13 to 19 March 2005: Did we almost create a black hole? Why was our Delta Goodrem being labelled as a home wrecker? And is this where the machines first rose up? Cause robots have taken over the workplace and the box office.

⚛️ Did scientists almost create a black hole? Scientists at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider were smashing particles together at nearly the speed of light, reaching temperatures hotter than the sun. One physicist suggested we may have created our own version of a black hole. Big bang anyone?

🥊 Manny Pacquiao vs. Erik Morales – The first of an epic trilogy that saw two legends trade punches, switch stances and leave everything in the ring. Morales took the win, but Pacquiao wasn’t done yet.

🤖 Hitachi’s Emiew rolls in, proving robots are getting smarter and leaving us wondering who will defend us against AI when the time comes?

💖 Delta Goodrem & Brian McFadden’s love story begins with Almost Here topping the charts. The duet had all the romance, all the drama, and way too much British tabloid outrage. The budding romance survived the headlines—at least for a few years.

🎮 Retro gaming nostalgia hits the Nintendo DS with Atari Classics, because who doesn’t love Pong on a touchscreen?

🎬 Robin Williams steals the show in Robots, an animated adventure about inventors, upgrades and fighting capitalism (with fart jokes). Featuring the voices of Ewan McGregor, Halle Berry, and Greg Kinnear, Robots proved that if you give Robin Williams a microphone, comedy gold happens.

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:22 show opener
• 9:54 news
• 24:53 open up the boom box
• 27:37 sport
• 36:14 tech
• 42:50 music
• 59:43 movies and tv
• 1:08:11 gaming
• 1:14:07 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:20:49 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo. T minus. Rewind 20 years with Joe. 

The. 

13th March 2005. 

T -, 20. I wouldn't do. 

This is a talk show T minus. 

20 It's an ice breaker. Don't judge me. Yet this is the next. 

Now you will come home. 

My question is who approved that? 

Do you see where this is? 

It's going not really. 

I just realised that I haven't really thought about how I'm gonna get us into the show this week and if I could turn back time, well, that's what we do. I would have done it differently and that's what we do as well. On this show, we do things differently, but we do turn back time to this week 20. 

You. 

Ago. Are you with me, Mel, do you understand where I'm coming from? 

Would have signed away. I've just started thinking about Cher and how amazing was she? She was. She did turn back time at something the other day, and she was wearing a very similar outfit to the one on the on the on the ship. 

The woman doesn't age. It's a miracle of modern. 

Incredible. 

Medical science. This is a podcast called T -. 20 If you've never. 

It's not a, it's not a share or share tribute podcast. No, but we do appreciate that. 

No, that's exactly right. We cover a lot of topics and sometimes we go off topic like we just did then for example, and it's all OK and it's just it's a safe space and you welcome into our safe space where we rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with your host Joe and Mel. 

Look fine. Hello Matt, which is 2005. 

No. 

And this week? We're snack bang in the middle of March 13 to 19 March, March. 

This is stuff happening, kind of sciency stuff. 

This is the Brookhaven National Laboratory in Long Island. Home to the relativistic Heavy Ion Collider. 

You are gonna find out all about the relativistic heavy ion Collider. 

That doesn't even sound like a word that sounds like. 

Alright, it's. It's a great name for a heavy metal song. 

Made that *** relativistic. 

This next ones called Relativistic Heavy. 

Woo. 

Let's open up a pit. 

On. 

I'm going to Robot City. I'll make you proud. 

Do you remember? This is a massive animated film. Had a huge cast, one of the one of the cast of course being Robin Williams and I love Robin Williams acting in in a voice over capacity in an animated film. I have to say. 

I do. I do remember I was working on the kids show and we gave away movie passes to it, yes. 

There you go. We'll have a look at that one at the box office. Speaking of box office. A big I'm. I'm not gonna be ambushed by musical theatre, but here you go. We are going to talk about musical theatre later. I can't. Away from it, see. 

I feel like this musical theatre is one that you could get around, though I think you'd. 

I probably could a comedy. It's always good when it's funny. Anyway, those stories and more on T. 

This one. 

20. 

I'd like to test you. I'd like to test. I'd like to test your knowledge. 

I test oh, I haven't been tested for a while. Well, not for anything good anyway. 

I want to test you. I I stumbled across something on the socials called the Gen X ASMR Blindfold challenge. 

My age. Oh, asmr. See alright, you've already. I didn't even. I took me. I. 

GE and so. 

I was so late to the party on ASMR. I don't know what it stands for, but I do know that. Just people. 

Audio Sensory Meridian response. 

Wow, there you go. And all I know is. 

I think it is. 

Where people put paper clips in in jars and flick rubber bands and they breathe. 

Really. 

Or just chew food like, you know, just yes and honestly, like I just it's it's really gross. Yeah, the wet lasagna ASMR stuff. Yeah. And it was a thing that was trendy for a while there. And are we over it now? I don't know. 

All the lasagna guy. Remember that and it was really wet. Remember that. And he was famous, yeah. Well, this is. Really, asmr. It's basically noises. 

But the response is the is the goosebumps, the goosebumps, and the hair standing on the back of your neck. 

From the genetic, yes. So the idea is Gen X's will get the goosebumps because these are sounds that they all should know. So I'm going to play you. 

I thought I could most jedxes haven't had them for all. 

I'm gonna play you. Yeah. Some sounds some Gen X ASMR. And your challenge is to say what's creating said sound OK. 

OK, this would be interesting because I have all the sound stuff in front of me. You're gonna do this? Obvious file. 

Play it through my phone. Is there an end of my phone that's better to put to the microphone? I don't where the sound comes out of my. 

The end, but I would do you see in that I think it's the bottom. Yes. Sam comes out of the bottom when you're a Gen X or more than anywhere else as well. OK. Yes. 

Where does? Sound come out this. Ends this end. OK, alright, OK. Here are we ready, okay? 

Come on. I know exactly what that is. That's putting a tape into a video cassette recorder. 

What? It. It is, yeah. Give yourself a Ding. 

Thank you very much. 

OK. 

Are you ready for number 2 Gen X ASMR? 

OK. Yes. Yep. What is this like? 

Here we go. 

Sorry, sorry, missed, I just missed. 

Stop talking. You've just missed it. Now I've got to try and rewind something on just like how hard it is to rewind a reel. 

So who's who's real is this that we should give credit to the channel? 

Is very difficult. I I don't know until the end, I'll have to jump back in at the end just to wait. This is very difficult. I'm having to sumbow it all the. 

OK. All right, stand by. But. 

Back to the start. Now can you stop talking? 

Yep. Ready. Go. Standing boss. 

Do you inherit again? 

Yes, please. That. Is. Umm can I have it one more time? OK, give, give me a he just a very tiny hint. I think I know what it is, do you think? 

Orange and you look into. 

Oh, that that's too much of A hint. It's the view, master. You know the thing and you put the little. 

Oh, what is it? Yeah. 

Rule. 

Usually sit around. I didn't think you'd get that, so I was being generous with this, OK? 

Yeah, yeah, that's the flicking of the thing. It's a view, Martha. Way too generous. I thought I knew what it was. And as soon as you said it was orange, I was like, Yep. 

OK, ready for the next? 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

OK, here we go. Stop talking. 

Yes. 

Assist the TV after midnight. 

It's a box TV. Say it's got the the box TV so. 

With an old tasso ray tube television. 

Son calls the box TV. 

And basically what happens is is. At after about like 12, maybe feel lucky one or two in the morning. They'll do a little end of thing message and then it's just white noise until 5:00 AM or 6:00 AM or. The breakfast starts. 

He goes to sleep. 

Yeah, I I know it. 

OK, you've got one more. Are you ready? You're ready. 

01 more. Oh my gosh, sure. 

Oh. 

Would you like it again? 

Yes, please. Something releases at the end of. Give me a hint, but this time just a tiny hint. I just need a little bit to fire the the neural pathways back up. Do you know what I mean? Like I it's because it's. You can almost picture it like you close your mind's eye and you picture. It's like blurry. It's like a pixelated image. Yeah. Yes. 

Umm. I don't know. To say without giving it away. 

Is it a? 

Is it a? 

Ask me a question. Yes. 

Is it a utensil? Is it a kitchen device? Is it an entertainment entertainment device? Yes. 

No. Yes. 

Is it loading a Walkman? 

Yes. 

I. 

Didn't think you get that one. So he's putting a cassette in it and then he was ejecting it back out. Yes. Being very relented. Your rights. Look at that. You got it all. So this. 

Yes, I said. That's why I said something was being released. Yes, yes, there we go. Was that Gen X? 

Asmr. It was Gen X ASMR, so it's from an accounts called AARP, which is a journey through the lives of generation X. I'm gonna give them a sneaky follow. I think that's right in our wheelhouse, isn't it? 

Yes. That's good. Good. Well, we've endorsed them now, so let's hope they stay the course and don't turn into. I don't know. 

No scandals or anything like that. 

No skin. Yeah, I don't need any weird influences dropping. Well, that's a Gen X bordering on a boomer. I'm very wary about my, my social media. 

They seem quite wholesome if they think we're all right. 

I'm concerned and afraid of it. Yes, but give me some Gen X asmr any day and I'll. 

The footprints. 

That for you. 

Very soothing, isn't. 

It don't you worry about that. Yes, yes. 

