Holy smokes, we’ve got a new pope! Rewind to 3 April to 9 April 2005 when the Vatican signalled smoke, Baghdad signalled fury and WrestleMania went full Hollywood.

🕊 Farewell JP2. The world farewelled Pope John Paul II after 26 years in the top job. Cue one of the largest funerals in history and all eyes on a chimney as the conclave kicked off. White smoke = new pope. Enter Benedict XVI.

✊ Iraqis Say No. ThanksFirdos Square, once the backdrop for Saddam’s statue toppling, became the stage for a massive anti-American protest. Led by supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr, thousands demanded U.S. troops GTFO.

🎭 WrestleMania Goes Hollywood.WrestleMania 21 served cinema and suplexes. Cena and Batista took the belts, Edge won the first-ever Money in the Bank and Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle delivered pure wrestling gold.

🎤 The Game & 50 Cent Play Nice(ish).‘Hate It or Love It’ climbed the charts despite beef brewing behind the scenes. 50 refused to film with The Game, so green screen magic made it look like they were chillin’ in the same lowrider. Unity through CGI, baby.

🖤 Sin City Sizzles.Frank Miller’s graphic novel got the Hollywood treatment and it worked. The black-and-white neo-noir aesthetic, Jessica Alba with a lasso, and a terrifying Elijah Wood? Cinematic chaos. Tarantino even dropped in to direct a scene, because of course he did.

📺 Meet the Barkers.MTV launched Meet the Barkers, a chaotic blend of rock star mayhem and domestic drama. Blink-182’s Travis Barker and Shanna Moakler opened their lives (and possibly Pandora’s box) to the cameras. Spoiler: they didn’t stay married.

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

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• 5:53 news
• 29:52 sport
• 38:12 music
• 58:50 movies and tv
• 1:10:33 books we didn't read
• 1:20:02 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:23:33 show closer

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Max. 

Three April 2005. 

-20. This is the talk show minus. 

20 The nice breaker. Don't judge me yet. 

This is bananas. You will come home. 

My question is who approved that? 

Do you see where this is going? Not really. 

Hello and welcome to the Little comfort zone that we like to call the past where we rewind to this week in history 20 years ago on the podcast that we call t -, 20, which is also part of the comfort zone, we really enjoy being here. It's really great with your host. Joe. Mel. Hello, Mel. Hello. This week. 

We are rewinding to 2005. We've hit April the 3rd to the 9th. 

The Catholic Church has lost its shepherd. The world has lost a champion of human freedom. And a good and faithful servant of. God. Has been called home. 

It's one thing to lose sheep, but it's a completely different kettle of fish. When you lose a. Shepherd. 

Yes. 

So we'll talk about what happened with that shepherd a little bit later. 

Run. This is where U.S. Marines tore down a statue of Saddam Hussein during the 2003 invasion. Now an effigy of President George W Bush has put on the same pedestal. The tables turned a little bit in Baghdad this week, and there were a lot of protests taking place, which we'll discuss in the news. 

You've got a champ, that guy, Mel Gibson. He's got nothing on you. Whoo. 

No podcast is complete without a promo from Rick Flair in. 

It wrestle mania this week, 20 years ago, and I'm not mad about the wrestling contents. I must admit I do enjoy it. I do enjoy the wrestling. 

Aren't you and oh, it's been great. It's so great now that I've got a child that's old enough to watch it. I I, I I mean. I mean, who's really watch it? I don't know. People think I'm weird. I start talking about wrestling. 

It is an exciting time in, in wrestling at the moment. 

Vin vinik. 

It is. 

As well, which we'll touch on but. This was wrestle mania back in 2005. I think they referred to it. As like the Hollywood edition. 

Wrestling. He goes. Hollywood. Yeah, that's right. That was the theme for it. 

Those Hollywood? Yes, they're all acting out famous movies. 

Yes, yes. 

And so we'll show some of those a little bit later on as well. They they did, they did scenes from films and it's like, hmm, who did it better? 

For the changing of the gods. Yes. Well, actually Speaking of scenes, yes, I dabble in voice overs, voice acting and. 

Dabble, you're a black belt at voice acting. You're wonderful. 

And I think I've spoken previously about maybe being typecast. 

A little bit. 

Based on your what? 

Oh well, look, I had a run of no, probably probably age. Probably ailments. I had a run of. 

Gender. Age. Yeah. 

Are you? 

What did I have? I had some commercials for bunions, bunions, toenail fungus. Wow, you know that the crusty heels that you get the dry skin on your heels, there was a whole run of that type of stuff. 

Yeah, yeah, sure. 

For a while. Ohh OK. 

It's a little bit of art imitating life. 

It's it's like my agent has seen my search history. But anyway, sure, but it it's been a while, but I got. Two auditions come through this week, yeah. One was for a a lotion that helps with pain aches. Just just general run of the mill aches and pains, lotion, pain lotions, and the other was an ear wax remover. 

Right. 

Pain. Right, yes. 

Ohh they're they're very. 

On trend though ear wax removers, there's lots of earwax removal videos on the TikTok. 

This one look, this one actually sounded really good. Yeah, almost. I did Google it afterwards. 

Yeah, right. What was it? Was it a water based? 

And my by my. 

By that I. I was influenced. 

Bing. 

I can't say it's NDA. It's an NDA sort. 

Yeah, uh, that's a shame. See. See, you say you're being type cast, but I. I mean, I'm having I'm of the same age group and I have a very active interest in her. What type was him? How much? Where can I get it? 

I do feel they must just look because you get you get the corporate headshot done right. You you put your headshot up and your agent goes and finds work for you. Yeah, I do feel sometimes they look at the corporate headshot and just think. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

Behind that, that, that professional headshot is a is a bunion sufferer feel, feel a lot of aches and pains behind that headshot? She would be perfect. She would be perfect for claw toes. 

Someone suffered from bunions. That could be you too. Assume a lot. Yeah. Yeah, you do assume a lot from a headshot. I can tell just by looking at that chick photo. But she's got some serious wax in her ears. 

Yes, exactly, exactly. 

Unbelievable. 

Did I? Sorry. 

What I think that just cleared it out. 

Ohh yeah, it's the the Hatch match. Dispatch clue little segment we do at the end of the show. Births, deaths, marriages this week we have a this is a wedding. 

Ohh it is. We'll have a match a match. 

That's been, you know, cemented in Wedding Ness. 

Together and individually, we are strengthened by sharing perspectives. And experiences and by offering and borrowing the myriad ways we have each tackled the challenges of our time. 

Yes, I reckon that guy could do an ad for. Life insurance. Maybe for for the over 50 fives. Yeah. Ohh, it's wow. Wow. OK, maybe. I mean, I don't wanna wish anything. You know what happens when we start talking like that? The curse kicks in. 

Yeah, potentially. Or or funeral insurance. No. 

Yes, actually that's true. 

And we'll find out who I mean. It's pretty easy pretty easy that way I'll find. Out who it is at the end part. 

3rd of April 2005 and this is a bit of a follow on from last week's dispatch segment. We farewelled our Pope John Paul the second well he he passed away on April the 2nd and this week on the 3rd of April we have the global outpouring of grief. The morning and the the the funeral. 

Yes. 

To hospital. 

And also moving into electing the new Pope, which is. 

Yes. 

Which is quite the. 

Process. So we're gonna break it down for. You. 

There's a lot of pomp and ceremony. They placed him in state within the Apostolic palaces Clementine Hall, which allowed the faithful to come in and pay their respects. 

Hmm. 

At 2137. Our beloved Holy Father, John Paul the second has returned. To his home. 

The Catholic Church has lost its shepherd. The world has lost a champion of human freedom and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home. 

Yes, JP was head of the Catholic Church. For over 26 years. 

Yeah, he's like the only Pope I remember. Like I said last week. Like, that's my hope, you know. 

A spiritual leader. Yes, yes, he's the influential Pope in in my mind, he was. 

Yeah, he was the Pope drew my formative years as a good Catholic boy. 

He was the Pope when I did my sacrament. 

He was the shepherd before I strayed from the. 

Flock, when I smell the benediction smell, I think JP the second. 

Uh-huh. So you think of it, you see photo up the back of the church near the near the holy water. Yeah, you wouldn't dip your hands in water these. 

Yes, just during. Wave. Yes, exactly. 

Please and touch yourself afterwards. Would you like if you you. 

No, actually thinking back to that now. 

Know. Bit bit gross. Yeah, just this little thing of water and everyone dips their hands in it, their fingers in it. It's like a giant communal finger bowl for hundreds of people. 

That is. 

That is actually really. 

Ohh. 

Ohh anyway, there's probably a topical cream for that might be voicing it next week. 

Yeah. Or well, you know, I mean or a miracle. 

I don't know. 

He played a significant role in global affairs, including the fall of communism in Eastern Europe, Interfaith Dialogue and the advancement of human rights. He was known for a lot of human rights advocacy work. 

Yes, he was. 

He was born in 1920 in Poland and was actually the first non Italian. 

Yes. 

Pope. 

Carol Youssef. Watch. Uh. See, I you can't get there cause the Polish pronunciation. I'm not sure in what Vici in Poland, but I probably didn't even say that correctly. Yeah. 

Ah yes. That's an interesting looking girl, isn't it? 

It's got little thing through it. 

Yeah, it's got a thing through the L the strike through. Well, I tried to, but I just. I don't. You know, I'm not from. 

No wonder you can say it. Yes, it's tricky. 

There. So I didn't do very well, so apologies for any of our Polish friends, but. 

Or Pope fans, or why? 

OK. 

They haven't done anything, said anything bad about the Pope. 

So he didn't say his name. He didn't say his name properly. 

Well, he's, he's John Paul the second now he's a Pope. He's changed his name. Thank goodness, because it just rolls off the tongue so much. 

Yes. 

Yes. 

Easier first non Italian Pope. As I said in over 450 years. 

This is why you get the voice over jobs, not me, you know. 

Ohh, don't get me to say people. 

I'm never gonna be. I'm never gonna be approached by a Polish earwax company. Now, *** **** it, how am I gonna make any money? 

'S names I can't do. I can never do awards. You know how good I am with. 

People's names. They never. 

Yeah, you're shocker. I just. I just. 

