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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
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The girl with the dragon tattoo reinvents trauma-core bestsellers
Rewind to 31 July to 6 August 2005
🛑 No smoking on the grid. The EU bans tobacco advertising across borders, sending Formula 1 teams scrambling for cash and leaving Marlboro-branded Ferraris gasping for air.
💀 Skulls just dropped. Scientists in Georgia unearth a 1.8 million-year-old human skull that throws the whole “big brain = better human” theory into chaos.
👟 Three stripes, one flop. Adidas buys Reebok for $3.8 billion in a move to challenge Nike and instead gets a 16-year brand headache. Thanks for the memories, G-Unit sneakers.
💃 Ciara bends physics. Missy Elliott’s “Lose Control” is everywhere, Ciara’s joints appear unhinged and even the music video looks like it was filmed in a neon rave on the moon.
🧬 No island for you. The Island reveals a future where clones are raised for spare parts. Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson bust out, blow stuff up, and question everything.
📺 D-list, A-list energy. Kathy Griffin’s My Life on the D-List debuts — giving us biting Hollywood commentary, gay bar gigs, and the wine-loving legend that is Maggie Griffin.
📚 Cold cases and colder prose. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo lands in Sweden posthumously and kicks off a new wave of grim crime fiction. Cue hackers, murder and way too much Swedish business jargon.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mccreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
31 July 2005.
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20 breaker. Don't judge me. Yeah, this is bananas.
My question is who approved that? Do you see where this is going? Not really.
Ohh, welcome to T -. 20, The Time Machine that you didn't know you. Needed. That's right. Each week we rewind exactly 20 years to get you the headlines. Heart breaks, bangers, box, office smashes, and gloriously chaotic pop culture moments that shakes the mid 2000s. It's not. Rodger, but extra juicy with your extra juicy hosts, Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel.
Just like the tracksuit. Yeah. Juicing, indeed. 31 July to six August 2005 is what we're looking at this week.
Juicy couture.
Indeed, because it wasn't anything else like him then.
It ain't nothing else like him.
Except these.
That's right. That is Samuel L Jackson selling Adidas shoes. Adidas superstars, in fact. Well, Adidas this too, is it Adidas or Adidas? I reckon it's Adidas in the estate.
All right. You never know what he's selling. Adidas I reckon. Or add a hash if you. Buy the the fake stuff from.
The cheap ones, the knock offs anyway they they made a big they made a big acquisition they purchased. We can unpack that a little bit later on as well. They they purchased Reebok and yeah. Yeah. So that was interesting.
The markets and with the. Like it differently? Oh.
Probably Sabre toothed cats killed and fed upon these. Early humans and drag these skeletons into The Cave where they where they were preserved and didn't see light until 1.8 million years later.
1.8 million. Years after being devoured by a Sabre toothed cat.
Hmm.
They're back in the headlines. We'll talk about ancient skulls a little bit later in the show.
Is the decision of very considerable importance for the European Union and the Ministers of Health today have broken the mould?
It's good that they've broken the mould in the European Union ground, breaking mould, breaking whatever you wanna call it. They banned tobacco advertising in the European Union. The Marlboro man was cancelled. People were panicking in the sporting realms. French people very upset, you know, because they they like.
What mould have they broken?
Ohh we do.
Smoking. We love to smoke. I don't know. Smoking seems like such a European thing that might be racist, and if so, I apologise. But you'll find out more about that later too.
Right. We're officially in August now. Yeah. So I think it's time to start getting ready for. Christmas.
Ohh already is it? Do we do that in August? I suppose we do.
Yes, we're on the downhill slope. We've had our Christmas in July. We're getting ready for the real. Deal. Yeah.
Right.
And you gotta start planning the the list of foods could start organising the catering. And I read an interesting thing.
Five months to go.
The other day and it said once you hit midlife, you're assigned a hot luck dish that will then be yours for all eternity.
What do you mean the pot luck one?
Well, potluck, any kind of catering, you're kind of just assigned it. That's your dish. That's the dish that you make. So think about Christmas. My sister-in-law, her Mac and cheese. Incredible. That's her dish.
Potluck. Ohh, and you bring it to the potluck. Fit, right? Yes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's been assigned that permanently. Yeah.
Yes, that's her dish. What's yours? What's your midlife potluck dish? What do you bring when you've gotta bring a plate?
Yeah. Brisket. Brisket and pulled pork. Yeah, BBQ meats BBQ meats is my potluck dish. It's very broad, isn't it really?
It is. It is. You left yourself a lot of scope, haven't you? So if you stuff one up, you can just move on to a different meat. Never mention it again.
I have. I have. And just bring the other Barbie. Well, that's why I usually cook through at once. Cause if one goes bad, at least I'll have another one on standby. Yeah, so not only BBQ meats, but emergency BBQ meats as well. I.
Just in case.
Let's start.
Was trying to think what mine was. Yeah, and I made this rice salad once because the nail lady I went.
To told me this.
Ohh the chicken rice salad.
And I'm I'm actually that's what I'm worried about. This is what I'm thinking about. Cause I was like, what would cause I was like, what's mine. And I was like, maybe it's that rice salad, but I I started to think that maybe people just say that they like it and judging.
I think you should be wired fence.
By your reaction.
I just. I just don't know. Because, sweetie, you said to me, you said to me before we started. You said I've got something to talk about in the you showed. I said surprise me.
I think you just supported the theories.
And I'm just not sure how ready I am to have the just this discussion about the rice salad, the podcast.
I think you just confirmed my fears because my nail lady was telling me about it because I was trying to. I was trying to be healthy and she goes. I've got this perfect. I've got this perfect salad. And it's actually called healthy brown rice salad. Just Google it.
Hello.
We're gonna have a.
Fight. No, I'm not fighting. I'm just laughing.
Anyway, got this healthy salad. Got the brown rice. I just Google Brown rice healthy salad and I made it and I took it to Christmas.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And everyone went.
Yeah. Ohh, that was lovely. Yeah. Yeah.
That's great. That's great. And so I was like, OK. And so then next Christmas, I made double. Yeah. And here when they dish up the leftovers.
Ohh yay leftovers.
You brought the salad again. That's my kids favourite, I was like.
yeah
Ohh not yours and I made double and you know, when they divvy up the leftovers? Yeah. Leftovers were just the brown rice salad.
Yep.
Some bad news about your signature dish melt.
I don't think people. Like listening to.
This you see the dishes a lie.
So now I'm going to get a new signature. Dish, but I don't know how. To make I mean.
That's this is a good that's I think that I think you're in a fortunate position. Don't take this as a bad thing. That's right. You're in a fortunate position. 5 So many people have been tarnished with this. You think about, you know, a sister in law.
We can start it then.
I've got. I've got. Months. To work on a new signature dish.
Probably see. Ohh God. I've gotta do that Mac and cheese. Again, you know you that's got a lot of.
Is that? Effort in it too, she does like.
The world is your oyster. Ohh there's an idea for a signature dish. Ohh, Mel's bringing the oysters. No, but you've you've got the opportunity to.
Egg and everything.
The.
Start a new.
No, no.
Do you know?
My defence. You've got the meat handled. The Mac and cheese is handled. I felt like there needed to be a salad option and I wanted something with a bit of crunch and I wanted something remotely healthy. I thought I thought I was onto something and I did.
There does need to be a salad option.
All right.
Quite like it.
I don't think you. Do I deviated? I deviated one year and I did a broccoli one which was also crunchy and also healthy, and I got there and about three people said I don't like broccoli.
No one hurt. I quite like it.
Hmm.
Yep.
How can you what's wrong with?
Right. That's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think. I don't think they'll really. I don't think they're ready. I. Look, I don't think they're ready for broccoli and a salad. And that's fair cause that is a big jump from side vegetable into salads. It's. Yeah, it's.
Your face that must be your family. Your family's weird. Says salad.
It's not normal, sorry.
Big things happening for broccoli this. It's moving from side vegetable into salad.