That's some lovely ASMR, isn't it? That would just put you to sleep, wouldn't it? So soothing. 

Oh, it's beautiful. That's it certainly stirs me. 

Very Enya esque. I could have could have. A feature on the Enya album, perhaps. 

And you risk like as in as in anti from T loop. 

To the Enya. 

T loop and yeah. It's a hatches, matches and dispatchers clue because that's the segment we do at the end of the show, and this is a little trick we do to hook you through. It's either a birth, a death, death. For a marriage or something that from a celebrity, what do we have this week? This is another birthday this week. 

Yes, it is a birthday. Yes it. 

I can't even remember it is a birthday, a celebrity, having a birthday. Who said this? 

It is. It is. 

Oh. 

That's a that's that's that's, that's, that's a Walkman chewing a cassette tape. 

I'm right in the middle of the Mooseheads dance floor. Goodness me. Oh, OK, alright. No, no, it's not. And it's. Yeah. Something you remember from the 90s? 

All right, we'll find out who. That's so easy. That's a Gimme that one. But we'll give it. Yeah. Yeah. Stay tuned for the big. 

It's very easy. Yes, it is. They've got some interesting information about that. So you wanna hear it, but stay free with. Information that's interesting a bit, yeah. 

I think if you are um, I don't know if you just kind of making your way around the house, just doing something and you've got this on in the background or wherever you are I guess. But if you have an opportunity to stop, maybe press press. Fix yourself up a cup of tea or whatever beverage of choice. This is a scientific week as far as news goes. And we. May not be the best sources. For science stuff, I mean like, well, it's a, it's a nostalgia slash comedy. Not very funny, entertaining, whatever podcast, but we do research and actually, well, I can tell you, right. 

Remains insane. 

Clear, not science. Is that what you're saying? 

Now I was good at chemistry. Shut up. 

A lot of research went into this but. 

Hmm. 

You could probably search for the same stuff on the Internet if you get sick of hearing us talking about it, you go Google it yourself and you'll find what we found is that OK? Sure, I mean it won't be as entertaining as this because this is good. 

Sure, that's fine. Just. 

Right. 

Like if we just, I mean where else are you going to do 80s SMR from somebody else's? 

Yes. We're just bringing it all together. We're curating we're curators. 

OK. 

Of nostalgia, the nostalgia curators. 

That's right. And on that note, his Mel with the news. 

Oh, I'm doing it. I just. You shouldn't really have me doing the science. I'm still confused about 3D printing. It just hurts my brain and this is like 3D printing. This is very confusing. 

Alright, OK. You want me to do? This scared me when it first happened. I thought it was an apocalyptic event. I did think it was an apocalyptic event that was about to happen. So. 

I'm still worried about it, to be honest. I wish they wouldn't do it. It's gonna have a bad impact. 

There was an ion Collider at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider particle accelerator. Trader in Upton in New York. 

Relativistic. Now that does not feel like the real. 

Yeah. And there was a physicist, there was a physicist called Horatio Nastasi, or Nastas, or Nastase, depending on what side of Canberra you live on. 

Word. 

Who thought that he might have created a black hole he's like. 

I say, oh, I created that wootz. 

Might have and I don't know about you, but I've seen that Disney movie when I was a kid about the black hole, and then I did some black hole stuff in science, like just some high level stuff, you know, helicopter, you helicopter view of science. 

Did. Make. 

When I was doing science, yeah. 

There's in a textbook. OK. Thanks. 

And I was in high school, speeding mature. It might have been drawing on quite a few things in the in the textbook, if I'm being honest. But it's. But. But I know what, but I knew what black holes were. And to hear that this guy nearly created one, I was like, why would somebody? Why the **** would you want to do that? It sounds like not a good thing to do. 

Sounds dangerous, yes. 

This blow could propose to ratio proposed that a theoretical model suggesting that the collisions at the Heavy Iron Collider and early 2005 could have created conditions similar to. To a black hole, but not the way we kind of think of it. But I just you need to know, I guess how all this comes together. We need to get a little bit. 

And it seemed very scientific. Now, don't we mention this brown flare cord sneaked to be wearing? 

Well, I mean we, I mean we pay a league comparison to Dean and Rob really. I mean, I mean I can't do the moustache and. 

For this. 

You've got better hair so. 

I have a bit of a Moat. I think some FAQs are what we need. To be honest, some some FA Q's because that's what I always do when I don't understand things. Where's your FAQs page for the frequently asked questions? So my first cue is what? 

Yes. Submissive, yes. Well, what's your? What's your? What's your first cue? 

A relativistic heavy ion Collider, RH IC question mark. 

Thank you, Mel. I'm glad you. 

Asked. 

This is the Brookhaven National Laboratory in Long Island, home to the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, or Rick for short. 

The. 

Here they recreate matter that filled the embryonic universe 1 millionth of a second after The Big Bang. 

In a sense, Rick, it really is a time machine. We're reproducing the conditions that existed in the early universe on the order of one microsecond after The Big Bang. 

Rick fires gold nuclei around a 2 1/2 mile circular tunnel 78,000 times a second. Almost the speed of light. 

The. 

Then it smashes them together in a giant star detector. 

Sorry, did somebody say Rick? Hey, hey. Nothing wrong, rich. 

Oh OK wrongly. 

Well, as you would have heard, the particle accelerator, right? Yes. That smashes things into each other under extreme conditions to try and simulate conditions like a few seconds before The Big Bang. That's what it is. 

OK, alright, my. 

What what could possibly what could possibly go wrong? Is my question OK? 

Nothing. What my next FAQ my next frequently. 

Yes. 

Question. How long has the Rick been around? What does it actually do? 

Thank you, Mel. I'm glad you asked. So it's I think 2000 is when it was operational and it was to, as I said before, recreate the conditions of the early universe by producing a state of matter called Quark. 

2. 

Gluon plasma, which is the Super hot, dense soup of fundamental particles that existed. Micro seconds after The Big Bang. OK, So what it does is it accelerates. It's a big circle, big massive circle and it accelerates and collides heavy ions, the particles. It spins them around in this big circle, these large. 

Like the gravitron OK, but less vomit. 

Yes, yes. Less vomit, maybe more end of the world stuff. I'm not sure. I think I'm. I'm probably being a bit sensationalist and the scientists would be offended by that. But these, they, they're they're they're heavy ions, these large atomic. 

OK. 

Got it. 

Nuclei strips of their electrons and. Old, right? But yes, the nuclei smashed together at nearly the speed of light. The speed of light right reaching temperatures of over this is a heavy duty 4 trillion°C that's hotter than the core of the sun. And then that environment breaks down protons and neutrons and neutrons into the fundamental. 

Expensive. 

Building blocks which are the quarks and gluons, and then that forms quark gluon plasma. And since that plasma has existed just microseconds after The Big Bang, studying that cork glue on plasma. Helps scientists understand the conditions that led to the formation of matter. In the universe. Yes, you have a question. I have a see your hands up, yes. 

I haven't frequently asked question. I stopped listening halfway through that paragraph. What is Quark Quan plasma? 

Yeah. Yep. 

Curiosity. 

Thank you. I'd you. 

Quark. Oh. 

Quark glue on plasma glue on gluon GLQUARKGLUON OK gluon. No, it's not the dark. I'm sorry. Yes, quark gluon plasma. 

Do you want? 

It's it's a hot and dense state of matter where clocks and gluons, which are the fundamental building blocks of protons and neutrons. Are no longer confined within individual particles, and instead they move around in this plasma liquidity like state, similar to how electrons are nuclei, exist freely in an ionised gas like they kind of just floating around, right? 

The blades. 

That is the thing that they think they believe existed. Straight after The Big Bang, before they cooled down and then they formed the atoms that make up the universe. So it's it's something that's in a pre atom state. The Cork glue on plasma is the thing that happens until it cools down and forms an atom, right? So before they had the Collider, scientists theorised that quarks and gluons were confined inside protons and neutrons, which are the things in the atoms, right? But. 

Right. 

Surprisingly, after they did this, they found out that it behaved like a nearly perfect liquid instead of which means it flowed around with very little viscosity. 

Oh, I'm surprised and I have another question. 

What's the next question? 

What is jet quenching? 

Well, thank you. I'm glad you asked Jet quenching. And I know we didn't kind of cover this, so I think it's very intelligent of you to have actually brought that up. You clearly have done more homework than what you're letting on, I think. 

I'm free emptying pray emptying, yes. 

None. 

Jet quenching is when high energy particles travel through the quark gluon plasma and they lose energy due to interacting with the plasma, which is and that's that. That that loss of energy in that interaction with the plasma is what they call jet quenching, and this gives them information when they see the jet quenching. Those high energy particles through the QP that's called gluon plasma. That's the acronym right. And the energy dissipates. That gives them insights into how. How these corks and gluons react in extreme positions or inter react I should say yes. What's your question? 

So did Rick create a black hole? 

That is Mel. Thank you. I'm glad you asked because that is the big question because that's what everyone was going hysterical about at the start. We're circling back if they say. 

That's a. Yeah, that's probably probably at the top of the FAQ's. That's probably the most frequently asked of the frequently asked questions. But you know, we had to get a bit of tension happening, so ask it. 

Well, yes, but I feel like we're building. Anticipation, attention and and and curiosity as well. 

Did it go? Black hole. What's the answer? 

Ah, right. 

