Fall Out Boy: from under cork trees to overdrawn guyliner

Rewind to 1 May 2005 to 7 May 2005: Fall Out Boy drops From Under the Cork Tree straight into our black emo hearts, Lionel Messi scores his first ever goal and The Bold and the Beautiful pulls the ultimate soap opera move — bringing back Taylor from the dead.

🎤 Fall out boys & mySpace feels.Fall Out Boy dropped From Under the Cork Tree and instantly soundtracked your emo awakening. Whether you were scribbling their lyrics in your notebook or choosing between three equally dramatic away messages, they had you covered. Bonus points if your MSN status or AIM away message said something like “Don’t IM me unless you understand me.”

⚽ Messi makes magic.17-year-old Lionel Messi netted his first league goal for Barcelona, assisted by Ronaldinho, no less. The chip. The swag. The beginning of GOATdom. He was barely out of his growth hormone treatments and already rewriting football history with a napkin-signed contract and a bottle of ketchup.

🚨 Douglas Wood's hostage ordeal In Iraq. Aussie engineer Douglas Wood was kidnapped by insurgents. A shocking video aired, the government refused to budge, and 47 days later, he was rescued. Then came the 60 Minutes exclusive, a national debate, and a diplomatic drama that lingered long after the cameras stopped rolling.

🎬 Don’t panic!The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy topped the box office, confusing normies and delighting nerds. Alan Rickman voiced a clinically depressed robot, Zooey Deschanel was peak 2005 quirky girl and the answer to life, the universe and everything was still 42. Respect the towel.

🎮 Forza revved upXbox. launched Forza Motorsport, a new racing sim that let you drift, tune and paint your way into car nerd glory. 231 real cars, fully customisable liveries and the Nürburgring in your living room. Gran Turismo had officially been put on notice.

📺 Logies, lies and live TV glitches.The 2005 Logies were the chaos we deserved. Rove won everything (again), Chris Hemsworth got his moment and Channel Nine lost the broadcast right before announcing the Gold Logie winner. Also, shout-out to the whitegoods prize pack from voting - nothing says Aussie TV like a blender with your ballot.

📼 Bold, beautiful and back from the dead.Hunter Tylo returned to The Bold and the Beautiful as Taylor, who had apparently been... kidnapped by a prince? Locked in a castle? It's soap logic. Viewers were split between "OMG she's back!" and "WTF did I just watch?"

🎶 Oh... that beat slaps.Ciara and Ludacris gave us Oh, the sultry Atlanta anthem that should've been Janet's but became a dancefloor staple anyway. Ciara’s slow-mo strut still lives rent-free in our TikTok muscle memory.

📖 True Believer, truly dull?Nicholas Sparks released True Believer, which critics described as duller than salt-free crackers and somehow less exciting than watching grass grow. Still, your mum probably bought it at the airport and cried on page 12.

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Chapters

• 0:00 intro
• 0:22 show opener
• 7:51 news
• 21:20 sport
• 26:11 open up the boombox
• 30:30 music
• 49:20 tv and movies
• 1:04:30 gaming
• 1:10:09 books we didn't read
• 1:17:28 hatches, matches and dispatches
• 1:21:43 show closer

Transcript

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Max. 

Week 1 May 2005. 

What you do this is the talk. 

Show. Ice breaker. Don't judge me yet this. Is bananas. Do you see where this is going? 

My question is. 

Who approved that? Not really. 

Ohh hi, welcome to T Miners 20. The podcaster travels back exactly 20 years to reheat the cultural leftovers that made us who we are. Slightly chaotic, emotionally scarred, still quoting. Is this the way to Amarillo? Unironically. All of that sort of stuff. With your host Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel. 

Hello. Yes, we are rolling the dial back two decades to the week of the 1st to the 7th of May 2005. What do we got? News, music, movies. 

Yeah, celebrity kale. Some of the leftovers have have aged quite well. Better quality, preservatives perhaps. Tech mixed bag of. In them and others have others have got a bit of yeah. 

Yeah. Better reheated than near than the OG. 

Some of them have got some green. Fur growing on them. I've probably they're they're slightly turning blue as well. So just to be aware. 

Yes, this week fall out. Boy goes full emo. The album title that's probably longer than your. Myspace bio was. 

Ohh, weren't they good for that? Yeah, we'll talk more about them. 

Wow. 

Ronaldinho to Messi will he get that first goal for Barcelona? Remember the name Leonel Messi at the age of 17 scores his first goal for Barcelona. 

Yeah, Lionel Messi scored his first goal. You'll remember the name because he sold a fortune in merchandise since then. 

Her name is still around today, yes. 

One of the greatest players of all time, and that was his humble beginnings or not so humble beginnings playing for FC Barcelona, but. We'll talk more about that in the sport segment. 

Of the show, what we will remind them of between now and polling day is what they have now and what is there for at risk. What they have now is the economic stability and the investment in public services and the action on crime. 

What's the nostalgia sites call an election of interest. An election of interests. Tony Blair winning. 

What they call. It. What do we call it? Huge throbbing election over. UK. 

We also had the Australian TV night night of nights, the Logies so. 

Ohh TV's as voted by TV week viewers. 

There there was. 

Well, that's the thing. There was a lot of voting going on this week, 20 years ago. 

And. 

Hasn't it changed the? 

Large yeast. 

The way in which we vote. 

Yes. Look, I plan on eating on that from a great height later on. 

Are you always? You always do. But I actually found a copy online. Someone had taken photos. So it wasn't a legit online version. It was someone who taken photos of their 2005 TV Week magazine. Yep. Back Hewitt was on the cover because she was still on home and away. Was she? 

In the show, yes. Timmy, wait. Yeah. 

Name trying to remember now. Ohh my goodness. 

I can't remember. I don't remember any of the names of the home and. Away cake. Because the the star that was Bec Hewitt, the character of Bec Hewitt far eclipsed her character on home. It was like. 

Haley or something? Haley. There was it, Haley. Did know. 

Is that what? 

It was, she was sure. Yes. You're right. It was Hayley. And there was a new romance brewing in Summer Bay because she was Beck and Bo. And I think they were. They were off screen. 

Are we? OK. Yeah, that's right. Was there? 

Hmm. 

TV power couple for a little while. Yes, I think it's just to sell magazines. Really. Yeah. 

Couple for a while too. But then there was a new. Lover. Anyway, so I had. A peruse it was a good addition. Of TV week and I had. A look at the actual voting. Because back then, you'd have to go to the newsagents. 

For the logies. 

Yeah. 

You'd have to buy a copy of TV week. Yeah, you'd take it home. You'd have to get out. Yeah, I think you could only use black or blue gyro. Right. Had to be byro. Uh-huh. And you'd cross? Not tick. You'd have to do a cross in the boxes. You'd cut it out, and then you'd have to send it in. You'd have to get a stamp. 

Isn't that just like, look at that, the machinations of democracy, yeah. 

Go back to the post office so 2 cheques. 2 pints to the shops, blue or black pyro. 

Yes. 

And no mistakes. 

So those criteria are even with the pin colour, what happens if you did it with red as void your? 

Boy it, and if you did a tick, had to be a cross. But they did say if you did stuff it up, you could scribble it out and then put your cross somewhere else. So if you changed your mind, maybe you. 

Vote would not count. Wow. 

Yeah. 

Right. Do you have to? Do you have to follow that up with us? 

Know, yeah. You did a cross on back, but then you didn't like her new love interest and I'm. 

Yeah. ****. Now I've gotta write a statutory declaration. 

Looking at home from that house. 

What? Hi this this. Process is getting more and more onerous as we go on. Yeah, that's alright. They're down at the hyperdome, I think on Tuesdays. Go and talk to one of them. God, that is crazy. 

Did you get a JP to sign in? Authorise it for? Me. 2 pages it was there was 11 categories in which to vote. All the names. 

Yeah. Uh, can you go above or below? Lines. 

Well, you could. You could vote for your favourite, but if your favourite didn't appear, there was an other column right down the bottom. It said other please specify but you had to do it in block. 

Hmm. 

Letters. So. All caps and you'd write the name if they didn't appear because the names were just you. 

Really. 

An option to consider wasn't necessarily everybody that was on TV at that point, but I think it would have swayed it. Surely the the options that were presented to you. 

No. Yeah. Like in it go into the the best music category and you. Went to other like. You could put your favourite commercial Jingle or something so 131332. What was that? Lube my. 

Yeah, yeah. 

A little something like that. There we go. 

You had to vote in all categories or it was null and void. Yes, it is actually sounding like polling day really. 

Really. 

Look it just. 

Tick one box above the line you had to. Do them all. Below it is it's, you know, what did you get $110? Fine if you forgot. 

To vote for the lokis? No. But you went in the running to win a prize. So if you voted because you have to put your details down the bottom as well. Also in block letters, you'd go in the running to win a white goods package. 

If you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 

White goods and kitchen appliance package, right? That's what you want. 

Well, that sounds fun. Full. 

A fridge. There was a washing machine, a bar, fridge, just a little bit. I think there was a blender, there was a hand mixer. You know the old hand mixers that you make the cake stuff with. 

They were really leaning into the demographic, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Basically. 

That's the icing. 

Basically the same sort of showcase that you would see if you were working into the foyer of like the Hellenic Club or the RSL. Yes, pretty. Just put your put your tickets in the barrel and it'll be drawn at the end of the month, which is actually probably a good way to decide who wins logies. Just put tickets into a barrel and draw at the end of the. 

Spin it around? Yeah, why not? 

Month. I mean it's. Get slim pickings now. With all that reality TV. Time for the Hatch match and dispatch clue, which we will revisit. We'll play a little clue for you now. You see if you can guess who it is. And that person will be revealed at the end of the show. 

And if you're correct, you're in a white goods. Package. 

You, you, you win the opportunity to walk into your kitchen and peruse your own white goods package that you already own. It's pretty slim pickings this week, so like nothing really of note, I thought that anyone would be able to guess from a birth, death or marriage, so I just went with a birth day fire. 

With an electric fire pan and the saucepan set. 

