
T minus 20
The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Bali 9 busted and YouTube gets its first upload
Rewind to 17 to 23 April 2005 – when the Bali 9 are busted with 8.3kg of heroin, a teenager drove a tram like a boss and YouTube dropped its very first “like and subscribe.”
🚨 Bali 9 busted.An Aussie drug smuggling op was blown wide open as nine young citizens were caught in Bali with 8.3kg of heroin strapped to their bodies. The kicker? Aussie police tipped off Indonesian authorities, sparking a national outcry, life sentences and executions that shocked the country.
🚋 Tram Boy’s joyride.A 14-year-old Melbourne teen hijacked a Yarra Tram and drove it like a seasoned pro—manual track switches, passenger pickups, even PA announcements. His smooth run ended in a high-drama arrest and he became an instant folk hero.
🏈 Draft day drama.The 2005 NFL Draft saw Alex Smith picked #1, while future GOAT Aaron Rodgers awkwardly waited until pick 24. ESPN’s coverage was basically a press conference. This was the year the draft started morphing into the three-day reality TV bonanza it is today.
📹 First YouTube video ever.Jawed stood in front of elephants and muttered something about trunks. Boom. History made. Me at the zoo dropped on April 23, launching a platform that would become everything from beauty tutorials to conspiracy chaos. And yes, the comments are still unhinged.
👻 Reynolds goes rogue in Amityville.Ryan Reynolds shocked fans in The Amityville Horror remake, which topped the US box office with haunted house vibes and shredded abs. Based on the infamous Long Island murder house, the film was a spooky hit and gave Reynolds serious creepy dad energy.
🧢 Jay-Z drops luxury time bombs.Hov teamed up with Audemars Piguet to launch his own Royal Oak watch line with only 100 made. If you snagged one in 2005, it came with a preloaded iPod and a truckload of clout. Today? You’re sitting on six figures, easy.
📺 Nick Kids’ Choice Awards: orange, slime & low-rise jeansDrake Bell, Hilary Duff, Green Day, and Johnny Depp (yes, slimed) ruled the Nickelodeon stage. Avril, The Incredibles and Queen Latifah took the high honours.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
17 April 2005.
This is the talk show.
Ice breaker. Don't judge me yet. This is bananas.
My question is, who approved that ****?
Do you see where this is going?
Not really.
It's. Hi. I just had a visual of shoving tots in my ears when you said comfort food.
It's like comfort food for your ears, a little podcast that we call t -, 20 that rewinds to this week in history, 20 years ago, back when it might have been your heyday with your host Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel. Why?
Your ears. I just went straight there. I don't.
Ohh potato sauce. Hmm.
Know why? But hello. Hello everybody. Welcome. We're rewinding 20 years to 2005, and this week we are rewinding to the 17th to the 23rd of April.
They were caught trying to smuggle more than 8 kilogrammes of heroin out of Indonesia with $4 million in drugs strapped to their chests.
This.
We didn't even know what it was.
This became one of the biggest news stories in Australia for years to come.
Yes, many, many years and not. A great outcome either.
No, we'll talk about the arrest of the Bali 9 in the news.
Try. Driver shot himself slammed on the brakes, ran into the back door and he goes. I've just stolen the tram just to hold the.
Tram this has also been charged with the theft of another tram on Friday night.
Nothing like an ambitious youth trying to get hold of a tram and then the conductor shutting himself. I think it. I think that was actually the youth, but we'll find out.
Someone. Them their parents.
What caused him to chat a little bit later on in the lighter side of the news?
With the first selection in the 2005 NFL draught, the San Francisco 49ers select Alex Smith, quarterback Utah.
I can't believe that it's been 20 years since Alex Smith got drafted as the number one quarterback in the 2005 NFL draught, but it is. And to be honest with you, the draught a little bit boring, so you might wanna Fast forward to. That if you're not an NFL fan, it was.
But I mean, there was some controversy, though there was a bit of controversy and I think this is where we sort of started to see it become more of.
There.
An event after 2000.
Yeah, very. Tonight Show and there's there's controversy with the controversial star that was controversial back then, who's also been controversial today. Yes, but it's also. It's a bit of a. Where are they now? I don't know where they are. I know where we are. We're here on the podcast. But I think at the moment, sorry, I'm a bit adult. As a parent, I am a first time parent of a of an only child. There's a lot of firsts.
Obviously.
Yeah, bit more hype around. It all. Oh, love it extra bit of controversy.
That happened. And and some of them sort of. Chartered territory where people impart knowledge and whatnot, but others are a little bit unchartered and given that I'm of a generation that that didn't get a phone until I was about 18 years old. How old were you when you got a phone, Mel?
I got a phone in 1996. I'm gonna say 97 or 98.
Really. So what were you then? You were at about about 17 or 18. There it is. You've got it. There. It's a multi. Is that it?
It's a Motorola. D560 and check this out. This is the best feature. A retractable antenna, isn't it? It's quite quite the brick and people probably look at me and go wow, you kept that you're so sentimental. No, my dad was using it as his primary phone.
Ohh it's got a extendable antenna. That's a solid piece of deck, isn't it? Look at it.
Yeah.
Probably up until a couple of years. He loved the retractable antenna, yeah, but now because it, you know, you got, like, 3G-4G all that stuff. It just wasn't working anymore. But if he could have, he would have kept it. But it looked very different in the 90s because I had the case, you know, the plastic case. So you could still press the buttons and I clipped bit on the back. And I.
Like serious. Yes. Yeah. Yes, we've added a bit of size. To it as well, yeah.
In the cargo pants, I clipped it on. I was 1.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so.
Of those got on the. Bus phone clipped to me.
You would have been.
About like 20/19/20 at that stage.
Uh, I was at uni. Yeah, 20 and I bought it from the Vodafone store in the Canberra Centre, which was up the top little pop-up shop where Country Rd. Is these days.
Saying isn't that interesting.
I remember I went with my mum. She had to sign. Which is weird because I I think.
Hang on back. Not be Ryan. Really. To get a phone.
You had to be 21. Maybe he had to. Yeah, I think he had to be 21 because it was a phone plan. Yeah.
None.
No, she. Had to sign for me and I was definitely. I was definitely in uni. I was more than 18 and she had to come.
Sure, I got more no problems when I was 18.
With me. So that was. Yeah, it was. It was an exciting time. And maybe, yeah, we're thinking about a phone.
Hmm.
For our son, perhaps he could. Have this one doesn't connect to anything.
Well, this is the thing. OK, we're talking like you 5, like, 10 years old, 1011 years old. And it's like, have any kids got phones in your class, mate. And he's like, yeah, few of them. I'm like, wait.
I think the majority of them do actually, yeah.
Yeah, I know they're all connected.
Hmm.
I think no. I think before you get that you need to use the house phone for a good five years. Yeah. And you know the thrill of not knowing. It's calling. Yeah, you know it should. Be your mate, it's. Just could be Encyclopaedia Britannica calling could anything?
Could be could be? I mean, if there's an election, it could be any one of the.
Relatives.
Hundreds of politicians.
And then when you call your mate, are their parents gonna answer? Do you then have to make small talk with your mates parents? You've gotta deal with that before you're.
But but but also like but.
Allowed a mobile.
Well, yes. Well, the other thing that they should learn is is the value of the dollar. So they should charge them to SMS like we had. To pay for back in the day.
20 I feel. Like it was $0.26 or 40. Cents.
Yeah. Something like. That but but it is.
Yeah, permanency.
Extraordinary to see. And it's. I don't know if I'm being a loser or not, but that seems very. To me, but everyone's integrated with technology and I do long for a simpler time. Like I feel like in that late 90s and early 2000 period, the technology was practical and it did what it was supposed to do and it was a little bit of fun, but it. Didn't command all of our.
Attention I I think on that phone you still had to remember. People's numbers, I don't think there was a phone book where you could just press the number. You still had to. Yeah. So you were learning, not just landline numbers you were learning off by heart. Friends, mobile numbers.
On your Motorola.
Number.
You might have been, but that's probably just you're. You're a cheapskate with your phone. You probably picked the wrong phone. My Nokia never had that.
It's good I still remember them all. Well, taking taking well.
