. Yes, and it was all over the radio. It was such big news. It was leaked. I think the phone call happened late 80s, but it was leaked in 93 and this was after Charles and Diana had separated and it was quite explicit. 

Hmm. 

I think I think these days we refer to it as Tampax gate or tampon. 

Yes, where he basically was talking about how he'd wanna become ringing carnated as well. 

Speaking to the comment he made about. 

At the end there. 

Were playing it all over the radio and I think my dad was driving me to college and there's on the radio and it was such an uncomfortable thing to listen to. 

Thing. 

Yes. It was. I've look, I've got a copy of it, and I'm not gonna play it cause it's a private conversation. I don't think we should play it, but but I would argue, even though it was a private conversation and and people seemed to have a little bit more entitlement to the Royals, right? 

It's nice. 

So you're always like ohh, the poor Royals that you know, public scrutiny and all of that sort of stuff. 

And. 

However. 

They both married at this point. 

Not only. 

Pass, but their lifestyle is completely bankrolled by the tax payer. Yes, the only reason the royal family have an income is because the taxpayers bankroll. 

It. 

Hmm. 

So all of this, so you know as much as that infidelity and that dirty talk is on a phone that he owns that was bankrolled by the tax payer. I mean there is. Do you have a right to privacy? I'm not saying that at all. Just because you are public property in that the tax payer pays for everything, it's so, but it's slower. I pay your wages. Do you know? It's not quite that simple, but they are public figures who are bankrolled. Like it's different. If you're like a celebrity who's receiving an income because of a film you're in or something you've done, I mean, not because you're born into it. 

Because if you are ours. And also why like why have that conversation on on a on a phone line that the person how they found it? 

Well, it was it. The sun. Did the sun get on to? 

No how they found it. It was like some amateur dude. That was learning how to tap phones. Accidentally tapped into their phone. 

Ohh God. 

And I was like, ohh, hang on a minute. I know those voices. 

Ohh this is great, I'm on to something you. 

And Zoe, just like okay. I'll listen a little bit and record it. And then he ended up selling it to one of the papers. But he probably listening for. A few years until he got to that bit. 

Yeah. 

But yeah if any. Person with a little mild interest in tapping phones could tap their phone. I mean more fool them. They should have spoken in person rather than on the phone. 

I have a feeling I have a feeling. 

It's like putting things on the Internet. 

That. 

So it's careful what you wish for, like he's like, I wanna tap fines. I don't think he would have ever tapped another phone again. He's lost hearing that conversation. 

What's up? 

Hideous. 

He gave us, gave up, so that obviously then confirmed those longstanding rumours of the affair. 

Hideous, yes. 

Hmm. 

They they couldn't deny it after that, and it played a pretty significant role in how the public perceived the breakdown of Charles and dyes. Marriage. Yeah. And she I remember too, in the media, she was the villain. She was. 

Camilla. 

Horrible homewrecking villain. 

Ohh yes, scarlet woman. 

And you know, how dare she do this to our die? The people's Princess. 

Yeah. 

Sam and Diana had made a comment a few years earlier in the media after their marriage had broken down, saying there were three of us in this marriage. So that was a bit crowded. And then we all went. Ohh that's what she meant. 

Ohh that she was the 3rd. Is that is it? 

I don't. 

Do we know or is it just it's only open? 

We don't know for sure. 

Do we interpretation and speculation? Yes. 

We, we speculated, but over the years, I think the public did warm to. Her and I. 

I think, well, you've gotta give it to her. I mean, Charles, did I meet you? If you're sticking to. Guns, you know. 

And she I think she had some pretty carefully managed PR around her. 

Hmm, you've gotta have some pretty thick, leathery skin to endure. 

And painfully, fable pay. 

A lot of the jibes. 

By 2005, the public had come to accept her a little bit more and thought ohh well, I guess they're serious. 

Hmm. 

They're still too. 

Yeah. 

Lizzie gave her blessing. She was fine with it. 

Did. Yeah, she approved. 

Um, the queen? She did refrain from attending the civil ceremony, but that was because of protocol. 

Right. 

She did go to the the blessing. Now they didn't. 

Was it though? Was it because of prosthesis? Had Jesus. Well, he's probably the best out of all my sons at the moment, so I'll endorse it. But I'm not going to the wedding. 

They did a poll. 

Yeah. 

Isn't this? I think this is a bit much whether people like you imagine someone doing a poll on you. 

Hands up, who likes me? 

Yeah, that's a bit horrible, but they did so. 

MMM yeah. The people don't. The people don't pay for me to exist. 

Step. 

Do you know what I mean? 

But we'll talk about the poll. So yeah, November 20, 2435 percent of Britain's had a favourable view of Camilla, 33 had an unfavourable view and 29% didn't give a toss. 

Yeah. Yes. 

Swell, and that's probably a very natural conclusion to the to the programme for this week, so thank you very much for joining us and enduring. And all of that sort of stuff, it's been, it's been real. What have we got next week? Mel. 

Ohh well you know that and we talked about the beginning of the end of funny. Videos. 

Ohh yeah, killer. 

The big the big launch, the the murderer of funny home videos. 

The funniest time video killer comes out, yes. 

YouTube is, I think it's kind of announced leading up to the launch. So big, big moment for YouTube. 

You know what too? There's a cover story for how that was founded that I have believed for years and years and years, and that cover story is a lie. 

Yeah. 

Yes. 

And we will expose that lie. 

Okay. 

It's not like somebody else has an already exposed to, but we found it, so we'll share it with you next week. In the show, we've also got a heist. There's a big breakthrough in a massive heist that happened in the UK, which is a, you know how much I love heists and I think. 

Ohh yes yes. 

Ohh. 

Fashion Week. We're going to talk fashion. We're bringing back the fashions meant. 

Ohh, we've got a fashion. The Grammys, $0.50 sticks his head up in there somewhere. 

Hmm. 

I think we'll Smith's gonna be in the show as when he's not gonna. Look. Nobody else has been on the phone like Ryan Cabrera at this stage is a one off. Although if anyone does want to plug any stuff and they are reasonably famous and they think it might be worth their while please. You know it D be wonderful. We'd love to do it. We'll set the alarm and everything will get up early, but until that time, we're just gonna keep doing the normal show. 

Fears. 

You can find us on the socials Facebook, Instagram. Tick Tock search for t -, 20 podcasts. We might even. Though I'm not going to say that because I could too much to commit to, we've got a full time job. This isn't our day. Job. 

No, don't commit to it. 

Which is why the support means so much. Because if you weren't listening to it, we wouldn't be doing it. So keep listening to it and tell your friends, and let's keep growing the thing. And then, you know, we'll still have to do our day jobs. You can't put anymore effort in, but we do appreciate you and hopefully you appreciate it. 

See ya. 

Yeah. 

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