Do those. I've got one of those jobs once and it took me about 3 days. 

Go for break. You know the secret to it and I should have shared this with you off there really. But anyway is to commit just commit like. That's all I'd ever have done. I just commit and then people correct me and then I get really cranky. Just you can try it. And it's like, well, I did. And I told you the correct way. It's like, ohh, thank. 

Well. 

Just commence. Yes. Let's go back to the Pope. As I said, it rolls off the tongue so much. 

Back to JP, have some respect. He was elected in 1978. He travelled a lot. He did a lot of youth engagement and a lot of efforts to reconcile with other religious communities. He did start getting ill in the early 2000s. 

Yeah. 

I think Parkinson's was causing him. A lot of trouble. 

Yeah. Remember, we played that thing around Christmas time where he did the the maths and he was. 

Hmm. 

Us, like, barely holding on. It was like goodness me, somebody give the guy a break. Just. 

Yeah, yeah. And then he got a really bad flu or influenza and yeah. 

Let him rest. Yes. And this is kind of, yeah, 1, you know, it's just, it's it. His days were numbered. You. 

Could tell. Yeah. So he passed away in his Vatican residence on the 2nd of April 2005, and then the church moves into this morning and also a transitional period. 

But they celebrate as well. It's like this whole process of of electing the new Pope, where they have this process where they it's called the papal conclave. 

Hmm. 

There was a movie about it recently, got nominated for an Oscar, and it's there's lots of tradition. There's lots of secrecy, although obviously it can't be secret about everything. So there there is that mourning period after the Pope dies. So the Vatican enters that period of mourning. So that's nine days you get 9 days of that. 

Hmm. 

Gosh, and lots of people travelled there too, to pay their respects. 

Didn't they? Yeah. 

Yeah. And you ready? I'm gonna try a pronunciation now. It's known as the November yales. 

OK. Do I that convinced? 

Yeah, thanks. Good. So you just gotta commit if you even if you try and sound just slightly exotic but retain some of your own accent. Allah, George. Jonathan, sometimes you could like roll your R November dialect. Yeah. And then maybe roll your R if you get a chance. Only if you get a chance. Don't overdo it though. So that's what. 

Or so maybe some dealers. November 11. Violet. 

Called and so they they do the funeral rites. All the world leaders show up, hence George Bush's little speech. They're religious figures and the faithful, of course everybody can can show up and it gets pretty busy. So they have his his funeral on the 8th of April in 2005 and that's that I think still stands as one of the largest gatherings of Heads of State. History because he was a very popular Pope and he was a Pope for quite some time, right. And then after all of that, after that happens, that's when the conclave stuff happens. 

MHM. 

So. 

What's the conclave stuff? 

The reverb, the. 

Conclave begin. Let the conclave begin. So 15 to 20 days after the Pope dies, the College of Cardinals, which is all the the senior church officials. They gather in the Sistine Chapel. You know the one that's got the ceiling that was painted on. Have you been there? Have you? 

I've been in there, yes. 

Yes, I went to the Vatican. I had to line up for a. 

Did you? 

Long time and I had to wear sleeves. 

Ohh really. Ohh yes, out of what respect. 

I don't know. You can't. Go sleeveless paulines can't go sleeveless. Pauline in there. 

Can't have any bear arms in the. 

Is that? 

But. 

Yeah. And you not allowed to take photos, but people were. So I was very annoyed at them doing that. And not following the rules. 

Did you you? 

Say if I've gotta wear sleeves, these people should not be allowed to take photos. 

Correct. Is it tacky? 

Or is there like like are they are there lots of souvenir shops in the Vatican? Or do they play it really straight? 

I think outside of the Vatican, so outside around there. 

Yeah. So if you get like AT shirt with like the the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel look. 

Like no, but you can get postcards and bookmarks. They were classy, classy souvenirs, yes. 

Angelo. Of course. Cool. No, like you know in Australia you get the little clip on koalas. Now very popular with the seasons Snow Globes. 

So no, no clip on popes or anything. No, no, no, don't think so. 

OK. OK, 15 to 20 days the the College of Cardinals with the senior church officials in the Sistine Chapel. They take an oath of secrecy and are sequestered from the outside world. So they they lock them up. It's a big lock in no media or communication devices or anything. We're stuck in there. 

Don't think so. 

Sign in the safe. 

And that's where they start voting and they have to vote for the new Pope. So the system goes. 

Hmm. 

That each cardinal writes the name of their preferred candidate on the ballot paper. 

MHM. 

Then the ballots are collected and they counted and they burn them. After each round of voting. So you know, there was watching the chimneys we'll get. We'll get to that in a second. Yeah. Yes. So if no candidate receives at least 2/3 of the votes, so you need to have 2/3 of the votes to be the Pope, then they go. 

They're waiting for the smoke. OK, good. I'm I want to know the rules about the smoke. 

And again. 

Do they tell each other who they're voting for, or is it an individual kind of like, do they go into a little booth like we do and you kind of put your arms around it so no one? 

No. 

Knows who you're voting for or. 

Look, they might they there may be some conversations. It's inspiring. 

Do they have a discussion because? Because it could be difficult because if they all vote in a certain way the first time and then they go ohh, we haven't reached a unanimous decision. 

Before it, it could. Be cool. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

Well, I'm just going to switch my vote for someone else, and then they all switch their vote for someone else. Then again, nobody. 

Else wins. Does take some time. I wanna watch. 

It just. 

A movie. Now, it could be quite frustrating. 

It feels. 

Yes, it feels very difficult. 

I'm sure that there are some some you know, back of house conversations, but I'd say that it is. 

They're allowed to. Maybe some allies, some allegiances, alliances. I don't know what? 

I don't know. I well like it's cause it's it's shrouded in in secrecy. 

Is this what? 

It's a secret secret. No phone, no media. 

Hell, I don't know. 

Because it's shrouded in secrecy, so it's the 2/3 thing. So if it's not, if the Pope doesn't get elected after several votes, then they can talk. Probably should have read on, yeah. 

Ohh then they can. Right. Sorry. Sorry for interrupting. Keep going. 

Yeah. 

It's alright, we had. I enjoyed. 

Here comes the smoke. Tell us about the smoke, because there's different colours or something, isn't it? 

The the smokes, yes. So the world. So the the cameras, you know, you always see they got the crossing live now to the Sistine Chapel's chimney. We can see three parts of call you know. So they gotta wait. They gotta wait. So if it's black smoke yes it means that. 

Waiting for the smoke to the smoke. 

Waiting for the smoke monster. 

No decision has been reached burning the papers so it's black smoke when they burn the. 

And is the smoke from burning the? 

But if it's white smoke, then that means that they've chosen the new Pope and everyone. Cheers. I have no idea. I don't know. Throw some. I don't know. Gum leaves. I don't know, something. It's a little bit like a gender reveal, but it's a a Pope reveal. Yes. And it's. And they only do it one way. Like wouldn't it be good if they could do it? 

Yes. What are they burning to get the white smoke? How do they make it change colour? It's kind of like a gender reveal. Whatever they do for the gender reveals. A pipe revealed. 

In in different ways, you know. 

I saw a great gender reveal that was like a it was a Ferris wheel. Yeah, it's going pink and blue and pink and blue and pink and blue. And then. 

Yeah, right. Yeah. 

Went blue, so maybe you could do it on a Ferris wheel or a burnout. 

Yeah. 

I saw a burnout gender reveal 1. 

We just cut a cake and then it's it's either black or white inside you wear a cake. What? What are you putting a? 

I'll put the. Cabinets, yes. Cup in they put the champagne glass into the cake. The the husband and wife or the couple, and they turn the other way and then. 

No. 

Ohh, is that how they do it? Yes. They pull the champagne. Is that how they do it? Well, that's not a cup. That's a champagne glass. Yeah. 

And then like oh. 

It's still a cup, a cup of food. So you could do that you. 

Let's put a mug in. 

Could have a black and a black and. 

It. 

A white cake. OK, shorts. 

Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that's very simple. You could get a car. 

And lots of options. 

To do a burnout, yes. 

So I just said thanks. 

For listening. Yeah, I was too busy trying to wrap my head. They can't try and stink of my own ones. I. 

But maybe they could do it like with the cup that you drink the wine out of and just keep the. Religious scene going. 

Ohh, a chalice. Yeah, but they're generally not translucent. They're usually made out of a metal of some description. 

Yeah. 

Maybe communion could be involved? It could be colour, the communion. 

Really. Like you get stuck on the wafer and then stick your tongue out and. See what colour it is afterwards. 

Yeah, there is so many options. 

There is and I really don't think we've covered any of them adequately, but I'm sure you could come up with your own ideas. So so once the new Pope is elected, he accepts the role he's like I accept. 

So many options. 

What's like? 

The role and then he chooses his papal name. 

How does he choose his name? I'd like to think and remember when you did confirmation and you had to choose a confirmation name. 

Yeah. 

What was your confirmation name? 

Luke because no, because Star Wars. That's amazing. Yeah, that's pretty good, isn't it? That's. That's way before you could put Jedi on the senses, too. Just quietly. I was a little bit ahead of the curve. 

Christians in the Bible. 

Ah. 

Trailblazer. 

Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah. It was pretty good. 

What did your sponsor think of that? Did you tell them that that? Was the reason no? 

Because I feel like his. 

Sponsor should have said no you. 

Not now, since I did. I'm like, that's why you know you. Right, right. 

Can't do that. Like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Lee, Luke, the gospels. 

Right, right, right. Go directly. Yes. 

Luke. Yeah. And he also. 

Needed to go to Tashi station for some power converters. 

So, you know. Great. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I did. So so they're he chooses his name. He might I I'm not. I'm just saying Luke's a pretty good option. I reckon if you wanna if you wanna do that and then it's called Habermas paper which sounds like a spell from Harry Potter hibernates paper. 

That's good. 

A furnace paper meaning burn the. And. Make the smoke. 

No, it means we have a Pope. I think. I think that's. 

Ohh OK. 

What it means? 

There was, like, burn the paper, a burn as paper. 

I think. Paper. Miss Pope and I think hibernates is we have her. OK. It's like I said, it's like a Harry Potter spell. Her Burness paper. And so that's from the balcony of Saint Peter's Basilica. And then the Pope comes out and he gives his first blessing. And then everyone's finally. I mean, it's a long process. This is like, you know, 9. 