Wow. Game changer. So I've got. Yes, I've got about four months to work on a new signage is anyone's got any ideas? Maybe send me, maybe send me some recipes on the Deans on in style so I can come up with my new pot like dish for all eternity.
Ohh my goodness. Yeah, that's a great idea. Please do a new signature dish for Mel. She doesn't do seafood. She no seafood, but. But. But you do, you know? I mean, as we're fast approaching 50, right.
Not safely.
Hmm.
There is very little opportunity to start fresh on anything at this stage in our lives, so I think you're really lucky. I think I'm. I'm jealous actually. Although I'm, I mean, I'm happy with my signature dish, but I am jealous. Just at the fact that you get to have a do over on something.
I know, I know. I feel like I've come too far. I like the salad, though it's healthy. It's rice.
You can still still mix.
To make it's good. Chicks. Rice. It's healthy. That's what rice is, what they serve you.
Good, good, good.
Rice is what they serve you when they don't. Have any other food?
Or when there's a famine. And they drop it out of the sky boy.
Yes, that's right. It's like exactly when you used to remember at school you used to have that day where you do, you'd have the, yes, you need to have you have the starving kid day and they give you a cup of rice and you'd pay $2.00 for it. Yeah, just so you could.
The starving kids. You'd eat what the starving kids ate. You'd have rice.
Cover brass.
You sit there with your eyes and be sad.
That I don't know what that is. That's odd.
Is that how my signature just made?
You feel like a starving child. Yeah. Thank Christ. I've bought some brisket and some pulled pork.
In Africa.
Ah yes, we I should say though it's not. It's not the starving. I think the starving kids is the is the worthwhile cause. Obviously it was the stupid things that they used to make us do.
Ohh yeah no, but that that was a. When school did it and your parents would say, eat your crusts, there's kids starving in Africa. It was just a it was a thing. It was an 80s thing, wasn't it? He was trying to make you feel. Yeah.
In order to it. Yeah. So it's like we'll send that send, send the crust. To them.
Ohh I did say that once and I got in a lot of trouble.
Well, well, I mean, they deserve more than cross. Yes, you know. But that's. I don't think I'm doing myself any favours trying to talk myself out of it. So we'll just move. But just know that the intentions are good. And if you can support the starving kids, please support them. OK, somebody's got to.
Sure.
No. OK, let's move on. Move on. Change the case. Yes, maybe I could send them my salad.
We've got plenty of leftovers after Christmas. You could certainly bag it up. OK, let's do the hatches, hatches and dispatches clue. We'll revisit this at the end of the show. In the hatches, matches and dispatches.
Yes, right. Yes, please.
It's look it normally it's like a it's a birth or a death or a marriage that happened this time 20 years ago. And then sometimes we just there's not much going on. So we just do a birth day at this time is a birthday, a celebrity, having a birthday that said this.
Hmm.
Yeah, there wasn't much going on.
Every character that I've ever played has been inspired by this music and filled by this music. It's in everything that I am. Today we celebrate heavy metal. Together we are going to make this the most epic day in the history of heavy metal. So let's turn this down.
He, he said at the start I thought, he said Mel is in our DNA. You listen, listen, it's just like.
Ohh lovely lovely.
No metal metal. We'll find out who that is. At the end of the show.
31st of July 2005, an advertising ban on tobacco the European Union took a historic step in public health policy, implementing A sweeping ban on tobacco advertising and sponsorship across its EU Member State. It was legislated.
Yes.
Known formally as the tobacco advertising director. Obviously designed to reduce smoking rates, particularly among young people, by severing the powerful promotional ties that tobacco companies had across the media, sports and entertainment at the time.
Yes. So I've gotta grab from the EU Social Affairs Commissioner and I think his name is Patrick Flynn, but it's spelt Padraig. And because I'm quite ignorant as you would have heard from the last yes bit, I I'm not sure, but I I I I think the the pronunciation is Patrick Flynn. Anyway, he was very happy being the EU Social Affairs Commission. This is a big deal.
No.
Is the decision of very considerable importance for the European Union and the Ministers of Health today have broken the mould?
See.
Yes.
And the consequences? The good consequences of what has been achieved today will be seen over the years to come by the many countless millions of European citizens that will benefit from it.
There he they were thrilled. It was a big deal, I mean, but. But and there were a lot of positive impacts from this, of course. Like it it not cross border, tobacco advertising is gone. Sponsorship of any tobacco companies of anything within the European Union gone specifically print ads, newspapers, magazines, journals, anything like that, cross border events and international sporting competitions, which is a really big one. Advertising on radio. Promotional activity via online and digital media and free distribution of tobacco products as a promotional take you, hey, we're in the Black Thunder today and we got cigarettes.
I've never got any free packs.
Of smokes promo smokes.
That would be great. Wouldn't have back in the day back in the day it. Look.
Anyhow, have a Winfield 20 fives.
And just one second, so I'll I'll tell. Well, careful. Just be careful with your brands because I've actually managed to nab a sponsor for the podcast. I think we're the final frontier. So I just want to pause for a message from one of our sponsors.
Yeah.
Hmm.
What could be more refreshing than Newport Menthol cigarettes? Newport refreshes while you smoke because only Newport has a fine white philtre, menthol and mint, and a blend of great tasting tobaccos. Clean, cool pleasure you won't find in any other cigarette. Newport smokes fresh.
You don't even have to brush your teeth anymore.
Yeah, exactly. That's what menthols are. Great. They're basically.
Handy. Handy. Wake up. Have a menthol. You ready to go? Ready to pash?
They're basically a toothbrush and a smoky all-in-one. So these measures applied to any commercial communications that extended across the European Union borders, making it one of the the most ambitious anti smoking laws in the world. At the time we've we're talking about 25.
On.
Member States here, Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, etc, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, all of them, UK, all of them, and that's where the and the sporting industry was concerned. It was gonna bring them to their knees.
Hmm.
And do we do? We still do that over here, then do we still have the Winfield Cup at that stage? Probably not. I think we probably stopped it earlier.
With the rugby league, maybe. I'm not sure. I'm actually not sure.
But that's a big. That's a big move when you think.
Back to to sports.
Yeah. Well, cigarette advertising was huge.
Because it was. Think of the cricket. Yeah. Remember, used to be all around the the out. Skirts of the. Cricket.
Yeah, the Benson and Hedges World Series.
Yeah, yeah, even the little things, the little, the little triangle. Things that marked when you're going out of bounds. They were bent and they had just little triangles.
Yes, so it was there was cigarette advertising things, yes. And then the Winfield couples, obviously the Winfield logo, the Winnie Red logo was spray painted over the trailer. Well, the Formula One was a big one and that's where the financial ramifications come in, so.
Top. The Formula One had it all over the cars.
Formula One estimated that they were going to lose about 350 to €500 million, which was annually funded into them by tobacco brands prior to the ban. So Ferrari are sponsored by Marlboro. At the time, McLaren by West Bar Honda.
Wow.
Lucky Strike, Renault Mild 7 and Jordan was Benson and Hedges and I just wanna pause for a second cause I've just got another message from one of our sponsors.
Treat your taste kindly direct.
So yeah, so this forced a big split in how teams were gonna secure their funding. They were like.
Thanks. That was a fancy singer. They were expensive. They were a little bit longer than the others. I think from memory.
It was. Hmm. Yes, they did. They had the they had a special length and some some of them didn't have philtres. As a consequence, cause so long that they thought that if if the much more richer tobacco taste, yes, t -, 20 brought to you by chance. So.
Lovely. Lovely.
Yeah, felt great in the bed.
Because it's like nearly 40% of their budget, they're like, well, how do we secure funding and the smaller teams were just like, I don't think we're even gonna survive. So Bernie Ecclestone, who's the chief of Formula One, he was really vocal about all of that. And he's like, you know, the band's gonna devastate motorsport in Europe. Races are gonna have to be moved to more lenient jurisdictions outside of the EU. Not gonna come and work here. You know, Monaco is all over except, except I think that was initially under national exemptions, but anyway. The pressure for Steven the Monaco Grand Prix to not do the advertising, so it it made a it made a big mess. But I mean, look at it now. Everyone's OK, you know, it's it's like everyone's like ohh it's the end. You know if we don't have a sponsorship dollars, we're not gonna but we find a way and I feel like the same conversation is happening these days with with gambling.
