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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
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Time lords, breakup anthems & the birth of an angry god. Rewind to 20 to 26 March 2005: Doctor Who regenerates for a whole new era, Kelly Clarkson gifts us the greatest pop-rock breakup anthem, Kratos unleashes mythological fury and BP faces disaster
🌍 The Fukuoka earthquake shakes Japan—an unexpected 6.6 magnitude tremor devastates Genkai Island, leaving one dead and over 1,000 injured. Aftershocks continued for months, proving nature doesn’t always follow the schedule.
🔥 The BP Texas City Refinery explosion—one of the worst industrial disasters in U.S. history. A hydrocarbon vapor explosion kills 15, injures over 180 and sparks billions in lawsuits, fines and a PR nightmare for BP.
🤖 Expo 2005 opens in Japan, bringing futuristic tech, humanoid robots and… a frozen woolly mammoth?
🚀 Doctor Who returns after 16 years, with Christopher Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor and Billie Piper as Rose. Timey-wimey adventures are back and the show is about to become bigger than ever.
🎮 God of War debuts on PlayStation 2, introducing Kratos, Greek mythology and the angriest gaming protagonist ever. The birth of a franchise that would later become PlayStation royalty.
🎵 Kelly Clarkson’s Since U Been Gone smashes onto the charts, giving us pop-rock perfection.
🎬 The Ring Two tops the U.S. box office, because apparently, people weren’t done being terrified by creepy VHS tapes.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo t -. 20. Rewind 20 years with Joe.
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20 March 2005.
A -, 20. Hi. What do you think? This is the talk show?
It's an icebreaker. Don't judge me yet. This is bananas.
Do you see where this is going? My question is who approved?
Not really.
Hello and thanks for joining us on the little podcast that likes to rewind to this week. In history 20 years ago with your host Joe and the other one that needs no introduction.
Me, Mel. Hi. Yes, we are talking all things that were happening 20 years ago in movies, music, news, sport, popular culture.
Hello. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been good. If you've been playing like pop culture jeopardy like I have, because suddenly I'm so old that I've taken an interest in game shows. And the best thing about game shows these days is they're on demand, which is great because I.
All kinds of stuff.
Yes.
Banding. Yeah, this will hold you in good stead. This will give you some homework, some brownie points when you play your next finger pop culture jeopardy.
Some yes, it will help you out. We're rewinding this week to the week of the 20th to the 26th of March in 2005.
That hysteria is not for a rock star or anyone famous. It's not crazy. Crowds at an airport or anything. It's people reacting to the movement of tectonic plates. And there was a lot of tectonic movement this time. 20 years ago. We'll find out more about that in the news.
It starts as a normal day at one of America's biggest oil refineries. 1800 people are busy at work.
You know when something starts with it starts with a normal day that it's not going to be a normal day.
No, and it's not going to end well. Gentlemen speaking and it didn't.
No, and it it did not. It was a very messy accident and an oil refinery in Texas, one of the biggest in history, which we will discuss.
On March 25th, 2005, a World Exposition like no other, a new idea for a global society, will be born amid the lush natural surroundings of the eastern heels of Nagoya.
A world exposition.
Oh, the Expos. I love an Expo. I love it when the world puts on the the best of the best. And we can say what all the countries have to offer in these little pavilions. Amazing.
Yes.
Yeah. Yes, well, this one went to the future because it went to Nagoya in Japan and.
That'd.
But mate, there's.
Be a good Expo.
There's a lot of stuff happening in Japan. We'll get to all of it in the news very soon.
The.
But in the meantime.
Another. Event. I can get behind because I I think back to my days. I used to love going out. I used to love going to the clubs. Yeah, the R. B clubs didn't.
Uh huh.
It you've had to be in the right.
Doof plus knock around all those joints. Yeah. You knew it was a good night. If you ended up in.
Had to be in the right mood. Pop music.
South. At the end of the night.
Yes.
Yes, getting a jug of rum and.
Yes, yes, that was an interesting time.
Hmm.
Loved a nightclub, but at this point in life. I'm like, I'm too old for that.
Absolutely. Oh my God.
2 olds I just embarrassed myself and it's too late, but something that I think I can get behind this new thing that's kind of started up in the last year or so is the matinee club, as opposed to the the nightclub.
The matinee club.
It's where they have a nightclub that runs from, say, you know, four in the afternoon till 10 pm, 10:00 PM's probably. A little bit too late, to be honest. I'd probably leave at about 8:00.
That's why too late, 10:00 PM too late. Yeah.
But isn't that lovely? They've they've been doing them across Canberra. There was one, I think at Mooseheads recently and they called it. It says get loose at moose. Go snooze our first ever over 30s Day Club event so they've realised anyone over.
Well, is is this because there's a generational shift? And is it because the current generation that are in the clubs and stuff don't really drink much, they just kind of go there and party there a little bit more. They've got, they've they've got a social conscience.
Is tired. Potentially.
Yes.
They're a bit more savvy, they're a bit more self aware.
Not buying drinks by the jug.
I'd no I'd say they're very self aware because they don't want to end up on, you know, some viral video the next day. Yeah, all of that sort of stuff. So maybe it's more profitable.
We used to.
Like us.
Yes.
To start promoting it to people who want to relive the hedonistic old days.
It has become a bit of a nostalgia thing. The old night clubs, a lot of them are putting things on, there's reunions and all kinds of stuff happening and and people are kinda thinking back to the the old, the old nightclub days where you used to queue up around the corner and you'd wear your stamp like a badge of honour. You'd go into work the next day and whoever had the most stamps.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
The night clubs was like the coolest.
Uh. To be honest with you, I never got into many of them. So I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. It wasn't until I started working at a radio station that I was allowed.
Well, with those shoes? No, no.
Really. But as a punter, I had no chance. No chance whatsoever. Not in these shoes. Yeah, well, on the subject of those reunions, there was that big thing. I think it's already happened at time of recording, I think it's already happened.
Yeah, the you had to host things. Lot of others are changing, yeah.
Yes.
But they were talking about remember the private bin, which was Canberra's most famous nightclub where you'd walk up the stairs and there'd be sticky ice go to comedy club there, which was pretty good. But the carpet.
That was what we had walked down the stairs to.
It's slow. Yeah, it was. But it was upstairs. But then there was a.
Are those upstairs been and downstairs been? And then upstairs been became. Doof doof club. Years later. Yeah.
Is that right? Well, you'd walk up the stairs and on the stairs and have a sign. Say the most beautiful girls in Canberra found at the private bin. It was. Didn't it? It was a bit.
Creepy. The private bin for me because it was the club that was always open. The latest. MMM. So he'd finish at all your other clubs.
Hmm. Yeah.
And downstairs bins, the only one I went to because upstairs is always closed. So I that's where I would end up every time, because that was the last thing that was. You'd go. Downstairs bin until the lights came on. Wasn't that an adventure when the lights came?
Yeah. And it was well, yeah. And then it'd be like 5:00 AM or something.
And you go. Oh, that's who I've been dancing for these last years songs.
Can't actually say, can't actually say that I went through a lot of that stuff, but. It's back. They're bringing it back. So in when we're talking about, there's the private bin, which was a Canberra institution, that they had a throwback party in early March earlier this month and they were saying that they were gonna embrace the inner retro. They're gonna have eighties, 90s dress code prize for the King and queen of the bin, best dressed, all of that. Sort of.
What? Hmm.
They did it from 8:00 at night until the early hours, so that was they kicked on. They did it like in the old days. And they had the one of the resident DJs from the original private bin as well. And they were serving cocktails like B50 twos and flaming Lamborghinis and whatnot. Maybe there's sex on the beach. There's probably a fruit tingle there.
Oh man. Yeah. Wow.
Fruit tingles, fruit tingles. That fills 90s.
And always like that. It's definitely a very much a let's relive the the golden era, you know is.
Like don't know how golden it was, to be honest.
Mate Canberra nightclub in great again. Everybody wants to make things great again and relive you. But the thing about that I see, I don't think the private bin really passes the pub or the club test in this day and age.
I do, yeah.
