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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Inside the playboy mansion: The Girls Next Door premieres
Rewind to 7 to 13 August 2005.It’s the week the UN got scandalous, Shane Warne made history and a Playboy Mansion reality show somehow counted as TV. Plus: Jessica Simpson washes a car… aggressively. Let’s ride.
🛢️ UN scandal gets greasy. The third Volcker Report into the Oil-for-Food Program dropped and it was messier than a deep-fried mars bar. Top UN official Benon Sevan was accused of pocketing bribes, Saddam’s regime raked in billions and the whole thing made the UN look about as secure as your Hotmail password.
🚀 Space tourism’s wild pitch. Space Adventures announced plans to send rich people around the Moon for $100 million. Bold. But despite all the big talk and Soyuz flights, the dream of a billionaire doing a moonwalk in a space suit fizzled.
🏏 Warnie hits 600. Shane Warne became the first bowler to take 600 Test wickets, knocking over Marcus Trescothick in a wild Ashes draw at Old Trafford. Then he casually smashed 90 runs with the bat. Icon behaviour.
🎥 Daisy Dukes take over. The Dukes of Hazzard reboot hit #1 at the US box office, mostly thanks to Jessica Simpson’s car wash scene and a lot of Dodge Chargers being violently sacrificed for your viewing pleasure.
🐰 Playboy Mansion gets reality TV. The Girls Next Door premiered, serving bunny ears, low-rise everything and the illusion that Hef was just a quirky grandpa. The later memoirs? Not so fluffy.
📚 James Patterson’s 'Lifeguard' bombs. This week’s NYT bestseller featured less lifeguarding, more nonsense. Reviewers called it “clunky,” “gratuitous,” and “a reason to never trust your husband’s book recs again.”
🎶 Bow Wow & Omarion lose control. The US #1? Let Me Hold You. Bow Wow and Omarion gave us a house party drama that launched Future’s music video cameo career. Yes, really.
💥 Singer survives headshot. Marc Cohn was shot in the head during a carjacking attempt… and walked it off. Literally. He’s fine, but our jaws are still on the floor.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
7 August 2005.
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Talk show minus.
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This is bananas. Now you will come home.
My question is who approved that?
Do you see where this is going? Not really.
Did you ever wonder what the hell we were all doing 20 years ago? Maybe because you've failed to remember or you know it's just a distant memory that. You know, you push back into the deeper recesses of your mind, and you've chosen to suppress, and we're not all about that. We're 10 -, 20. We're the podcast that rewinds exactly 2 decades to the Headlines, Heart throbs and hot messes of the early 2000's, the ones that even that you probably do choose to suppress it. Yet from world shaking news to ringtone dominating charts.
Yes.
It had happened in 2005. We're dragging it back into the spotlight whether it likes it or not, by the. Hair. Hmm layer jeans and all with your host Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel.
Absolutely. Hello we are rewinding A7 to 13 August 2005 this week.
Mr Volcker has said from the past that he would release these documents as he no longer needed them, and we've welcomed the fact that he's done. That.
Ohh, some people have welcomed the fact that Mister Volkers released his report, but other people not so much with the oil for food scandal hitting peak chaos with a massive report that came out that dropped more names than a 2005 Myspace Top 8. But that's only because Myspace Top 8 only has 8. Names in it.
After the first astronauts saw the Earth from space, they came back with stories of its beauty and fragility.
20 years ago we were talking space walks for the Super rich adventures into space $100 million. Ohh so cheap. What a bargain. Ah, spoiler alert never happened, but we'll find out. We'll find out what happened.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
I don't get jealous of other girls because I was raised in a cloning lab to be the perfect woman. For Hugh M Hefner, so other than the fact that my IQ's probably a little higher than he would like, I have nothing to worry about.
Now.
Ohh, the girls of the Playboy Mansion or the girls next door or whatever you wanna skin it, whichever way you. Wanna skin that? Rabbit Ohh came out on the TV 20 years ago. There's been so much water that's gone under that bridge, so that's gonna be a very interesting conversation. Ohh, and Speaking of water under the bridge, as you know.
Ohh, lots of tells over time, yes.
Yeah.
We obviously we record this two weeks or so in advance, OK, so, so quite often at the time of recording, things do happen across the Co. Of the the week that the episode comes out that we have no foresight or control of, and I think specifically a couple of weeks ago we talked about Hogan knows Best Hulk Hogan's TV show, and literally the was it the morning after or the day off.
To we've recorded before we publish, yes. The day we released the podcast that was published that morning and then we found out a few hours later.
Yes. Well, it's yeah, like midnight. And then at about 11:00 that morning at. To or earlier. Perhaps Hulk? We found out that Hulk Hogan had passed away.
Yeah. So very much alive when we were talking about the show, Hogan knows best.
Yes, yes. And so that was awkward because I I like, I called it like I saw it and said some things about Hulk Hogan that they were perhaps not very nice people, you know? So and I I think. I the the the history will speak for itself, right? But had I have known what I know now, I might not have gone in so hard. I guess, you know, just out of respect. Because the other thing is is Hulk Hogan was a big part of my childhood as I, as I mentioned earlier as well. And then of course, the other thing that.
Hmm.
I I I think we need to talk about too. Is is Ozzy oz. **** because we also spoke about the osbournes in that episode and and and and the comparison. And then we talked about the concert in in Birmingham, the Black Sabbath farewell, and less than two weeks after that, Ozzy Osbourne has passed away, which just shattered me as as someone who who's a big fan, I was completely shattered and saddened by that.
Yeah. And the concepts.
Very sad.
But I think when I stepped back and put it back into perspective, but the sadness is more for his family than anything with Aussie because they didn't get probably as much time after his final show with him as what they would have liked. And I think that's that's terribly unfair.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but as far as as a as a life well lived and A and A and a fantastic way to go out if there is such a thing, I mean, Ozzy Osbourne talk about going out on your own terms. You know, you do your final show, you're never gonna set foot on the stage again. You brought people to tears. The whole world came out for you.
Yeah, yeah.
You raised over, I think $200 million or close to that for for all the charities. Nobody profited. That gig, and then 17 days after that, you passed away with all your family around you. Your daughter had had got proposed to just got engaged. You'd seen all your grandkids who were back in England. I mean, I thought that was a really wonderful way for Aussie to go. But as a fan it was terrible. And then that made me think as well. Right. Like Jen X is I think.
Just got engaged. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Again, the generation that really kind of latched on to a lot of these pop culture icons, so we do really feel it. When some of these people that we've never met before but have been with us in through their art in, in our, in our childhood and as we've grown up pass away, it's it's it's really hard to take.
And I think too, when you're seeing people that you grew up with now starting to pass away from. I guess what you call the diseases of ageing, so things that are to do with getting older and things that happen to you, like not things like accidents or or other things that we've seen through some of our other heroes over the years. But we're starting to.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
See our heroes and people that we admired and grew up with starting to pass away because they are getting older and it really then does set in around that whole concept of mortality. And you're like, we're starting to see it happen more and more and particularly because we're looking at a 20 year span, 20 years ago, I think we're going to start to see more of that.
It's very scary.
Yeah.
Happened too.
And it's well, it's also the age of retirement is getting a lot later, right? OK. So, so Hulk Hogan was 71 when he passed away, and Ozzy Osbourne was 76. And I think the retirement age now or the age pension age in our country is 7.
Yes it is.
30 is it 70? Ohh 60s. Oh damn.
Something like that. I feel like it's somewhere around 70. Well, look, don't quote me. You probably need to Fact Check me on that, but it feels like it's around 70. So when you think about it, that puts it into perspective a little bit. I mean, you know, I didn't take steroids and then get an enlarged heart and then have it fail on me like I didn't work my heart as much as Hulk Hogan, didn't I didn't take as much cocaine.
There he goes, my mouth.
Hmm.
Sorry, any cocaine. The likes of which Ozzy Osbourne did and and lived to those excesses. But you know.
But it's also interesting the framing as well. I've heard a lot of people sort of comment in both situations. Ohh they were so young. They were so young and it's it's interesting to think about our perspective of what's old as well, because I remember when I was little, you know, 40s, fifties, that was ancient history.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, whereas now when we look at people passing in their 70s. Ohh that's pretty young.