A nuclear weapon. 

There you go. That's a good one. Good one. You've probably already guessed who it is. And if you haven't, you're like, geez, that voice sounds familiar one more time. 

That's. Of my favourites. 

Fire the nuclear weapons. Find. 

Out segment at the end. Of the show. The hell is going on there? It sound like I was in a Bunnings commercial or something. Find out segment at the end of the show. Get a sausage on your way in. All proceeds go to. The Lions Club? What? It's time for the. News. 

Yes, serious boys, please. 

Ohh it is serious news too. Very serious news. 

It is the 2nd of May 2005. Douglas Wood is taken hostage in Iraq. 

Yes. I don't mean yes, it's in a celebration. I mean, yes, as in, I agree. See, now it made it awkward because you're, like, taking hostage in Iraq. And I'm like, yes. But but no, it wasn't like a. Yes, it's like. 

Not an exciting this it. 

A. Yes, I'm acknowledging what happened to him. 

Was a. You're in knowledge. Well, he wasn't actually taken hostage on the second. I think this is what the second was when we became aware of it so on. The 30th of. April, he was kidnapped in Baghdad alongside 2 Iraqi colleagues. 

Yes. And we became aware of it on the. 2nd of May. 

Yeah, he was over there pursuing a construction contract, and the captors identified themselves as the Shura Council. 

Yes, for the Mujahadeen of Iraq, yeah, the the Mujahideen. 

Alright. Ah yes. And they were the ones that were demanding withdrawal of Australian, US and British troops from Iraq. 

Yes, they were also the ones that Rambo fought alongside in Afghanistan in Rambo 3, he joined, joined the Mujahideen unfairly. Certain, maybe that's incorrect. 

Really. 

Fun facts. 

Don't Fact Check me on my Rambo knowledge. Although I am pretty good with Rambo, but not so good with this. Obviously yes, I'm making it very awkward. I man was kidnapped for God's sakes. 

Back to Douglas. You are and the other two that. Were abducted, were executed shortly after. 

Ohh yeah, that was bad. He it was a very traumatic kidnapping for. 

Him. Yeah. And so we get to the 2nd of May and a video by Al Jazeera showed a visibly distressed wood pleading for his life. 

Yes. 

And urging coalition forces to leave Iraq. Yeah, the government, led by John Howard, was Prime Minister at this point, firmly refused to negotiate with the kidnappers or alter its military policy. 

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer emphasised that conceding to demands could encourage further kidnapping. 

Of course, there's no guarantee, not by a long shot that we'll be able to get Douglas Wood released, but we'll do everything we can. With two exceptions, we won't be paying ransom and we won't be changing our policies. We're not subcontracting our foreign policy to terrorists. And we're certainly not going to have the money of Australian taxpayers expropriated by terrorists. 

Tough talk from the foreign minister at the time he was in captivity for 47 days, Douglas Wood. 

Oh. 

It wasn't looking like it was gonna be a good outcome. I remember thinking at the time because there were a few of these kidnappings that have been happening over the years and and some of them, you know, the outcomes were terrible. 

Yeah, yeah. Yes. 

So for this one I remember thinking. Because they just pay the money. I remember being quite torn. I I completely understood why they were so firm in their stance, but it was a person's life. And you just really felt for the family and the family. Obviously thinking ohh, what can we do? 

Here. Yeah. Well, it was traumatic. I mean, he saw all the people around him executed. 

Yeah. 

He was bashed, he was chained to the bed, he and then he saw when he was imprisoned as well. So at the kidnapping he saw people get killed and then where he was imprisoned, he also saw people get killed on the 15th of June, 2005, the cavalry came. He was. 

Hmm. 

Rescued by Iraqi forces, funnily enough, who were who performed a raid acting on intelligence from local residents. And there was a Colonel there, Mohammed Al Samarrai, who led the operation. He faced heaps of assassination attempts after this and threats from insurgent groups because they basically were thinking, well, you're a traitor, you know. In in rescuing this high value hostage of ours, and despite woods appealing like cause that he wanted to seek, I think. I guess asylum he wanted to move to Australia afterwards. The Colonel that led the operation wanted to move to Australia afterward, and Woods advocated for him many, many times and they and the government denied him every time and it would would appeal and they'd still deny him. So he he never got to come here. And Woods described that as as pretty shabby. 

Here. Yeah. 

While the Australian government. 

Hmm, there was a lot of controversy around the rescue as well, with reports suggesting that a negotiated release was sabotaged by political interests at the time, which potentially prolonged his ordeal. There was also a third video of him recorded in late May, which was kept secret at the time, also raising questions about the transparency of the situation. 

Yeah, I think too. Like I, I I know that his family had probably tried to get around the policy. I mean, as you would like, you'd be like, alright. 

Yes. 

Well, this is their demands and surely we can just pay the ransom and get him back. And the governments like. No, no, no, no, no. And it's like, well, hang on. This is like our dad, our our husband, whatever. You know. So it was another kidnapping in Iraq of a contractor. And it just shows how dangerous it was over there doing that work. I mean, The thing is is I think the. 

Yeah. 

Lure of the pay was was very high there as well, but it got a lot of debate going about policies for hostage situations. And while Wood did survive that the fate. Of. His colleagues and the treatment of his his rescuers really made everyone sort of reflect and go. This is pretty complicated. 

And it was such a big news story as well, and it was it. Well, it ended up being a a good news story from his point of view, obviously. So when he came back to Australia, I remember the the Wheeling and dealing that went on to try and get that exclusive interview with him. And I think it was Sandra Sully in the end who got the the big exclusive something. Like $400,000, he was paying. Yes, yes. And it was such a big deal at the time. 

It's like back when channel 10 had money, yeah. 

To to hear from him. 

It was, but the sentiment, I think, shifted too. As soon as people find out that he kind of sold the story and profited from it, the sentiment changed about him a bit. But I'm kind of. Like, well, if you had all of that happened to you and people were kicking down the door for you to tell the story and offering you sums of money and competing for it, you would be mad not to accept that. 

Yeah. And you probably you think about the trauma that that you would have gone through and continue to go through for the rest of your life. You're probably not gonna work again. You know so well, absolutely, yeah. 

Yeah, yeah. You gotta do something to look out for yourself. Yeah. Let's go over to the UK on the 5th of May. They they had a the big election that we wanted to talk about, the election of interest. The UK held its general election, which resulted in. 

Ohh, our election of interests. 

The third consecutive term for Tony Blair's Labor Party, although with a very reduced majority. So it this was a bit of. A a pot. Luck politically because a lot of the the loyalties were changing. There was stuff in the tabloids and it really was probably the beginning of the end for one of Britain's most. Iconic political figures 1 Tony Blair and just have a listen. This was on the eve of the election. So he's in Parliament on the eve of the election. Addressing and kind of really dressing down the opposition and I've gotta say, he's a very good political performer. 

What we will remind them of between now and polling day is what they have now and what is therefore at risk, what they have now is the economic stability and the investment in public services and the action on crime. So the choice is indeed very clear. And what I say to the British. People is this? Economic stability is at risk. Your job is at risk, your mortgage is at risk, the economy is at risk. And therefore, when you come to make that choice on May the 5th, realise the fundamental nature of it, realised what you experienced under 18 years of Conservative government. Realise the progress we've made and under 8 years of Labour government and then go out and realise too that unless people come out and support it, that stability, that investment will no longer happen, the clock will be turned back and the very self, same crew they voted to get rid of in 1997 will come back. Yes, it is a big choice and I can't wait till the public make it. 

Wow, very passionate. There's that charismatic front man from what was his band called, Can't Remember. 

He's he's good at me. Ohh I can't remember the name of the band, but it should have been Tony in the something but it wasn't so well like listening to the passion and he's very good in Parliament, great performer in Parliament, but also listening to that speech and every time we get close, I'm always thinking about political speeches that were kind of good from days. 

Yes. Yeah. Yes. 

Gone by. 

Hmm. 

Because you play that audio and there's a lot of politicians and they've been caught out a few times where they will dig up old speeches from either stuff they've seen on TV or whatever, and it's generally not the politicians fault because their stuff has been written by a speechwriter. Unless, of course, they're in the Parliament, where they're probably pulling their words together off their own bat to kind of respond to stuff. But generally it's planned. 

Oh, when rehash. Copying someone else's homework? Yes. 

Right. And so, yeah, so you'll occasionally hear like I think there was a a politician in Australia who had. Done a speech verbatim that was straight from like The West Wing or something like that. So it's always interesting hearing those things and then going. 

That's right. 

Yeah, well, there's a lot of political campaigning happening around here at the moment and you know, voting for the logies is on you might you might hear. 

Yes. Yes. 

That speech pop up somewhere else. 

Might make it, but he wins another Gold Logie. 

God help us if he wins another one. I'm moving to New Zealand if that happens. 

Labour won labour. Won in this election of Interest 355 seats. But it was a a significantly reduced majority and we kind of touched on this earlier this year. We had spoken about it. 

Yes, they became muted. 

Yeah, compared to their landslide back in 2001, they lost 47 seats and the share of the popular vote slumped to 35.2%, which was the lowest for any party that had won in modern UK history. Conservatives, led by Michael Howard, they made modest gains of 100. 

Yeah. 

And 98 seats. And the Liberal Democrats under Charles Kennedy had their best result in decades. With 62 seats. 

The battlers, the battlers I look, I think. The the big. Why? Well, it's not even the elephant in the room, because it was still all happening. But it was the the Iraq war that really kind of digging in. And we knew that we've discussed that sentiment as well. So you know, that was 2003, this is 2005. The public trust is just eroding, especially after that whole. 

Yeah, yeah. Liar. Instead of Blair? Wasn't it liar? 

Yes, Blier and the dodgy dossier control. Mercy and no weapons of mass destruction and the protests and like protesters, were following him everywhere on the campaign trail as well, trying to shut him up as well. So he was getting heckled and all of that sort of stuff, even in his own constituency. I think there was a anti war independent candidate called Reg. 

Yeah. 