Oh. 

OK. 

Yes. 

Last days afterwards. 

Lots of voting, yeah. 

But so after. 

Two days of voting in 2005. Which we probably could have done next week, but God, let's just get it overdone with the conclave. Elected Joseph Ratzinger as the new Pope, Pope Ratzinger, and he took the name of Pope Benedict the 16th, which and so that. And then the Catholic Church still gets a leader and all. Of that sort of stuff, but. Pour one out for JP the second you know, probably have some. 

Yes, yes, the goat. 

The goat, in my mind anyway. 

Really. Just some cheap watered down red wine. We'll be fine. Just pour that out. It'll be fine. A couple of people might have had. 

A sip from it as well. Oh, I saw someone backwash once in there. The wine cup. You just I I don't think you should be sticking your hands in anything or drinking or eating anything. 

It's just not the. 

In church, really. 

Things need to change in order to just keep them in step with best practise these days. This is the water that everyone dips their fingers in. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. Ohh, we've got bad news. Are we gonna do that one? Yeah, we probably have to. The whole protests in Iraq against America. 

Yes. Ohh. 

There was a bit happening over there. This time 20 years ago, I mean we are the 3rd to the 9th of April. There was a bit. 

Yeah. 

Of a a trigger that kind of started on. The second of of April, which? We'll cover we had. 

Was the big gum. 

Attack the insurgents. I think 40 Iraqi insurgents launched an assault on Abu Ghraib prison using car bombs, grenades and small arms. 

Yes. 

Yeah. So that's like. That's the prison that we were talking about a few many episodes ago, but we've talked about. A few times 32 case West of Baghdad. All of the bad stuff happened with the human rights abuses under Saddam Hussein's regime. Then America took it over and it was reopened as camp Redemption, where it was a detention facility. But then we had some pretty bad things happen over there as well. Yes, on the on the allies side with. Not nice things being done to prisoners. 

Yeah, the and the photos that were leaked in 2004, which became infamous worldwide because it was. Yeah, prison. 

Yes. 

For abuse and it intensified anti American sentiments and made the facility a prime. Target for attacks. 

Yeah, they're like, let's go. So 2nd of April, at the end of last week at at about 7:00 at night, they come in and they assault Abu Great and the insurgents start firing mortars and rockets. And then they, I think, follow up to try and breach using the vehicles with explosives. And. Basically, create a massive mess. I don't think they got in though, because there's only like 6060 or 70 insurgents. Hmm, they had lots of firepower and stuff, but there's like, you're going up against the Marines. 

I think they managed to keep them back, but there was a couple of hours of pretty intense combat. 

Yeah, and injuries as well. I don't think any any U.S. soldiers died. 

Yay. 

44 were injured. Some prisoners were injured as well, but. 

Yeah, but on the other side, I think they killed the majority of insurgents. Yeah. So if you're thinking like around 60 or 70 of them, you got fifty of them dead. I think it's like. 

5050. So. 

OK, time to look. Time to leave. Time to go. Yeah. So, so that happened and that I think you know, did not help. What was then happening on the 9th of April when 10s of thousands of Iraqis staged these anti American protests in Fergus Square in Baghdad, which called for the withdrawal of the Americans from Iraq. Like get out. We're done. Go, go home. 

Hmm. 

So I want to know that and that protest was all supporters of Shiite cleric Bukta Al Sadir, and it marked the 2nd anniversary of the fall of Saddam's we talked about. Al Sadir a while ago as well, but that yeah, fall the 2nd anniversary of the falling of Saddam when they pulled down the the the statue. And it's the same venue that that further square was was where the US soldiers toppled that statue of Saddam in 2003, which we all saw. 

The statue? Yes, it's the same area. So they quite symbolic, yes. 

On the. TV. But I think there was more to that than meets the eye. If you if you actually look into that because that happened a couple of years prior, but there was I think that there wasn't as big a crowd as what the media kind of let on like. 

There had been, yeah, there later was a bit of talk and discovery that. Across Western news and television events, it was it was a. Big deal, I think. They were there live and they were showing it sort of second by second as it was happening, but they zoomed in really tightly on the crowds and never showed these wider shots. And when they showed when people were able to obtain some of the footage and in looking at the. 

Yeah. 

Wider shots. There actually wasn't that many people there and out of the people that were there. A lot of them were journos. Yeah, from from America and other Western countries. They weren't actually the Iraqi people in terms of the Iraqi people there, there wasn't that many. 

Yeah. Yeah. When you when you hear that and then you hear the narrative from the media, it's very interesting. 

It this looks like a, it's gonna be interesting to see whether they pull this down. I guess they will. And now it falls. 

A cheer goes around the square. 

Got him. There he goes. 

You have to think that there are going to be some minds changed as a result of these incredible pictures. 

The scenes of free Iraqis celebrating in the streets, Riding American tanks, tearing down the statues of Saddam Hussein and the centre of Baghdad are breathtaking. We're seeing history unfold, events that will shape the course of a country, the fate of the people and potentially the future of the. 

So like like, there was also comparisons to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. Yeah. So it was a big. I won't say it was a big propaganda thing, but I mean those images were great. Like, you know, the TV stations lapped them up. You've got this. 

Yes. 

But it was also. 

Talking about the hope that the Iraqi people had as a result of that and and what this meant for them and Fast forward to two years later, which is part of the reason for the protests, not much had happened. 

Yeah, yeah. 

No. And so they're like, let's get America. Yeah, that was the. That was the thing that really drove it. They wanted the US withdrawal because. They believed that they hadn't done much. You know, they were saying no to occupation. They felt like they were occupied. They're saying yes to Islam because they felt that the presence of the US over there hadn't improved their security at all or their quality of. 

Life they were also opposed to the interim government. It was the US installed interim government. And they believed that that lacked legitimacy and failed to represent the Iraqi people and growing frustration around the foreign influence in their political future. 

Yeah, but and like I said before though, too like that improves security like they're they're not getting basic services. So the infrastructure is not being repaired or rebuilt, they're still in the rubble of what has happened before. They don't have electricity, they don't have clean water. And they're like, well, as long as America are here. And, you know, insurgents keep attacking them, things are gonna keep breaking down. So they were just, and then they then there was, of course, Muktar to us. It is influence over them as well because he's he had an army and and a little political movement. And he was very anti occupation. So this is just fuelling his narrative immensely. He's like licking his lips going ohh boy, this is really good for me. The fact that they're really, you know, starting to rally against the. 

OK. And then of course, we had the Abu Ghraib scandal as well, still fresh in the minds of many Iraqis, as it was a couple of days earlier and the ongoing impact of that abuse, also a catalyst. So there's there's a lot going on. There's a lot. 

Yeah. Yeah, so, so, and if they attack, they'll be great the week before with and you take that story into account as well. It's like, well, you know, the lines between who the good guys and the bad guys are are starting to get very blurred, aren't they? In the hearts and minds of the Iraqi citizens. 

They condemned yeah. President Bush during the protest, Prime Minister, British Prime Minister Tony. There as well as ex dictator Saddam Hussein, and they gave the trio the pun name of the triangle of. Death, which was. The same nickname. I think that they called the region within the South of the capital and they were chanting. No, no to America. There were effigies of Bush, Blair and said I'm I I do like just for a moment. 

Yeah. A good effort. Good. 

I do enjoy at a protest when people go to the effort of paper mache thing and effigy of someone, and if they make it a Carrie. 

I know, I know. 

Picture. 

Yeah, it is good it. I mean it's like it's nice to channel your rage into something a little bit artistic, I think. 

Even better, highlight the the the features that they wouldn't want highlighted. It probably is, quite yeah, quite soothing when you're feeling a bit upset. Just putting that newspaper with your clag glue around the balloon, letting it dry, putting another layer on letting it dry. 

Yeah. 

Good. Is it when it finally dries and you can pop the balloon in the middle? 

Yeah, that's very satisfying. And it does serve to agitate. I think that, you know, if there's an effigy there, the people that are on the opposing side, that the effigy is kind of aimed at, do you get very offended? 

Soothing. Soothing. Ohh, they're outraged. Outraged. And then if anything happens to the. 

Effigy. Yes, yes. 

God help. 

Anyway. 

In Baghdad, protesters by the thousands crowd of square denouncing a proposed US Iraqi security pact that allows American troops to stay three more years. This is where U.S. Marines tore down a statue of Saddam Hussein during the 2003 invasion. Now an effigy of President George W Bush. Was put on the same pedestal. 

Is it that that's just uh Alanis Morissette might want to write a song about it. I don't know if it is by definition. 

Yeah. 

That, but it's very symbolic, you know, it's and it's like the cameras for that one were a lot for the, but the effigy wasn't nearly as impressive as the statue, but it did fall down at one stage into the crowd, and they saw it to pieces. 

Symbolic. 

Hmm. 

No. But did you? Was it, was it like, would you look at it and go? That's definitely Bush. Like, was it a good likeness? 

Uh. I was I there? There's not a lot of quality footage there. So it's kind of it's, it's a bit of a Loch Ness Monster, you know, it's just blurry kind of Sasquatch. 

And shines. Yeah. OK. 

So but I guess like they tore it to pieces. They're very cranky and, you know, they did say, like, the wars been finished for two years and we didn't get anything. Our country was the centre of terrorism and there's no electricity or infrastructure or anything. So there's and there's attacks every day. I mean, fed up and you would be pushed to probably do extreme things to at least try and get your message. 

You would be. 

Cross. Yeah, it was seen as a powerful symbol of Iraqi frustration, nationalist sentiment, and resistance towards the foreign occupation and a pretty volatile time. 

Yeah. 

Ah, boss boss. Just to get away from all that chaos. 

Hmm. 

You know what else was volatile? But in the most couch potato self serving lazy way? WrestleMania 21. Thank you very much. At the Staples Centre, we've done wrestling for TV and sport, but I guess it just depends on which way the winds blowing and how much content we have on any week, isn't it? And this week wrestling is sport. As wrestling is real, ladies and gentlemen. 

It's probably my favourite in the sports segment, so let's keep it in sport this this. 

It's well, there you go. Yeah. 