Well, that's the thing. I don't think we were ever meant to live this long. No. Do you know what I mean? It's like if you think about us. Living that long, being meant to live that long and you look at all the marriages that I'm noticing kind of fall apart. You know, 1520 years in maybe even 10 years in. And it's like, wow, like, I guess we weren't meant to live this long. Umm, sorry. That is a little bit more. But and back to Aussie, I think that is one of the first times. I think for me. At my age that I've seen somebody who I've who's been with me all through childhood actually passed away, that I felt really, really connected to as an artist. So that was that was difficult. And I guess it's gonna start happening more and more. Like he certainly hasn't. Been the 1st. Mm-hmm. You know, but he was definitely. I don't think I've seen a more high profile. Or a a person who has spanned. And if you think about it in the context of 20 years ago, the OSBOURNES obviously was coming out and that was just a pop culture phenomena the world over. And because of that Aussies reach became bigger. I don't think I've seen anybody.
Hmm.
As UM that that has had such an impact on the entire planet as well, Ozzy Osborne did, except for maybe Hulk Hogan a couple of days later. Again, both of those people, although very different characters, I don't think there's a single person around the world who. Would not.
Who wouldn't know the name? Yeah, yeah.
Who they are, you know. And so that was that's a big deal I think.
Hmm.
And with both of them, I think when you look at legacies, it's really interesting as well because Hulk Hogan was a character who was pushed as this all American superhero type, perfect character who we found out over time became very, very flawed. And then when people found out that Hulk Hogan. Was flawed and he did have those flaws. They started to hate on him quite a bit, whereas Aussie was this really flawed. Director and people loved him because.
Of that, yeah, yeah. He he was almost endearing, wasn't. He well, he was.
Mm-hmm. And. And I think for Aussie too, cause he always thought that he'd go out with people thinking he was a bit of a clown or whatever. And that came to terms with that. But it was the complete opposite and the only thing that I really wish for Ozzy Osbourne beyond.
Hmm.
Remarkable career and amazing send off is to see how much people actually respected and adored him.
Hmm.
I think cause 80s kids too. We just spent a lot of time not hanging out with our parents. So TV and music and stuff were kind of our other parents, I guess without offending the parents. Sorry, it's, it's, it's all water under the bridge. Anyway, let's do the hatches, matches and dispatches clues, shall we?
Watching TV and listening to music.
Sure. The segment at the end of the show with the thing at the beginning of celebrity, this is a what is this? This is a dispatch. Ohh God, it's just we're really bringing the good cheer this week and positivity aren't we are a celebrity who passed away who said this?
Oh, it's a. Model.
I don't want to hurt anybody. Which is.
It's so hungry.
Too big?
I I I so understand that feeling. You know. Hungry. Too big. Don't wanna eat anyone. But I mean, you know it. I don't. I'm not sure if I could fit you in my macros. Anyway, we'll find out who that is at the end of the show.
That ain't anyone but just kind of. Over to the news 8th of August 2005, we have a big report that was released around the oil for food scandal. Now oil for food was a programme that the UN ran. I think mid 90s through to 2003 and the idea was that it would allow Iraq to sell oil in exchange for food, medicine, other humanitarian needs without violating UN sanctions that were imposed upon them after the Gulf War. They're obviously under those strict sanctions due to Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.
Hmm.
The ongoing weapons programme and the idea here was to prevent humanitarian suffering. But still isolating his regime.
Yes, still, maintaining your sanctions still sanctioning the man. But this was, I guess, not the case. Over time, it just became a vehicle for corruption and bribery and sanction busting and. And so by the early 2000s, lots of journalists and NGO's and governments began raising.
Hmm.
Concerns about mismanagement and possible corruption in this programme and then after the invasion of Iraq in 2003, some documents uncovered by coalition forces suggested there was huge fraud. That was happening by Saddam's regime, so they were getting paid kickbacks and surcharges on oil sales and bribes to foreign companies and officials and stuff. And then they established the Volcker Committee in 2000 and.
Four, and that was in response to the growing pressure. So UN Secretary General Kofi Annan appointed an independent committee, which was led by Paul Volcker. Who was a former US Federal Reserve chairman to investigate, and it launched a pretty comprehensive investigation into how the programme was managed.
Managed Mr Volcker has said from the past that he would release these documents as he no longer needed them, and we've welcomed the fact that he's done that. But you have to remember he has access to not only these internal audits, but every UN staff member, every UN document that relates to oil for food. So I think we have to wait for his final conclusion to make any judgments.
So this third report comes out on the 8th of August, and this is the bombshell moment in the whole unfolding scandal. So there's key findings that implicate a guy by the name of Bennin 7 who is the head of the oil for food programme. He's a UN official and it concluded that he took at least $147,000 in illicit oil allocations from Iraq via front companies in exchange for influencing.
MHM.
Contract decisions in Saddam Hussein's face. And he had denied this, obviously. But before the report comes out in August on the 8th of August, he resigns. Ohh, which is convenient, isn't it? Yes.
Yeah, very much so. Interesting. There are also a lot of failures in the oversight of it saying that the UN had grossly inadequate controls and failed to properly oversee the billions that were flowing through the programme. A lot of UN officials, contractors, even Member States, were implicated in turning a blind eye or actively participating in the schemes. There was involvement of lots of companies and governments.
Much bigger than the Myspace top eight list like they're saying huge.
Russia, France, China. They were named for participating in kickbacks. Or being allocated oil under some pretty shady deals. It also suggested that many foreign officials were bribed with oil allocations known as oil vouchers.
Yeah. So this guy Ben and seven or savanna or however you wanna pronounce it was charged by the US prosecution with why a fraud in 2007. After this third report came out and but he was in, he he had hightailed it out of there and escaped to Cyprus, so he never actually went to trial, and Kofi Annan, who was the head of the UN at the time he actually, I mean politically, he got a bit battered and bruised by this. Because his own son, Kojo Annan, was linked to a company. Called Cotecna that was involved in the programme, although he was never charged with wrongdoing either, but there were there was kind of obviously just a bit of speculation around that. Nothing proven. The UN then is heavily criticised for their lack of internal cheques. Like. No kidding, there's so many names that are involved and major internal reforms. Obviously, transparency, accountability, all of those things that they have to try and fix, and then companies and individuals. Bills had to pay a lot of fines or settle with US authorities for their roles in.
It they needed a framework. That's what they're saying. They're missing a framework and some project management.
Yes. Chuck a good framework and some project management and we'll have ourselves ship shape in no time. That's probably in the talking point.
Some project management. Yes, and some. Some responsible officers would have been fine.
They're like, OK, new UN person, like, how are you going to respond to this report? And he's like, well, the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna, we're gonna establish a working.
Framework.
Group. Ohh. Perfect.
And then the working group perfect. We'll put together a framework that will set a map for our a road map. Sorry, a road map. That's right. With some key milestones that we'll need to hit.
Hmm.
Road map. I think it would be a road map.
Umm.
Yes, with with good cadence with with good cadence, yeah.
With good cadence, yes, definitely making a good cadence to hit those key milestones. Yep, really strong reporting lines and we'll report back to you through those reports I.
Strong reporting lines, yeah. With some smees ongoing SMEs.
Don't. Know with some speeds? Yeah, we'll get some smees in there. That'll be good. That's a subject matter experts for those of you playing at home, I mean.
Hmm, perfect problem solved.
My goodness, what a load of. This is, though, one of the biggest financial scandals in the United Nations history $1.8 billion geez 1.8 for Saddam Hussein's regime as well. And it's I think it put forward a case study for the dangers. There we go. We'll do a case. Study how does that sound?
That's how we'll learn from our.
Mistakes of unchecked international bureaucracy bureaucracy is where they get you, where the lack of all that political oversight and interests allow corruption to just go crazy. And it did so. The UN kind of suffered a huge reputational blow because of this. I think the thing that's it, it is pretty annoying. About it though, is a lot of the biggest offenders. In this scandal, so there were people that obviously took the fall and fell on their swords were never prosecuted because of things like diplomatic immunity or foreign jurisdiction. So again, it's like, well, how tough are you really United Nations like you, Gary? You don't even carry a big stick like your logo is a bird with a twig.
Something a bit more exciting and fun on the 10th of August.
Yeah, if you can afford it, I'll tell you what. If you're a UN official, you might have a spare few bucks you could.
Well, they. There's few bill. Yes, I think.
Probably throw down on this, yeah.
They could afford they. Could afford a couple of could send about 10 people up. Private space company space adventures. Doesn't that just scream some space adventures come along to space adventures for a good time. They've announced plans to create a tourism programme that will send people around the moon. It's a 5 1/2 day.
Yeah.
