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Pon de Replay: the birth of bad girl Riri

• Joe and Mel • Season 5 • Episode 27

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Rewind to 24 July 2005 to 30 July 2005
This week in 2005, Rihanna made her Diwali riddim-fuelled debut, Hulk Hogan became the ultimate helicopter dad and Birmingham took a surprise spin on the tornado ride. We also hit Splendour just as it pivoted to electro and watched Canadian scientists crush Bigfoot dreams with one tuft of bison hair.

🌪️ Birmingham gets twistered. A rare urban tornado tears through England’s second city, tossing trees, ripping roofs and causing £40 million in damage. The miracle? Zero deaths. The mess? Immense.

👣 Bigfoot? more like big buffa.
Canadian scientists crush cryptid hearts after testing some mysterious Sasquatch hair… and finding it belonged to a common bison. Cue sighs across the Yukon.

🎶 Pon de riddim. Rihanna begs the DJ to replay her debut banger and the world listens. Dancehall meets flip phone and suddenly everyone's winding to Diwali riddim.

🎸 Splendour goes synthetic. Byron’s beloved mudfest leans into synths as Moby headlines Splendour, with Bloc Party, QOTSA and Sarah Blasko rounding out one of its most eclectic years.

📺 Hulk knows best, allegedly. Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan becomes reality TV’s most overprotective dad. Tracking Brooke’s dating life and Nick’s drifting dreams? Just another day in the ring-shaped household.

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Studies. 

July 2005. 

Hey, what you doing? This is a talk. 

Show it's an ice breaker. Don't judge me. 

20. 

Yet this is bananas. 

You will come. 

My question is who approved that? 

Do you see where this is going? Not real. 

Ohh hey, welcome to T -, 20, the podcast where we rewind exactly 20 years and dive head first into the music mayhem and mildly cursed pop culture of the mid 2000s each and every week we do it all the time. We flip open the Motorola razor of time. We sift through the headlines all the chart toppers, the TV tantrums, and we relive those moments that made us say. 

What? 

Even then. Yes, we do with your host Joe and Mel. Hello. 

Mel. Hello. I've got an apology to make. 

Ohh this will be your first. 

We're. We're rewinding to 24 to 30 July. My weeks have been a bit off. Yeah, I had the wrong dates. I. 

He had a bit of slippy. Yeah, bit of a bit of a rift in the time, space-time continuum. 

Think for the. Last. The last. Yeah, the last two weeks, they were a little bit out of whack by a couple. 

Hmm. 

Of days but. We're back. We're we're back on track. We're back on tracks. 

That's unfortunate. You've realigned the calendar and the dates, you've realigned your dates. 

Planets, the planets and the stars are aligning, and I can confirm 24 to 30 July. Is what we're looking at. 

People who saw the 130 mile an hour tornado twist around the suburbs, shredding, uprooting and destroying almost everything in its path spoke today of their panic and their fear. 

Ohh, that's a bit scary, but I mean it's in Birmingham, which is the birth place of Black Sabbath. So I don't know what could be more scary than Black Sabbath. Yes, a big tornado. We'll talk about that. Did a lot of damage as well. 

Next one to be honest. 

Now turn it down. I'm too. 

Old Rihanna has arrived. She's entered the chat, the big debut from Rihanna. 

I see. 

Are you sure? We are your dates aligned for this. You gotta make sure your dates are aligned. Especially just you when you talk about Rihanna's dates. 

They are correctly. Her first appearance in the top five. 

We're here in the heart of Bigfoot country at Norway house, northern Manitoba. Tim, there could be 100 Bigfoot creatures hiding in those trees, no doubt about. 

It any sign of of any one of them? 

Not yet, but I've had tremendous response from the locals. One man has promised to show us a patch of Bigfoot. Here. 

Ohh, a patch of Bigfoot hair. I am so excited that we have a Bigfoot story this week on T -, 20. 

Yeah, some hair testing going on in Canada. 

Right for Bigfoot. 

To be honest, I would have thought maybe Florida, maybe a Florida man attacked by Bigfoot, but they're more likely heavy. 

I I think I think Florida is so crazy. They don't need mythical creatures to be honest with you. 

I do enjoy the Florida men. Articles do you? Yes. 

Alright. Yes, those things. There's always something hectic going on there. I. 

They often read like something out of the NT news, actually. 

Don't know, right? Is it proximity to the Bermuda Triangle or something like that? Has it got something to do with that I don't know. 

In the water, lots of full moons. 

Yeah, it's it's somewhere perfectly aligned with Earth magnetics. I don't know. I'm trying to look for science and we don't do science here. Well, we get information elsewhere for that. 

But have you done that thing where you you Google Florida man and then you enter your birthday and you just see what comes up. So you say Florida man, and then you do the month. So say your birthday was this week, you'd go July. Yeah, 24. And you see what Google spits out. 

Right. Do you know what I've I've I've actually never done that. I've never done that well. I mean, yes, what I mean, what great material. What a great. What a the perfect opportunity. I I can. I put my hand. I'm. I'm pulling my books out now. I put my hand on my heart and say I've never actually. 

You've. Florida manned yourself. I think it's time. Come on, get your goods out. 

Done it. So you type in Florida. Oh man. And then your date of birth, which I'm not gonna say, is it do you do the year or? Just the date. 

No, just stay. You go month dates. 

Just the date. Ohh OK you go month date. Alright, hang on, we'll just wait a moment please. While the old man deals with the. I'm just playing on my iPad. 

Yes. Ohh, you're used to putting the the number first. Are you using this? 

Ohh no, it's the iPad. I'm used to just playing mahjong on it. Because I'm old. No, I'm joking. OK, so Florida man and my date. But my date of birth. My birth date? Yeah. Month date. Yes, that's what I've got. My dates are aligned. Unlike yours. OK, search. 

No, your months, your month, month dates. Enter enter. 

Your search. 

So what happens now? 

Now you read what your Florida man was doing. 

Which is it? Just the first one that shows up? Or is it? 

On your birthday. Any of them. Well, let's go. The first one, what did you do? 

Yes. 

Florida man deals with snake on windshield week after chicken took ride on hood of. 

Truck. That's pretty good. There's a chicken and a snake. Yes, on. 

Let's. 

His car. Ohh well. 

Apparently that's a great Florida man. Let's see what I. 

Get do it. OK. Yeah, sure. You do yours now. So Florida man and. Yours. 

Florida man breaks into Woman's House sits on her couch and makes unusual, and it's got dot dot dots and I'm going. To click on it. 

Ohh no. Are you sure? Could be a scam. Could be a Florida man scam. 

Makes unusual requests. Now I'm going to. 

Oh, well, now you gotta read the article. It's clickbait. You got clickbaited. That's not. That's decent thing. 

Have to read what the request was. Isn't it into the woman's house, sat on her couch? She didn't try to commit any crimes while inside, but he did ask for water and something to smoke. 

Oh, oh, something to smoke? Like what? Like a ham or a brisket. 

Something just a minute. 

How bizarre. 

The next one's good Southwest Florida man dressed as Spiderman, stole credit cards inside grocery store. 

What? 

That is good, that is good. Spiderman. He does whatever a spider can after all. I've got another one here. Naked Florida. Man starts house fire after baking cookies on George Foreman Grill. 