Is a sport I like to hear about. 

WrestleMania goes Hollywood and they went to LA with the staples. 

That was the tagline, wasn't it? 

So which is? 

Not a big venue for a WrestleMania. Hmm. You know, when you look at it now, like they, I mean, WrestleMania 3 Pontiac Silver down, 93,173 tattooed in my brain, but now it's like they're at the Staples Centre and I think it's only like 20 odd. 

1000 people. Yeah. And they're well, they're just transitioned from WWF. Recently we've spoken about that at length. 

That's right, the world. 

A couple of years. Ago so. 

Wildlife Fund. You mean you talk about? 

So WWE still new branding. 

Talk about losing your title. My goodness, we went to the World Wildlife Fund. 

You know this WrestleMania was a major shift in their direction as well. We had some new stars starting to cement their place at the top, so they. 

Well, we're getting to the we're getting to the end of the attitude here as well. That's you know, that's been and gone and now it's it's in a bit of limbo. Like, where's the business gonna go? 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

To Hollywood, apparently. 

Well, they were. They were parroting famous movies, I think as well as part of the the LA Glitz going Hollywood. 

Ohh they sure. 

Were you? Won't answers. 

I think I'm entitled to. 

Them you won't answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. 

Son, we live in a world where I am the champion and this championship must be guarded by my men at whatever. 

Cost and you will know my name is the Lord. When I lay my vengeance upon thee. Now, can you dig that sucker? 

Me talking to. 

Me. You're talking to me? 

You're talking to us? 

You got to know. 

My name is Stone Cold Steve Austin, and tonight I unleash hell. Would I be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance? Just one chance? To shine on the grandest stage of the mall and tell my enemies that they may try at wrestle Mania, but they'll never take. My Dino, are you with me? 

Wow. 

You got a chimp, that guy, Mel Gibson. He's got nothing on you. Woo woo. All right to wrestle Mania. 

Still going wow. 

Lights doing break up there as as one of them I think I had Booker T and Eddie Guerrero doing Pulp Fiction. That was John Cena doing a few good men with JBL and then a whole bunch of them doing taxi driver. I don't know. 

Stupid, ridiculous. 20,000 in attendance, the pay-per-view buy rate was 1.09 million approximately, but it was often considered and it's interesting to look at this in the context of today. Racial Mania 21 is often considered a passing of the torch event and a bit of a changing of the guard. 

Yeah. 

New Guard officially taking over and obviously the breakout moment for two future Hall of Fame as John Cena and Batista. 

Ready for wrestle Mania goes Hollywood. For the first time in WrestleMania history, tag team champions. Go one on. Only one way to win. Find the ladder, retrieve the briefcase and you have won yourself a world title match or any time of the one year Hulkamania. So Mania 21, The Undertaker one on one with the legend killer. He's going for the touchstone and Undertaker reversed it. He got him. Chick, kick, Christy in the head too much to overcome here tonight we're going to see what should be a classic, no doubt. To the colour welcome to Piper's head. It is time for the first ever sumo match. Hockey bono to Big Show in Boston. Out of the Ray EE WWE Championship on the line. JBL versus John Cena. Cena got that look in his eye. Champions one fall to the finish for the World Heavyweight Championship. Blake to talk Batista everything he. 

Knows he stop. That's won the world. 

OK. 

I don't. 

Ohh well. 

Tired. 

That was exhausting. Yes. So like you said, it was that passing of the torch and you heard all the results anyway. Kind of there like they. That was the first ever time they did a money in the bank ladder match though with Chris Jericho, Christian Edge and Chris Benoit. 

I do like running when you don't. 

Shelton Benjamin and Kane and Edge won that one, which meant that they got the the money in the bank and you know what the money in the bank is. You can cash it any time and then win the title. Hopefully. But like you were saying, like it was, Cena and Batista were the 2 championships that changed hands and that kind of was the old guard passing the torch to the new. Guard who we're going to do the next run like Triple H and and JBL very much more attitude R WWF a bit older seen as young Batista as reasonably young as well so they're sort of coming through as the new faces of the company. And then 20 years later you're seeing it all happened again with this thing that everybody's been talking about. 

Hmm. 

Like the the scene, a heel turn where John Cena after being a good guy in wrestling for over 20 years, has turned into a bad guy. Right. But I mean it's it's a it's same same but different like these guys had the title and they gave the title to those guys this time it's like senior is having a shot at the title to basically fuel this story, I guess. And Cody Rhodes is the young champion and seen her as the old guy that's about to retire and he wants one more shot at the title and he's doing what he has said. It is best for business and you would argue that this this heel turn where he for 23 years he's like going out as a bad guy because he's never really been a bad guy during his run. Yeah, it's just phenomenal. But the the devastation that it is causing children is. 

Yeah. I saw I saw. Some footage today because they they are really capitalising on it, so they are replaying the. Out of that moment with with the rock, I'm more upset about the rock turning bad. To be honest, that's my favourite. 

He's been a bad guy. He was always a kind of never a good guy though. 

Yeah, but, you know, he wasn't as bad as what he is now. I have a theory I have. 

Well. Yes. 

A theory that. The rock has possessed John Cena. John Cena doesn't want to be bad because the rock did something weird and like, isn't he like the devil or something? 

Oh. 

I think, yeah, something to do with souls. I think. I think the rock is possessed. John Cena and I think John Cena will come out of this possession at some point and go back to being a good guy, but then just retire because it's. 

Ohh he's he wants their soul, yes. Yes. Who do you reckon? I reckon so, Alexa, Alexa Bliss and the White Six with their cult powers, could bring him out, yeah. 

All too much. 

The right. Potentially I and but it's, but I think the whole set up is for Cody now to be the good guy. Right? Because because John was the good guy. But now that he's being the bad guy, everyone thinks Cody's good. Yeah, but they were replaying that moment, and I think that John Cena came out and said. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Something like not liking anyone or I I don't need you fans and. 

You know, toxic relationship with them all, yes. 

And there, there's this one kid in the scene. 

Well, he points it out. He goes, including that little kid over there. 

The in the seated shirt and it's wearing. You just see the lip trembling and the eyes welling up. And I just thought ohh my gosh, he must feel really bad for doing that because I'm sure he's a nice guy. 

And the hat is just the full uniform. 

I know. I know. I think he's a really nice guy. I think he continues. He's got the record for the most wishes granted in the Make a wish foundation like now he's a bad. 

Eddie Eddie wrestler. 

I'd go out. 

In George too, you know, like how can you be a bad guy if you're wrestling in jaunts? 

See you then. 

I mean, they just don't say evil, do they? At all. There's nothing evil about jaws. 

Not really. Yours. 

Ohh, there's nothing evil about George. How can you tell? The Pope used to wear them. In his spare time, when he. Nothing evil about George. Hey, let's do music. 

No. OK. You OK? Number one is still the same. The the guy that was lip syncing. Peter Kay to Tony Christie. That one? Yeah. 

Ohh is this the way to Amarillo? 

Is this the way to Amarillo? 

Hello. 

Every night I've been hugging my pillow, dreaming dreams of Sweet Marie who waits for me. Show me the way. 

It's quite the banger. 

It is a bit. 

Catchy, isn't it? 

Yeah, I don't know. We didn't talk that much about it last week really, because I actually forgot to load the grabbing before we started. So I think I did it in post, but I just wanted to acknowledge it again. 

That's alright. And we did talk about it cause the video clip was good and cause one of the ronnies fell over. One of the two ronnies. 

Yes, and it's just quite bizarre. Of that Peter Kay. All it was was a bunch of comedians lip syncing to the original song. Yeah, but yeah, well. 

This is lip lip syncing on a green screen, yeah, but it's number one for a while too. I was looking. I was looking. At the the. The upcoming weeks and it's it's there for. 

Wouldn't. 

A black piece you off if you were trying to get. To the top of the charts. 

If you were like, I don't know who's big UK artist at the moment, busted busted would be a bit annoyed, wouldn't they? 

Ah, the the people have spoken, bustard. Yeah, they'd be upset. Well, OK, well, too bad. 

You're number one for us here in Australia. Beautiful soul. By Jesse McCartney. Petty fish. I don't want just any. 

I want you and your beautiful. So you're the one I want to chase. 

We spoke about him some other time, was he? He must have been a hatch or. Something I reckon I don't know that we did really. 

I think we did. 

I've heard that song somewhere. I've heard it somewhere and the only place I would have heard it would be. 

On your iPod, on your iPod Nano, maybe. 

Yes, well, this is the problem with family. Using my iTunes every now and then I do get some pretty weird stuff coming up in. OK. Yeah. Yes. Thanks. Yep. 

Surprise, it's Jesse McCartney. He started acting and singing in community theatre at age 7. Quite the talents got his first major break as Jr Chandler on all my children from 98 to 2001. 

I'm really ****** *** if that song comes on when I'm in the middle of the gym doing a. 

Dead. Lift your beautiful soul. Beautiful soul lifting those weights. 

I'm just not gonna be able to pick it up. I'm not gonna be able to pick O. 

Joined the Boy band called Dream St in the early 2000s, had moderate success, but they disbanded in 2002 due to legal issues and parental concerns. 

It's just not gonna work. Uh-huh. 

I think their parents said they weren't allowed to. They were concerned. 

And thinking boys should be hanging out with each other. I have concerns. You're definitely not staying at his place. His parents just not even present. They'll let anything happen. 

I have. Yeah, they'll probably let you have a. Drink. 

Yeah. Yeah. Ohh well, if they told you to stick your head in a fire, would you? Yeah, you probably bloody would get home. 

His solo career really took off in 2004 with the debut album Beautiful Soul, and obviously this is the title. 

Yes. 

Track significant success worldwide. He did go on to do a lot of other stuff. He actually Co wrote the single Bleeding Love for Leona Lewis. 

Bleeding. Bleeding. 

You shouldn't be worried about Jesse McCartney. I want your soul cut. You open and you're bleeding. Love keeping it? Not that. No wonder. 

You cut me. You cut me open and I keep bleeding off. 

I think that song. 

Parental concerns. 

I remember. Yes, it's a bit more, but maybe sociopath. Perhaps you cut me open and I keep bleeding. Love that song. I. 