And I I do that because it was like the place to be, and it was always packed. And it was a bit of a pick up joint. You cannot deny that it was a pickup joint.
Well, that's why you get. That's why you go there at the end of the night, because if you hadn't picked up at any of the other nights clubs.
You got the beans.
It was. Last ditch attempt. It was your last chance at the bin.
To pick up the bin, yes. Yes.
And the lights had come on, and he'd never know what you were gonna get, really. Because it's very dark in there. The lights come. And you're like you're like.
Go to bed with someone from the private bin and wake up with a dumpster fire. It was, but The thing is, is this is I I think this is dangerous and I don't think that it does pass the test because there was no social media. There was none of these things and it's in the name.
Oh, sure.
Private, private. You don't want people seeing how you were or what you were like. I mean, go have a great time. But I would be putting the phone in the back pocket. Or even better, they should. I think that's AI. Think that's a really great idea. I think that's a great idea. I'd like if you've got a smartphone, if you've got the old Nokia, that's fine. 'cause, you can just text someone, you know if.
Maybe they? Take. Off you and put it in a safe. The way in? Yeah. Bring it 3210. No problems.
Sit there playing snake oil, watching the handbags while the girls dance, but but just it, private is the keyword here, people. Private is the keyword and a big shout out to Susie Q, who made me aware of the the private being reunited as well.
Oh yes, yes, indeed. And and also that back in the day, you know, going to the private bin and then you'd catch the bus home and you'd go straight to work. Kids these days, soft.
Soft. We're a tough bang, then it's good to be killed by conventional, but they wouldn't need it.
Soft these days, they'd call in sick. I don't have work. They don't.
They didn't need my.
Even have to I can.
Out. Work. Am I going?
Out clothes. They don't even need to call in sick. These edges, like I'm working from home today. Oh, yeah. Working from home. Right. Oh, cool. Alright. It's time for the hatchet match and dispatch clue. Which is the little thing that. Right now that we then hook back to at the end of the podcast, it's a celebrity that's either been born, got married, or died. What have we got? The arts. It's not a dispatch, it's a well, it's not a match either. It's an unmatched.
A conscious, a conscious uncoupling. What we were calling them in the early 2000s.
It's a divorce. It's none of the above. It's none of what I mentioned, but it's it's a divorce. Yes, a celebrity who was unmatched with their other celebrity. Half that said this.
It's not match day match.
Yes.
I don't find it painful. I think it's a narrative that follows you because it's an interesting headline. It's it's more of a. Media driven topic.
That's easy. That's amazing one.
When it was. Was a media driven uncoupling to this one. It was big news, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if you know who it is, you can just switch off the podcast right now. But if you don't.
Yeah, don't worry about it.
You gotta stick around to the end of the show.
20 March 2005 we had the Fukuoka earthquake striking just near Fukuoka, Japan, a magnitude 6.6 earthquake with its epicentre at the genghisi, about 6 kilometres northwest of Genkai Island and off the coast of. Our depths of nine kilometres or 56 miles.
And in case you need an explanation, that's to. Why? Was a recording of the actual earthquake taking place at the school. It was it was quite big. There was a lot of tectonic movement. We've just had the Boxing Day tsunami a few months ago. Now there's earthquakes in Fukuoka, Japan. There was one death at this one and over 1000 injuries and aftershocks continued for months with a strong magnitude of 5.8 aftershock on the 20th of April in 2005. They didn't really expect this because there was no seismic activity recorded in the area for over 100 years, so it really surprised them. And there was a fair bit of damage because the, you know, 100 years, there's a lot of old buildings and a lot of older structures there. And that Genkai island, I think, was one of the hardest hit. They lost homes. They had landslide. I think it was about 200,000 buildings that had sustained damage and that was residential and commercial. And then of course, you have all the infrastructure stuff, transportation, utilities being disrupted, no power, no water, all of those sort of things and probably a bit of pollution with the water as well.
The government and local authorities quickly mobilised emergency services. They had evacuations carried out in most affected areas, which is is probably why the the death toll was so low.
There were.
Construction efforts and repairs that took over several months, particularly in the heavily damaged areas. And it remains one of the most significant seismic events in Fukuoka's history, highlighting the need for improved earthquake preparedness in areas that aren't traditionally considered high risk.
Yeah, it was. Well, I, but like Japan have are no strangers to earthquakes. I mean they they sort of pioneered that earthquake proofing building.
Hmm.
Stuff. That's this is me. This is I just put my engineer hat on. Then I clearly know what.
I'm talking about it starts as a normal day at one of America's biggest oil refineries. 1800 people are busy at work. Without warning, a massive explosion rocks the plant. The blast is felt 8 kilometres away. Dozens of people are injured, 15 are dead. A desperate rescue operation gets underway. America's worst industrial disaster for 15 years shatters a close knit community.
Kind of that grab just basically tells the whole story. So on to the next set. No, that was the BP Texas City refinery explosion that occurred as they said on the 23rd of. Much in Texas, it was the, and like the grab says, one of the worst industrial accidents in U.S. history. 15 people dead, over 180 injuries.
The cause was a massive hydrocarbon vapour explosion which was due to a malfunction during the startup of the. ISO. UN units, which is used to boost the octane levels in the gas. It was being restarted after some maintenance and then a splitter tower which apparently separates hydrocarbons, was overfilled with flammable liquid, causing it to boil over.
So.
Not tip too much in there. A relief valve opened because there was too much in there. Venting large amounts of flammable flammable hydrocarbon vapour in the.
Yes.
Yeah, the vapour then found an ignition source which they think was from a running pickup truck or some other equipment which then triggered the massive explosion.
Yeah. Well, they actually figured out further down the track. There's so many videos on how this happened. There are all these little animations and stuff, but. A diesel Ute was a little way away from where all that vapour was and as the air got thicker and thicker with the. Vapour. So the diesel Ute was running right? It was running and then and so and so some guys actually saw that the Ute was running and they could hear it actually cuz so it was pulling through the intake in the diesel because it pulls air in. It was pulling in this vapour, this flammable vapour and pushing it through the engine, which caused the engine to just go.
So what's the pick up?
Hyperdrive like perform like it revved really high and they tried to shut it. Off they can the ignition like turn the key, pulled it out and it kept going. And then it started going faster and they ran for it because then it backfired. And when it backfired, that obviously triggered the explosion. So it was sucking in all these vapours and.
Oh my God.
The combustion and the engines going crazy and then it just goes and backfires and the whole thing goes up. It was. Like I said, a massive explosion like up to 200 feet away. There's debris. A lot of workers are in, in portable trailers that were near the explosion that were not built to withstand an explosion, so they were kind of just shredded. You know, it just made a big mess. And as a consequence, because it was an industrial accident, a lot of the lawyers started licking their lips very quickly and just. So there were lots of lawsuits filed against BP by the victims and their families.
The US Chemical Safety Board and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration found that BP had some serious safety lapses, including poor maintenance and safety culture, failure to address previous warning signs, ignoring critical safety recommendations, as well as overcrowded work areas with temporary trailers near these dangerous. They.
Yeah. They did. They made a lot of regulations after this. This was this was they learned from their mistakes. So there was this whole thing about specific vehicles not being allowed within the vicinity and any diesel vehicles needed to have an air intake shut off. And all of that sort of stuff installed. Before they were allowed there, but who left the car running at the anyway? I guess we'll never know. But they were fined a lot of money. It was $21 million, which was a record. But they didn't get that outcome until 2009.
They also had to pay an additional 87 million in fines for failing to correct the safety violation. They then settled thousands of lawsuits with compensation exceeding $2 billion, obviously damaging their reputation and one of the key factors, like you say, in a lot of safety reforms that came about as a result.
Yeah. No longer an employer of choice. Oh, you can move over to some brighter stuff. Let's look to the future. Let's do some technology.
Oh, and it's a technology event. Yes, the world's Fair world Expo.
You got you got earthquakes happening up one end of Japan and then, you know, Ichi Prefecture. You've got the Expo 2005, the World Exposition.