The son died in Iraq. He stood against him and and I don't think that he did all that well. But the fact that there's someone whose son has died over there. 

Well. 

He standing against the guy that kind of was responsible for sending him over there. Yeah, not all good. 

There were some lighter moments as well. We loved the fringe candidates. 

Yes. Don't you like, you know, the sex party over here we have. 

Ohh. What was the one over in America? There was the **** stars, wasn't there the? 

Ah, they all the **** stars always pop up somewhere in crazy elect. 

Yeah, there are few Intel. Ones that's a big election of interest, isn't it? 

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yes. 

I think in the Arnie one, the. Arnie, one there. 

Very, I think it's like you. Ohh, it's an election. Oh my goodness. Yes. I've shown up to the completely the wrong events, yeah. 

Listen very eclectic. Ohh right, I thought that was an ah, right. Whoops. Whoops, wrong workplace. My bad over in the UK they had the official monster. 

MHM. 

Craving Looney Party, who promised to ban all forms of grey. 

Great. Great party. 

And replace it with psychedelic colours. Hey, that's pretty good. 

Just got my vote. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not it's, you know, it's not really something. I mean, there's healthcare, there's taxes, there's fixing roads and they're like, no, we're gonna put psychedelic colours on everything that's grey. Does that include the road? Maybe. Maybe. 

Hi there. More colour the world needs more colour. 

Sure. 

The Rainbow Rd on Mario Kart. 

Ohh gosh. Actually no, they're OK. I'm not voting for. 

Over there. And then you say. 

Them now. Yes. Well, like we said, unfortunately for for old Tony, even though he did win, it was a bit of a double edged sword, cause his authority was a bit rubbish after. That, and I think that a lot of people were thinking Gordon Brown was gonna take over very soon thereafter, but he hung on until 2007. And but you know, so he did pretty well. But I think this was just that, that big crack in the armour sign when the when the stats came in, they were like, OK, so there you go. Tony Blair slowly. 

Yes. 

Starting to go downhill for him. 

Losing his shine. But wow, what a performer is Parliament. Hey. 

There's always music. You go back to his bands. Yeah, why not? 

Fall back to his music career, do you reckon? Wouldn't that be interesting? You're just sitting in some little bloody pub out in some suburb of London or whatever and. All of a sudden, this guy walks in and sets up on stage with an acoustic guitar and he's like you've got any requests. Please keep them to yourself as some of my musician friends say, be great. 

Kind. 

Sport. Ohh let's yes. 

Of. 

Yeah. 

This is a name that's still kicking around. Today, isn't it? 

Trees. 

Lionel Messi on the 1st of May, 2005 scores his first senior league goal for FC Barcelona. 

Ronaldinho to netting will he get? That first goal for Barcelona. Remember the name Lionel Messi at the age of 17 scores his first goal for Barcelona. 

Was it Lionel? I thought it was Lionel. Lionel. Lionel. 

Lino Lionel in Australia depends. Yeah, it depends on what side of the pond you're on. Lionel. Lionel. 

Yeah, let's stick with. 

Like as in. Lionel. So it was his. It was actually his second attempt in the same match, cause the first time he went for it he was ruled offside and then he had another crack. He did exactly the same thing. He got it the second time. He wasn't offside and that was in the 87th minute of the game, so it was only a few minutes to go and that was the first. 

Oh. 

The first of over 800 in counting for. Him. He's a, you know, 17 years old, no pressure whatsoever. The weight of the world on his shoulders charges out. There, doesn't do much for most of the game. He was probably subbed on. I'm not even sure. I didn't watch the game on. 

Wasn't he helped, helped by Ronald Diner. 

Ohh Ronald Dino had the assist. Yeah, yeah, they were. He he was a mentor. Yes, he's a good friend of his. Yes, but it was clever. It was a very cool goal. Kind of chipped it. 

Yes, it was mental. 

Yeah, it was nice. 

And you got. 

A. You got a few interesting facts about Messi, don't you? 

Ohh you're queuing me. You're like, hurry up and and get on. With. 

Well, it is sport. Yes. Let's keep it moving. 

Yeah. OK. His first contract was actually written on a napkin in a Spanish restaurant after he had. You know, it was the club officials, I think I started trying and I thought, oh, we better sign him now. So they're like, well, let's get a contract and like, let's just write it on this napkin. And they're like, yeah, sure. That looks legit. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, if somebody did that to you now, you think you're being scammed. He had a growth hormone deficiency. So he grew up a bit medically challenged he and it cost a lot of money. 

Hmm. 

Absolutely. 

The treatment for his. It's his growth hormone deficiency, but FC Barcelona saw that as a a good investment, so they actually offered to pay for the cost when a lot of the other clubs in Argentina wouldn't, which probably encouraged him to get signed as well. They're like, hey, mate, listen, come with us, we'll pay for all your hospital bills and all that sort of stuff he. So he's and he's very loyal to Argentina. So he spent all of his life. As a pro in Spain, but he rejected and offered to play for Spain's national team and waited for a call up from Argentina instead. And he's he's got a ketchup fetish. He likes putting ketchup on everything. Yeah, yeah. And then The thing is is when I was doing the research, they said. 

Hmm. 

Right. OK, it's good. Good to know. 

Even steak and rice. And I'm like, what's wrong with putting ketchup on steak and rice like, as if it was some kind of cardinal sin to put ketchup on steak and rice. I mean, it sounds delicious. To me. This is that Heinz ketchup. It's lovely. Really nice. 

Add that sounds quite standard. How could she, could she? Yeah, he's estimated net worth as of this year is over. $600 million. 

It's not bad for kicking a bowler, in fact. 

Record breaking contracts with FC Barcelona, PSG into Miami and then obviously lots of endorsement deals Adidas, Pepsi, Gatorade. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. Wow. Could you be Pepsi? 

And Gatorade, that seems like a conflict of interest. 

Like maybe at the same time, maybe because, well, maybe they're owned by the same company, maybe. 

Are they? Ohh. Possibly. 

I don't know one of them like, you know, like Coca Cola. And two, you know, like sprites. Like coke and yeah. 

Ohh, OK, so Cokes probably Powerade and Pepsi's Gatorade. I don't know. I don't know enough about. 

Maybe. Who knows? You're like crossing so many brand streams here. It's a it's a slippery slope. 

I don't know. I don't understand. Just. That. That blue drink I drink when I'm hungover and it makes me feel better. That's. 

Yeah, you don't you not to be confused. 

All I know. 

With toilet water. Yeah. No, I don't know. I'd say maybe it's separate times. Maybe you just shop it around so. 

Yeah. OK, fair. 

OK, My Pepsi contracts up. Is there any sports drinks that wanna enter the fray? You know, something like that. He's also. He's very philanthropic though, too. Like he. Yeah, he does. He's got a foundation, the the Messy Foundation or the Leo Messi Foundation, I should say, which he established in 2007. And that was he did a lot of stuff for vulnerable. 

Yeah, yeah, good negotiator. 

Is it? 

Children, you know, treatment for them with medical scholarships, sports programmes, UNICEF campaigns. He's a UNICEF goodwill ambassador. He has been since 2:00. Ten health I think he donated about €1,000,000 to hospitals in Barcelona and Argentina during COVID. Wow. Yeah. And he regularly gets into all the charity matches and stuff like that. So yeah, look at that. I mean, you know, what have you done since you were 17? Actually, I don't wanna tell. 

No. 

Now, good on you. 

You it's embarrassing. 

What have you put your ketchup on, eh? 

Podcasts. Oh my God, there's a bit much. It's a bit much this early in the podcast, opening up the boom box so that, that, that intro. Is just so much more to deal with than the rest of the other little segues that we have here it. Just needs the. 

Drama because this this segment is high drama, high drama sets the scene. 

Yeah, I just had a must have been bored on that production day and decided to just go the extra mile. My, I'm just gonna turn this into my my magnum opus. No, it's not. It's rubbish. But, but this is this segment is not. This is a very important segment. 

Give it everything. Suck it all in there. It's a masterpiece. 

For anyone in our demographic. 

It is. Hmm. 

It's it's, it's your opportunity to just complain and not only complain, but lean into it. Lean into the fact that you know, if you were doing this out in society, you were at a gathering. There might be some young, ***** **** over the other side of the room that here's your complaint and then turns around and looks at you and says, OK, Boomer and then the whole. 

Hmm. 

Room looks at you and laughs. There is no judgement here. There is no laughter here. We are here for your boomer complaints, yeah. 

Yeah, go on. You're still wearing ankle socks. We love them, we love. Of them, and they're usually tech related, and they're usually things that we're all suffering from. So let's suffer together. 

Well, I think they transcend generations too. I think I feel like a boomer, but I feel as a Gen xer that my complaints are very similar and we kind of this is where we can bond across that divide with our complaints. 

I think so. Yes, yes we can. We can all hate on technology together and the youth of today at the same time. 

Yes, and you have exactly and it's your opportunity to be part of it as well. If you ever wanna slide into our DM's and give us one. I did say that the amount of booms that we. 

Yes. 

Deaths from people who slide into our dams would be a really good litmus test to gauge as to how successful this podcast is, and we've been doing these for about 4 episodes now. Yes, maybe more. I'm not sure, and it's not going. 

Yes. 

Yes. 

Great. We had one voice note from lowest one star, actually lowest one star. 

We did, we. 

Did have a voice though. 

Ohh yes. 

Have some voice notes. 

Oh, that was nice of her. Yeah, but last time. Last time Lois gave us a voice note. She was sexually harassing me. So I don't know about that. 

Yeah, we should pick that up. Yeah, it's a bit touch and go gets. 

Hmm. 

In touch but. 

Don't say touch and go. 

To Lois this but I. Will it's an election of interest swings. Boom comes from Simon. Hmm. Thank you, Simon, because we can all relate I. Think here we go. Download an app, register as a user, load your credit card info and scroll through 7 pages of questions, all to avoid saying one large pepperoni pizza, please into a phone. 

Oh my God. Isn't that just a a delight or even still? 

So true. 

Even in a restaurant and look, I'm not too adverse to this. 