Problem. Ohh well look the.
3210 was a few years. After that, this late 90s.
Well, you did have to remember your phone number when you're a kid as well, like. Your home number and stuff, yes.
I remember I remember so many home. I wish I could take the home phone numbers out of my brain to make a bit of space for other things to come. In now, because they're kind of useless.
You don't need anything to come into your brain anymore. You just use your phone and thanks to everyone who is probably listening to this podcast. On their phone. I mean, really, it's remarkable. You've got a $2000 computer in your pocket now that makes phone calls in addition to all the myriad of other things it does.
We just got all the information in forever in the world, just in your pocket, just sitting there. Lazy, lazy.
Yes. Exactly. It's yes, it is. It is, according to us old wowsers, but God dammit. I mean, that's like it's the equivalent of what we used to use a.
Calculator. It's cool. Ohh yeah, you won't have a calculator in real life. Beg to differ.
You're not going to be seen carrying one round everywhere with you. Hello. Anyway, it's a hatch match and dispatch clue. We're going to talk about somebody who was either born. I'd married something to that effect, just like the old hatches, matches and dispatches in the printed out copy of the newspaper. I think they only had that one on Thursdays was when hatches matches and dispatches was. I don't know. I grew up in country towns. Thursday. Feels like they're.
Hmm.
It This day popular edition. I think we had a special bumper hatch match dispatch on the Saturday as well.
Right, right. Well, it's.
The jobs the jobs were in on a Saturday, remember? That, gosh, that was.
Yes.
Then looking for jobs in the paper, wasn't it?
No, it was depressant.
I always look for the jobs with the bigger ads, cause I thought they probably pay more cause the bigger ads are more expensive. They're with the jobs I went for.
I was unemployed, so I was looking for the ones that were higher likelihood of either already hired or not getting so that I could just put them down in my doll form. But anyway, this is a it's not a celebrity, it's somebody who is very well known in Australia. It's a dispatch, somebody who passed away this time 20 years ago.
Not for the big ads.
Oh.
No. They go stranger in the strange land. When I got there, it was so different. The people looked the same. You know, they they had arms and legs, just like we did. These people that I got into in the political arena. They're tools of trade, was an ability to talk.
Hmm. Yes, interesting. Very interesting character. I dare say that only Australian listeners that are really old will probably know who that is, like us, but you can find out who that is at the end of the show.
17th of April 2005 the Bali 9 are arrested. Now the Bali 9 it's a group of nine Australian citizens who were arrested in Bali, Indonesia, for attempting to smuggle 8.3 kilos of heroin from Indonesia to Australia. This became one of the most high profile drug trafficking incidents in Australia and Southeast Asian history.
It was April 2005, when the lives of nine Australians were changed forever.
Right.
They were caught. Trying to smuggle more than 8 kilogrammes of heroin. Out of Indonesia? With $4 million in drugs strapped to their chests.
We didn't even know what it was once we got there, we couldn't turn back.
They were put on trial and their lives were put on the line.
Did you know this carried the death penalty?
Two of the ringleaders, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, were sentenced to death. They begged for mercy.
Or ask him to forgive us. Give us a second chance. You know, we're not asking to leave from prison. We're asking for a life sentence in prison.
And so it begins. So these guys, the Bali 9, Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran, Scott Rush, Michael Sugai, Martin Stevens, Siachen Matthew Norman, Renee Lawrence and Tan Duck Tan Nguyen were arrested in the Balinese.
Hmm.
Authority. Were tipped off by the Australian Federal Police. They gave them the information. Yeah. So that's how they were arrested. They're the Indonesian police, had teamed up with the AFP. The AFP tipped off the Indonesian police and they were captured at Nagura Rai International Airport. 4 Members, the mules, the ones that had the actual heroin strapped to their body.
Yes, yes.
Are strapped to their bodies, yeah.
Were arrested and then the remaining five were arrested at the hotel in Koota, which included the ringleaders Sukumaran and Chan, with evidence the and the heroin, I think that I did. I I'm not sure if they mentioned it in the new scrap because I wasn't paying attention. I was too busy getting a beer, but they they herald, had had an estimated street value of over 4 million.
Hmm.
Australian dollars.
I still really. Clearly remember the news obviously present when when they were arrested and you know the cameras. Are all flashing. And I remember one of them turning around going, you know what they did to Chappelle? They did the same thing to us. They were using the Chappelle Corby defence. Do you remember that? They screamed out. We were set up just like Chappelle.
You had heroin strapped to your body. I mean, they didn't.
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't packed in in. A A suitcase or.
No.
A bag or anything like that. It was on your person.
They were. I think that they were young and impressionable and manipulated, really, and I think Sukumaran and Chan were as the ringleaders, kind of bullied them.
Yes.
To doing it with the promise of. Obviously lots of money. What? What I did find weird and. And that's something that I I didn't really connect the dots on at the time was that the Australian Federal Police knowing full well that they would be sentenced to death if they got caught in Bali, still tipped off the balance. But it didn't try to maybe arrest them somewhere else because then there were the whole media circus around these Australian. Citizens being over there. And being at the mercy of the Balinese courts and everyone came down really heavily on the Indonesians at the time. And I was like, yeah, but our our.
Police tipped them off. Yeah, it was really controversial, because if they'd stopped them in Australia, so let them continue through into Australia because they.
Well, that's where they were. They were.
Could have stopped. Well, they.
Trafficking it through.
Could have stopped them because they knew who they were so they could have stopped them at the Australian airport. They would have faced less severe penalties, like maybe life, life in prison, or probably not even that. I don't know. And and I think it had started with the family members approaching the AFP seeking to help.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Stop the group. Not expecting that they'd end up facing the death penalty.
So the family members.
I think the family members had something to do with it. They approached the AFP seeking to stop them from doing what they were doing.
Wow.
But.
Didn't expect that it would end the way that it.
Did it's extraordinary. I had no idea that that was the case there. I do know that there was a lot of debate. All through for years, up right up until Chan and Sukumaran's eventual execution. That was in 2015, but.
Yeah, long time later.
And then Renee Lawrence, released in 2018, and I think the rest of them.
Have been brought home so I feel like 2 of them recently came home. There was something recently on the news. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they did. They did. They did so. So yeah, just, you know, terrible story. And. And the thing with Chan and Sukumaran was it was a bit of a redemption story as well because they they were like, please don't kill us. We'll take life. Sukumaran became an art teacher in the prison and earned a degree in Fine Arts and then and then Andrew Chan became a a Christian.
Yeah, that's right.
Hmm.
Pasta. Unfortunately, none of that helped their case and and it is one of those ones that and I see I I just still. Think. Like young, impressionable kids overseas, being offered a fortune and cajoled and manipulated into and potentially bullied into smuggling.
He probably told yeah, be right. Don't worry. This happens all the time. No one ever gets caught. I actually thought those two, I thought they would revise the sentences. I was quite shocked that they went through with the death penalty. I thought. I thought they'd change that.
You know.
That was quite shocking.
Well, for two out of nine, I mean, you know it's and and they they really.
Hmm.
Did go for the people that were the the sort of I guess the masterminds behind it, but still just a a really gross story and a story that plays out over many years in the press. So I'm sure it won't be the last time that we speak about it. Now let's move over to something a little bit more lighthearted a crime.
Yes.
Yeah.
Hmm.
But I think it's an endearing crime.
I think it's a crime of passion.
I think it's a lovely crime to be.
Think it's a crime of passion?
Honest, I don't. I endorse this crime. Can I say that? Can I endorse the crime?
It's all about a yes, I do too. It's all about a 14 year old Melbourne schoolboy and his love of trams.
It's a beautiful story. He makes headlines on the 18th of April after stealing a tram, driving it along an actual passenger route like he was an official operator. He wasn't. He wasn't specifically, as some reports said, he was wearing a Yarra trams uniform. But at last he came out. He was wearing very similar clothing, so, you know he.
Hmm.
Went and bought a knock off.
Cosplay cosplay.
From Kmart, maybe bought some hivis from Kmart, hopped into an unattended tram at a depot in South Melba.
This.
Drove it and I must say safely and competently along Route 86.