Sounds legit, doesn't it? Yeah.
Lunar flights, they reckon it was gonna be ready to go by about 2000 and eight, 2009. For a call 100 million, you get an opportunity for a space walk aboard the International Space Station.
That's. That sounds terrifying.
After the first astronauts saw the Earth from space, they came back with stories of its beauty and fragility. At Space Adventures, we turned these stories into first hand experiences for commercial space pioneers. Since 2001 we have organised 8 space flights for private astronauts. Now we are giving more people the opportunity to achieve their dreams of going to space than ever before by participating in a suborbital space plane.
That's a good ad. It's it's inspiring. Yeah. Music was moving. Yeah.
Yeah. Sign me up. I'm heading down to flight centre to see if. They can do me a deal on any space adventures, you know. Do they? Is there a drinks package? Make sure you buy the drinks package. If you go, you don't take the drinks package. You could get very bored. You know, it's pretty lonely. There's not a lot to do up in space. You'd wanna have some activities that you get some shuffleboard perhaps. Maybe a couple of.
Any deals? Yeah, some overnight accommodation.
Yes.
That would be dangerous. In space, things would slip off and hit you. No, you'd need something that's tethered down tetherball. Tetherball, perfect.
In space.
Hmm.
No. So well as part of the, I don't think recreational activities are part of the package. I think they think that there is a record. I just feel like you you, I mean once.
It's cost extra.
There. OK. Like we're in space.
Hmm.
What do we do now exactly? The the package, the, the the launch via Russian Soyuz rocket, 10 days on the International Space Station. I just. I'll I'll finish a guided EV. A space walk with cosmonauts. Yes, this would have been the first space.
Are we doing? This is. Deal. That's a good amount. Of time. Also tour guides. Good.
Look by a private citizen as well, and a big leap in space tourism. But I'm like the the 10 days on the International Space Station, 10 days on that big network of tubes that is orbiting around the Earth.
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
I do. Things and it's.
What amell? What amenities are there?
Easy to do things. Yeah. And I know they've got, like, scrubbers to clean the air and stuff, but do things smell in space?
Is there a buffet? It's my question, cause if you're on there for 10 days, it's not like you can go out anywhere and get a meal.
Take a load of space food sticks from woollies.
Is there buffet? Is there a disco? Is there karaoke? What's included? Space food sticks. Great. Sounds lovely.
It's all space food sticks. You just think. Yeah. Yeah. Eat out of bags and pouches.
Uh-huh. Then you.
And you pee into like, a you wouldn't. Wouldn't wanna get confused with the thing you pee into in your oxygen mask. Cause I feel like they look a bit similar. You know things like that. That's. These are the things that keep me up.
There's. At night, folks. Great. It was a major leap in private space tourism. And as they mentioned in their promo, which is fantastic, they successfully flew a couple of people already, Dennis, Tito in 2001 and Mark Shuttleworth, that's a good last name, Shuttleworth.
Yes. Convenient surname for somebody that's going into space. What's a shuttle worth? Ohh, couple of million.
2002. The plan was technically feasible. They've done their feasibility study. Done all their research, but it was the. Logistics and the medical side of it.
Yeah. The medical side is a bit 60, isn't it, you know, yes.
That was a little bit complicated. Yes, yes, the the travel. Insurance is just.
Don't think they'd let you go if you're pregnant.
Off the charts. Somehow no. And if you drink, it's all null and void. Yeah, yeah.
Ohh really so you can't get the drinks package? Yeah, well, the space 1 didn't. That didn't happen. Anyway, the space walk one that never took place. I think it was.
No. Same.
Too, too risky. And I think, although if anyone was gonna do it, you'd think the Russians would let it. You're no problem. You get out, they go. Space well, and I think that they just there wasn't a willing candidate. Like they're like, yeah, I want to go to space. And I was like, OK, cool. We take you on a space with enough that I'm. Not going in the space.
Why didn't Lance do?
It Lance Armstrong.
No bass bass Robinson.
Ohh, Lance bass. Didn't he have a? Didn't he have a heart murmur or something?
But I think he's.
Fixed that now because he's aware of he's been aware of that for a couple of years now. In the 20 years ago timeline.
I've only made you. I don't know what happens when you're a bit older. If you're allowed to go or is there a certain age group or whatever, it's like certain height to be on the right. Look, I'm not sure.
Surely he's cashed up enough. He could have done that instead.
Hmm.
As we look forward into the future of space adventures, we are going to continue to develop our existing experiences, but we'll also add a wonderful mid-priced option that people will be able to purchase and experience for the first time. That's a suborbital Space Flight. Participants will be able to reach over 100 kilometres, experience a few minutes of weightlessness, and marvel at the earth below. But most of all, they will get their astronaut wings by having actually reached the border of space.
Ohh, it's so glorious. Actually reaching the border of space. Did you do that? When you go to like the border of like NSW and Victoria or whatever where you stand 1 foot on either side, outer space, earth, outer space. Earth. Yeah, that would be that would be.
Sold. Take my billion. Do. Take a photo. Or you stand 1 foot on either side. Yeah, we used to do that as kids. Yeah, we thought that was great. The. The Aubrey were Donga. Board. It was a favourite. Aubrey would donga with the fruit fly. That was the favourite, yeah.
That would be worth $100 million, wouldn't it? Ohh yeah, of course we gotta throw all the stuff in the beans before you drive across.
Hmm.
The border, they didn't do. Too bad. They sent between 2001 and 2009. They sent 7 tourists into space.
Well, that was the other two. They already had the two that we.
That, well, yeah, including that, that's right. But after 2010, it started to slow down a bit. It was, I think the I'm not sure I think it was the the ship Roscoe Cosmos.
Talked about the Shuttleworth.
Hmm.
Hmm it or the company? They had reduced seat availability due to bigger needs for the crew. They wanted to take more space food sticks with them or something like that. In 2020, they partnered again with a company called Ross. Cosmos and they flew Yusaku, Maezawa and their assistant Yoso Hirano to the ISS in 2021. They didn't do anything in 2022 and as of now they're still active. But SpaceX crew Dragon's probably and blue origin. You know the guy, the Jeff Bezos and his big giant *****, the ***** that he flies into space.
Ohh, is that what his was called? Blue origin. Virgins. Virgins. Got one as well.
Yeah, Virgin Galactic as well. Yeah. So that I think that's you know the focus has moved a little bit as well to Luna fly by planning and orbital private missions.
Well, SpaceX ended up getting that that big record and the yeah. Last year, September 12th to 20.
The, the and the space walk as well. Last year, yeah, yeah.
24 our first civilian to step outside a spacecraft.
Yeah, Jared, Isaac Mann was his name.
Hmm. And then SpaceX engineer Sarah Gillis followed him.
This was the youngest person ever in space. Asked to that, so it's like I'll be the first civilian. You can be the youngest civilian. They're like, deal. OK, fair enough. I don't want it. So they kind of split the glory, which I think was nice. And they were out there for a while. They're out there for.
As the youngest. Yeah, that works well.
Like an hour and 40. 6 minutes 10 minutes tethered by Billy Goulds nearly 870 miles above the Earth. Farthest anyone has ventured in space since the Apollo missions, and again, I say that.
Good.
Do sport.
Hmm.
You you. You're a cricket fan, aren't you, Mel? You like it about as much as you like. NASCAR, I think, don't you? No, I.
Don't like cricket? Although I do have some nice memories of staying down at Maloneys Beach in the summer and my uncle was obsessed with cricket and he come and stay with us for a couple of days with my cousins and we'd have to.
The.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Sit there and watch it and he just?
What's the what's the cricket? Get the score.
I don't know, I think cause he was into it. We all got a little bit caught up and that was the Merv days. Yeah, wouldn't mind Mervin.
The good, the good old days, yeah.
And the zinc cream. And so we all wore zinc cream when we're at the beach because we're like, that's cool. Those guys are wearing sink. We're gonna do it too.
Yeah.
It's well, it's protect you from the sunburn as well.
So that's, that's about my connection with cricket. Ohh French cricket, I'm.
Well and well.
Pretty good at that.
I think like 20 years ago. Warning. Warning. I mean we got a warning story. 11th of August 2005. The third Ashes test at Old Trafford. Shane Warne, the great Shane Warne becomes the first bowl.
Warning news.
Good.
In history to take 600 test wickets.
What's that done now, then? Yes, out. 600 Test match wickets for Shane Warne. What a moment.