And.
Alcohol and alcohol as well, but more so gambling at the moment cause everything sports bet. And that does that, that me like that's annoying having to see all the sports bet advertising every 5 minutes.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And you know every like they've got retired players of rugby league, for example, selling out, you know, to to sports bet and doing like little segments where they're basically talking about the odds of certain things in sport. And I just, I don't give you about that. If I want to gamble, I'll gamble, but I don't need it rammed down my.
Throat. Yeah. So Germany and Austria. Attempted to challenge the directive in the court, the Court of Justice, claiming it overstepped EU authority. However, the court upheld the law, claiming its validity under the EU's internal market rules. Media organisations also expressed concern, particularly around lost advertising. New for prints. Remember. Yeah. Winfield, 20 fives with the back of every magazine I remember back in the 80s.
Yeah. Well, the Marlboro man, the cowboy. You see him everywhere? Yeah.
Yeah. And Benson and Hedges, I remember we're on a lot. Of stuff.
Anyhow, have a Winfield 25. Yes, downhill.
For Dunhill, Dunhill, they were class cigarettes. They I think they have, like a tagline about something about the gentle art of smoking.
Dunhill. Yeah. They're like James Bond cigarettes. James Bond, if you, if you smoked Dunhill, you immediately turned into a spy. You're overtaking espionage. Hmm. Uh-huh.
Bringing something to the gentle and just smurfing.
Yeah. Yeah. Gave you good skills. Public health organisations were pretty happy, as you could imagine a groundbreaking achievement. They at the time there was around 650,000 smoking related deaths annually across the EU so.
Yes.
Sorry, so I.
This just seen.
Just wanna pause for a second. Just Speaking of smoking related deaths. I've just got another message from one of. Our sponsors.
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Sorry, very refreshing indeed.
They projected a 7% reduction in tobacco consumption as a result of stopping the advertising, and it contributed to a global domino effect. It lay the groundwork for broader control measures such as the graphic the graphic health warnings. Remember the gangrenous foot?
Ohh yes yes the gangrenous footedness.
The missing teeth.
Yeah.
And the brown? What else was there? Oh, there was an eyeball, the dissected eyeball.
Yeah, that's not. There's that, that comedian that talks about the gangrenous foot and he's like and now they're trying to discourage me from smoking with his gangrenous foot. He's like, who smokes a cigarette through their toes or who holds a cigarette with their toes? Yeah, just.
Yes. Yeah, who holds a secret through their toes. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. People were, like, trying to get the whole set. Yeah. So I was like, I need to get the ganger in his foot. The eyeball? Yeah. Could you build a build a person? Yes. The missing teeth and.
Oh yeah, you can build. Build a face. You could build the person out of it. I think I've seen that as well. It actually so obviously didn't work enough, just one more time because we're running out of time. I have another message from one of our spots.
Yes.
Worked great.
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And you know.
I hope we charged extra for that.
Well, yeah. Well, like the the phone call came in like late in the week. It was a massive shout out to the team, -20 singers and ragtime band, who were able to pull all those jingles together at last minute. It's just phenomenal. That's it.
Spot that went forever.
Wonderful. You know what they would they would. They they would pay a lot of money, cause what? Where can you? Advertise cigarettes nowadays, you can't. They're hidden behind a wall at the at the supermarket and sell them anymore.
Yeah. That's right. I want to go back to the days where they'll.
Give it away, but giveaways?
Remember, as kids, you could buy a box of faggs cause in Australia we called cigarettes. **** in in the 80s.
Yeah, the lollies. The lollies.
But yeah, get get them started young.
Yeah, exactly.
Get the kids buying the lollies that look like the cigarettes, having walking around and hanging out of their mouth. They get used to having these, these white things in their mouths and.
Alright. Then they grow up and they smoke. All jokes aside, it is a disgusting happens. It's a disgusting happen.
I can't believe that we had lollies that.
Looked like cigarettes though, that.
I know, I know. And you know, The funny thing was, but in spite of all of these things, like, people will still smoke, you know, even in spite of the price rises, people smoke now.
It's just a.
Bit too much, isn't it? Well, that like 50 bucks a packet or something.
I feel. Yeah, but this is, I mean, this was a massive moment. This is a big moment. This is a it was a ground breaking moment, but. Yeah, like people will still smoke, you know? And like, I smoke for a time. You smoke for a time, you know. And I'm not proud of the fact that I smoke, but I feel like it I. Don't even know why I did.
It I just did.
It it was cool. It just looks cool.
It was a thing, it was, it looked really cool. It looked really cool. Well, yes, exactly comes with the territory. But look, as part of the sponsorship stuff like, well, some of the terms and conditions is you have to do some some community service, sort of public health, sort of messaging. So.
I grew up in Canada like I.
Yeah, part of growing up. Yeah, yeah.
For some public health messaging, yeah.
Don't have too slow. To show where. Me. We can overrule. Don't have to smoke to show where to.
And look, that was a really difficult 1. So again, massive shout out to the T -, 20 singers and ragtime band, who really had to pivot with their musical styles.
They did. They had to change their style. Yeah, I I'm glad you played the full version because I was wondering for a few years whether I imagined the verse of the the.
For that.
Guys keep on choosing. What's that? Keep refusing. Keep on choosing what you want to be individual and I thought I made that.
Individual aneurysm. Wanna.
Bit.
Yeah. No, no.
Up. So I'm glad that that actually wasn't there. And what's the last bit individual and original?
A right to say I'm me, yes.
Ohh, I'd like to say I'm me. I thought it was like a right to be.
They're all very good, poignant lyrics, but they kind of lose you at bag the *** but but well, obviously.
Side the side. Hmm.
Wonder how well. That works like someone would come up to you and offer you a diary. And you're like you're gonna keep refusing people by choosing what I want to be individual and original.
Nah, mate. Bag the ***. Yeah, I can remember that. They did another version with Jacko. Mark Jacko Jackson did well as well because he was. I'm an individual and.
Did they?
He he he did.
Ohh I'm an individual. You can't something me fool me, me, me, something me.
Yeah. And I think fool me and I think that did a bit better down in Victoria. Yes, the and the no energiser, yes.
This is the battery guy. I don't know one of. The batteries.
One of the batteries are.
They liked him, they liked him saying no. To cigarettes went well.
Well, he was. He I I don't know that they liked him. He just did a campaign. But yeah, but I I do remember back the flag from back in the day when we were kids. And I I just find it funny when I when I dug that up and I found it and it was like.
Did it. Hmm.
There's, there's actually a lead guitar break in there, and I think about.
That was that solemn was great.
How? Much how much money you spend on time for advertising, and it's pretty extravagant to be chucking a a lead guitar breaking that. Yes, exactly. Well, yeah, sometimes it's.
With no lyrics, you'd only be getting all the words in that you can. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Was there footage of a gangrenous foot?
I don't know. Sometimes like it's like the T -, 20 singers and ragtime bands say sometimes you just gotta. Let the music. Do the talking or something. Times. You just gotta let the DNA, the archaeological evidence. I don't know where I'm going here. I'm trying to segue into something about about an A 1.8 million year old stuff. Can you? Yeah. Can you look after it? I'm not doing very well. Yeah.
From gangrenous foots to skull, we've moved over to skull, a skull aged 1.8 million years old is discovered on the 5th of August 2005. A nearly complete human skull, which they called Skull 5, was.
Yes. It a human.
Though D45 hundreds, the D45 hundreds.
I guess it was a human. D4500 or Skull 5 for short.
Skull 5.
One of the oldest and most complete skulls ever found from the early human genus ****.
