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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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The birth of YouTube: from dating fail to billion dollar baby
Explosions, heists and YouTube’s awkward dating era? This week on T minus 20:
💣 Rafik Hariri was assassinated in Beirut, triggering mass protests and forcing Syria to withdraw from Lebanon after nearly 30 years of occupation. The explosion, which killed Hariri and 21 others, sent shockwaves through the region, leading to the Cedar Revolution and an international investigation that would take over a decade to convict just one man.
💰 UK authorities were finally cracking down on one of the biggest heists in history—the Northern Bank Robbery. Back in December, a group of armed men kidnapped two bank employees and their families, forcing them to steal £26.5 million under threat of death. By February, the money started surfacing in some very creative hiding spots…
🎥 And then there’s YouTube—the site that almost never happened. Originally pitched as a video-based dating service (seriously), the founders even offered women $100 to upload videos of themselves. When the idea flopped, they pivoted, and within months, YouTube was changing the way we watched content forever.
🏆 Over at the Grammys, a shock loss for Kanye West, a shock win for Maroon 5 and a scene-stealing, emotional moment from Melissa Etheridge.
🎶 50 Cent’s Disco Inferno had clubs—and late-night TV—on fire. The video was so raunchy, it became an instant BET Uncut classic. If you ever had to mute the TV and pretend you were watching Nickelodeon when your parents walked in, we see you. 👀
🎥 At the box office, Will Smith was charming audiences in Hitch, proving that being awkward and clueless in love was still fixable with the right amount of coaching and dad jokes.
👗 J.Lo launched her first runway collection at NYFW, featuring skinny scarves, chunky knits, and a ruffled jumpsuit modeled by Naomi Campbell. Because 2005 fashion was absolute chaos and we loved every second of it.
🎧 All this and more on this week’s T Minus 20! Hit play, relive the chaos, and let’s take a trip back to 2005. 🚀
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the dark side. YouTube devious and we couch jump from Mariah Mcgreevey and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo. T -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Ma.
Ohh.
16 February 2005.
3 -, 20.
Hi.
What do you mean, talk? Show.
Me minus. 20 tonight. Breaker. Don't judge me yet. This is bananas.
How you will come home?
What's? My question is, who approved that good?
Do you see where this is going?
When?
Not real. Please.
We know where it's going.
Yeah.
It's going right back to the year 2005 because that's what we do on this show. We rewind that this week in history 20 years ago. It's called t -, 20. I'm Joe and that's Mel. And we're your host.
The.
Solo, Mel. Hi.
Yes, that's me. 13 to 19 February 2005 is where we're rewinding this week.
Ohh so this was bro well rehearsed as we started working with the PR agency and we said well, we were having a dinner party and my place in San Francisco which I didn't have that that.
Statement. And the rest of that story has shaken me to my very core.
Ohh.
This. It's Dave ******.
That is one of the.
As strongly held belief you've had.
That is one of the founders of YouTube, and I've always been well researched and understood. The history of how these platforms came to be, and one of them was the story of how YouTube was brought to fruition, and it turns out that the whole thing was a lie.
Hmm.
And they actually told us that it was a lie, and I only found that out recently. And I'm quite shook.
Ohh Dean.
So that's one.
Of the things that we're doing this week.
Precise in its planning, daring in its execution and staggering in its scale.
Staggering in its scale, precise in its planning. What was the other one delicate in its execution? That don't know. It's a heist, though. We have a good heist.
We have. It's been a while between HUS.
Love me a good cause it does.
This one delivers.
It does it deliver.
Yeah, it's an interesting one. It's lots of twist and twists and turns.
It's a big it's one of the bigger heists that we've discussed. I don't know if it's going to be as fun. There's some stuff in there, but anyway, this is fun.
Right now. Is my time and my moment thanks to the fans. Thanks to the accident.
Thanks to the fans and the accident. That's. That's Kanye West delivering a speech.
Ohh at the Grammys. When? When he, when he was safe at the. Grammys.
Yes, hang on Shanghai.
Before he went rogue, Kanye.
We're just gonna stop you right there for a second. I'm gonna let you have your moment. Actually, you've had your moment more than your moment, but we'll discuss his Grammy win a little bit later on in the show.
Ohh.
As well something.
That's created a lot of hype and hysteria, probably. Ohh, probably going on a month or so ago now. With the big announcements about Wendy's coming to Australia.
Ohh yeah, but like the American Wendy's coming out here, so the Wendy's, they do like burgers and chips and.
Hmm.
Farm Foods, Burgers and two milkshakes. And I ate it when I was in America. And it. Yeah, very big servings. Lots of different milkshakes I remember, and I think maybe some hot dogs.
Amazing. Amazing.
It was, yeah, it was typical American fast food.
Yeah. Ohh love to do you like a fast food. Franchise tour of America, but I just. I just don't have the counter. And I don't have the the the the fortitude to actually try and exercise it off after I've committed the crime either. So, but I just they've got so many options of, you know.
They do. And we were so excited to hear that it was coming here to Australia. I think they announced a few different locations.
We'll people freak out.
Remember when, like in and out Burger do the pop ups and and and when people get wind of them they I I can remember they did one in Canberra and people were.
Look, that's what this in and out.
Hmm.
Lined like they went viral and within half a day, thousands of people showed.
Yes.
Up for it. They inevitably sell out. You line up for four hours for basically a burger that you could buy that's similar to what you get at.
McDonald's and people just lose their mind over and I got really excited because I thought they were bringing back 90s, well, 80s, nineties Australian Wendy Wendy's like the OG Wendy's.
Yeah. Wendy's V Wendy's that we know and love because, well, right?
So there were none of this American Wendy's.
And that is the OG, Wendy. The the Wendy's that way love, know and love is the pink Wendy's at the Belco Mall.
Pink, Wendy.
And you said there was one at Tuggeranong Hyperdome and you go down and that was just an ice cream bar basically.
There was one at the Hyperdome. The hyper day, yeah. Well, it was ice cream, hot dogs and thick shades.
Ohh and hot dogs the hot dog.
Ohh my God, I just remembered the Hut doves.
So what do you remember? The hot dogs, they had this special way of making the hot dogs. They had these metal rods.
It was quite a rota.
It. Very, but it was a pointy it was a raw chicken. Pointy, dangerous, ******, dangerous.
Well, that was the that was the key. And that was that was hot too.
******.
Scorching hot, pointy metal rods.
So it was like writing metal rods that were heated up and they'd get the barn and they'd twist it and twist it down the rod so that effectively instead of cutting the bun.
I'd slide the button down the rod through the rod would become ensconced in the bun. Without being sliced it, we just kind of they would insert it.
It's instead of slicing the bun in half, you would put this whole with this hot rod and the the rod would then toast around this whole that it's just created.
Yes. So the the fold in the bun, the insertion would become quarterised and toasted to perfection.
He's toasted. And warm. Then they'd fill it with shredded cheese.
Yes, in into the hole, the cheese would melt in the hole and let me tell you.
That would then melt into the hole, and as the cheese is melting in the hole, they'd also insert the hot dog because you don't want the cheese melting too much because you've got to get the hot dog in so that the. Keys melt all the way down the dog.
That's right. And you have not lived until you have eaten a hot dog that has been inserted in a cheesy bread hole.
Ohh.
Incredible.
It's just dry, are they were great.
Stop it. I'm just thinking back and ohh my God, I think it was just called the Chase Dog.
I really loved those hot.
That one, that was the cheese dog.
Yeah, it was. It was of the Ed had also had sauce and mustard in it.
Yeah, they had other variations, but the. Cheese Dog was the.
The chase it's just.
Only one that I got, yeah.
Well, that was the OG cause it just you is simple and in that simplicity. Me. We found utter perfection.
Ohh and nothing fell out of it.
Well, that's right.
None of these onions falling on the floor in Bunnings and someone slipping over an injuring themselves. It was all contained within the bun, self contained.
Exactly.
It's perfection. It was the most perfect hot dog you would ever have in your life, and it the thing, the simplicity and the design.
Yes.
Is anyone could have made?
It the structural integrity, but incredible united the hot robs and you can't just get them anywhere.
You needed the tubes. You needed the hot metal roars to. No. Yeah.
They had about 6 of. Them so could do 6 hot. This is my. See, you understand why I'm so excited when they said Wendy's coming back. I'm like what? Um.
Yes, that is the. Six buns on those hot metal rods.
Ohh ah, and they'd also they had this incredible menu for soft serve as well.
And you knew someone was gonna have a party.
So they'd have all these different soft serves that you forget you they had the flake, so it was just soft serve with a flake in it.
Yes, I love. I love soft Sir.
Yes.
Yeah.
You had like a crunchy which where they put the syrup that dries hard and then they put honey combed sprinkles.
Yeah, you did the chopped dip. The choc dip just the smallest.
My favourite was the fun time, so the fun time was a soft serve that then dip it in the chocolate and then roll it in sprinkles.
Very plain choc dip thong.
Yeah.
Yeah, right. Right.
It was.
It was pretty basic, but it was incredible.
Yeah, I liked that one as well.
The fun time.
That was hundreds of thousands on the Choctaw and I used to replicate that at home with ice magic.
The fun time, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't it, but it always have to wait till.
It's not the same. This one's where they did faces with the Jeffers for eyes and the.
Excuse me. The aggro cone, the Agro Agro from Agros cartoon connection.