The whole ground is standing, but I fancy it's not so much for Marcus Trescothick but for Shane Warne.
Sister and brother.
600th wicket has come off slightly unorthodox fashion off the back of Trescothick's bat on to Adam Gilchrist knee and up into his gloves and the end of Marcus Trescothick and what a moment for the great leg spinner.
Yes, it was an awkward catch by Gilchrist, but a catch nonetheless. And of course, Marcus still counts just Gothic, who attempted to sweep the ball and edged it off the back of his bat into Gilchrist's knee, and then his hands, which marked the landmark wicket it was pitched outside off stump, turned in shy. Probably wasn't perfect. Warning doesn't mind. I think anything Warny does is pretty much perfect anyway, and the crowd didn't either. He was very happy and he was mobbed by his teammates and everyone applauded him was great the third test.
Warning was ink. Well, he was zinc always on his lips and then his nose he.
Yeah, he did. Was he had very fair compassion, he needed to protect it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, he was he. He's gotta protect his lips. He used to use them a lot when he was off.
Completely confident with his zinc cream, wasn't he? Did you ever do it? The field you never do that when you had the cause. Remember we got in in the. 80s and 90s. You got the fluorosis. Yeah. And there was like there was, like, orange and pink and green. Did you ever be, like, a bit of a ***** **** and do do designs on your face like dots and stripes? We did that and then got horribly sunburnt and we were stuck with those stupid patterns on our faces for weeks.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
I did. I painted my face up like The Ultimate Warrior from the wrestling, and then and as a consequence I had like. I was inverted so I had, like this sunburn goatee thing going.
On I had dots and stripes and zarks and all kinds of things, and I had to go back to school.
Sunburn goatee. Yeah.
With it.
Yeah. So, same I just had, like this beetroot red goatee, very weird, swollen lips as well. Or should you use some think cream anyway? Well done with warning on that. I think it was the 3rd test I believe that was a draw that or that match injured in a drawer anyway which made the Series 11 entering into the test English.
There's no warnings fault. Thanks. Warning.
England posted 444 runs. Warren finished with figures of four for 99 in that innings, picked up three more wickets in England's first innings across the second day, and then he scored 90 runs off 122 balls to help Australia reach 302 in salvage draw, which was a big deal. But unfortunately England won the Ashes that year 21, which we'll probably talk about a little bit later on.
Come on, boys.
He waves to the crowd. Not just one of the greatest cricketers to have played the game, but one of the greatest personalities.
I got that music and the chance to kiss.
Oh, you like that Lady Crystal? Blueberry. Yummy.
I don't know. Mel was just trying to offer explain to me a ludicrous song and that was.
Yeah, it's good. I'd never heard it up until like I said, about 3 weeks. Ago blueberry young.
Have I heard it now? I'm not sure, probably not. Anyway, it's the music segment. Sorry. Yeah.
Yes, yes. Something you have heard. Still number one in Australia, crazy frog.
Crazy flog. That's what people refer to me as. It's it's not a podcast of that crazy flog. He's so annoying. That's enough.
Same number one over in the UK.
Also enough.
Not same as in crazy frog. Same as in same as last.
No. Song as last week, James Blunt there.
And top five in the US.
Have got.
Yes.
You wish your girlfriend was hot like me. Don't you wish your girlfriend was a freak like me like me? There ain't nobody there.
It.
Yeah, that's it's just moved around a little bit from last.
Hmm.
Week.
Think it's all the same so. Things, yes, we belong together. Marisol #1. Pondy. Replay. #2. Don't you #3 let me hold you number.
It is. Yes, but it's and this is the thing. It's it's. It's two weeks. Like I said in the intro, it's like 2 weeks between when we record like today I'm talking you today. It's the same week that Hulk Hogan and Ozzy.
4 #5.
Yeah, I can't remember what happened 2. Weeks ago. Osbourne we tell the same anecdotes and stories sometimes cause I listen to 1 and I go. I'm pretty sure I said that.
An eye.
Last time when I listened back. Yeah, sorry. Sorry to hear the same stories again. Here they go again. Yeah.
Maybe how long our long suffering are our listeners. They're so nice. They're just like, ah, God bless them. Yeah, all 30. Something of you. Thanks. Appreciate this.
This is what happens when you get older. You tell the same stories. It's alright. They're good stories. Yeah, some.
Uh-huh. Yep.
We haven't. I know we haven't spoken about the Bow Wow song. Let me hold you. We spoke about the album when he dropped the little and moved to bow. Wow. We had that discussion. We had that discussion. We talked about him on the cameo where he's on the cameo. So we haven't spoken about the song. So this is the.
Fair enough. Ohh OK.
Yeah. Yeah, and just became Bow Wow. Bow Wow, where he's boy. His bark broke. Yeah. How much was he? He was like 1000 bucks or.
1.
Something he was.
He. He was a bit spendy. Well, The thing is, he's just released a new song with.
Yeah.
Chris Brown.
So we don't know, we know if.
I don't think, well, I don't. I don't know. I feel like the world's maybe forgiven Chris, but I don't know. I I still have feelings. But anyway, he's been. Yeah, he's been doing a lot of stuff. So that's why he's expensive. That's the thing. Cameo. They're usually cheaper if they.
We like him anymore.
Yeah.
Just haven't been doing.
Haven't been doing much, or if they've been doing stuff at a.
Well, they haven't been touring or.
Bit of a different level.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they're doing the cruise. Hmm, maybe a bit cheaper than for doing sold out stadium, too. So yeah, Bow Wow's a little bit spendy on the.
Right. OK, right.
Cameo but this song let me hold you. This was the one featuring Omarion from B2K. Your favourite? Yes, from boys of the new Millennium. I think it's BTK. Yeah. Boys of the new Millennium.
I'm a moron. Is that what B2K is? Boys at the new Millennium? It's a complex abbreviation.
It is that that's not B2K just doesn't scream. Boys of the new medium. To me, it should have been B Y2K. Then I probably would have said boys of 2000, but that's closer. B2K just feels like a measurement.
No, I'm not sure what that is. Yeah.
Maybe, yeah. Or it feels like something you'd measure out for your recipe. That'll be a B2K of flour. Or something. I don't know. This feels like a measurement.
Really.
B2K of flower, I guess back in a tick or something. I like. I'm reaching here. I'm trying to be. I'm trying to be supportive.
Yeah, like, I don't know, like.
Ohh.
Ohh, maybe it's text speak. B. Yeah, no, I got my.
It it sounds like a a a a basketball game like some kind of basketball game that maybe came out in in. I was going to say.
Ohh, maybe position you know, like goalkeeper. Like GK and you were the B2K. You're the B2K on the team.
I was gonna say any 2000 B 2K. Well, you could see it on the on the netball bib. Yeah, on a netball bib. What position would B2K be on a netball? I'm not even necessarily. I'm not even sure.
You know the B2K. You're a blocker. You're blocking the number 2 keeper. You're the blocker of the number.
Ah.
Two keeper yes.
Blocking the number 2 keeper, which basically means that you don't let anyone go into the toilets.
Bow Wow lead singer from his album wanted. Yeah.
I'm glad that we got to the bottom of that. You know, it took a bit, but I feel like it was worth it, yeah.
Yeah, OK. Take back the measurement. I like. I like your definition better. Yeah. Lead singer from his album wanted. He ditched the little. Yeah, this is actually the first top ten hits. Can you believe it? For both bow. Wow. And Omarion as a solo artist, B2K had a number one, this is.
Uh-huh.
But he's not well, that's not a solo artist.
Solo moron. Well, he's a solo artist. He's. Featuring bow out, yes.
Ohh Bow album solo not Omarion as a solo.
No omarion's solo, so this is the first OK.
She's solo artist.
Let's start again. This is the first top ten hit for bow. Wow. Yes. Bow Wow. Little bow. Wow. Any type of bow? Wow. First bow. Wow. Top 10.
It doesn't make sense. Right. First bowl, top ten, top 10.
And 1st and 1st top 10 for Omarion as a solo artist. So the solo artist applies to Omarion only, not to Bow Wow. Bow has always been solo. Yeah, Omar Ryan. This is the first time he's in the top 10.
Right. OK. Yes. So.
When he's not in the the. Blocking the the toilet keeper.
Right. And what does? What does B2K stand for against? Yeah.
What is it the new?
Millennium Ohk OK.
For as the new the music video was directed by Brian Barber and it Stars Bow Wow and Omarion at a house party at allegedly, they're navigating interpersonal drama and flirtation. That's what the synopsis said. Watch as they navigate.