Ohh dear, that's not a. 

Yeah. 

Good ad for the George Foreman. 

Yeah. Well, they're very fatty and the George Foreman Grill, obviously, you know, melts the fat away. 

Girl. Why was he cooking naked? That's dangerous. 

Yes. Well, yes, and cookies as well. I mean nothing says party time like a nude cookie baking session in the old George Foreman Grill. 

What is going on in Florida? 

I don't know if this is going on in Florida, but it's the hatches, matches and. 

Dispatches clue. Ohh definitely. It's huge in Florida. 

OK. 

Yeah. Well, there I imagine there's a lot of dispatches in Florida and hatches. They just keep bringing me. 

Involving snakes and naked cooking. Very dangerous bring you on Doug very quickly. 

They keep breeding. Well, it's the naked cooking and the snakes and the chickens. I mean, I think that's the thing. They probably there's like, very high population there because they just, they're living on the edge all the time. So they that that natural urge, those endorphins kick in and they just need to keep breeding, which is which brings us to this part anyway. Somebody who was. Who is this a birthday this week? It's just a birthday, not someone who was born. We couldn't find any sort of really significant thing. So we just did a birthday. Is that right? 

Birthday, yes. Just a celebrity, no. Well, I did find a birthday, but it was someone who does tick tock and I didn't think you'd know who they were, and it would just make you mad. 

Ah, yeah, that's really is very triggering for me. So I think that's the safe option. Otherwise I could be in the next Florida man story, a celebrity having a birthday. Who said this? 

So we're on the birthday, yes. 

I feel like we got off to a bad start and it's totally my fault. I never got a chance to hear your side of things. Find out what you're like. None of. That can you forgive me? 

Ohh, that sounded quite southern. That that accent there. We'll find out who at the end of. 

Hmm. Love. 

The show. 

28th of July 2005 we have a tornado touching down in England of all places. 

It just doesn't strike me as well as somewhere where a tornado would hit, but lo and behold. 

29. 

On that day, it did. 

In the afternoon, at around 2:30, estimated at F2T6 on the Fujita or the Toro scale, depending on which scale you follow basically means wind speeds of up to around 150 mph or 200. And 50 kilometres per hour. 

So that is that is. 

That that's not very. I mean that's it's still a a significant tornado, but it's not like a it really would, wouldn't it? Yes. 

Blow your blow your umbrella inside out. Blow your hat off. It sounds like a lot. 

Yes, it does turn your umbrella inside. But make your to pay. Fly off perhaps. 

Yeah, only lasted a few minutes, but a significant path of destruction was left. 

This is the moment the tornado hit and this is what it felt like to be in its direct path. A cameraman and his crew pinned to the ground as the 130 mile an hour. Winds swirled all around them. From the air, the damage is mind boggling. In street after St. houses with their roofs ripped off, whole terraces completely uninhabitable, and parks where there's hardly a tree left standing. So what caused it all? We asked the expert. 

A contrast between cold air coming in from the north and warm, humid air coming up from the South. That produced a lot of heavy rain and some very localised, very severe thunderstorms. There it is you can just pick it out over Birmingham. It's within the thunderstorm that the air starts to rotate and tornadoes can be. 

The clean up is expected to take a good few weeks. 19 people were injured yesterday. The miracle that underneath all this destruction, no one was killed, Romilly weeks ITV News. 

Thanks romilly. That is interesting because I don't think it was a. It was certainly not a precedented thing. It was I think they call it unprecedented. Yes. Yeah. Very unprecedented to have a tornado in Birmingham and. 

No. Times. 

Hmm. 

As a consequence, I think that's why there was so much damage, because the buildings just aren't built to withstand tornadoes, cause they don't usually have them. It's not every day that you get hit by a tornado in Birmingham. Hmm. 

Hi. No, quite rare travelled around 7 kilometres or 4.3 miles through densely populated areas in the South West to the North East of the city, impacting Sparkbrook Moseley and Kings Heath area. 

MMM. 

Years. They're not unheard of. They are rare, but they're not unheard of. But. 

Dude, you got a bit blowy in King Keith. You know, just very quickly the when they did the the news report before, it was like. And you could hear all the wind blowing that just sounded like somebody's holiday video. Really, you know? Oh, it's still with the video camera and no wind sock. It's like, oh, well, just go out. 

Yeah. On the cruise, on a cruise ship, zooming in and zooming out. 

On the balcony in films. 

Yes. 

It did actually. 

Yeah, that's that's all I thought it was like, that's not a tornado. That's just. 

A holiday? They're usually weak and short lived, but one of this intensity and impact was very unusual, particularly in. 

Hmm. 

Yes. As they mentioned, one of the strongest ones to hit the area in recorded history, over 1000 trees were uprooted. Over 1000 properties were damaged, including 39 buildings with severe damage. 

So you don't want all those upper rootings in kings Heath? That's just no good, no? 

No, no. Estimated cost of damage was around ÂŁ40 million. As you heard there, nobody died, which was good. We had a few people injured, one seriously, but they were OK in the. 

Yeah. 

Hmm. 

End. So that's good. 

Well, Birmingham's a tough place. Like it's the birth place of. Black Sabbath but and. That's the thing. When they say ÂŁ40 million worth of damage, I don't know that Birmingham's the most wealthy of cities either, you know, so it obviously did cause a few problems. So and like they were saying it was in those thunderstorms with all the unstable air masses where the the, the the. 

Don't. 

What the cold meets and it starts swirling. Ground. But it's I did not know this. I did not know this cause. I'm like, you know, good. They don't have tornadoes in the United Kingdom, but it does actually have one of the highest numbers of tornadoes per area in the world. They're just a lot weaker, a lot weaker. 

Umm. 

And because it was so unprecedented. 

Hmm. 

There was a lot of video. Well, the video captured by amateur storm chasers, which we love. 

Oh. 

We do. 

OK, now for some damage. 

That was a massive car guided on flying towards them at one stage. I think he asked. He said to one of them, he's like, I hope. You've got a jacket on. Very sensible, very sensible. 

Yeah, it's very practical. It's Birmingham they used to, you know, wet weather but not windy weather, I don't know. Anyway, let's go to something that's quite thrilling over in the Yukon territory in Canada. 

Ohh. 

Hmm, what's all that about? Yes, it's all about somebody seeing a large, hairy ape like creature crashing through the woods and leaving behind big footprints as well as little Tufts. Of course, brown hair. 

Yes, a guy by the name of Bobby Clark, he operates ferries in Manitoba. Hmm. And. He was ferrying some people around. Yeah, I believe he went to the bathroom for a break and then claimed to have spotted and filmed what he believed to be a Bigfoot, AKA Sasquatch. 

So he he is. He is the guy. 

Way that got the footage the. The footage the the footage that everyone has seen that the the If you think of the classic blurry Bigfoot video, it's this one, it's it's Harry's video. 

Hmm. 

Walking along the shore of the river. 

Was it Harry? No. Sorry, it's bobby's. It's Bobby's video. 

It's Bobby. Bobby's video yes. And. And he was walking well. Sasquatch, not Bobby. He was walking on the shore of the Nelson River and it got a lot of media attention. As you said. Right across Canada, right across the world. 