Well, I think it's absolutely mind boggling. The preservation of this specimen from. George is extraordinary. It looks like something that you would find in a in a dissection room. It is so complete. It's got the lower jaw, the entire face. The complete brain case. It's a view into the past. Into what our earliest ancestors in our own genus, ****, looked like that. None of us had anticipated.
That's Paleo anthropologist Donald Johansson of the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University. Having a little bit of a nerd. Chasm over Skull 5 there, scientists had found four other skulls hence hence yes, you got it. Hence, Skull 5 all from the same site and that's where you heard that grab earlier where like a Sabre toothed cat had likely grabbed them and dragged them back and found them in the same well, they just obviously.
Skull One Skull 2, Skull 3 and skull.
4.
8 five of them.
Good dinner.
Just the bones and stuff leftover, but Skull 5 was a big deal because they were all found at the same time too. There's but Skull 5 was a big deal because it had a small brain size like it was only just over 500 cubic centimetres, which is. 1/3 the size of our brains, right? Yet a very large face, very strong jaw.
Just some jawline. Hey ladies.
Yeah, yeah, it's think someone from Cambar small brain. Sorry, sorry and that surprised them because they thought that larger brains went hand in hand with more advanced early humans than the smaller brain species were simpler and more ape like. But this skull had a mix of features that didn't fit any of those other boxes from the previous skulls that looked like something in between. A few species which suggest. That there were several different species of early humans possibly living around the same time, like homophobia, Luis **** Rudolph, Fences, and Homoeo erectus, right. And each of those were distinct based on the shape and the size of their skulls. But Skull 5 showed a variation among individuals who clearly lived together in the same place.
Ohh there goes. There goes skull five. That dude with the small brain but a great jaw. Great jaw, but not very bright.
The time. It's like all those **** those **** Rudolf fences. They all look the same to me. No, they don't. Yes, he's skull 5. Or he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed was. Nice guy.
He kept bringing that rice salad to Christmas every time, he just didn't get that nobody liked it. What's he thinking? My gosh.
Oh. Oh, wow. You really heard about that, aren't you?
Little bit, little bit. So let's find it to propose bold new idea that maybe they weren't different species at all, but just a single highly variable species.
Variable. That's right. And they they look different.
Like how people today can look different. So.
We do all come in. Come in different shapes and sizes.
We do, yeah.
We all have special signature dishes as well. One of the most important takeaways was that early humans.
Hmm.
That's what you get when Mel brings a rice salad over takeaway.
They they found out that early humans left Africa a lot earlier than what we originally saw because this is in Europe and Asia, where they found skull.
That's right. So they because they didn't think and they thought if if they had small brains that they weren't capable of migrating, that's what. That's the thing. They're they're small brains. They couldn't migrate. Whereas if they had bigger brains.
Size.
Was that the theory? Wouldn't have known where to go. I can't read a map. Small brains don't understand maps.
More naturally, more naturally, more naturally inquisitive, you know, and need to explore things like. Lands, countries and different dishes.
So the van. And you're an Asian, nearly 2,000,000 years old, which means that they've already migrated out of Africa by this point. Also, no, it challenges the idea that a big brain was necessary for migration using tools.
That's right. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying cause like they find this guy and they're like ohh, you don't need to be a genius.
So they're successful.
Ohh.
Old, small brain made it over to to you.
And it's like, no, have you seen all the quits that get on Jetstar and fly to Bali? It's is this is this theory in full effect proven correct? Yes. Ohh, there's nothing that you enjoy. More on that flight to Bali than watching some reruns of sport, possibly state of origin. We're over to the sports segment. It's kind of sport, but it's sport, it's it's more about sponsorship.
Merchandise merchandise related.
Yes, yes, the cigarettes perhaps. OK.
No, no, no, added our said. If you can't beat them by their weak arrival, they purchased Reebok.
Oh yes. The.
3rd of August 2005.
Stop taking. If not sit back and watch me do me. Because we don't. Fresh. Let the girls.
Jay-Z and 50 Cent collaboration to celebrate the acquisition of.
Yeah, cause yes. Reebok. Yeah, well, Adidas bought it in an all cash deal, 34% premium over Reebok stock price, and they did it to compete with Nike because Nike was dominating the.
So what was that? That was, like, nearly $4 billion, something like that.
Markets at this stage.
Yeah, 3.8 billion U.S. dollars rounded up.
Ohh it's rounded up when you're talking about that kind of may just round it up, you know.
OK, sure.
Nike had a 36% share of the market at this point and it has had just six, which is interesting because I I always thought of the two kind of.
Yes. Yeah.
Being on par with.
I think this is basketball basketball.
Each other, not that.
Were equal to sponsorship. Yeah, well, they do the the Jordan things and the earth force ones. Thanks.
I think Nike had a lot of I think. The Jordan thing? Just shoot knifing into it? Yes, exactly. Different. Different stratosphere.
Nelly. Rebook rebook Reebok.
Rebook rebook I I can't remember that last novel about Ranger. I might need to rebook that.
Are you? What kind of stroke? You American foothold, especially with they had an NBA partnership Urban appeal and they had licencing deals with Jay-Z. Obviously the S Carter Collection and $0.50 with the G Unit sneakers. I actually wanna get a pair. They're pretty cool, I reckon.
Of G unit sneakers. Am I I'm. I think I'm saying it wrong.
You can probably get some.
Yeah, Reebok G units.
Gu net.
You've gotta do G unit. You've gotta get up and down G unit. Yeah, yeah.
Gee, you net, you net? Yes.
Adidas hoped that the acquisition would create a duopoly.
The date is.
You say date this.
I don't know. I know that the run DMC song is my Adidas. Hmm.
Adidas.
My Adidas maybe in America, you say Adidas? Ohh my mum, says Adidas. Well, I've told the story before my mum, my mum says it says Adidas and she went to when I worked in the fruit shop across the road from the fruit shop was like a, you know, like a discount clothing store. Like when you go to paddys markets for example, there's knockoffs of things.
Well.
Well, they're a French company too. Yes, yes.
She thought she was buying my cousins Adidas outfits for Christmas.
All the ohh.
Yeah.
And she didn't realise that the shape of the Adidas logo was that of a marijuana leaf and said Addie Hash Addie Hash and the tag line was for all grass sports and she bought them. She bought them tracksuits and she gave it to bear, but they were. They were miners. Yeah, they weren't of age where you could, you know.
The AD hash.
C.
Or grass sports. I do remember those. They were quite popular back in the day. Yeah.
Confidently walk around wearing weeds at.
So. Walking around, they got these kids walking around in track suits promoting the consumption of cannabis.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hope my uncle cause my uncle was a bit more hip to that stuff. I really hope my uncle intervened and realised that. I mean, you can't wear, you can't wear your Addy ash out to school.
11 Once again, like you know, when I when I made that joke about sort of chemo that that before and we were talking about, we're talking about sort of that, that and then and if we Fast forward to this segment now we're talking about a discount fashion shop that is selling clothes.
Cambo and probably actually was probably. The uniform, let's be honest.
That promote drugs in children's size.
So I don't.
Think your mum's entirely to buy?
An infringing copyright as well at the same time, that's a copyright infringement, surely? Well, my cousins look, my cousins did go to cambar high, so it was probably the unofficial uniform. Let's be on it. The deal looked great on paper, but the brand struggled to integrate.
Right, exactly. Well is. It or is it a logo unto itself?
Jesus.
Well, of course they did. They're separate brands, but they didn't. They just keep them like Reebok are still around now.
Very different, yes.
Yeah, but they. They don't own Adidas, don't own them. They sold them to someone else in 2021.
Ohh.
Oh, that's only recently.
Yeah, but you. Started seeing all these other new brands popping up as well, like Under Armour and they became really popular. I don't know. I bought an Under Armour bra and it's very uncomfortable and I feel like.
Oh yeah, Under Armour. That's cause it's made out of chain mail. It's Under Armour.
Should be out to Alma.
While hoping for a less controversy.
Move.