To teenage tramp, fanatic has made a mockery of security. He crisscrossed the city, picking up passengers from South Bank to Saint Kilda police, eventually stopping the stolen tram in Hawthorne.
Two passengers. It seemed like any other ride.
He's a good driver. Drive just like any other normal tram driver.
But allegedly at the controls of this tram was a 15 year old with A1 track mind.
The young lad certainly indicated that he does want to be a tram driver and look he has a a. An obsession with trams.
Lots of opportunities for puns. A1 track miles had to bring that in, didn't they? No, no.
Ohh very good. Very good. Yeah.
That was in. The news report it was like, yes.
All right.
That's great. Great. Reporting he was a true pro, he made announcements over the PA. Yes, he followed traffic signals. He drove around the network for 40 minutes. He manually changed the tracks. Where you kind of get out and move the tracks around.
Do the switch.
Crossed busy intersections stopped pick up passengers and even overshot one of the stops and stopped in reverse and I think regular tram drivers probably just keep going. I think he actually had really good.
And.
Customer service.
It was all going so well. It was all going so well until an inspector noticed that he was alone in the cabin.
It. Until it wasn't.
And he thought. Gee, that guy seems a little bit young. 314 years old, 1414. So he was arrested, he now he got to Q 15 kilometres from where he stole the tram and police. The police had to actually shut the electricity off to stop the tram and then the. Looking driver.
Right.
Then she went around the glute.
The the There was a motorist there that said there was actually a pretty brutal arrest because. All the cops. Descended upon the tram and drew their guns and then stormed, stormed the tram. Yeah, at the intersection of Glenferrie Road and Wellington St in Q, yeah.
Oh. Poor guy. Ohh no well. Apparently the the passengers protested when he was being handcuffed and pushed against a seat they. Were cheering for.
It is very efficient.
Transport. They got to all their.
Like, yeah, we might, but great customer service. He was really good at changing the tracks. He was on time more on time than the ones we usually catch. So leave him alone. Let him back in the in the front. Let's keep going. We're on time. Gotta.
Not.
Great announcements. Absolutely you wish you could.
Get some work.
Drive a tram like that kid.
Sparked a national press conference, the Deputy chief executive of Yarra Trams at the time, Dennis Cliche.
Sounds fortunate, isn't it? I don't know.
He he spoke. Boldly of of the efforts, he said that the boy must have studied tram drivers to be able to operate the vehicle, which usually takes around 5 weeks of training.
Yeah, that's about 50 tonnes of steel powered by electricity and stuff.
That's fine. You're on a. Track what what could possibly go wrong?
Yeah. Well, Marvin, have you driven around Melbourne and if you're not used to trams and you go and then you get into Melbourne and you're and you're like, oh. Ohh, I'm driving in the middle of a. Tram track, yeah.
They're all rules.
Rule. Yeah, that's terrifying. Hmm. It's very scary and intimidating. First time around. Yeah. Yeah. But the boy was a big tram enthusiast. He actually was a high functioning autistic kid. And.
They're weird rules, too. They're not. They're not logical rules.
Yes.
Yes, that was. Confirmed a bit later on, wasn't it?
Yeah. And he that was his special interest. And you know when when you've got ASD and you've got a special interest, you are following that interest with the laser focus. You are zeroed in. So he knew that tram inside.
M.
Yes.
And out and I know I think I would trust him over a lot of other tram drivers that have probably been driving for many years just because of his.
Yes, and probably had a had enough of the the general public or his tram boy. He'd studied the operations, he'd visited depots. He knew the schedules and procedures, the control panels, just from observing them and and memorising how it all. Worked.
While he'll front the children's court, he could still become a real tram driver as long as he stays on the straight and narrow and off this straight and narrow.
Do you do work? Experience could have opted for that.
That's another alternative form, yes.
He's a Norse lead, he's a good lad. I think his obsession just got the better of him.
I think the cops kind of took a bit of a shine to him, actually. Yeah. Yeah. And of course.
Yeah, I like this kid's Got Talent. And when doesn't an obsession get the better of you? It happens. To all of us.
Well, he just. He just made things better for for the Melbourne tram system anyway, because there were security upgrades after that, including locking cabins and tracking vehicles more closely and supervising stuff, supervising staff, ladies and gentlemen. So they called him tram boy. That was his nickname. He became a bit of a folk hero.
Yep.
Yes.
And they were really amazed.
He still is a hero. There's there's still discussion of him on Reddit. I jumped onto Reddit and someone who was actually on the tram on that day had commented on this post on Reddit, had come back and said that that was the best trip that ever had because it was on time for once.
They.
This.
Frost.
Yeah. Standing.
Man boy knew the schedule and kept to the schedule.
I actually wanted to do a bit of research and see if I could figure out where he is now, but they never named him, so he's just kind of, yeah. So he's just this urban legend that's forever known as tramp.
No, because he was underage, so they couldn't. I wonder if. He's a tram driver now imagine that and you get on tram, boys, tram.
I don't know. The thing is, is he had prize. He'd actually stolen a train as well at one stage.
Yes, yes, significant. Well, I think he drove that really well too.
It's. Over to sports.
One of your fave sports actually, isn't it?
I'm I'm a.
Big fan of the NFL. It's just a it's just at the wrong time of day at the right end of the year because there's no other football to be watching. And I just enjoy the the whole spectacle and the the the.
Hmm.
The science behind NFL I know it's like it's a game where big men crash into each other. There's a lot of collisions and it's a bit of a coaches game.
Hmm, take some time and serve. Boy, the draught is that fun for you? Is that exciting? When they pick all the players at the? Start.
No, because I think I think if I.
Ohk. OK, great. Well, let's.
Watched.
Just skip this segment then.
If I if I watched college football as well, it probably would be more exciting. But I'm just like.
Ohh cause you could see them come up. Through the ranks.
That's. Chase.
I do love my fantasy football draught. That's always a lot of fun to figure and very frustrating. At the same time because everybody's trying to buy the same player that you want and if you wrong order and stuff and you know they sort out draught orders based on what kind of year you had the year before. So if you had an absolute.
You take that very seriously, don't you? Yes. You get very annoyed when someone. Picks your plane, don't you?
Very.
Stinker. You get the first draught pick and.
You get very cranky, don't you?
Yes. So on the on the 23rd of April, the NFL draught happened and University of Utah quarterback Alex Smith was selected as the first pick by the San Francisco 49ers in the NFL draught.
With the first selection in the 2005 NFL draught, the San Francisco 49ers select Alex Smith. Quarterback Utah.
Now he was a very popular choice, so there was 2 quarterbacks that were in the running and Alex Smith was was definitely one of them. And he was the. 1st overall picks.
Do you pick your quarterbacks first? Is that how it works? Because they're kind of like your star player.
It generally generally, if you're a team that hasn't been performing well and you're kind of down in the doldrums, you could have a a big hole in your offence or your defence. It depends usually your offence and and you need to have a star quarterback to kind of galvanise the team and bring everyone together. You also need people who can catch the football so if the quarterbacks throwing them so it's.
Hmm.
I mean. There, there's a a myriad of different positions that you could fill, but if you like at the time, 49ers, desperate for a quarterback and he was the hottest property out of.
Do they? The draught. Did they get to pick? First, because they were team had OK.
Yes, they'd had a short season before, so that's yes. But but you can also trade draught picks for players as well. So if you're going, you can trade at a draught pick and take a player before a draught as well, like or a player that's already existing in the league or whatever. But Alex Smith was praised for his intelligence, and he's fit with the 49ers.
So that's how it works. So if you're, you go. 1st that's nice.
Census system and. He was there for a while thereafter, but he. Had a pretty rocky start to. His career, and he eventually found a bit of success with the Kansas City Chiefs, so he spent some time with San Francisco, wasn't really going well, went over to the Chiefs. But the biggest controversy and this guy's been controversial in this day and age as well, because he signed with the New York Jets and last season he had one.
Chrome.
Tito's team.
I think he was on the field for less than. Couple of minutes and then he tore his Achilles. And that was a season ending for him and he was and he's a bit old. He's bit long in the tooth now. But Aaron Rodgers, I'm talking about the quarterback. He was widely projected as a possible number one overall pick as well with Alex Smith, but he fell away to the 24th round draught pick where he was eventually picked by the Green Bay Packers. And he wasn't very. Happy about it at the time.
