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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Terror on the Tube: London’s 7/7 Attacks Remembered
Rewind to 3 July 2005 to 9 July 2005 and buckle in, because the chaos this week is coming at you from space, underground, and straight out of the Hot 97 parking lot.
💥 NASA punches a comet. Because smashing things is how science happens. Deep Impact lived up to the movie name as NASA slammed a probe into Comet Tempel 1 at 22,800 mph to see what was hiding beneath. Spoiler: space dust, ice, organic gunk, and some existential dread about how small we are.
💔 London under attack. The world stood still as four coordinated bombings hit London’s transport system during peak hour, killing 52 people. The 7/7 attacks changed the conversation on homegrown extremism, radicalisation, and how vulnerable cities really are.
🎧 Lil’ Kim keeps it real… illegally. The Queen Bee is sentenced to prison for lying to a grand jury about a shootout outside Hot 97. Turns out the “no snitching” rule doesn’t hold up so well under federal cross-examination.
🎾 Federer serves history. Roger Federer becomes the third man in the Open Era to win three consecutive Wimbledon titles, casually dismantling Andy Roddick in the process. It’s precision, it’s footwork, it’s Swiss efficiency at its finest.
🚀 Missy Elliott changes the recipe. The Cookbook drops, blending hip hop, dance, R&B, and Missy’s signature weirdness. “Lose Control” goes off, the album gets a Grammy, and Missy proves she’s still 10 steps ahead.
👽 War of the Worlds invades the box office. Tom Cruise runs from aliens, Dakota Fanning screams, and we all remember Spielberg knows how to ruin a perfectly good New Jersey weekend.
📚 Dracula, but make it unnecessarily long. The Historian drops, promising epic gothic intrigue but mostly delivering travel descriptions, existential crises, and purple hats with too many adjectives.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
Three July 2005.
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This is bananas. My question is who approved that?
Do you see where this is going? Not really.
Hello there this is a little podcast that we like to call t -, 20 where we rewind exactly 2 decades, 2 relieved the news, pop culture scandals, bangers and what the moments from the same week 20 years ago. It's nostalgia, but slightly unhinged. With your slightly unhinged. Close. Well, actually I speak for myself. Mel's pretty good. She's good. Joe and Mel. Hello.
Yeah, in.
Mel fairly hinged 3 to 9 July 2005. Ohh very cracky joints cracked all the joints crack. Let me just turn the music up a bit loud and you can't hear it. Exactly. Aliens are invading the box office.
Bit creaky from time to time, but yeah, all doesn't swing too much these days.
NASA slams A spacecraft into a comment on purpose. We have the tragedy across London, in particular, the underground Wimbledon royalty, Missy Elliott, Little Kim going to gaol, grabbed bedazzled iPod, mini, fluffy, juicy tracksuit and prepared to go deep.
Like something out of a movie. A juicy track. Ohh yeah those ones so I don't like the the the dazzled bits, they they hurt. My bottom.
Right now we're -1 spacecraft. The impactor. It's been totally vaporised per plan. And we were right on target, as you've heard. And we have a healthy flyby. Spacecraft.
Those crazy scientists have planned vaporising spacecrafts as per their grand plan. What are those nerds up to? You'll find out more about that in the news.
Hey, Glenn.
Known by her showbiz name Lil' Kim, the hip hop artist was convicted of conspiracy and perjury charges in 2005.
Now.
Yes, she was.
Why did the man that tells you the time feel the need to? Tell us about little Kim. How's that?
Ohh it's it does sound at the third stroke it will be little tip o'clock. We'll talk about that in music news.
London's entire underground network has been closed. After an explosion at Oldgate underground station in the east of. The city.
Remember this very well doesn't feel like 20 years ago they coordinated terrorist attacks that bring London to a standstill and change the conversation. I think on homegrown extremism. It's like, ohh, it doesn't happen here. It happens in Afghanistan now. It's happening in London and it's happening right now. And I I remember it very, very well. We'll discuss that very, very soon.
Yeah.
What I want to discuss now though, might to reflect like to reflect on some horror movies from yesteryear. If that's alright with.
Yes.
You.
Rudy, I I love a good horror, you know, I. Love horror movies, I. Know you do so much and and I I I as I got older I thought I wouldn't have the stomach for them, but I've actually still really enjoy well horror movies in and of themselves have got a lot worse. We've gotta keep up.
You've gotten worse. Well, they've had to. Yeah, they've gotta up the ante. Like, where do you go from here?
Yeah. Where do you go for the human centipede? Exactly. Yeah. Ohh, that's where they went. Yeah.
Wow, OK wow.
Exactly. I found some great tweets reflecting on. Horror, the genre. Let's see if you agree.
Really.
Uh-huh. It's weird. How the final destination movies have impacted my life? Will I go on a tanning bed? Nope. Will I drive behind a logging truck? Hell no. Will I? Will I swim near a pool drain? Definitely.
09. Definitely. You know, these are the things you're afraid of. As we spoke about this before, so we used to we used to live in a small town called Walker and and.
Not.
Yes, yes.
Tributes.
That was up in northern NSW and it was it was in the mountains and when we used to drive to the coast you'd go down this coast road and there were lots of logging trucks scared the gigantic logs on the back of them. Horrifying.
Logging time. Yeah, I will not drive near. Did we ever find out how the vampires interview went? Did he get the job?
That's very.
Good with the response interview with the Vampire Second Round interview with the Vampire Zoom interview with the team with the Vampire, we have decided to pursue another candidate, but we'll keep you in mind if future positions open up with the vampire.
Ohh, you bet on an Order of Merit, vampire. That's very good.
I saw the Blair Witch project way too young and it made me afraid of projects. You know what?
The Blair Witch is a full on one that did you know what that made me afraid of? Amateur.
Film Makers Ghost Face is the scariest movie villain because he. Wants to talk on the phone because. I'd survive. I don't answer the phone, ever.
Ohh that's remember when you were. Kids and everyone. When the phone rang, it was the most exciting thing in the world. Ever remember that when the phone rang in the house, you fight with your brother and sisters to answer it. And now?
For a while.
It's just like. Every time the phone rings, nobody wants to answer it. It's that is the scary.
I hate it when people ask why is it called silence of the Lambs? Like, did you hear any picking lambs during the movie? Use your head.
Not that quite. It's the entire time. I'm very sore throughout the entire thing.
And this one, after years of them begging to see it, I decided to let my kids watch the ring. We're watching it together. So far, I've had to explain VCR. Landline phones, photo development stores, newspapers. What other horrors await in the ring?
Is a horror sounding recorder in the ring. I mean, that's not horror sounding. That's beautiful.
Anything.
Sounding yeah, what are you? Trying to say, Mel recorded that recorder is it. That's that's very matter, isn't it? Recording the recorder. Hmm? Yes, if you were wondering what that tune was. I think that is.