Of the QR codes. 

Doing the QR code ordering from the table. 

COVID kind of got us familiar with the QR codes once again, let's. 

Yeah, but it's like you gotta, you gotta. You gotta sign up to the app. Or if you have a good experience there, even though, like, the person who does the job that they're supposed to do, where they bring you the food and take your order and all that stuff, they've kind. 

Sort of pull this back. To the QR code. 

Of. Been made redundant by a QR code. If you have a good experience you can rate them, but then it's like oh, if you want rate us, you've gotta you've got to sign up. 

Yes. 

You'll sign up for this. 

I can't order at the restaurant with. The QR codes. Because my phone, I don't know how to do the QR code on my phone, so I got a QR code reader, but the QR code reader has since expired or it's done something. I've got like the free version and so if I want to scan the QR code I've got to watch like 5 ads or something before I can even get. To the menu. 

Oh my God. I know. Or you could just go and find a. 14 year old to show you how to do it. 

How many apps, though, do you have on your phone for things like that where you've you've ordered something once from a restaurant? 

Used it. Yeah, yeah. 

And or a clothing store. And there's just no logical you know how you order your apps, you put them in the little boxes and you group them all together. I've just got, like, this whole kind of. 

Hmm. 

Grouping of just. Crap apps that I've ordered from once. 

Yes, my digital footprint resembles like a hoarders storage locker. It's really bad. It's just junk. It's never going anywhere, and it's not doing anything much like me. 

No. 

To slip your. 

Slope booming into music because it gets me fired up before this segment. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if that was a strategic thing or you just did that by accident. 

Oh dear. Yeah, that's not a good idea. Do you need to do some breathing? With the flower app. 

I'm alright. I'm OK. I don't. The flower app. No, I've, I've. I've never breathed. I've never breathed. 

Yeah. You know the thing. On your watch. I don't think it's a flower anymore. Actually, it's. 

With the. 

Like a psychedelic thing. 

Ohh really? 

Yeah, like that party. It does a it does a weird thing now. It used to. Be a flower, that sort of stretched and. 

You give you give me something else to take with it. I might get down with that. That sounds exciting. Yeah, sure. 

Very relaxing, very. 

Hmm. 

UK number one, we're still trying to find the way to. Amarillo. 

Sweet Marie, who waits for me. Show me the way. 

They're number one for once, I love it. 

Bringing a lot of people a lot of joy, watching Peter Kay lip sync to that Tony Christie. Classic. 

Brand new number one for us here in Australia, signs Snoop Dogg feat. JT and Charlie Wilson. 

Ohh wow, you did it. 

Didn't remember that. 

Bit I forgot that I've forgotten about that song till just now. I like that song. 

Are you serious? I think that helped legitimise. I'm like, don't encourage him. Don't encourage Justin Timberlake, you know. 

I haven't thought about it for a while. Justin, I watched the video clip for it because often the video clip is an extended. Version and I. Thought is he gonna try and beatbox near Snoop Dogg? Because I want to see what happens, but he didn't. He didn't beatbox. He he held his beatboxing. 

He's not like he's he's only allowed to beat Box on hard floors like not carpet like oh, I'm not and bucket to beat to, to, to Timberlake cause he's beatboxing. 

Tom. He was in Vegas for that clip. It was very blingy driving a blingy car around Vegas. 

Hmm. Well, this is a guy that, you know, he really wants to hang. With the big boys, yeah. 

Oh, that's. Right. Because he was for. Reeling. Genuine. Wasn't he around this time? 

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think you can hear a lot of Pharrell's influence in there. Can't you cause the Neptunes produced that, didn't that? 

Britney's book reveals. Neptune produced it. Well, this is, I think the Neptunes may have brokered an introduction because they basically did justins justified out them and they were working. They were working with Snoop at the time. So they. 

Hmm. Yes. And then Pharrell's on drop it like it's hot and yes. Hmm. 

Like hey. 

Hmm. 

We've got an. Idea. 

Hmm. 

Match these two together. 

Whose album was that one? On. That was Snoop's album. Was it? 

Yes, it was the rhythm and gangster, R&G's, rhythm and gangster, the masterpiece. But Snoop was doing a lot of crossover every things. 

So it's just a death. It's just a special guest. Hmm, that's a bit, Sir. The Dicentric the master. You call that? A masterpiece there. 

I think this was how Snoop was kind of moving into the new age version of the. 

Reinventing himself. He's very clever like that. 

Yeah, the the radio. Friendly version of Snoop. Mm-hmm. Softening around the edges, mums and dads were starting. 

Yeah, yeah. 

To go ohh yeah. 

Hmm. 

Let's ******* and hoes more Justin Timberlake. This is good. I'll let my child listen to. 

Yeah, yeah. 

To Snoop. Now we can accept this. The hook is heavily inspired by the gap bands song early in the morning. 

Yeah. Yes, I I I do see that and I'm just reading the. I'm just reading that tiny little instruction. Yeah, there's a little instruction in there that I. 

Did you see? Did you see? 

The square bracket, some square brackets. In square brackets, which is like pay attention and can you do this for me please? 

Didn't, actually. Yeah, didn't actually see that. So certainly as a guest says get a grab. Please, please, please. 

What does it say in? The. 

And you couldn't be bothered putting the vowels in. So I staged A protest and I didn't perform that task because you just wrote, you just wrote. Please you. There's an E and an A and another E in. 

I was typing fast. Peel it well. I was in a hurry. 

There. Please. Yes. Yes. So because you didn't ask, I'll put it in later. Sorry about that. 

Wow, OK. 

OK. 

That's my bad. 

So I gotta. 

Yes. 

Eric, come on. 

It was directed by the video clip was directed. By Paul hunter. 

We've just come back after I've put this thing in too. Just if you're wondering. 

I can hear. Yeah, I can hear that. Yeah, I can really hear that in the in the song. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Las Vegas. As I mentioned, there was an underground boxing gym as well. And this is the thing he's he's teaming up with these younger pop stars. 

It's still echoing in, yeah. Uh. 

To kind of soften his image and get a bit more airplay on the radio, but as a consequence, it was actually not great for Justin because you've got that line in there. 

Trying to rise to the occasion wants to play with the big boys. Was he smoking weed with Snoop Dogg? Was he or no? 

And he's. No, the he in the song you heard in the chorus, it was. I'm not sure what I see. Cooper, don't F with me and he didn't drop a swear. Have you got maybe play it? 

Is that what he says? Ohh yeah, they cut it out or some crap. Yeah, the. Cupid don't if with me. 

But. 

Radio stations were still even though it was censored. They didn't like Justin, alluding to a swear, and it and radio sensors were even upset about the edited version. 

Hmm. 

Really. It's not very Disney of him, is it? 

They thought. Was a bit too much for the clean cut. Justin. Yeah, yeah. 

Hmm. 

Well, I would say that hanging around with someone who smokes weed everyday and has been up on, you know, or implicated on murder charges and. 

Yes, murder was the case that they gave you. 

Might might be a little bit more, you know, controversial than just dropping the odd little swear ever. 

Rather. Keeping. 

Yes. 

Down and then. 

Yeah, that's. 

True thing with Cupid. Yeah. What are you gonna tell you, Snoop Dogg or a fat little white cherub with a bow and arrow and wings that flies around? In a nappy. 

Over in the US, the top five went like this. 

5. 

Southern style games Wild Oats will coming down in a different. Colour wheel wheel pixel perfect. 

So lonely, Mr Lonely, I have nobody. 

Hi. 

And I'm gonna. 

1. No hall. That girl ain't no half of that. 

Ohh don't you can't say that that's a swear. 

Ohh, checking out. Yes sensors, they're very crazy. 

No, it's fine. It's fine. I don't think anyone really mind. 

Brand new, number one, it's sweet. 

Yes, holler back girls up there. Candy Shop is sliding down the pole. Really is. It's almost at the bottom of the pole now closing time. It's gonna pick up those little dollar bills off the stage and stuff it down the G string and then head back to the change rooms. 

It does happen. 

Alright. 

Little bit sweaty. Little bit. Stay at the top of the pole. That just happened to me. My hands used to get too sweaty. I could never stay up. On the pole and always slide back down. 

You stuffing money in your G string afterwards. 

No, there was no money involved. It was fitness, fitness, pole dancing. 

No. Well, you paid. You paid for someone to teach you how to pole dance. Yeah, yeah, this should be the other way around. Like people usually get paid for pole dancing. 

It did. It did. It was a legitimate pole dancer. That was the instructor. So. Well, the legitimate pole dancer got paid for teaching us. 

I guess you've got. Well, you've. 

How to pole dance so? 

Gotta you're acquiring the? Trade is is it, was it a TAFE? 

Yeah, that's. Trade secrets. 

Certificate off Steven getting power dancing. 

I did. I do have a certificate somewhere actually. Of course you do. Yeah. I had a recital. Yeah. You didn't come? I don't think I invited you. Actually, I had a recital. 

I might have. That's probably why I didn't. 

Show up. 

At the end of it, we did a recital. Yeah, and we all had different routines to do. So nervous I was so. 

I wasn't allowed to go. 

Nervous. Ohh yeah, that's right. I don't think boys were allowed. 

There was no boys were allowed, yeah. 

But there. But there was a guy there that was like a guy stripper. Yeah. And he was allowed to go there. But I. Think he worked there? What? Yeah, there was a guy stripper. 

I don't. That's I. I don't approve. 

He wasn't a very good. 1. Really. No, he wasn't. I don't know why I. 

Most of them ask. Let's be honest. You know, it's very hard to cover up all that back knee when you're a male stripper. You're taking all those steroids. Yeah, because that's what they like, you know. But how did we get on to this ohh candy shop? Yeah, it's almost there. It slipped. 

Don't know why he was there. It was all a bit odd actually. Now that I think about it. Yeah. A. Was #3 number. 

To the middle of the pole. 

3 #3 hate. It hate it or love it was number. Two, you skipped over that, don't forget. 

Uh-huh. Yeah. 