No. You know where Bobby was? He was in the water. 

The air outside was humid. I guess you can see kind of a. Calm, slimy feeling. I went straight up to the old house. I come out and I just had this very strange feeling. Like someone is looking at you. So I started proceeding to walk down or walking away from the photos and I was looking around. And. And they looked across the river and just seen this little figure. So I ran for my camera and I came back here and I leaned up against the outhouse. I tried to keep it steady, but yeah, no can do. I was wondering what this person was. So I tried zooming on it. The trees were in the way. And. It kind of surprised me, I guess because I started thinking in my mind. Hey, this is this is pretty big and then pull my head and whatever it is. And then the movement of the arms and everything started getting to me. So I started getting nervous, shaking, and then one stopped to turn to look at me. That's when I, you know, like I froze and I turned my camera off and. What did they just capture on on filming? 

Hmm. What indeed, Bobby? What indeed? 

Bobby took a dump and then catch. 

I think he was just feeling a bit. 

It because I'm a. 

Light headed. 

I was. Gonna say I. Often get a bit delirious after a. 

Yes, that had a bit too much poutine the night before. All those cheese curds and carbohydrates just going through the system and. 

Good. Number two, yeah, yeah. Like the nightmares? Yeah. When you. Have too much cheese. 

Yeah, see. And he did see, he said at the start it was kind of a cold and clammy kind of warning. I reckon he's just got the poutine sweats and then he walked up to the outhouse and he's felt a bit like, you know, yeah, got the Jelly legs afterwards, probably sitting down for. 

They're the same. 

So long, you know, your legs go numb. It never happens when you spend too much time on the toilet, your legs go numb. And then you basically nearly fall back over again. Yes. And that's the then he and he reckons somewhere amongst all of that chaos, he filmed the Bigfoot as well. 

You're hilarious. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So that's not all the time when you stand up too quickly. Yeah. Again. I saw the. Footage. 

Hmm. Oh, it's quite impressive. No, it's not. 

It it looks like a blurry spot in the distance and looks like someone who's just a bit drunk stumbling around. Yeah, but the residents backed him up. They they believed Bobby and they they found the they found the hair, they went searching for the Bigfoot along the Nelson River. And they found strands of hair. 

In a in a gorilla suit. Hmm. Did. Found. The hair. 

Letters. 

In the same area where Bobby filmed him? Yep. And so they're like, well, let's get these tested. They collected them up and sent them off for. 

That's right. 

DNA tests. They've got the wildlife geneticists onto it. 

Yes, David Coltman from the University of Alberta, he's like, yeah, well, I'm in. I'll do some DNA testing. No problem. 

Send it to me. Send that tuft. Curly hair to me. 

Ohh gosh, you never pick. 

Hmm. 

Tufts of hair that he ended up extracting mitochondrial DNA from the follicles to compare against known local wildlife, which is there's moose spice and, well, he needed to compare. So we need to see what the DNA structure was. So he had other hair samples. 

You just pick up tough for parent regardless, no. 

Hmm. 

Ohh, so it's just like a moose or something, yes. Rise. 

That he could compare sasquatches hair to. 

Yes. And I guess I guess he'd be like, well, if this doesn't match with those things, well, aren't we in for a treat? Yes. 

To figure out. Then what is it? Yes. Then then you know I've got a new hair. Sample of the. 

Sasquatch, there's a spoiler coming up here, I can tell. 

Yeah, the analysis showed it didn't belong to a Sasquatch or an unknown primate, rather a common bison. OK, Buffalo. It's a shame. It's a shame he concluded that it was from a bison. No evidence of Sasquatch DNA. But the locals were very disappointed. And they felt that maybe their hair was switched. 

A. Well this. Ohh, they might have switched. 

It well, yes. I mean this would. 

Very good. 

David didn't wanna deal. With the truth. So he switched the hair. 

Because they probably think this is gonna be great for tourism, we can make some money here. 

Where it's David's like, don't open. That can of worms. 

And then and that and that guy has just shattered a with his findings saying it's bison hair in one fell swoop has destroyed a local economy. 

They would have all been standing there waiting for the announcements. It's kind of like a gender reveal, wasn't it? Yeah. Sasquatch or not. 

They would have had T-shirts ready to be printed and then? Come on. The Sasquatch Nature walk tours. Bring your cameras like you. Could you imagine? 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the merchandise, the Bigfoot. Slippers that would be great. Big foot slippers. 

Well, even though it did create a bit of a stir, Bigfoot slippers would be very good. I have to say yes, very nice. 

Perfect. Yes. And then have little things on the bottom. So when you stepped outside in the steps in the sand, it left. 

Claws on the ends. 

Little Prince. Yeah, grapes. 

Ohh, see. And that's just gonna confuse so many people, isn't it, M? Yeah. Well, even though they they debunked this, there was still a lot of interest. Just based on the video alone, so very people got very excited with the whole Sasquatch myth. 

Yes. 

After that, and particularly around Manitoba and British Columbia, where sightings happened a lot more often, funnily enough for the the you can hear the hysteria in the news and yeah, so there's obviously people were wanting to believe. 

Well, it would be a lot easier these days if you found what you thought was Sasquatch hair cause you could just send it off to one of those things that tests what your dog breed is. Couldn't you put it in an envelope and send it off? 

Yes, you keep just say ohh no it was. A sorry, it was a Labrador. Well, I mean it's same deal. It just, yes, you're right. Obviously you can do it a lot easier. You can DIY it. It's like the like the whole bowel cancer screening kid at home you can do that in the comfort of your own home as well. You can send the fur off to find out where the furr's from. It's just I mean it's a this is these are this is how far we have. 

Hmm. 

That's handy. 

Dumb. Yeah. In the last two decades since 2005. 

Is the Sasquatch the same as the yowie? Are they saying the same kind? 

Not really, not really. I guess it's it's our version of the yawei. So but not because there's no documented images of it like the Yao. He's got a a few other things attached to it, like, well, no. See, it's. Yeah. It's like you have this like, the Yai or the Bunny. 

Of thing. 

Hmm. Why does it? 

What's it got? 

Whatever. And are they the same creature and? 

What about the snowman one? 

The the Yeti, the abominable snowman? I think they're all related. I do. I think they're all. 

Yeah, that's so that's. Yeah, they'd all have. The same well, maybe their hair would all come back with the same kind of DNA. 

Same DNA. Yes, they could all put it in an envelope and so. Put it off. Don't get it confused with their scats when they're screening to find out if they've got, you know. 

You're all related. Yeah. So then they're like, oh, we can't. We can't, mate, because we're related. 

Yes, you know though, I mean there has been a resurgence thanks to the magic of AI because we've got these Bigfoot vlogs that have been trending. If you go on to like TikTok or people have been using AI to create these Bigfoot vlogs. So they've obviously done some kind of prompt into AI and it's generated the creature and then giving it a voice over or. 

What? 

Ohh it's in it. Ohh. 

And it's it's it's it's Sasquatch with these little GoPro webcam having a chat to everyone and launching his own blog and they've been wildly successful and gone viral. And I went down a rabbit hole of them. They are absolutely hilarious. 