How could you be wondering, how could you not? Know what that shirt is?
Viewer master just it's just the Entertainment Tonight. Yeah, Keith and now it's over to your hosts, John Tesh and Liza Gibbons.
Because at the start of it.
And it would be. Which celebrity? Who did blah. Blah is having a.
5th day today.
Right. And that's where it comes from. the Hatch match and dispatch clue. The segment is at the end of the show, but the clue is at the start. That's right. It's about anything. Yeah, they could target. Hmm.
But we've expanded, it's not just birthdays. Wedding would be an engagement. Deaths. Yeah. Yeah, whatever.
We. We're trying to cast the net a little bit wider in the hope of not having to work so hard to get content. So there's a celebrity that was. Engaged. Engaged. Not quite a map. It's enough of the mats. It fits in the category. That said this.
Yes. What's? Match. That's that's official. Yeah.
All of a sudden this window opened up where? I was safe. I had money. He loved my children. It wasn't something he feared. He seemed to be comfortable with the enormity of the ex husband. I mean, you know, I felt like I was not coming with baggage. I had trunks.
She had trunks and we'll find out who or what was in those trunks at the end of the show. I don't know what we agreed.
Upon 4th of July 2005, NASA's Deep Impacts Mission chief to ground breaking milestone take it from here.
Ohh.
I do I. Do remember this. I do remember this and I remember this because they called the mission deep impact and you remember the film deep impact where Kaylee only dies on the beach at the end with her dad because an asteroid hits the Earth. Spoiler alert. But Jesus Christ, you had to sit through nearly 2 1/2 hours for that, which by today's standards is really not that long for a film because all films go for two.
It was pretty much the same as Armageddon, same movie.
Three freaking hours and then it's like, you know, I'm usually asleep before the end of it anyway, and I just wake up going. What happened? It's it's a little bit of an early boom anyway, but I apologise for that, but yeah, so that that happened. NASA did a thing that deep, the deep impact mission, which was what? When they collided A spacecraft, it was very Hollywood movies. They. Yes. With with a comet.
OK.
Hmm.
On purpose.
Called Temple 1 Temple TEMPEL not LE1 and that was the first time that humanity had ever been able to directly explore what was underneath the surface of a. And that's exciting because there was a movie called Armageddon where they decided that it was more appropriate that they actually sent rough next from an oil rig up in a spacecraft other than astronauts to actually land on the surface of a comet that was going to collide with the earth or man, that was an asteroid. It wasn't a comet.
Yeah, same thing.
I'm digressing. I'm going off. Back but it achieved a big milestone because of what it had done colliding with that comet. The overview of the Mission 12th of January 2005 is when they launched, OK, the target is comet 9 P Slash Temple 1. The objective is to study the comet's internal composition. Mm-hmm. By creating an impact crater and analysing. The ejected material. Hmm. Fly by spacecraft is equipped with a high resolution set of instruments that observe the impact and then collect the data. So there's two craft. One is designed to collide with the comet, the other designed to see the collision and go ohh. And then try and. Actually collect some of the data from that impact. Maybe some samples potentially yes. So the first one impactor A is a 370K copper projectile which is designed to hit the comet at high speed. So when I say 2 craft I mean.
Robin.
That's not entirely true. 1 is a copper.
Dial dials 2 things that's correct. They're working together in unison.
Well, I mean. Essentially, a spacecraft is a projectile. It's just hurtling through space, doesn't know where it's going, what it's gonna. In this case it does because there's people that have worked very hard through university, unlike myself, who are.
To dig into the clothes. Just play the NASA guy, maybe.
Probably really good.
Right now we're -1 spacecraft. The impactor. It's been totally vaporised, per. Plan and we were right on target as you've heard and we have a healthy fly by spacecraft. It came together quite well. It just phenomenal. It went very much like clockwork. We didn't exercise a single contingency plan in and doing the trajectory. Correction manoeuvres of it and you can see it all the way up to the end. We.
That's what you just performed the trajectory correction manoeuvre. Thank you very much. I got a bit lost. I apologise.
I'm here to help. Here the velocity of just over 22,000 mph delivering an energy equivalent of 4.8 tonnes of TNT.
That's a lot of TNT.
The crater was around 150 metres, or 492 feet. In. Diameter. That's.
A lot of metres.
Injecting a plume of material into space so lots of rubble came out.
Say that is quite a plus.
Yeah, it was observed by the flyby spacecraft and also Earth based and space based telescopes with. Unprecedented data on the comets composition.
Yes, they discovered that the comet surface was cause. After it hit.
A.
Well, probably made a bit more. Well, it doesn't make a noise cause in space is a vacuum. Can't hear anything in a vacuum. The comet surface was found to be covered with this fine powdery material and it indicated that the structure of the comet was actually porous absorbent. Yes, it maybe it had a sphagnum core. Who knows the the subsurface materials.
Hmm.
Of the comet, the impact exposed pristine materials from underneath. The surface of the comet that included water, ice and organic compounds.
Which made them think that comets may have played a role in delivering the building blocks. Of life to. Earth because of the organic matter contained in it and the interior of it, was well shielded from solar.
Yes.
Eating, preserving ancient materials from the early solar system. So.
Lots of facts, that's.
Fact.
There.
I mean murd gasm. That's exciting. Right? Like, that is very exciting. Let's we have to go on to a very serious topic. Yeah.
Yes, yes, yes.
And I I do remember this so well, and I remember it when it hit the news and it was like, what is going on because this is where we were getting I think post September 11, the media became a lot more savvy and boots on the ground and real time reporting is very much a thing now. And it was very much a thing. During this event, but as a consequence to the flow of information was it was really fluid and it changed a lot and the not the narrative but. The the the the situation changed a lot, so we're talking obviously about the London bombings that happened on the 7th of July in 2005.
Yeah, the deadliest terrorist attack for coordinated suicide bombings targeting the public transport system during the morning rush hour, known as the 77 bombings, resulting in the death of 52 civilians. Injuring over 700 others.
Reports are just coming in of an explosion at Liverpool Street station here in London.
I'm at all going. I can confirm a bomb damage to train 1 carriage completely. Right now, at least nine people very seriously injured and trapped 2 confirmed collapses.
We're now also hearing that there have been further incidents at Russell Square, now British Transport Police are saying that a power surge caused the incidents, some of which caused explosions. There are two trains stuck in tunnels at Edgware Rd. And it's not known if they've collided or whether passengers remain on board.
Everyone thought they were gonna die.
We're now hearing reports that a bus has been ripped apart in an explosion in central London.
Yeah.
One man has actually shown myself some photos that he recorded on his mobile phone of a bus exploding a few streets away, just near to Houston station.
All of London's transport is currently disabled or or stopped. Whether that's buses or trains. So the safest thing everybody can do is to stay where they.