Was it actually? Was the face Acker?
I think he had the teeth.
Ohh yes, the fake.
They used the tea, the lolly tea.
The lolly teeth. I didn't realise that was that grow.
We think maybe Jeffers or Smarties for eyes.
I didn't. Maybe it wasn't a grow in Tuggeranong, maybe we just pulled it like the bogan.
I think there was a banana. There was a banana across there for his top lip and then the teeth.
Probably now it's probably just each other.
The agro cane is a thing of beauty.
Don't bargain wow advert.
I think it was, but it wasn't soft serve and there's such an alluda soft serve because when you're a kid, like, you couldn't get soft serve anywhere except for at the shop.
Well then, no. The ice Cream Truck Oscar man.
The ice cream truck, right? So the coveted thing, the soft serve.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
How do they get the texture? You could never replicate it, no matter. You could let your ice cream melt to the point of soft so but. You never had the patience for that when you had ice cream.
And then when you got Sizzler and you could get. Your own self set. That was a big deal.
Ohh, the game has changed.
Yeah. But anyway, back to Wendy's. They also did shakes and they were kind of the 1st that.
Yes.
Did what? But lightly is become the freak shakes. But.
Freak shakes.
Yeah.
That they they did it. They were the original, yeah.
Been there, done that. Mate, I went to Wendy's belco. I've been there. I've done it.
Yeah, before Mac has started.
You can have.
Yeah, those weird McDonald's, flurry things, Wendy's theology.
Whatever mate. You know, have you been the web?
Mean.
These like not American Wendy's, the one that serves all the burgers and all that other we're talking about Pink Wendy's, Belco mall, Tuggeranong Hyder, and the Australian institution that made the perfect hot dog with the the burnt hole in the middle of it that you could slide the dog.
King, Wendy's pink linden's.
And the cheese into. That's what we're talking about.
It's so rotten. So you knew someone that went on on as I can't.
Come here.
I'm just, I can taste it. I can taste the cheese dog.
Yeah, yeah.
Ohh my God.
I know.
Didn't you know someone who went on a pilgrimage to find? Because I think there is still. Ohh no. Wendy's was a franchise. Yeah. And I think they've kind of brought the franchise back, but I think it's Wendy's super Sunday. It's a little bit different, but I think some of the menu is similar.
Not sure.
Not sure the menu. I think some of the menu items are the same and he did and I'm not exactly sure the specific location cause I was just going through the socials one day and heaven forbid you actually go through the socials now and you see what your friends are doing as as opposed to being pushed advertisement all the time.
I don't have pilgrimage.
But I glimpsed upon this. I was like, ohh, that's somebody I know. And they're doing something in the Wendy's and he he's a big agro fan, and he's ordered the Agro come and like the kid that's working in the Wendy's.
Hmm.
No ******* idea.
Ohh would know who aircrew is.
Who actually?
No, of course not.
So I I think that he may have and I'm not sure entirely, but I think he may have had to talk them through the construction of the agro come from memory.
He had to guide them through the assembly of an agro.
Yeah. Yeah, I loved it.
Ohh that's beautiful.
I loved Wendy. Ohh my God.
Bring it back, if that. If that's a pop up in Tuggeranong, people would be. Queuing for days.
Yeah, like.
The guys? No.
Screw Carl's junior in and out, or whatever. Say I'm just burning all of these companies that could potentially endorse us, but they never will.
Pink Wendy's pink wendys forever.
Wendy's all the way. Yeah. Like bring it back. Let's get a Change.org petition going. Let's I don't know. Let's get your cones out, you know, say, stick it.
Yeah. Yeah. And your hot rods?
Well, I don't know what you do with the hot hot today anyway.
Ohh.
Can you bought? Can you buy those hot dog things now? The the hot rods for the hot dogs.
I have a feeling that they were.
Did I have a minute servo?
I don't see. I don't think they were designed for hot dogs. I think they've repurposed them from some other thing.
Right.
I reckon you'd find something in Bunnings.
Like some weed? Mediaeval torture device.
Ohh no like something to fix a car. Oregon, something I feel like it's it wasn't purpose built for that.
Man. Bread.
I think somebody just accidentally dropped a bun when they were fixing their car on this other apparatus.
How do I say ohh what am I gonna do now? I'll put a sausage in that. Somebody else who said I'll put a sausage and that is the the subject of the Hatch match and dispatch click. We've got another marriage.
Ohh do.
We don't wanna wrong, yes.
Yeah.
So there was a sausage put somewhere on a wedding night sometime 20 years ago. So there's another marriage. So that's where.
Full Whatley 45444444.
For the fall.
Now, with marriages, these the the clue is is that we'll play this to you now and you can guess who it is at the end of the show, in the Hatch match and dispatch segment, we do it all the time and if you don't know, it works and you knew that's how it works. So there you go. That's celebrity that said this.
It was a really genuine person and that, to me meant more than anything else in the world.
Yeah, yeah.
Ohh lovely.
That only, yeah. So we'll find out who that is at the end of the show.
In the news on the 14th of February 2005, we have the assassination of Rafik Hariri. The Lebanese well, former Lebanese Prime Minister, he's assassinated in Beirut, leading to widespread protests and political upheaval in Lebanon.
M.
Yes, Sir.
It was an explosion.
Hmm.
He was assassinated by an explosion in Beirut and it was a turning point in Lebanese politics and had a significant regional and international set of ramifications.
On the 14th of February, 2000 and. Five, a massive bomb blew up the motorcade of Rafik Al Hariri, the former Prime Minister who was campaigning for re election. He killed her RiRi and 21 others, one of the first to reach him was Ferrari's long serving bodyguard. Mohammed Diah, who wants justice.
Was your Modesto and you?
To start with.
1.
I couldn't tell if it was him from his face.
So.
He saw.
I was really some of the guys talking to check his face, his back or his hair to see if it was him, but I could only tell it was him from his wedding ring.
He was Lebanon's Prime Minister for two terms for 92 to 98 and 2000 and 2004 and he really was a pivotal figure in the efforts to rebuild Beirut after the Lebanese Civil War, which went from 75 to 1990. He helped them transition from war to stability, and that made him a very respected figure internationally.
He opposed Syria's occupation of Lebanon, which began during the Civil War. So and continued afterwards and just months before his death, they said that he was campaigning for reelection. But just months before his death, he actually resigned as Prime Minister in protest against Syrian backed policies, including a controversial constitutional amendment extending the term of Pro Syrian President Emil Lahoud.
Hmm.
He was all Sir, however, so he did do a lot for economic reform and infrastructure, but there was some accusations around core.
Hmm.
Option due to him having shares in the company that was responsible for a lot of the development and reconstruction of the Central District. There was also accusations of embezzlement and that he allowed kickbacks from public spending to enrich other government figures, allegedly.
I mean, I mean, I don't wanna kind of make too much light of this, but if you living in Beirut. You know, construction is pretty big business. They tend to have to build a lot of. Things back so.
Hmm yeah.
Thank you. It makes sense that you would have shares in construction over there if you were in the business of of being a shareholder on the 14th of February, though 2005, a 1800 kilogramme truck bomb detonates near their motorcade. It massive, it's going on the sea front on Beirut's I was like this, this sort of, you know, promenade it would would you call it a promenade? I guess you would except that it's got cars on it, not people. So you wouldn't call it a prominent, so it's.
It's a road near some water.
Driving across the road in the bloody water.
Near village near the beach.
It's not funny. And then and then the explosion kills him in 21 others. Like the truck pulls up alongside and boom inches over 200 people as well. It also like made a mess of buildings and infrastructure around. You can imagine the road was gone.
Yeah.
A lot of shop fronts. Buildings destroyed as well and obviously incredibly shocking because he was such a unifying figure in a big proponent of that post civil war reconstruction.
Hmm.
Yeah. And after his death, there were several other bombings and assassinations against minor anti Syrian. Figures as well. Syria was widely suspected of orchestrating the assassination due to his opposition to its influence in Lebanon U. Syrian President actually denied involvement but did face a lot of significant international criticism. There were massive protests as well, which was which became known as the seed of revolution, with demonstrators calling for an end to Syrian influence in Lebanon and under intense domestic and international pressure.
Hmm.
Syria actually withdraw its military forces in Lebanon in April 2000 and. Five, ending nearly 30 years of occupation.
So and I wonder if some of the tension that came out of this caused that and if so, ohh my God, there's probably they'd be all kinds of theories and conspiracies. And what not? The UN did launch an investigation obviously into that assassination, which was led by German prosecutor Detlev Mail. And in 2009, the special Tribunal for Lebanon was established to prosecute those responsible. So they found out who. Did it.
Hmm.
And they brought them to justice. In 2020, the STL convicted a Hezbollah operative by the name of Salim Ayash in absentia for his role in the assassination. However, Hezbollah and Syria's broader involvement is still a bit of a point of contention. It's like, did they or didn't they? Is there is? A lot of conjecture around who did it. And possibly the motivation for it as well. When you see an outcome like Syria, withdrawing a few months later, it does raise speculation.
Hmm.
But I mean, that's speculation from someone who is incredibly illl researched into this and illinformed, but it's like that's interesting. Hmm. Is it not? You know what else is interesting? Heists. Heists much more interesting than talking about politics over in that part of the world.
Hmm. Yes.
Because I always tend to talk myself into a hole and I feel like a heist is a safe place. Except ohh ****, the IRA are responsible for this One South.