Ohh right. Well that makes things yes.
Into personal drama and flirtation.
With hilarious results.
Jermaine Dupri pops up. He's a notable visual notable visual from Jumanji, Apri.
Ohh and a cameo? Yes, a notable visual yeah. Ohh look, there's a Germaine. 3.
Yes, yes. Points for spotting and a young future before he rose to fame.
Young. Ohh. His name. Futures his name.
Future futures the rapper we've spoken about just before and felt that that was that was a weighty name. Just yeah. Don't call yourself future.
Problematic snacks. Problematic, yeah.
And the video ends on a cliffhanger, which is directly continued in his next video, like you can't wait till like you hit the top five of them. We can.
The sequel.
Talk about how the interpersonal drama and flirtation continues to B there.
Continues. Yes. What will become of little bow? Wow. And I'm a moron.
To be continued.
Will they be prevented from entering the bathroom by the B2K? I don't know. I've got nothing really.
Hi there.
That was great. I enjoyed that Tommy Lee. Released an album as well.
Ohh he did.
This week, 20 years ago.
Tommy Lee was he was popular. I think he released.
Would popped. He popped back up.
Well, he's he's autobiography.
20 years ago. He's just sort of hanging around. A bit, wasn't he?
Yeah. And he was just, like, a cool dude, and he's autobiography came out Tommy Land.
Yeah.
Yes, the reality show, which we'll talk about next week is just about to come out.
Yes, which we'll tell he's got his reality show where he goes to college. So he's. And with that, he's released his second solo album called The Ride. And this is this is a pop album really. It's a pop rock album. He joined forces with a big roster. He had Butch Walker.
Hmm.
Lots of people.
He did good times with Butch Walker and Andrew McMahon. He did. Hello again, Chad Kroger trying to beat me from Nickelback, Dave Navarro. Joel Madden, Nick Carter. Matt. Sorry. Derek whibley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a lot of different stuff on there, and I think the one that everyone kind of really would remember.
Other crates, yeah.
Backstreet boy.
If at all. Only because it was the theme on the show as well. It was good times.
Place where?
Place where there's.
Ohh that takes me back to. I used to voice the promos for Tommy Lee goes to college. That was the theme song and I used to do.
It's not a bad song.
The promos and. We in Australia, we obviously got it a bit later, yeah. And we aired it on the same night as Pamela's show stacked. And so the promo was Pammy and Tommy Lee are together again, Thursdays on prime. Loved it. Yeah, it was good. It was good. Tommy Lee goes to college, followed by staff.
Ohh really, Pam and Tommy? Ohh, that's gold. That's good. That's very. Stacked well, yeah, I I I do think.
From 7:30 on prime.
I think that Tommy, I mean, he was trying to do this pop thing and the the unfortunate thing is he was in his early to mid 40s at this stage. So he's trying to appeal to a younger audience and it's just like it's just a little bit creepy old man.
Yes.
Yeah, it's just it's a bit, it's a bit pesty. Yeah, bit of a pest.
Bit pesty borderline, I would say borderline. Tommy Lee's still kind.
Yeah, dad.
Cool, but like.
Just it's like the old dude that you know, at that the mature age student at uni that goes to bar night and just kind of lurks and you're like he he puts his dollar down on the pool table and you're like, I don't know if I.
Yeah, starting to it's it's it's bought. It's getting into that territory. It's getting into that territory, isn't it? But I would say it's like he was trying something. I think that a lot of people in the business weren't doing at the time, and it was more of a multimedia project. So you had a plan. So and I think this is like.
Wanna play pool with you? Yeah, yeah.
You know, before streaming and all of those things. So he he's he's got an album, he's got a book, he's got a TV show and he's trying to.
Is the book.
Is that the one that's told from? The point of view of his.
Ohh yeah, he has it. He he interviews his penis in the book. Yeah, he has a conversation with his penis in the book. It's actually not a bad read, to be honest with you.
Fella.
It's quite an interesting. Yeah. It's not terrible, I read. It when we were like going filming we had.
A long drive. There's a child like stupidity to it all as there is to just Tommy Lee in general. But but so but. But yeah, like he's, you know, he's got this plan. He's got a three pronged attack which is good because Tommy's only been really renowned for one problem.
It's not terrible, yeah.
Music news. OK, yes. So we're still well, that was that music news now. That was an album release.
That was an album release, but we had a big.
This is music news.
Story.
My feet 10 feet off of you.
But do you really feel?
Oh, I loved that song. What?
And you're like. Why are you playing walking in Memphis? Like that's a 90s song?
I don't care. I'm not going to ask you why you've just taken me back to video hits back in the.
Day. Love that song.
Man Muriel plays piano every Friday at the Hollywood Reverend Green will be glad to see you. You're the king down in the jungle room. And are you a Christian child man? I am tonight. Yeah. Walking in Memphis. Well.
Are they at the Hollywood something waiting for the thing down in the jungle room? Man. Yes, great, great.
Mark Cohn, the the singer of walking in Memphis on the 7th of August, HMM, was shot in the head.
Good. Yes. I never knew this and that I loved that song, but I never knew.
He was shot in the head. He was on tour with Suzanne Vega.
Got shot in the head. My name is Luca. I live on.
Yes, she's Luca. My name is Luca. I live on the 2nd floor. Good. Hey, my name's Mark. I've been for a walk in Memphis. And how's it going, Luca? He's they're in Denver. They're on tour in Denver, Co and somebody tries to carjack.
The second floor. Upstairs from you. Guys think you see me put.
Him as he is in and his entourage of getting into the van after a concert.
Why would you carjacked the singer performing?
And well, the car Jacker fires a shot into the van. The bullet goes through the windshield, grazes the tour manager's chin and lodged itself just short of Cohen's skull near his right temple, narrow, narrowly missing his eye. So he was shot in the head. Yes, and he was conscious through the entire thing.
So, like fully went into his. Geez.
Ohh gosh.
So they took him to the medical centre at the ambulance. All of that sort of stuff. I mean, I'll. Let him.
I heard Mark say, my God, I think I've.
Been hit. I touched myself and there was blood all over my hands. So this thought that, Oh my God, I'm not going to. Get home. It was terror, disbelief. And just, you know, a prayer. Just please don't let this be it.
And I could see a perfectly round hole in his head. Which I knew had to be a bullet.
And Shane said yes, it's alright man. It's all right now. I've been travelling with Shane for 7-8 years so I know him pretty well and I heard his words but his face said it's not.
Alright. Yeah. Could you imagine, I mean.
Ohh my God, what would be going through your minds?
Well, I've obviously dispensed with it. Well, a piece of lead.
Yeah, that's just.
They've dispensed with the car Jacker. Obviously I don't. I guess he's not in the picture anymore. He's obviously fired the gun and then run off and and yeah, it's it's lodged. It's he lodged itself in his temple. And because I think the windshield combined with the chin of the tour manager.
Yeah. The chin, thank God for the chin. It must have been. A robust chin.
It slowed the bullet down enough so that it's.
Chiselled. Jawline.
It lodged itself in his head, but it stopped at his skull and yes, and the window it's, it is. And Reverend Green would have been glad to see him. He had a prayer that night like he said. So yeah, he's conscious through the whole thing at the at the medical centre. And then they they observed him for 8 hours and then they let him go. They didn't take the bullet out.
The chin slowed it down.
That's crazy.
Hmm.
Ohh, we're left it in there.
That happened later. Yes. Yeah, they took it out a little bit later. Well, they had to. They had to have surgery. So they just put him under observation. They went well. It's in there, but you'll be alright. I mean it's it's kind of a good conversation piece. Yeah, it is. What you think it is? Yeah, that's a bullet. Yeah. How did it happen? I'm glad you asked. So the doctors are like, he's the luckiest unlucky guy that they've ever seen.
What? Had. Keep it despite ohh. Walking around with a bullet in your hair. Did we find? Yeah, that's a mullet.
Hmm.
So I mean, I guess that's fairly true. The shooter himself, Joseph, Yachting, his name was 36 years in prison for attempted first degree murder, for trying to shoot The Walking in Memphis Guy.
Walking in Memphis.
What the **** were you thinking?
U.S. box office number one this week 20 years ago Dukes of Hazzard.
Mother.
Holy.
Meet the Dukes.
Y'all thinking catch me now.
When it comes to the law, well. Bo and Luke are against it. Cousin Daisy works it.