Are think about that. Think about all that chaos and then the dude comes on and he's like the safest thing you can do is stay where you are. I'd be like ********. Like, imagine if you're in the middle of London like I do not want to be here. And I guess that's. But you know, and then it's panic and everyone bails. So I'm probably gonna be one of those people. But like, stay where you are.
Maybe if you're at home body man.
Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I I don't. Well, you couldn't. They couldn't go anywhere anyway, remember? So the timeline, 8:50 AM, three bombs detonated within 50 seconds on London Underground trains between Liverpool Street and Old Gate stations on the Circle Line. Just outside Edgware Rd station on the Circle line and between Kings Cross and Russell Square stations on the Piccadilly line and then a fourth bomb explodes on the upper deck of a #30 double Decker bus at Tavistock Square. It was so interesting when the when the the playing the the media stuff. Of how like those early reports. And they're like, it's a power surge.
They didn't have. And they didn't have all the information. So they're talking about just one scene. And then it started building. Ohh, no, actually now we've got another one and another one which.
Yeah. Yeah.
Reminded me a lot. Too of September 11, when you had the first plane, then you had the second plane. Then you had the Pentagon, the same kind of thing, and then you just, you're listening. And these reports. And then there's more and.
Hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
More and you're just like.
It's coordinated. When's it gonna stop and cause this happened? This was for within. Ohh no 333 within 50 seconds. And then I think the Tavistock Square one happened a little bit late.
When's it gonna end? What else is gonna happen? It's so scary. Was all around the same. That was a bit later.
Yeah.
But you didn't get all the information all at once.
And you were. Well, like cause I think even then, even though it was happening in London, I think everywhere else was like, well, a coordinated attack is happening in a capital city. So it it it, this is a global thing maybe especially.
Yeah.
After September 11, like people are freaking out.
And Bali as well.
Yeah, sambali as well, of course.
They were carried out by 4 Islamists extremists who used homemade explosive devices concealed in backpacks. They were actually identified as British nationals, which then obviously highlighting concerns about homegrown terrorism. They immediately shut down the entire underground system and a significant portion of the bus network and the challenges, obviously because they're underground, rail network and tunnels and.
Yeah. So this is where people are like. Evacuating and they're walking through the train tunnels.
So. And emergency services obviously then facing challenges and getting down in there to help people as well.
Well, not to mention the fact that it's if it's underground like and there's a burning train carriage under there and then the oxygen and the smoke and all of that sort of stuff, it's it's not going to be very pleasant so.
Yeah.
There's gonna be, you know, aside from the initial impact, there's gonna be like, obviously consequences for the people that are stuck down there.
As well, in the days that followed, they revealed that the bombers had links to extremist networks, although the extent of direct involvement with groups like Al Qaida remained unclear.
Hmm.
They left behind video statements and letters that made their motivations clear. They framed the bombings as a response to Britain's foreign policy in particular. Villa the involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. They said they were retaliating for the deaths of Muslims in wars involving the UK's global Muslim solidarity. They expressed a belief in defending Muslims worldwide, identifying themselves with broader grievances across the Islamic world. Radicalization and identity. All four were. British citizens, three were of Pakistani descent.
Yeah. Well, and I think too like the and I, I I don't know that Tony Blair's. Reelection has a lot to do with that radicalization, but I think it's people that have already probably been radicalised and they're living there and they're just like, you know, Blair gets in again and he's obviously been somebody that's been quite divisive because he has been so aligned with George W Bush. And that and that's that's with even people that are just anti war. At this stage, they're like, well, why? We, but I don't know. But like, obviously I think I think that the the tension regardless of of where it's kind of dispersed cause I don't think that the tension between Islamic extremists and the fact that Tony Blair got reelected is necessarily the same thing, but that that tension overall is just. Compounding, if you know what I mean, like it's like there's everyone's just kind of a little bit on a. Edge and and so the people that are are freaking out about stuff are freaking a little bit more freaked out. And the people that might be intending to do harm are a little bit more.
Agitated. Yeah. And although it wasn't directly planned or executed by Al Qaeda, they were inspired by Al Qaeda ideology. Radicalised is is a trend that they would later became a trend and it was described as leaderless jihad, decentralised but ideologically connected to the global jihadist movements.
Stupid. So stupid. So, but I mean officially, it was concluded that they acted primarily. Out of opposition to British foreign policy and that while religion was used as a justification, the political motivations were central and no warnings were received beforehand, and intelligent failures allowed this whole thing to develop undetected, which is probably why it went off, I guess from their perspective. From the perpetrators perspective so successfully. Ohh, let's clear it out with. A bit of sport. Ohh. Tennis. Oh, sorry. Well, this is, I mean, Wimbledon just happened previous to the London bombings and that was the 3rd of July when Roger Federer won his third consecutive title against was it? It was Andy Roddick, wasn't it? Yes, it was, of course.
Let it July.
Hmm.
Read the notes, you moron.
Now he's in second, so there's this 11 angels, no double faults. 48 winners, 11 on four stars.
Can you suck my?
Three in a row for Roger Federer.
4.
The rise of Federer.
'S exceptional form it's.
It's mad ******** tennis fans talking about this here.
Hey, played well in the first set, beating Roddick twice to take to 62. Second set was more competitive, but he prevailed in the tiebreaker 7/2.
Yeah.
The third set a crucial break at 33. Allowed Federer to serve out the match and what any of that means, but no idea that we won.
It's all about the stats. It's all about the stats. Do the math. He wins 101 points to Roddick 74. He demonstrates efficiency on serve and return, and then he converts four of nine break points and maintains a high first serve percentage, winning 82% of those points. Rod. Nick, named for his powerful serve, only manages one break of Federer's serve. That's the difference maker. That's sorry, am I keeping you awake?
Sorry, just had a micro sleep then. Yeah, I'm fine.
Are you alright? Alright.
Yes, he became the third man in an open era to win 3.
The three P.
Effective Wimbledon titles joining Bjorn Borg and Pete Sampras. Remember Pete? Yeah. It was a rematch of the previous year's championship. So they were rivals, well known rivals.
Speak to you in Wimbledon.
Eh.
Pete Sampras had hair like a Lego man.
All right.
He had great eyebrows, so like.
You did.
Eyebrows. Wonderful eyebrows. Very nice. Federer beat him. The.
Had. Like a Lego man as well, hmm?
Year before as. Well, and then they'd meet again. In 2009, Federer wins again.
I think that wow, that's hard for Andy Brodick, isn't it? Yeah, it's like he's that's he's gonna get him in his dreams for the rest of his life. Ohh, it's music time. Finally get clearer. The news get clearer. The tennis.
No, just give up mate.
And we're into the entertainment section. The back half of the show is always the nicest part, I think. Hmm, don't you?
Yes, yes, we've got Mariah at #1 here in Australia, we belong together.
Yeah.
Come back.
All of them.