It's.
That's good, isn't it?
Ohh do we have to say allegedly?
Alright, allegedly.
Maybe.
Well, there's.
So there was. This bank robbery in it was the northern bank robbery in the UK, Big Bank. And there was this big, significant, audacious heist. And that happened in December in 2004, right? No.
The swimmer on summer programming. So we weren't paying attention.
Well, when the heist happened? No. Millions of EUR millions of EUR were stolen and seized from this highest, and then they recovered it. Obviously this time 20 years ago, but here's what happened.
Precise in its planning. Daring in its execution and staggering in its scale, this was a bank robbery, which is an added the gang behind it in excess of £20 million sterling, making it wonderfully smooth of heists ever.
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Turn. Good.
Certainly the last few years we have had a number of organised crime gangs working here in Northern Ireland who have targeted banks, bank officials, other financial institutions who have not had a connection. West paramilitary groups, but equally we have had a number of paramilitary groups who have specialised in a House takeovers and the types of crime.
The.
It happened at the northern bank.
Far beyond the police investigation. The bank itself will also have serious questions to answer. How did it allow an excess of £20 million sterling to be stored in the one place? How could such a vast sum of money be moved without triggering alarms far beyond its Belfast branch? And primarily how does 8 and other banks protect its officials and their families from enduring similar ordeals in the future? Declan Mcbennett, Archie News, Belfast.
Thank you, Declan. Uh it £27 million in sterling.
Hmm.
They took it and it they they talked about the the paramilitary groups in there as well. So it turned out that it had something to do with the IRA.
When you say that I keep thinking tax. But that's the IRS isn't.
That's that's yes.
That's like, I'll just taking the money.
That's the dives the the Irish Republican Army, so.
Fine. What they do?
Tax right? But.
It.
And you know, we talk about highest being bumbling and generally a little bit of fun.
We liked it when it's yeah, when it's clumsy, bumbling people that maybe have silly plans.
This.
And they just or or they're drunk and they break in and steal it. And then wake up the next day.
Yeah, this one not so much.
But. No.
This is more like something out of a Tom Clancy novel or something.
Well, yeah. So it goes. That that the robbers and went to the the houses of. To people that really high up in the bank. So northern I think the northern. Bank it was, it was robbed.
Yes, that's right.
So the armed robbers posed as police officers and went to the home of two two different employees, Chris Ward and Kevin McMullen, and they held the family's hostage at gunpoint, saying you've gotta do what we say or, you know, will kill your family.
Hmm.
But tell your family that.
Right.
If.
So then they made those two staff members go to work as normal the next day and do their shifts, and nothing's suspicious here. And Justice Act all normal. But in the background they had to work together to remove vast sums of cash from the vaults. Yes, while they're at work in order to. Check their families to keep their families safe.
Right. So the the robbers didn't even set foot in. The bank.
No, they were getting the employees to remove the money and then I think they did a they did a test case and the test run went well.
Perform the task. Practise run.
Yeah.
They went Yep.
Well, that's that's smart.
OK. Great.
Like you've gotta do a dry run. I mean, I think half of the reason why a lot of these other heists weren't as.
Yes, Princess concepts.
Successful is because they didn't do that.
No precious concept, no pock.
Yeah, exactly.
You've gotta see if it's going to work.
The park has proved successful. We got. What did they get? Not that I just take like ohh okay.
Ohh.
A million Kumail.
Just a cool man.
They didn't. Wasn't like just go to the stationary cupboard and take some stationary.
No, no, I just didn't.
You'd see how you go there, and then we'll move on to the vault. If we're successful, supply baby steps now. They just still were straight in.
No one really is fine.
Took 1,000,000 bucks.
No, alarms were not. I think they would assess. The alarms more than ever.
Yes, it's like now do that 26 more times, OK.
See.
Yes.
And they then had to not only take the money out, but help them load the crates of money into a waiting van in the sun. Straight this was the biggest robbery at the time in British criminal history.
How are you doing that?
Took the other thing.
How are you doing that? How are you taking those bags of money out of the vault and into a van whilst not trying to raise the suspicion of the coworkers?
And this and the other thing that was pretty interesting is this is Christmas lead up to Christmas.
Hmm.
So this was, I think the night that this happened was. Like the biggest. Christmas shopping night of the year and next.
So then all the stalls of bringing their money to the northern bank to put away the takings for the day.
But also next to the bank is some big shop where they do Christmas markets. So it was packed with people. There were people everywhere and I think the cops. Even drove past and saw them loading money. Into the van. But just thought they're just doing banks, bank stuff, whatever.
What's the stock? They work. Yeah. Thanks. We'll do. We'll continue doing cop stuff.
Sure.
They'll continue doing bank stuff and never the twain shall.
You doing your? Whatever. Merry, Merry Christmas.
Meet. Yes.
They just thought it was business as usual and so it was only when the gang had made their escape safely with the money that they let the families. Go and I think they released them into the woods somewhere or something like that.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
And then one of the family members ran from the woods back into the city and and went and told the police what had happened and what had happened.
Hmm.
And then what had happened was that they took £26.5 million, including 10 million in Uncirculated Northern Irish Bank notes, which were harder for them to launder.
Yes.
So that's a pain. So, like less than half, but still is a significant.
3.
So, but the rest of it was sterling and other denominations, so that was a bit easier for them to use internationally. And the BBC said that early in the case, they had suggested that the IRA was likely involved. Obviously, the statement that we heard in that grab was very, very early on, but then a few days later, they're like thinking of the Ras probably involved in this robbery. CBS said that it was a view shared by the British and Irish Government and all other parties in both parts of one. They're like, it's definitely the IRA. This got the IRA written all over it, yes.
Full life stinks of Iraq because they've done something similar at well. Allegedly in May 2004 was an A retail store.
Hmm.
Yeah, they took hostages. Is very. Similar modus operandi.
Yes, like in that was successful, that Pock worked $8 million for that one.
Hmm.
That poke worked.
That's flicks.
Move on to to to Bata, yeah.
Let's go down to 26 minute. Ohh, we forgot that we have to launder that uncirculated money. That's a disappointing. By February 2005, a lot of tension surrounding the robbery in the country was there, and suspicions of that involvement of the IRA had started to grow in the UK and Irish governments were like it's definitely them. It's them. They're like, it's not us. They're like it. You did it. You guys did. So they get the fast forwarded the 17th, 7 people are arrested in over £2,000,000, including $60,000 in Northern Bank notes are recovered during the raids. That's not a lot compared to how much they had in the Cork and Dublin areas.
Hmm.
As part of you know, just can't say cork without using an Irish cork and in County Cork.
No, I mean I've noticed.
So yeah, it's it wasn't officially confirmed that they were related to that robbery though, but that was done as part of the investigations and the IRA was said to be behind, but the actual money laundering yet.
The. Side of it, yes. Three men were arrested at Houston Station Dublin and one of them, Don Bulman, was alleged to have been carrying €94,000, or £62,000. This makes me laugh in a box of Daz washing powder.
Yes, the money.
So he was literally laundering.
It's.
All reckon he sees an easy on the latter.
Is that a joke? Did he do that as a joke?
For easy life.
It's like I'm gonna get caught, so I'll. Just make it for me.
Might as well have some fun with it and.
What are you doing? I'm just laundry.
Ohh bring the money.
No ****.
Financial advisor Ted Cunningham and his wife were arrested at their house in Farron in county court after £2.3 million was discovered hidden in compost hidden in a pile. Of.
It's so I said no before I was incorrect.
Yet yet to be laundered.
I stand. Effective.
Another man was arrested after being caught burning Sterling Bank notes in his back garden.
That's our Richie was. He's like, right, this guy next door. He's started Richie sitting money on fire. What's going on there?
Another man handed in 175,000 lbs. And soon afterwards, three other businessmen handed in 225,000 lbs. All four of them, said Cunningham, and asked them to look after the money. So Cunningham was the financial. As a who had it in the pile of. Poo.
Yes.
So counting him was behind it all along, he was connected.
Well, he was there. He was the launderer.
He was the hedge, the head washer bravura.
Head launderer. I'm not sure what that I'm not sure what that title is like. Officially the head launderer, he was the one orchestrating all the money laundering and he was helping them by investing in property.
Hmm.
And what not? But in the same month they found £100,000 was a pounds or dollars dollars.
Hmm.
Pounds doesn't really matter at this.
Ohh no in the same month they found about 100 grand in the toilet of the police athletic associations in New Forge Country Club.
Point does it. But and then they later confirmed that it was from the the highest, but they stashed it there to distract us detectives investigating the robbery and divert attention from elsewhere.
And be like ohh don't know have you?
So the police, the F, the athletic.
Checked out your bloody Country Club.
Police didn't actually do it.
Nice, she said.
It's just a diversion.
The Country Club at the time and like what's in the bag? They're like, I don't know. Is that your bag? No, it's my bag.
We're cops.
We should know what to do when it is an unattended bag somewhere. So Cunningham, our head laundry, he was convicted in 2009 of money laundering, which is good cause he was watching that, no.
Yes.
Money. Loan dreams, but not not the heist, just the laundry.
And he had his he actually had that conviction cost in 2012. He was convicted at a retrial, though in 2014 so like he did it ohh, I think we might have been wrong. Three years later, they're like we might have wrong. Then, two years after that, they like, no, we were definitely right.