Now I know right? It's a massive disappointment. No, it didn't in the conventional sense. So the collisions, though they did provide temperatures hotter than those in the core of the sun, that was important. And the plasma behaved like a nearly perfect fluid. It became liquid. 

All that. 

But it did not generate what they would call an event horizon or an actual black hole. Capable of trapping matter or light, right? Remember a black hole was, you know, like they all matter and light gets sucked into a black hole. Yeah, it collapses universe. It feels like it's going to swallow everything around it. Yes. So it didn't do that, but. 

Yes, that's scary. That's scary. It's not fun. 

What's his name? The guy that actually accepted the experiment. Horatio ratio. I feel like we're on a first name basis. We've come this far. 

Nastasse. 

He. 

His argument was more that it was about mathematical analogy, so he suggested that the the plasma behaved in ways similar to dual gravitational descriptions of black holes in string theory. So his work was really theoretical and he didn't. Imply the formation of actual black holes in the lab. Yes, you've got to see your hands up, Mel. 

That's disappointing. So if it didn't create a black hole, then who gives a ****? 

Curiosity. 

Thank you, bill. I'm glad. 

You asked well. 

Horatio did he cared. I mean, he did the experiment, and other scientists cared as well. They cared. 

Hmm, no I don't. I do well. 

This idea that he had to do this sparked a lot of interest in the broader study of things like gravity and high energy physics and whatnot, and that connected heavy iron physics and string theory and gravitational analogies and and and all of that stuff which helps. Physicists explore ways of understanding extreme states of matter. Which probably helps them understand things more about how the obviously how the universe was formed, but how to traverse across the universe as well. I might have added that little bit to make it sound more interesting, but The thing is, is that mainstream physicists and physics really don't support the idea that the. The Haldron Collider could or the the the, the, the Rick or the other. You know, the big the other big one, the LHL. C The large hard drive. 

Oh, that one from a few years ago. And that was just that was. Wasn't that just after COVID. And everything had gone to poop. And I just thought, do we really want to deal with this right now? Is this, is this the right time for this? No, no, stop. 

It starts smashing atoms together and say what happens. Yeah, everything's under control. Well, the that's what they're saying, like mainstream physics. And the physicists behind mainstream physics really don't support the idea that Rick or the other one could create big, dangerous black holes. No, thank you, Mel. I'm glad you asked. 

Just stop it. Is it worth the risk though? 

Curiosity. 

I mean, take a look outside. What's the news? The world like? We might as well blow it up at this stage. Like, really, you know? Any more questions? No, no, you don't want to know whether or not we could make one right now. 

Ah, alright, can we make one right now? 

Thank you, bill. I'm glad you. They do suggest that they could do it, but they'd be harmless due to something called Hawking radiation, which is this process whereby black holes lose energy and evaporate. So it's like if they if they turn it off then it just goes. 

Oh. 

Oh, OK, right. 

It's gone, so they don't think it's dangerous. I did that sound effect because I hadn't had time to. One earlier, I thought it was really right. 

It didn't sound dangerous, so I'm feeling much more comforted about this now. 

No. So so like so like if? If a black hole formed that was microscopic, like in the middle of this room. 

Yeah. What would it suck? 

In. Well, it wouldn't suck anything. It'd evaporate in a fraction of a second because of Hawking radiation. No. To be completely harmless. So, so, so far, no, no black holes. Hmm. Nothing to worry about. And if one had formed, then it might have evaporated. But we're not sure in most mainstream physicists. 

Wouldn't suck anything. Wouldn't suck you into a ditch or anything. No. OK. Hmm. 

The energy. That is required to create a black hole far exceeds anything that we could ever achieve on earth, especially in one of those colliders. 

OK. 

And that concludes my Ted talk. 

The. 

Oh. 

That's probably fitting. After all of that science thing, I felt like I needed a post coital cigarette. After doing all that thinking, however, I'll be happy with opening up the boom box. Yeah, let's open up the boom box. Let's, let's have some okay boomer type moments as we. 

And. 

Now it's time to complain instead. OK. Yes, Burma, complaints millennial complaints. Janet Daniel silenals. 

Whatever you want to call them. Yep. 

Whatever you complain, phone box. Yes. And we open up the room box on the socials. We got some great booms and our. 

We we just call it opening up. Boom. 

Mm. 

Hmm. Did we see people boom at us? Yes. 

This week. Wonderful Bron, Bronwyn boomed at us. Yes, and bronwyn booms. How many bloody passwords do you need now? Honestly, it's a joke. I barely remember what day it is. Yes. And then and then I replied, and I was. 

Oh, you got in the you got in on it. 

I. 

Well did. 

Off a boom for me too, isn't. 

It there's a chain reaction. You're back to the particle Collider. Now your particles have collide. 

I was like, what about? 

Did it set? 

Off a black hole of booming and we all got sucked in and I got sucked in and I said, well, how about when you forget your passwords? So then you reset your password and it comes through on the e-mail. You click on the link and you go in and you put your new password in, but your new password is the old password that you forgot and then it says you can't have the same password again. 

MMM. 

Oh. 

Wow, I know. 

That's a lot of booming mm. 

And and then Roman comes back going. 

Oh my God, she boomed back at you. Mrs boom. Back ****. 

I know and don't. And don't get me started on setting up the streaming channels on your TV. 

No, please don't. 

Opelia opelia. 

No, he's Ophelia. 

I don't even turn the TV on in our house. 

Boy. 

This segment could go forever, really, couldn't it? 

Please, if you'd like to put something in our boot box, just message us. Go and find us on the socials t -, 20 podcast. You can slide into our DMS. 

Well, and you can sign into our damns. I think we're just going to officially open up the boom box once a week over on the on the stories. 

Really. 

Yeah. On the weekend, 'cause, I feel like that's when you're ready to complain on the we've got some time complaints are built up over the week, jumped into the boom box on the weekend. 

Like this? It it's actually a concept for a whole other podcast really. 

Tell us. Tell us your booms and it's therapeutic. Actually, I feel good now after ******** about that password thing, I still annoy. But I feel feel better. Problem shared is problem. 

Yeah. 

Safe space? Absolutely. Or you? 

Just blow it up. 

This will bring us all back down, I think. 

Are. 

Sport, sport, yes. 

Sport. What sort of sport are we talking about? Oh, but I don't mind boxing. I don't mind people bashing each other up. It's fine. 

You OK with sport? We're talking about boxing. You don't mind it? It's been a hug, ilism. It's very primal. There's more scientific than what people think. I think. And unfortunately. Boxing, I mean, back in 2005, boxing was great boxing. Now. I mean, like, real boxing. 

Hmm. 

Does that what the Pole brothers, one of the Poles did? That didn't mean with one of the other guys and everyone was excited and there was just nothing. 

Yeah. So what I mean, it's just kind of becoming this weird YouTube thing. And I mean, before they came into it, it wasn't really going well. 

Yeah. 

Whenever the Youtubers take over something, it's like game over so. 

Yeah. There's a little bit of segment overlap there, sorry, I just, yeah, but you started down that path and I figured we needed to kind of tie it up, so yes. 

All right. Yes. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm whinging. It's having a *****. OK, well, alright, I'll calm down now. Because it's when boxing was good. We had a big boxing big fight on the 19th of March. We had Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao squaring off against. 

It was. It was very good. This is an amazing fight. 

Mexican legend Eric Morales at The MGM Grand in Las Vegas. That was that that was lots of boxing that happened. 

Yeah. 

Oh, the MG uncle lions. At The MGM Grand, that's what we stayed on our honeymoon. 

At The MGM Grand. Isn't that and? Was a boxing match at there and then got shot. 

The vmgm deploy. You got charts, yes. 

Three, this was the first of three. There was 3 boxing match at trilogy. 

It's big. Mashes between the three of them, yeah. 

Builders coming with everything coming with everything, a thrilling showdown between two of the sport's most exciting warriors, setting the stage for a memorable trilogy. 

Good. Because, you know, coming, coming, coming with everything sounds like mum packed your bag for school camp. Oh, Christ. 

She packed a VCR. 

Yeah. Yeah, it's the middle of middle and. 

Good on them. 

And I've got, you know, ski pants in here. And it's like it's because Mum might get cold coming with everything. I don't know. It's just it just doesn't say boxing to me. It says. 

Puffer jackets. 20 pairs of undies. 

Add. 

Over packed. Let's check. Let's chat about Manny. Yeah. By early 2005, he's established himself as one. Boxing's rising stars. 

Yes, you did fantastic fighter. 

Burst onto the international scene with a TKO. I think that's is that total knockout. 

It's a technical knockout victory. So basically the fight can't continue, but yeah. 

Technical no, I thought it was total knockout technical. Over Marco Antonio Barrera in 2003. And then there was a controversial tie again. One man. Well, Marquette. 

Come on, you could do better than that one. Make one Manuel Marquez. I reckon that's what I said. Yes, but you like. You didn't sound sure. Sound certain. 

Of yourself? One Manuel Marquez in 2000. Four. Yeah, he's. Style and devastating left hand made him a fan favourite. 

Hmm, good on the let, let's shout out to the left handers. 

The fourth in the featherweight. Is that the South Pole? Is that what is that? What left-hander is a southpaw. 

Well, that that's so southpore is the stance with the right hand and the right foot forward. So then you you so you jab with your right because that's one forward and then you lead with the left. So Southport means he's because he's got the devastating left hand. So yes, he is a southpaw. Yes, you were right and I kind of mansplained that to you and I'm a little bit embarrassed. 