Bigfoot here. This is my first blog on this channel. I just want to introduce myself and say hey, alright, so my cousin Ralph just sent me this box of mushroom. Said it would open my mind, whatever that means. 

This tree is my only friend right now. Dude, it knows things. Day I'm gonna be trying ozempic. I don't even know what the IT is, but a fan sent it to me as a gift. Yo, boys. What the actual. What did I do? I look like a malnourished Chewbacca. I had one mother. Burrito Chipotle must have laced this ***** with laxatives because I'm about to start World War three with this nuclear bomb. I thought it was a leaf. I just wiped my *** with Poison Ivy. My *** feels like a victim of a Diddy party send. Help chat. Today we're on O block and these nice gentlemen said they're gonna swish cheese meat. I think that means food. Or. Something chat. Swiss cheese did not mean food. I'm running for my life right now. I thought they meant a sandwich, not ******* bullets. 

And so it goes. This is there's thousands of them, and because I could generate it, they're just it's. They just. 

It's nice to have a Seth watch his perspective on life isn't. 

It's it's a bit more refreshing than some of the other rubbish content that you see on those platforms. Yes, actually better than stuff that has been created by humans. So you know, I welcome this. I welcome our robotic overlords. 

It it's good. 

Better than other People's Day on. The plate. Charts, music. Here we go. 24 to 30 July. OK. On to another creature. #1 here in Australia. Crazy frog. 

That's, that is enough. That is, I let that go on for far too long. Then I was like, I'll have a sip of my beer, and then I was like, ohh, this is really annoying. Yes, I'm gonna drown. 

No speak it out so I can press. Stop. UK is still James Blunt. You're beautiful. 

You're beautiful. 

Thanks. You're not gonna let that go on either. No. Alright. Let's. 

It is better than crazy frog, but no. 

Let's go across to the US. The top five sounded like this. 

Like me, like me, like me. 

That girl ain't no. 

I was just looking at the show notes then and I because I was a little bit ahead of you when I was getting everything together and I I've just noticed the little extra bit you've put in to get some. Off which I haven't. 

Got. I knew that you wouldn't get. That. 

You set me up there, I reckon. 

What do you think I just? Put that in. There then did not. No, I didn't, no. 

Yeah, it's a stitch up. No, I don't think you just put it in there then, but I, yes. Anyway, I'll. 

It's very important context. 

Well, I'll, I'll, I'll. I'll make sure the post production genius that I am that I am put that in there. Sorry about that. 

Hmm. 

OK. Great, because it's we need to illustrate a point that we're going to make. 

OK, well, well, what point would that? Let's go over the charts 1st and then we'll get to the point. 

Will we, do we? 

Ever get to the point on this show? I don't think so, actually anyway, alright. 

Probably not, no, I don't think we can commit. To that don't **** with my heart #5, don't you? 

I try not to. I I feel like I did a little bit, don't you? Yes. 

#4 little back there #3 Pondy replay number two. Number one, we belong together. Actually a line in the intro, a line again in the intro, I said that Rihanna's like stormed into the charts but she was in there last week. They're talking about it this week because I didn't want. I wouldn't want to use up all my material. 

Uh-huh. 

Mariah. What? What did you do now? Nice. You did this last week and you said we talked about it this week. Cause was sorry about something last week. But then. But then if we if we just to give you a bit of an insight behind the. Means it's usually two weeks between record and we would do a couple of episodes back-to-back, and then we're a few weeks forward in time as well. And with all the other. 

Yeah, I don't remember what happened 2 weeks ago. 

That goes on in our lives. You tend to forget what was discussed in the podcast. 

Yes. So I take that back and walk that back about her and two charts because she's in the charts last week. Sorry. 

Don't worry about it. Ohh, never mind. Well, she's storming into our charts this week. 

She still me into the discussion. This week, because we've got a space. 

Yes, the chat. Rihanna has entered the chat. 

For her this. Week. 

She has. The single pondy replay that officially launched her into global pop star it's the lead single from her debut album at Music of The Sun. That one? That one, umm, the vibe. It's dancehall infused with reggae and R&B, and the title is derived from a version of Creole which translates to play it again. So she's. 

Yes. I think it's like Baja and Creole. I was in the Baja. I think that's how you pronounce it. 

Like Baja men. 

Yeah, except it's BA JA, so it's not bar jar. 

Who let the dogs out? 

I'm sure it's Baja if I'm trying to sound exotic, I'll I'll. 

Oh. 

Like the bar jar mix, that's delicious and the Barger mix. 

Yeah, yeah. Down in the Baja. Umm, the Baja mix, that's bhuja mix that's it's got a. There's a H in there, booja. 

Ohh, it was Barger. Was Barger, like Barger booger? 

BHU JA as opposed to BA JA which is haha not buja. 

Boogie. OK, nothing like it then, but it translates translates to play it again and it's a call to the DJ to crank up a song, play it again please. 

Hmm. 

Uh-huh. 

Diwali rhythm, we've spoken about this before. 

Ohh the show the Paula. Let's busy La La La La La La la that one. 

Yes. Well, no, Sean. Paul didn't create. It was created by a Jamaican producer by the name of Steven Lenky Marsden in 2002. 

Steven Lanky Boston in 2002. 

It's. 

No, it's the. Clapping rhythm. Yes. And the percussive group. And So what you. 

I'm just trying to make up for the fact that I didn't source the production elements. I'm trying to give you some context, you don't need it. You've got me. Shake that thing, Miss Hella hella. Shake. Dad. Ding. Miss Bubba. Bubba chick. Dad, Ding, Geordie and Rebecca. 

What you're what you're meant to have here is the real Sean Paul. With get busy. You're gonna do the clapping. OK, what about luminae? About Lumity never leave you. 

Ohh I can't remember that one. 

Ohh. Ohh. 

Ta ta, titi, ta, titi, titi. Ta. Ta. Ohh. See. 

I. 

Another song I. Can't remember what it is now. 

At least we won't get the copyright warnings that we don't we do now. There's no way the boxes that sound exactly actually, we probably will. The box will be like that was so close to the original, like we're gonna ping you for that. 

Maybe no. When are you gonna slow? Rihanna's gonna sue, Rihanna's gonna sue cause you're sampled pondy. 

Yeah. It's gonna be like, get busy. Come over to the channel and try to sue me. Lee, Anna and Sean Paul. 

Replay it's about. Jody and Rebecca. That's all we had to say about Rihanna because. 

It's probably for the best. Apologies. All right. Do you want me to put him in there? I don't think I need to now, honestly. 

We were supposed to play some songs, but you know great. No. OK, alright. Yeah. Music news. OK are you? 

That thought that was really good. 

You're gonna recreate. 

Well, probably not. It's a festival I love. I I actually, I don't hate music festivals. If there's good line ups and stuff, but I don't. It's the. Of it like the. 

They're too long, too long. It's smelly, smelly, sweaty sunburn. Expensive beer. 

They can be, they can be. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's if it's, if they're, if they're well organised, they're great. If they're poorly organised, they're bad. Yeah, yeah. Lining up for poor to lose for long amounts of time, not enough food. For example. They there's they're they're. They're either very well organised and go very well or there or a complete disaster. There's no middle ground with music. 