Ain't nobody. Number one in the UK, still ghetto Gospel, Tupac feat. Elton John.
Phone.
It ain't about because we're human.
Black or white?
Gospel.
Me.
That's I I think I enjoyed that song, which is interesting because I've never used to be like, oh, you can't call it a song. If it's wrapped.
No.
Well.
Yeah, that was, that was the old me. The new ME is very open to all sorts of forms of music, but still a bit of a *******. So yeah, that was a good.
Song. I like it. OK, over to the US charts. Top five. Sounded like this.
Came into the place right from your place.
There ain't nobody.
That's a it's a horrific it's. Horrific week in the Billboard top five. It's it's only saved by the fact that Mariah. Has restored herself on the top on the perch at #1.
Well, she should bend. Yes, everything is as it should be.
Well, almost. What's happening underneath is very, very strange. I I don't. I don't like it.
#5 don't fog with my heart. It's #4 hollaback girl. And here's where it gets weird. Inside your heaven, Carrie Underwood last week.
It does. I mean, song title aside, some title. Weird enough.
Last week's number one is back to #3.
Yeah. Hmm.
#2 inside your heaven, Bo.
Bias. Yeah. So you go. That'll do, but it's it's weird. It just doesn't sit well with me. That.
When you play played the two of them, by the time I got to bow, it sounded like my Walkman.
We've got 2. Yeah.
Batteries were dying. You sounded a little slower. These boys were slower than Gary.
Sort of male boys, little bit slower. It's a little bit more country. He's going down where she goes up and yeah, it it does. It did sound like that.
The Duracells have run out of juice. That's what they did, do they did the but.
I thought I.
Thought with the winners song that the loser then didn't do, the winner song had to do a different song like Noah's one that went in Condobolin Landfill and then went into his it was a B side.
Hmm.
Didn't didn't see the light of day. Yeah. Didn't they just put it into landfill? Went into landfill. Since some area 51 style location landfill, yeah.
On his feeling. Yeah. I didn't know. That's weird. So does that mean that in the American one that number one and #2 released the same song?
I think it means I think it I.
Would that have happened in the other years or just bow got and God? I'm just gonna put it out. I don't care.
No, I think it means that the record company behind this are just a bunch of greedy ducks who are trying to get 2 bites of the cherry. And lo and behold, look what happened. They succeeded. So whoever wrote that song is like just getting a really good run for their money.
Please.
I'd like to know, did anyone buy the CD singles of both?
Yes.
Really.
Did anyone go out and buy both?
They probably did. I reckon they would have people when they're like, they're really die hard fans of that show. Just just gobble up everything from that top group of people.
Well, I didn't realise that that was there was 2 inside your heaven, so I didn't write anything down about bobus. But we know him. He got married and.
We talked to him, we talked to him last weekend. Right. Losing there last week, wasn't he? No. Ohh, no, that was.
10 seconds. He wasn't.
Underwood one second. You. Ohh. We talked about him a few weeks ago. Yes, I see what you're saying. Yeah, whatever. That's it's. It's just a weird week. It's a weird week in the charts there. This album release, though is pretty great. I think. I I I quite appreciate this person as an artist. I think they are extraordinarily talented. And did I say that?
That's what I mean. She was #1 and now? He's yeah, whatever. Yeah.
Directly, extraordinarily talented. And UM. I don't. Well, we're. We don't hear much from them these days, do.
We ohh no, they're still around. They've had a massive makeover. They they've just been ageing backwards. Real ageing backwards. Missy Elliott was talking about her 6th studio album. The cookbook is released this week, 20 years ago. Significant evolution. So up until this point.
Have.
He'd been doing a lot of collaborations with timberland, you know, Timberlands.
Hmm.
Yep, Yep, Yep.
This time around, she worked with a lot of producers. Actually, the Neptunes, rich Harrison, Scott Storch, the lean back guy and lean back to craft, an album that blended the hip hop, R&B and dance. And obviously the stand out.
Ohh that guy, the stylus. Lean back. Mm-hmm.
Track which blended eye. Ohh God, I get so tired when I hear this and it's too much lose control featuring Sierra and fat man.
Yeah.
Yes.
There we go.
There we go.
I've gotta make you do a double taste. Face chubby waist, thick legs and shaking, shaking both.
Hi Energy Track major hits. It just makes me tired. There's just. There's too much.
Oh, oh oh. That's right.
Music make you lose control like it's just all over the shop and it I can't handle.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's rubbing the wrong way. I get it, I get it.
It I can't handle.
It it's too much.
There's another fat man. Scoop that be faithful ones like that too. I just. Alright, pee fat scoop.
Yeah, it is. It is too much. That is, that is not the song I like. I there is.
The what?
He does a ballot on there and I that's OK, the teary eyed one, which is where she actually kind of sings a little bit. Yeah, that reached the top 50 in several countries including Australia and the UK. I'll have you know. But the one that I really like is the one that samples the the sugar Hill gangs version of Apache and it's called we run this.
That. I didn't pay attention that way.
You know my my words, my word.
Yes.
It don't matter where you're from, it's where you had and if you came to freaking.
Leak better bring you. Yeah, that's great. Very good. That was the theme song for a film called Stick It. And it was nominated for a Grammy for Best Rap Solo Performance. And it is a cracking track.
Hmm.
I like it better than lose control. Put it that.
To.
Way lose. Yeah, lose control sisters.
Busy bit busy makes me tired because I'm just.
I mean, you know, the the music I listen to is far more abrasive, but for some reason I'm just like, can you? It's that dude, the fat man scoop doing his. Ohh.
Yeah.
It's very tired.
That man script RIP, mate, but it's just it's just.
You're too much, you know, and I think that's probably why your life ended a little bit prematurely just because there's too much.
Too much? Whoa, whoa, whoa. You live life in. The slower lane. You're saying you had a bit too much going too much stress, too much stress on the body.
Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I just think it was all too much, too soon. He he was a big he was a big man. We lived very fast. That's all. I'm no disrespect intended, purely observed.
He went too fast. Very. No, no.
Yes. But we're talking about mercy.
The album the cookbook received generally favourable reviews, with critics praising her willingness to experiment with new sounds, but some people felt. It's a little bit all. Over the shop reflecting.
It's, you know what I liked about it is it's you remember rap albums in the in the late 80s and that have like sketches. So they do like a sketch, so the cookbook starts with the sketch and I won't spoil it. Like go and listen to it. It's really fun, but I I I I used to love that whole thing with sketches on rap albums like iced tea, used to do it. Body count. Snoop Dogg used to do it. N.W.A used to do it. The sketches.
Yes, in between the songs. Snoop Dogg used to do it. That's right. It used to annoy me. It annoys. No, they annoy me.
Yeah, I was. I was. I I liked stand up comedy and like. Yeah. Yeah, I think that I liked that more than the actual.