Your behalf of the show, once we, now that we've gotten past the cigarette advertising and.
Whatnot. OK, alright, let's go to the Australian chart.
Ohh OK.
#1 crazy frog.
Ohh that'll do, that's.
Enough number one in the UK, you're beautiful.
You're beautiful.
Thanks. Not often, people say anything nice to me or about me, and for good reason. I guess. I mean, you've heard the show, but that was nice. That made me feel good. I'm. Gonna do it one more time. Thanks.
You're beautiful.
Yeah, it's true. Us, we've got a.
Ah, thank you.
Couple of new entries in the. US actually, let's have a.
Ohh do we alright?
Listen.
I'm glad.
Like me, like me.
Nobody.
Mariah holding firm.
Umm #1.
No. Yeah, just cemented on that stool at #1, yes.
Yeah, Rihanna pondy, replay #2 don't you #3 new entry. Lose control. Missy Elliott #4 and another new entry at #5. Let me hold you use.
That by let me hold you. That's Bow Wow.
Ohh that's Bow Wow is that his one with amarian? Or is that his one with Sierra?
Bow. Yes. No, I think it's the one with. Omarion.
Marian bow. Wow. I'll get on you. Bow. Wow.
Yes, that's barrel. Yeah. Uh-huh. We talked about the the sort of that the the voice is broken, but it's still very new, it's very fresh, it's very new, it's got that new car smell to it, yeah.
Yeah, still bit crackly, yeah.
But we're not going to talk about him. We'll. Save him for next, shall we?
Ohh OK cool. Let's save our ballot.
Talk about let's talk about. Missy's new entry into the.
Chop. Face.
Make you do what double take.
Lose control. Missy elliott's.
I I do enjoy a fit of Missy Elliott.
With Sierra in the House that that scoop.
Yeah, but see, see, I think fat man scoop. But I was always like, you know, I was like, it's he's bit full on like, he's bit of bright see.
In the House, all right. That song, any that song stresses me out.
But I think he's I think he they've mixed him well in.
There's too much.
That one? No, that that song stresses me out. There's too much going on. Yeah. And that. And what's his other one? The be faithful.
This one loose control does. Ah, it's good.
One ohe ohe ohe.
No, that's too. Much. Yeah, that worries too. Yes. OK, stop doing. You sound like you're strangling a bird. You just stop doing it.
He does that? Yeah. That one's more.
So it's so triggering man. I just don't stop it. I'm having a bad reaction to that particular thing that you're doing right now. It's kind of like.
Stressful actually. Ohh.
Your rice salad. For being honest, I just want to stay. Away from it. Yeah. I'm sorry that you didn't do it.
Yeah, too bad it's that it's a good song, but it stresses me out there. There's there's a lot going on. It's very busy and it's just too much for my little brain. It's too much for a skull #5 too much happening in the one song.
Hmm.
Yeah.
From the album the cookbook and it's samples, it's samples, not a it's samples. Two 80s songs. Did you get these ones great?
Yeah. I did OK, so there's this one called clear by Cybertron, but it's not like Cybertron. From where? The Autobots and Decepticons are from. It's cybotron, spelled CYBOTRON, which is like, it's like the Cam bar transformer plane. Yeah.
It's like the Addie hash.
Cool. Hey, the 80s.
Well, I like that I can see I can see 80s Mel in her rah rah skirt dancing to that at the disco I like.
Video Arcade type vibe yeah, cybotron yeah.
It.
And you can hear, yes, I can hear where that's in it. It also samples a song called body Work by Hot Streak, also from the 80s.
So this this is from the remember there was a break dancing movie called. Breaking. And this was on the soundtrack.
I don't know, but I've been told. Music make you lose control. Work your body to the beat. Body work will set you free. Sound of 1-2 sound all three four. Bring it on down. Bring it on down 12341234.
Ohh I can see a break.
Ohh, since we're here, throw a cardboard box down on the floor.
Dance competition. Can you play the now? Can you put them together and turn it into? The song. What happened? No.
Now it's terrible. Yeah, I can't do that.
He just was off the beat. If you're on beach, you'd be more coordinated. You'd be good. I like both of those songs that go into that and way less way less stressful, way less stressful. There's a lot less going on.
Yeah, maybe I could do it later. Then the well then, then when you smash them all together. It's I. I quite enjoyed Missy's version, even though he's quite hectic, it is quite hectic, but she's she's hectic.
I do like Missy, I do like.
She is. She is in a good way, a good, hectic and the music video was directed by Dave Myers. Futuristic visuals, strobe lit, dance battles and glowing floors. Very Y2K. Sierra was doing some really good dance moves and she said that it was the most difficult choreography that she'd ever done. In that video clip, she was.
Really.
Contorting.
She was, yes. Excellent.
Which is contorting, contortionist level koro, and Missy danced as well. There's lots of dancing and ohh from.
RIP, by the way. Sad. Yeah, it did. So this year or last year?
Ohh, that's right. Facing students passed away, hasn't it? Yeah. When did he die? Was that last year? Last year just died on stage. I mean, what a way to go. That was that was terrible. That would have been terrible for all in.
It's racing, right? Yes. Terrible. Terrible music.
Attendance too, yes. Do you remember those break dancing movies from the 80s?
I don't remember that movie, but I do remember.
Breaking the other one beat St.
I do remember 10. What was it called? And they played it as the midday movie a lot. It ended up being well. It was big in the 80s and then it became became the midday movie in the 90s. Yeah. And I remember I was sick one day at my grandmothers and I was having a Continental cup of soup, tomato flavour, possibly cream of chicken, one of the two and it.
Really, they played a break dancing movie from inside there. That's how you know you're getting old. OK. Yep.
Came on and they were wearing like, cut off. So they were denim jackets, but they cut the sleeves off to turn them into denim vests, and they were doing what are the what was the one called where you had the leg and you span that, you spin your leg around and you jump over it. Was that cool?
I I'm not entirely sure. I didn't even know it had a name.
What was that called?
They all have.
Names, yes, but I do remember. Ohh their head was that like?
Like the head spin and the back spin and the duck dive the duck dive. You know the the worm. You know the worm was originally the duck duck, and then it was part of.
Was that what it was thought was there were, yeah. Was this?
Like dancing David Shadle in year three, my God, could he break dance? He brought his own cardboard to school and where we'd line up to go in there was like a seat and some cement and then a little lunch. He'd bring out his piece of cardboard and he'd do a back spin and the duck. Duck. No, no, no. This was at my primary school. He's 3. This is. Yeah.
City. Really. Yeah, yeah. Visit cambar high. Ohh good. I'll just say Kevin, Hi later in the afternoon you going commit a couple of Dr Bys and Rubber 711.
Wonder what happened to David Shadle hit a rats tail. He's very.
Cool. Did he? Do you remember that in the 80s, like there we went? Break dancing. First came out like oh, they can't spin on their head like that. They'll break their necks.
They.
Is that just?
What I remember that people used to do it then in the stack hat like that was going to protect.
Nice things.
Your neck. The stack hat? Yeah. It's not gonna protect your neck at all. It's silly, but don't break dance. You'll break your neck.
I know, I know, I don't understand.
So what were some of the moves there? Was.
Were you?
The the back spin head spin.
Ohh you the names for them? The what?
The back spin and the head spin there was wind. Ohh windmill. That was the leg sweeping.
The window. Is that what that was called the window?
See, you know, like you you squat down.
Yeah, don't. Please don't. No. Get back on the microphone. No, that I honestly.
You jump over it. Do you know what I mean, though? Can you do you remember it?
Yeah, I can. I. What? No, I can't do anything. I can remember that. Yes, I can remember. What else did they have?
And then you got like that like. And. That was that was the windmill. The flare, which is a continuous circular leg motion while in a handstand position.
Oh yeah. Uh-huh.
The Jack hammer.
Ohh, hang on a second. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. Is there a ***** ******** there or a ***** *******? Maybe an angry dragon. Movies, movies. There are things out that and that which is good because there hasn't been for a while. So there's a couple of things at the box office, number one in the US is a little film called Wedding crashes.