Ohh boy, I'm gonna get fired. Where's pass hub? And get Angus.
And Uncle Jesse just won't stand for it. Johnny Knoxville. I'm Mr Ichikawa and this is Yoko Takanashi.
Are you Japanese?
We converted.
Sean William Scott.
Boy, is this your roommate from.
Australia. Let's put another Bobby. That's what they say there, OK?
Jessica Simpson.
Better be read my name tag friend.
I noticed your initials were double D.
How about special Sir?
Burt Reynolds. Find the Duke. And Willie Nelson.
I'll see you on the other side.
Dukes of passive.
What seems to be the problem? Sure.
I think something bounced up into my undercarriage.
I really enjoyed this movie. I really liked it. I really enjoyed it and it was. I don't think it'd get made today.
Now you do. No, it was a very early 2000s kind of remake.
Yeah, yeah.
Wasn't it it? Was really loud. Very busy. Lots of ****, lots of butts. Reboot of the 80S TV show real. There was a lot of flash on display.
It was great. I mean, there was no nudity, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was great. It's really enjoyable. It was just a very pleasant film from start to finish. I had a bit of everything, bit of action, bit of comedy, bit of flesh.
Moonshine. Great. Obviously Jessica Simpson and.
Yeah.
Big dumb popcorn fun. It was really. I mean, you know, the Dukes of Hazzard story. All those people that would have watched the show would have been thrilled. I thought the casting for this was great. I thought that Johnny Knoxville as Luke Duke and Sean Williams Scott as Bo Duke were awesome casting. I thought Burt Reynolds's boss Hogg was Jean. Yes. And I thought Willie Nelson as Uncle Jesse was just the most adorable thing ever. And then Jessica Simpson as Daisy Duke. I don't think that they could have picked a more perfect Daisy Duke. I thought she was great as Daisy, but I I think it was problematic on set.
He. Right. You liked her. You liked her as Daisy. I think there was a lot of, well, there was a lot of criticism for over sexualising. Lazy because her character wasn't traded. Actually like that and I think the actress that played the original Daisy was not overly impressed with that. There was a lot of lowbrow humour. I think too there was a bit of chatter about some diva behaviour from her, whether or not that was true or rumour, I don't know. But they did say.
No. Was not happy with the treatment. I mean, it was a trashy 80s TV show, you know?
Well.
She was she was quite big at the time, big at the time and and the I think the song, the song and the film clip.
Difficult onset. Boots are made for walking.
That really did over shadow. It was designed obviously, to promote the film, but I think it promoted her more than the film and I think that's what everyone got really about.
And there was that scene. And that scene as well, where she's washing the car and just I think, took the spotlight from the film itself and felt that the movie was a bit of a.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah, a bit of a vehicle to promote her music and all of her other interests that were happening at the. Time I she wasn't.
And I think when you talk about like vehicles as well, you've got like, you know, the Confederate flag painted on the roof of the car, which is a little bit problem.
That was also yes also.
Attic these days.
Problematic and I don't think I, I don't think she was really a trained actress either. So I think she did struggle. Yes, to act. She struggled with the tone and the style of of the movie and I think some of the more experienced.
No.
Actors weren't overly impressed. Yeah, yeah.
I I don't think the actors got on all that well with her. I don't think so. And I think Willie Nelson. Just Willie Nelson, the entire home having a great time. Could you imagine being Willie Nelson on the set of that? You've got Johnny Knoxville and Sean Williams Scott driving around in cars, carrying on stupid, doing heaps of stunts. You've got Jessica Simpson parading around in a bikini, you know, behaving like a diva the entire time, and probably entourage and management, all that stuff. And there's Willie Nelson just sitting in his caravan.
You're just having a great time. Yeah, in the in. The trailer.
Smoking joints just kind of this is freaking great.
Having a great time. Yeah. And I'm getting paid.
That was such a good time, so good.
For this fabulous. Here in Australia, the island is still number one on the small screen, though we had a really, really big reality debut with the girls next door slash girls with the Playboy Mansion.
We watched this show so much. We enjoyed it. Yeah, I thought it.
I.
Loved it. I loved it. Used to be on it was on on a Tuesday after I got home from yoga.
Was pretty good too, yeah. It was a simpler time. He'd come home and just watch this trip. Actually, reality TV, of which this was obviously this, the osbournes.
And I think, well, I think with this.
Hogan knows best. All of those shows.
1 I think. I think with this one at first, we didn't really know what to expect because so in America it was called the girls next door because Playboy Mansion was so big over there. The term, the girls next door made sense.
Synonymous with?
And so they wanted for an international audience. They felt that they had to be more explicit and put the word Playboy Mansion in there. And I remember when they were advertising it on was it EE or one of those?
Bit more Nitro.
Rules. And I remember thinking of VH1. I remember thinking what Playboy Mansion, what the heck is this going to be about? I was so confused and then it came on and these three women were all just so likeable I loved.
It yeah, they. Were good characters. They were really good characters and they I I I I don't know.
Yeah. Loved all of them.
I mean, I'm quite cynical about it these days. I don't know if they were cast or.
Yeah.
Whatever. But you had Kendra Wilkinson, who was the more tomboy sporty character.
Very competitive. When I play sports, I don't care what sport it is. When I walked onto. The court. I'm like this is. So cool with all these people watching you play tennis. That's the best guy to show off and burn up. Array tries to get his attention and I'm just one of those lucky people that he likes to watch.
And then you had had. So Kendra was the the younger one of them.
And she was the one that just spoke her mind. That's what I loved about her. And she got on with everyone. She was always so lovely to all the staff in the mansion, and she just hilarious.
Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes. And then you had Bridget, who? I guess she was more of. She was a. Little bit more ditzy.
Yeah.
But but very wholesome, very like just all round, nice kind of girl.
Yeah.
One of the actors came over to me and he said, do you see where this is going? And I was like, not really. Well, you're gonna need this. And he hands me a shiny silver gun. And he's like, you need to hide it. OK. Oh my God.
Yeah, she was the more she was more. She was very enthusiastic.
Yeah. And she was in too, but she was into like Ohh ghost stories and haunted houses and things like that too. And she had a whole remember she had that collection.
It's like a cheerleader. Yeah.
Of spooky dolls in her room.
Yeah, but she was kind of a bit Disney as well. She bit Disney a bit kind of Tim Burton and then, but then you had the alpha, the alpha.
Love her?
The alpha Bunny. Holly Madison.
I don't get jealous of other girls because I was raised in a cloning lab to be the perfect woman. For Hugh M Hefner. So other than the fact that my IQ is probably a little higher than he would like, I have nothing to worry about.
And they just. No, she didn't either. But she was like his main squeeze. Or she positioned himself as the as the alpha.
She was girlfriend #1 and I think wasn't it even that when when they were out together, she sat in a certain spot next to him like she was on the left or the right? I don't know which one, but that was her. That was her place. She had to be the one that was right next to.
Yeah. She was always there. Yeah. Yes.
And I think cause Kendra came in a bit later than the other two and I think Holly was there first.
Yeah.
But she she made it very clear that she was girlfriend #1. And I think in her mind she was waiting for that proposal. I think she she truly believed that there was a a proposal coming for her.
From Hefner. She. Going to marry you? Like I don't know, I in hindsight, I I feel like and obviously there's been a lot of stuff in there. When you look at the rearview mirror for this one. But I feel like it was quite manufactured.
Hmm.
The short yeah.
And and I feel like it was more about probably working that Playboy brand more so than the personalities, but what ended up happening was, is the personalities of these girls won over like, you know, the brand of Playboy played second fiddle to the personalities of the girls, and then you'd break it right down and you'd be like, Oh well.
Yeah, yeah.
What the? Am I actually watching like these three young girls are in this relationship with this old man and you're expecting me to believe that, like, and you're expecting me to believe that they're not gold diggers or they're not after fame or fortune or whatever, and you're expecting me to believe that they actually have relations with this guy? Like I'm not buying it.
Yes.
I tried.
Not to think about that.
But you're happy too. That's the foundation for the whole thing.
I have. But I just. I just loved them. I loved the parties and the events they they were just crazy for decorating. They loved a theme. Like if I was ever going to throw a big party, I'd get them as party planners like they were so good at decorating and.
They were.
Thing they went on amazing adventures overseas. The travel with strict rules though I remember like they weren't allowed to drink or they're only allowed to have one or two drinks and they had to be back by a certain time. Remember they had to be.