Your shoes get uncomfortable. Portaloos ohh portaloos. 9/9. 

First of all, I don't. See, but this one was I I believe very. Popular, especially amongst the Triple J crowd, especially amongst the Triple J crowd in Australia, we're talking about splendour of the grass, splendour of the grass. 

This one was. OK, back at this point in time. Well, your your grass is splendid. Where did you get it? 

Where's my boom? Honestly, Jesus Christ. We're talking about splendor in the grass splendor, in the grass splendor of. 

The grass? Yeah. You and your kids going out to the splendor of the grass and smoking your marijuana and taking your disco biscuits. 

Well, it is in Byron Bay. It's just down the road from Nimbin. 

Yes, so. Exactly. 

So who knows? 

It's 100%. 

23rd to 24th of July 2004 was the the splendour in the grass. 

Splinter. In the grass. 

Pivotal moment in the evolution of the festival? Actually, it was the first one to feature an electronic artist by the name of 1 Moby headliner. More diverse lineup. 

Ohh Moby. Oh, see, that's just it's just a lame headliner for a music fest. It's we're going to closeout the day with a DJ. 

You know the fan of mine? You know, like maybe. 

I just I it's not that it doesn't matter if I like electronic music or not. I'm just thinking, you know, live environment. 

Problem with modeling. 

Like want. 

Do you wanna do you? 

There's nothing to see. There's nothing to see. 

Wanna instrument for me? 

They're just, they're just spinning discs. They're just playing stuff. 

I watch, I watch DJ's well, in fact, that that thing that you're supposed to get us with her. That was a DJ I watched DJ's doing things on TikTok all the time and I'm mesmerized. 

I did. I guess my ohh by the other I guess up close when you could see it up close, yes. 

And they do. They they do the mixing and then they play all of the the dance hall. Yes. Diwali ribbon rhythm songs, rhythms in the grass. 

Yeah, rhythms. Yeah, that get the the the in the grass with the splendour of the. Yeah, I know. I just you're right. I I just kind of reverted back to my 2005 self a little bit there. I just I I do appreciate the the craft. 

I love watching. It. Wow. Yeah, no. 

Of deejaying, I just find that when you're in a festival environment where there's thousands of big field of people and there's a massive stage and they are just sitting behind a desk, hmm, you know, that doesn't appeal to me too much. And also the fact that this scrawny, pasty, skinny, little vegan guy like Moby. 

Hmm. 

OK. 

I mean, Natalie Portman doesn't like him, so I don't either. That's it. Why? 

Doesn't she like him? 

Ohh, I think she I think she went out with him for a time and then I think he said some stuff in his autobiography about her, which was actually wildly inaccurate. And she called him on it and it was quite embarrassing for me. 

Didn't know that stirring. 

Yes, and and also you could be confused too with the DJ with the name of Moby in Australia. Moby. Ohh, do you take requests? Can you play the grease Megamix, please? Ohh the chicken dance. Maybe Nutbush maybe Nutbush. Just this. 

The chicken dance. And the macarena? Ohh, definitely the Nutbush Quentin is. 

Yep, Yep. And at the end of the night, they just replaced casing and turns the lights on. 

And it was like everyone looks at who they're. 

Mobi disk. 

Dancing the world gone. 

That would actually be great. Good night out. 

Queens of the Stone Age also performed at Splendor. 

Ohh yes they did. They were one of them. They should have headlined it really. This is them. They're playing the lost art of keeping a secret. 

In the grass. 

Can I? 

It's a bit messy, bit messy, but I mean it's, you know, it's a bootleg recording. It's not bad. They would have been good. I would have liked to have seen them there. I don't know the other. 

Ones I don't know, Ryan Adams, how do you feel about Ryan Adams and what's his song? 

Indifferent, indifferent. I I can't tell you. 

I always thought of Brian Adams when they back announced Ryan Adams. 

It's like Team New Brian Adams. 

It was something. It was something like it. It wasn't. You are amazing. But it was something like that. Like you. Yeah, I know. But it was something like. 

No, that was Alex Lloyd. 

That. 

Was it? Yeah. 

I'm going to Google it while. You read out. 

Yeah. Then they had block party, which was that British indie rock band that got them because that's that post punk kind of revival stuff. Sarah Blasko was there doing all of the indie pop stuff. It was a very Triple J. 

The other rooms. 

A crowd for this, the Finn brothers, Neil and Tim Finn, performing a mix of solo and collaborative work. So you would have some split ends songs there I reckon maybe some crowded house tunes as well. Scribe, do you remember scribe the new? 

Right. 

Zealand rapper Ohh. 

Rapper yes. 

How many did they? Did did they? I've I've gotta stop this week. I don't know why I'm. Feeling so musical? 

No. 

Yes. And then Triple J's blogging on site with real time updates on festival life. How excited. Belongie Fields, Byron Bay, NSW 15,000 people attended. I think the show stopper was the Aussie band. These guys are always so good live and there's they're so simple but they just know how to bring the house down. I'm talking about. The Living End. 

Because we're showing what the wars never won. 

So I had to put a little bit more of that in there because I think they won the crowd participation award on the day that it was such a great performance at Splendor. I I just thought living in completely owned it. They were awesome and they always are live. I find. Now, have you got that Ryan Adams thing? 

I went to Reddit. What are the top 20 ride Adams songs? 

Yes. Have you got? 

20 run to you. Even supper 59. 

Uh, they did. The Bryan Adams. They did all the Bryan Adams. 

I don't know. 

Ohh well. 

New York, NY It says I don't remember. That it something like it was. 

I think that. Was it? I think that was Frank Sinatra. 

Something like amazing. 

Or ohh it doesn't matter, doesn't matter. 

Sweet Carolina. Ohh, my sweet Carolina burning photographs. I see monsters. 

No. Ohh maybe. I don't know. I I look honestly, you really, you're talking to the wrong guy. 

Everybody knows. They played it on the radio. That's the only. Reason. 

Yeah, of course they did. You know, splendour in the grass, though, if we could divert our attention back to that, obviously these days it's gone. It's. Over ohh has. It it's done with well. 

Yes. 

They had. I mean it's it's just declined like around 2022. COVID really ruined them. But then the weather and the the bad weather meant well, they remember they postponed it and then there was the time where it actually passed down rain and everyone went up and they're. 

I was always muddy and. 

Like it's on, it's on, it's on. And then they went. No, it's not. I think we were staying up near at my dad's at the time or near there. 

Do we? 

Yeah. Yeah. When it was cancelled, maybe lost of so. So as a result, nobody trusts any of the organisers. They don't think they're good at communicating and and it really ruined their their credibility and also the fact that the ticket prices got very expensive like. 

Well, they thought they were coaching. 

On 4 to 500 bucks for a weekend pass. 

That's crazy. 

Around 20/22/2024, ticket sales very low and then they cancelled it because the ticket sales were so low last. The competition from other festivals, uncertain line ups, lack of big names, nobody wants to come. They were gonna have in 2024, I think Flume, Mumford and sons and Arcade Fire, but it just didn't get people excited and I think it was just that post COVID stuff. It just broken. So I don't think you'll see them. I mean they they had Kanye West at one stage. They had Coldplay, they had the strokes, but it's, I don't think you're going to see splendour in the grass or splendour on the grass anytime in the foreseeable future. 