Jessie is a bit dark. Put him on a watch list. That was a big song. 

Remember. In Australia it was and I was like, oh, this Leona Lewis song. We could never get it out of the charts. I think now, though, it could be used promotionally. Really. Yes. So I just keep. I'm just gonna play it pretty straight here and just band aids. 

Yes. 

Keep reading, keep. 

Like you can see it now, you can see it now though, like the little kids gotta, like gets a. 

Yeah, I'm glad you're with band aids, actually. 

Boo Boo. And he's like it's. 

Stick a love heart band aid on it. 

It's like it's OK. Come here. Mum and Dad will make it better and then they put. The band aid on and it's. Band aid. 

He'd be ****** *** that he wrote that song for her because I think that's way bigger than what beautiful soul level was. I had no idea that that was him, that. 

Yes. Well, it's still get paid. Maybe that's it. You know, maybe he's just like he did. Beautiful. So he's like, you know what? This isn't. I'm. 

Wrote that, yeah. 

Not I'll just write stuff, yeah. 

This isn't for me. 

Well, what is for him? Is, is voice over. He voiced Theodore in the Alvin and the Chipmunks movie. 

Ohh. 

Ohh God hmm. Wow. That's a real career high, isn't? It. Yeah, that's. I the chipmunks, never it was. Were you a Chipmunk fan? As a child, you're like, wow, the chipmunks. You get the novelty records. 

I like I like Chippendale. 

Yeah, I just don't know. Like they made money by basically. 

I didn't like Alvin and the chipmunks. 

They just made money by pitching up characters, you know like. That's pretty good, actually. They get hit with the kids, sell more copies. As as Theodore sounds good. Ohh. 

Was less menacing, isn't it? Yeah, maybe he should re release it. 20 years on, as Theodore Theodore's greatest hits. Let's go to. The US charts. 

Bye. 

Sunshine is. 

With someone else like. 

This. 

The dogs on top and I'm gonna. 

Stop, and I ain't going nowhere. 

Well, yeah. Stop, girl, don't you stop. 

Can you please not do? 

That. 

As long as that's number one in the charts, I'm going to make eyes at you and lip sync to it. Over the desk. 

Do you remember that joke where I think $0.50 was being interviewed on a radio station? Hmm. And someone called up and they're like I've. Got a joke for you, 50? 

I'd be careful with $0.50. Didn't somebody call peanut? Get shot last time 50 did an interview at the radio station. Yeah. 

Did you? 

Was it a radio station? Yes. No, but this one was good. 

This was Hulse. OK, right. 

Rang up and he goes. This is this to 50. He's like, what did $0.50 say when his grandmother sent him a sweater in the post for Christmas? And 50s like what? And he's like, Gee, units, that's what she needed him. A sweater. And so he rings up and says to her. Gee, you knit. Gee, you knit. 

Oops. 

I see. Need very good. 

I thought that was great and 50 didn't laugh. You did laugh. Let's recap. Yeah, you. 

See you need, yeah. 

Sorry, a bit slowly uptake there, but I get it now. It's yeah. Yeah. Nice. 

Were that's lovely joke. 

It's very wholesome. I just pictured 50s grandma. 

Yeah, see you then. 

Making knitting him a sweater and he doesn't like it, but he and it's all scratchy and uncomfortable. He wears in any way because he loves his nan. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

He's that kind of guy. Didn't. Isn't that where you got shot? Outside his grandma's house. Yeah, yeah. 

Yes, yes. Where did you get shot? Outside, my grandma. 

No whereabouts on your body? Yes, that's a. Story for another time. 

#5 Boulevard of Broken dreams. 

Green Day on the way out? Obsession. 

Ohh, obsession came on at the physio the other day and I just had the sudden urge to tell the physio. Ohh this song was charting 20 years ago and did you know there's a Spanish? Version but then. I stopped because I thought Physio doesn't care. 

You aren't being you aren't being massaged by the physio. When that song came on, were you? Because that's not good. That's not a good song to have. Come on at the physio. 

No, that would be awkward. They have the physio, the physio. When they touch you it is awkward. It is an awkward experience, no was not being massaged. Can confirm was not and then I didn't share the information because I thought they're not. 

Yeah, yeah. And then you go. No, don't do that. 

OK. 

Gonna care. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't be like. 

Ohh I just had this urge just to tell. 

To do. 

About obsession. 

Well, yes, at the physio you had an urge at the physio. 

All right, new entry in at number. Three. Uh-huh. Hate it or love. It yeah, the game at $0.50, we'll come back to that in a second. 

Featuring $0.50. He's in there like 3 times. 

Since you've been gone no twice, Kelly Clarkson #2 and he is at. 

Ohh. There's only twice. Sorry, yeah. 

Number one, we've his show. 

I had candy shop is still in there twice, cause disco inferno is the one that got bumped out. 

Obviously. Ohh this is not the disco inferno I was. 

Yeah, that's right. So what was this one hated or loved it with the game? 

Looking for Shane Shane? 

Hey, did I love it? It's actually the game, but again feet. 

Featuring citizen. 

Heavily feet $0.50. 

Right. 

And I'm gonna. 

And I ain't going nowhere. She can get to know me. 

Like that. 

Yeah, it's not bad, don't you? Well, this is the Billboard charts, not the Australian one, so maybe it never entered. 

I don't remember that song. I don't think we had it here. I don't remember hearing. 

Them. 

I do like it third single from his album, the documentary, as in the Games album featuring 50 Cent. It was. 

Yes. The games album, but we will remember these guys are beefing. 

They're beefing at this stage and. 

Yes, but $0.50, as you can see, when he he wasn't lying when he said he wrote a lot of the stuff on the games album. Yes, so they must have been friends at some stage, but not anymore, cause the game started running his mouth and saying all those things and then 50 is like what? What are you doing, mate? Yeah. I I made you. 

Running his mouth? Yes. If she didn't like that. Stop running your mouth. The game. 

This song was produced by a duo called Cool and Dray, and there was additional production from Doctor Dre. That's confusing too dries and it samples a song called rubber Band by the tramps. 

M. 

Right. Oh yeah. 

Did you get a grab of that? Did you see our Rd in brackets get? 

No. You ask me. There. 

This grab two please. You didn't read the brackets. 

Well, I was moving very quickly through the workflow, alright and so here's an example of it might be like. 

OK. Well you can get it and put it in. 

Like the the broken wing honey. 

Yeah, that really does sound like that. Hmm. Yeah, I can definitely hear it in there. Yeah. 

I can hear. I can hear that man. Surprised I didn't pick that up myself. Alright? The song reflects both artists rise from challenging upbringings to rap success. 

Good, everything is a remix though, isn't it? So? There you go. 

50 talks about growing up in the ghetto and dealing drugs, or the game talks about gang violence and his membership in the Bloods in Compton. Back to the feud. We know they're feuding at this stage. Tensions are escalating because the game said something mean at his concert. Peanuts been shot 50, said something else. He's been kicked out of G unit and it got to the point where they they were shooting the video clip and this is cool and dry. 

Yeah. 

Yes. 

Hmm. 

That's right. 

Actually filled us in. On this, the producers, they, they shared this information a little bit. 

Right. They spilled. See. 

They spilled the tea. I think it. Was on reddish. Yeah, 50 refused to be in the scenes with the game in the film clip. They had to shoot the they had to. 

For the film clip. So they hadn't shot this. They hadn't shot the film clip before the beat. It wasn't a. Pre beep shoot. 

It was a post beef shoot post beef, so they had to do separate shoots. 

Post beep. Or mid beef. I think it was a mid beef shoot. 

Yeah, probably. Yeah, cause post beef would imply that perhaps they've made up in the middle of the beef full beef. They were going full beef full beef. 

Hmm. Potentially squashed? Yeah, or just faded away. Exactly. So I think it's a mid beef. 

Yeah, OK. They had to because I was watching it and I was like, I want to see. And I was hoping it would be, you know, really. Dodgy like cardboard cut out. Ohh they couldn't. 

Like when somebody doesn't show up to like a family gathering. So you just, like, cut out a photo of them and and superimpose it in the shot. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. Or the video clip, or when Sean had left five and they had a card. They literally had a cardboard cut out of. 

Today, that's really disrespectful. 

Sean. In the in the video I know I was upset cause Sean was. 

Though sure, I'd be busting caps. I would have shot one of their entourage. Yeah. 

My favourite Sean was my favourite. 

So then they had beef too. They superimpose them. There's a scene when they're in a low rider together and I was trying to see. I was squinting, but no, they apparently shot it on a green screen and then superimposed them to make them look like they were in the car together. But. 

Play the song. 

They did a. Very good job. You can't tell you can't tell. 

So same car, same car just showed up to the shoot at different. 

Times. Yeah. No, I think they shot. I think they shot it on a green screen and then put them in the car. 

Sleep wouldn't surely the screen the car would have been on the green screen. Maybe they they drew a line down the middle. 

Maybe I don't know. It was very, very. I was on the green screen. 

And they. Were like if you stay on that side, yeah. 

Will game the game was in the front? The game was in the. Front no this. Is where it gets technical. The game was in the front. And. 50 was in the back and the same. Side as the game, but kind of a little bit over to. To the middle of the back seat so you could see him. OK, so it was very clever. It was very good cinematography. I. 

Yes. Do you reckon they won anything for their special effects? 

Was impressed. I think now that we know this, perhaps they could put it forward because it. 

Ohh, secrets of Hollywood revealed. 

Was. It was very high tech for. The time sure, this is early 2000s, early 2000, you could not, you could not tell. You could not tell this one. 

Yeah. 

Are you kidding? Do you like Star Wars? 

Tell they they were there together and that they like they were enjoying each other's company. It was amazing. 

Industrial light and magic? Yeah, that's. 

********. Should have won. 

An award? Yes, I agree. Alright, there was an album release that you like on the 5th of April 2005. 

Ohh yeah cool. So have you ever seen? You probably see celebrities every now and then wearing band shirts. Hmm. You know, iconic band shirts. And there's a particular band that I think have one of the most iconic logos of all time, but they're really. I've got their tattoo. I've got a tattoo. I have a tattoo of it. That's how much I like the logo. But that. But they're they're more of a a cult bands band. Like, if you know what I mean. So you see lots of influential people wearing their shirts, but they don't really achieve that high level success, but they're still successful. And it's being called corrosion of conformity. They have this cool like Skull logo. That's a combination of a skull and a radiation symbol. And it looks, looks sick. It's really cool. So and I need to get that as a tattoo and I did. 