This is where it gets interesting though.
It's confusing soon.
Chris Ward said Chris was one of the two head bank guys whose family was taken hostage, the bank official said. The one that was.
Yeah.
Taking the money under duress to save his family, he was arrested in November 2005 and charged with robbery.
Yeah. Hmm. Hmm.
The prosecution offered no evidence at trial.
So let him go list a sweet too.
And he was released. So, are they saying that he might have been in on it?
It's and. Well, what was the foundation of them arresting him? If there was number evidence in the first place.
What? It. Just because he was taking the money out. To the car and.
Where's the evidence that he?
What?
I mean, he did. Technically yes, I guess. But he was coerced because they're threatening to kill his family. But were they? Is he part of the RA as well?
Is he part of it? Is enormous.
I mean, I'm just speculating. I don't know the facts.
Ohh I don't either.
I only know what's been presented in front of Maine at the point of.
Ohh I just like the guy. That had the money in the box of Daz washing powder.
Well, I think that's fun. I mean that. That laundry powder thing is the living personification of the Irish joke, isn't it? I think I'm a bit too shook for this one.
Ohh yeah, well I I thought that the story the back story was a different story again.
From a technology standpoint?
So I'm probably just confused to be honest.
Hmm.
It's a lie, but let's get into it. Let's get into the back story. Let's find out all about it, because on the 14th of February 2000 and. 5.
Valentine's Day.
Some romantic YouTube is founded. And then obviously later. Launched that year. Me revolutionising the way that we can choose and share video content, and it's become one of the most influential platforms really in the history of the Internet history of the information superhighway.
Yes.
Yeah.
Funniest time videos 24/7. Yeah. And so it was. Well, it was a big vehicle on it.
Was.
A big rig on the information superhighway.
It was a Pantech.
Yes, three former employees of PayPal founded YouTube, which says a lot. Really Chad Hurley, designer who created the logo and branding. Not only did 10.
He must have done more than that. You wouldn't be. You wouldn't be like a founder just for.
We'll split it three ways.
Choosing a font.
What are you going to do, Chad?
Ohh, I'll do the Lugo.
I'll make you logo.
Ohh yeah.
Do it in Canberra. Ohh, it's Steve Chen, a computer engineer who contributed to the technical development.
Hi Tim, this pints.
So I think he should be getting the biggest cut of the cash because he's the one that's doing it technically.
Hmm.
And then and then Jared Kareem, who's a software engineer who conceptualised the idea of sharing videos online. So you know, I feel like they're probably getting like 40% each and then maybe give Chad 20 for the logo, 20%.
That sounds.
I think that's more than generate.
I think so too. According to stories and I think this is the story that you heard the the trigger for this was that the founders were frustrated by the difficulty of sharing videos online in the early 2000s.
That's right. Yes, this is the story. This is the official at has been official for Eon's story.
And. No centralised platforms for uploading, sharing and streaming, and they developed it off the back of a dinner party because. They I think they took some video at a dinner party and wanted to wanted to share it after the part, they had nowhere to to put their dinner party videos.
Yes. Yes, I think that they they may have been discussing if they could have found a a better way to access the footage of Janet Jackson showing her ****** at last year's Superbowl, which was another sort of thing that, but that at the end, but that even as an extension of the dinner party story, I was like, well.
What a conundrum. That's what I had heard. That's why I had heard that no one could find that video. After ****** case.
Yeah, that's probably what happened at the Denny's hiding.
Without talking about the ******.
Stuff. Obviously, United is a high level 1 and then there's like, here's what actually happened. So yes, there was still a dinner party.
Ohh cause if you say. It was because you were talking about her ******. Then you dirty. So let's talk about you taking videos, sharing videos of *******.
Share being videos, sharing videos, sharing videos PR guys are like that's the story. The official PR story. Hmm, the office. Cool public relations story. Or so we thought.
Uh, so this was bro. Well rehearsed as we started working with the PR agency and we said, well, we were having a dinner party and my place in San Francisco, which I didn't have. And and we were, we were having dinner. We were having wine and everybody was taking. They were taking photos. They were taking videos and next day they share photos. But there was there was an option. There wasn't a product out there to share the videos, so therefore we decided to come up with the option to share videos for people that were taking photos and videos. That didn't have party never happened. You know well the.
Real wow.
So.
We were trained to do this and then only years later there was a billion dollar lawsuit by Viacom by came in for copyright violation with YouTube and under oath. You can't tell the fictitious story anymore. You had to and that was the first time the real true story about how YouTube came out.
What under oath?
So.
So.
So it's all well and good to completely deceive her. And then they put him under oath. And they actually told the real story.
You have to go on. Read the the the hand side of the court.
Ohh I think I thought, I think I have the energy or tenacity for.
Cool green thing to find the real story.
At but they had mentioned that there were two other specific events off the back of the dinner party. So the Janet Jackson thing, which is the thing that I thought was one of them, the ****** gate thing.
Yes, that's what I thought. Yeah. And then there was also a reference to the tsunami in late 2000. Four, where they mentioned that the video coverage wasn't easily accessible.
Well, online.
For that's and that's interesting. Cause we discussed that as well when we were talking about the tsunami, how we didn't kind of really comprehend the magnitude of that disaster because we hadn't really seen the footage until much later.
Hmm.
Yeah. Yeah. And you only saw those two or three different bits of footage that were repaid over and over again at the time?
Yes, it's exam. Exactly.
So I think I think actually the real. Story is more around a video version of the online dating site. Hot or not?
Of course, of course it is. It's it's a couple of incell geeks.
Ohh cancel.
You know, up there in Silicon Valley with all the brains in the world. World, but still no game and can't talk to females. So what they do is they get all bitter and twisted and rate them, whether they're hot or not online.
Yeah, well, more online dating, but.
No, it's the same as.
But with that hot or not visual component I guess.
Is this not the same thing that inspired Facebook? It is.
Yes.
It is.
Yes, that was rating rating.
Ohh.
How women looked this one was more, I think it had a dating element, though not just rating, rating and Dad. Watching. I think who fun day, yes, said a warm a hot dog warmed.
You know what they they cause all NATO, Wendy's, hot dog and a lie down.
That's what they need, yeah, yes.
By a rod. Yes. And I so with the dating, the dating idea, I think they even posted on Craigslist asking. Is there attractive women to upload videos of themselves to YouTube in exchange for $100?
Might. Ohh my God.
But they didn't get enough dating videos, so that's when they shifted. Gears. They shifted the goal posts.
Then I go on Craigslist. They probably just got a whole bunch of photos of. Penises sent to them honest.
The.
They then decided to accept uploades of any videos.
Ohh God help us all.
We were looking at all the dating sites out there that were just, but it was just just just photo dating. You hear? This is me, this is what I look like. This is my age I'm looking for, but they were always photos and so we. Thought wow, there's gotta be something here. If you could just put videos instead of phone your kids. So I'm supposed to be this dating video site? We launched the service a week, went by, zero videos were uploaded under the service and if we change our mind, they said, you know, before giving up, let's. Just. Open it up completely to any any video.
I don't even know if I mean, I don't even know what's true anymore.
Don't know what to believe anymore.
And these guys talk. That's a bit of a sliding doors moment, though, because they could have hung it up, couldn't they really?
Hmm they did.
But they pivoted. They pivoted.
They did, and allowed even years.
Yeah, they were like, why don't we actually? 3 instead of justice slicing the bun, why don't we insert a hot metal rod into the centre of the bun? Exactly.
Yes, and add some cheese. Perfect. Perfect. And the the end goal was a simple user friendly platform where anyone could upload, view and share videos. So later this month, later in February 2. 25 they activate the www.youtube.com and the first video is uploaded on the 23rd of April 2005, titled Me at the zoo created by cofounder. I didn't know me at the zoo was one of the cofounders, Jawed Kareem.
Yeah. Yeah.
That yes, dawid. Yes, he went to the zoo.
This is when he went to the San.
Diego Zoo and he documented it for all of us to enjoy in the comfort of it. Well, probably took a little while to buffer. Ohh yeah, maybe half a day later you could have watched the very short clip. Of Maine at the zoo.
You.
Alright, so here we are.
One of the elephants.
Get the blame.
Ohh cool thing about these guys.
Expect is that.
They have really, really, really long. Hey, you got.
Tom funds, and that's cool that.
Where are they?
You're ohh the last. Play music from and no.
You were right.
And that's pretty much all there is to say.
Ohh.
There you go.
That's pretty much all there is to say.
It. That's the video me at the zoo, the first ever YouTube video.
Hmm.
Yes. And and ever since, we've had plenty of. People just narrating their life.
Up on YouTube.
Ohh, haven't we ever hung eyes? Ohh God, here we go.
Send.
If any YouTube video starts over. Hi, guys. It's this late here. We're in for a treat. Here.
The same day that me at the zoo is uploaded, they launched the pub. Beta or is it beta?
Hmm.
Ohh I don't know, I never know.
Depends on what side of the hemisphere you've more hemisphere from mother to the side of it.
Spider, I think they say beta in tech. I think if you're a techie, it's beta, so launch the public beta by November.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah. With that, yeah.
We have a Nike ad featuring Ronaldo becoming the first video to reach 1,000,000 total views.
Is that runs a Nike commercial.
Think they just wanted to see his haircut, to be honest.
Maybe it was the World Cup. Had how mean it was still pretty hot property you.