That that's a good song. I'm real. Really, really enjoying that song at the moment. Really. Like it lonely acorn and at #4 is that dad said on super Sweet 16 and new entry this week. 

Yes, it is good. It's good. Hmm, really not a fan of that. 

Yes. Oh. 

Ohh Ciara, featuring Ludacris. Ohh Sierra. Ohh OK. 

Featuring Luda, spring rolls are unpredictable Chris. 

OK, southern style, get wild old tools coming down in a. Different colour wheel wheel. The perfect you might want to take a click, click, click, click, click call it jazzy telling pop the bottle because we got another hit. 

We. 

That's that word. The title of that song. Ohh. 

It's just it's get. 

You one word with so many meanings, like, yeah, what do you think? 

I think. It should have been spelt O HHH because she's. Oh oh, maybe like ohh 08. Ohh. 

Oh. 

Yeah. 

And they've just smelled 08 like ohh. 

Or it's like when you drive past something dead on the road. And you're like ohh it's. 

It's an indifferent. Ohh, isn't it spelled that? 

Yeah, it's not like it's it could you could be indifferent, you could be surprised. It all just depends on the tone. Ohh yeah, exactly right. 

Way she should have thought about that. Ohh. 

Ohh. 

Like when you get a. Fridge when a cat jumps out at you and. 

Yeah. Or or some interesting. Some interesting news, you know, like. Yeah. Ohh candy shops at #3 now. Yes, so it's. 

OK. Oh. 

Yeah, I think it could have been spelt, yeah, differently to just emphasise. 

And I don't. 

The ohh that she was. Going for in this. 

Well, they're on a winner. It's in the top five. So what do I know? 

This situation, the third single from her album Goodies and the first one that doesn't really sound like it's got a theramin in it. It's very different from goodies and 1 two step. 

Yes. Ohh, right. See oh oh. 

Veteran ludicrous. It's actually a song about her hometown of Atlanta, GA. Highlighting the city's culture and lifestyle, it was filmed in and around Georgia. I think some of the locals didn't really appreciate it. They felt it was showing the seedier side. 

Was it? So they're like, oh, this is, this is all about your like Georgia. This is a homage to your hometown and you called it. Ohh. 

My hometown. Oh. Maybe that's. Why they're upset? 

Again, like that's what I say when I drive past something dead in the middle of the road. Ohh, that's what you called it. 

Oh. 

Peaked at #2 on the US billboard Hot 100, number two on the Billboard Hot R&B and hip Hop Songs chart #4 in the UK #5 in New Zealand, #7 in Australia, Germany and Ireland. It won the Choice music make out song at the 2005 team. 

Oh. 

Hmm. Hmm. 

I was. 

Choice Awards. 

Now someone makes out with you, and then they pull back and they go. Ohh. 

Oh. 

I'm not sure how you're supposed to take. That yeah yeah. Ohh. Maybe there's like a follow up. 

Hmm. 

Potentially the beats for Ohm was originally intended for Janet Jackson Ohhh was created with Janet in mind, but somehow Sierra ended up with it. Mm-hmm. Ludacris's verse is so good at the time. A lot of critics said it actually should have been Luda feat. 

Hmm. 

Sierra, not the other way around, cause Luna was really the the standouts in in the track. 

Ohh. 

Cool. 

It became a go to for dance crews and it's. 

Hmm. Same dude. The follow up? Yeah. Ohh. I'm really conscious of the fact that I'm doing that a lot during this segment freaking me out. 

One of the most quoted. It's also one of the most quoted Sierra tracks in memes and Tik toks. 

See is it though? Or are people just yelling? Ohh. 

A Penguin, it's. 

Going. 

I'm sorry that's you've trademarked Sierra Song there, right? No, they're saying I think that lines out of the song have been appearing in memes. I think there's a line in. There, that says. 

Oh. 

They say ladies love it when you're living fast. That's been on the TikTok. Apparently I don't know. I'm not on the TikTok, Tik toks too much for me. 

Is that right? OK, good. Alright, let's go to. Alright. That's like the third part of the trilogy. Ohh hmm. Alright. 

Oh. Got an album release? Let's move on the 3rd of May 2005. Fall Out Boys debut album from under the. Cork Tree is released. 

I like this album. I you know what? It's a guilty pleasure. I quite like fall out. Boy. Say quite like them. Guilty pleasure. 

Particularly this album. 

There's nothing about them when I will look at them on the the video clips that appeal to me, but their tunes are very not really a fan of the image the but no. But the the catchy poppiness of the songs and the Rockiness appealed to me like this one. Like dance dance. It's a great tune. 

Really, you don't like the guy liner? Fringe sideswept. Black nail Polish. 

It's so emo. 

That is a good song on the Sing style. 

Pass me my guideline up. 

And your black nail Polish? Yep, the album title is actually a nod to the story about Ferdinand the bull, the bull who prefers smelling flowers to fighting. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Children's a. That smells of flowers. Yes. And so he gets, he gets bit on the **** by the bee and then he charges. 

So it's true. True emo fashion fallout boys, or as a metaphor for not fitting into the expectations of. Others. Me. Oh my, I weep. 

Right. 

So is that the? That's the album. 

I think that's the album name. 

That's the album from under the Cork Tree, right? Because dance dance isn't about Ferdinand. So it's like, no, that's. 

Yeah. Or maybe one of the. Yeah, I think so. No, I don't. 

A dance that's. 

Don't think sugar. We're going down is about. My third man. Neither. No, no. 

I sincerely hope nice that's getting a bit. You know what goes on in the barnyard, stays in the barnyard. Hmm. 

One of the things about Fall Out Boy and and and a few of those emo bands of the time, they really did love these really long drawn out titles, whether it was for albums or song titles. 

Right. 

Yes, and fall out. Boy wouldn't notorious for very long. Now dance Dance is is a bad example. But they were notorious. 

Not so. 

For long song. 

Titles and long song titles because we're talking emo era song titles that read like a Myspace bio or maybe do you remember aim? It wasn't massive here in Australia, but I've seen a lot of it over in the states, which was the America online instant messenger and you could put. 

Yes. Yeah. 

His status in there, so a lot of a lot of Fall Out Boy Song titles either ended up as the message or a lot of people had messages that were. 

Yes. Right. 

Very emo esque so. 

But it's usually. 

Like a sentence with a qualifying sentence in brackets, yes. 

Yes. And mix of upper and lower case and things like that and numbers instead of less. 

PM. 

Infuriating. 

So I wanna play a little. 

Game with you, OK? 

Fall Out Boy Song title or aim away. Message. Are you ready? 

Right. OK. Yeah. I wanna put some like some some game show style. What's piper? 

Are we in church? Ohh, that's the Fallout Boy song, isn't it? 

OK, so now we've established our little background game show music. 

OK, alright. Is this a Fall Out Boy song title or aim away message you said forever brackets. I guess that meant until your sidekick ran out of battery. 

OK. Fall Out Boy message, Fallout Boy message Fallout Boy song. 

Really, that was an aim away message and these are legit aim away messages from back. In the day, what? Was it again you said forever brackets. I guess that meant until your sidekick ran. Out of battery. 

Oh. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Next one. 

OK, Fall Out Boy song title or aim away message. If I'm not back in five. Minutes dot dot dot wait longer. 

Fall Out Boy song. 

Oh really? Also an AIM away message. Well, that makes sense. There's an away message. If I'm not back in 5 minutes. Wait longer. Yeah, OK, OK. Fall out, boy. Song title, aim away. Message. Get busy living or get busy dying brackets do your part to save the scene and stop going to shows. 

Oh. 

Ohh my gosh. Aim away message. Fall Out Boy. 

Song. That's a full out Boy song. 

God, I'm 0 for three. It's ridiculous. 

Alright. Concentrate note to self colon, I miss you terribly. Full stop. This is what I call a tragedy. 

OK. Aim away message. 

Yes. 

I got the. 

Separate thing anyway. Ohh that's alright yeah. 

Next one. Yep, I've got a dark alley and a bad idea that says you should shut your mouth brackets. Summer song. 

If that's an aim away message, I'm gonna put that person on a watch list. So I'm gonna say a Fall Out Boy song. 

Correct. Yeah. 

Wow, that was really difficult. 

Alright, you ready? 

Oh, I got another one. I don't know if I'm ready for another one, alright. 

I'm I'm not OK. 

Fall Out Boy song. No, that's in My Chemical Romance song. You're. That's ridiculous. Stop trying to catch me out. And being myself, I gave myself both for that one, alright. 

Alright, Fall Out Boy Song title, aim away. Message sending postcards from a plane crash brackets. Wish you were here. 

Aim away message. 

Bulls. 

Really, that is a Fall Out Boy song title. 

Unbelievable. 

Alright, one more. 

Just that's it. I've had enough. Yeah. You're better end on a high note here. 

One more, OK. A little less. 16 candles, a little more touch me. 

I'm away. Message. OK. Like I said, I like him. I clearly don't. Like him that. Much ohh that ended abruptly, so I guess this segment's over. That's got legs. That segment was great, that had everything except for a really good contestant. 

Maybe we could play it again. 

Ah yeah. 

Sure. We'll talk about another emo band that. 

OK, maybe I'll ask the questions that was. 

Has also ridiculously long some titles. You didn't do very well. Yeah, I would have thought you'd be better at that. 

Powerful. No. Well, I think it actually speaks to my credibility that I didn't. I'm not mad about it. Are you? 

Alright, Mommy, I'll give you one more. So mad right now, exclamation mark. Don't I am me. 

That's definitely an aim away. That's good job. That was a charity. 

There you go, you got one. 

Point. 

Let's go to the entertainment portion of the podcast. 

Sure. 

The box office, the number one film in the box office in the USA, is The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. 

Ah. 

Standard repository for all knowledge and wisdom in the universe is called The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. And it has this to say about movie trailers. Movie trailers are designed to give you an idea of the film in question in a very short space of time. Typically they begin with the introduction of a main character. Who will very shortly have. Something so utterly fantastic to him. That someone just had to make a movie about him. 

Scheduled for demolition. 