Don't you have a shirt where it's. Like an acronym. And it says ****. 

Yeah. Yes. Yes, I do. Thanks for that. They released their 7th studio album in the arms of God and it's this is more of a heavy metal sludgy. The New Orleans southern kind of thing. But these guys started out as a punk band. Yeah, ******** punk band. So they've transcended and moved across, like quite a few genres and they are an absolutely fantastic band. Unfortunately with this album, it didn't feature their drummer, Reed Mullen, who is one of my favourite drummers. Although he's he's no longer with us, he passed away. 

Did they? 

A few years ago. Now, and it was also the last to feature Pepper Keenan on vocals and guitar until he came back in 2018 for no cross no crown. But he did rejoin the band in 2014 for some reunion stuff, and then the new drummer Stanton Moore is on this one anyway. Great album, but probably one of the more understated albums of corrosion and comfort. But he always thought that they. You know, Metallica used to do a bit of country stuff and I think that corrosion of conformity, right to kind of country sounding stuff that Metallica wish they could. And here's an example. Love the sound of that, like the Peppers from New Orleans and it's almost got this, like Hurricane Katrina type sound to it. If there was a sound to it, which is weird because this was written before that. But anyway, I just, I love them. They are an awesome band and they're one that's. 

That's good. 

Is definitely worth taking a deep dive on if you want to know a little bit more about like who influences. Some of the people that make some of the music that you might like, maybe, or if you just want to figure out the band behind that really cool logo. 

Yes, very good. We also had a final tour this week, 20 years ago. Destiny's Child, the destiny fulfilled and loving it world tour. 

A final tour. Oh God. They now hang on a second because weren't they? Aren't they on the indefinite hiatus thing now? 

They did the solo albums and then they came back for the album. Destiny fulfilled, but that was kind of the. 

Yeah. 

Right. 

The the official kind of last album. 

Ohh, I can't keep up with these destinys children. You're right, I'm getting ahead of myself. 

Destiny for field and loving it. I'm wondering if it was sponsored by McDonald's, if it's got the love in it in it. That doesn't sound like something Destiny's Child would say. That's. 

Maybe. I don't think so. 

Love and it doesn't feel Destiny's Child, his life just being tacked on the end, I think they. 

Yeah. Yeah, it's almost through gritted teeth. Like it almost says. And it's like destiny fulfilled and obligated to do this. 

Must have been sponsored. 

Hmm. 

It's not even capitalised. It started the tour on the 9th of April 2005 at the Hiroshima some Plaza Hall in Japan. 

Yeah, yeah. 

This was their final global tour, covering 16 countries and over 75 cities worldwide. They did come to Australia, Europe, North America, obviously including the iconic tracks, say my name independent Women Part 1. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

No, no, no. Part 2, survival. Lose more breath. 

But they also they'd also because they've done the solo stuff, they got to do like a a each got to do a solo, which is pretty, pretty big arena concert thing. You know, it's like if you got a good musician in their band, they'll do a solo like a guitar solo or a drum solo or a bass solo or in this case, it's like a Michelle solo. 

They did. 

And then a Kelly solo and a Beyoncé solo. 

Yes, I think Beyoncé got 2 solos and the. Others just got one. 

Ohh that's. 

Yeah, she did, baby boy. Naughty girl and Kelly did dilemma without Nelly and Michelle did. Do you know, I think Michelle did the gospel. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Album. That's right. Yeah. So she she would have gone first. 

She did one of her gospel songs. 

Clearly get that one out of the. 

Probably. 

Way. Early mid set we might go to Kelly and then we'll get to the end. We'll get Beyoncé to just. 

Throw her bangers in there. Maybe she dedicates this gospel. Maybe she dedicated it to to JP. 2. 

Maybe JP, maybe I don't know, but they the, the, that JP's a very Catholic thing. They might be a bit more. 

'S way. No, she did. 

Baptist. 

Yeah, OK. Gospel. Yeah. 

If you know what I mean, I mean. They be. 

Could have been the gospel according to Saint Luke. 

Lutheran. Could be Mormons. You know how the Mormons get down, but we'll see. We'll see. Those documentaries, Mormon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Why did we choose? 

Ohh the. Wives. Yes. Wow. That that was interesting. 

Athlete. 

Stage to sign allowed for a 360° view. I like those stages. 

Yeah. In the round they call that Yep. 

Yes, the costumes were very shimmering and glamorous and designed by Tina Beyoncé's mum. I think Tina did the the costumes all the way through for all the video clips and everything I. 

Stitchy. She was the she was the head haberdasher. Yeah. 

Think she was quite the seamstress? She was. She was the North American Leg alone grossed over 70 million. 

Well. 

Making it one of the highest grossing tours for a female group at the time, I. 

Yeah. 

Think only second to TLC. 

Yeah, you like that TLC? Say my name. 

Alright, thank you. 

From the. 3. 

Let's go to. Box office. I love this movie number one in the US. 

Hmm. 

I was a huge fan of the comic series and when they brought this to life, it was basically like the comic was the storyboard for the film. I'm talking about a movie called Sin City. The Neo Noir crime anthology film that was directed by the guy who illustrated the comic, Frank Miller, and it was Co directed with. Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Twitting Quarantine Twitter quarantine no director to seed or two in there. Great movie. Great, great film. 

The truths of Sin City. 

Will be shattered. Let the girl go. 

You know who my father is? You can't do a thing to me, hardigan. 

You'll be arrested. Nothing can stop this. 

Time to prove to your friends that you're. Worth it down? 

We'll fight the. 

Cops and the mobs. We'll go to war. 

This isn't some bar room, bro. 

This is the bad day. Y'all are nothing days. You're back. 

It's a great movie, very good, and it had this really cool visual style cause it's all kind of shot on green screen. Very much all sound stages. So it had this really. Cool, faithful adaptation of what the the the the cells of the comic pages look like. That's why I was like the the comic was the storyboard. They didn't need the storyboard, the movie. Because. It was just, you know, the comic brought to life, which was just wonderful. 

Wasn't it mainly black and white? But then there was little bits of colour here and there. 

Little splashes of colour to emphasise characters or objects and you would think ohh you know it's black and white. It was done to great effect like the style is like nothing that I've seen done all that. I mean if you think it's 300 like the movie 300 it's very similar to that in a lot of ways like that was a Frank Miller comic book as well but that was directed by. Zach Snyder, whereas this one obviously Frank Miller's just taking the reins and brought his own vision to life, which I think. Is awesome and it's. 

A bunch of different stories, isn't it? Come into woven stories, hmm? 

Yeah, it it's got, it's got a little pulp fictiony kind of feel to it. 

So there's the. 

Hug goodbye. So and it's based on the books. So there's several books in in Sin City. Like the hard goodbye, the big fat killer and that yellow *******. Right. And so the hard goodbye is about this guy Marv who is played by Mickey Rourke. And he's all disfigured. He's an old tough guy that's been fighting all of his. Life and he's seeking vengeance for a character called Goldie, who was played by Jamie King, who was a woman who showed him kindness. And then there's this one called the big fat kill, which is a character called Dwight McCarthy, who I think is played by Clive Owen and he's in a conflict with these prostitutes and a gang of corrupt cops after. The death of this guy called Jackie Boy, who's played by Benicio del Toro and then the the third one. That yellow ******* is Bruce Willis playing John Hart. 

That's. 

Megan and he's trying to save Nancy Callahan, who was played by Jessica Alba, who just that was peak Jessica Alba. Like she just you had you saw all the promos of her dressed in the in the cowgirl outfit like pole dancing and stuff. 

Ah, that's right. Yes, I remember now. 

Ohh it was just it's just it was a special thing and and so. So there's that story as well and I think. 

Yeah. 

It was quite the cast on top of those people that you've mentioned, there was also Elijah Woods. Rosario Dawson was great. I remember her and and Brittany Murphy. She was in there too. 

Ah. Yeah. Yes, yes. She was in there as well. She was also. Awesome. And your $40 million budget grossed and I think gross 21.9 during its opening weekend in the states, but it earned around 74 domestically and internationally somewhere around 80 million or 150 million or something like that. Who cares about another. It was a great movie. 

Yeah. 

There was, I think it was 80 internationally. So all up, it was just under 100 and. 60 million, which is pretty good. 

As far as comic book films go, and being true to the source material, there's not a lot that are probably as true as what Sin City was, I think. 

Pretty good for a. 

Budget of 40. Was it longer than a standard film because it had all the different stories? I'm trying to remember? 

I don't know like films these days are so freaking long. I don't think you could really even say that like a standard. 

Yeah. 

Still, I don't know. For me is 90 minutes. Thank you very much so that I don't fall asleep, but I can be in bed before 10. Thank you. 

90 minutes? Yes, absolutely. 

With an intermission, please. 

That would be great. Just so I can go. For a week. 

And get some lollies exactly here in Australia we still had we still, we still had robots in the the number one spot at the box office. We did have a big reality TV show premiere on the 6th of April 2005. Meet the barkers. 

But mainly go for a week. Bank worker might be used to, yeah. 

Three vodka cranberries each isn't gonna do. 

This we drink like 12. 

OK, sure. 

Oh my gosh, so much better already. 

Travis, he's the ultimate musician. He's a wonderful. 

Father, did you have good baby dreams? 

And a hopeless romantic. 

Beautiful. 

Meet Shana. She's an incredible woman and an awesome mom. She was Miss USA. She's an amazingly talented actress. 

My mother was dead. 

We're getting married. 

And we're starting our family. 

We may not look like your average couple. 

Our love is anything but average. Ohh boy this. 

Was. Garbage. Absolute garbage. 

It was another one in the MTV series of of couples, and this is, of course, Travis Barker, probably 1 and 2. 

But people lapped it up. They were interested in this celeb reality at the time, right? 

Then why? Shana, Shana mogul, former Miss USA, she also did a bit of acting as well. Ran for two seasons, 16 episodes in total, showcasing their daily. 