On March 25th, 2005, a World Exposition like no other, a new idea for a global society, will be born amid the lush natural surroundings of the eastern heels of Nagoya. Waiting at the 2005 World Exposition in Ichi, Japan, the First World Exposition of the 21st century are surprises and wonders that transcend the imagination.
Oh.
Expo 2005 Ichi Japan. The lead performers on this stage are each of us.
It's a beautiful music. Yes, I just picture myself lying on the ground in autumn leaves amongst cherry blossoms falling for the tree of the Mount Fuji in the background and some beautiful bird with wonderful plumage, just doing little acrobatics in the sky above me.
Gorgeous.
Pulling. Yes, beautiful.
Stunning. Someone, someone playing a harp? The theme was nature.
Yes.
Wisdom isn't that lovely? I love an XO. I went to World Expo 88. I waited 3 hours to go on.
Did you?
Monorail. Really. Yeah, that was a dumb move, wasn't it?
Wow, that's a long time to wait for a monorail. Hmm.
I know I probably could have done a lot of other things at World XO 88, but no, I waited for the monorail.
I think I think the to be fair, at 1988, the monorail was a big ticket item, but I'm not sure if the big ticket items in 2005. I'd like to think that we'd come a little bit further, especially in Japan, which is basically the future now, yes.
In the rain. We've moved. We'd moved on, we'd moved on. A lot of cutting edge technologies, as you'd expect. Well actually, no, they was a there was a.
Hmm.
Train. The two key to.
Oh, like a maglea. A maglev trains, see.
The.
X yes, yes, that was that was a feature and it it was actually the transport to the Expo. They had humanoid robot.
Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
Demonstrating Japan's leadership in AI and automation, a robot stamped my past in the Japan Pavilion at Expo 88. Robots there.
There will now have gone from stamping passes to just permeating throughout the entire site.
Well, there was a robot orchestra as well. They were playing instruments. They partnered with Toyota, but it was the.
See. Oh. Was the Toyota the Toyota thing right? Yeah.
I remember that.
And then they played the violin and the trumpets. So we are going to be replaced, aren't we? By machines can play the trumpet.
Dave, I'm.
The robot played the trumpet, so you're telling me they've they've. I was gonna say.
The robot played the trumpet. How did we play the grumpet? If it's not breathing, don't need to have a breath. How does it do that?
You've discovered you've invented a robot that can blow back in 2005, and the best that we've done with it is have played playing trumpet at the Expo. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just putting it out there. You've got a robot that can blow.
And also play the violin. Violin's very difficult instrument to.
Play yes or the fiddle depending on which part of the world you're from.
There was interactive digital. Digital fish tanks where you can draw. The drawing would turn into a fish swimming in a virtual aquarium that compared to the blowing robot. That sounds a bit lame to be honest. There was a real an IRL frozen woolly mammoth that came from Siberia. That was the main attraction. So you would have lined up for three hours for that. That was the monorail.
Right.
Augmented reality. That's exciting. That's very exciting.
Of this one.
The frozen woolly mammoth woolly mammoth, hmm.
The movie mammoth, but that's the past, though not the future, so that's confusing.
Yeah, that's what we eat. But I guess it's the fact that they can exhibit it is very exciting.
They had. Transport it from Russia, I think, came from Russia to keep it on ice. The highway from.
Gee whiz, you know. 'Cause you know what happens too? Like, if there's a blackout or whatever, and then your freezer defrost, you gotta Chuck it all out and start again.
It's difficult. But now, oh, how bad would it smell? Yeah, yeah, go ice burning. Like when you ice cream, defrost and then you Reeve freeze.
Yeah, they can mention what? Yeah, that woolly mammoth would be in bad shape. Yeah, be in bad shape. You.
Not.
Try and reconstitute him after you've thought him.
No, but look, it was a good time. There were 120 no 121 countries that went there, 22 million visitors and we even had a pavilion, of course.
Course we did. Australia. What do we have?
We had a boomerang shaped pavilion.
Oh God.
I.
Come on, Ivan, visit the Australian Boomerang Shake Pavilion in it Prefecture, Japan, as part of Expo 2005. We've got so much stuff in there we got 360° multimedia shows called the essence of Australia. It isn't. It showcases landscapes and culture and innovation. You can see things like culture. Where in young boots down to the shops. And stuff on the weekends when you're too busy and Friday Night Football and circle work circle workout in the big paddock out the front of the Boomerang pavilion three times a day. You can't miss it exciting shows with Fords and Holdens. We've also got Aboriginal art, storytelling and music emphasising our deep cultural heritage, even though in 2005 we haven't managed to close the gap, but we'll always lean on them to make. Exhibitions look a bit more an exciting. Let me tell you that koalas and wildlife theme as well. You get to see a bunch of koalas and you can get back in that driving simulation, do some circle work and see how many Roos you can take out with your bull bar on the way home from work. It's all very exciting. Let's not forget the Great Barrier Reef where you can't can swim there because you get stung.
By jellyfish in the hot months and all of that. Sort of.
Basically, everything that conquer come down to the Boomerang pavilion and you can see it. See it first hand and experience what it's like to come to Australia and fear for your life. At World Expo 2005, Bonzer Beauty, Fair Dinkum, you little Ripper flaming heck, stay in the crows. Me dead. We're not here to **** spiders. Get a ******* dog up here. Oh, robbo. Yeah, he's a magic magic. Magic. Where I'm rare, I'm going to that.
Exciting. Yeah, well, it's better than the Daintree Rainforest at World Expo 88, although a snake did pop down and scare me wasn't a real snake.
Hey, Billy.
Oh, it's a fake snake God.
Gave me a Froot. Yeah. Yeah. You sat in, like, a big thing and you went around in the Daintree.
Well, let's go around to music. Let's go around to music. Let's get out of the Daintree and.
Lovely. She was first. OK well.
The chaste.
Should we start with the Australian charts and stick with her, stick with the LZ vibes. It's got a brand new number one by everybody's favourite son, Anthony Kalia.
Oh, the Australian charts. What have we got on the Australian charts?
Oh.
Oh, I didn't know he was everybody's favourite son. I thought like Jimmy Barnes might have been or, you know.
I don't know, it just felt. Oh, I did not know. We all loved Anthony.
Didn't he?
Yeah, I guess he was Australian Idol runner up.
Runner up. We always love the runner up. Nalsie was runner up, Anthony was runner up. Yes, yes. Well, this was a double. It was a. It was a AA side. Rain slash bridge over troubled water. But let's go with rain. That's his song.
He. Oh yeah, it's very Australian obvious, isn't it? OK, what was his song?
Yeah, yeah.
I. Now this song revive pop rock for the mainstream, symbolising female empower. That's. That's another song. I don't know. I'm just reading the notes. What happened with?
This song notes yes, this followed his record-breaking debut. The prayer. Remember the prayer we love the prayer. Who won that actually? Who won that idol? Wrong.
Oh the. Right, yes.
Was that Casey Donovan? Casey Donovan, answer. Donovan. Casey. Casey Donovan. Yes. Not the not the adults star at the moment.
Must have been Casey Donovan. Yeah, it was Casey Donovan, remember? We did a little while ago. Yes. Winner is Casey Donovan. They said he was James Mathers on there we went.
You worked your guts out.
He said that and then they said the winner is Casey Donovan. Everyone.
Yes. Yes, yes. Well, just like being there. That's great. Thank you. Thank you.
Lost their mind. I know it was very visceral. Thank you. It's either that or the Boomerang pavilion. You tell me where you want me to take you next.
Anthony, back to Anthony.
Oh, you want me to take you back to Anthony? I think.
Brand new original song written for his self-titled debut album. He also had a cover of the Simon and Garfunkel Classic, so moved over troubled water so it was a thing. It was released as a AA side single, but it's also on his album. I think he performed it on the idol and everyone was like oh, that's great Anthony good.
Already there. So where you go? Yep.
Take.
Job like great.
So self-titled debut album Hang on a second. Hang on. I just want the self-titled debut album. Hmm. So he hasn't been able to think. He's just called it Anthony Kalia.
Great cover.
I well, I guess it is OK. Sorry. Yes. The cover of bridge over troubled water was I'll circa back to that now. Yeah.