This summer, two people will come together to celebrate the sanctity of marriage this wedding.
He's a kid.
Trashing weddings we are going to have tonnes and tonnes of opportunities to meet gorgeous ladies that are so aroused by. The thought of marriage and to throw.
Their ambitions to the wind and who's gonna be there to catch them?
Grab that net and catch that beautiful butterfly pal.
Who are we?
This time, Lou Epstein wants you mute.
Chuck Schwartz, Sanjay Collins.
Chuck Vanderloo, shamus.
Hello.
O'Toole Bobby O'Shea. I'm ready to get drowned.
OK, So what are we going to play here?
I'm going to go with the.
Balloon animal display. I'm going to dance with a little flower girl. I might.
Be a charter member of Oprah's Book Club. It's all deadly.
Owen Wilson, now they say we only use 10% of our brains.
We only use 10.
Percent of our hearts. Vince Vaughn.
'S tattoo on the lower back as well be.
A bullseye with Christopher Walken.
We're not.
Wedding crashers. Hi was new. My first time would be on.
A beach first time.
Be so happy together. I love you.
When when there was a bit with uh with Christopher Walken, I was, I was waiting for like a wow or like some kind of Christopher Walken thing. I don't know. That was a bad Christopher Walker. I can't do Christopher Walker. But I was waiting for a quote, but obviously that wasn't in the contract that he was gonna be. The trailer. I could hear Isla Fisher in there as well.
No, that's too much money.
That was her big breakout movie, wasn't it?
It was she was very good at comedy. I do remember this being a very big film at the time. And comedies such a subjective thing. Lots of people love this movie. I was not one of those.
People. Yeah, I didn't love it. I love. I love Isla Fisher. I loved doing home anyway, so I.
Yes, she she.
Was probably the best part about it. Yeah. Proud, proud for our Isla yeah.
Was. I was proud of her, was proud, didn't particularly like it, and it was that. The resurgence of the comedy that were in America, it was rated R, so it was a little bit more risque than your usual run of the mill comedy, so.
That's right. Yeah. And I do like that I do like that part about it. I do like it when the comedy is a little bit this gay and lewd. In case you didn't notice.
Brought.
Little bit rude. Big rude. Yes.
Yeah, yeah, I did notice. Don't worry, I. So yeah, they go to high society weddings uninvited to score free food and and. Susan and flings, actually, but it gets messy because one of the guys falls for one of the girls. It's one of the things and lots of lies.
And chicks.
Yeah.
That was Rachel McAdams, I believe as well. And then near Christopher Walken was like.
Ohh the notebook.
Like the was he like the dad? Yeah, he was like. And he was a US secretary or something like that. A political figure. That's right.
Is a dance. Oh.
Made over 285,000,000 worldwide on a 40 million budget.
Touching that is, that's good movie stuff.
Pretty good.
Pretty good, and it cemented Vaughn and Wilson as. The the comedy Bros yeah.
Ohh yeah yeah. Everyone kind of loved it from that. Well there I think too. And this was the allure of wedding crashes. It is. It had the comedy Bros, but it also had the wedding stuff. And Rachel McAdams and stuff. So it it was right. And there was a there was a romance in there as well. There actually ended up being a bit of a love story.
Hmm.
The notebook, yeah.
As well, so it it it it, it had everything to bring everyone together, which is great, isn't it? All that. Yes, that's wonderful. And then this movie probably not so much because it's a Michael Bay film. But I will say I actually I loved it. It was a it's a very fast paced action movie that you may remember. I can't believe it's 20 years old.
Brought. Lovely. We watched this. Enjoyed. I enjoyed this.
Called the island.
Attention residents, welcome to the lottery spin. Jordan 2D. You're moving out to the island, transported to the world's last paradise.
I think they're.
Gonna kill you. There is no island.
Come on.
Two of our products have escaped.
Let him get away. I don't know.
But I want one.
This summer.
Tell me what's going. On you're gonna come looking for you. Good job.
Your copies of people, so one of them gets sick and.
They need a new.
Part, they take it from you.
Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm not ready to die.
Michael, come. We never did this before. The director of the. And the Armageddon.
Tongue thing is amazing. I know you didn't know to.
This whole human thing, but.
Backpacks for boys, purses for girls. Understand.
We're not idiots. Well.
Excuse me, miss. I'm so smart. I can't wait to go to the island.
Yeah, you could tell that that is a bucket baby from the trailer. It's like, oh, God. Oh, it's it's quite overwhelming. I didn't realise it was that overwhelming, but that that was a very overwhelming trailer. Sorry. Yes. What did you realise?
The music. The noise. You know. I just noticed something. Did you know the first bit where there's a? Voiceover going welcome to. The island, I think that's Scarlett Johansson. Can you play the start of the trailer again? She's the person over the PA have a listen, I think.
Doing the voice. Are you serious? Doing the voice of well, that's.
It is.
Attention residents, welcome to the lottery spin.
No, I don't think it is.
I think. It is.
It sounded more like her as it went on a bit more.
We could probably we could probably dig that up, but yeah, whatever.
I thought I'd just uncovered something amazing. Guess not.
You you look you.
Might have I liked it. So they're clones and. They're clones and they're.
It's the rice salad of revelations.
They're clones and they use them for body parts, for the rich and famous. That's a good idea. And I it probably is already happening.
That's right. It's a great premise and it was a very fast paced action movie. I think it was my introduction to Michael Bay films. Maybe it was when I became aware of Michael Bay. I guess more so because it was full on like it's there's a lot happening, Michael.
What's it?
Nice.
OK. It cannot hold a shot for anything more than I don't know 5 seconds before he has to cut to something. Else like it's just.
Hmm.
Bang, Bang Bang, everything happens very quickly in micropayment.
And he spent 126 million on it.
Hmm. And he made Scarlett Johansson look absolutely stunning. He's very good. He's very good at with his camera work at making women look very objectifiable. I guess it's I, I don't know. I don't know. A A right way to say that, really.
She looks good as a clone clone, Susan.
Yes, good answers.
You know, it's like the scene in Transformers when Megan Fox is working on the car and she's bent over and looking in the bonnet of the car and he just he just knows how to catch them at the right angles. It's very good composition, very well put together. Package. Yes, he knows how to do that quite well.
Hmm.
Great composition, fabulous.
That was the island on the small screen 3rd of July. We had a big premiere. Kathy Gryphon. My life on the D list.
Hmm.
Yes.
Kathy Gryphon is a celebrity.
Kathy Gryphon is the.
Funny, listen, sort of her new Bravo series reveals. The life climbing the Hollywood Ladder one letter at.
My agent doesn't return my phone calls. Tell her. I called. I'm on my.
Cell. Bye, Kathy.
Gryphon my life on the D list coming soon.
Only on Bravo's. Watch what, Hatcher.
Ohh Kathy Gryphon, I Kathy. Gryphon is such a divisive character and I don't I feel bad for Kathy Gryphon cause I don't think she's that bad of a person and I think that's.
Cat.
She's been cancelled many times, haven't she?
Well, she's done some pretty silly things like, you know. She did the she did the Donald Trump's head cut off thing and it was a photo, and it was obviously a staged photo. But I would argue that that's art, right? That's art. It's it's not very, you know it. It's divisive and it's controversial. And I don't think it was promoting, I don't know. I should be very careful about how I word that. But Kathy Gryphon has always been divisive and I think she's paid the the price.
Hmm.
For being so divisive. But she's also very self deprecating and this is what this show my life on the D list was I think it was very self deprecating. Thing, look at her life trying to be a celebrity.
Colouring her way through the lower rungs of celebrity life. As she said. And while the A listers were doing what a listers do, she was performing at gay bars, shopping malls and retirement homes. She was obsessing over her cue score, which was the celeb likability score at the time. Throwing shade at everybody from Oprah to Clay Aiken.