Yes. 

Life blending the chaos of rock'n'roll which you heard there coming out in the toilet out of Travis's. Mouth. 

Yeah. 

After three vodka cranberries. 

Yeah, well, 10/12. 

I'm not sure 1212 the domestic responsibilities and I love Arthur. 

I still say that's pretty lightweight if we're being, like, get ****** fit, mate, you know, this is the thing. People who aren't celebrities, they drink way more than that. Yeah, mate. Like, this whole celebrity thing. Ohh. Got a drinking problem. You mate. You wouldn't even know how we see. The thing is, with being a celebrity is you have to work to do something. You have to master your craft, whether it be playing drums or spending money or doing all that stuff. 

Yes, 12. For the 12? Yeah, that's 12 vodka cruises. 

Soft. 

Well, vodka. Cranberries, mate. That's called Wednesday. OK. And do you know why we do that? We do that to cope because our lives didn't turn out as well as yours. Buddy, you know we. 

And so he finishes. 

Were all told that we were gonna be OK and we could be anything we put our mind to, but we weren't. So we have 12. 

Vodka cranberries on a Wednesday. He finishes his bomb. She has a shower and then the. Maid brings. In the child. Yeah, the children then comes. 

You know what happens to us. 

They don't even have to deal with their kids with the hangover because they're mates there. She's like, here's the kid for half a scene and give the kid a piece of toast and then not take the kid away and you can deal with your hangover. 

No. 

It's got a. Yes. 

There you go. Have a little nap. You poor deers. 

Yes. 

Dear what a revolting show. What a revolting show. 

It highlights both the glamorous and mundane aspects of their lives, so a couple of the standouts? Travis's birthday bash, where she organises an extravagant party for him, gives him a new drum set and a gold Cadillac, a gold Cadillac. 

Yeah. 

Like. 

Right off, just get out of. I don't know. I don't wanna see how they're. I'm happy to listen to music and consume your art. 

And the drum sets. 

Whatever that may be, but I don't. Travis. Yeah, I got, really. 

I remember when you met him, yes. 

Starstruck you did. Yeah, cause they're always on the watching TV all the time. I had to. 

Very much no. 

Sit here and watching Vinny been. 

Watching him throw up on meet. 

Get down Cadillacs and all that stuff and I'm like. 

The Barkers and then you got to see him IRL. 

Well, this is the thing. Because of the this whole reality show created this perception that I wasn't worthy of being in the presence with this individual. But he can't even hold down 12 ******* vodka cranberry. 

Juice. And I love that he's having it with. 

Cranberry juice? Yeah. Why? Like, let's go, mate. Do you wanna? 

No. Maybe. Maybe you had a. 

UTM, you never know. 

I'm gonna throw down the gauntlet right now. Travis bark, you if you're listening, I'm challenging you to a drink. Off. Now I think he's in rehab. I think he's actually been sober for quite some time as well. All the more reason. Let's go, buddy. Let's go. It's time for a relapse. Just to see how the real people do it. 

13. 

Oh, OK. 

Throughout the series. Shana was depicted as enjoying a leisurely lifestyle, often relaxing in bed, probably hungover. As well, this led to discussions among viewers about her role in the household and her dynamic with Travis, and it hinted the shows throughout the series hinted at underlying tensions in their relationship. People started asking questions, and then they divorced shortly after the series finished. 

Yeah. Yeah. Wrap it up. 

Hmm, there you go. But now he's found love again. 

Was it, was it? Well, it was called. Meet the Barkers, wasn't it? Yeah. Because this is where I got a little bit outraged for no particular reason. I'm more outraged about the. 

Make the boxes. That one. And now he's keeping up with the Kardashian. 

Yeah. 

So he. 

That see, that sounds like a drinking challenge, doesn't it? Keeping up with the Kardashians, I tell you. 

If. 

What I'll have. 

I'm gonna gonna challenge Kim to a. 

I'll I'll put. 

Drinking all of the Kardashians in front of me, right? This is. I'm throwing the gauntlet down every single Kardashian. What is it? Courtney. Chloe. Kim. The mother? Yeah, sure. Bring him on. Bring him on. What is it? Is about 7 or 8 of them. Yep. Yep. 

Right. 

The sisters do the Jenner sisters count they're they're not Kardashians. My last name, Kylie and Kendall. They're all spelled with K. 

Ohh. 

I will have one drink for every Kardashian per round, and we'll keep going until there's only one person standing and I reckon I'll win that as well. 

So he is back on the. 

Although having said that, they've been to Diddy party, so I don't know about that at all, gonna. 

Do that. He did feature prominently on the Kardashians. It's not keeping up with the Kardashians anymore, just the Kardashians. 

Yeah. 

That somebody overtook them? Clearly. 

And I had they they had the big wedding, they had the big wedding and then off the back of the wedding they released a special series called till. Death do us part. 

Travis and Courtney, yeah. 

Colon, no, Courtney and Travis, thank you very much. You said it the other way around. No, you said Travis and Courtney. 

Ohh, who did I say? Travis and Chloe? 

Courtney and Travis gonna get. 

Oh yeah. Ohh sorry ladies first, but they're both alien lizard people anyway, you know? 

Kardashian. Kardashian first. Which provides an intimate look into their wedding celebrations because they think. Wasn't the wedding sponsored by Insert Fashion House here? No, no. And not vodka cruiser. No, it was one of the fashion houses. I don't know. Like a Gucci, but it wasn't Gucci this. 

Pepsi Pepsi. They didn't get married. OK, yeah. It'd be it'd be Dangerfield or off your tree or something like that. Have a look at them. There's a poster children for off your tree. 

It does look. 

A bit trashy. 

Hollywood royalty, my ****. Can't drink, **** and gets dressed at off your tree. 

Just just a little bit. 

No, it was like one of those big fashion houses, Versace, maybe. I don't know, Versace. I don't know one of those. 

If. Because Courtney, Courtney, Courtney. 

It's vans, it's vans. 

Kim had a fight because Kim was wearing something in that brand and she felt it overshadowed her wedding because that brand was her wedding, Dolce and Gabbana. Baby. 

Really. 

Maybe tell Jane Gabbana. I don't know, but they had a fight. But there was a show till death do US part. Courtney and Travis. They obviously had a baby. I love the the baby announcement, I thought. That was fantastic. What was that? Where she went to the concert and she held up the sign. 

Ohh. 

That was actually pretty cool, cause that was straight, ripped straight from the video. With Travis. I'm pregnant. I think it was all the small things. Travis. I'm pregnant. Ohh, yeah. Really good. Yeah. Life imitating art. In that case. Yeah. 

Yeah. 

The video for was it all the small things? Yeah, that I thought that was great. Very. 

Good. 

1. 

Books that we did not read. 

What a bit of a religious theme running through this show, we've had JP, the second got Michelle singing her gospel stuff. We've got Jesse McCartney wanting people's souls, and now we've got some Christian apocalyptic fiction. One of my favourite genres in at #1. 

We really do. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

Ohh. 

Watch out. Watch out, Luke. 

Do you think that? Why don't you? But somebody agrees with that or not. I mean, any engagements, good engagement, right in this day and age. 

OK, Christian apocalyptic. Yeah. 

The fiction Christian apocalyptic fiction by the Masters of Christian apocalyptic fiction, Tim Lahay and Jerry B Jenkins with the rising. 

Ah. OK, let's go with some. The dark suspense. Marilena Carpathia has only. And dream to be a mother. So when a mysterious clairvoyant promises the fulfilment of this dream. I'm sorry I didn't source any other music, so we're just going with this, OK? Marlena does not hesitate through genetic engineering and the power of the Prince of Darkness himself. Marilina is about to become a chosen vessel, one who will unknowingly give birth to the greatest he. Old has ever earned, haha. Toodle, pip, cheerio, halfway around the world, God's plans are suddenly being carried out too young boy. Ray Steel is. Determined to avoid one day taking over the family business instead, Ray sets. Phantom becoming a pilot so he can get up there and fight Jerry in the skies soon cap atheists and steals lives will intersect and good and evil will clash. An explosion that will shake the world. I think that worked really well, don't you? What will happen? 

Yes, right next Saturday. 

Stay tuned for more Christian apocalyptic fiction on the Christian apocalyptic fiction channel. Look, there's even organs just like in the church. 

It's perfect. 

Ohh, it does scream Antichrist, doesn't it? Cause I think I think Marlena has the Antichrist too. Is then in. This is like a prequel to the other books by Tim and Jerry, Tim and Jerry, not Tom and Jerry, Tom and. 

All right. Right Team and Jerry. OK. Cool. Cause I was thinking, OK. 

Jerry. The they've got a name. The sets the series the SOMETHING series. Anyway. It's a series and this is the prequel. 

The books, do they? Doesn't matter, I reckon if you Google Christian apocalyptic fiction, I'd like the SEO. It would be off the chain would be the first thing that pops up. 

Will you Google and tell? Me what? The series is called. 

Alright, what's the? 

OK, you keep going then. 

Alright, so should I start with Natasha's? 

Review. Ohh sure yeah. 

Not. 

Of the rising Natasha, one star. This wasn't a comfortable. Read for me. 

Really, why not? Just little uncomfortable. I reckon she. I reckon she had the wrong music. 

I don't know. She didn't elaborate, just wasn't comfortable. 

Christian apocalyptic feature I've spelt this terribly. 

Looking for the series that this is the prequel to if you go Tim. 

La. 

OK. 

Oh, he was the Christian minister that then became the author, the left behind series. I think it was. Yes, the left behind series, the wildly popular series of novels imagining Jesus's return to Earth in the modern era. 

I thought he was a baseball player. That's what says here. Cool. I've been doing very good at that. Kate Osborne gave it two stars. Do you reckon that's Kelly Osborne? Yes. Why don't we go with that? Much better than some of that smutty beach reading people put out. I I mean, you know, these good source material for. 

:). Enjoy smoking, beach reads. 

They're great. No, I don't read. That's the. 

Do you? 

Honest you like? 

But I'm interested to know. What smutty Beach reading is actually? 

Smutty beach reading. 

Gonna be reading smug when you're lying in your Speedo on. 

The beach, do you? No, no. 

The hot sun? No. 

No, not at all. Umm. 