We know who he. Stop people like that. It was widely praised when he sang it on the show, and he probably got lots of 1800 votes. So we've got a well shove that.
On my album as well as AB side is AB side of the single.
Yeah. Well, no, it's a AA thoughts that well, that wouldn't be AB side that'd be.
All right, so the. Fruit. So that's like we just throw as much at the charts and see what sticks. Is that what it is? Yeah, probably.
On the a side, how does that even work?
Rain. Cool.
I'm excited as one of his signature songs. Yeah, I don't think when I think Anthony Collier, I don't think rain. I don't think that's his. I don't even the prayer.
Yes. Signature song I think the prayer was his signature song. Really. It was just that big moment, that big moment with the prayer, I guess.
I think we all enjoyed. That's annoying. Yes. Goosebumps. They're single. Well, the single was big and it helped drive the success of his debut album, Anthony Kalia, which became one of the best selling albums by an Australian Idol contestant. Existence, yes.
Of good in Australia, of course, yes.
Australia. Nowhere else.
No, and remember, it only takes about 5 albums to go platinum here, but just I'm just saying, just say it doesn't take a lot. Uh.
Thank you for putting it in perspective. Let's go to the UK charts next. Should we do that? We've got a brand new number one over there.
Sure.
As well, it's all about. I'm about you, baby.
You it's all.
All. All about you that you. It's all about.
Yesterday you asked.
Me. It's very Brit pop, isn't it? It's very harking back to almost the 60s.
Just a little bit. That's McFly. Would I like?
Hmm.
A pop punk.
All about you? I think so.
Yeah. And they just kinda went unplugged for this and put that out and I think. Did really well was.
One of their biggest hits, well, it was their.
First and only number one was it.
Laces AA sides with a cup.
Father, they did a cover of you've.
Big double. Sides.
Got a friend?
As the as the second thing as the the the double part of a A2. A oh man.
But the other a the second a A a A2 who knows.
A2A1 and A2.
So like you said, that was their first number one single, one of their most beloved songs. It was actually written by Tom Fletcher.
Who's Tom Fletcher?
Wasn't.
Tom Fletcher on home away.
That was Sally Fletcher, wasn't.
It Tom was the dads right to Pippa, Tom. Didn't he die? Pippa's husband? Wasn't that Tom Fletcher?
Sally had a dad, alright, maybe.
Well, Tom Fletcher's joined the fly, Tom Fletcher.
'S in McFly. There's a Tom Fletcher in in McFly. Yes.
Think it was Tom Fletcher. Not the one from home, in a way.
No, and not the McFly from back to the future either, just some British band that, yeah.
Sorry, I just.
Just made me.
It's very confusing, John Fletcher, John Fletcher, not from the caravan park, wrote it as a romantic gesture for his then girlfriend, who's now his wife, Giovanna Falcone.
And a little bit annoying if I'm being honest. Yeah.
Yeah. So.
He wrote it as a gift. Gift gift. Lift for her, but then the band are like oh, that sounds alright. Let's record it. Let's put it in a AA side and and.
Mm.
Tom said. Sure, I don't want to stereotype or typecast people, but I think that Tom Fletcher, if he's gonna go after a chick by the name of Giovanni Valcone. Should really probably make more of a gesture in order to win her favour, especially with the family then writing a an acoustic love song.
Just saying, what have you done for my daughter while I wrote this beautiful song?
I'm ready to slum.
And I went to number one. What more? You.
Want Tommy sleeps with the fishes? That's what happens. That's what happens. What else?
Have we got all right over to the US top five?
I'm sorry.
Three, everybody stand up. Everybody put your hands up. Let's pause. Everybody bounce to me. Some champagne and burn a little. Break this. Fight this.
Let's.
With ferno. Let's go. You're now rockin with a coke.
Sunshine. I wish someone.
Don't you stop? Stop, stop.
You.
Can you? Not do that. That's not so seductive.
That was very good lip syncing to candy shop and make it eyes at my wife across the desk and.
Making eyes during game of shop. You know.
Still got it.
Yes. Well, that's sure if you think so, yes. Hurry, cap, we've got a couple of new.
Yeah, yeah. For one to five or I can start at the top and go down the bottom. Yeah, do that.
Into the into the top right, OK. All right, let's do. Let's flip it on its head. Candy shop, #1, still.
There's as discussed.
Blvd. Of broken dreams.
Hanging in there #2 Green Day. MMM.
This.
Yes, disco inferno still man with the amazing piano.
50 Cent yeah, with the shaking. But the amazing piano I.
Need to go and find the comment. I can't remember what they said. It was something like. That piano iconic, the way it came in, someone was like they were just so amazed by it. And that's the only piano in the whole song. I've got to go. The comment was great. A new entry in at #4 obsession by Frankie J. Featuring Baby Bash and another new entry in at #5.
Yes. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, Kelly Clarkson has entered the chats. Now I am not a pop music guy, but that song is a thing banger. That is a great song.
That is, I think it's one of the most well known iconic songs. Yes, second single from the album.
A karaoke favourite. I think the worst thing about that song though is is you do go to a karaoke night and there'll be a group. Cheeks that sort of get together and and then they've they've had a few in them and they start catwalling to. Since you've been gone and that's that's not a good time.
You've done that on the singstore what? You talking about?
I have been. I have cattle, Walter, since you've. Gone. Well, so I. Am guilty as charged, you know.
When you put the disc in the PlayStation and it's got the startup song, I think since you've been gone was the startup song on one of the. Stuff.
'Cause that that that bit is just, yeah.
Yep, Maggie. I was always too keen to sing, so I'd skip past that part.
Oh, OK.
And the song revived pop Rock for the mainstream. It was a post breakup revenge song symbolising female empowerment.
Yes, on the female empowerment, as I mentioned earlier, I thought that was with The Who was that Anthony Kalia? No, it wasn't. I don't know. One of those people.
I wasn't listening.
Pink and Hillary Duff were actually offered the song first, but both of them turned it down and then Kelly took it. But I think she changed it around to put her own. Sort of.
Really.
On it and I think this is where we saw a bit of a turning point in her career and her kind of going off and doing her own signature style as opposed to because she was quite poppy off the back of American Idol. But this is where she started to get really.
Yeah, it rockia.
Rocky and you could really, you know, the the vocals and she's quite gritty and and just.
So didn't you do it live at the Vma's and it rained on stage or something or I don't know, did I imagine that? Did I dream that I might have? I do really like Kelly Clarkson a little bit. Yeah. Little bit. She's pretty good. I mean, how can you?
Probably. Did you dream? Maybe, maybe. I'm beginning to. That impression.
Yeah, man. So Kelly.
I often considered one of the best pop songs of the 2000s.
I also think you know we've got, we've had hip hop dominating the charts for like months and months and months and now we've got Green Day and Kelly Clarkson in there with a.
Yes, yes. Look out 50.
Of pop.
Rock it's just.
I don't think he's worried. He's got 2 songs in there, but you know there's two pop rock. There's like. Things out, it's kind of nice. It's kind of nice. We have an album album. Them that I like that really is going to throw the balance right off. Now I'll buy a band a band that I love so much and a band that I actually was lucky enough to tour with when they came to Australia. Oh God, I think it was like late 90s.
None.
And I was so excited for this album. This band is called Strapping Young Lad and they released an album called Alien, and this is their 4th studio album. This is an extreme metal project by a gentleman named Devon Townsend. He's a Canadian. He has his band. Is completed by. Jed saw. Byron Stroud and Gene Hoglund. Gene Hoglan, one of the greatest drummers of all time. Fantastic band. This was their heaviest and most intense release and. Really. This album, but it's very industrial death, thrash metal and a very. You think wall of sound like and you think Beach Boys, but when you do the wall of sound with heavy metal you get this.
So.
There you go.
Hmm.