On the inside there was a lot of disappointment.
Like.
Just thinking about, you know, the hard work I put in and the disappointment of it not paying off in my mind at the time as I saw you know, teams passing on me that I know I've talked to and thought were interested and and players drafted who I felt like I was better than.
Once San Francisco pat. Last on Aaron Rodgers, there really isn't another team in that top 15 that is enamoured with Aaron and that's why he's still sitting and a lot of people did not have Aaron Rodgers as a top ten quarterback. He has flaws, he has blemishes, the sampling of his throws deep down the field just were not there. That doesn't project well to the National Football League.
Now, no, it didn't and but. But I mean, it was the draughts, a bit different these days. But he he still after he got signed by Green Bay Rogers, he had to sit and wait for Brett Farve to leave the Green Bay Packers. So he was #2. Yeah, QB 2, he's a reserved.
Hmm.
So they signed him up, but he wasn't actually playing. I know how he feels. I used to get picked last for tunnel ball in year 3.
Yeah, but at the same time, you like. Well, you know, Brett Farve great quarterback doing well for the Packers on the way out.
I still got to play tunnel ball, though I didn't have to wait for anyone to get out. Yeah, OK, so.
Exactly. Exactly. I had it better than him. Well, as a career path, I think he. He's. You wanna come out of it? OK, I think if you were comparing your tunnel ball career side by side with Aaron Rodgers NFL career.
My title ball. Career I didn't make as much money, did I? No. OK. Yeah, yeah. What about? Over under.
I think it was pale in comparison. You didn't date them. No, you didn't get to date Olivia Munn or, you know, I don't know, but mate. Yes.
Oh, did he? Oh, he.
For a while.
Was the one that dated. Her. Yeah, we go.
There you go. Now you. Now you're interested now you're interested.
Now I'm. Cause I like her.
Yes, so but.
I like it when it's. I like the girlfriends.
Well, I mean Rogers nowadays he's was he was an elite quarterback. He did, he did take them to a Super Bowl and he's been an MVP for. The league, a significant number of times so you know the NFL draught is a very unpredictable thing and his draught class, Rogers and Alex Smith's draught class went to produce multiple pro bowlers. Several franchise defining players. The Roger Smith storyline was one of the most talked about in the whole what ifs.
Hmm.
In NFL history, like what if 49ers had have drafted Rogers instead of Smith? Exactly.
That's.
Shows and sliding those moments. I think it was also a bit of a turning point though, in how the draught was covered as well. It's gone from being this ESPN.
Yes.
And kind of only events for the hard cause, and it's become a bit more of a prime time entertainment piece now these days, isn't it? It's like spread across three days, prime time slots ABC, ESPN NFL Network streamed globally outdoor arenas.
Hmm.
Yep.
I don't know.
I think they did it. They've done it in Vegas and Detroit and Green Bay.
You know what? I can't stand it. I can't stand watching. You know what it's like. It's.
Red carpet live music celebrity guests. This actually sounds more interesting now.
It is like sitting around and watching a bunch of other people win the lottery. That's what it's like. It's like, you know, these people are getting pulled by these teams, you know, they they're gonna be paid in excess of hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of their career. Like they're set for life. And you see the parents and all that there. And then they get drafted by a team and.
They're like, yeah, we win the lottery, fans go. There's celebrities that announce and military heroes. Mascots drone shots. I think it sounds pretty good, actually.
Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, it in the same way that watching like poker or darts is, do you know what I mean? Coming up next on ESPN, it's the world paint drying championships. Like it. That's what the draught is. Now get off the phone on AT the Internet.
Now I'm ringing my friend. Sorry. Too bad on the on the House phone talking to her mum at the.
Oh God.
Moment that stuff.
Oh, really? You take bridges?
Tech news, April 23, 2005 we have the. Big milestone for YouTube. We spoke about YouTube back in Feb. I think when it was kind of officially launched, but Fast forward to April and we've got the very first video uploaded to YouTube me at the zoo.
Alright, so here we are. One of the elephants.
Get the break.
Cool thing what these guys suspect is that they. Have really really, really. Hey. Long guns and that's that's cool. And that's pretty much all it. Has to say.
That's pretty much all there is to say. Well, apparently not, because my goodness hasn't YouTube grown since.
All there is to say.
Then.
Yes, that was the founder, Jawed Karim.
Yeah, one of the liars that founded YouTube Go back to the previous episode. If you wanna hear the story behind that. But basically, the whole the whole foundation that YouTube was built on was a lie. Yes.
We have stuff.
Built on a lie built on lies because they said it was a dinner party and they wanted to upload photos from the dinner party and then they talked about Janet's **** and all that. No, it wasn't. It was an online dating service based on model, not they asked people. They asked chicks to upload their pics.
Was not. Yeah, but they they they pivoted because it wasn't successful. Yeah, it's surprisingly none of them did.
And the chicks didn't want to upload the pics, and so then they just pivoted and said, Oh well. Anyone can upload anything they like.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's kind of like if they had have applied that same. Methodology and said, but people will pay you. They would have had only fans.
Well, they were gonna pay them. They'd put ads on Craigslist. 100 bucks.
Umm.
Yeah. So he models wanted on Craigslist at 100 bucks in the early 2000s. Only an idiot wouldn't. Ohh, that sounds perfectly fine. I'll absolutely do that.
Sounds legit. Sounds legit. If it was in the Canberra Times with a really big ad, I would have. Been. In yeah, would have been like that, yeah.
Models wanted.
Yeah, big if it's.
A big ad in the Canberra Times, you know that it's a good job, the big ads.
The. The the newspaper that services the *********** and fireworks capital of Australia.
I never thought of it like that, actually. You know what? Can I just tell a story for a moment and?
Yeah, that's because you were born here, yeah. Go for it. More interesting than me at the zoo anyway.
I think that explains a lot of things. So my friend, she went for a job in the camera times and it was a big ad. Yeah. She's like, OK, great. And it was for a masseuse, and it was like all training provided.
Yes.
I'm sure.
And she she she's like. I don't even know what I wanna do with. My life, you know, she's like, ohh well if. They're gonna train. Me. That sounds pretty cool. I wouldn't mind trying that. So she rang up and they did like a phone interview and they and she went through the whole interview. And she's like, answering all the questions, feeling really confident. They're being really. Yeah. They sounded really encouraging at the other end, just like man. In the bag got this.
This is an added in the.
Job.
Canberra times, yeah.
Yeah. And so they get to the end and then they're like, 01 thing, we forgot to mention.
Hmm.
You have to do it. In the nude, right?
Why?
The masseuse job there was like a nude masseuse. You have to be in the mood. Are you cool with that?
Yeah.
She's like, yeah, no. Bye and hung up.
I'd be I'd be very cool, in fact.
So you just reminded me of that. So that, yeah. That did happen.
Like how many, how many other jobs would that imagine getting to the end of a job interview where you're like, going OK, like, you know, Lollipop person? Ohh. There's only one other thing. Yeah, that that we failed to mention in all the other job ads that you're gonna have to direct that traffic in the. Yeah, this wouldn't work.
Yes. Nudes. You'd pay attention to a naked lollipop person, though. You'd you'd stop. You would anyway.
Hmm.
You would stop absolutely.
Back to me at the zoo. Yes. OK. It's just interesting. It's just interesting because you said you gotta be careful what had to apply for. And I was like, that actually happened to my friend. Yeah. OK. So yes, first video that was uploaded and as of today, that video has over 300 million views.
I do think it's. Yeah.
Uh-huh.
And millions of comments and a lot of people, you know how I say we watch videos of, you know, $0.50. And I was like, who's still here in 2025? It's kind of like that. There's a lot of nostalgic tributes in the comments for that video, and his account remains, obviously the oldest active channel because it was the first account that was developed. And and uploading things. And I think he's occasionally edited the video description over the years.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
New features have come in so that he can kind of showcase the new features.
Really. Of YouTube with still with me at the zoo.
Yeah, it's still there.
Wow.