Often this section. By the words in a world. But sometimes not. Trailers also normally employ. 

A deep voice that sounds like a 7 foot tall man who has been smoking cigarettes since childhood. 

The goal is to create a piece of advertising that's original and excessive. 

Far out. 

Intelligent and provocative, in other words, lots of things blowing up. Occasionally interrupted by a girl in a bikini. 

That does absolutely nothing for me. 

What a great, great trailer narrated by Stephen Fry, who was the narrator in the film as well. I love this movie. 

I remember you loved. 

This movie, yes. 

So much fun and I love the books as well by Douglas Adams. They were awesome. Earth is destroyed to make way for a a hyperspace bypass. And Arthur Dent, the whinging Pom, is rescued by his alien friend of Ford prefect. I don't think he realised he was an alien until the world was about to end and they hitchhiked their way through the Galaxy, where they come across paranoid androids and bureaucratic aliens and interplanetary romance. And the answer to life, the universe and everything else. That, and anyone who's gotten that far would know that it's 42 and it's it's absurd, it's clever, and it's great British comedy, really great. Martin Freeman's in there as Arthur. Then before he was Bilbo Baggins. And after he was in. The office most def is is Ford prefect. The alien friend Sam Rockwell. Zaphod beeblebrox. The two headed space, Himbo and Zoe Deschanel as trillion. The other other human that survives, Alan Rickman, the brilliant Alan Rickman, is the voice of Marvin, the Paranoid Android who you heard at the end of that. Stephen Fry, as I said before, the book narrator and it had Bill Nye, John Malkovich, Helen Mirren, his deep thought in there. It was really great. And I love that they had Stephen Fried to narrate the. Guy, he's just the perfect narrator for that. He also does the narration for a video game called Little Big Planet on the. 

Yeah, it's really good, wasn't it? 

PlayStation, which is wonderful. 

Yeah, and and it's very similar, isn't it? The style in. Yeah. 

He's it is very similar and he's just got that quirky perfect for the guide and and Rickman as well. Just excellent 50 million dollars, $50 million is how much it cost and they made 104 worldwide. So it was a great film and it endures. Now it's got a very cult following I. 

Yeah. 

Did really well. That was the budget, yeah. 

Yes. 

Love it. 

And it was #1 as well here. 

Moment. 

Australia this week 20 minutes ago. 

Of course it was. I mean, I think. 

Do we get that? 

Lull. You know, it's like around the Easter holidays, depending on what time of year it is, where it's like, oh, they need to put something out that we need to go into. Yeah. Well, generally like, I mean, look at it was this year in Minecraft. 

For school holidays. You gotta say something. I loved that. 

Really I wanted to blow my brains out after. No, I didn't understand any of that stuff. 

You didn't like it? I loved it. I love Jason Momoa. I loved. His jacket. I want that jacket. 

In that film I just I well look, I I'll say this, I think it's I think it's I think I definitely saw some of Jason Momoa's best work in that film. That's what I'll say. 

He was so funny and I still love Jack Black. About that, it was great. It was great, probably. 

Sure, it's not, you're not. 

As good as Hitchhiker's Guide Galaxy, you're not. 

No. 

As good as the 2005 Logie Awards? 

I mean, could anything top the 2005 TV Week Logie Awards? 

Ohh no, we got the the blue or the black Pyro and we've crossed the boxes and we've gone down to the post office and. 

Filled out your form. 

The $0.32 stamp on it and sent it in to win our white goods. And here it is, the night of nights. A co-host. It was a trio Co hosting that was a new. 

Hmm. 

Yes. At the Crown in Melbourne. 

Thing. 

Oh really? 

Eddie McGuire, Andrew O'Keefe, Ohh Gosh and Rove McManus. 

Ohh my God. That's like the seventh level of Australian television hell, they're the gatekeepers. 

Yes and yes, and Fast forward to now and a couple of them probably don't really talk about much, do we? It was the first. 

Yeah, for all your sins, you're gonna be enduring. You know what we don't do? 

Time they had. Multiple hosts so. They were sharing the load. It was a big night for. Rose. Yeah, he won three awards, most popular light entertainment or comedy. 

Yeah. 

Programme for both live Silver Logie for most popular TV presenter and Gold Logie for most popular personality on Australian Television. I think it was like the the third. Gold. Logie that you've won. 

Maybe, I mean, you know, to be quite critical of Rove, but at least he was bringing some sort of variety and and entertainment into TV. That wasn't reality or anything like that. I I think I I thought it was OK here, annoying me a little bit, but having said that, like we interviewed him. 

They won them for a few years. I loved Rove life. I I really liked that show. When? On. 

I thought it was. 

Great. Did he? 

A couple of times I. 

Think yes, he was lovely, lovely guy, yeah. 

That's really generous with his time and a really nice guy. I think he was the real deal. But. But you know, this is. This we're at a bit of a turning point in television here, not quite here, but this things are still going OK. I mean syndication has happened a lot of those regional TV stations are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. You were in the business at the time. So you would have been very familiar with that. And as reality TV sort of takes off the things. 

Hmm. 

Like scripted drama? And stuff that like, you know, has writers and directors and crew on and all of that sort of stuff are starting to really fall by the wayside. 

And I think a lot of the rules kind of changed over time as well, like your local content rules were shifting. So local content was what kind of really saved a lot of Australian jobs, but also helped keep the, you know, like some of those really good Australian dramas going because you had to have a certain percentage. Of. Of local content and then a lot of those laws changed and it could be at any time of day. And yeah, you had a lot of the the the ownership laws changing as well. So you had. Certain media groups buying up a lot of the regional stations, so you lost a lot of that local. Yeah, that local news content. Yeah, children's TV programming. 

Yeah, especially children's TV programme, right? 

And then news. Yeah, yeah. And then you would start to get, but not just that when you look at things like like voiceovers, for example, when the major networks start taking over the regional ones. 

Yeah. 

They lose their regional branding, so things like voice over. So I used to do voiceovers for prime as it was then, but now that it's Prime 7, they can use the channel 7 voiceovers. 

Yeah, yeah. And even your commercials like they're getting stripped and sent up to a hub. They're just getting all reported out of one hub and then and then sent out. So you lose big, big arms of your production thing. And the industry gets a lot smaller. 

You're not producing them locally. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. 

I think signs of budget cuts would have been the technical glitch that happened when channel 9 lost their signal just minutes before. Yes, just before they announced that they got it back up to see Rove as the recipient. 

Ohh, the gold Logie. Ohh my gosh. That's that, would it? Imagine being the person behind the scenes. That stuffed something. 

And the winner is. 

Didn't plug something in. 

Didn't get the police stand by saying Chris Hemsworth was in there. He was the most popular new male talent for his role in. 

Imagine Max. Yeah. So this all these big dots? Ohh. 

Home and away. Yeah, yeah, neighbours got inducted into the Hall of Fame. 

Ah yes. 

Before, and yeah, Mcleod's daughters won best drama series, so TV drama was still alive and well. That's what I mean. Well, you know, how are people gonna know about safety around silos if if not for Mcleod's daughters when that pivotal moment when Tess fell in the silo? 

You loved Mcleod's daughters. 

Cassie, you're right. 

I'm OK. 

Nothing broken and maybe a few weevils. Sure. 

Silly me, sorry about this guys. We are matic. Don't move. 

Yeah, don't move cause you know what happens. Then she moves and she starts to sink in it like quicksand. Yes, very dangerous. 

Like cause all the brain you have literally been talking about tests falling into. Silo, since we've been together 20 years, you've been discussing passing the silo. I don't think I've ever even. 

Yes, 20 years. Yeah, it was a big deal, mate. It was a big deal. 

Seen that episode? 

I I haven't seen it either, but I've I've managed to from the amount of promotion that it received on channel 9 at the time when tests did fall into the silo. 

You've been talking about it. It's a big moment in Australian TV. That, and the blue heeler sky, remember when he finally won Logie and everyone. 

I mean it was. Gripping, there's a lot of tension. John wood, yeah. 

I think it was a sympathy just can't. 

People went berserk. People went berserk. Yeah. 

We all, we're all so. Happy for him, weren't we? 

There should have been a huge like superhero mash up where like maybe he. 

That was a big moment. Came along and saved her, pulled her out of the silo. 

Safe test from the silo. Yeah, you know. Ohh. Sorry. A bit of downsizing. So we're just gonna merge Blue Heelers and Mcleod's daughters, and we might bring a couple of other shows into the mix and just smoosh them all together. 

Great crossover. Ohh healers. Perfect. Beck Cartwright. What I don't know. Bring her in from home and away. 

She could dance. Dance. We'll do a combination of dancing with the stars with the. 

Dancing in the silos. 

Actual drama as well. So they could you could do mcleods daughters on ice. 

Let's not let's not think too much. 

Which has become an increasing problem in country towns as well. So you know, I'm not saying there's an epidemic at this stage. I don't believe everything that I see on today tonight, but just, you know, forewarned this. 

Don't don't fear monger. Don't fear ****. 

Forum let's go. To American soap operas before we, the wheels really come off. Ohh this is. Are we seriously gonna talk about this show? 

Ohh. OK, I think our nanners I this was a big moment. This was a big moment for our nanners. I think our collective nanners across Australia lost their on the 1st of May 2005. Yeah, because Taylor Hayes portrayed by Hunter Tylo, she's been dead since 2002. 

Was it though? 

For nanas, OK yeah. 

Hmm. 

Wait a minute. No, she pops back. Up on fold and the beautiful. I'm like, what? The bodies? Yes. Hmm. Remember, Taylor died. 

I I did not really. 

Taylor died in 2002, and we mourned. 

Like I've been in the house, I've been in the house. 

Her. We were very upset. I don't know who everyone is on the bold and beautiful from the days that I was sick because I'd get taken to my grandmother's. Yeah, when I was sick at. School and she'd give me a a tomato flavoured continental cup of soup or cream of chicken, maybe cream of chicken. If I could handle something a bit creamy we'd watch bold and the. 

Right. 

Yeah, yeah. 