So good, so good. Very sonically. Just concussive almost with the with the way that they play and sound. And Devon Townsend is a very he's like all genius. He's very complex and he's definitely a musical genius. This guy, in my opinion, you'll listen to a lot of other projects that he's done. That's his heavyest. But he does like a lot of melodic and more poggy. Rocky sort of stuff with bands like Ocean Machine and the Devon Townsend Project, and he's done a concept album called Ziltoid, which is about an alien from outer space that somehow has puppetry in it. It's very weird, but he does a lot of different things, a lot of diverse stuff, and this was obviously his dark side. This was very cathartic for him and he was going through a lot at. Time he struggled with bipolar disorder and medication withdrawal. He stopped taking his antidepressants and all his moods. Stabilisers during the recording, which resulted in that really aggressive sound and you can hear it when he screams. It's like, Oh my God. And he said that he wanted it to be the most brutal and evil and insane thing possible, while still maintaining that melodrama. That melody and complexity that he has, and he certainly did that what I love about Strapping Young Lad is they existed for a very short period of time and then they went their separate ways. But it was always the original lineup all the way through for all their albums, so they were. A light to tour with as well.
What were they like? Were they were they ********? Were they? Did they party a lot? What were they?
It was very. No, not at all. Not at all. So they were really chilled. They were really chilled guys. Jed and Byron were probably the more sociable out of the two. Gene was a very nice guy. He was a very he was a very large amount of time. Gene Hoggland stands at over 6 feet tall and he was quite a big man at this stage. He'd lost. He's lost a lot of weight since, but I do recall that every time you'd. A snack. Or whatever gene would hear almost the rustling of the packet be like.
Oh. What? Like what your puppy dog does?
And he'd be like what you got there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you got there? So that was pretty cool. And Devon, when we went on the tour with them and we, I'd had friends who actually toured with them. They came to Australia twice in the late.
You've opened something.
90S and my friend toured with the band called Alchemist and that was on the 1st tour of Shopping Lad and we got to tour with them on their second tour and I think their experiences were a bit different because Devon had obviously been through a bit discovering his mental health issues and stuff. So I noticed that he was. Insanely energetic on stage, they are to this day one of the best live bands I've seen. One of the best concerts that I've seen is Strapping Young Lad in their. Tour of Australia at the ANU bar. We've been listening to them since we were in high school. My friend Julian got me onto them and I was into Steve Vai and Devin Townsend. Had worked with Steve Vai and stuff and and it just I remember being at that concert and just going. I cannot believe I'm at a bar watching this band. And it had that real Sonic oral experience. The sound was phenomenal.
That would have blasted.
In that small venue, yeah. Wow.
It was amazing. It was amazing. It was just one of the and the energy that Devin has on stage is he's incredible. Man. And so when I toured with them and he kind of, I think he was going through a bit of stuff. He definitely brought up for all his shows. Like he put a lot of pressure on himself to do these great shows and everything had to be perfect. And I found that he wasn't really like, he was very nice, but he was a little bit sort of not with it when he wasn't performing.
Be removed, yeah.
To use quite exhausted and I remember being at the at the after party on one of the final nights in Melbourne, I think it was. And they they'd previously done a live recording in Melbourne and they had a great show in Melbourne and I think their expectations were really high and I don't know that those expectations might have been met. And they were. They were still in good spirits and stuff, but I know that Devon was like, had put a lot of pressure on himself to do, like, a really good show. And I don't think his expectations were met. And he kind of just crashed out. He just he was asleep in a chair. He was just exhausted. But what an experience I mean. I mean, this is one of those moments that I had in my youth where I was like and they were really nice, normal people and everything where they were. I'm I was going from being a 16 year old kid. And discovering Devon Townsend through Steve Vai and then working with some local bands around here and then hooking up with a like a band that had achieved a fair bit of success and was getting airplay and stuff and then getting to go on tour with Strapping Young Lad and I could not. Believe it. I was just like it was. It's still like a dream. Like I was standing outside of myself just having access to this incredible world that I'd only ever imagined. When I'd read magazines as a kid. So and it was. And it was. It was not. Although it was like 5 star hotels and all of that stuff, it was.
Yeah.
Taragos and. And breaking down on the side of the. All of that stuff, and I think that's what made it even more magical. And by the time Alien had come. I was like, wow, you know what a what, a band. Did one of those things or I just got really excited about stuff and? Talking like. Dushing even sorry. Let's go to the box. Don't.
Be sorry, same #1 here in Australia still. With Will Smith.
That was why we still. Him. Yeah, we did. We though, yeah. Well, I think we need. We thought he was all right. Everybody loved Will Smith in the early 2000s.
Hey, hey. No, her name checked him. Was it Eminem?
Oh was I say that doesn't need to cuss to sell records. Yeah.
It's a.
Yeah, that's right. And I I I think I started not liking him as much, sure. Now then, yes, I'm. I'm cheap. Yeah, I'm on table.
Because you thought a rapper that doesn't swear like, come on, dare you. How can you trust a rapper that doesn't swear?
Doesn't swear well. We now know he does swear. So anyway. Then he kept that hidden well, didn't he?
Well, yes, yes, but only only in only in domestic situations. Oh, all.
Right, let's talk about.
Let's go straight to. Yeah. What is it?
Number one, over in America all. The ring number.
20 The ring 20 OK.
The horror sequel.
Oh great.
Have you ever seen something so scary that you just you had to show to someone else? Hey I want to show you something.
The.
Police. They found a body. The guy was dead on the living room floor, right? In front of the TV, the tape.
Did you watch it?
Thank you. Talking about his face.
I found you.
To.
Keep myself a little bit. That's right. I remember. I remember now the ring was the one about the cursed video. To have you ever bought or rented a video tape that wasn't quite right.
I mean, I watched a video tonight.
Wanted. Wanted, wanted.
Well, yes, these people definitely did.
Chances are it was the ring and you're about to die. Yeah, the sequel. That ring was a big hit back in 2002.
Two, yes. It was a remake of a.
The Japanese Wann and Japanese do really good, creepy, scary horror because of the chick she was in black and white and then she came out of the TV and you were like Oh my God, this is scary thing I've ever seen.
Horror, yeah.
And it is the same director, the director, that did the original, the OG Japanese one did this one, yeah.
Kiss video. Nakata was his name. Yes, it's pretty good and I think the the pronunciation in Japan is Ringo. Yeah, yes. Which means ring in Japanese. OK.
It's called green divine.
After the. Events of the ring Part 1. Rachel and her son Aiden.
Yeah.
That's a very.
Australian Aiden, Rachel and Aiden moved to a small town in Oregon. Yes, to escape the Samaras cursed videotapes.
I didn't.
Hmm.
However, Sam Samara isn't done with him yet, so she begins to horse Aiden.
Did you give that videotape back to Samara?
Did you return? Did you return it?
You're gonna get a fine.
You get a fine.
Well, you better do that. Otherwise you're not going to take you to the Boomerang pavilion at Expo 2005.
Umm. Then Samara tries to possess him and claim him as her own because he hasn't paid the fine. So Naomi Watts is Rachel. David Dorfman is aim.
Yes, she came back. Simon Baker was in there too. Mayor, the Mentalist, Simon Baker.
I don't make Denny. I love him. I loved him in Melissa de Coupses. Clip to read my.
Lips. Really. Oh, he was dancing in that, wasn't it?
Yes, that was important videotape. That was a great video tape. Oh my goodness.
There's parts of that videotape that still haunt me.
Oh wee.
If you want to wait till later. Hands off my detonator. Yeah. Sissy. Spacey. Yes. Yes, I've.
Sitting face check. Yeah. Evelyn. Evelyn. Samara's mother, mother of Samara, and.
Horror movie royalty. Hmm. Yes, they they did. Well, there's $50 million budget and it made 163.9 so good return on investment. Hora good ROI with the ring. Yeah, it was good. The first one was better. And the second one was a little bit more.
That's good. That's good for.
I didn't watch that. I hate horror.
Of the same, but it was better. Why don't go to TV? Ohh.
We had a very big debut. The US version of the office premieres on March 24, 2005.
Everybody, we are a death com five. I am officially the second most watched clip of the day on the WBRE News. What's number one? Oh, that teacher who was wrongfully accused of being a **********. Now we cannot let the ********** win again. I would like you all to. Website and watch my clip 11 times. Instead of.
Working. You want to, OK, yes. Oh.