Pretty.
Ah.
The whole thing was.
Back by a certain time or they'd get in trouble.
They had a lot of controls put on them for sure and that's that's that. I think that was the thing for guys like guys are watching and he's this crotchety old dude. Hmm. You know, and he's got 3 girls like this, and you're just like, mate, like.
Yeah. Really. And I think I think over the years we've found out more and more and I actually feel a bit guilty for enjoying it so. Now, because a lot of them, a lot of the not just the three, but a lot of other, a lot of other girls of the mansion have come out and said what it would, what it was actually like behind the scenes.
So this confuses me because this this happened posthumously. I'm not fully across this so I might end up putting my foot in it here, but but I felt like it was a bit weird to kind of.
And.
Use this as your vehicle to obtain fame, right? Become known because of this show become known because of the Playboy brand or whatever, and then once Hugh Hefner's in the grave and he has got no right of reply.
Hmm. Yes.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, then, the stories start coming out.
You say it. It could be, though they might have signed NDA's and maybe the NDA lasted with his lifetime potentially, and maybe and maybe they couldn't be, and maybe they couldn't be sued. At that point I don't know, but also I mean look at the ages. They were early 20s and.
Ohh OK well that is. Look, it's a very litigious society and I'm a pretty simple guy, so. You know, yeah.
I mean, think about your early 20s and if you got offered a reality show where you were living in the Playboy Mansion and you didn't mind getting your ***** out a.
Yeah, you'd can. You'd consent. You'd consent to all of it, wouldn't you? You'd consent to all of it. This is better than where I've maybe come from.
Bit like it's a pretty good lifestyle. And I guess when you look at some of the other things that people are doing now on things like only fans and making money like how how different is it really, but it it it did, I think Holly brought out a couple of books. There was one called down the rabbit hole which revealed emotional manipulation, the rules.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And a lot of dysfunction inside the mansion. Kendra obviously had her own spin-off reality show. I think that was with her husband at the time, but then went through a pretty messy divorce. Yeah, he was. Was he a basketballer? Kendra. He was a. Yeah, the guy that she was with his last name was bucket or something, wasn't it something?
Hank Basket now he's an NFL player.
Like ohh basket. Ohh. Well, it was a sport and it was. A basket not.
Is it NFL player Hank? Hank basket? Yeah, yeah, I look, I the.
A bucket? Yes anyway.
The I I guess to like these guys had they've not come from rich backgrounds or wealth or anything like that. So they've moved to it's that classic story of it's like something out of a glam metal song from like the the 80s, right? It's like coming to LA to find fame and fortune and.
Oh.
Yeah.
You know. And then you and you get it somehow and you might not agree with it wholeheartedly, but you find out you're in the like you're in the middle of it before you even realise what's going on, right?
I always remember the episode when Kendra's mum came to visit and she was just as starstruck and she was just so proud of her baby doing this and being there and it was almost like did you encourage her to do?
Yeah. Yeah.
It was. I mean, you had an interesting dynamic.
Like if you were a parent and your daughter brought home Hugh Hefner.
Ohh Hendrix mum. Thought it was great and Holly obviously went on to do Hollye world. Her show in Vegas. Yeah, she hosts the podcast at the moment with Bridget and they do behind the scenes on the episodes and has a daughter. Pretty low key. I don't think Kendra.
And.
Ohh, so they're still mates. There you go, yeah.
Still talks to the other two, though, but yeah, Bridget, I think Bridget may have done some acting, and she's definitely into the ghost stuffs. Yeah, I think she may have married a director of a horror film. Nicholas Carpenter. See. Horror. Yeah. Horror royalty.
Yes, yes. Yeah, he's like John Carpenter's son.
Ah, there you go.
Yeah, very famous director, very strong bloodline with horror films. The carpenters, not the band. Not why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near? Not those carpenters. The other ones. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, well, Kendra, Kendra's got a real estate show now. She does. She sells real estate.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And she's got a show called Kendra sells Hollywood.
Yeah, she pops up on my socials from time to time and she's she's done a lot of body positivity stuff as well because she she's had a lot of criticism over how she looks over the years and she's just sort of turned around and gone. Well, if you this is me and.
Yeah. You know, and I think you're right too. I do think, you know in your early. Monies as much as you are classified as an adult, yeah. You make stupid decisions and you do allow yourself to be groomed and manipulated. There is no doubt. Hmm. And.
And it was, it was obviously positioned as a very glamorous lifestyle. And I think I mean the three of them in one of the episodes ended up doing a Playboy shoot. So it wouldn't have surprised me even if they weren't his. Girlfriends that they probably were still interested in being Playboy models anyway, so.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, but I do. Yeah, I do kind of feel guilty now that I enjoyed it so much after hearing, I guess, the impacts that it's had on them later in life.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think they'd be spending most of their time running around that mansion trying to hide those blue tablets. Dukes that we did not.
Hmm.
Eat no New York Times bestseller.
I wonder what value people find in this segment. Sometimes they're like, OK, so the concept is that they're gonna sit here and talk about books that they didn't read. I I have a really good time and I loved it when Lois dropped in a couple of.
I enjoy.
It.
I enjoy it. I don't care. No one else.
Likes it.
Ohh, that was yeah, that was very special, wasn't it? I just. I just love. I just love that people go on to good reads and I just love the things that they write. So I yeah, I don't care if no one.
Weeks ago as well, that was. Wonderful. Was incredibly special.
Else likes this. I enjoy it. Enjoy. Enjoy finding out about these books and what people.
Yeah. Good.
Lifeguard this very close to me. I was.
I've been saying Lois is. They've been saying Lois's car parked outside our house. Just every, every day. You're a lifeguard once. Really. Did you have, like, a little red dumb flotation device that you ran with? Are you?
A lifeguard once. Did you know that? Ohh, she doesn't. I was a lifeguard once, so I feel a connection to. This or the? Lifeguard I did. I did. I held it.
Kidding.
I've got a photo of me with it.
And. Was. On a rope, yes. And did did you run in slow motion?
Yes, it's like they watch just like Bay watch. No, no. But it's just other than that exactly the same as Baywatch. Exactly the same looks just like Panama.
Us. Really. Just worth of price of admission. Have you? Did you have a red swimsuit? As well.
No, no, it was a. A Speedo was black Speedo. So that was the rules. Had to wear a black Speedo.
Ohh yeah.
Yeah, I don't know how good I would have been if someone was actually drowning. I don't think I would have been very. Good.
Maybe we could, we could role play it later on, if you like. Just to see. I'll. I'll be. Yes, I'll be the judge of that. I'll be happy to compress them. Sorry. What? What are we talking about? Ohh, book.
But I held it, held it. Well. Would you like some chest compressions, would you? Lifeguard by James Patterson and Andrew is it Andrew Gross or Andrew Gross? I'm saying gross.
Yes. Ohh it's called it. The book is called life guard. Depends on what side of the I don't know. So the book's called lifeguard.
What do you say? Lifeguard by James Patterson. We've spoken about James Patterson before. Very popular in the early 2000s.
We have spoken.
About Jack James Patterson? Yeah, I'm just. I guess we need to do a synopsis, don't we? What are we thinking? Is it like?
Yes, please. Well, the first sentence says the wildest thriller yet, so I'm guessing thriller.
OK, so maybe like a? Something like this then I think.
Yes, perfect.
The wildest thriller yet, from quote one of America's most influential authors. New York Times, working as a lifeguard at a luxurious Florida resort. Ned Kelly. What?
You cannot. Your character Ned Kelly. That's trademark. Surely that's a trademark infringements. Wow.
A cat. No. Stop. Stop. Hold the phone. It's I'm not liking this already. Ned Kelly meets the woman of his dreams. It feels perfect in every way, except for the fact that even Kelly is not a lifeguard at a luxurious Florida resort.
Miss Kelly, imagine him trying to rescue someone in that helmet. He'd sink.
And that well, I think that's that he could retrieve them off the bottom of the pool quite easily putting. Yes, it feels perfect in every way, apparently, except that she's used to caviar and Manolo blahniks. And he's. I don't know what that is. And ohh their shoes are they Manolo blahniks their shoes. Right. Caviar and shoes.
Shoes. Yes.
That's a weird fetish, isn't it?
They're expensive shoes. Sex in the city. The Sarah, Sarah Jessica Parker liked made them famous, and sex in the city.
Yes, area caviar and shoes. Ohh really? What did she wear them on her face? So sorry.