Maybe you could start a new one. Called Andrew. 

The splendour on the grass, you know that it be just see a bunch of old men sitting around smoking dope, falling with silly. That sounds like a really great day. 

I mean. 

Why not like after? After the old man is shaking his fist at those muddy, grotty festival goers? It's split their splendour on the grass. Why don't we open the boom box? Because this is the place. This is the safe space to put the boomer complaints out there and and we're talking about the ones where you'll be sitting there and you'll be thinking that you've you've got a bunch of like minded people around you, but some ***** **** will just look over after you've dropped what you think is some wisdom and some knowledge and something a little bit relatable that everyone's gonna go. 

Yes. 

But some ***** **** is gonna go OK, boomer, that's not gonna happen here. That's not gonna happen here. This is your safe space. Not on our watch. Indeed. Mel. Have we got a boom this week? I hope so, because I just went to a lot. 

Not here. Not on our watch. Janelle. 

Of trouble to introduce Janelle. 

Has it? As a game, yes. Hey, sorry I missed your text. I am processing a nonstop 24/7 onslaught of information with the brain designed to eat berries in. A cave. 

Oh. 

That's so true. There's so much stuff and it's it's your screen, it's so bad. 

Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't answer my phone anymore because it's always a scam and I'm scared that if and if I had to say hello, they're gonna steal my voice print and my biometrics and steal everything out of the cloud and all my super and my tax return. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. I've definitely. I've definitely got a story for. For another day, but, but also it's just the the stimulation. And yet there's no stimulation as well. Do you know, like we were sitting out. Remember we're having dinner the other day and I just instinctively pulled my phone out of my pocket. And I was like, I don't even need it. I don't know why I'm doing that. And I've become very conscious of it, which I think is a really good positive first step. 

You do that all the time. 

Hmm. 

It is but. It's become part of your body, effectively like. 

Yes. 

With you sit down, you make yourself comfy on the chair, you put your things down, and then you just slide the phone out. 

Yes. Yes. And it just. It's just not a good look. It's just not a good look. I saw somebody the other day, and it's kind of this sign of devolution, I think where it's like. And this goes back to, like, foraging for berries and hunting and living in a cave. Right. I don't wanna go play with that. Trend's long gone and Pete Evans got crucified for it. So we don't wanna go there. I mean, he just make you wanna boom as well. 

Part of your home. 

Hmm. 

Yeah, it's very tough. 

That there I saw this person and I was sitting down. Their head was like buried in their phone with one hand. They're eating a bacon and egg roll with the other and the roll of fat on their shoulder was almost coming over the back of their head. Like almost like they were. 

Hmm. 

Growing. A shell you know, like they were devolving into a completely different creature that was. 

Ohh OK so. Could see the screen better. Was to block the sun off the screen so you can see your screen better. That's handy. 

Yes, they just have this like hunch, and they weren't necessarily a big person or a small person. Didn't really matter. It was just the fact that their shoulders were so bunched up. 

Well, it's a. 

That that was the higher than the technique. Yes, technic. Exactly. And it there's these these horrific images that people have put up on the Internet of and they've taken photos of people all sitting around looking at their phones, but they've removed the phones and it's just people just staring blankly into the void. And it's kind of what it's turning into. 

Name for it. 

Technic. Yeah. 

Well, I've heard. 

Sorry, I just that's how I feel. I'm with Janelle. 

I've heard someone. I've heard someone say maybe it was Joe Rogan. Umm, I've heard someone say. 

We'll take that with a. 

Grain of salt. Or smelling salts or steroids? Or, I don't know, DMT, DMT. Yes. 

Minnesota, an ice bath, an ice bath and love the nice bath. Do you see what he got? A nice bath. He's undies. Goodness me anyway. 

Hmm. 

Yes, yes, I will have to. You couldn't miss it. I would have sunk the. 

Titanic. I thought he he had an interesting thought. I think it was him. 

Hey. 

I'm going to attribute it to him anyway, OK? And he was saying like, well, think, think about the aliens, right. So think about the the classic picture of the alien. 

Yeah. They were already starting to sound very Joe Rogan. Yes, good. 

But think about what the aliens look like with the head and the really big eyes. And he said, what if they're not actually aliens? They're just people from the future. 

Yes. 

Hmm. 

Oh well. 

And that's how we've devolved with these big eyes to look at all our devices and. 

Yes. 

And we're, you know, we're we're kind of pasty because we're not going outside. And what if that's just someone that's our future. 

Hmm. 

I don't think they're. I don't think that it it is an interesting comment, but based on current technology in the way everyone's sort of bending in the direction, we're all bending and moving in well, aliens tall and elongated and they've got big heads and skinny bodies. 

I thought. Was an interesting comment. Well, they are kinda hunchy the. Looking at, I'm looking at the ones with the. Big eyes. Turner munchie. Yeah. 

Yeah. And they got big heads and skinny bodies. I like the ones that actually gestate inside your body and burst out of your chest. They're my favorite aliens. They're. I do think that we would. We could end up evolving to the point where we get our arms back so that we maybe grow an append. 

No. 

Peach out of the hunch on behind our tech neck, it kind of stretches out and just has a like a phone holder. Exactly. 

Hmm. 

To hold the sign. Just yeah, to. Hold it for. You my little finger gets numb sometimes. And holding my phone it does. I get a little like tingle in my. Yeah, pinky tingle. 

Really. Is it really you get some kind of like? Yeah. What's that? Some some myopathy or something? Is that what? 

That's when I know it's time to put it down. Stop scrolling. Yeah, a little tingle. It's time. Time to put it down and go and eat some berries. 

That's called, I don't know. 

I've just had a thought. I'm still in the. 

Yeah. Ohh yeah, I'm glad we got that out of our. 

Boom thing, sorry. 

System too, yeah. 

I'm still on the boom thing though, with all the information and you're talking about the AI. SAS watch, hmm. Do you think so? Like, let's think about our telephones. We don't answer them anymore because it's like bogus calls. It's a scam. 

Yeah. 

Yeah. 

So when AI takes over, the whole Internet, are we going to just not use the Internet anymore? Is that going to be something we're scared of? We'll have to go somewhere else because we're just not sure if it's real or if. 

Uh-huh. We just won't go there. We'll leave it to them. 

It's. A. Scam. Or if it's AI, do you think it might scare scare us out off the Internet? So then we. 

The the, the, the the AI will become. 

Can't use phones and we can't. Use the Internet. What will we do? We will go and eat berries. 

The AI will become sentient, and the AI will put a native title claim on the Internet, and then we can go back to The Cave. Yes, we can go eat berries, yeah. 

Very soon, maybe this will work well. 

Great. Perfect. Perfect. And we can watch reruns of Hogan knows. 

Best sit down. I could hit you over the head with my club and drag you back there. Now, if you like. Sorry, I I just got into the primitive caveman thing. You're Speaking of caveman. Hogan knows Beth. I mean, if that wasn't a group of bloody sasquatches sitting around, they're just a bunch of shave sasquatches. The hogans, horrible people hideous. 