Yes.
Did you see this report that the zoo got a baby Otter? It's on the same site. It's kissing its mommy.
Oh, Michael, you have to see. This is, like, the cutest thing ever.
Please. A baby Otter. OK, count me in as. Who cares? It's not even that interesting. A baby Otter. It can't even stand up. Trying to stand up. There it goes.
It was a good show, mockumentary style sitcom. Of course based on that British series created by Ricky. Your face and Stephen Merchant and I thought, oh, you know, they're not gonna do that well because the British officers like classic iconic. And they did. It was great. It's it was very popular. Developed by Greg Daniels who used to write for The Simpsons and Saturday Night Live. It was in very good hands and of course it it followed the daily lives of employees at Dundon Mifflin which was a struggling paper company.
Yeah.
Pennsylvania. And it was like fly on the wall type sitcom. It was great. It was really good. Steve Carell steals the show as Michael Scott, which is obviously the David Brent character that was played by Ricky Gervais in the in the British version. I think he had Rainn Wilson as Dwight, who was a big favourite with a lot of people. The beat farmer? Yes. And he was the assistant to the regional manager. Then John Krasinski. Is Jim.
Is that the one that's married to Emily Blunt? I saw them on Instagram this afternoon.
Yes. Yeah, they do. And he seems like a genuinely funny guy.
Looked like a lovely couple. And she and she's she's just lovely, too. She's gorgeous.
And he's got range, he's got range, he can do comedy, and then he can go off and be Jack Ryan and he can be in a quiet place as well. And he directed that too. Jenna Fischer is Pam Beasley, the receptionist who was in.
Hmm.
Job and the the bad relationship. And BJ Novak is Ryan Howard, the temp who has a few career changes.
I do think though, for the first season I I don't know that it was a massive, massive hit straight out the gate 'cause I think. I think we felt the first season was a little bit too copycat of the British version and then it kind of found its own style a little bit.
Hmm, took some time. Yeah. Hmm.
In season 2. Two and then becomes one of the most beloved sitcoms ever, and then it it's gone over to Netflix, hasn't it? Another streaming platform, so.
Yeah. And so yeah, you can binge it anytime you want.
And there's lots of there's lots of quotes, iconic quotes. I don't know any of them because I haven't watched it. I haven't watched the UK1 either, so. Don't even know what I'm talking about it.
I've watched bits and pieces. It's a very memeable, very memeable show.
That's what she said. I didn't know that.
Yeah.
From the office, there's.
Dwight with the fire drill.
Someone we know that always does?
That's what she said, yeah.
What? Like to the. Just being annoying.
Yeah, because we're like, oh. I think I better go soon. Maybe like that's what.
That's what she said. They say it all the time. Like every sentence. OK, so we can blame the.
Just so did she? Yeah.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Office for that.
Absolutely ridiculous, another big TV show, another big TV show in Britain on the 26th of March.
Oh, yes, yes.
Welcome with me.
Because if you do, then I should warn you.
Because if you do then.
It should blow again. You're going to see all sorts of things. Ghosts from the past.
I.
Aliens from the future.
The day the earth died in a ball of. It.
Won't be quiet. Won't be safe and it won't be calm. But I tell you what it will be. What's up? Tell you what it will be. The trip of a lifetime. Trip of a lifetime. The life. Doctor Who Saturdays at 7 on BBC1.
Yeah. Doctor Who back after 16 years, Doctor Who is back on the screen.
That music always makes me think of dinnertime 'cause it will always come on on the ABC when it was time for dinner, and it's getting hungry hearing it.
Doctor Who, Lindsay. On.
I I loved Doctor Who as a kid, until until I got really scared.
Did you? I was scared.
Ahead of it, cuz I was a.
Yeah, I've released. Yeah. Fired.
Bit too. For it and then I had a Doctor Who a version, and then I had to then sort of get over my Doctor Who a version to then pick Doctor Who back up and enjoy Doctor Who and Doctor Who is great. It's an iconic sci-fi series and you've got to understand like they're making this weekly TV show. That's just really.
Me.
Get through that, yeah.
Like really out there from a writing perspective and they're getting away with it and they're doing it with really tiny budgets as well. So it's kind of like. Guard. You know, it's a big camp and it's a bit cringy, but if you suspend your disbelief a little bit.
But it was.
Always on here in Australia, prime talk.
Yeah, man, it was a good show. Good show. So this one had Christopher Eccleston in as the 9th Doctor, and I remember Billy Piper. She was great in this as his companion Rose. I was like the pop star Billie Piper is in.
Every night.
Yeah. Yes.
And she done. Has she done the the call Girl show at this point is that after this, OK, this is.
Baby. Oh my God. No, no, no, no. I think it was after this one. I think this is a bit of a breakthrough role for her. Rose in Doctor Who.
Is pretty cool, right? Because we want to, because we want to.
They said Doctor Who.
Originally ran from 1963. Three to 1989 and I can't believe it was cancelled due to low ratings and declining interest. Well, obviously declining interest is a result of low ratings and vice versa. Ridiculous. Yeah. So we're just having dinner and you put it on at the wrong time. If you had to put it on a better time, we'd all watched it.
Well, everyone was eating their dinner. Dinner time. After dinner? Yes.
But they I think in 1996 they did a ATV movie with Paul McGann as the 8th Doctor and they tried to. I bet it just didn't do anything. And then I think they pitched a reboot that modernised the show and would make it appeal to a younger generation as well as respecting the classic fans, they found the middle ground.
Rtv.
But it was a little bit more cinematic, like bigger budget, modern effects, faster paced storytelling, more emotional depth, you know, with Billie Piper.
Mm.
Billy Piper, because we want to. If we want to.
I. Mean she's got range, right? She can be a pop singer and be in Doctor Who.
Is this when the Daleks started going upstairs?
Yes.
This was the things because it was always like the big joke was like oh, it's easy to get away from the Daleks. Just find the stairs and then there's a scene in one of the early episodes where it's like they get to the stairs and the Daleks are after them and they go the stairs and instead of.
Yeah.
Yes.
Get up the.
Stairs.
You're like haha.
Instead of the Daleks going exterminate, they go.
Levitate and you'll. Oh.
They can levitate.
Everything I'm fine to be true. What? What's happening?
Terrifying. Terrifying. Big success, though Doctor Who's back and it's in mainstream pop culture, and Christopher Eccleston was really good. He's really good. Actor Billy Piper was actually genuinely great, and you could tell, though, having a lot of fun without making it. And then he's the next one that comes in and he's run as the doctor is iconic. So and that just made the show take off even further. So yeah, like.
She was really good, yes. And then David Tennant.
Yeah.
Do yourselves a favour and go and binge.
Watch them, doctor.
Who and then come visit the Boomerang pavilion.
For you.
How?
Much.
God, that just came out of nowhere.
The surprise burn.
You open up the boom box and just set it up. Mel, if you haven't joined us and you haven't seen this before, what is the boom box all?
About well, this is where we come with our most millennial complaints. But look, we we don't discriminate here. If you've got a boomer complaint, if you've got a Gen X complaint, if you've got a Gen Z or whatever, the ones these days are. But just things that you like to whinge about. Basically, that's make you see moulds.
It it basically, it sounds like a boomer phenomena and we call it booming. Yes. And so we're opening up the boom box. What's in the boom box this week?
We are. OK, this week came to us from our good friend Fluff and muffin. You left something in your cart.
Yep.
You know the reminders.
Yeah, I hate that.
Yay, because it's like I've just put it in the cart to get the dopamine rush. I had no intention of buying, but it just add to cart just makes me feel satisfied and I'm going to leave it there. And now you're harassing me.
I hate that. Now you're emailing me about it. That is a massive pain in the ****, yeah.
Leave me alone. Are you stalking me? Can you please stop? How did you?
Get my number. I don't care what's in my cart. I'm not going to leave the shop with it. I'm not going to steal anything from your virtual online store.
Tom.
Oh yeah, it's all stuff that I like this week. We've got Doctor Who's Strapping Young Lad and video games. This huge release for the PlayStation 2.