It felt. A comedy album Felt like. I was listening to a Rodney Rude CD.
Did you?
No, I found it annoying to be.
At the time at the time. But then I I I I I I discovered that you could actually listen to it and understand what went into it and all that stuff. But I I thought, yeah, the sketches were cool. That was like a throwback.
Honest. Let's just play the song. Yeah. Look, I'm glad she did that. And if she only did it once on the album, then that's fine. Whatever.
Ohh wow, I just don't.
Like them, it just it just breaks the music up too much and it just bothers me. Just bothers me.
Alright.
Sometimes you need that, sometimes you need that because all that rap it sounds the same. So it's like if you have a. Distraction in the middle?
There's a little Kim song that I've been listening to at the gym and this leads nicely into some little Kim news.
Where's my boom? Sorry. Yeah.
Is it magic stick? It is magic stick and at the end she is no man.
When you're working out, you listen to magic stick when?
That's another song.
You're working out? Yeah. Wow.
Yeah. What? What is it? Magic stick? Or is it another one? I think it's magic stick. And at the end, she's talking. She's pretending she's on a radio station and she's like talking to. Dudes that are ringing up and then she hung up on it. It's just annoying and because it's attached to. The end of the song.
The sketch. Yeah, OK.
You gotta it just keeps playing and I'm just like, ohh, that's too. Much I don't want to sketch.
Yeah. Well, I mean, if you just wanna be listening to. Music back to back. Yeah, maybe as part as part of a narrative or a concept or a full album experience. I mean, this is things that we don't experience these days because people just buy one song. Hmm. But in the context of a full album, I think trying to like paint a picture with words and sounds that you can imagine in your brain while you're listening to it is nice.
No, nothing. Sure, little Kim. Let's go back to little Kim. She is sentenced to a year and a day in.
Yeah. Sent. That's the way up, didn't I?
Prison. Really, for lying? You've gone to prison for telling lies. Sentenced to one year, one day for perjury and conspiracy. She'd lied to a grand jury during an investigation.
Ohh she's a liar, liar, liar, pants on fire.
Into a 2001 shootout outside New York's Hot 97 radio station involving her associates and members of the rival rap group, Capone En Noriega.
I think he said that really. Well, but let's just compare.
Known by her showbiz name Lil' Kim, the hip hop artist was convicted of conspiracy and perjury charges in 2005 and served several months behind bars. The case stemmed from a gun battle that erupted outside WQHD FM, known as Hot 97, when Lil Kim's entourage crossed powers with rival rap group Capone in Noriega, who Sung Bang Bang contains an insult to her from rival Foxy Brown. One man was hurt in the shootout that fall.
I'm fairly certain that the bloke that that did that voice over has been the voice over for tip top bread or.
The phone guy to me. Or have you rented a funny video taste?
Or like.
Yes. Yeah, it's probably not the videotape guy, but he's he's.
He feels like a serious like.
Six top bakeries.
It's not a, it's not a movie trailer. It's something serious, like you're getting. It's either like a getting in trouble, public service announcement or it's I'm going to tell you the time.
Ohh, maybe it was like the AIDS Grim Reaper commercial. Could have been, yeah. How many?
Ohh I think it.
Might be. People. Are you sleeping with?
Yeah. I don't know, ask little. Kim. Ohh foxy.
Now we're brown, but.
Yes. So it's just I think you did it.
Better. Thank you. Thank you. I didn't realise I was saying all.
If we're being honest, at least you knew what you were doing. He would have been in that voiceover Booth just going.
The same words. What's a Capone in Noriega?
Exactly. I have no idea what we're talking about here, but you do, and that's why yours was built.
Yes. Yeah, because little Kim folks Brown were. Enemies and such.
I've heard you discuss this feud at many at many at a conversation at a many a cookout.
20 shots were fired or something, one injury, so she faced up to 20 years in prison, but then got a lighter sentence after she expressed her. Course saying I testified Kim being remorseful.
Could you imagine if little Jim 20, not only that? Oh, my God, I'm choking. Imagine if little Kim got 20 years gaol. Wow.
In gaol, she wouldn't be with Kim. When she got out, she'd be old Kim.
She be withered, Kim.
She said at the time I thought it was it was the right thing to do. Now I know it's wrong, so that was her remorse. Now I know it's wrong. Ohh you're remorseful. OK, so only one year and one day rather than 20 years. She began serving her sentence in September 2005 at the Federal Detention Centre in Philadelphia.
July. Yeah, generally. It's a good deal. Hmm.
And was released on the 3rd of July 2006 after serving 10 Mom. And then she also had some home detention and some supervised release and a $50,000 fine. But it's the venue I'd like to talk about. So New York's hot 97 radio station actually been the site of several high profile shooting, earning, earning at the nickname shot, 97 due to the frequency of violent.
It's see, it's not, is it?
Incident one peanut. That's the radio station that Peanut got shot at when $0.50 was talking about the game. Yes, in 2005. February 2005 was when, 50 said he was kicking the game out of.
Why are they? They're peanut. Got shot outside of us. He was. He's in the games crew, yes.
Gee, you net? So Peanut got shot.
People are just waiting for them, but their rivals are just waiting for them to appear at this they they all listen to the radio station and it's like again coming up next. We've got an interview with.
It must be a cool place to shoot people.
It's peanuts, and then all of a sudden it's like, yo, man, peanuts gonna be at the radio station. Let's just wait till he comes out and shoot him. Yeah, it's been they've been listening. They know, to show up.
Ohh, you think that's why? Yeah. OK, so were they were they were teasing it, teasing it in the in the hours proceeding interview.
It's pretty good. So it's like, yeah. So they're offering sacrifices in order to boost their ratings. Great. So if you listen to that radio station and, you know, when people. The showing up that you want to kill then, then this is health. Yeah. So it's contributing, definitely contributing to ratings. I bet you they got a survey diary too, and filtered out accordingly.
Like Google Maps or something, isn't it? In April 2006, rapper Gravy, also known as Jamal, was shot in the buttocks outside of Hot 97. Remarkably, though, gravy proceeded to enter the station and complete his interview with the bullet in the ****. Yes, probably wasn't sitting down for the interview, but.
Oh my God. Peanuts and gravy. After we've been shot in the ****, that's hilarious.
He went and did it. That that was reportedly due to a dispute with an associate over participating in the intern. Dangerous game. Don't go in the interview. I'll shoot you in the **** if you go in there.
Don't go in there. Don't go in there. Because when you're coming out, you'll get shot. And if you do go in there, I'll shoot you myself.
No, on the way in. Shot him in the *** and he still went in and did the interview.
Well, he's obviously gone. I'm going in anyway. He's gone. I'm gonna shoot you. And he kept walking. So he. Shot him in the bum.
Boxes he walked into the radio. Isn't that a man? I'm glad we never had that at the radio station. People shooting each other out the front. Just listen a cake.