Oh, OK. 

Ashamed that's doing. 

As I was just don't worry, it's just a guess. 

That. 

Well, I think you'll find that it's when he puts his right foot for God. God, God help us all. Sorry. 

Eric, on the other hand, Eric Umani fought. 

Yes. 

His nickname was El Teri Blay El, terribly meaning the terrible, which is kind of how I feel right now. 

And. Cherry bling. 

The. 

Proven, proven champion, three division world title holder. He'd engaged in legendary battles with Barrera, showcasing his technical skill. Iron shin. Does that mean? Like if you get punched in the chin, it doesn't bleed? 

Chin. Yeah, iron. 

Choose. 

Just so you could, some people got like a glass jaw. You know this the same glass jaw when they basically take a hit to the chin and they out cold. Well, he could take a punch to chin. He could handle it. Yeah. 

Hmm. 

Oh, OK. 

So yes, he was determined to bounce back at this match because I think he lost in another fight. So he was ready for it. High pace battle from the start, this one, this match that happened 20 years ago. 

Yeah. 

Well, Morales was a lot like Pacquiao's quite svelte. He's well, he's not felt, but he's he's not as big as what Morales was. Morales was naturally a lot bigger than him, and so he had a lot more size and reach. So. So he played a more physical role in the fight. I think Pacquiao had to be a little bit more technical because obviously when you've got that reach and that height. 

Ah. 

I'm mansplaining boxing to you again. You know what it is, big dudes can. Yeah, but you know big dudes got. They've got an advantage in the story. 

And punches. Carry on throughout the middle rounds. Morales demonstrated his ability to absorb the other guys best shots. 

Yeah, Pacquiao got in there. He was great. He's a bit of a scrapper. Yeah, Manny. 

And Pacquiao, that's it for all his man. He had moments of success, particularly with his straight left, but Morales disciplined boxing and ability to adjust, kept him in control for most of the fight. Right. So we get to the fifth round clash of heads resulted in a nasty cut blood bin for Pacquiao his right eye. 

Ah yes. Yes, that becomes very difficult when they box, but I don't bit of Clarice. Yes. And with the eye because then the eye swells up, so that closes and then you can't obviously aim your punches as good. But a man's planning boxing to you against these. 

Clarets is that what they call it, gushing the Clarets? Yes, pared his vision. Can't see. Can't see this in your eyeballs. In the closing moments of the fight, Morales made a bold statement by switching to a southpaw stance in the 12th. 

Rounds. I don't know if that was. 

A smart move for him to do that. 

He's his confidence and willing to trade with Pacquiao, toe to toe until the final bell. 

They can call this March Gladys. 

Absolutely. There's nowhere else. It's four you'll find. Your intensity greater. Wait, look at raver, steer, guts. And what these do, but this is foxing. 

So. 

Dave Moretti and Chuck Jampa all have the same score. 1:15. To 113 to the winner by unanimous decision. De la Sona, Norway, Tijuana, Mexico. 

Oh. I. 

Rally. 

Oh, that was nice. Rolling at the house. 

Yeah, go. I love that ring announcer. I can't remember his name. El terrible. Morales. Yeah, he did. I mean, we always remember Manny Pacquiao's being a bit of a legend. He didn't win that fight. It was 12 rounds. 

L terrible one. 

MMM. 

Morales got a unanimous decision victory. You heard 100 and 1500. All across all across the board, with all the judges, which reaffirmed him as the elite fighter, and that was Pacquiao's first ever loss in the United States, wasn't you on then, are you? A little bit. 

Yeah, I'm a bit bored, to be honest. 

Talking about policy, look, even though Morales was the victor. 

Hmm. 

It was the beginning of the trilogy. 1st. Pacquiao came back. Yeah, he trained. He learned from the loss. He watched the tape, he did the montage, the rocky style montage. 

Which makes more. 

I'm sure. And then I think it's 2006. They fight again, Pacquiao wins in that one, which we'll probably talk about if we're still going. And then in November he he closed it and he actually got him again. So Pacquiao ended up being the victor overall. So he lost the first one, one the other two. 

Probably not. 

But that was a massive battle, that one that was a very monumental fight. And it goes down in history as being that now. Now Pacquiao these days he's he's a politician, I think he said something really controversial recently, though. I want to get into that. But he's a politician now. He's a senator in the Philippines for 2016 to 2022, he ran for president of the Philippines, didn't win that. But he's very influential over there. National hero. Lots of business ventures, lots of charity work. Does a few exhibition matches every now and then. Maybe he'll end up fighting one of the Paul brothers. Who? And then I think Murali is retired in 2012. And then he. Just works as a trainer and promoter in boxing. Basically, he's a mentor to young fighters and all that sort of stuff, so there you go. Manny, Eric. The beginning of the trilogy. 

Hmm. 

Let's move over to tech. 

Hmm, yes, and I I feel we're going scientific again. This is a little. Yeah, this is a little bit too much for me. 

I told you it was a very scientific episode and well, this is technology. This is an innovation that was brought in in 2005 that had already had substantial work made to it. 

Hmm. 

I mean, I'm thinking of things like, remember that robot on that show? Now you see it. 

Oh, that's that, yeah. 

Yeah, that one or or like Dexter from perfect match, remember that. 

Yep. Small wonder Mickey. 

Yeah, well, that was highly advanced or metal Mickey. Yeah. Also very advanced. Yeah. I would have thought that between, you know, these were the visions that we were having. 

That was a. Good boy, but Yep, Yep. 

Of of robots and cybernetics and. 

#5 is alive. 

25 way back. Notice these are these are things that we were having way back in the 80s. We were thinking about, you know, robots and how they would integrate into our society and benefit us. And we talk about artificial intelligence and all of this stuff these days and way back in 2005, we had a robot. 

Assemble. Yes. We had a real robot. Not on. 

We had a real robot and things were looking up. We were like, Oh my God, we're finally gonna. 

TV. 1. Get it? MMM. The Hitachi MU, which stands for excellent mobility and interactive existence as work, mate. 

Uh. 

Human friendly automation first introduced this time 20 years ago. It was designed to assist and interact with people in public and business environments, showcasing advanced mobility, communication and AI. Wow, already AI driven learning capabilities. 

Yeah. 

It was built with a focus on human interaction, so a little bit different from industrial robots. 

What if itashi make? Do they make like thin blow dryers? I thought they were fine hair dryers. What's Hitachi I? That we feel. 

Are. Fun. 

It was a phone. 

Air conditioners, I think maybe air conditioners, that's. 

Thing. 

Does that ring a? 

Bell. Not really, I thought it was a mobile phone. 

TV's fax machines. They make fax machines. 

Well, maybe TB faxes. Fridge air conditioner when I type it into Google. 

Air conditioning. They got features. Yeah, yeah. 

When I type in hitashi we get. Refrigerator. Construction machinery, TV, A/C. 

There are. Yep. 

An excavator. 

Excavation and robots? Yeah. OK, good. 

A drill. Or a logo. I know that's its logo. 

There are Hitachi that is a oh, I won't go there. That's all right. Yeah. OK, cool. So. But I was like wide range, yes. 

Wide range of products. Not OK. Here we go. It's not a high range of products including but not restricted to Transformers, energy data storage system. Technology stuff. Lots of things. 

Yes. And there's other. There's another. Yeah, yeah. 

Health care, renewable energy, railway systems. I think it's everything, everything. 

And there's the other Hitachi. And if you know what that is. You nasty so. But but robots, they were doing robots. 

Yes, let's let's. Yes, they're doing robots. 

Mu. 

Moves on two wheels. Also, it is like #5 is alive. He had the two wheels on the. 

Yeah, they did. That's right. So it's like about it's a little over. Well, it's under a metre tall. It's about the size of a kid. It's very non threatening, wasn't it? And human. 

Good moved around on its two wheels. Handy for settings like offices, airports, shops where it could assist customers and employees. 

You like it? Had a head and shoulders and arms, but then it moved down on wheels, yes. 

2. Live with. People. Robots should be. Road should move as well as passes human. But the technology. In present present technology. We we can't make robots such a with such a speed, so we choose the two wheel type. 

So that was Toshihiko Horiuchi, who was the robotics project leader from Hitachi. And he was explaining that wheels because of the technology, the wheels, that was the quickest way to get him to keep up with humans. Like they couldn't do the whole bipedal walking type thing yet. 

Oh, I couldn't walk. Yeah, that's Turkey for robots. Yeah. 

The technology was holding them back, so they just put wheels on them, which gets challenging when you get to things like stairs, unless you're like #5 and you've got the Caterpillar tracks, you know, the Caterpillar track system. 

Yes, yes. But they would, they would. 

But at #5 was a very advanced version of like we're only an enemy. 

Johnny 5, thank you. Remember, he gave himself a name Johnny 5. 

That's right. But it did. This is an exact. 

Example of they had the whole they were a smart device or they were starting to be a smart device. They had AI learning these things so they had like natural language processing capabilities, which means they could. They could respond to your speech. They'll voice activated basically. 

Oh. 

Yes. Now it's evolved over the years, so they've still been doing stuff with them, although I don't really think. That well, I mean, have you seen one around the house recently? No. Now there are these tiny little disc things that the cat attacks called Roombas and whatnot. But yeah. So he was he was trying to kind of identify objects and people and recognise speech and all of that sort of stuff. And so they're working on it and and and they're also working on. 