Oh, sorry, I just got a medication reminder for I'll just some medication. I'm old. I've got to take medication. It's just got a.
What?
Oh, OK. Are you alright? Do you need? Do we need to pause?
I'm sorry, I got distracted. I'm fine. I'm fine, I think. No, I've got. I've got a window of about half an hour. Would be fine. Might need to take a break in in a moment.
All right.
What's going to happen if if we go past half an hour?
Might be able to go upstairs, I don't know.
Oi levitate.
Sorry, the big release on the PlayStation two. God of War.
God of War, this.
Oh. Is one of your favourites.
Oh, I loved it so much.
War ravaged Athens. Legions of undead soldiers. Greek mythology's greatest beasts. And a deceptive God. Are no match. Fits for the fury. Of one. Vengeful warrior. God of War.
Yeah, it was so.
Good to be hacking slash thing. It was super violent, just great. You get to control a character called Kratos, Kratos.
A lot of time being cratered then I think you enjoyed being.
The Spartan general.
Didn't you?
Yeah, he was. He was. He was tricked. He was a Spartan general who was tricked into killing his family by Aries, the God of War. So his whole thing is like.
Oh goodness.
My Kratos is gonna kill Aries. Alright, alright. I'm gonna park my car in your driveway. I'm gonna come up to your house and I'm gonna eviscerate you with the ******* blades of chaos, mate. That's what's gonna happen. They are on chains and they catch fire and I'm gonna cut your ******* head off with them.
I.
Mate, did he have long hair?
Kratos had no hair. Kratos had no hair. He was bald. They would bald. Now he's bald. He's very pale. He had a beard and he had, like a big like red sort of lightning bolt.
Just glue in the wind.
Oh, no way I.
Visualising Kratos, beautiful, long, shiny hair. Huh.
Ted. Yeah, it was really cool. Like war paint. So. So he needs to take on all the gods to kill Aries and wreak havoc on wreak havoc on Athens. And he's got to find Pandoras box. Great. Those mate, you cannot get any further until you find Pandoras box. All right, so does that, which is the only weapon powerful enough to kill a God. You want to kill the God, you've got to get Pandora.
Mm hmm.
Yes.
Fox first mate. Believe me. Yeah. You can't change my mind. And then and then he takes on all these other mythological creatures like hydras and minotaurs and all of that sort of stuff. And you got to navigate.
Of course.
Traps and stuff and it's like it's awesome. The combat was great, big boss battles, lots of Greek mythology integration, which was awesome. Really good.
You love your great *****, don't you?
Yeah. Yeah, I do love my Greek gods mate, Hannah and Kratos. The Spartan general. He was so good. He was just such a ****** character. He's just so like so.
You did play it a lot.
So, tormented by the fact that he'd been tricked into murdering his family, that he was insane and and and as a consequence a really violent game.
But I love it. How you're talking like it's a movie. Like he's so tormented. But he's you're playing him. You like you're pressing X&Y. It's big story big.
Hey, Adam.
Story and you and and and and Kratos anger comes out in his actions. And look, it's gone on to spawn a lot of sequels and God of War is still still.
Wow, you really got hold into it.
An awesome title.
This is one of the highest rated PS2 games ever, wasn't it?
Yes, yes, game of the year. It was to 4.6 million copies in that year alone sold worldwide. The biggest franchise like there is still spin offs. They're like I think it won a game of the year. The last God of War which is like the story, it evolved to the point where Kratos actually decided to settle down and have some kids and stuff mate. What? And then.
What game of the? Did he really? He had a family.
He's what? Yeah, and then he's. Yeah, he did. He had a little kid and then he's teaching the kid how to be a Kratos as well, mate. And he's like, mate, the first thing we're going to do to teach you to wield the blades of chaos is put you in the kickboxing, down at the Sutherland.
In. Game.
Jim, OK, you're going to learn how to snap kick some *******, head clean off. Then you won't have any problems with Aries or any of the other gods. Mate. Of course, that is not the voice of Kratos. Kratos has a much more. Although I do like to when I was playing the game, I'm like I am Kratos.
Oh.
You did, yes.
The Spartan general. OK, I will do what I want, mate. You killed my family, Aries. And now I'm going to viscerate you with the ******* blades of chaos, mate.
Oh.
A book.
Just when you thought it couldn't get any more visceral.
New York Times, they said. Can I start with? This is also off the non fiction shelf and of a similar topic to a topic that you didn't realise was nonfiction and you.
We're doing a book, OK? Yeah.
Kind of went. Wrong way with. Earlier this year, we're.
Seven oss.
About Scott Peterson again. No.
What?
Happens if, after being given up for adoption in childhood, you re establish contact with your biological family, only discover that your new found brother is a killer. Oh no, I'm not going to that. I'm not doing that. Not doing that at all. I'm not even going to put music on the thing that I think so this is this is a pretty awful story actually.
It's Scott Peterson. The one we talked about.
So what does?
So what?
Does he do you like? He's like a.
He just remember he killed. He killed. Reply someone else wrote a book about him early. Year. Oh.
So Scott Peterson killed someone. He's the murderer. Yes, that's good. And Anne Bird is the author.
Scott Peterson's the he's the murderer. Remember that other person wrote the book about him. Amber's the author of this one, who then?
Yes.
Out that. Was the sister of Scott Peterson. Oh.
Yes. What is his take?
Oh, wow. And then she's went, oh, well, you know, the cash in might as well cash, you know, I mean, why wouldn't you, too, have you been through all of that? Like, you know, might as well put out a book and see if I can get some coin for it. Tell them a story and then hopefully nobody asked me any stupid questions anymore. That's why I'd do it.
Better.
Yeah, it's one of.
Say what happens here. Yeah.
I'd be like they be like, oh, hey, so how's things? I just read my book. Seriously. I just. I don't have the energy. And that's what she's done. So she was given up for adoption by her mum. And then she got adopted into the Grady family where she had a very happy life. And then in the 90s, she came back into contact with her mom.
Mm.
And her family, and that included Scott Peterson and his wife Lacey. And then, which was for her, I guess.
None.
Half brother or something? Maybe. Maybe is that what it is or just his full brother?
The full brother, because she'd been given up for adoption by Jackie.
Yes, but maybe maybe different. Father, do you know what I mean? So maybe half, brother. I'm just speculating. Let's.
Oh, OK well.
We'll. Should have.
Go with brother.
Probably read the move, but the segment is called books we didn't read. In case you didn't know. So there you go. And so. And so she gets to become friends with Scott and his wife.
She said brother. She's.
Welcomed into the. Yes, when on holidays, family reads.
They went on holidays, family reunions, went to Disneyland together of.
Course they did, yeah.
That's peak like family bonding. Visiting someone who's got a someone's gotta stand in the queue.
If you go to Disneyland, you're tough.
Yeah, all the.
Somebody's gotta hold the bags while everyone else goes on the rides. You know, if you got little kids, you gotta look out for the kids. Yeah, all of that stuff. Try and pack a lunch because the food would be very expensive at Disneyland, I'm sure. Yeah. Remember where you parked the car? You know, all of that stuff. It's a logistic nightmare. Anyway. Christmas Eve, 2002.
Yeah, bring the bring the vom bags and catch some stars up.
On the wrong list. Yeah, towel in case you get.
Wet on the rods.
Lacey Peterson goes missing and then.
Hmm.
The whole facade of the family falls apart.
Well, we know what happened now.
Anne has to go and rush to the families aid to help search for Lacey. She lets Scott stay in a house while police try and find his wife, but Scotts behaviour starts getting weird as we know, because we talked about it in a previous book.
Hmm.
And get suspicious. She keeps a list of all his behaviour. By that time they find Lacey's body and Lacey was pregnant at the time, which is terrible and becomes convinced that Scott has done it. And then. Obviously that all comes to light, and she's made a.
Book she has. Yes. So blood. Brother. I don't think we even said the. Of. Bulls cried brother Ryan Bird. Yeah, and blood brother by Anne Bird has one review in total.
Call blood.
Yep.
Which also says to me that definitely not 1/2 brother if it's called blood Brother probably should have ascertained at the start of the second. But we do what we can. It's a free podcast and you're just lucky to have us at this stage.