Yeah.
That was it.
No, I don't know. I'd I'd rather be killed quickly by a bullet than listener cake. It's a big week at the box office, a blockbuster debuting in the USA or or not debuting. Sorry, I should say I think, although I think it did, actually, no it did. It topped the box office on debut. Hmm. That's why it was a blockbuster. It was war of the world. So Steven Spielberg adaptation of the HG Wells Classic novel.
No one would have believed in the early years of the 21st century that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own. That, as men busied themselves about their various concerns. They observed and studied. With infinite complacency. Men went to and fro about the globe, confident of their empire over this world. Yet across the Gulf of space. Intellects, vast and cool and unsympathetic, we guarded our planet with envious eyes. And slowly and surely drew their plans. Against us.
I think that's why NASA was shooting comets. Well, we're we're shooting stuff out in space here, just in case. Just in case you're watching. Yeah. Tom, this is the Tom Cruise movie. This is why he confessed his love for Katie Holmes and just carrying on like a pork chop. And you know.
Mm-hmm.
You never know.
Hmm.
His wire, his Tash jumping. During the promo tour for this movie.
Yeah, exactly. It's just, you know, there was a promotional. Wedding. Go with it. War of the Worlds is coming out, so get on it, Tom, so to speak. And he took that very literally. He played a wharfie from New Jersey named Ray a donkey. And he's he was divorced and he was struggling to connect with his kids. One of which was Dakota Fanning.
Yes, yes.
Hmm.
Hmm.
And they had this weekend together, and then all of a sudden the aliens invaded so that that up. You know, yeah, there's no pizza, dad.
Yes.
This house on that weekend cause the aliens came big tripods that came from underneath the earth underneath the earth, which was a bit of A twist cause I think it's the original water worlds was like the chances of anything coming from Mars.
Thieves. That's a surprise. Didn't they say they were watching they? Were watching down.
Yes, but maybe I think they planted them in. The ground I.
And then they grew out of the. Grounds the hot grounds.
Did try slots. I need to watch it again. I feel like I need to watch it again. I don't think it was that bad. Is this Spielberg film? Big tripods coming up out of the ground.
I don't think it's that unlikely, to be honest. After all, the things that have been revealed over the last few years.
Using heat rays. Electrodes. Ohh now. Thing would surprise me these days. Yeah. You know it well, you should be. I. I'm. I too, am worried. What kind of a world have we brought our child into? No, neither do I. But for for war of the world, it was a successful world because it cost him $132,000,000 to make it. And they made, I think, 234.
Hmm, I'm a bit worried to be honest.
Hmm.
I don't know.
No good return on investment.
Domestically, worldwide, 603 million, that's good, very good, it's.
Yeah, there you go. ROI. Very good.
And lots of Academy it. Well, it got a lot of nominations, I should say, for best visual effects, sound mixing, sound editing.
Yes. I think Dakota Fanning got to run there as a child actor. They like her. Everyone loved Dakota Fanning.
Yes, that standing visual effects and models and miniatures, and yeah, the music and the effects.
So yeah. Yeah, and. And the number one movie in Australia too.
Not Tom Cruise.
No one would have believed in the.
No, I'm not gonna do that. Be ridiculous. What didn't I read 20 years ago this week, Mel?
The historian by Elizabeth Kostova. Mm-hmm.
Ah.
Sounds boring, but I think it's about Dracula.
Really. Hmm. Why didn't I read this book? That sounds great. What have I got? That's that's not good enough. That's not it. It's just stunning. No, not that either. Or maybe that's pretty easy.
That sounds Dracula. Rish.
Yeah. Track Hilary. Yeah. OK. Ready. Yeah. To you, perceptive reader, I bequeathed my history late one night exploring her father's library. A young woman finds an ancient book and a cache of yellowing letters. The letters are all addressed to my dear and unfortunate success, her and they plunge her into a world she never dreamed of, a labyrinth where the secrets of her father's past and her mother's mysterious faith connect to an inconceivable evil. Hidden in the depths of history, the letters provide links to one of the darkest powers that humanity has ever known, and to a centuries long quest to find the source of that darkness and wipe it out.
So.
Oh.
Sorry, I just broke wind. It is a quest for the tree I guess cause I got scared. I just did it.
You're pushing. You're doing that voice too. Hard. You're pushing.
You must do that like a nervous thought. They got really scared and the music made me frightened. I'm alright now. It's better out than in.
OK, great. Tell us the rest of the story.
And.
It is a quest for the truth about Vlad the Impaler, the mediaeval ruler whose barbarous reign. Form the basis of the legend of.
Dry.
Kulya.
Generations of historians have risked their reputation, their sanity and even their lives to learn the truth about Vlad the Impaler and Dracula, now one young woman must decide whether to take up this quest herself to follow her father in a hunt that nearly brought him to ruin years ago when he was a vibrant young scholar and her mother. Was still alive. That's the book. That's the that's the synopsis of the book.
Book.
Lots of reviews of.
The book read it at your peril.
Apparently, apparently the big twist in this is that Dracula's a librarian.
Yes.
What?
Mate, I don't know. That's what it said in one of the reviews. Maybe the review was. Wrong. I don't know, but something about.
I.
Him being a librarian.
I want to suck your.
Blush.
Be quiet. I want to suck your blood.
OK. So we're just gonna go with one review on the for from Abby of GAIL one star and must be must be Abigail which calls itself Abbey of GAIL, one star. She hated it and decided to give us a bunch of alternative titles.
OK, one review right here. Abbey of Gale. That's very. Yeah. She's a nerd, clearly.
The historian.
Ohh really?
And she her review is called alternate titles for the historian by Abby.
Hmm.
Would you like to go first? We'll we'll alternate.
Ohh would you? Like can I can I can I? Look, Elizabeth Kustova could research Balkan history.
The 600 page letter that supposedly was handwritten in. A few weeks.
I just realised we need hang on. Let's bring.
That back? Yeah, that will. Yes, had some drama.
Is that the one that wasn't the one that was it? This one. Hang on, let's.
I don't think that was it. No, it wasn't that.
Ohh no, wasn't that hang out. Well, which one was? It it was. Ohh that was it. Sorry my bad. Where are we up to? Ohh the we did the girl. Who said? Where oh where, had he gone? Unironically in the 1970s?
Descriptions of places Elizabeth Kostova went and what she ate when she got there, cleverly disguised as a.
Hey.
Novel. Must be a lot of food.
Chatter, yes, like reading. You won't after this.
The Dracula book. Which Dracula hardly ever shows.
Up. Ohh wow. Yeah, that's that's I'm. I'm not buying it now. Let's turn me right off now. The dad who writes detailed letters to his daughter about his love affairs.
Because he's a.
Librarian, you're busy. Busy.
Hmm.