No. 

Hmm. 

Adapting to different environments to, but like I said, like a Roomba probably does a better job of that now. So they also had cloud based stuff, but you know it just didn't really, I mean it didn't really take off, did it? 

I don't think so. They're tested in a few areas, but I guess it was too expensive and really, what would you get them for? But they are still dabbling, aren't they? They still have. They still have it. They still have. 

Yeah, I feel like Boston Dynamics have kind of taken over that a little bit. 

New. 

And they did one. Yeah. In 2016, they had the cloud based remote brain and they started using them at the airport. 

Right. Do you feel like the Roomba is AI mean? Like what else do you want me to do? Like you don't want clean up, like clean up. And I feel like the Roomba is. A step up or a step down? I mean, it's smaller, it's more compact. 

It's got wheels. 

Can't chase you up the stairs. Yeah, it's like who's basically a Dalek, isn't it? 

It's got a music. 

Yes. 

Evie. 

We'll start with the UK brand new number one called Dakota by the Stereophonics. 

The. 

Sounds like yeah. And I was reading and I was like, what is that song? 'cause. That's like one of the songs where the title doesn't necessarily reflect the chorus. And then it's like and then that's like, kind of that song. So that's 20 years old. And then I'm like, wow, that's 20 years old. I didn't realise it was in that long. So there you go. Good on your Stereophonics very big in the brick pop scene. 

Oh, that's that song. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know the name. He played at that song, yeah. First single from the 5th studio album. From the food Studio album language, sex, violence, other with a question mark after the other. 

Right. Yeah. What is the other that's interesting? 

Let's go over. Well, that's the question. That's why it's got. Question mark. Go. 

I've been to interpret Typhoon. Why not? 

The US top five. 

Stand up, everybody. Put your hands up. Let's party. Everybody bouncing me to champagne and bonelood this. Go with Kronos. Let's go. This is. This is. Nobody goes like this. So. So this is how we do. We make a movie like this is. People would like to freeze. 

You should not me, love you. Let me be the one to give you everything you want. Any baby good loving person. 

To my. 

All they want to watch beside me. My shot. Oh, I see. Only thing that's been sunshine. 

'Cause I. Don't you stop and keep going to you? Just stop. 

0. I. 

Said, why not at the start of that and the why not would be? Because it's exactly the same as last week. Yeah, the charts are exactly the same. It. Well, yes. And it I mean different because. 

Yeah. Did you? Why not? Felt a bit indifferent. That's why. That's why you were not was. Why not? 

Candy shop #150 cent and Olivia 2 Boulevard of Broken dreams. Green Day three. Let me love you. 

Mario. 

How we do was that that was the game feat. $0.50 and then Disco Inferno $0.50 in his own right of #5. 

Fate $0.50. This was not. Disco Inferno I was looking for. 

No, no, we have it. We have certainly established that. 

No, look it. 

Was a discovered fellow you were looking for we. 

Well, I mean, cuz you told me look for it. You told me I did it under instructions. 

Looked at that time, I know. No regrets. 

Absolutely not. Thank you. In fact. Thank you. 

That piano was impeccable. That little piano bit in it so good, thankfully worth it. 

Alright. 

So we don't really have any new information. I have been. 

No, it's kind of rubbish. It's been very rubbish charts, isn't it? 

I have been keeping an eye. I have been keeping an eye on $0.50. We spoke last week about the beef with the game and the All brew haha. There and. 

Oh yeah. You know the songs on his album and then the game dissed him and basically got both barrels. 

Bit of bacon and peanut. Peanut got. Paints shop poor of green. 

And peanut, Peanut got shot. Peanut was the loser out of that entire debacle. 

It certainly won't. I wonder how peanuts going today. Not sure. 

You're pretty salty, I reckon. Dad. Dad. 

Dad, I mean, I've been monitoring 50s Instagram because. Does like. Stir things up. He is a bit of a stirrer. 

He's pretty good on the socials. He's got good game on the Socialist Philly, and I mean, Philly was all over the whole Diddy thing. Like he he he basically like he he had all he knows, he's woke. 

It is. It is quite amusing. I don't. I do worry for him. Hey, babes. Yes, he'd been making. 

City is woke in the true sense of the word. 

He has been. He's been discussing it for some time, but anyway, so he's always liking to stir things. A little bit as well. 

Mm. 

On the social so. He's been very busy over the last few weeks so we had ASAP, Rocky, ASAP Rocky. We had his husband, he had, there was some trials, something. 

Yes. He shot someone or he got charges of shooting assault or something. I don't know. I don't know the insurance and. 

Yeah. I totally don't understand, but I saw Rihanna at the court. She. 

Outs. 

Looked at, she looked amazing. 

I barely have enough time to catch up with what's happening in my own life, let alone. 

Well, I didn't even know who ASAP, ASAP Rocky was, to be honest. 

Trying to well, I didn't even know his name was ASAP. I was. I was like you and some old person like. 

Thought it was ASAP roughly. 

Was like well. It's. Acronym. It's clearly I thought it was as soon as possible. Rocky. That's who I thought it was. 

Thought he was reply. I thought it was from spy by Rocky. So in on each social system descents. 

Oh, you thought it was RSVP? Rocky, I just got that joke. Then. Sorry. I'll take you a little while to catch. That's very funny. 

Yes. 

Sorry, yes. 

So 50 Cent $0.50 was discussing ASAP Rocky and in a post he said. I I'm sure that he will. I think whatever happened he he he bettered that he'd win the case. 

RSVP. 

And he said he'd bet $500,000. 

Wow. 

And so then a legal reporter called Megan Conniff. 

Yes. That's unfortunate. 

She left a comment on his post. 'cause he goes, hey, if you wanna get some money, you know who wants the bet? The 50 said this in his post. And then Megan says I'll take that bet. And so then ASAP Rocky wins. And so now he's. 

Uh. 

50s been posting when when am I going to get my money? I need my money by Monday. He's and he's like adding. 

I started to collect. 

Oh. 

Going where's my money? So a bit of a. There then he also the other day shared a GO fund me for Big Meech. 

Who's big mate? 

So big Meech is one of hip hop's most infamous drug kingpin. Like, we're not gonna. We're not saying anything about Big Meech. No, we're just reporting the facts. 

Oh, he's like, legit gangster. No. OK all right. Are you sure? I can't say anything about big me. What is meek? What is meat cheeven mean? 

He was recently, no, you can't. Please don't. Please don't. Please. No, just please don't. He was recently released from gaol. 

OK. Well, thanks. Well. 

And he was going to do a concert performance with Rick Ross, Little Baby, 21 Savage and a few others. 

Big mates. He's a drug kingpin. He's not a performer, those. 

I don't know who's gonna do a concept and then the concert got cancelled. So $0.50. 

See if I can find him on LinkedIn. 

$0.50 started a GO fund me for big me. 

For big Mace, what for? To give you the money from the concert. 

And on migrate the. 

Description on the GO fund me says big mate. You Co founded the notorious organisation the Black Mafia family was released from prison. Late last year, Meech came home with plans for a big homecoming concert, but unfortunately the event was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances and he needs help paying his bills. Any help will be much appreciated. 

Well, well. 

Say I don't. Yeah, I probably wouldn't mess with big Meech. 

Did you? He's pretty. This is the same dude. He's the same dude. Didn't he buy, like, did he buy? 

This is what he does. This is. He does. Instagram sets up Gofundme's and chases, chases lawyers for money. 

Didn't he? In a general called the 1st 10 rows of a Ja Rule concert you said, yeah. 

A jarrell yes. The 1st 10 rows. Yes. Yes, he did something to Gaul as well. Other he's a very busy guy and it's. 

Well, that's awesome. Yeah, I I do like that. A new number one over in Australia. 

Amazing. Go give him a. I do like. 

Need you. 

You're almost. Here nothing. 

Almost here almost here Brian McFadden and Delta Goodrum. 

Uh. 

Jelta there are a couple at this stage, don't. 

No, they were not. 

Oh, what? 

This is where it all started. This song is from. Brian Brian with an I because it was Brian with a Y and then he left. What was it? Westlife. And then he became Brian with an eye. So now he's Brian with an eye. 

Yeah. 

And he changed it. He dropped the wire out at night. Different Brian. Same Brian, different. Y or I OK? Yes, good. Same different shovel. 

Spelling different spelling. 

New spelling. New me. Spelling out of the boy band. So spend more time with my wife and kids and now I've left my wife and now I've released an. Brian. A knife with delta? Well, he's well. He's released a single with Delta and his single was on his debut studio album, Irish Sun. It was also on her second studio album, Mist. So they both put it on their albums. Great. Fantastic. 

OK. Yeah. You got joint custody of the song. 

Released as a single in the UK on the 31st of January and here in Australia on the 7th of March and we obviously liked it so much the next week and put it to number 1. So this is where our delta and Brian with. 

Yes. 

I so met. 

This. 

Is where. 

Recording the single wow. 

Started. 

This. 

Is where they met. Ryan's just split up with his wife, who he wanted to spend more time with, which is why he left West life and changed the Y to an I. But apparently that that. 

Uh. 

Work. For just split and Delta's just finished her relationship with the poo cause apparently there's one of the newspapers here in Australia said he was going out of Paris Hilton and that was news to Delta and. 