That is extraordinary, and yet so but. They've got long trunks and that's all I have to say about that. Well, you should have been in the massage parlour the other day. I think it's going to be a pretty quick music segment this week.
whoa
It is, yes, we have pretty much the same charts. We've got beautiful soul #1 here in Australia.
I don't want another.
I don't want just any.
You're beautiful.
I wanna chase you.
I controversial opinion here I think. That's. Teemu Ryan Cabrera.
Ohh wow.
I mean, Jesse McCartney was just strapping off Ryan, our mate Ryan.
Well, absolutely. Our mate Ryan, we're team Cabrera all the way and yes.
Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think? It does sound it does sound. Try hard, Ryan.
Yeah, I think he saw Ryan Cabrera and said. I wanna do.
I want that I want that I want. That big hair I'm gonna wear.
And you do.
The neck tie. It's not the same.
It. And they said, well, listen, you can do that. But you're gonna have to do. It in the nude.
Number one in. The UK it's still the lip syncing, was it Peter Kay lip syncing to Tony Christie?
Thanks.
Every night I've been dreaming dreams for me. Show me the way.
That song's been dancing around in my brain ever since we introduced it. Yeah, it's a bit of a banger.
I'm about to say, have you been getting that stuck? In your head. Me too in. Traffic. I get it stuck in my head in traffic and in meetings.
Yeah, this is the way to my terrible job. I think it is. The traffic sucks. Yeah, it it. It brings me joy. It just brings me joy.
Does it feels? Fun doesn't it?
Yeah, I mean it's belted out at at it's it's it, it's an optimum performance from Tony. What's he named, Christy? Yeah, it's and it's just it's just a very joyful song and they don't make them like that. It's got a horn section, it's got him belts.
Yes, Ben, Peter Kay.
It is.
No.
It out in true Tony Christie style and it just brings me joy.
Yeah, it's good. It's good.
Yes, I'd like to find something to get it out of my head soon, because it's also sort of sending me to the brink of madness. Like, as I'm about to go to sleep. At about 10:00 and God.
Make it go away. Let's go to the US charts top. Five sounded like this.
Hi. Mr I have nobody.
The love of the underdogs on top, and I'm gonna shine on me until.
My heart. Stop me.
Don't you stop?
There, there's not a lot of new stuff in there, no new stuff at all, just a bit of churn. Yes, but I will say #2 hate it or love it $0.50 in the game. Yes, that's starting to grow on me.
He. Moved around.
As well now.
Yes.
That I don't remember that being big in Australia, but very big.
It wasn't definitely wasn't, cause I'd remember it. Yeah, I've added it to my workout playlist, makes me happy. I was doing leg press to it.
On the Billboard charts. Yes, I mean this. Just.
Today actually it was good.
This was just R&B, like early 2000s. I mean even 2005 R&B and HIP. Not just hammering big nails into the coffin of rock'n'roll and grunge, really.
There were so many. Army was so big. Early 2000. There were so many nightclubs that were specifically R&B as well. Even like here in Canberra there was probably about four.
Yes, yes. I know. Yeah, it was it.
That's a lot for Canberra. 4 are big clubs.
Was pretty hard to get on as a. Metal. Head, did you get let it couldn't get into anywhere. And and if you did get let in, you'd hate every second of it. So what was the point? Ohh, going out. Why? Why you should stay in you really should.
Yes.
Not many venues.
And maybe do it in. The nude.
Number one, get 50 Cent. Number two. Hey, you'll love it. The game feat, 50 Cent. Number three is you been going? Kelly Clarkson #4 lonely. I stumbled across. There's this great acon slash Pitbull meme. It's been going around for years, but it pops up every now and then in my feet. And I just love it. It was.
Right.
You know the song sexy *****, you.
Ohh, you're a sexy match, yes.
Know damn. *****.
And and it says something along the lines of. Akon had to find a way to describe a girl without being disrespectful because without being disrespectful and and what he landed on was.
Ohh yeah. Yes. Trying to find a way to describe this girl without being disrespectful.
Without being disrespectful and he landed on sexy *****. It's very funny. It's very funny, meme. Good point. It's a good point. And I'm sitting on in at #5. I like that too. I think I'm gonna add to that.
Damn, you're a sexy *****. To be disrespectful, HM.
I think I'm gonna add it to my gym playlist, but I'm going to add it to the songs that we were mildly indifferent to back in two in the early 2000s, but have grown since grown on us. That's a good playlist.
Yeah.
I don't know. Not for me that one.
It's on the T -, 20.
I just. I just. I'm I'm. I'm kind of stuck on.
Playlist on Spotify for those that are interested.
What Akon would do if he was gonna be disrespectful? Yes.
Actually.
And and I think.
Probably what happened on stage that time.
Ohh yes ohh. When he when he threw the person off? See once again I listen to like metal and rock'n'roll and punk rock and there's been far worse things that have happened on stage.
Yes, yes. That person probably deserved it, yes.
Far worse. Yeah, just just go and Google GG Allen and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Yes.
We're gonna do.
This even though we're. Still in the music segment, this has been. But that's a. Bit of fashion in the music segment right now over to Mel with some the latest in fashion from the music business in 2000 and.
Ashan. Five. Well, this time in 2005. AZ wasn't just clocking hits, he was literally putting his name on time itself.
Oh.
Clocking hit. So I love what you're putting his name on time itself. What?
Yes, he unveiled a line of limited edition watches. With the watchmaker.
Ohh OK, so you know how you know how a couple of weeks ago I said to you know, you're I always struggle with pronunciations. I said the secret is just to.
OK.
Yes.
Commit.
Yes.
I've heard this pronounced correctly several times and I still can't say it. No order must be where see. What am I doing?
You know it? Yes. Ohh you can't commit.
Even know what I'm saying? All of us pig way. It goes pee pee, pee, pee pee. Yeah, I mean, it's a very high fashion watch, watch label. Very expensive, very classy. And. And so to to celebrate 10 years in the rap game. Jay-Z Tees up with Automark. Yeah.
Yes, they're very fashion.
This used luxury watchmaker to drop the Sean Carter Royal Oak Offshore. That sounds like somebody taking a hit off.
Say luxury.
The side of a boat.
It really does. Yeah. It really doesn't. And it. Floats out to sea, yeah.
Yeah. Ohh, just gotta just gotta drop the Sean Carter Royal Oak offshore. I mean, you mean drop like release, you know? But again, once again, wasn't your average watch though, and they did a bit of a press, I think this was one of the owners or the representatives, the marketing people from. All the most people, yeah.
So I made Jay for the first time in 2001, right? And he had already 14 of them appear, watching. So on the first time we met, he said one day we'll make a watch together and I say good luck.
With that, so I I think in the year 2023-2024 like that, that will make no sense because Jay-Z is as famous as it gets and one of the most powerful people in the world and I. On and AP is is obviously a partner to to many athletes ET. Cetera, but why? Why?
Was it so challenging to launch the watch? Yeah, because if you go back there, you will never see at that time a luxury brand actually partner with culture. And I convinced the management band. Say, listen guys, hip hop is now going to work with the guys in the 20s. We have to go on that one. I feel it's the right move to make and Jay is the absolute perfect person to. Do it with.
Hip hop be the hip hop.
Yeah.
It's. Did you hear that? Even the the guy that was interviewing the guy from? Yeah. Yeah. He heard him pronounce it, and he was smart because he just called him AP. He just went straight for the acronym. And that's what I should have done. That's what I should have done. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
They pay for the acronym. That's very smart, isn't it? But you could confuse that with Associated Press. Don't be careful. The watch was known for its chunky design, octagonal bezel and luxury sports style. I think you call that.
Yes, yes indeed.
Hmm.
Lux sport pair.
Yeah.
It had his signature SC logo for Sean Carter. Laser etched on the die. And engraved on the back was the 10th anniversary and Jay-Z signature. That's like when I got into when I got into uni, I got a watch and got engraved on the.
Ohh yeah.
Back.
The.
Casio I don't even know what it was like time force or something time force.
Seiko. Time X time force.
Bentley or something like that on, of course.
That sounds like a B grade, so it's it sounds, it sounds like, you know, Donald Trump's doing like space force to defend.