Beautiful. 

You let that tomato soup go cold. You've got gazpacho. I'm just saying. Ohh. I'd never took it in. I was gonna say like it's. I've been in the house. 

Like the tomato one. You did your grandma. Your grandma did. 

I've been in the house when the bold and the beautiful has been on. Yeah, I have never. I think I've never physically been incapable of comprehending or understanding anything that goes on in that show. 

You don't know. I don't. Think Nanas did either, but they knew. 

I don't know. All I know is there was a dude with a really striking jawline called Ridge, and then there was some other chick with really big lips. 

That she was dead. They knew that she was dead. Ohh Ridge. Ohh God Ridge. Was hope on that one was that hope, I think Hope was on that she might have. 

I don't know. 

Been young and the. Restless. 

That sounds like a days of our lives. 

But she was she was well, she was. 

Name if I'm being honest. 

In a RIP. Or something in a RIP? No, she was in. A river. And she was like. 

Really. 

Drowning and my dad walks in. He goes. 

Yeah. 

Don't worry, there's still hope. And that was like my dad's big joke for about 5. 

That's a. 

Years. There's still there's. 

That's a good dad joke. Hi. That is a solid dad joke. 

Still hope I think she died and came back as well. I think that was a popular thing. But anyway, so Hunter Tyler, 1st of May 2005. 

Did she? So. OK. Right. Hunter Tylo plays. Who? Taylor on the bold and the beautiful. I'm alive. Still. Is this like when Harold walked back onto Ramsey Street? 

Surprised I'm not actually dead. I have been held. I have been held captive since 2002 by Prince Omar. Yeah. 

Oh. 

Prince Omar held her captive. 

She's a prisoner of a Prince of all things. How exotic and kind of scary. 

Of a Prince. It was kept under. Wraps her return, her surprise return. No one on the show knew right until right up till filming because they didn't want it leaked. They didn't want to leak, and she apparently wore a wig and disguise on the set so no one knew. 

Ohh so they could capture the genuine reaction. 

Hmm. 

Is that like the whole? 

She was coming back. 

Like, you know, like Clark Kent, Superman puts glasses on and he's Clark Kent. And they're like, ohh, where did Superman go? 

Maybe glasses in a? Week. I'm picturing a big trench coat as. Well, feel like. 

A trench coat. 

I want to see. 

A flasher? No. 

Not a flash. 

Ohh we there's a strange lady walking around the bold and the beautiful sets with the trench coat and a big wig on. 

She was very happy because I think when she left in 2002, she was starting to get a bit poopy. She didn't like where Tyler's character was heading or Taylor. No, she's ohh Taylor. Doctor Taylor Hayes. She didn't like where she was headed. 

Doing like. If you're, if you're on one. Of those shows, if if you're. If you're on the bold and the beautiful, or do you as and you're in a struggling. Yeah. Well, I guess it's like you've got a regular gig, you've got some employment and you're like. 

You would like. To have some control over your character. Should have some input in your character. 

I don't like where this character this character is going, yeah. 

Don't like where she's going? Well, she liked it. She liked Prince Omar. She was happy about that. 

She liked the kidnapping angle. 

And it could. They delved into her struggles with depression and alcoholism. When she returned. She's very enthusiastic saying that a more vulnerable and flawed tailor made the character feel more real. Lots of people were thrilled to see her back, but lots of Nanas were also very upset if they'd mourned her. They'd mourned in 2002. They, you know, shed a few tears for her. It was an emotional moment. 

They're shocked. Right. We've only just come to terms with the fact that. She's gone. 

And then come. 

And she comes back. Stop playing with. My heart. Yes. Well, do you know what I do remember about the bold and the beautiful? Shout out to our shout, no shout out to our sister-in-law, Nicky. Remember, she had the fish tank and and she had all the fish that were named after characters of the bowl of the Beautiful. Then I think she got a fish. 

But playing games for my heart. So you doing right? Ohh. 

You're. 

That wasn't. 

Yes. 

Probably supposed to mix with the other fish. I think it was Ridge she called it Ridge and it ate all. The other fish in the tank did it eat. Yes, that's the way to end the season on the cliffhanger, isn't it? 

Hi, Taylor Hayes. 

Ohh yeah, I'd much rather. I mean, I don't know what's more fun. 

Hmm, well, imagine a. 

Probably on par. 

Bold and beautiful video game what would? 

Do. 

You. What would you do? There'd be romance. You'd spend a lot of time developing your character, being the beautiful hair on it and. 

It's spinning too much time. Looking looking. Looking towards or through the camera at something out the window while the other people are talking behind you. 

Ah. 

With like a tear running down your cheek, yeah. 

I don't, I don't think a bold and the beautiful dance. Bold and beautiful fish tank game would be good. You just gotta avoid not getting eaten by. 

That'd be romance. 

Be ruled romance. 

But. 

Would be. Great. But that's that's not what we're talking about now we're talking about motor racing, motorsport, even Forza Motorsport, released on the Xbox on the 3rd of May. Realistic driving simulation. I think this is sort of in competition with Gran Turismo at this stage. It's their answer for it. 

Not what was released, no. Yes. 

Hmm. 

Buy it. Build it into it, then Intune it more. 

Drive it. Then you drive it harder. 

Until it's no longer a machine, it's you. 

They make car ownership sound so exotic, don't they? It's exciting. 

Wow. Do it's nothing like that. It's like. Ohh rego's. Due third party insurance. God, that's gone up hasn't. 

Yeah. 

It. Yeah, it's like you. 

Buy. It and lose $20,000 as soon as you drive it off the lot. 

Now some ****** hit my car and it's been repaired, but it's never the same again. 

Yeah, you buy it, you get financed for it, you insure it, you put fuel in it, you replace the tyres, you get it serviced regularly, you are broke. That's what happened. 

Now it's making an odd noise and I don't know where that noise is coming. 

Yes. 

From I'll just turn the stereo up. 

Exactly. 

Yes. Nothing like real life. Is it real? True to life driving experience? 

Not not at all. Well, we just said it wasn't, so yeah. 

Ah. 

Licenced licenced vehicles from manufacturers such as Ferrari, Honda and Audi, you could race everything from everyday cars to high performance prototypes. That was interesting. 

Hmm. Yeah, it's definitely their answer to Gran Turismo. 

You could compete on lots of different tracks. Real world circuits and Laguna Seca, as well as fictional tracks like inspired by in stroke. 

Yeah, Nurburgring, that's always a fun one, yes. Yes. I think Bathurst ends up there at some stage, but just not at the moment. I think Mount Panorama mount panorama's. 

No rainbow roads. 

And Gran Turismo. And that was very exciting, but you had to work really hard to unlock it, which really ****** me off. Yeah, cuz I'm not. I'm not a driving game guy. Really. I'm more of a. 

That's. 

That's. Even. 

That's not really an exciting track to race on, isn't it? Just goes around. 

Well, it's got some hair pins and some nice corners and. 

We drove in the. 

It's got the dipper. 

Drago and it was nothing to really go crazy about, farrago. 

Funny going through is fine. You have to say but, but for me it's like I'm more of a sunbay driving simulator sort of guy. So I'm like, Oh yeah, let's get out there and have a look around. Oh, look, they got sheep over in that paddock and ohh look at that signage on the side of the road. Cars be overtaking me, left, right, etcetera. 

Beeping you. 

Yeah. 

Yes, I think the customization was something that everybody loved because you could do whatever you liked lots of up to 100 layers per car section. So you could change colours and designs and customise and. 

Was it? 

Until you couldn't see, this is a thing that customisation all goes really well until you take it online, right, and then you start doing the multiplayer online thing. It's not even that it costs money. It's, you know, you know, within 15 minutes of mixing in an online community where a logo. 

Hmm. 

Bennett has smiling. 

A logo or a sticker on a car or some kind of graphic design thing happens, you know, within the first. What did I say before? 15-5 minutes. Two seconds. I'll give you 2 seconds. Somebody is gonna put it up there. That's how you know you're online. 

Hmm. 

I know I'm online because it's been 2 minutes and I've seen it, yeah. 

There's a deep. 

There's a. 

The game sold over 100,000 copies in North America. That's a lot of during its release month. Gold Sales award in the UK for surpassing 200,000 units in 2005. Cars included the 1992 Ford Escort. There was a 2003 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari Toyota Supra from 95. 2004 Dodge Viper I would have liked to have seen the Hyundai Excel I would have put a turbo and a big spoiler on it. 

Would you? 

Some. Tribal livery fanged it around the. 

I've noticed. 

Bathe the faux Bathurst track. 

Fascist Bathurst. I've noticed that I cannot fathom. To this I've noticed that the Italian cars all have very like phallic surnames like. 

Testarossa or. 

Contact. You know what? I'm. Saying yes. Hmm, there's what's the? And then there's like the. 

Excel. So these days. 

The Rimac, which is a bit grossing. Get salmonella from that, yes. 

These days, the Mac is a car of choice. The 2023 Nissan Z. Yeah, there is the 2019 Porsche 9/11 great Cadillac Ferrari. Still no, still no hyundais. Yeah, I was comparing 2005 with the the latest versions to see what what the car difference was. Yeah. 

Is it? 

Hmm. 

All in the in the latest version. Alright. Yeah, OK. 

So yeah, it's still out there. They're still bringing out new versions. 

I I imagine that the 2005 cars, you know, they're just sort of sitting on the used lot at the. 

People love it. 

Moment. 

Ohh. 

Pick them up for a song. I picked up this 2004 Dodge Viper SRT for like. Two grands only got 400,000 K's on it and it's been crashed about 8000 times in Forza. Ohh, let's pull up a I don't know, Pew. At the bookshop. There'd probably be a little bell on the door. As you're going tingling. Umm yeah would be. Yeah. Dust. Ohh, I think I'm OK. Thought I was gonna sneeze then. There's a lot. 

Put that little ping in your nose. Like, look at the light. Look at the sun. Make it come out. I don't know, OK? 

Yeah, yeah. Here it cut. Nah, it's gone. It's back. It's gone. I don't know what's going on. No, it's not happening. Let's do books. 