Kelly. Mark Stacey three stars. I'm teaching the Book of Revelation on Wednesday nights and I thought it would be fun to supplement my study with these fictitious accounts of end times. 

Ohh cool yeah, just based on I I like a good end times thing. I must admit. Post apocalyptic. Yeah. 

Do you? 

Ohh I just no, I can't deal with that. 

With everything else going on. 

I I'm kind of one of those guys who's like, I reckon I'm a chance. I reckon I'm more of a chance or just of having a decent life if the rest of the world goes around me, that's what I think. 

For being the Antichrist. 

OK. Elena, three stars. So much is explained like Nikki's middle name, jetty. I I guess they don't look like the devil is in the detail. 

Perhaps. 

Great. Thanks, Selena. Now, I don't have to read it. We yeah, I know Nicki's middle name because that's been keeping us awake. 

Uh-huh. 

Jeannie, four stars. Now, Jeannie is gonna tell us exactly how much of. A smutty beach 3 this could be though. 

Is this like a parents guide? She's doing a parents guide. Yeah, I used these. I'd never thought I'd use a parents guide. But parents, guides are really handy when there's this borderline film or something that you wanna see that you wanna perhaps drag your child along to because you can't find anyone to. 

You start with. Oh. 

After them. So it's like ohh read the parents go just in case if there's anything too traumatic in there, I'll, I'll, I'll say no. But if it's all OK, we'll take the yeah. 

OK. Well, Jeannie, four stars has the posted pop elliptic fiction Christian stuff. Parents guide bad words none, though there are some minor words. 

Go. 

There are no curse words. I'd like to know an example of a minor word, though. Jeannie, I don't. I don't fully understand. There's minor words, but there's not. 

Yeah. 

Curse words. Maybe. Damn would damn be a minor word. 

Yes, protential. 

Sexual content. OK. Are you ready for your smutty beach treats? 

Ohh yeah, here we go. This would be interesting. Is there sexual content? 

OK, there is there is mentions of someone sleeping with someone else. There is divorce. There is homosexuality in brackets, though not thoroughly detailed. 

In apocalyptic Christian fiction. Yes, yes. 

Oh. 

All the naughty stuff? Yeah. Uh-huh. 

Not thoroughly detailed, just a reference. Two people breaking up. I don't know how that's sexual content. Mentions of a husband almost committing adultery, but he stopped himself. 

He he stuffed himself. 

Mentions of kissing mentions of Nikolai finding out he has two dads mentions of a sperm bank and donors and mentions of flirting. 

Ohh. 

Oh. 

Oh. 

Does that make for a smutty beach read? I'm not sure. There's mentions of kissing. 

Not really at all, not really at all. Well, they said it was better than much better than smutty beach reading, so obviously it's, I think if those things were in it, it would have been a smutty. 

Actions of kissing. 

Beach. Read the opposite of those things. I mean, yes, Michelle's book four stars. That's the username Michelle book Michele's book. Four stars. Maybe she went to put. 

Yes. OK. That's Michele's name. Yeah. 

Of using and hit enter and. Went off. How do I? Undo that now Michelle's. Book. I guess sometimes Michele's book forever. 

Ohh, because she was supposed to be Michele's. 

Book reviews she I think she is. I think she's gonna be Michelle's book reviews and she hit enter and she's. 

My gosh of my critical error. And she's like, you know what, I'm just gonna lean into it. I'll learn it. I'll learn it. Why not? And I I think that speaks to her integrity. So I am looking now to Michelle's book for all of my book reviews. Yes. Yes. 

Now stuck with this. 

For all your book reviews, maybe you could follow her on good. 

Read step aside, Louis. Here comes Michelle's book. 

Hey. 

I was given an arc in exchange for my honest opinion. I'm not sure what an arc is. I I I mean in the Christian sense of the word. It's probably a giant ship that you put 2 of. 

Arc. Advanced it's probably an advanced something copy, advanced latest. 

Every animal in. Maybe Ohh an advance review copy. Oh yeah. There you go. Good. I'm glad we got to the bottom of. 

Review. We. 

That app pretty. 

So, master be Michele's book review if she gets in advance. 

I did prefer the fact that she might have been given a bonus giant boat that you could put two of every animal on the face of the earth thing, but then you know, yeah, it's OK. 

Well, let's go with that, we'll. 

Go with that. 

This book cover is on my Pinterest board and in my blog, Michelle Dragland. Journey. OK, good. Thanks, Michelle. OK, so maybe I won't be looking to Michelle's book for any more reviews. 

Well, maybe you should go to her blog, find out more about her journey. 

Maybe. Maybe. Who else have? 

We got Holly Linquist 2 stars the rising and neat demonstration of literary poops on erring propensity to rise to the top. 

Right. I thought rolled downhill. I guess literally doesn't. It goes with rises to. The top alright, sure. 

Unless it's in a. Creek. 

Yes. 

Seriously, why do people read this? Why did I read this? And most importantly, why can't I seem to stop? I think the I think the answer lies in the realm of stupidity. There are so many layers of stupidity. 

I was about to ask you that question, Holly. Ohh, it's a page Turner. That's why holly. 

Just easily defined and just as easily avoided. However, there is a kind of stupidity so mind stoppingly incomprehensible that it has kind of a beguiling siren call, like that inane cult movie we always want to inflict on our friends, or that YouTube clip. We don't want anyone to know we've actually. Scene. This is how I feel about the left behind series. Ohh. By the way, that kid from the omen could totally kick little. Nikolai's ****. 

Ohh, I'd agree with that. That kid from the omen, Damien. He's terrified. 

So. 

Phil, that was a nice surprise to have some Christian apocalyptic kitchen. Thank you. Thank you for putting that in there. Thank you. And I'm surprised and a little bit disappointed at Michele's because I thought that would have been better, but anyway. 

It's always quite thrilling, isn't it? 

We are at the end. It's nice to review things as you go sometimes just so we ensure that we never do it again and we probably will do it again next week. So stay tuned for that anyway. It's the the Hatch matches and the dispatches segments. So do this. It's like I was talking to myself, so like my inner monologue came out, then a celebrity who was getting married this time, Tony, he's a very famous person who said this. 

Together and individually, we are strengthened by sharing. 

Oh, for God's sakes. You know who it is. If you said Prince Charles. They got married. We did the engagement a little while back. 

With dates February. 

It's a quick. 

Quick engagement to wedding. 

Yeah, because they had to have a civil ceremony because she was divorced, remember? 

Well, they're Royals as well. It's not that they need to save up for anything. 

Quickly, which is probably disappointing cause you know people expect these big, extravagant weddings. Remember Kate and Wilson? 

I liked it. It was a little bit low. Pete, you gonna remember? 

Megan or Meghan and Harry S was the affair, wasn't it? 

These that these people are bankrolled by the the the people. 

Well, good common folk. 

These two low key low key civil ceremony at Windsor Guildhall followed by a service of prayer. 

Yeah. 

And dedication St. George's Chapel. 

Ohh instead of like a proper you know the service of prayer and dedication no Nutbush you know. 

No chicken dance. 

No chicken dance. Exactly. None of that stuff. 

That's disappointing. 

That's no, is it? No. Is it not? 

Disappointing. So it was it was the week of February 10 or somewhere around then that we there was the engagement and the they had the Windsor family heirloom that belonged to the Queen Mother that she's Camilla's wearing. Yeah. 

That's right. 

Ohh the the ring. Yes, yes, yes. 

Yeah, it was moved to the Guild Hall due to licencing issues, so I think they did want to get on the ****. So I think prayer and dedication is actually code. Or alright, we've finally done it. We've finally tied the knot. We've been living a life for years and years and years. I was in a fake marriage and all of that sort of stuff. And then now I finally am with the person that I intended to be with. So we've gotta go somewhere where we can get on the piece. And if there's no, if there's licencing issues at Windsor Castle, we're going to Guild Hall. That's it. 

10 vodka cranberries. 

Yes, exactly. 

Hmm. 

At least we can have a bar there. Yes. So William was there? Prince William Tom Parker Bowles was a witness. I I guess that was, like, maybe camillo's that you'd be pretty bloody old, though. Yeah. 

Yes. 

Maybe or a brother, maybe? I don't know. They were. They were both witnesses. The Queen didn't go, Frank. Phillip didn't go. They went to the service of prayer and dedication. Yes, they. 

Yeah. Nah, native Phillip? No. They're like ****** that. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Was that nice? 

Joined the Congregation for a strong act of penitence. 

Penitence. Yes from. 

It's a strong act of penitence, is that? 

That's right, it's. I don't know. It's. I don't know. It's like then we now we've well. 

Is that like confession? Are they doing confession? 

Now this is. They're they're doing Christian apocalyptic fiction as far as I'm concerned. We've gone from Catholicism to Church of England to all the other crap in between. So I don't know. Yes, yes. 

And now penitence, penitence. 

Yes. 

That feels like confession to me. 

Well, and even though the queen didn't go, she did host the reception. She did host the reception at Windsor Castle, but because of the licencing issue, everyone was like, let's get the out of. 

Maybe it's like benediction. 

Here and kick onto. The Guild hall where at least we. Can hit the ****. Yeah. Hmm. Anyway, bit of a fairy tale for Grown Ups, they thought there did I do this? Yeah. 

Love me. 

Well. 

Don't ask. We deserve a round of applause for getting. Through that ********, OK. That's the end. We're done. We're done for this week. Anything happening next week, or do you just wanna, like, leave everybody waiting with bated breath and we'll find out then? 

We climbed a dog. What we. 

Love. That sounds so messed up. I'm looking forward to getting into that. Yes, yes, I think there was also somebody who was on the most wanted list in the United States that was brought to justice. 

Don't we? I love cleaning, cloning, talk so we can talk about. A cloned dog. 

When confessed to being guilty that that story was interesting. 

That's cloned cloned dog, someone cloned dog. Ohh, and we've got a we've got an acorn update as well. 

Icon. 

Akon remember Akon, the singer? The lonely? Yes, yes. 

Yes. Yes, smack that that guy, yeah. 

An update on his you know how he was building the weird acorn land somewhere overseas? 

Ohh yeah, he's his country, his own country. 

I've got an update. Got an update on his country. 

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