It had a wooden. Had a wooden face. Yes.
Space. Once he works out about time travel, he's gonna launch time force to defend time. Yeah.
Time force was ahead of the time, then. Yeah. And it had, like, I know it had something etched in the back, like maybe my name or something. Not Jay-Z name umm. Anyway, they only made 100.
No. Yeah, that's called a limited edition.
There were 50. 50 in stainless steel, 30IN rose gold and 20 in.
Mm-hmm.
Platinum and at the time retailed between $20,000 and 100,000, depending on which one you got. I think Platinum was the most expensive $100,000 for a watch with someone else's bloody signature.
Yeah, it's a lot of money for a watch to be able to tell the time. Yeah. And I mean, that's all they do is tell the time.
On why would you do that? And the signature. Why would you want that? Cause then people are like, why are you wearing Jay-Z watch? That's clearly his watch.
You know. Hmm. Yeah. It's got his name on it. So it's like, yeah, like, you know, did it have a calculator on it? Cause Cassio has a calculator. Exactly.
He's engraved his name. Did you steal that?
Often.
No, did not have a calculator, didn't have anything.
Exactly. It's really enough to make you wanna drop the Sean Carter royal. Oak offshore.
But I think. They said it was one of the high, one of the earliest high fashion luxury #collabs between a hip hop artist and a watchmaker hip hop artists and a Swiss Swiss watch maker. No, I think I glitched, but it was it was. This is when we started to see artists.
Yes. Yeah. Now, hip hop artist. Yeah, I know what happened then? Yeah, I think you really did.
Not just buying the luxury stuff, but actually influencing it.
Wearing. And endorsing.
Because they'd rap. About it a lot.
Hmm.
But they wouldn't. They wouldn't back it up, but but Jay?
Z backed it up. It is classy.
It's classy, you know. It's like it's like the guy was saying. It's like, this is what jazz was in the 20s. Yeah. And he's kind of right to a point. I mean, and this is a bit more than just. Wearing track suits and sand shoes.
It's been more than your Air Force ones, yes.
It's a lot more than forced ones, but it's also it's it's taking something that was like like his culture, like hip hop and all of that. That was born on the streets under very low socioeconomic circumstances and putting it into a realm where it's a bit untouchable. And I don't know.
Sentence.
Hmm.
Hmm into the blinger sphere.
But that's it's no longer for the people. That's true. It's for the the, the, the, the, the boogies.
Yeah.
Yes. Well, today they're collectors items and occasionally they come up for auction at Christies, so jumped on to Christies. There was one for auction. I think it was last year.
Hmm.
And I didn't realise because I didn't say this into the the description, but I only figured it out when I went on to Christies. It came in a box and you had the watch and you had, like, a book with the story. It's always nice. Like when you get a story with the product or like, reading the history, don't like reading the history. When I'm making a recipe, I don't care about your your great, great grandmother and where they lived. I just want the recipe.
Yes.
MHM.
Yeah, a little bit of background.
Yes.
And the ingredients.
Yeah.
What I buy a high end watch I want. The story. So there's a story. There's. A watch it also. Came with an iPod.
Really.
Had an iPod with all of Jay-Z songs on it. Isn't that nice? It's a fancy iPod and it was in a wooden box, so you had the wooden box with the story and the watch and the.
That's cool. That's very cool.
A pot and I think I don't know, it auctioned at Christies. And I think it was close to $100,000.
A.
Couple of years.
Ago.
That's crazy. Yeah, that could. That could end up being in a bargain basement bin if if lots of things come to light over the.
6 begins.
Next few years.
This is true. So if we're, if we're in the market for a, what's it called? An API. I'm just going to go with AP. Just give it a.
Name P as Sean Carter. Royal Oak Offshore, actually.
Give it a give. It a couple of years and the price price might drop. Might find them on eBay.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe. I do like the idea of unboxing stuff and then getting a book to go with. A little story.
A.
Background information or in in the case of IKEA or interactive story. Oh yeah, yes, yes. And depending on if you get the pages mixed up it could become. A. Choose your own adventure.
Box.
Jesus Christ wasn't awake before. I am now, you know, open up the. Boom box, yes. Now if you've not.
Yes.
Heard the boom box being opened before like, where have you been?
Hmm.
But the boom box is basically out. It's, you know, how most people have a suggestions box or anything like that. Like this is more of a complaints box. The boom box. It's your boomer style complaints, something that you could probably find yourself in the middle of complaining about that we all identify and relate to. But you could also probably wrap up that complaint with a very quick OK boomer.
Yeah. Yes, yes it is.
This is a safe space where you're free from the OK Boomer comments. Yes, you could be a millennial, you could be genex doesn't matter. We don't discriminate, but we we call it the boom box and it is open as of right now. And if you do want to.
Hmm.
Participate if you do want to boom at us with your complaint, all you've gotta do is just slide into our DM's, preferably on on Facebook or Instagram.
Yes. Yeah, and.
Yes. Well, usually I open it up on Instagram on a Saturday because I think everyone's had. A big week.
Hmm.
Lots of things have happened. You've been. At work all week? Yep.
Yeah.
And you're using your tech and things go wrong in life. Stressful. So you get Saturday and you stop and reflect. And I think that's a perfect time to boom.
Is. Good.
Yes, because you've moved through it and you're comfortable booming now, so I usually put something up on the socials and you know, it's a bit hit and miss. We've had a few come through that have been great, but this this week we haven't really had anything specifically come through. And we also say that you can do an audio note.
Yes. Well, that's the thing. If you're feeling really courageous and you do audio message, yeah.
So if you press. The little microphone. And you do an audio message and we'll play the audio in the show. So you wanna be on the show? You can actually be on the show complaining.
Yeah.
We sure will. Yep. Yes, and and and the more we solicit for that over the coming weeks, yes. And the less that that seems to come to fruition or not happen, it gives you a really good gauge as to how successful our podcast actually.
Perfect. It shows you how. Many followers, how engaged our audience is. Yes. So this week 1 comes from the Internet. Nobody's boomed in audio or in.
That's fine.
Text this week.
Yeah.
But this one, this is worth it.
OK, hit me. Yes.
Alright. Are we ready? This makes me laugh, and I've been thinking like I keep thinking about. I keep laughing. It's really good. OK, you ready? Yes. Technology has gone too far. Man. My roommate is logged out of his light bulbs. Because he forgot his password.
Ohh my God. Ohh.
We give.
Yeah.
I can tell my God.
Out of his light bulbs because he forgot.
I can relate to that. I could relate to that. Remember cause of our house, our house.
Is that I can't turn the light on in our house because they're programmed to your good boy.
They're all connected to the Wi-Fi, too, so you gotta ask Siri to turn them on or off. And don't do that now, because I don't want to sit here in the dark, but sometimes they don't listen.
Imagine telling that.
To someone in the 1970s, I can't turn a light. I've been locked out of my light bulbs trying to explain that to someone in the.
Yeah.
Exactly how well there's this other little box that I put a password into that the light bulbs are also connected to. And then there's my phone, which is connected to this device as well, and it's it responds to my voice. And I can tell. But what's this?
Past.
I'm sorry I didn't quite get. That. You know, it's like trying to explain it to someone in. The 70s like. That that was 20 years ago, 20 years ago. Ridiculous. Yes. What do you mean? Your lights are logged into the Wi-Fi?
You've been explaining it 10 years ago, 10-10 years ago. Looked at it, looked at him a lot.
Ridiculous. Let's go over to the entertainment portion and this is this is a great number one at the US box office. Hmm. I love this movie. I love the remake of this movie, and I think that this person might have lost the Wi-Fi password to their lights as well, because it's about a house that was possessed. The Amityville Horror, the remake. Tops the US box office.
There was a family lived here some time ago. They had a similar problem.
In their house need to get out of here.
Everything they have is. In this house. Sure.
OK.
Yeah.
Almighty God bless and sanctifying the source.
Open the door. He's not opening, I.
Can't open George.
Evil in my house.
Ohh so good.
I was gonna say is that is the OG I mean to build the. Get out and.
Yeah, and yeah. So they did that.
It. Is yes. Yeah, I heard that. Yes.