Yes, New York time. Times bestseller this week in 2005 on the. 

Yes. 

Fiction. This is a fiction rules. 

It's fiction, yes. 

True believer by Nicholas Sparks. 

Right. That is it. What sort of fiction are we talking about? Is it a scary thing? Is it a? 

Is it a mystery? 

I wanna say is it a mystery? 

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I think there. 

There's there's cemeteries. 

Might be a ghost. I think there's a ghost. 

OK. 

That sounds like a ghost. Yes. Good. Ohh, perfect. 

Then I'm going with you. This is called. It's in the fog by Darren Curtis. Music. This actually sounds like my stomach after I have too much guzmans. That's exactly what it does all night. Right through the night. And it's like, and then suddenly it'll be like. Alright, I've gotta. Get on, yeah. OK, you ready for? This. 

I am guy. 

Jeremy marsh. She's the ultimate New Yorker. Handsome. Always dressed in black and part of the media elite. An expert on debunking the supernatural with a regular column in Scientific American he's just made his first appearance on National TV, where he receives a letter from the tiny town. Of Boone Creek. North Carolina about ghostly lights. There we go. It works that appear in a legend Shrouded cemetery. The legend Shrouded cemetery. Goodnight legend. How's it going? Ohh, he's a legend. He's buried up there. Yep. So he's gotta go. He can't resist the investigation here. In this tightly knit community. Lexie Darnell runs the town's library just as her mother did before the accident. 

Hmm. Wow. 

That left Lexie, an orphan, sad. Disappointed by past relationships, including one that lured or away from home. Why is she worried about being lured away from home if she's an orphan anyway? She's sure of one thing. Her future is in Boone Creek. That's where her future lies. Close to her grandmother and all the other people. He loves J. Tommy expects to spend a quick week in the sticks before speeding back to the city, but from the moment he sets eyes on Lexie, he is intrigued and attracted to this beautiful woman who speaks with a soft, droll and confounding honesty. See, that was soft and confounding. I don't know if it was honest and Lexie, while hesitating to trust this outsider. Finds herself thinking of. More than she cares to admit. Now I don't know why I sounded like George Bush in that part, but anyway, now if they are to be together, Jeremy Marsh must make a difficult choice. Return to the life he knows, debunking ghost ghosts, myths and, well, goth myth and all those other things. Now I turned into Mike Tyson, something he's never done before. Or take a leap of faith with Lexie. It's a story about taking. See now this is the end. Sounds like a ROM com because there is a story about taking chances and following your heart. True believer will make you too believe in the miracle of love which that music does not suit that at all. But anyway, oh, there it is in all its glory. 

OK, yes. What did the people? Think though, that's that's the question. What? 

That is the most important thing. 

Do our good readers over it reads have. 

Good read. I see what you did there. It's good. 

To say about. True believer by. Reese Ohh, Kate. Fisherman one star. 

Oh. 

Hmm. 

There is a sequel to this one, but barring an unexpected plot twist involving mushrooms and *******, it may be a while before I pick it up. Sure, Kate fisherman. 

OK. 

Really. Because mushrooms and ******* not super heavy. So you know. And I don't think that's the correct terminology as well. It's not nice. Yeah. 

No, no fisherman. I think he did write this review some time ago. 

But still umm yes. 

Cape fisherman, I think that's an alias, Libby. Libby gives it one star. Ready. Here it is. It's a two word review literal. 

Or a job. 

From Libby didn't like it, didn't like it at all. 

Thanks Libby. 

Amber one star. 

I I disagree with the whole literal thing, because that would be it'd be it'd be really hard to turn the pages increasingly difficult to slide a bookmark in there if it was literal. What are you up to? Ohh, the carrots. 

If it was literal ****. Yes, it's not. It's not measuring, yes. 

I don't know. Sorry, yes. 

Piece of cool. Amber one star, Jeremy, was far too Danny Zuko for me. I could just couldn't get. His charm at all? Hmm. But. 

Ohh. 

Tell me more. Tell me more. 

But in all caps, yeah, I did make a tomato sauce with just onion and butter. Like Lexie, that's a killer combination. Hated the book, but loved the. Recipes came here for the recipes fantastic tomato sauce. 

Not much, not much for a fiction novel. But as far as cookbooks go, pretty. Great. Well, it literally try and make a Pavlova out of that. Crystal sieben, nola. C Bonola Crystal seibon Nola gives it one star hey smart novel you'd find in the grocery store checkout aisle, but without the sex. Well then, how is it a? How is it a smart model without settings? 

Was. Smart novel. Sex. What would happen? 

Nothing, OK. 

Really. Maybe that's what she's getting at. 

More but. 

That's not there. There's there would. Have been better ways to say it. 

Lots of illusions to it. Lots of sexual tension with no actual. 

Well, it was romance wasn't OK, Rachel Zwicker, one star right now, I am drinking Luke warm water and eating salt free saltine crackers while watching the grass grow. My life is more exciting than this. 

I think it's best we move on to the. Next review. 

Uh-huh. 

Book. 

Wow. 

Salt free saltine crackers, wouldn't that? 

Well, with these teens, the Staten team. 

Make them tea crackers or even no even crackers. 

Yes, a bit needing means. 

There was no salt. 

Hate an A. Rachel, now with less salt. Elaine hoffer. That sounds like a activity. She gave it five stars. She liked it. She loved it. In fact, Elaine Hoffer did, and. And you know, I trust anyone with the surname like Hoffer. I really like Nicholas Sparks because he writes a good story. 

You are sucks. Mountain, yeah. 

With no swear words or explicit scenes in it. That's perfect. 

And Elaine had one comment on her review. She had a commenter, Deborah Deborah commented on Elaine's. 

Really. 

You. I'm so glad you found an author you like so much, mum. 

Ohh Deborah Hoffer. Tommy. 

She's commented on Mum's review. Normally it's the parents that comment on the kids Facebook posts, but she's commented on Mum's review on Goodreads. 

That's nice, Deborah. Thanks. Good little affirmations from amongst the Hoffer family. Yeah. I wonder if it's like, and if you submit this review or comment on some reviews on good reads we'll give. 

I think that's lovely. Thanks, ****. 

You a special offer? We are at the end. Thank goodness that's our special offer. It's the hatches, matches and dispatches segment. And we didn't have a lot to ride home about, so we just thought we'd do a celebrity who was doing pretty well in 2000, I might say, who is having a birthday on the 2nd of May, they're turning 51 this year, they said this. 

Fire the nuclear weapons. 

Now if you said and I know you would think that voice is familiar one more time. 

Fire the nuclear weapons. 

Yes. 

If you said Matt Berry. You would be. Correct. Matt Berry, the actor born in 1974, a comedian, musician, a writer known for his distinctive baritone voice, where he says. 

By other nuclear. 

Weapons. Unique comedic style. So in the early 2000s you might remember him from Dark Place. Mm-hmm. Or perhaps the mighty booth. 

The mighty boost, yes, the 4th. 

He was also in monkey trousers, the sketch comedy series The British Comedy Series and and he also released an album called Opium. He's a bit of a singer, actually, and he's got another. This is a song he did called Sky High. He's he's. Look, it's a good thing he's good at acting cause. 

No one looks. 

Yeah, he clearly has a secret double life where he writes music for people who are stuck in the 60s and still enjoy. Taking acid. 

He's had several high profile roles. More recently, he was Laszlo Cravens, worth in the FX series. What we do in the. 

Yes. 

Shadows. 

That's a great a very, very funny show. 

With a flamboyant vampire. 

Yes. 

He's lent his voice, so he's also a voice actor, so he's lent his voice to the character schlub in Crapp populist. 

Yes. 

He also appeared more recently last week. In fact, we saw it the Minecraft movie. 

Very briefly, and he was the. 

At. End he was. 

A villager? Yes, he was the villager. Where once the villager could talk or spoiler alert, and also he was the voice of the Beaver. In the wild. Robot. Yes, who's in that? But my my favourite role of his is of there. There was this, this, this show he did. 

Ah, ah. 

Called Toast of London and it was just delightful and it was a bit off the wall and it was a bit obscure and it was. He was the central character. He was a an actor of a like of a theatre actor named Stephen Toast, who also had a career as a voice over artists. And this is one of my favourite scenes. 

Yes. 

Hmm. 

His in the in the voice over. 

Booth. Five other nuclear. Weapons. 

Steven, that was good. But you think you give it another try this time saying a less alarming way. 

Less alarming, I've just given the order to fire the nuclear weapons. I've just unleashed Armageddon. 

Yes, but the feeling here is that you can do it in a way which is a little less dramatic. It's just a little bit over top at the moment. Have fun with it. 

Fire the nuclear weapons. 

That was a little bit too far the other way a. Bit too jolly, you know when you. Just try a few more times. 

Fire the Neil Clear weapons, fire the nuclear weapons, fire the nuclear weapons. Fire the nuclear weapons, fire their nuclear weapons. 

Do you want to move on to the next one, Stephen, we. Can come back to. 

That later abandon the vessel immediately. 

Yeah. And we're gonna abandon this vessel immediately as well. Happy birthday to Matt Berry. That is the end of the show. Thank you very much for listening in yet again. You can find us on the socials. You know what to do t -? 20 Podcast on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. You can find us on all of those platforms. Slide into our DM, send us your booms or whatever you want to do and just continue the conversation. We post stuff there. 

Yes. 

Full. Thank you very much. Mel, what's happening next? 

Week next week we have the publication that kind of paved the way for things like BuzzFeed and listicles and and all that jazz. 

Listicles. It sounds like a body. Part. 

Love a love a listicle? 

Yeah, mine hurt. Sorry. What? 

There was an assassination attempt on George W. 

Oh. 

Really. 

A new boss of Manchester United Ohh $0.50 a new 50 Cent song AH and a wrestler turns rapper. 

Well, have you? Ohh geez, I wonder who that could be. Mm-hmm. I can't see it. We'll see you next week. Thanks very much. We love you. Bye. 

No idea. 

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