Tilapisis mark philippousis. Right. 

Then it was all. 

So she cut it off with him, and then and then. So. So they're both single at the same time. They're in the recording studio. 

But they're both. Yes, both newly singles, they sing almost here. It was very breathy. It was very breathy, wasn't it? Felt a bit felt a bit breathy and steamy. No, I thought it felt a bit steamy. 

There's fireworks it. Like they're breaking up in the song. If I'm being honest. There was tension there. There was definitely tension. There's a lot of emotion. I don't have a sexual, but there was definitely. 

A bit of sexual. Sexual tension. They fell in love began dating. 

There talking about sexual tension with our delta. Take it easy. Then, well, I approve of that. I'll. I'll allow Brian to date our delta. 

They began dating shortly after the recording. So. Definitely was some sexual intention. The relationship though yes. Do you remember delta? So what are the what's the UK tabloids? The sun. 

I like the sun and oh, they're all there. Is it like? I don't know, like National Enquirer. That's the one. 

News of the world's news of the world's news of the world. Yeah, there. 

I'm it's like well. 

That's the trashy. 

Yeah, it's like Delta Goodrem. And then aliens. Alien stole my ovaries or something. Yeah. Oh, that's the that's the National Enquirer of the Antique News. Yes. Yes. Crocodile stole my ovaries and sold them to aliens. 

One is it? 

Daily Mail. Yes, that's that's. Anti news no, that's the anti news. Cracker in mclacter. ***** Roo beat me up in the middle of the road. That's what happens in the NT news. That's a great that's a great publication though. 

I'm having this kangaroo baby. Or is it a dingoes? I'm. Sure, we'll. 

But. 

Find out the UK Tablo I think OK is another one in the UK. They hated her. They held they hated delta because they they thought she had ruined that she'd come in between. 

OK. In the UK they didn't like they thought Delta was a home wrecker. 

Because remember, Kerry, she's an Atomic Kitten. 

Yeah. So she's. 

In the biggest girl band over in the UK, he's in Westlife, the biggest boy band. So isn't that just a beautiful romantic story? It's coming together as a girl and the boy band and. 

In. The biggest boy. Oh, it's wonderful. I like pop royalty. Yeah, power couple. 

Reality TV and they're both so beautiful. And then our delta home wrecker. 

Everyone wants it to work. Comes in and just busts it open. I don't think that's fair for delta. I think Delta is often maligned and unfairly. 

Home Wrecker Cross the tabloids. ** *** even said. 

Yeah. Yes. OK. I just, I mean, I'm not. 

I'm still angry. Her for yelling at me on the phone when I interviewed her all these years ago. So I'm feelings. 

Maybe she's, I mean, you know, I don't understand how she put her. 

I did listen to the song she accused me of not listening to the song, and I did listen to the song. 

Yes, and that's your research is sound. So I'm offended on your behalf, but. 

Did listen to this song? Did you even listen to the? Yes, I did delta. 

Just a little bit of empathy. I mean, you know, she's young, she's been doing promo all day. She got some other person on a radio station saying, say, who are your influences, you know? 

I don't think I asked her. 

That, or even if you know what asked. 

They probably didn't. I think he's got more credibility than that. Anyway. I still think she's maligned. Lots of people criticise her when they see her on The Voice and they say very horrible things and now it's not like she's not used to it because back in the day when she was hanging out with Brian McFadden and forged a relationship with him. 

But I did listen to it. Since the most hated woman in the UK, that's what she. 

They were saying horrible things about her then too. So good thing she's got thick skin, I guess, but it's still not nice. And I still think you should be kinder to. 

She said she said in an interview. Me personally. 

No, the royal you like the world. 

OK, good. She. Said. I'm pretty sure I got voted the. Hated woman in Britain one year in. Interview now. 

Well. 

Yeah, that's not nice because they were both single, so. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Just get over it. November 20 November 2007. Sorry. 

Hmm. 

Despite the fact that people were saying that they were over, they got engaged. And then in 2009, they were planning a wedding. Going to go to Bali. 

Oh well, that's. 

It's a braids and some bin Tang for the guests. 

*** **** bin tank singlet for Brian, some braids for delta. 

That's yeah. Delta. I thought you were classier than that. 

Take your Imodium just in case you accidentally get a bit of water in your mouth when you're. 

Having a shower? Yeah, yeah. Rides and jet skis. And what else do you do in bars? Yes, without a helmet. 

Yep, moped. What do you what else do you do? I think generally just work really hard to try and stay clean. I've just got ideas, I have no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone who's Balinese or anyone who's been to Bali, but I just. I don't have. I don't see the attraction. You. 

That there probably is a. 

Bit of faith for it. Don't it just? Yeah, it just feels like. Bogan, Bogan trip. 

I'm not keen on going. Where if you accidentally drink water, which is something I know it's a luxury and we're very lucky to have water and it's clean in this country and whatnot, but I'm not really keen on going anywhere where you drink water and then it makes you **** out your *** for. Next week. I'm not keen on that. I'm sorry. Well. 

It's not like you're invited to the wedding anyway. 

I'm a simple man. I want people to lay off delta and I'm not interested in going to Bali. So as much as I love you delta, I'm going to have to turn down the invite, I'm afraid. 

Delta and Brian. Specifically said, you're not invited. Not invited anyway, so. Doesn't matter, right? Not for me. Well, it didn't happen. The marriage never happened. The relationship fizzled out, and I think. It was 2011 when they finally, publicly ended their relationship. That was the end. 

Oh, I'm lucky. 

Yes. 

In love as as he's the case with most of these famous people. Hey, let's talk about an album I like. I kind of liked it. It's the second studio album from a band called Trivium and the album title was ascendancy, and it featured this song. Called. Dying in your arms. 

I want to save you. That's telling me. 

It I I really like Trivium in that when they first made it quite big they were very young. They were like silver chair, young almost really. And they were playing very complex metal when they wore their hearts on their sleeve and they are very influenced by bands like Metallica and a lot of the thrash bands that I grew up with. So it was really cool seeing a bunch of. Kids come out and release well, this is their second. I'm a bit older here. They're probably getting into their 20s and whatnot. Here, I say what? Not a lot these days. And I feel like that's just a symptom of getting old. 

Very. That's very boomer, isn't it? What not? 

Yes, so sorry about that, but. I do. I do. I do like them in the in that they they probably. 

Or. 

A little bit younger than me, but they were very heavily influenced by the same sort of music that I like. So they put that album out and it was really good. It was the first album that they had to feature guitarist Corey Bolio and bassist Paulo Gregoletto, but the real driving force behind. Trivium is the singer, guitarist Matt Heffe. He's fantastic and he was saying that some of the songs are about a lot of his personal insecurities and social issues and disorders, and he's he's really down to Earth guy Matt Heavy. I had to. I had to. I met them. Remember I met them when we went to Soundwave. 

Issue. 

And now playing its sound wave and I wanted to go to Utopia, the record store after Soundwave. And they were doing an Instore there and I wasn't like I'm kind of I was kind of like footing both camps like I've heard this stuff. I like it. I'm not really a massive fan. I certainly would have gone to the in store or gone out of my way. And then I was like the only way I can get in there was to buy their record and have. 

Oh yes, that's right. 

Sign it and as I was going through, I was like, look, I haven't heard it yet, but I've heard good things. But they were really nice. They were really nice guys and this one I'd heard and I'd heard pretty good things as well. So anyway, they put it out and good luck to them. 

Oh, good. That didn't take offence. 

The. 

Hitch is still #1 here in Australia at the box office. 

Wow, how boring. Yeah, we wait. 

So you must have really liked Will Smith. 

I think, well, everyone liked Will Smith back in, you know, 2005. 

Did that stage. 

We're trying to remember. Remember, we're trying to remember his song. 

Hadn't put a foot wrong yet. Hmm. 

That, eh? It's called switch. Switch. 

But it was from the film. Hitch wasn't. 

It I don't know, but we couldn't remember the song of it. The the song of it. The name of it. The name of the song. 

I felt like you. I felt like you actually did clarify. 

That no, I remembered it the other day when I was driving and I was like, switch. It's called switch. 

Did you? Don't you hate it when that happens? It's like when you get insulted and then you think of the cut back about an hour later and you're like, *** ****, I wish I was quicker witted than that. 

I'm feeling really good to say back here. I don't know what's happening. Yes. Oh well. 

OK. So hitch number one in Australia, US has got this big animated film with a humongous cast. 

Us. 

I'm going to Robot City. I'll make you proud. They're coming. 

Comes a time in a young person's life. 

What? Perfect. That'll be 50 bucks. 

When he must show everyone. 

Yeah, I loving it. Loving it. Loving it. Want any pictures? 

Well, that's all right. There's no film in the camera. Would you like to buy maps of the stars? Homes? Where do you go? 

Luanne McGregor property Rodney copper bottom. 

I get hurt. 

Everyone. Rodney's here. The Ronster, Halle Berry. 

Oh. 

That was an accident. I meant to do this. 

Greg Kinnear, so long son. Good luck with your dastardly plans. 

Bye, pops. 

Mel Brooks. Hey, who's the Dame with the sweet keister? 

Be careful. Oh, man, this is my third oil change today. 

Great. 

Amanda Bynes. 

The names Piper Rhymes with Piper. 