If you don't hate yourself by page 400, I will eat my purple velvet gem and crusted hat. The gems are purple, green, gold, and catch the light like a wave on a sunny day, but the fabric looks old and worn like it is old because Dracula is old and so he wears an old hat. Have I included enough details about the hat yet?
Denise.
I can put in more if it will make the. Book longer.
Oh. The man who can remember conversations word for word 20 years later.
Have you rolled?
Your eyes today, that's a good one. I like that one. I figure that's like, I think that's a standard comment or that that could be a title for any married woman's autobiography.
Yes and yes always.
Yeah. See, you're doing it again. Dracula wants to enslave smart. People see he's a librarian.
People in Bulgaria are poor and eat gross.
Things OK, that's a bit rude. This ready the book of amazing coincidences or wow, you got the same 15th century book made by Dracula that I got. You're the third one this week.
It is. Want to know what Dracula looks like? Well, too bad the main character doesn't want. To think about. It she will, however, describe his gem and crusted hat. It was purple.
Yeah, at most.
So Dracula wore a German crusted hat.
Do you think it was?
German I can't picture Dracula in a German crusted hat.
Do you think it was juicy couture?
Wasn't a disguise, do you think he was wearing it as a disguise like the time I?
As Jim, that means it is terrible, juicy couture, I think.
Like the time I bought a Yoda Pez and gave it an old lady. Hat. As a disguise, do you think maybe Dracula was?
Like you made a hat for a Pez.
That was Yoda. I put. A dress on him and gave him a. Hat it's my best work.
Yeah, I think I you know what I think I think you you should start writing down cause I reckon you're on for a New York Times bestseller. Cause if this is what passes I.
Think you're good? Just one review this week, one one star review, but you'll see why. It's a long review and so.
Right. Yeah. OK.
The the whole premise of the book was she found a bunch of.
Letters. Ohh. The book the. So she found letters in the book. Ohh yes of course.
Ladies that well, the book is no. But she didn't. She didn't read the book. The book is about her. She didn't read the book. She's in the book. She's in the book. She found the letters. So help you find traffic? Yeah, we obviously weren't listening to what?
Though with the links to the darkest power, she's in the book, but the letters that she found were the links to the dark power as per the synopsis of his Dracula. Yes.
You were saying?
I was, you know, I was just trying to get through it, which is pretty much the story of my life. I don't have a listener as I I'm never in the moment. I'm always, like, thinking like, how do I?
This.
Get out of this. Yeah. So this is written in the style of letter because she found letters. Dave, are you following?
Right. Yeah. Along how do I get? Out of this what? Sorry. So I'm following you.
Yes.
Khan, first of her name, mother of Bunnies, one star right, and her review goes like this.
She's written a letter.
January 3, 2014 so it's the date. She's written the.
Letter, yeah.
Dear Khan of 2006, I am your older, wiser self. Many things will happen in the years that have elapsed before you become the me of today you'll fall in. Love.
You.
You'll break hearts. You'll get your heart broken. Come as a *****. You will change jobs. You will graduate from college. Most importantly, you'll become more intelligent. You will learn the art of advanced thinking because really all college teaches you is how to get good grades by regurgitating textbooks. When you are older. As you begin to read critically, you will learn to appreciate a good book and you will be able to identify.
Literary ********.
When you see it.
That is all this book is literary.
Wow.
This book is dramatic rubbish, artistic gibberish. It is nothing more than a glorified travel brochure. Seriously. Younger than what the were you thinking when you enjoyed this book?
Ohh, so she's saying she liked.
It you thought it was sweet, you thought it was romantic. You thought the writing was beautiful. Really. Really. Between 2006 and 2014, you will be able to identify purple prose when you see.
Ohh wow. What A twist.
Yet you'll realise that flowery prose is not good writing correlation doesn't imply causation, and good writing does not necessarily encompass a good plot.
This is amazing.
You will be able to recognise a Deus Ex machina when you see it. Ohh I know that you learned about Deus Ex machina in AP English. You learned a lot of things in.
English class. This has made even more intense from with the scary music as well.
Is my.
And is it machina or machina?
Ohh I say machines maybe smacking her. Whatever.
Miss Shannon Shannon. You learned about symbolism, foreshadowing and all that good, but really it does. You know, looking good. Unless you are able to identify it when you see it. And clearly you did not see the tremendous, horrifying abominable. That's hyperbole. Overuse of Deus Ex machina machina upon your first perusal of this book. You will realise that a good.
Epistolary epistolary epistolary.
Dollar ebook. Yeah, you're welcome.
Thank you. Book involving several different characters should have the characters be actually looking distinct. Did you seriously think this book was realistic in any way when you can not distinguish between the narrative of an old man, an older man and that of a girl as she grows from? Her early teens? How?
How? Oh, wow. OK, keep going, because this is long. This is like how long does. This go.
Did you ever for a moment, think upon the complete absurdity of the letters and the storytelling, particularly when you said the letters and spoken stories were told in excruciating minutiae? Is that realistic in any way in your letters? Have you ever once mentioned the trivialities of your evening routine, particularly when it made no relevance whatsoever to whatever point you were trying to make?
Ohh boy.
While I waited, I pointed up the fire, added another log, set out two glasses, and surveyed my desk. My study also served me for a sitting room, and I made sure it was kept as orderly and comfortable as the solidity of its 19th century furnishings demanded I had completed a great deal of work that afternoon. It stopped off a plate brought up to me at 6:00, and then cleared the.
I feel.
Last of my papers.
Hang on now, this is changing tone now, because now it sounds like they're writing a story for somebody else. So I this person is messed.
Up when you tell a story to your friends, if you ever once mentioned the drumming of your fingertips when you're trying to tell a story of supposedly the utmost importance. I turned my fingers on the desk. The cloth in my study seemed to be ticking unusually loud tonight in the urban half. Darkness seemed too still behind my Venetian blinds.
Oh, I see what you're trying. Do.
I know you were young and stupid, but you're not that stupid.
Please don't tell.
Me, this book fooled you in any way do.
You seriously buy into the letters and the stories, letters, stories, book, the tempted letters and story.
And a. Epistolary timeline, that is everything overwrought and all that is overdramatic, completely devoid of sense and rationality. I would beg for a little bit of sensationalism over sense, because overall the plot of the story is entirely lacking in anything remotely resembling fascination. Anything that would captivate and hold the imagination rather than lulls it to sleep you and George.
Yeah.
There is 700 pages of this boulder dash for a story that doesn't even bring any sense of excitement. Vlad Teps holds no danger.
Vlad taps that's name. That's his name. Ohh God.
Easy. He is equivalent of a grown up high school bully. Once powerful, he no longer holds any amount of thrall.
It's good use of the word thrall, yeah. I like that.
The only remnants of his power are the few close hangers on. The few ********** foolish enough to cling on to the remains of a long diminished power that high school bully might scare a few odd child here and there.