As well said. Get out. Yeah. So the house tells you to shed out, but this had Ryan Reynolds played the dad, George Lutz and Melissa George, Australia's own Melissa George played Kathy Lutz, and she's pretty good. And Chloe?
It sure I will. Angel. Angel.
Grace Moretz was in her film debut. Yes, yes, she played Chelsea lots. The daughter and the best thing about this movie, especially now that I'm sort of after and after we've opened the.
Ah.
She's like.
The box is that it only goes for 90 minutes. Ohh it's really good. It's a nice short film, goes for 90 minutes. Wonderful. I I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. I did enjoy it and and I was a bit. I was a bit annoyed that they kind of remade The Amityville Horror but I didn't think it was too bad and it would. The the you've gotta remember the Amityville.
Not a fan. All you are all you're a fan. Because. Was so Sharon.
Horror is based on a true story.
I didn't know that, and that was one of the videos, you know, like when you're, oh, well, you're not a girl, but when you're a girl, when you were a girl, we didn't read the book. But when you're like a girl in year 8 or year 9, you have sleepovers with your other girlfriends. And that was what you did. You'd watch, you'd watch horror movies on on VHS.
Yes. I read the. Book and it was very scary. Hmm.
Hmm.
Scary.
Yes, and that was one that we watched many times, at many sleepovers, and none of us GOOG and none.
Yes. The original the IJ, yeah.
Of us slept after that.
Of course. Yes, it's very scary. It's great. Poor old George just copped the brunt of it. He got all maddened by the ghosts in the house and possessed and then tried to.
Yeah, horrible. Horrible.
Kill him. Felt terrible, but.
And so we like the remake. I haven't seen.
I didn't mind it, but it was based on that true story of the lights family, and it follows that couple and their three kids who move into this beautiful house in Long Island. In New York, only to discover that it has this supernatural presence in there and George, the dad played by Ryan Reynolds, begins this whole psychological unravelling. It's bit like the shining, really, and the sinister forces in there take over the house and his mind, which leads to terrible visions, and he becomes very aggressive and starts terrorising the family.
Hmm.
Ohh yes.
I think it was a bit faster and I think other people would agree the pacing was a bit more. You know contemporary compared to the original of 1979 and like there you go 90 minutes. Great. Perfect for old people who can't be bothered sitting in movies for that long. Lots of more creepy jump scares in there than the original as well. And Ryan Reynolds not being funny for a change which was actually very refreshing to see him in a role like that.
Yeah. Was he good?
Yeah.
Well, he just wasn't this wise cracking pain in the ****, you know, which he kind of well, it's he's just he's annoying because he's oversaturated. The market. He became everybody's, you know, favourite.
She's a bit annoying, isn't it? She's. Yes.
And you know, you know what happens like you.
In favour? Yeah. And then you go to. Tear him, obviously, yeah.
Down. Yeah, exactly. You. Then you get sick of him. So overexposed we put him there. Yes. You know, we were the ones are all like we like him. And they're like, oh, you like this guy? I'll do more with him. And so we don't like him anymore.
That's true. Let's make him annoying. So it was the real. House people were murdered in the was.
A murder house? Yes. They were murdered in the house. And then so. So that's what happened. Yes. So the the the.
The house. Is home please.
Fayo family Ronald Defeo killed six members of his family in that house and then thirteen months later.
Oh.
Are the Lutz family move in and they they experience all these hauntings and they they've debated it saying that the actual real life family Bill was a hoax. Others believe that just the trauma left a lingering spiritual footprint and the remake leans really heavily into that based on a true story because there's lots of legal disputes and all of that sort of stuff. But it did really helped launch the interest in those those real life horror movies in the early 2000s, which was great. And of course.
Oh.
You've got spin offs and sequels and documentaries, and also there's so much stuff that is tied to Amityville and then I mean for Chloë Grace Moretz that that was her breakthrough role that led to her being in ********. And then the the remake of the vampire film let the right one in called let me in. She's a great actor, she's really good. And I just think that.
Ohh that's right yes. She's good. I like him.
I mean The thing is with home ownership is the real horror is interest rates like honestly it's interest rates and wondering what they're gonna do, who gives it. If my house was demonically possessed, that would not scare me nearly as much as the cost of living and interest rates. Think about it like and and the other thing is, is would you buy a house if you knew someone was murdered in that?
Is there is there a rule now that? You that they.
Have to tell playful.
Have to disclose that it's a murder house. I feel like there's a rule now. And that's recent. That's a recent thing that you have to be like. Yeah. You know, beautiful house, north facing on sweet, you know, butlers pantry and a murder. Yeah, I think you have to say a murder.
There might be.
I don't think I could live in a. Murder house.
Could live in a murder house even if it was.
I don't think.
I could live in a.
Murder House sometimes, like weird things happen in this House, and I go, oh, I wonder if this is a murder house. I've seen the dog looking off into the distance oddly, sometimes. Like it's. Yeah. Well, it's no was our previous dog, not the current dog. Previous dog used to sit in a certain spot.
I don't think so.
Really.
Out in the lounge room and used to just look in, look in a direction and looked like it was being.
Hmm.
Mattered, so I don't think. I don't think it's a murder house. Maybe just like a ghost that likes dogs, but he's just look and looks like he was being patted. Sure. Yeah. So sometimes I think there might be something a bit supernatural going on. But anyway, what's the other dog? It's not this dog.
Are you? That's that's a little bit odd. Well, you know, I mean, it's not a cat containment suburb, so maybe it was just tripping out at the cats being around us, you know. Oh, no, I can't. Dog hates the cats.
Maybe I don't know. Possibly, possibly. But look, I wouldn't. I wouldn't knowingly buy if, say, if someone said this is a murder house. But you know it's only $100,000. I mean, no, no, thanks. No.
Yeah. Really. Say what?
No, no.
If it was like a really beautiful house that was going for a song like somewhere, I don't know.
No, no, not if it's a murder house. No, no.
Right. Still wouldn't do it. What about if you were like, what if you could turn it into a business venture? Come and see the murder house. You could, sort of, you know.
Like come and see the murder. If I didn't have to live in it, sure I'm not sleeping in a murder house. Sorry. Really, no.
Yeah. OK.
What about just like a a petty crime? Like like like, yeah.
Not crime, not murder like tram boy, it was tram boys house. No problem. Yeah, that's fine.
Where are you doing? Yeah. What about if you had to do? It in the nude.
Sure.
Outstanding. Well over in Australia, the pacifier leads the box office there. That was that Vin Diesel movie where he was the the crack CIA agent and became a babysitter or.
Something I've heard other people recently on social media saying that he was hot when he was wearing the goggles in that movie. That's not just me. Yes, other people talking about how we made that.
The goggles. Ohh Riddick in the Riddick film.
What? That's interesting, right? People agree with me.
Yeah. Good. Excellent. It's also it's in Super Pedia, it's pretty warm there anyway.
Yeah.
Then if we go over to TV, the Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards are aired in Australia. I don't think they'll hell could have been on a delay.
I held a few. Yeah, they were. They'd been held a few weeks ago, but I didn't notice when I was calling the show together for a few weeks ago, but didn't have much for this week. But we aired it.
We'll talk about it, cause there was.
****** all else on this. Week. Been a. Pretty yeah, it was a dead music segment and you know, and then we. Yeah, murder houses and watches and massages in the.
And murder houses. Crazy. Crazy.
Dude, so the the IT was a couple of weeks earlier. Yeah, but we only got it in Australia because, you know, it wasn't that that sort of immediate thing yet. You could still get away with delaying. I don't think anyone even cared to be honest with you, but there was the one where they slimed everyone and all that sort of stuff. Really. Yeah. So they was Drake Bell from Drake and Josh.
Yeah, no, it's like. I like that.
Yeah. No, that's good. That's good.
Got the favourite TV actor? Reward. Yes, you know Drake and Josh great show.
That's pre pre controversy Drake Bell.
There's a documentary about them nowadays, I think because he's yes.
He's. Yeah, he's there's a few. Yeah. A few things have popped up over the years. Well, I don't think we talk about Greg Bell.
It's never a good time I. Think.
Anymore, actually.