And that was a stick, right? Eventually that's gonna come back to bite you and that, and it does.
Equal parts yeah, mockumentary, celebrity roast, emotional insights and. Sometimes a little bit of real life personal struggle in there as well. It was pretty groundbreaking. It premiered on Bravo was pretty groundbreaking for them because it preceded Real Housewives and it was kind of the 1st.
Yeah.
Eat.
She was their their gateway drug into reality. Yep, Yep.
Into reality for them. Yeah, it won two Primetime Emmy Awards for Outstanding Reality programme actually in 2000 and seven, 2008. It also, like I said, showed a softer side of her too, because she was going through a divorce at the time, her career wasn't doing great and. A bit of grief happening.
So So what I will say, you know, we talked about Hogan knows best like last week. What I will say the difference, the difference is that I think Kathy Gryphon lover or hater?
Hmm.
I think was being authentic and and your definition of that might change or whatever, but I think she was just doing her thing, as she always does. And. And that's what she's known for, whether you like her or not doesn't make any difference. I think she was being a very authentic version of Kathy Gryphon on that show. Whereas like on Hogan's knows best, they had an agenda. They were trying to like turn it into something else. She kind of. I think she made herself quite vulnerable on that show. And she's she's and she's made us so vulnerable many times, just and even when she, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Throw shade at people. She makes herself even more vulnerable because it just that she just brings a lot of herself.
Well, she got banned from the view, yes. And various red carpets.
Yes, cause she she was rude to people and she clashed with a lot of people.
Yes.
Just I think sometimes too though. She's probably saying what a. Lot of people were thinking.
As.
Well, yeah, I think her mum was was one of the highlights of the show though, because she was kind of the one that would. Like scold her.
Yeah. Yeah. Tell her off.
And she was. She's been ALCO as well, too. Which is, I mean, we can all relate to. That can't we? Well, it's not a book. We didn't read this week. Is it, Mel? Because you've gone and spoiled.
That for us? Ohh yes, I read this one. It's not a New York Times bestseller though. It was a book that was published.
You've read this one.
Posthumously in Sweden.
Ohh.
On the 1st of August. Ohh 2005 hmm girl with the Dragon Tattoo first published.
Yeah, I didn't know it was published posthumously. I don't know much about the book I.
Yeah. No, he died. Steve Larson was dead. You don't know much. I I believe you know a synopsis.
Don't know much about the book. Yes. Did. Watch the movie. Ohh. You want me to do OK? I'll do the synopsis. What do we need? We need to. What is it? What genre are we talking about?
It's a mystery. Or is it fun when private detective Harriet Ragner, I say I don't wanna sweet its wealthiest families disappeared over 40 years ago. See, all these years later, her uncle.
I think.
Continues to seek the truth. He hires Michael Bomb Christ, our crusading journalist, recently trapped by a libel conviction to investigate. See. He's aided by the pierced and tattooed punk prodigy Lisbeth Salander. Together they tap into the vein of unfathomable iniquity and astonishing corruption and international publishing sensation. Steve Larsons, the girl with the Dragon Tattoo, combines murder, Mystery, Family saga, love story and financial intrigue into once satisfyingly complex and entertaining atmospheric novel. How was that it?
Didn't feel like any. Of that, when I read it, no, no, no, no.
It's like that private detective. You'll never catch me, copper.
No, it's probably.
A little bit darker and moodier than that, but sure, whatever. Like too late now. Too late now. Alright. Yeah. See what people had to say, Christian. One star so much about this book was awful. Yet I couldn't stop reading. There was something like the combination of a car wreck and a double cheeseburger from McDonald's.
Ohh well rolling with it now. We've come this far. OK. Uh-huh.
Sit.
OK, alright. Beth. Beth gives it one star. My mum got this for me, I guess because the word tattoo is in the title so she'd assumed I'd like it.
That's such a parent thing. It is. I think that I think my dad asked me if I'd read it cause it said tattoo on there, you've got a tattoo.
It's got tattoos in.
Yeah.
You must have read it.
Uh-huh.
I did.
Renee, one star.
Yeah.
Did not need to know about the sex life of that 56 year old woman in such great detail. Please unsubscribe me.
Take it easy. It's not too far away. I've I've. I'm keen to hear about it. I'm keen to hear about anything that's above 50. That's got a sex life. It gives me hope. Fills me with hope. Sylvia, is it? No. Is that the one? Yes. Sylvia, one star. This book is excellent. If you want the experience of a robot reading a translated encyclopaedia entry about rape in the past tense while you sit in the freezer. Ohh. Is it was that? Was that the kind of mood that it evoked when you read it?
Oh.
Sitting in a freezer? No, I and I've said this before. I struggled with the names and you know, like every time I'd read over a name because there were similar names there.
Hmm.
Was blonde this.
Ohh, because they're all Swedish names.
And I, and if my brain. They can't read them straight away and has to think about translating them and trying to work out how to pronunciate it pulls you out of the story and there are people with similar names, so there was another guy that started with a B. Yeah, there were a few B guys and I just.
Yeah. You gotta kind of backtrack a little bit. And then you gotta go. And it's like is that that dude or is that the other dude? Yeah.
It was very confusing. Very confusing, yes.
Yeah. It's like, is that bloom Crist or Beyoncé son, I'm not sure.
Yeah, it was very long and I. Think I read. I read the third. There was 3 or 4I. Don't know.
Dragon Tattoo books.
Yeah, there was a few and I read 1 when we were away. Remember we were away at the at the entrance. Remember when that kid did a poo?
Yes. Ah yes, and you.
On the.
Gun. Then we nearly walked in it.
Ohh yes you the same. It's amazing what you.
Remember, but I well, I don't remember the story because that was when I was drinking Smirnoff blacks by the pool. So I was reading it while I was drinking Smirnoff. Blacks I can't.
Oh yeah.
Remember what happened in. That one I was living there.
Living the dream, it's such a white trash. Team, isn't it drinking Smirnoff? Blacks bleeding a stick glass and book by a pool while some other crusty bogan family and the cheap *** hotel that we're staying at? Kids it's on the carpet after he.
The turn on the coffin.
Gets out of the pool.
Don't even get me started on the spa. Disgusting. OK.
It's more like a Stew than a spa.
Dorian. Achilles ones down what?
Kind of name is Dorian Achilles. Somebody's been reading too many books.
Only reason I finished it was because it was the only book in the cycle.
Oh, sorry Dorian. Sorry incorrectly.
Like.
I'll gotta keely Kiri Kyriazis Keeley Kyriazis 1 star. A ridiculous amount of Swedish business practises. It's like reading a disgusting IKEA cattle.
Block. That's rude.
That's and I a little bit racist really towards Swedish people. I mean, I'm sure they can handle it, but I just think that's a bit racist.
Right.
So.
Sorry about that, sorry about that synopsis. I'm also sorry about the fact that I didn't even realise it that the music that I was using in that segment, I was a wildly inappropriate, but I also didn't pay for it. And as a consequence, it's got the word preview underneath it, which is.
I.
I thought it was just a nice. So cool. But yeah, that was preview.
No. Yeah, I didn't even realise it was there. Well.
Do you get in trouble?
For that. Well, that's like if you use an ice stock photo with the ice.
Stock watermark. I can't even remember where it came from either. Yeah, well.
Ohh well sorry.
That was just a preview on previous frame.
It's.
I'll. I'll just. Right now I'm I'm accepting responsibility. I'm apologise. And if if the box or whatever can connect me with the person that created it, I'll happily throw a couple of bucks their way from our sponsors. So Kent Tobacco, it's the hatches, matches and dispatches segment.
Have a conversation.
And that little? Clue that we did at the start. That said that Mel was in our DNA.
Bill is in all of our TV.
Whoa.
Every character that I've ever played has been inspired by this music and filled by this music. It's in everything that I am so big, heavy metal together we are going to make this the most epic day in the history of heavy metal. So let's tear this.
Yeah. If you said Jason Momoa. Gifts to you. I think that was pretty. That was him at the back to the beginning, black.