Know still, Arnaldo. Hey.
The world game. Yeah, it's certainly got international appeal.
You.
And the reason it was because it wasn't the first video site. Vimeo was already out there.
That's right. And look, I would argue in in many ways there's a. Lot of cool. Or there's there's cooler functionality for content creators or collaborators on Vimeo, because you can you can lockdown.
Private not.
You comments. You can get people to actually work on videos and provide notes and stuff as you go.
But the the reason this was so innovative, though, was because it was easy.
Along but anyway.
You didn't have to be a coder or attacking if you could just upload and share your videos, anybody could do it so.
Right.
Yeah.
Easy and it started to democratise content creation and content consumption, where all bloggers, we're all video creators.
Hmm.
We're all content creators and.
Yep, everybody has a story.
Apparently you could stream directly from the web as well. Before this you had to download the files and we know what that was like on that.
Yeah, I think I think that was that was definitely the thing was like obviously the quality would vary, but it was being able to stream, which is that's the game changer.
Like 7 days to download. One minute. Yeah, yeah. Every time there was a social element as well because. You could comment, you could like you could share. There was that sense of community.
Hmm.
And even the first time. Anyone not just big corporations with big budgets and and video cameras, anyone could.
Well, this is like, yeah, I mean we're the generation that grew up with movies like pump up the volume and Wayne's World.
Create and share.
Hmm.
And you could do Wayne's World it yourself. You could be Wayne, you could.
We could put your funny home videos straight up there. You didn't have to send your VHS into channel 9 or whatever channel it was on.
Exactly.
Yep, Yep.
It.
You just put it. Straight up there for everyone to laugh at. Remember that day we were lying in bed and we discovered you. Two, and we watched. Probably I'm going to say about 4.5 hours of people falling down escalators.
Yeah, that's right. Don't worry everyone, we didn't upload anything. We just watched stuff.
It was just people falling and no one was hurt. No one was. Let's just put that out there. But it's just, it's just people.
Ohh I I disagree with that.
People having escalated mishaps and we would just captivated, we're just like, what is this?
I think some people were Hurst. Hmm. There's like thousands of videos on that platform of people falling down escalators, thousands, thousands.
This is incredible. Just. So we get to December 15, 2005.
Yeah.
It's officially launched, so we've gone from beta to. Life.
Uh huh.
I don't know what's what's what's what comes after beta real life YouTube.
But.
I don't know gamma.
It's receiving 8 million views a day.
Yeah.
And clips at the time were limited to 100 megabytes.
And that since 2005.
Yeah.
But yeah, and then I think some of them only 30 seconds. So so you get like lots of viral. That's what viral stuff happened pretty much organically and straight away on there and and and the problem was I think in a lot of ways was it was the Wild West.
Hmm.
A.
Yes.
It wasn't all that well regulated, so there was lots of criticism early on for them, hosting thousands of hours, hundreds of thousands of hours, maybe even millions of hours of copyrighted content without any permission, TV shows, movies, music, videos, all of this stuff without authorisation.
What?
People uploading movies at one point before they were released, yeah.
And then the companies came on board. Though the companies like, hey, you can't do this and this is where I think the Napster case really is ground breaking because even though that was an audio thing, it does set the course for for how these things are done from here on in and and as a consequence you know.
Hmm.
Said the parameters square.
YouTube profiting from stolen intellectual property is bad, cannot deny the fact that they have a captive audience. So how do we harness that, not punish them and get some kind of content identification system happening? And that's what we've got now. That's what we do now. So you know and and also, I think sparked a lot of controversy about videos that are harmful. It's still does like there are still videos that you could consider well and truly harmful on there. You look at what happens with the love of these vloggers and bloggers, but that that conversation happened. Early on and it's kind of been happening for the duration of the platforms existence.
Hmm. We get to 2006 and Google announced that they've acquired YouTube for $1.65 billion in Google stock.
Yeah.
This deals finalised on November the 13th, 2006. That's when we started to see the broadcast yourself. Slogan coming out and major growth over the years and they introduced a lot of innovative stuff in this time. Monetisation was probably the biggie.
Yeah, and that's that's the thing. There are still people, and there's a lot of people who. Like I'm gonna start it, I'm gonna study YouTube channel and I'm gonna quit my job. I'm gonna be the next Logan poll.
What do you have to hit to be monetised? I saw someone celebrating. They were celebrating a certain number of followers on YouTube over on Instagram, and they made a comment of.
It's really it's really conditional, yeah.
Now I get paid when you watch my stuffs.
Well, that's yes, but there are caveats as well. So yeah, you need 1000 subscribers. You need to get that 1000 subscribers.
2000.
Within a year.
Yep.
Me. You also need an X amount of watch hours or time spent watching in order to achieve that.
Hmm.
So it's like, you know, 1000 subscribers is kind of the magic number, but if it doesn't happen in that time and you don't meet the. Criteria you still not going to get monetised. There's a lot of red tape around that. It's not that.
Simple, but it was quite ground breaking for one of these platforms where you could create content, but you could also the. And get money for that.
People have become millionaires from this channel.
Advertising revenue as well through through the platform, HMM.
It is made people.
Uh. Red, which I think is premium these days where you pay a subscription so that you don't have to watch.
Not to watch the ads.
The ads, which is pretty clever as well.
Yes, but almost do that, but I don't spend enough time. The only time I spend on YouTube is to do research for the show.
Ohh my I think you get offline access as well as the exclusive content and over the years they also upped the quality of the video. We had HD followed by 4K8K.
Hmm.
Live TV streaming as well.
Yep.
Multi Language audio tracks gaming. And they did. They did really focus in on the content moderation. And policies as well.
So they had to say there's a lot of bots on there as well.
Around the guidelines, the copyright protection, but also policies against things like hate speech, harassment and misinformation too.
Yeah, which is good. I mean, I dabbled in that.
Ohh well.
I got done like cause I was doing film reviews and I was using trailers.
I used to get the strikes and you'd. Have to go. Is it worth me arguing this? Because if you lost what happened, did you lose your page or something?
Ohh, you'd lose everything and they you know they potentially they.
So you'd have to really.
Well, they potentially sue you and take money for you from you. So yeah, needed to really understand the the implications of using content. Under the guise of Fair use, which is the same with any media or any platform.
Hmm.
But my argument was always OK people make trailers of films in order to entice people to watch films, and people distribute those film trailers to TV networks. And what not to show on their programmes.
Hmm.
What's the difference? And the answer is none really, except for the fact that probably nobody's watching my ****. But it's it's the same thing.
But it's automated.
Ohh.
It's an automated system and I think it's it's similar with Facebook as well.
Yeah.
When you've got someone infringing your copy. Ohh yes, to try and take action against it. Or if you're the one that has the action. Against you because.
I just think it's hilarious. Like.
It's all automated and bought. It is such a difficult long winded process from either end and that it's all automated so you're not even connecting with a human and saying this is what's happening.
So navigate.
Yeah.
Can you step in and help? It's just this.
Yeah.
This constant back and forth of ohh my God darling and too hard. This.
Is just a bit, but then also The funny thing about all of that is, is there's there is all these moderation policies and bots doing that and trying to keep it clean and stuff like that. No, no, with with. With some of the other social media platforms like, there's been so many times that I've had messages of people go ohh, I've been hacked. If you get a friend request from me, don't answer it. And it's like after all the money that's spent and all the rigour that is apparently placed around protecting intellectual property and copyright. But the the users, the people who are the backbone of this platform, the people that actually are keeping this alive and actually are the audience for the content, their personal privacy in their profiles don't mean anything to you.
Hmm. Full.
Like you'll protect those guys, but you won't protect, you know. Joe blogs, who sitting in pig's knuckles somewhere with a profile and a picture that somebody else has stolen. And their name? And then is sending our friend request on their behalf. He won't do anything about that, but you'll be onto the copyright automatically within minutes of it being posted.
Ohh.
Well, because they'd be sued otherwise.
That's why.
Well, yes, of course. But you know, rather than it's just gross makes me sad.
Yeah. Ohh yeah, as of last month YouTube had more than 2.7 billion monthly active users, who collectively watched more than 1 billion hours of videos every day, felling hours every day.
One that 1 billion.
Yeah, yeah.
I think Ohh 2019 we had more than 500 hours of content uploaded per minute.
Google.
Think about the infrastructure to house all of that data in that content, like how big must the the servers, that if I feel like it's almost like it would need to be an entire planet to hold all of that because like, it's like time.
Hmm, I don't remember.
Which is a a concept and a commodity. But like, there's so much of that time, like the volume of time is astronomical.
Hmm. And.
It's beyond comprehension. It's like longer than millions of people's lifetimes that are sitting just there and it's like, how do you house that?
Hmm.
How do you?
Where do you keep that?
Over 14 billion. Videos on YouTube as of a couple of years ago.
That's crazy.
Huh.
Well, let's video, which apparently killed the radio star.
Yes.
But what's happening in the world of music?
We still had the radio styles. We still have the charts here in Australia, same as last week and nearly fetched Tim McGraw over and over.
Put the phone.
Think about it, game.
It hurts so bad cause it's all in my think about.
Happy.
Same number one over in the UK is last week. Like toy soldiers, Eminem.
It used to be a time which you could.
Just say a.
0.
K That's the world.
Rhyme and wouldn't have to worry about wanting your people dying.