And Robin Williams. 

Alright. Smack you if I had. A hand. 

Speaker the devil here. I. 

Come. 

Wow. 

Robot. 

It's funny. 

Why is she called Aunt *****? 

Couldn't call her aunt Booty. 

Wow. 

Whoops. 

See like that is a stacked cast and then you put Robin Williams like the absolute icing on the cake. He's so fabulous in animated films like you always think about Aladdin and he's the OG Genie and like, you can't. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

Do the genie without Robin Williams and he was great in robots as well, and Ewan McGregor was in there. You heard all the cast huge, Halle Berry, Greg Kinney. An inventor robot named Rodney Copper Bottom, which was Ewan McGregor, seeks his idol Big World. Who is voiced by the great Mel Brooks? I mean, my God, you got Robin Williams. Mel Brooks. Same thing. He works for his company, Robot City. But then there's this big plot that happens where the new leader Ratchet, which is Greg Kinnear and his mom. They have to upgrade it and eradicate all the struggling robots, known as out mods, and of course copper bottom, I think was in out mode or Robin Williams. Anyway, $260 million, nearly 261 million if I if we want to round it up. 

Hmm. 

Worldwide, that's pretty good for an animated film. Do you remember? Well, you did the promo for it? Yep. 

Lots of merchandise too. I'm pretty sure there was happy meals and we did. Yeah, we did. Promo for it on the kids show that I worked on and we gave away movie tickets and a giveaway. Dad actually built a little robot statue and sent it in, and I kept it. Do you remember that statue? No. It's filled out of car parts. And it had. 

Yes, spring, yes. 

Springs. And then it had like a little. It was like a dial thing for a head and yeah, it was somewhere in the cupboard. It's very intricate. 

It was very heavy and I I think I dropped it on my foot and it it did draw blood. It was. It's not good. Well, I'm. I'm going to sue. No, that was. Yes, I do remember. 

Yeah, that would have hurt. That would have hurt. They wanted to. They want a movie, pass that entry. But I do remember it there was lots of merchandise and I'm pretty sure there was happy meals or hungry jacks meals and there's lots of toys. 

Is that that that robot that welded together from car parts robot is that one of the most elaborate creations that you've had a kid? To a kids show that you're working. 

Yeah, usually it's just drawings, and I'll never. I would never open the envelopes. 'cause. I'm like some kids. Lick this to stick it down. 

Let's say you get somebody else to get the wealth, experience kid, did you? 

No, I had. I. Had gloves I had like rubber gloves. 

You didn't. To touch the kid lick glue. 

The kid. God, no, gross, gross. And I didn't like touching the drawings too. 'cause. I'm like, they've probably drawn this after they've gone to the toilet and haven't washed their hands. 

Yeah, yeah. And then everything comes full circle and you become a pairing and then you take your kid to the kid. It's pool and get in the water with them so you know, maybe. Maybe if he'd had touched the kiddlick envelopes, he'd have a stronger constitution. Yes. And then? And then you could have gone to Delta or Brian's. 

Yes, it's payback. It's the ultimate payback for wearing gloves. When I opened those envelopes. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, maybe I wouldn't get sick so often. 

In Bali. Let's let's. Well, I'm not gonna be ambushed by musical theatre because I know that we well, we are talking about it. But I knew the ambush was coming, so that doesn't really constitute an ambush. But we do need. 

Well, you are. 

Yeah. OK, good. 

Go. The theatre, which is something we don't really do very often in. The entertainment segment darling is go to the Seattle, get dressed up and put my little bow tie on and I'll get my little monocular, my monocular, so I can look out with one eye and then make sure that I could find my drink with the other. 

Sorry. 

With my monocular. 

OK. 

Okay yeah, spam a lot is a Monty Python musical. It's a good musical theatre. John Duprez and Eric Idle's musical spam. A lot opens on Broadway, the Schubert Theatre in New York, and it goes for 1575 performances wins 3 Tony Awards. This is the thing that parodies the Arthurian legend, loosely based on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but I think they sing some songs from Life of Brian and stuff in there as well here. Is Babylon. 

And glory seed. Then I do have 4 tables. 

I. 

It was a pretty big deal when it opened, so Spamalot is is a nod to the Monty Python spam sketch. As we said before, the story follows the Holy Grail movie very loosely. 

Hmm. 

There's things like killer rabbits and touring Frenchmen, and the musical number about always looking on the bright side of life. Like I said from the Life of Brian, which they took as well. But the original cast had Tim Curry, the great Tim Curry as King Arthur. It had Hank Azaria of Simpsons fame as Lancelot. I mean, my goodness, like, why wouldn't you go and see it? 

Mm. Hmm. Oh, ******** Monty Python fans felt it was too polished and showbiz oriented, lacking the raw absurdity of the original film, they said it dulled the edgier humour in favour of more traditional Broadway style musicals. 

I did see that. 

Erik Erik or the boss responded, though by saying, well, that's the point. We're making fun of. Broadway well-being a Broadway show, you idiot. 

Which is a very Monty Python thing to do, and I would argue that it also opens them up to a much bigger audience. So. 

Was some controversy, though, in 2013. 

Yes, indeed that like people not liking it, was not the only controversy. And when we say not like it, I mean don't forget 3 Tony Awards, 1575 performances, people showing up. You don't do that many performances if people don't buy tickets to come and see what you do, correct. 

Yes. 

But the controversy was Monty Python member Mark Forster, who was a producer on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, sued the group over royalties from Spamalot. He argued that he was owed a larger share of the profits since the show was based directly on the film he helped produce. 

Yes. 

Case goes to court. He wins, leading to an 800,000 LB payout from the remaining pythons. Which led to financial issues for them, ultimately pushing them to reunite for their 2014 one down, 5 to go live show in order to pay the legal costs. 

That's right. Pay for the Lego wheels so the other reason they reformed was to cover their lawyer, which again is a very multi party thing to do. 

To pay their bills. 

Very Monty piper. 

Okie Dokie, video games. There was a video game released. 

This week there was and the intro. 

Oh. 

Very apartment. Because it's the retro Atari classics on Nintendo DS. 

This is cause the Nintendo DS was only launched very recently. 

But it just nods. Well, I didn't. 

Isn't that he? 

Just came to Australia. It was launched end of last year over. 

And you're a few months in and you're already doing the retro game thing. See, this doesn't I don't know. 

Because it's the older people that are using it. 

So they want to play the games that. 

They look at. 

Older people. But they were you. They played at the fish and Chip shop or waiting for their. 

Were, yeah, all right. 

Dollars tips. 

Well, this is this is all the Atari games, so I remember these cause there was a few months when I was a kid that somebody lent my dad their Atari console, which was then hooked into our TV, and we had. 

Lent it to your dad. 

Atari 2600 in the House. For I don't know, it felt like longer than probably what it was. 

Why would someone lend their Atari to your dad? 

Or maybe they're going away or something and they lended to us and we got to play it. We got to play it. We had the game. It was wonderful, though, like how wonderful is a. 

Thinking you'd look after it while we go away. That's just weird. Kid would not lend. My Atari to your dad. What? 

Why not? Because he'd look after it. He didn't. He wouldn't even touch it. 

You don't think hurry. 

Let's lend her a tie. 

Well, I wouldn't lend my gaming console to anyone these days, but I mean, there's far more riskier because you're connected to everything and you logged in and then all of a sudden, you know, your credit card dates, people are buying games and you don't even know. 

No, it's the arts. Anyway, well, what? 

Buying new skins in Fortnite and whatnot? That didn't happen back in the day, the Atari two 2600, and when that console was in my house for that short amount of time I played pitfall. I played Space Invaders missile command all. 

What did you plan? It's what happens. 

But it was wonderful and in hindsight I like when I look back at it. As an adult, I was very young at the time I was. I only lived in that town for like 2 years where we had. So the. 

Person that lent the guitar is your dad didn't even know your dad for longer. Two years. 

It's risky. 

I'm not entirely sure. While he had a really stable piece of purer the community, he worked for the bank. So you know, you can trust those people, right? 

That's risky. Diaries are expensive. Two, no need to know someone longer than she is to lend your attiree. 

OK, anyway lot like but, but we that's what I mean. Like I was there for a short period of time and we had that console in the head. 

You're very lucky. You're very lucky. Happened. 

House and I, I can't really place at my age as to how long we have the console in the House for, but I do remember I played it a lot and as a consequence it feels like we had it there for quite a long time. But you know how? 

Do you swing your swipe? Longer. 

Let me finish. Sorry. When you when you look back on things as an adult, like time goes by a lot quicker. When you're younger, you leave. Tool and everything's little and things are bigger and so time felt like longer. So I felt like we had that console for years and that's the end of that story. But this game was an Atari retro game, which is the point that I was getting to. Well, I wasn't really getting to it. I was diverging for the point. You may have been interjecting to try and get me back on task and I obviously didn't read any of the signs. But we're here now. 

I think we've got an Atari ad from a long time ago, which is just lovely. Can you play that? 

In reference to the OK, you're right. 

Shush, just play. 

It we down deep inside of the female, there's a little boy. An atomic without any doubt. 

The boy will come out when he. He played the game. Be have you played Atari today? 

You have a man in Atari game, and he'll turn into a little boy, but don't worry, it'll be grown up enough to share it. 

Mother. 

I remember that. 

I thought. I wasn't going to get ambushed by musical theatre in this show. 