Wow, get back to your synopsis.
And he Ned Kelly's used to burgers and flip flops and you know. Heists, shooting people and wearing, you know, metal on his body. So when Ned's cousin offers to cut him in on a fast break and enter job, oh, this is sounding more net. Of course he can't turn it down. It's in his DNA. The risk is higher. The reward is even greater. $5,000,000. But the robbery goes devastatingly wrong. Forced to run away from his town. And the woman he's fallen.
****.
Yeah.
OK, now, yes, that's good. That's fine.
In love with. Ned Kelly retreats to the town of Glen Rowan, in the Wangaratta district. No, he doesn't he, but he knows that only distances and secrecy can save him. Life. That's what happens. Who's chasing him? The FBI who over sabotaged the heist? Or is it all somehow tied into his new love and his oldest enemies? Or is his rampaging in paranoid? Who knows? Find out in lifeguard by James Patterson and Andrew Gross.
Who knows? Gruff.
Else.
Or gross.
Becks one star too many exclamation points. Not enough lifeguarding, yes.
Yeah.
Lauren darling, one star. I bet she does. This will be the first and last time I take a book recommendation from my husband. Yeah, Lauren, like, what are you thinking?
Well, maybe her husband, like, owns a Ute with such as life across the back.
He's.
Of looks like he. This is a book about Ned Kelly. Love. You're gonna you're. Gonna love.
It's got Ned Kelly in it and it's it's like a it's like, yeah, it's like, what if Ned Kelly was a lifeguard?
It probably some circle work. Shooting should be great.
Lock up.
Wow.
Shelley one star. The writing is clunky. There's gratuitous sex, and the ending is stupid.
Uh-huh.
Sorry, there's gratuitous sex should at least get an extra star. It should be at least two stars for that.
Stupid ending.
Becky one star. I feel like Becky's like, oh, my God. Probably not good at all. Extra bonus though, the book was in large print and I didn't have to wear my glasses. That is good, maybe not warrants a star, Rob.
One star. It makes no conceivable sense as to why Stratton hired a heist crew to steal art that he himself had sold weeks before, and his wife found out about the plan and stole a very valuable piece in order to blackmail him. This book should never have existed, I think Robb.
Right.
Dropped a spoiler bomb, but then?
He said oh, Oh dear. You can't. Dude. That's a massive faux par on good reads. You can't drop spoilers in your.
Normally, good reads blurs it out and says this is blurred because of spoilers, but then Anne enters the chat and comments.
Yeah, well, he didn't there.
On Rob's review and. It really annoys me when famous authors have their name printed on the cover of someone else's novels, so Anne is theorising. James didn't actually write the book.
Ah ohh. So they just.
What? That's a big pool.
It's so she's like, this is not James's modus operandi. It's not.
This is not James Patterson. Doesn't even doesn't have his stank. On it at all.
No.
Not at all. Then Rob comes back on to Ann's comment. He's seen one comments popped up in his notifications on the good reads. You have one comment on your review and Robb.
Ohh, robs back in, she threw. He's throwing her a bone.
Wow.
On. Yeah, I better go check this out. So then Rob replies to Anne, this could have been better if it had just been Andrew Gross. Thanks for the comment, Anne, maybe we can talk sometime.
Yeah, go, rob.
That gratuitous sex? Yeah, he's hit up and on.
They could discuss it in detail. Uh-huh. Uh huh.
The good reeds.
Wow.
He wants to play lifeguard, he wants to role play some lifeguard. Really.
I have not seen that happen before. That's exciting, isn't.
It.
Don't you fear? Forever and I'm always here.
Yeah, Kelly is a lifeguard. My goodness. It's just you. Know, I mean you would be running in slow motion in that big lead outfit, OK, hatches, matches and dispatches. It is the last segment of the show. The births, deaths and marriages segment where we do this. A celebrity who sadly passed away that said this.
I don't want to use anybody. It just. It's so hungry. This too bad.
If you said Matthew Mcgrory. Mel will play the recorder for you, no? Yes, that's it. No. Yeah. Stop doing what? Ohh, my God mate.
White played in this order.
You would take care.
What just happened?
Lots of things. Lots of things happened all at once. Matthew mcgrory. And you're like, who's that? Well, well, that was that line there was from the movie Big Fish.
Wow.
Where is Matthew Mcgrory?
Just too bad.
Did you ever think that maybe you're not too big? But maybe this town is just too small now. I've heard in real cities they've got buildings so tall you can't even see the tops of them.
Really.
I wouldn't lie to you and all you can eat buffets now you can eat a lot, can't you? So why are you wasting your time in a small town? You're a big man. You should be in a big city.
You're just trying to get me to leave, aren't you?
Yeah, that was the movie Big Fish, directed by Tim Burton with you and McGregor. Great film. He paid a giant. He was 7 foot.
He was at jives.
7 foot 6 inches tall, hmm.
Yeah, tallest actor. He was in the Guinness World.
Records book. Yeah. So he's in big fish. He was in House of 1000 corpses.
Wait, hang on. Guinness World Record book for being the tallest. He also held the record, so he's obviously in the Guinness World Records Book twice. Yeah, for the largest feet. He was size 29 and a.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Half that's a. Big Foot and he had the longest toe, not due to a medical.
Really.
Vision. Do you reckon me. That's very. That's very specific, isn't it? Longest toe not due to a medical condition.
He was hanging around. Yeah. Do you reckon he was nice? Do you reckon he was hanging around Manitoba a few weeks ago when that bloke was in the on the other side of the river? Might have been mistaken for a Bigfoot. Yes, he was. He was. So he was in obviously big fish. He was in House of. 1000 corpses as well.
I don't think he. Gave the longest toe enough breathing space.
Directed by Rob Zombie, well, I don't like letting toes breathe the longest toe. You probably can. They're probably is. I reckon there would be. Why don't you try and?
I'd like to. I'd really like to. See the longest tongue? I wonder if he's gonna fight over his toe somewhere.
Behind it, he was in the Devil's rejects. He really liked Rob Zombie movies. He was in a few of them. He was in Bubble Boy as well 2.
OK.
1001 men. In Black 2 and he was also in Malcolm in the middle. Charmed. Carnevale. He's been in music videos for Iron Maiden. He was in the music video of the Wicker Man. He was in. Ah, I don't think so. I think I might have.
Was he the Wicker man? Cause he's tall? Maybe. Yeah.
And Eddie cost him on him. Actually, Marilyn Manson's coma white. He was in Blondies good boys, and he was usually cast because of his size and his voice. He had that very deep voice. So he passed away, unfortunately, on. The 9th of August in 2005, at age 32 from congestive heart failure. Ohh. It was a big loss because his career was really on the rise, so he was definitely cut short in his prime and he was very sought after because of his size. Rob Zombie actually dedicated the the printing of the Devil's rejects DVD to him. Because he was a big fan of him, he worked with. Him quite often. Spoke very, spoke very fondly of him. He did. Have you found his toe?
Is that him or is that just someone else with their toes? Well, there's his toe.
That is him. Yeah, it's it's a big time.
You know, let me zoom in. All that is big. Ohh, he's got like nail problems. I guess that comes with big toes territory and the feet are big as well.
That is.
That is a huge toe massive toe. He's got very big feet.
That is a massive toe and it's not due to a medical condition. There you go.
No.
No, I'm glad I've seen those.
You know what they say about big toes.
What?
Big toenails rest in peace, Matthew Mcgrory and what have we got next?
Week. Anything think we got some wild weather do.
We wild weather, wild weather sounds great. Ohh, and you know what else? Madonna has a she falls off a horse.
Bit of a weather event. Ah yes, I remember that.
Madonna falls off a horse and it's got nothing to do with the photo shoot for next. Book. That's it. You come and find us on the socials, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, search for t -, 20 podcasts on YouTube as well. All of that stuff. We love you. Thank you so much for listening to us and downloading our little show each and every week at the time of recording this time, nothing else bad has happened, but I I don't know, I mean. I'm I'm concerned that perhaps, umm, something might happen to the girls of the Playboy Mansion, which would be terrible of course. I'm worried for Mark Cohen walking in Memphis. I fear for Tommy Lee.
Run and lifeguards maybe. Ned. Ohh no. Ned Kelly. We're right.
Yeah. Well, the fact that Ned Kelly's in there is a bad sign cause, you know, he's kind of associated with that. And then most of the other people in the show should be relatively safe this week. I hope. Thanks. See you next week.
OK, good.
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