Hmm.
Ohh I just got him up mate. I'm just like, where does he finish the sentence?
Yeah, that was very short, wasn't it?
That'll dude, that's good.
That'll do. And we've had a little bit of movement over in the US charts top five shuffled around a little bit and a new entry.
Ohh this is well, this is a couple of new entries I think. No, there's only one new. No, there's two new entries. Ohh look you listen. You figure it out. Amazing.
Try anybody stand. But everybody, put your hands up. Let's party everybody bouncing me to champagne and burn a little green. Green this hot disco inferno. Let's go then. Now I can book a. Was is that we do make a move like full while. Up in. The club. This is how we do. Nobody goes like this so. So what you love this is how. We make the movement that full while we left in the middle of this is nobody. We would like you to.
Read my ****. Ohh no Charlie. Wanna watch beside me my shampoo?
No.
Say only let's be sunshine. Sky someone up there? Well, flight.
2.
Let me see.
You want to stay. Stop. Everybody get.
One I.
Well, you should let me love you. Let me be the one to give you everything you want. Any a baby? Good love and Princess.
Ohh, I know you're gonna recap and it's safe, but I just had a thought. I was listening to Blvd. Of broken dreams. Well, by Green Day was in there and I'm like, I can't believe. I can't believe it's been 20 years since that song came out, and I know we spoke a bit about the song. I think that's one of those songs that I think, you know, I was looking. You look at toy soldiers using Martika and.
Surely Blvd.
Of broken dreams is just begging for some kind of hip hop sampling resurgence.
Ohh.
I mean, it's a very powerful song that could just be only made it even more powerful if it had, like, ludicrous coming in and doing something on this or something. I don't know. Yeah.
And walking alone somewhere or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, potentially.
Yeah, maybe not that, but.
Mean yes.
But something to that effect anyway. Carry on.
You're right, there is actually 2 entries. I have fact checked myself. I thought we'd talked. That one of them already, but we didn't. So #5 new entry, disco Inferno $0.50 number 4.
Yes.
How we do the game featuring 50?
Which we'd spoken about because he's album comes.
Cent that was 5th. With spoke about the games album.
Yes, now that a calendar charts and I didn't recognise fifty's voice in that at first.
So that's also so two $0.50. No you didn't.
But when you put the two of.
Isn't it?
Them. Together you get a dollar.
Yeah, you do.
Good.
Yeah.
#3 Boulevard of Broken dreams. Green Day, 212 steps Sierra and Mario still at #1. Let love.
Ah, OK, Mario. I feel like he's he's under threat. Mario with what's coming through like you've got a really solid rock song and then you've got fitty cent there and hmm, like you, you know, it's yours to lose.
$0.50.
Hmm.
Mario, the number one spot, you can only go down from there, pal.
Yes. Can you give us some a bit? More disco inferno.
And alright, yeah.
Because everybody's stand up. Everybody put your hands up. Let's party everybody bouncing me to champagne. They're gonna little green this hot. Disco inferno. Let's go then. Now I can book a pro.
I feel like it's too late. Back to be a full blown inferno. But I'm liking it like I'm kinda, you know, pretty fly for a white guy.
Like this guy? Is just on my. This is on my.
But you.
Know, yeah.
Old school workout as well. I don't mind doing weights to this song.
It's it's got a slow kind of yeah, bump and grind to it.
It's it does. Yeah, it's from the second studio album from 50 called.
Is it like people like cringing when they hear me say, bump and grind?
Yes, they are. From the second studio album, the Massacre. Not as commercially huge as candy shop or in the club, but still a bit of a fan favourite.
The fan favourite, right? Yeah.
This one. And he said that he made the song. It's very formulaic and he designed it and when you think about it in the club as well, it's got the the catchy Hawks, the memorable Bates. It's got the lyrics hurdle.
Wait.
Little bit rescue but also you know they. Stick in your mind. You learn them, you know them.
Ohh, I heard him talking about burning some greenery.
Yes.
And I was like ohh. That's not some it's the one we goes.
I don't know if that was in your bit, but it's like little mumma showed me how you do it. Shake, shake, shake that ***, girl.
No, I didn't ask that.
You didn't play that bit. OK, well, it does say there's a there's. Long discussion about shaking one's ****.
Ohh it's getting get some bums. They like their bottoms, they do the hip hop guys, they.
And. Do and. It was censored, particularly the video clip.
Hmm.
If you haven't seen it, it's a work of art is a lot of buts.
Ohh, that particularly want to be tucking into a nice crumpet at breakfast on a Saturday morning and seeing bums all over the screen.
It's very it's very. It's a very it's a very thoughts heavy, a very bought heavy video.
Video yes.
Clips.
There's lots of women in G. Strings shaking. Shaking that ***, girl.
Yes.
Yeah. So of course, obviously with the release of YouTube and and we're talking, people can comment and share and this is so in a bit of a ground breaking I. Had to go to the comments of disco Inferno.
Ohh so the the YouTube comments.
So some of the comments alright, we'll start with Haggai and Jamaica #18.
Uh huh. Uh huh.
Back when you had to stay up after 12:00 AM to watch this video on. BT that's right. Ha ha ha. Good times.
Because I mean, it can't play that in prime time. It's too rude, too raunchy.
Tea at Dad's with McCall. The cameraman. So this is from the cameraman's point of view. The cameraman colon, while it was hard to record the clip with just one hand.
That that just. The really illustrates it terrible. Absolutely terrible visual in my mind that I'm pretty sure that production would not have gone ahead if that was the case. Uh. Can I read 1?
Yes you can.
Let's look King king.
Pick up in car.
King kalamang. This brings me back to the good old days, when I'd sneak downstairs at 3:00 AM to watch BT uncut with the TV on mute. So my grandmother wouldn't catch me good times. So he's watching music videos without listening the music, just to perv on the.
You didn't need it. You didn't need to hear this song in this case, no.
Clearly, I mean, maybe he needs a bit of just background on beyonc� to cover up whatever he's up to it.
Ohh.
3:00 AM. While he's watching BT and cut with the volume down.
But anyway, Cayenne 2549, my life completely changed when I first saw this music video at the age. Of 10. Ohh.
Wow. At the age of 10, Ross OK.
Low. Low.
Kayla Vaughn at Kaylee Vaughn when booties were 83% real LOL.
I love it.
The I couldn't put the username for this one. It's too offensive.
Ohh really?
But they said when 50 says 1. 2-3 let's go. It means that you have 3 seconds to look for the remote. Turn off the TV and get out of the living room before your parents catch you.
Yeah, uh, snow blind. Ohh 8 I love this. This was not the disco inferno I was looking for. Burn, baby. Burn the but we have some music news as well.
We do.
Big music news. It's like the music industry's night of nights.
Not if not.
Okay.
The 47th Annual Grammy Awards.
Yes. On the 13th of February, we had Ray Charles and Norah Jones winning record of the year.
Hmm.
For here we go again and Maroon 5 named best new artist, but a big nominee on the knives, Kanye said.
Ohh yes yes.
Album the college drop out the most nominations for any artists.
Yes, he won three. I think he won three, but he got beaten by Maroon 5 for the best new artist.
Hmm.
1st and I think the other one was that he lost to Ray Charles for album of the Year and Charles had Ray Charles had just passed away very recently, right? So I think we spoke about that as well and he was given the award for these record genius loves Company and they just reckon that was just sentimentality or misplaced allegiance.
Hmm.
So Kanye, no stranger to be injustice, that award ceremony.
No.
But he still had his say it this one.
Right now. Is my time and my moment thanks to the fans. Thanks to the accident, thanks to God. Thanks to Rockefeller, Jay Z, Dame Dash G My mother rhyme fest, everyone that's helped me, and I plan I I plan to celebrate. I plan to celebrate and scream and pop champagne every chance I get because I'm at the Grammys, baby.
Woohoo spring break. What? Yeah, obviously he's a strange cat. I mean, we know this.
Interesting that he thanked the accident. So that's obviously the accident where he had his jaw wired shut.
My shot.
That changed the way in which he he sang interesting that he acknowledged that.
Ohh it's just a piece of pop culture. History now, isn't it?
Hmm. Is.
If that was back when everyone loved Kanye as opposed to now, wherever on seems to hate Kanye.
It is. Hmm.
Kanye is always a performance unto himself, right?
Hmm.
But this performance. I think he's probably the the highlight of of the Grammys for that year, and it was. Melissa Etheridge had been diagnosed with breast cancer. I think in a year prior, maybe.
Hmm.
I'm not sure exactly how long that battle went for, but I know that I remember she was diagnosed with that. And then she had her first performance. Since taking a break for that and and it was for a tribute to Janice Joplin.
Hmm.
Uh, with the assistance of Joss Stone, and I think the most poignant thing about it is Etheridge comes on stage with the completely bald head and and and like it was just the look.
Yeah, that's rather than that.
But it was like she looked triumphant when she did it, and she she it was.
Yeah, really powerful.
It's a very powerful moment and a great song and the perfect couple like her and Josh Stone to pay tribute to Janice Joplin.
No.
I mean, could there be anything better? I think not.
I want you. To come. Ohh. God haha. Change.
Ohh.
Ohh now. Right day. Yeah, little on the dog. Have hard now. The there you know you got it. If you make you feel good.
We had a baby. Yes she does.