Flatbella full brother. Full brother feel we read the title. You would have known.
All right, yes.
So on the Goodreads blood brother by Ann Burt has 1 review.
What's the?
One review by Jana Cox. Jana hasn't chosen a number of stars. Jayana has just made. Just made a comment just done a review. No stars. So yeah, it's not that she's given it zero stars. She just hasn't selected any number of stars, so we don't know how many stars Jana Cox has given blood. Brother brianne. Burt.
Yeah.
But her review?
Interesting book from the brother of Scott Peterson.
It's his sister.
I know.
That's still a quite a sound review. I'm glad that I'm glad that we set that, that book we didn't read review up a little bit before I went down the rabbit hole that I couldn't climb back out of, although I do feel that if there's any Spartans out there, they may have been a little bit offended by my rendition or my interpretation of Kratos.
Would you like to call it? Would you like to apologise to the Spartan?
Oh, no, I think. I think I was just trying to get into character, you know, and and I I've never claimed to be a good actor.
Great. Well that, yes.
Or anything like that. But I have. I will put my hand on my heart and say that I always try my best and that's all I was doing. So I want to apologise if I have offended anyone, but I was definitely trying very hard to embody Kratos and in my minds eye when I when I when I went into myself and I tried to find my special place and.
Hmm, OK.
Good try. That's a good choice.
That character and I met that character in that special place. That's what it sounded like in my head, and that's what I have brought to the table for you people here today.
That's what it sounded like.
There's voice in your. Thank you. We appreciate.
That anytime. But I'm sorry if you didn't like it. It is a hatch match and dispatch segment. We have to do a clue. It's somebody who got divorced, a conscious uncoupling even. They said this.
I don't find it painful. I think it's a narrative that follows you because it's an interesting headline. It's it's more of a media driven topic.
Jennifer Aniston. Poor Dan. Poor Jen. What happened? What happened to Jen?
Watching. 10 and Brad's they were Hollywood's golden couple in the early 2000s, but their fairy tale marriage ended in divorce in 2005, making headlines worldwide. I remember the headlines.
Weren't they? Did by what people still talk about it?
I was in. I was in Ballarat at.
The time? Yeah. Like, where were you when Jennifer Aniston?
I was panning for goals at the what's that called? The sovereign hill. I was panning for gold and I came home after a long day panning for gold.
Are you Siri?
And then that was on the news and it.
Was just too much. That's funny. Never in the movies would I have thought I would be able to say to you, Mel, where were you when you found out about Jen and Bradley? Divorce. Penny gold in Sovereign hill.
Pen for gold. Sovereign hill. I even had to wear an outfit from the year old days and they've got in trouble for having shoes that weren't of period.
You're in a period costume. Oh.
Not doing someone else's shoes and they stunk. They stunk. They stunk. I had to wear someone else's peerage shoes. And then I came home to find that Jen and Brad were. No.
Have the you didn't have the period shoes on. You had to borrow somebody else's period shoes.
Wow, that's a rough day.
Some very emotional, very emotional day. You're getting upset. No. No. But I did watch a horse get its shoes changed.
Did you find any gold? So you're in period costume wearing somebody else's period shoes, ***** for gold in probably what was a period Creek. So there's no more gold left because the gold period is long gone.
Not if it's already gone. Gold Rush was years ago.
Yep. And then you, you watch you watch a period horse get period shod yes. And then you go home.
Years, years and years ago. Sean, is that what you call it, Sean? I watched the Eureka. I watched the Eureka performance well.
I'm thinking past tense for. Yeah. Oh, you saw. Blood under the Southern Cross thing.
How did you know it was cold?
Period thing as well. I've read the brochure. Yep. Yep. And then you come home from that big day at Sovereign Hill and the final nail in the coffin is Jen and Brad are no more. They're over. They're divorced.
Good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Big day. Big day.
Over over. Yes.
Yes, it's official. Thanks to that, Angelina, Angelina.
Wow. Oh, the succubus Jolie, the home wrecker, Angelina Jolie.
Home pressure. Extraordinary. Let's go back, though. Let's go back in history to the better times when Aniston and Pitt first met in 98, they were set up by their agents and quickly became hollywoods favourite couple, always in the magazines, always in.
Yes. Do you remember where you were when you found out they got together?
The red carpets.
I wasn't at sovereign. Hell no, 19 actually 1990, no Mooseheads would have been at Mooseheads. Yes, or jolly.
No, probably the private bins. Oh, goodness yeah. Excellent.
Jugs the Malibu wedding in 2000, was a lavish private affair. There was fireworks and a gospel choir. Yeah, in Malibu. And then Fast forward to 2005. Hmm. During the second gold rush.
Yes.
Yeah.
She wasn't panning for gold, she was at home and and Brad was filming Mr and Mrs Smith, the spy, one with Angie leading to. There was the rumours. Remember, we started off with the rumours.
Yeah.
For the affair, lots of lots of media, so I think the media split them up really. Although you have you say that, but as soon as it.
The affair. Well, come on.
Happened. Brads often run straight into Angelina's arms.
On vacation in April 2005, that's like next month. Month later, on vacation in Kenya.
That's me. That's a bit rubbish, isn't it?
Kenya, fueling speculation that Jolie had led. The split well, it sounds.
Like it? No, it's no, you can't blame Angelina.
Well, it takes 2 to tango, doesn't this I suppose of them but yes anyway.
Yes it does. Wow.
I'm still upset about it. I did like them together. I liked them both. She had some great outfits too. They.
Really.
Coordinated their outfits really well.
And wasn't there some flirtations, some flirtations? Sort of. Over the last few years? Maybe around 2019-2020. There's some flirtations. But then I think Brad's sort of Brad's kind of getting cancelled a little bit. Now, I don't know if we can. I don't really know the facts. I don't know the full story either. So I think you know, if we're going to.
Beautiful. Just beautiful. I don't know can. Talk about Brad anymore. I. I don't know the full story, but I think we don't like him anymore.
About it, we should be maybe like.
That makes everything better.
Well, it turns out that Brad cheated with Angelina, and now Jennifer has had to divorce in. No, we're gonna do that. That's ridiculous. Goodness me.
Do you remember? Though it turned into the the team Aniston versus team Jolie, and everyone was taking sides and she was portrayed as the the poor sad like sad bench. She was sad Jen, Poor Jen, Poor Jen.
For Jim. Ah, there's a thing. Why doesn't poor gin and sad bin lookout?
Oh, no. No, no, no, no, that's too much.
No. To just open a big vortex of depression.
Too much?
Of course, radio had to write another album or something, I mean.
She said in in a famous interview in 2005 that she was shocked and hurt, but she later found peace.
Hmm.
And then not even a year later, Angie is pregnant with Brad's child and and that's when they officially confirm their relationship.
They say no. Even a year later, but I mean. OK, he's obviously king and we're now making that movie, so plenty of opportunity to impregnate the woman. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
What would? About is that nine months? I don't know. I can't math.
Possibly we just confirm all of our suspicions and I don't. I mean, I don't, I don't understand the circumstances. So I'm going to reserve my judgement for I don't know the Canberra night club scene.
Wolf pretty close to it.
Newest and newest.
Anyway, that's it. That's it. We're no, of course. Exactly. Well.
Not with those shoes, not even with the period shoes.
I.
Shouldn't get in, so I was always bitter. You know, it was always bitter about it. Nothing much has really changed, actually. What have we got next week? What's next?
Hmm. Well, no, you were.
Next week.
I think we have another earthquake. Unfortunately, I think we've got a couple of disasters next week, so not so great.
I did say at the beginning of the show, yeah. Lots of tectonic activity.
But probably the debut of ATV show that.
I think.
Is gonna go down in history as. Of the. Shows. I think it's still running now. I don't know. I think it's one of the goats, yes.
Really.
Of all time. Is it really? Do you know what else? Got golf.
Oh oh.
And not just any golf, women's golf. And you know, else we've got we've got a we've got a remake of a classic movie. That was kind of flipped a little bit that we'll talk about too.
Hmm.
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