You said what hangers on? ********** is a masterstroke.
But with his posturing with his scowls, you as an adult are no longer afraid. You as an adult should know better than. To buy into. This book's aesthetically pleasing, inconsequential clap trap. Reluctantly, yours and older are more erudite, considerably more critical Khan.
That is. That is next level, that is, I mean that person hates that book a lot. Can't revisited this and written her letters to themselves that they've published publicly on good read there. This is messed up and not to mention how long it was. But I think it was worth.
Karen doesn't like the book. Telling them off.
Going through just for the the mere fact that we get to. Bring new life to words like clap.
Clap. Trap that was nice, wasn't it?
Yeah, I don't mind. Clap. Trap. Yeah, it's a good one. And for all.
There it is.
Alright, it's time for the hatches. Matches. Are you OK?
I'm just a bit sleepy. It's past my bedtime. I have been going to bed at 9:30 lately and it's.
It's very late. I've gotta get up earlier than you tomorrow. Just brightly. Yeah, I've gotta. I've gotta get up and do dog training tomorrow.
It's 11:30. It's two hours past my bedtime. I'm not coping. With this very well tired.
Morning. So, you know it's hatches, matches and dispatches. We're almost there. If we if we'd stop whinging, it would have been done by now.
Yes, OK. Will we be? It's not one thing, it's another.
Sure is. Ohh, let's do this bloody thing. We got a match here, a celebrity who announced their engagement that said this.
All of a sudden this window opened up where I was safe. I had money. He loved my children. It wasn't something he feared. He seemed to be comfortable with the enormity of the ex husband. I mean, you know, I felt like I was not coming. With baggage I had trunks.
She had trunks. If you said to me more. You would be prick more tricks, especially if you were in New Zealand. Bro. Cura. No. If you said to me more, yes, you would be correct. She announced with Ashton Kutcher. Yeah. Their engagement. Yes, they were a big celebrity couple in 2005.
Yeah.
Jeez.
Barracuda moments.
Because she was so much older and Ashton was so much younger, so everyone was like, what? And, you know, she's Bruce Willis's ex and.
He's 15 years 5th difference between them. She was 40 and he was 20.
Yeah.
Yeah, Chinese, yeah.
Five and she. The the concept of the cougar. She was the the poster woman for the Cougar. That was when we started using that word because of her, I think.
Hmm.
I I I get it. I think it's wonderful. I really like older women.
Private wedding in September 2005, held at their home in Beverly Hills. Intimate, attended by around 100 people. Bruce and Wentz.
Through shut up. Yep. Yippee. OK, mother, OK, he says.
It was officiated by a rabbi from the Kabbalah Centre, reflecting their shared spiritual interests.
All they would have. Really, they would have their little that was when the red wool bracelets, the red wool bracelets thing Madonna used to give it to people. I thought it was wool. Kabala bracelet. Anyway, whatever.
The red the. Bands, bracelets. There was a thread, so I think it was wool was it wasn't thread. It looked very flimsy. I thought that's if you're gonna be a religion with a bracelet, have something that's a bit more gutsy, you know, like, I was really thin and thread.
Hmm.
Really. Like a big chunky cross mate.
Yeah, I don't know. Like, even even.
Something like that.
Like a silicon. Live strong band that was said Kabbalah or something. It just felt a. Little bit too underrated. Bit of string, just I don't know I.
OK. Well I think I think there's a lot of kabbalists. I hope that there are there are non.
Didn't like it. Violent religion. I'm sure they are. But look, no offence, it just felt a bit flimsy. Well, you've just.
Yeah. Uh. Of their, you know, spiritual attire flimsy.
I didn't say anything about their the religion. It was just the.
Bracelet bracelet was flimsy.
Good.
Flimsy. Well it is. It is alright. They were early adopters of Twitter. Do you remember that they used to put PDA like public displays of affection? Pictures on? Yeah.
Ohh Aston to me. Ohh right.
Do you call it Demi? Isn't it Demi?
Yeah, the.
To me.
I don't know, Demi, Demi to me.
Who are you?
John I've.
Ashton even live tweeted from their beds, posting a photo of her. In her underwear.
Oh, that's gross. I mean, that's alright.
The marriage lasted 6 years.
Yeah.
Separated. Well, they announced they announced their separation 2011 divorced in 2013.
2011 it was.
Yeah.
But they're still fairly amicable, but she's since released books saying.
I know. Are they? There's been talk recently which I don't know. It's a bit.
Grubby. Well, she's released a book and said that she had struggled with relapse and she was insecure. Yeah, trying to be the woman she thought he wanted and had agreed to other people. Being within the relationship, I guess.
A third party being involved. Yeah, right.
And him allegedly cheating, allegedly, which I think there was a lot of tabloid coverage of at the time.
Hmm.
Hmm. Hmm. Well, I mean, she, you know, Fast forward to recent times, and she's done pretty well. I think she was robbed at the Oscars with her nomination for that film. The substance, that body horror film that she was in recently, which was just fantastic. It was such a great movie, and it was so gross. And it was so horrific. And it was so terrible.
So yes.
Hmm.
But also the.
You recommended it to someone and I heard them come up to the.
Yeah.
Other. Day and they're like, I hate you. Why didn't you tell me? Watch that. I'm never listening to.
They're never gonna watch anything. Yeah. Don't ever make me watch. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. It was good. And I I knew that was was what was gonna.
You they were really mad.
Funny.
Oh.
Happen. Yeah. So but. But it is a great movie. It is a great movie and the the subtext and just everything about it was great and it was good to see her get a bit of kudos for it as well. It's a shame that she didn't win the Oscar. I thought she was robbed. I would have loved to have seen her win an Oscar for that role because it was awesome. But that's it. That's a wrap. We are done. We got aliens smacked. We had London holding its breath.
Hmm.
Mariah owning the charts, little Kim getting the bags packed. Taking a toothbrush into prison. Yeah, tripods that came up from the ground that Tom Cruise helped us get away from, we we we read from the Ghetto Gospel and then we watched more Tom Cruise. Hmm.
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So next week, let's have a look at what we've got coming up. I think we might have a hurricane.
Really, more natural disasters bring it on. Yeah. If. Yeah, good. More terrible news. Excellent.
We'll look for some storm, some storm chases. Comic Con would you like to talk about Comic Con? I think.
Hmm.
You like Comic Con? Yeah, it's starting to grow. In popularity around.
Wedding Crashers premieres.
This crowd? Ohh, Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn doing their whole stick that yeah, everyone loved those movies, didn't they?
An appointment of interest. What's an appointment? We had an election of interest. An appointment of intent.
An. Of interest.
You got.
Appointed.
Ohh it's something to do with sport. Don't worry about that. And then I think something to do with Harry Potter if my maths is correct, but that might be the week after. So.
Harry Potter and the.
If it's not next week. It'll be the week after.
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