That is totally worth going away onto the YouTube and and looking up and having a look at cause it is a fantastic performance and I think the the thing about it was the and she did it in an interview with like Entertainment Weekly or something afterwards, she said. I wanted to show that I've been through hell and it's awful, but I'm not dying and I wanted to present myself as I'm back. I'm not weak and this is made me stronger and by golly, did it ever.
Hmm.
She's incredible, isn't she?
Small big screen. Not much happening on the small screen. Let's just go straight to the big screen. I think it was. It was this like the number one movie in the US box office or the Australian one. Which one was it? Or did it just?
Will the Australian we have the aviator? We've talked about that, haven't we?
Ohh that. Old chestnut. Yeah, that is the DiCaprio film. The aviator, yes, yeah.
I don't know what he did. In, but I'm sure we've talked about it. But a new number one at the US box office this week in 2005, Hitch.
I just asked if it was dying.
That's where I come in. Excuse me by asking if it was diet. She took it as you trying to imply. That you thought she was fat. Go get a red rose. Get a regular coke. Tell her she's everything. You never knew you always wanted any problems. Give me a. Call from Columbia pictures.
Ohh but you.
Did you ever hear this guy?
They called the date.
Doctor Evan myth. Urban. Really. Absolutely. I was told you were the guy that helps guys like me.
Nobody's perfect.
Ohh.
That's pathetic. Pathetic.
But one man.
My name is Alex Hitchens.
Call me hitch.
Didn't help you come close.
Who? Let me give you my number.
Do you have a pen?
Yes, I do.
It's green.
The yeah, Cortana.
He can show you the moves, elbows.
6 inches from the waist, 90° angles. This is home. You see somebody you know? I don't want none of this.
So yeah.
Don't bite your lip. Stop biting your lip. None, it is okay.
See, now that's what I need to be learning.
Ohh it's you know I've said it once and I'll say it again. I find it really hard to look at Will Smith in anything these days.
Hmm.
Can't really.
Deal. But at the time, at the time, Hitch was a very big film. Very big.
Yeah, it was. It was it dating Doctor helped men woo women.
He was a date doctor. A professional date doctor and look in America. A date doctor means something completely different to what it does in Australia. Let's just say that a date doctor in Australia might need to have some kind of procedure that involves a hot metal rod inserted into his particular.
Yes.
Yes. Yeah.
Please.
Anyway, this date doctor over in the.
Yes, sorry, yes.
US. He teaches men confidence and charm. But he's got a rule. He's got a strict rule of not interfering in shallow, insincere relationships.
Great rule.
Ah, he's newest client is Albert, played by Kevin James and shy, clumsy accountant.
For any rules, any rules about these wife sleeping with any of his children's friends.
No, that's that's anything goes.
OK, no red table.
No rules, no.
Trying to okay right, OK, good.
No red tape, no red table, no whatever. That's fine. Clumsy accountant disease.
Ohh yes, yes, he wants to help him pick.
Uh, he's client. She's smitten with a glamorous heiress, Allegra Cole, played by a number of water, and he makes Sarah.
Up chicks, basically. Amber Valletta. MMM.
Who's he? Played by Eva Mendez, who's a gossip columnists investigating Allegri's love life, sparks fly between Will and Eva.
Yes. Ohh said, the date doctor and the gossip columnist of Yes.
But then she discovers his true profession. Which threatens bloody budding romance.
That he's a date doctor. She. She's like what? Wait, wait a second. You're a date doctor.
Hmm, I don't date date doctors.
You mean you work on dice? Where? What? Yeah. Are you an American diet doctor? An Australian date doctor cause that that's gonna be that's important news.
You have a day to date, Doctor. Hmm, it is, yes.
Well, it was big for Will Smith, wasn't it? As it means a ROM com ROM coms are pretty safe in that you don't have to spend much money on them to make them. You just got to kind of pay the actors and and have a script.
And we still loved him in the movies.
Yeah, it was.
So what was he, I mean? Ohh men in Black was late 90s.
Was many black wall build West?
Interesting that it used. Asha in the trailer, I guess he doesn't. Get to choose the song.
No, I don't think that had any.
I would thought he put his own son.
I don't think that had anything to do with him. He did do a song for that film, though, didn't he?
Boom. Shake the room.
No, it was a shake or something. You had to shake something.
Ohh can ***** with it.
No, I don't think it was getting *****. With it not singing.
We can. We can wild Wild West.
No, that was for wild Wild West.
Stop.
Funnily enough, that film.
Well, amazing.
Yeah. So I didn't know it was you guys.
Amazing. What are the Will Smith songs are there?
It was like, hey, hey, that I didn't want to sing it, but there's the I I yeah, you left me with.
Ohh. No, no, no.
No other options.
I think it's got some clicking.
Yes. And he cares.
We got there something.
Hmm.
Got something to do with volume, like a volume, words prevailed volume.
You know what?
Keep that, keep that song's name, our ship and mouth. Excuse me, this is walking down the catwalk and posing for some photographs.
Wow.
Do you like my little spin at the end? There is good walking with a purpose, which is the purpose is to sell clothes.
Nescafe, you are fashion.
Hmm. Yes.
Yes, this is the fashion segment. We don't do these very often.
Ohh cause we are not fashioned.
Far for you.
Just hope you're alright.
You go right with your Bunny and wolf stuff. I you know, but I don't.
I am not fashion New York Fashion week, no.
No.
Is that Bunny and wolf now? It's not, is it?
No.
Ohh well that was wasted. Alright, I'll remember that for the next time you are wearing Bunny and wolfram, we can talk about that and maybe you can.
No, this I'm. I'm going sleeveless Pauline tonight.
Cinema slave is full lane.
Bunny and Wilson not sleeveless.
Will you look good? You look great.
Thank you. Fashion Week New York Fashion week. In fact, this week, 20 years ago, yes.
Yeah, well, that's the big one, isn't it? The New York 1.
And so I thought it would be good to discuss what was on trend, what was fashion 20 years ago.
Really.
OK, I'm. I'm not gonna be much help here.
Ohh.
I mean, I'm never much help anyway. He quippe got us. But I'm definitely not gonna be much help here.
Well, according to those in the know, feminine and flattering and more fizzy than uptight and.
Hindu.
Fizzy.
What's fizzy is pressed up tight like I wouldn't even use those two words together.
Fishing. Well, they're saying the bright colours were in tangy citrus.
OK.
That's feels dizzy.
That's easy. That's sounds fizzy.
Yes, citrus grains, cobalt, Blues and deep plums.
Hmm.
Yes. Whereas like so but but like something like a pencil skirt, you'd be uptight.
Apps.
That's Optus.
That's uptight.
Definitely up ties and.
Copy that.
Yes, embellishments were really big 20 years ago.
Thought of embellishments?
Stealing money from the fashion houses.
So no like fancy, fancy buttons that don't actually serve a purpose, but they're just.
Ohh that's embezzlement. Sorry, embellished. Sorry, I've got my.
There's buttons that don't do anything. But they're just there.
Yes, I got my belly. Should my bezels and views.
This yes, it is. Ribbons, pleating, embroidery.
Embroidery.
Velvet, jewel encrusted knits a do remember the the bejewelled, bedazzled clothing scratchy sound.
That sounds that sounds either super uncomfortable or like you know, you've got a bunch of really gangster head lice.
Scratchy or dangerous? Val fascinates.
She it is because they do in custom needs.
Hmm.
Yeah. Volume was big.
Writing that.
Yep, poofy skirts.
Poofy skirt. Poofy skirts and dress. Tooth. But it did say avoid looking over powered by pairing a full skirt with a lean form fitting top.
That's that's fizzy. Not tired, isn't it really?
Ohh Sheikh was in thanks to Sienna Miller.
What is behosh?
Ohh.
Bohemian, right?
Yes, no shoes.
Bit ****** divvy. Yeah.
Basically, no shoes or the this Jesus sandals flowing skirts that look a bit like, you know, remember, gypsy roads that shop Gypsy Rd.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Member Gypsy Rd. I don't think ever went in there. It's too scared to go bought a caravan.
What a jacket. From there, once the hindsight varied.
Do you like? Do you like Doug's?
Ohh, they're pikey's, not J. See again, I'm just offending so many cultures.
Poet, blouses, scarves, embroidery pastels.
Yes.
Uh huh.
Ah, Sparkling Knicks were in green was the colour of the season.
Sparkling meats.
Really, I think our overall green.
Not sure if they're head lice or fireflies. Sparkly knits.
I think the biggest the biggest moment, though, from 2005 Fashion Week and I think they have a few in the year, this was the Spring Fashion Week.
Hmm.
Jay Lo debuts her first runway collection at this Fashion Week.
OK. Can we just, if we're gonna talk about Jlo at the time of recording? I don't think there's been any charges brought against her. All right, so we can still talk about it at the time of recording, OK.
We we can, we can. I don't think there will be. Will it really?
I don't think there will be.
Maybe from the I we know who.
Yeah, we do.
A certain boyfriend.
OK. I don't think we're allowed to talk about it.
Why aren't we let everyone else's talking about it?
I don't know.
We might get sued.
I just don't want to talk about it, cause it might might be end up being out. Of context. By the time this goes to air.
No. Look, I think I think we're OK, I think.
Ohh yeah. Well, yeah, she's OK. Good.
It was a this is 20 years ago.
What's what?
What did she do? Yes, yes.
It was fine 20 years ago.