No. Best yes. Wow. Look, we watched this one this. So this premiered 20 years ago. We did watch this one on VH. 

PayPal. Yeah, look. 

One we I. Enjoyed it? Probably for the first episode, and then you got to know them and. 

Hmm. 

They just weren't nice people. 

The sun annoyed me a lot. 

Nick. Yes. Well, he's been in lots of trouble recently. 

He was just a he was just a. Brat, wasn't he? 

Yes, yes. And he thought he was a great car driver and stuff. And then I think he got done for some DUI's and stuff like that. And Hulk Hogan's turned out to be. Let's see. This is it's. Yeah. Well, the show first. OK. Hulk Hogan, the biggest wrestler of all time, arguably, you know. Well, I think he was the one that really launched wrestling into the stratosphere. 

OK, let me explain the show first before we start pitching too much. 

You decide. 

Right. Like he made wrestling big in the 80s and 90s. He was the biggest thing in wrestling in the 80s and 90s and he. He was everywhere, was on cereal boxes and cartoons, and he was everywhere, action figures Hulk Hogan. And he was the the all round good guy. The good guy, always the good guy for a time. Until he became a bad guy. But that's another story. But it's and so so, Hogan is obviously. 

So he played a goodie. 

Very into continuing his brand, continuing his brand and what better way to continue the brand than jump on board the celeb reality train, which is what he did and then he got the show, Hogan notes that. 

Hmm. Hmm. 

Yo, hogans, let's go. 

Come on bro. Yo, Nick, move it. 

Windows let's do this thing. Where is everybody? Hogan knows best. 

Ohh just. Calm down. OK. 

The title Hogan knows best spoof of the 19. 50s TV series. Father knows best and it just deals with them and their life. And I think the the main the main storylines were often around his daughter Brooke dating and him not liking who she was dating and he'd follow them. 

Ah, right. Yeah. Yes. 

Or he'd try and sabotage it. Or. Put a GPS on the car and see where they were going. Nick was just always whinging. 

Yes. Yeah. And he wanted to be the car racer and the drifter and stuff. And that didn't end very well for him at all. 

Driving cars badly and Linda liked animals, remember? She brought a baby chimp homes and she wanted to adopt it. No, you can't. We don't. 

Ah yes. Yeah, and it was just, it was just you could tell like it was just a ploy for him to try and further his brand into a bigger brand where he could make a lot more money, a la what the osbournes did, I think. But the thing with the osbournes was as much. Aussie was kind of lampooning and stuff on the osbournes and I have mixed emotions about that. The Osbournes were 100% authentic like that show was authentic and it was the first of its kind and this was just a cheap knock off that was put forth with the intention of absolutely increasing the bread pushing Brooks. 

Yeah. 

Yes. 

Pop star career and obviously trying to make Nick into some kind of poster child for car racing and teenage girls. 

Or something. Well, it was originally. Pitched as a show in the lead up to his icon versus Icon match in 2002 to. 

Yes, when he took on the. Rock. 

Michael, he's returned to wrestling. 

That was a great match too, just quietly. 

But he declined at the time because he I think he'd had the surgery on his knees and, you know, things weren't going so great. So he declined the show at in 2002. But then he started noticing things like the Jessica Simpson show. Obviously pop stars that went from TV into music. 

Hmm. 

Yeah. Yes. 

Like Hillary Duff? Yeah. Britney Spears is huge at the time. Yeah. And Brooks wanting to become a singer. So he goes perfect. Perfect. Sure. Let's do the show. I can continue my brand. We can launch Brookies singing career. 

Yes. Yeah. 

So he accepted the show. 

Yeah, and it was just. 

And I think they also had a. Lot of debts. 

Well, yeah, like I I I I mean they they they would certainly they had a lot of debt because they were trying to launch the music career for Brooke and they was just pouring all his money into that thinking that she was gonna be wildly successful and. 

At the time. 

Just I think the only person that really thought Brooke was any good was Hulk, and I mean, that's a nice dad, isn't it? Really? At least he believes he is cute. 

Hmm. Well, you always think that would be kids. Don't. Yeah. Singing's great. That's that's why why we end up with the bloopers on on on idol. 

Yeah, it it this is it. This is difficult for me because when I was a kid I loved Hulk Hogan. He was a big hero. I was a huge fan of the wrestling. And as time has come to pass, there's been a lot of things about him that he has done or said. 

Hmm. 

And continues to like, he's a very delusional dude these days, but continues to say that just alludes to the fact that he is not a nice guy at all. There was the scandal where there was a sex tape that was released. He had, he ended up having an affair on Linda with his, with Linda's best friend. And during that there was a tape that was revealed. And he was talking about how he didn't like his daughter dating a black man. And he said some horrible things about that. And that all went to air and then W WE erased him from history, and then they brought him back and everyone's just had enough of. 

Oh. 

Him there at this right? Now people have just like, just go away, mate. Like we've had enough. Of Hulk. What? What? 

Did what did we think of Brooks Music career? Did it? Did it launch it? Did it? Do what it was. 

Meant to do have you? Well, I don't think so. So you wanna hear where I think they they this is like 200,000. This is what $200,000 has bought the Hogan family. OK this. 

Got a little sample. 

Is how much it costs to do this. 

OK. 

They don't know about. 

Now. 

Breathing. 

They don't know vaping. They don't know what buys. 

Now. 

At the risk of offending anyone who's a fan of pop. Music, it sounds. Like they got the same people that sing that Jennifer Lopez album to do it. 

It really does. The video clip had a dance off, yes. Brooke can't dance. Brooke can't dance. She's trying to have a dance off. And it. 

Brooke can't. 

Yeah. 

Was just it. Was a bit of awkward. She was doing that with. 

She should have wrestled. She would have done well if she'd have wrestled poor wall. Poor Wall, Paul Wall. Not Sean Paul. Poor wall. 

Paul Wall, not Sean Paul, Paul Wall. Paul Wall, no Paul Wall. The show itself they were. I think they were filming another season in 2007. But it got cancelled due to well it. 

Ohh, this is when he had the car crash. 

Cancelled due to a lot of problems, a lot of problems in the family, a lot, but all of them really. 

Not Hulk. Yeah, they were falling apart. The whole family self. Destruct Paul Wall and. 

Brooke. Yeah, that came out. They each one played the crap out of it, but only because that was their show. So it was in their best interest to to promote the song. Then in August 2007, this is the car crash you were talking about with Nick. He was driving a Toyota. 

Yeah. 

That's right. So they want. Cross promote, yes. 

Supra in Florida, and he had a crash. His friends in the car was seriously injured. I think his friend ended up and still is on life support with serious brain injuries. As a result. I think he went to jail for a bit and then his parents bailed him. 

That's horrible. That is horrible. Yeah. 

Yes. 

Out. Yeah. So his family issued a statement, not anything about. You know how horrible it was for the friend, but more we're saddened about the charges against Nick and John wasn't wearing his seat belt, so John's fault. 

Right, right. And this is this is. Right. So so this is where you really you see their true colours and all of a sudden the show goes away after this because that that was your smoking gun. That was like these. They are horrible people. 

Yes. 

You talked about him cheating with one of Linda's friends. He also. 

Yeah. 

You cheated with one of. 

Brookes friends. 