Sabbath the concert the other day.
Yeah, the final Black Sabbath Ozzy Osbourne concert. He was the emcee he was. And he was a great MC and he he genuinely has a huge passion and love for music and heavy metal. He's a bass player. He did.
Right guys, the base.
That he's he. I think I don't know if it was a rock and roll Hall of Fame, something he inducted Metallica into something and did the big speech about how wonderful they were. He loves loves Black Sabbath. He was obviously asked to emcee that. He's a big Pantera fan.
Ah, I didn't know he was a metal fan.
Man, there's been footage of him up on stage singing walk with Pantera and the blokes from King Parrot, which was banned from Melbourne. No, he's just like he's taking part in the whole fun of it all. And and the the, the, the Black Sabbath concert was wonderful because he went Pantera, played. He's like I'm gonna get down in the mosh pit with you guys, and he gave his phone.
Can you sing?
I'll just bang.
Over. And he took the the 50s man bun off in his hat. And then he went down into the mosh pit, and there was a moment there where he was like, all good. And then you just saw this look in his eyes of sheer terror as his feet obviously were removed from the ground. And he was just carried by the wave of people. But he look to his credit.
Please take his shoes off. Take his shoes off. Howdy.
Hmm.
Ohh dear. Rookie mistake.
To he? Well, he looked a little bit terrified. To his credit, I'm sure there was some security planted in there to help him, but maybe I'm just being cynical. He he toughed it out through the entire set and then crowd surfed it all the way back up to the front of the stage and did it. So like, you know, I'm a fan.
What's good on?
Him good on him.
Why they didn't damage him, I hope he. Didn't get injured.
I think the Momoa was OK. OK, there's no damage to Jason's Momoa. It was all intact.
Yes.
His birthday is on the 1st of August. He was born in Hawaii, son of a painter and a photographer. He moved to Iowa at age 6 with his mother.
That's a big shift, isn't it?
Discovered as a model in 1998 crowned Hawaii's model of the year in 1999 and was in Baywatch Hawaii. Baywatch.
Hmm.
That's right. Yes, he was. He was in. Yeah, he was Ronan Dex in Stargate Atlantis. Yep. And then and then he, I think his breakthrough role, though. Cal Drogo in Game of Thrones.
Stargate Atlantis did not know that. Did you know that? Oh, you didn't know that, obviously. I get him confused with the werewolf guy from True Blood. Who is that?
Oh, oh, what's his? The name he was in Magic Mike as well, and he was married to Sofia Vergara. John. No, no, Joe.
Yeah, I get them confused.
Yeah, that guy. Joe. Paula. But dinero Pala. It's got a G. Yeah, pangallo.
Joe. Tangelo.
Hello.
I don't think that's him. That's there's a different Joe. That's a Joe painter. He's different. He was the he was the police commissioner in bad boys different.
I. But anyway I yeah, I get them confused him and.
Ross.
That guy. OK, well, that's not him.
They're both stunning. They're both stunning with their hair and the hmm.
Ohh yeah, OK, well mamoa. I mean, you know, he's been keeping people moist for a while now. They really liked him as Khal Drogo, and they continued to.
They did, even though he was, it wasn't a very nice person. He was a bit. He was a bit rough. It's, yeah. Comes with the territory.
Carl drogo. It's just a bit of a barbarian. Dothraki leader. I mean, you know, he he loved.
Easy, yes. Anyway, he was in Aquaman as well.
Yeah.
Sorry, I was speaking about him like he's a real person. The character he played, he was inaccurate. He was. He wasn't in Aquaman. How rude. He was. Aquaman. Yeah.
He was he was the Aquaman. I love him in Minecraft and he's beautiful. Pink jacket. I love the jackets. I thought he was great.
Hey, you do like him as a garbage man. That was a. That was a very Jared Hess movie, Minecraft.
Yes, that's wonderful. He's a good.
Guy, he's an environmental champion. He's in the UNICEF, he's in the environment programmes like life below water. He's a spokesperson on the by National Geo. Traffic for, you know, conservation work, all of that sort of stuff.
He's been rescuing koalas.
I mean, he's Aquaman. You know, talk to fish.
He's aiding in endangered koalas.
Well, that's good. That's important. Ohh in Australia with Currumbin Wildlife Century, that's a good place. Currumbin Wildlife centre.
Something from olives, yes, yes.
Ever been there?
I did and Laura keeps on my ice block.
That's right, you get to feed the lorikeets, yes.
Well, I cried. They do.
No.
They it's a lot because they get fed a lot. That's the problem. When you go to those wildlife, there's like, come and feed the lorikeets and everyone's feeding the lorikeet.
Hmm.
And as a consequence, the lorikeets are just shifting all the time. It's like.
You always get if you don't get that on. Of course.
The. As the food is going into their mouth, it's coming out there at the same time because it's just like cause. That's the big tourist thing, very fat.
It's warm, it's always warm.
Laura case that is shaking everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, but, well, my mum has been involved with that. And no, he where he was married to Lisa Bonet.
Right.
He wasn't the one. Well, hey, and didn't he make some comment that he'd, like, been in love with her for years and he wanted to marry her? And then he married her? And I thought, isn't that beautiful? Yes. Isn't that love?
Yes, yes.
Lovely, but now they're.
No, they're divorced. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Divorced last year was finalised.
But I remember too, because Lisa Bonet was was with Lenny Kravitz and had daughter Zoe Kravitz. And then he was the stepfather of Zoe. And then and but he got on really well with Lenny.
Isn't it my fish?
As. Well, this is Lenny Kravitz. Well, yeah, there's, there's not a lot to dislike about Lenny Kravitz. The most attractive 60 year old man.
I love.
Anyone who can workout in Greens?
The face of the earth.
And he works out in jeans. Wow, what a man.
I mean, hello. You know, I think Jason Momoa wishes he was letting Kravitz, if I'm being honest.
He could work out in jeans.
Jason Momoa.
Reckon.
Yeah, I reckon he could.
I don't know, but he likes heavy metal. So that's his redeeming factor.
He's got a new girlfriend. Everybody. So sorry to break it to you. Even though his divorce is finalised. Andrea. Jonah. Who's? I think she's an actress. New relationship started last year.
Heavy. I like that. I hope she likes heavy metal cause he's he's pretty into.
It happy birthday.
M. Mamoa, Sir. Appreciate you appreciate you too for listening to the show. We're at the end of it. So that's it. We've we've got some stuff and nonsense next week, but we're kind of a little bit underprepared cause it's like it's it's the show between the shows. So like you know like I gave away the secrets about how.
Yeah. Yes.
Haven't thought about that yet, so we. Don't. Know we don't know what's happening.
We we kind of do two in a row and then we Fast forward a couple cause life and stuff, right and we're just happy that you're a part of it. We're just happy that you're part of our little life that involves us doing this little podcast every now and then because we really love doing it. But we love that. You listen to it and hopefully enjoy it as well. So tell your friends and get them to listen to and and enjoy it too because that. Helps us continue to make the podcast. Yeah. The wind beneath our wings.
Yes.
You are the you are. We are like mamoa in the mosh pit being. Lifted off the ground and with stealing panic sheer panicked in our eyes, he says. Sheer panic in our eyes as you carry us through this little journey that is this podcast that we've been doing for over 200 episodes now. So thank.
And you're shipping our shoes and you're stealing our hat.
But you're pushing us back over to the stage, back onto the stage safely.
You might give us a wedgie.
You.
As you pull us. Along. That's fine. We'll take that, hmm.
It's all good. It's all good. It's all welcome, and we probably deserved it. We definitely don't deserve you, but we appreciate you. Come and find us on the socials throughout the week. Search for t -, 20 podcasts. Facebook, Instagram, tick tocks. Help Mel with the signature dish and.
Get me a new signature dish dish recipe. It would be Christmas before you know it.
Please make sure it's something that I like. Thanks very much. We'll see you next week.
See ya.
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