Is a different time when you're allowed to do this.
She's fashioned. She's always being fashioned.
Ohh this for your allowed.
Remember the Versace dress?
Some might say it's right. You're allowed to have Versace dresses and.
The plunging neckline.
Like closure? Yep.
She's always been quite fashionable. So she dabbled in in making some fashion, but this was her first runway collection.
Right.
Ah, the sweet face collection. It was called to sweet face lots.
Sweet faith.
That sound? Dizzy.
There's.
Lots of layering. Skinny scarves. They were big early 2000s.
Skinny what? What are they gonna do? What's the skinny scarf that I do?
Nothing. It's for show, it's for show that was very OC, Misha Barton, Lagoona Beach.
Ohh yeah sure.
They all wore the skinny scarves.
All the better to strangle you with my friend. Yeah. Great.
Chucky.
I like it.
I'm on board chunky mitts and the the piece daughters is dolls was the ruffled jumpsuit, which was modelled by Naomi Campbell. She came out with his ruffled jumps because I watched the runway ruffled jumpsuit.
Yeah.
But there's this big. Big Hat and it was a big um, it's like a fluffy hat.
Frost.
And it was over her face.
Did that distract from the ruffled jumpsuit?
And no one knew it was Naomi. He walks out and she's rustling. And they're like, wow ruffles. And look at that hat. And then she kind of lives the hat on.
I was like the Scooby Doo Scooby Doo reveal.
And we're like, ohh, it was a reveal. And it was like, holy crap. That's Naomi Campbell modelling in the Gaol outfit.
She was like, and I would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids. And then Ben Affleck was next to Jalen Rosewood Ryobi.
Yes.
He.
I think we've, I think we've got a we've got an interview with Jlo about her collection.
Well, we didn't.
So don't we?
Interviewer we've gotta grab.
If.
We have just don't flatter yourself for a take it easy.
Someone else is intelligent like.
You know, I was presented an opportunity with the idea of designing my own line and with music and movies and fashion being so closely correlated, I really felt like I had a sensibility for to contribute something to it. So I decided to do it and that. Was three years ago. We started with a junior sportswear line, call Jay Lo, and now today we're launching Sweet Face and doing our first one race show.
Hey, baby.
It's our big kind of contemporary line and you know, it's exciting. It's really exciting.
That's not the first line you've done in Hollywood, I'm sure.
Listening Sutton share he excited.
Yeah, it is. I'm thrilled for her.
Yes, I can tell.
Hmm.
There, but OK, I no if you could, if you could save my face. I'm about as enthusiastic as Affleck has been.
Talk. Ohh.
So I I just don't know what to do with fashion segments, I really.
No, you do look a little bit confused. Don't you like you're uncomfortable?
It's it's difficult.
I just am really I am a duck. Out of water.
Ohh look, I'm not fashioned either, but I do like thinking back to what people.
Ohh rubbish.
I like thinking back to what people were wearing.
You always look good.
I do like I do, like thinking back to ohh.
You always look good.
Remember the skinny scarves? Ha ha ha.
What a look.
Yeah, I get that.
It's nice to think about it.
I mean, I remember being outraged back in the day because men started blow drying their hair.
Hmm.
I was like what?
What the keys that what do you blow? Drying your hair for. That's a conversation for another time. Hatches, matches and dispatches.
Recently, say what they do these days.
Ohh they it's a brave new world.
Wow, you're very outraged with.
This.
Everyone's blowing everything these days. I don't know what's happening. Hair and other stuff. It's hatches, matches and dispatches, so we're.
Just, yeah.
A celebrity.
That was tying the knot or getting engaged is never getting engaged.
It's another. It's another engaged 1.
There wasn't a wedding. Engagement.
Yeah, not the wedding.
It's close enough to a wedding.
Yes, we'll talk about the wedding as well.
I think still calling it 4 for four.
Sure.
Yes.
That said this.
It's a really genuine person.
Yeah.
And that, to me, meant more than anything else in the world.
If you said Christina Aguilera. You would be great.
I don't think.
She got engaged to Jordan Bratman, who is a music executive, and I am already worried that it's not gonna end well.
I think he helped launch a career as involved in her recording.
Did he?
Yes, he proposed to her during a romantic getaway in California. He decorated a hotel room with rose petals, balloons and gifts, and pop the question with a custom design engagement ring featuring A5 carat diamond in a platinum setting reportedly worth about $54,000. What?
What's the age difference between Christina Aguilera and?
Ohh.
I'm not sure she was 24.
Golden Bratton with this stuff.
She was 24 when they got married and people were commenting that ohh, she's quite young, but they had been dating, I think for about 3 years before they got married so.
She's very young. She's like 21. How old is he?
I don't know how old he was. I don't think he was that much. Older than her, to be honest.
Really.
Well, I guess you know it is a young person's game, isn't it? Ohh I just, I just I'm always dubious.
Ohh yeah it's like. A record company executive or something?
Yeah, he does look quite young. He's 47 now. So how old's Christina now? What's?
She I think she turned 40 recently.
She's this might come back and bite me on the **** massively as I'm workshopping this.
The ring was created.
So she's 44, has only three years difference between mothers.
Ohh so would mean 27.
Pretty good.
I just feel like, you know, he's the record. Except it's where you eat, mate.
Kid.
Do you know what I mean? Like.
The ring was made by British jeweller to the stars Stephen Webster, who also created rings for the Guy Ritchie and Madonna. No.
Okay.
Well, that and that worked out so well, didn't. It.
She said yes and she called her friends and family to. Share the news.
You have.
Hey mum and dad.
Guess what?
I'm getting married to long time boyfriend and music executive Jordan Bratman.
That.
Ohh good. Started dating in 2002. Yes, at three years earlier, while working together in the music industry, their relationship quickly became serious with him becoming a steady and supportive presence in her life.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
They marry later in 2005 November in Napa Valley with a Winter Wonderland theme.
Ohh the wine country. Yes. Excellent.
And if she wore a stunning gown, I can't say that guy's name, but it was stunning. Ohh.
Christian Lacroix. Lacroix, my God, Christian lacrar yeah.
Ohh you are. Fashioned looking here.
Full of surprises.
They were married for nearly six years and had a son, Max, who was born in 2008. They eventually divorced in 2011, citing irreconcilable differences. But they remain amicable Co parents to their son.
My son Max has been able to help me make peace with my own past and make me feel like I can. Have a fresh start.
Yeah.
Good on your Max. That's very mature of Max I look, I just feel like and I'm the cause my imagination is running wild with the facts that have been presented to me and the leading me down a path of speculation.
Okay.
I reckon I would have done really well working for like one of those gossip magazines.
Because I could OK magazine.
Yeah, exactly. Cause all of this is BS, right?
But I'm just.
Thinking Bratman is like the guy. That kind of brings her to fame. He's the producer. He's, he's that supportive person, right?
Hmm.
He's the supporter and he's he's helping her through this, but it obviously gets to a stage where she is successful and she's got a bit of control and power over her own career and he's just becomes redundant and maybe he doesn't know what to do with that redundancy.
Hmm.
And then they have a son, thinking maybe that'll fix everything. And then it turns out that it becomes even less relevant because he's, you know, he's career driven and he's got a bit of a male ego on him. And and he's like. Actually, I don't like the way these stories going. It's just gonna make may look like an ***.
Hmm, an interesting theory. Well, she. Well, she's engaged now. I think she's been engaged for some time but hasn't married her partner. I can't remember his name, but they have. I think they have a daughter.
Didn't never.
Disney said she needs, like, just to have a guy that's a kept man. Do you? Know what I mean?
And no activity man.
Run.
She's got all the success and all that stuff and he's quite happy. Just you. Living in the background and you know, service servicing her whenever she needs to be serviced.
Hmm.
Do you know what I mean? Like, that's what she needs.
Is it actually love?
I need someone to compete with career wise.
You shouldn't look.
Maybe we should let him know. Maybe.
Yeah, well, hopefully that's what she's got.
Yeah, I think so. Well, I think they've been together for a while. That her current. Partner, they're just, they're engaged.
Yes.
But they're just, we don't need to be married. That's fine. They're just happy.
Ohh, you're not well. Look what happens when they do. You know, you go and buy these rings that get made for people that have obviously got curses over them because you know. Ohh yeah, this is the same guy that did the ring for Guy Ritchie Madonna. I'd run a mile.
It's cursed. Still gonna work.
But what would I know about successful marriage? Ohh heaps cause I'm sitting here with my cohost. The wonderful Mel, you know, we know how to keep that spark going, don't we?
What?
They're podcast together. Yes, I'm too tired for anything else. Just add another activity to our long list of activities so that we can fill our life up with activities.
Hmm, sure.
OK, I don't even know what I'm talking about.
I don't know either. I think it's probably time to go then.
Ohh, I think it's absolutely I think it's I think so.
Should we just? Don't think we might say goodbye now.
Right, I think so.
Time to go dear.
The problem is.
Wrap it up.
Is yes. OK. That's the end of the podcast. I don't know if we've got anything on for next week at the moment, but we'll figure it out as that and we'll keep you posted in the mean time, you can come and find us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, tick tock, search for t -, 20 podcast. And thank you. Thank you. Again, for bringing just a little bit of joy into our lives by listening to us.
Yeah.
Yes, it's it's really great, you know and we love you for it and we'll talk to you next week.
We appreciate you.
It's.
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