Before we play the cherry today. 

Having played Atari today. 

Yeah, it's a good. That is a lovely ad. It's a lovely ad. 

Isn't it? Isn't it? 

Very good. 

Games that were featured on the Retro Atari Classics pong, of course. Breakout. 

That's like the first ever game. It's just like the second ever game. That's a great love asteroid. Still play asteroids. Centipede was also a very good game. Not really sure of gravitar. I think Gravitar was like a second tier game. 

Asteroids. 

IDs. 

Avatar haven't played that. Lunar Lander plates? Yeah, that was. 

No. Lunar Lander was difficult. I didn't mind. 

Miss our commands. I don't think I played that. What's that one? 

I loved missile command. That's the one where the the the bombs are coming and you have to shoot the bombs. But then the bombs split and then you have to shoot. Of. Bombs. Stressful and you have to. Your base Sprint what? I'm I'm not sure, but I think yeah. And yeah, Sprint Tempest to allots. No, no idea that. 

Run and game. Sort of. Anyway, it was out was out this. 

Yeah, it was. It was. And it was an Atari thing and. 

20 years ago. Outside. 

Yeah, really good guitar and stuff. 

We should probably get it these days. Think I'd like to play. 

That you know the thing. With the retro games so this this is. Oh yeah, I remember back in the day in these retro games and then you play modern games and modern games are amazing, right? Modern video games are amazing, and then you get nostalgic. It's a little bit different to the podcast, hopefully because I really hope that this isn't the desired effect. When you listen to us talk, because when you play those retro video games and you go back and they clunky graphics and then you realise it's like you can't. 

Hmm. 

Kind of move the way you want to and do the things you like. This is. 

It. 

I like that. I loved jumping on the Game Boy and playing Mario World, Mario World 2. The muscle memory was still there. I remembered all the secret rooms I remembered when to jump and eat the mushrooms and all that stuff and land on the turtles. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Yeah. 

Yes. Yeah. You like you like being hamstrung by old technology? 

It was so fun. I loved it. 

Good for you. 

Pretty much pretty much. 

The. 

Oh, I knew we'd get here eventually. Yes, kind of meandered. We. We did meander a little bit, but. 

How many people would have heard that clue at the start and thought I have no idea who that birthday is. I am going to listen to all of this science, all of this other musical theatre stuff. 

I'm going to feed my brains. 

This. 

Thing here, put up with it all just to find out who that was. 

Well, if I you know if I get all of that stuff might boost my IQ and I might something might happen, I might actually find out who. That celebrity was that was having a birthday this time 20 years ago. Well, I'd well it is their birthday. See, I do that all the time. That said this. 

I. 

No, ****** me. I wonder who that was. If he said Scatman John. The stat man you would be correct. 

John Paul Larkin, I do have to apologise to John. Larkin, because. 

Why is that? 

I do remember this coming on at Mooseheads and it was one that used to come on probably. I'll say. 2:30 in the morning, so towards the end of towards the end of the night, but not quite the end of the night. Wasn't like, you know, when the lights come. 

You could set your once to. 

And you're like, oh, God, yeah. See you later. 

Yeah, those were the days. Remember being out of 2/3. 

I. 

Ready. Yeah. OK, but that's not. That's not not over either. That's like, let's get a pizza somewhere and pick up. 

No, no. It's usually about 3 or 4 that you left in residence. So 230 is not quite closing time. No, it's not. But that that would always come on. And I'd always leave the dance. 

Yeah, yeah. 

I just had a problem. With **** man. But I like it now. Yeah, I do. 

You're a ****. Well, be careful how you phrase that. Yeah, 'cause. There's, like ****, which is like the whole like, you know. 

Oh. 

Fat. And then there's the other ****. Yeah. Which is the what? The neighbours. Cats leave in my. That's. No, it's what the neighbours. Cats leave when I'm *** **** yard all the time. Really nice. 

Yes, which I didn't. I didn't know about that until you explained it to me. That was this. Wow. 

I think I. 

Used Scatman John in an assignment uni I did actually. 

Really. Really. And you graduated. 

I played a. 

Clip of Scatman John, I don't know what the assignment was. Yeah, I passed. Oh, good. I asked everyone to join. 

Excellent. 

His birthday is on the 13th of March. He started out as a jazz pianist and vocalist for several decades. Didn't really go anywhere. It was a bit of hardship. He was, you know, doing a few gigs here and there, but not really breaking through at all. 

Oh yeah. 

It's like a basket basically, right? 

Yeah. 

Like you know. 

Yeah, pretty much. And when he was a kid, he struggled with a really severe stutter and he used gap singing as a way to turn his speech impediment into an asset. 

Oh. 

Well, that is very impressive. 

So he's playing piano. He's scatting around. Nothing much happening, so he moves to Germany in the early 90s and. 

Hmm. Are they big into **** in Germany? 

And producers convinced him to mix his **** singing with dance music. 

Y Oh yes this. 

That's I'm a man. Watch it with you teasing any politician reasons with strategy, defeating the factor, the state of the condition insults my intuition, and it only makes. Feel. Everybody thought of one way of the other to. Out my message to you. As a matter of fact, let's. Up and hold your back. It's Scatman can do it, brother. So can. I'm the scatman. 

Oh, that song is all. I've just listened to the lyrics. I didn't realise it's all about getting over stuttering. Yes. Yeah. 

Now yes, yes. Isn't that lovely? 

It is, it's. 

Good. That is very German too, isn't it? That dance? That's dance. Yeah. So, no, the, the dance music, the dance. 

The nice music. Stats I thought we covered that, but yeah. Oh, yes, it's OK. 

In the in the. In the background, if our listener from Hess is listening is that is that yeah. Tell us about it. What it was like over there in Germany in the early 90s. ****. 

The techno Viking, yes. 

Yeah. 

John scatting. He recorded 5 albums released between 86 and 2002, but the one you played there Scatman scabby butter, butter. Massive hits. 

Good job. That's the only one that I know. 

Released in 94. Oh, scatman's worlds. Scatman's World was on like hit machine 14. It's in the sheds. Oh, welcome to **** Man's world. Yeah. Pretty similar. Pretty similar. 

Good. OK. 

Cool. 

Outside of his musical activities, he established the Scatland Foundation with the purpose of furthering research of and educating the public on stuttering. 

Oh, good 'cause. It was a research on ****. I mean. Well, that's important too. But I'm glad that he went that way because he had. 

He he was a recipient of the American Speech Language Hearing Association's Award for Outstanding service to the Stuttering Community and a posthumous inductee into the National Stuttering Association Hall of Fame, posthumous. 

Kid. Yeah, OK, good. Yes. 

Yes. Oh, he died. He died. 

In, when did he die? 

He died at home in LA. He had lung cancer and he released his third and final album. 

Ah. 

Take your time and then shortly after went into intensive treatment and. 

It's not a good output title when you've got a terminal illness. Take your time, really. 

No died at home in 1999 at the age. Of 57. RIP Bada bada Bo, yeah. 

Only 57. You know what's funny? Is like he's 57 and like obviously like. The well, maybe it's not funny, but he's 57 and he's. He. 

Sounds older. He always looked really old as well. Do you remember what he looked like? He was kind of, you know, he had the moustache and. 

Yeah. 

Was in a. He was very fancy. 

I think that's like that whole, like golden girl phenomena. Do you know what I mean? Like these days, like these days? Yeah. 

He looks a lot older than what he was. Yeah. When they put the long hair on The Golden Girls 'cause, I think I'm as old as The Golden Girls were when I. 

Bit like bit. 

Watching them. 

Like The Golden Girls back when The Golden Girls were The Golden Girls. Yeah, of the same age as us now or same age as like Jennifer Aniston now, but everyone looks different. 

Age as men probably, yeah. 

Hmm. It's the hair. It's the hair. 

You reckon it's just the hair? 

Because yeah, it's the it's the short perm set hair. Yeah, and the pedal bushes. Give them the long hair and the different. Like today's makeup. Yeah. Yes. 

Really. That's what you think it is. 

Have done that. Have you not seen the things where they've put the long hair on? And. 

Oh, yeah, well, yeah. But that's the thing, I. 

Their makeup. And you're like, oh. 

Mean it? He could throw a purple rinse on a 20 year old and they'd look about 80, wouldn't they really? 

Potentially. 

Yeah, I still don't know what to do about this. 

Do you? 

Know what I'm saying? 

Like get a bee, Arthur. 

I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I can't even. I mean, oh, let's not get into that. Let's just say that we've reached the end of. Show. Yes, not make it a therapy session and maybe, maybe we'll continue it next week if you will have us. 

It's. 

That'd be really nice. We we love your support. We really do. It means the world to us. Having subscribers is like. 

OK. 

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The air that we breathe and and without those subscribers or without you listening, this podcast receives no air, and it dies. It dies, much like Scatman John. So please tell your friends. We'll, we'll see you next week. We love you. Come and find us on the socials. Facebook, Instagram. Tick tock. 

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Boom, boom over there and you might end up in the boom box next. 

Yeah. 

Week. What's your name? 

Don't forget, I mean, I feel like that segment's yet to take off, but I feel like we've made some really good inroads. 

I think that. Think we've got plenty of content just from ourselves. 

And we. And we'd love you to show us your. So with that in mind, have a great one. We'll see. Next week. 

Yeah, yeah. 

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