That's right. He ended up being in a. Relationship with yeah. 

At 21 years younger than and then Holt, Christiane, who was a friend of Brooke. 

Yeah. Yeah. 

He was saying, well, you know, the marriage was already ending. We we were kind of separated already and then she was very upset because Brooke then obviously was no longer her friends, as you could imagine. 

Yeah. Right. 

Right, right. 

Then Linda, after filing for divorce in 2007, Linda begins dating Charlie Hill, who was 19 at the time, and Hill went to Brooke and Nick's High School was the year was the year in between Brooke and. 

Yeah. Right. Nick, what? These are the kind of people. 

19. 

That you do what? 

Is it that's against the law? 

Sure. Well, it's it's not, but it it's pretty gross like it's it's very gross, it's just they again, they're just despicable people. They're despicable people that are only interested in fame and fortune and the the thing with them is is without having. And you know all of that promotion or the like not having that, I think protection that the WWE would have given him and the guidance and all of that. I mean let's face it, Vince McMahon, also a very horrible person, OK, but not having that around him and that protection like they just expose themselves and they just you know. 

Hmm. 

This is like a few seasons in, though the show went for a while before it all fell apart. 

Yeah. So it starts in 2005 and then gets cancelled in 2007. So a couple. 

Yes, yes. So they get a few years. 

Of years. 

Out of it, but. 

They did do a spin off called Brook knows. Beth, which focus? 

Hmm. 

On her away from her parents, she removed the parents and we made her go and move in with some roommates. So parents were out of the out of the picture at this stage, that was cancelled the following year. 

Or the redemption story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I reckon VH1 have just come back to them with the bill and they're like, who's gonna who's gonna put this? And they're like, ohh, got a great idea. Brooke knows best. 

These they don't know about. They don't know Davis. They don't know babies. They don't know about it. 

Now. 

They don't know nothing about us, mate. We know far too much about you and your entire family. 

Right hatch match dispatch. 

Probably for the best. Probably good that we're getting close to the end of the show we don't have. Much else except for this. Remember, remember that little thing we did at the start? It's a birthday, a celebrity. Having a birthday. You said this. 

I feel like we got off to a bad start and it's totally my fault. I never got a chance to hear your side of things. Find out what your like. None of that. Can you forgive me? 

It's there's a lot of humility there, a lot of humility in that. If you said Anna Paquin. You would be correct. 

As Suki Sakai. 

Sickies stackhouse. The show True Blood. I love that show. When it first came out in the early 2000s, really enjoyed. 

2 blobs. 

So did I. I've had a thing for vampires for a while. 

It. It was, but it was sexy. Vampires and all. The scars guard. I think a lot of people like the scar star. 

I liked the stars guards. Yeah, because it was so bad. But then he. Kind of had. This little glimmer of good in him and. You're like ohh, I like that bad boy. 

Yes, you're. I hope he's wearing a scarce guard. 

24th of July is the birthday of Anna Paquin. She was born in Canada, raised in Wellington, New Zealand, won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress just 11 years old in the piano. Remember that? 

Uh-huh. Yes, I do. And then and it was interesting transition cause then she went over to True Blood where she saw heaps of pianists. 

And just saw her ***** and that just felt wrong. 

Ohh yeah, that did feel wrong after that. I'm like I can't see the girl from the piano's book. 

Like I I don't think I can. Look, we can't see. Can't see. 

That is a problem that is really a problem. It's you couldn't look, I couldn't look. But she she look, she was she, she was. She is. She's a fantastic act. She's in the X-Men movies as well. She played bro. Yeah. She's kind of the she was really good. 

It was too much. It was. Too much scarce card, however. Very good. That's right. That would have been early. 2000s wouldn't. Hmm. 

It was, and she was very good in that as well. And I think she she was in the sequels as well, 2000 and three 2006. But True Blood I think really was what broke her. Once she'd become older, was once everyone sort of transcended the fact that it was the 11 year old kid from the piano. True Blood was the show that shot her to fame. Shouldn't they broke her in that? Ohh. My goodness then you I think. 

Was she she? 

Ended up marrying the vampire, not the scars scar the bill. Yes, they got married. Yes, Stephen Moyer. Did she? They're married. Well, they're married. When did they get married? I'm trying to remember. 

Bill Bill Compton, the guy that played Bill. 

Oh. 

2010 two bad twins twins in 2012. I think they've been working on movies together. Actually they there was something that they did at premiered at Rain Dance. Bit of light was the movie and she starred in it was called a bit of light and he directed it. Good. 

Hmm. 

The movie was a bit of light. Hmm. Hmm. 

She also helped with producing it as well. 

Oh good. 

Well, so they were married. They've had kids. They're still married, which is lovely. But she's also been dealing with an undisclosed illness that's affected her mobility and speech. And you would have seen her. Yeah, using a cane on red carpet research. Yeah. Yeah. Not not so good. 

Really. 

Really. 

Ohh. 

No, I haven't, but that's terrible. So are they still together though? Is she still well, good. 

They are. Together with the kids. What are their names? Charlie and Poppy, lovely fraternal twins. Fraternal. 

Charlie and pop. Excellent. They they don't have like, the scarce guards eyes. I shouldn't say that. It's very happy birthday. She's a good actor. 

Right. 

Great. 

Right she is. 

Yes. Anyway that's it. That's it for this week. We've you go and put the pop culture DeLorean back in the garage. We've had the Rihanna Dance Hall debut. We've had the tornado in Birmingham, we had the Bigfoot and Bigfoot flogging, which is wonderful. Go and have a look at some of that. It's just a Buffalo that was bad at public relations. 

Now the Bigfoot was good, wasn't it? And if you like what you hear, give us a sneaky follow. Give us a give us a review or some stars. Send us a message. We're on the Instagram and the Facebook and. 

Ah. 

Yeah, do that. Uh-huh. 

Yeah. 

Yeah, it's it's t -, 20 podcast. That's with at t -, 20 podcast. You search for us there. All one word or something to that effect. Can't miss this. Can't miss this. What's happening next week? Anything good? 

Run the things. We're on the tick tock when you. Can be asked. 

Have you got your dates lined up this time? 

My dates. Yes, my dates are perfectly In Sync. 

Ohh well that's a. 

Relief. Ohh. We found a skull. 

Ohh yes, we did find a skull. We did find a skull. We also, I think actually there might be some sponsorship opportunities for the show next week, but I'll get more into that when we when we actually approach that. That's yeah, we're going to we are going to finally sell out that's what we're going to do. We're going to finally sell out we yes sneakers are good. 

In olden days style it wasn't. A Bigfoot. This is slow. Ohh, that sounds good. I'll talk about sneakers as well. Grapes. Grapes. 

Sneakers are good. What else? Or they'll be? I think there's some new new music in the charts and some new movies which will be very. 

Movies. 

Good and. 

I want a book book. A big, big, big book release, it's. Actually in the start. Of the show. So. 

Did you read it? It's a book we did read. Well, that's going to be worth the price of admission in and of itself. Thank you very much for supporting us and your continued support. It means the absolute world to us. We will absolutely see you next week. I hope you have a wonderful one. See you then. 

I did ohh I actually read it. Yes. 

Bye. 

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