Child stars are all a little bit broken and once you get to the core of it, it's Raven. Simone. I think she's well. She broken. No, she's come out of it. The other.
Let's.
No. Was. Was she in the Cosby Show?
Side alright yes. She was, yes.
Yeah. Then she she had that so Raven. So it's your favourite TV actress. So that's so Raven psychic.
Yes. Yes. The incredibles. They love the movie, The Incredibles. They also loved Hilary Duff in a Cinderella story. That was their favourite movie actress.
Yes, why wouldn't. You.
Yep.
The song was let me love you by Mario hmm. Favourite band Green Day, which I think is, you know that's good cause they're bit PG but they're a bit subversive as well. So they're.
Excellent choice. They performed, but they were told they weren't allowed to swear or do anything controversial, but people were still a little. Bit concerned about the performing they're like.
The Kids Choice Awards. Yeah. Yeah. So they then usher. They all loved usher. He was a favourite male singer Avril Lavigne, favourite female singer Johnny Depp got slimed. Yeah. And that's the least of his concerns. Queen Latifah won a wannabe award, which is a bit rude. And Hillary Duff, like we said, became that favourite actress and did it in low rise jeans and laid tank tops with the very Hilary Duff of her? Yes, but Jada Pinkett Smith and Chris Rock cause the the movie Madagascar. They were in the movie Madagascar at.
Yes.
Very, very much. That's OK. Yes, yes.
The time. Yeah. And I've got a feeling this might have been where some of the bad blood may have started, but they all seemed like great friends during the presentation of I don't even know what it what it was.
Ah yeah.
But they were on stage together tonight.
Is Brooklyn in the house?
So listen, Chris, I have to confess, I really loved playing a hippo in Madagascar.
Ohh yeah yeah yeah. I mean, I really, you know, zebras, zebras, got it going on though. Yeah, galloping the planes crazy and hanging with the. The horsey homies you know. And then there's a lot more grass in the zebras like.
Yes, yeah, I'm sure. And with lots of grass, there's lots of gas.
Well, let's let's not talk about that.
OK, Chris. All right now.
That wasn't me, but he who deduced it produced it.
Right. No, no, no. No. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Denied it. Supplied it. OK it. You know what? Forget it. Let's just roll the nominees for the favourite voice for an animated movie.
Yeah.
So a little bit of fart joke there. Yeah. Then what? What I didn't capture was Will Smith in the background. I'll keep my wifes name out your ******* ***.
Lots of fart jokes. Kids love that.
Alright, we're almost out of here, but we can't leave without doing this. All right, the hatches matches in dispatcher segment. The hatches matches and dispatches clue were dispatched this week. Somebody who passed away. Very famous in Australia.
They're like a stranger in the strange land when. I got there. It was so different. The people looked the same. You know, they they had arms and legs, just like we did. These people are that I got into in the political arena. They're tools of trade was an ability.
To talk. If you said Sir Joe Bielke Peterson. You would be correct. The peanut farmer turned politician who ruled QLD for nearly two decades. Yeah, two decades. He was Premier 4.
He hadn't. Entered politics in 1947.
Yes.
Premier 1968, yes. Yeah, for 20. Years.
Yeah, he and he was born in New Zealand in 1911, so he passed away on the 23rd of April in 2005. He was. I don't. My only memories cause I was a child at the time when Bielke Peterson.
Hmm.
Was in which he was often lampooned because he kind of had a lot of gaffes and he bumbled through his bye bye bye, you, you, you sort of, yeah.
He was, yes, he was. He was very, very comical. And we. Yeah, a lot of the the comedy shows would.
Yes.
Send him up, wouldn't I?
Yeah. So as he as he was premier of Queensland, Queensland was quite prosperous, but he was very famous, I think, for a lot of corruption. Police misconduct protest bans. He kind of ruled the state with an iron fist, allegedly allegedly allegedly everywhere. And that really came to light during the Fitzgerald inquiry, when there was a whole bunch of dirty laundry that was aired out about politics in Queensland in particular. So you remember this Tony Fitzgerald QC leads.
Ah. Yeah.
Fitzgerald inquiry into police corruption, but it turns into more than just dodgy cops. It turns into bribes, kickbacks, political favours. This don't ask don't tell culture.
Hmm.
And several high ranking officials in Bioko Peterson's government, including the police commissioner, eventually went to gaol. Yes, now Joe himself, he was charged with perjury in 1991 for lying Underoath during the inquiry, but the trial ended up with a hung jury, and it was later revealed that the jury.
Ohh gosh.
Foreman was actually. Their card carrying member of the National Party, of which Joe was associated with, and so the prosecution just went, oh look, he's too old. He's in pretty bad health around 1991. So we're not gonna try again. So he never went to gaol, he never went to gaol. But that whole inquiry, in spite of the fact that he was never convicted or anything really just touched his legacy. And that's why we talk about him now. And the word corruption and Joe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
He goes and gets mentioned in the same sentence, right? Allegedly. But it the inquiry and the result of all of this led to some big reforms in Queensland with the police oversight and all that sort of stuff. It blew the lid off decades of behind the scenes bad.
Hmm.
Feels and showed just how cosy a lot of those political elite, especially in Queensland, had become. And so I do remember in around 1987, just before the bicentenary, I think the power had started to go to his head a little bit and he launched the Joe for Canberra campaign.
Hmm.
Ice Ice noted that as well because he spelled Joe JOH, which is a weird way to spell Joe, but he was Johannes. Yes, yes. But and that tanked that whole Joe Joe for PM thing tanked and he stepped down, but he thought he was the chosen 1 and all sorts of stuff. Anyway, 94 years old when he passed away.
Yes.
Still convinced that Queensland was better off in his day till the day he died, left a legacy that's a big part of a political circus up there and I'd say pretty unforgettable character like he was. He remember he used to wear safari suits. All the. Time he's in the safari suits, you know, caught up in Queensland Safari.
That's right. Yes, yes. Yeah. And when they used to send him up on, was it like Fast forward or?
Yes, you've been the safaris. Some are uniform. Yes. Long socks. Safari suit. I I remember the Joe. Speak black hole where he like journos had asked him a straightforward question and he'd reply with just some.
Full frontal or one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Able unrelated thoughts. He was just a full train of thoughts guy. So say say you're the the journalist here and I'll be Joe, right? Yeah.
Yes.
OK, alright, tell me about your response to allegations of corruption in your government please, John.
I I I well, you know The thing is if you walk backwards through a revolving door, it doesn't mean you're going forward, does it? And that's why we built the dam.
Sure. I mean, you've taken me back. I do. Yes, I do remember that now, yes.
Very grandpa Simpson. Yes. Do you remember when he he he tried to. He cracked down on St protests by banning them all together. It was illegal to protest. Yes. Yes. The day of St Marches is over. Don't you worry about about that. He's like a James Bond villain. He was ridiculous. He was.
The. Hmm.
And then there was the Joe for Canberra campaign and then he forgot who ran the country at one stage as well. There was that big gaffe. He's in this interview and he referred to the Queen as Australia's head of state, but he stumbled trying to explain her actual role as like well, she looks over things and you know, it's it's ceremonial but important. And sometimes she sends a message. Her and everyone was. Just like oh, Christ.
That's probably what I would say if I was asked what the Queen does or the King now would probably say the same thing, to be honest.
Here you guys again. Well, yeah, Rob, Rob, probably yes, with big gaps between power and accountability that were very much him. He was, you know, I mean, it's just crazy. But Joe Bielke Peterson passed away on this day. And you?
Hmm.
Know I this is.
Just another reason to hate QLD.
As well as I'm concerned.
And that's it. We're done. That's the end of the show for this week. But we've got lots of stuff for you next week.
So please stick around for that. We do. The Airbus A380 makes it's made in flights with some plane staff.
Yeah, that seems to have had a short lived career for a piece of aircraft. I'm being honest. I wonder if a 14 year old kid could get on board that and steal it. That would be great.
We've.
Trampoline could fly it for shelves. Apple released the new operating system, Tiger. We'll chat about that.
Absolutely. Ohh wow. Strap yourselves in folks.
Ohh this it is gonna get bananas BANAN. AS.
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