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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Hurricane Katrina: Category 5 storm, category 10 fail
Rewind to 27 August – 3 September 2005 ⏪
🌪️ Katrina’s wrath
Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast with catastrophic force, flooding 80% of New Orleans when levees failed. What followed was a disaster of human error as much as nature’s fury — FEMA fumbled, the Superdome became a nightmare and trust in the system was non existent. But there were glimmers of humanity too: the Cajun Navy, hospital staff who refused to abandon patients and strangers who took families into their homes.
🏉 All Blacks untouchable
The Tri Nations wrapped with New Zealand strutting like it was their personal training session. Dan Carter booted, Joe Rokocoko dazzled and the Bledisloe Cup stayed firmly tucked under their arm. South Africa fought hard, Australia… well, let’s just say those Wallaby scrums were softer than a marshmallow in hot Milo.
🎶 Oasis sings about doing nothing
The Importance of Being Idle gave Noel Gallagher his turn on vocals and Britain its newest #1. A Kinks-flavoured anthem about slacking off and not giving a toss — proof that Oasis could still crank out bangers even when they couldn’t be bothered.
🌴 Enter: Rihanna
At just 17, Rihanna dropped her debut album Music of the Sun. It wasn’t world domination yet, but Pon de Replay turned every club into a sweaty Caribbean night. Jay-Z had literally locked her in a Def Jam office until she signed.
🔓 Prison Break kicks off
Michael Scofield got himself jailed, ripped his shirt off to reveal a full prison blueprint tattoo and made everyone rethink their life choices — like, why didn’t you get inked with an elaborate escape plan? Add in T-Bag’s creepy vibes, mob boss toe-snipping and toilets doubling as tunnels — it was instant appointment TV.
😂 We Can Be Heroes bows out
Chris Lilley’s Aussie mockumentary wrapped its season with Ja’mie raising money “for Sudan, but also me,” Pat Mullins rolling across the outback and the Dapto twins keeping it bogan. Hailed as genius at the time, it’s now the kind of show that makes you laugh, then wince, then say “yikes, that aged like milk.”
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
20/8/2005.
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Up this is bananas.
My question is who approved that?
Do you see where this is going? Not really.
Welcome to team owners 20, the podcast that time warps you straight back to the week of exactly 20 years ago, where we dusted off the news, music, TV, movies and just random chaos that happens in pop culture during that particular week. We give it a little Polish. We shine it up real nice. We turn it sideways. So we don't do that. That's what the rock does. We don't do that. We just ask big questions. We asked whether it was iconic, whether it was problematic or whether it was just playing weird with your host, Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel.
Hello. We are rewinding 28 August to three September 2005 this week.
Ladies and gentlemen. This is not a test. There is a major hurricane that is in the Gulf of Mexico.
This is a huge story. This is probably the biggest story of the year. Back in 2005, Hurricane Katrina is about to make landfall. This time 20 years ago. Brutal. A hideous response from the government from all recollection and. We'll, we'll talk a little bit more about that. We have to this week.
My name is Michael Schofield. My brother is facing the electric chair. Framed for crime, it did commit. After his appeals were exhausted, I knew there was only one. Way to get him out.
OK.
And that one way was to get in there and escape with him. The show prison break.
We were hooked on this one, weren't we? Big premiere 20 years ago. Tattoos as blueprints, homicidal cellmates. So many plot twists as well.
I really enjoyed it. Yeah. Yes, so much so that you had to ponder replay. Just to figure out what it was all about, that was actually hooking to the next door, cause Rihanna's got a debut. Album this week as well.
Yes, her big album debut.
Lots of things. All the cliffs by Hurricane Katrina and there. I guess I've got something that I need to confess before we get into the rest of the show, and I thought this was something that only happened to people. Well, I guess maybe I if I say it only happened to people who are not smart, then I am admitting to being an idiot, which I guess I was a little bit of and I feel very sheepish and foolish and a little bit ashamed.
Ohh.
But I thought I'd talk about it anyway, because I think it's a good conversation to have. I got scammed, I got scammed, I got. Thankfully, it was a it was a very low level scam, but I got done in a phishing scam. And a couple of weeks ago, I was well, I was. I was just checking emails and I was checking emails in a moment.
How did you get scammed? No. OK, that's a lie. What? You never check emails?
That's right. And then when I do, it's like ohh I've got heaps of emails to get through. So I was rushing through them and I got one that said it was from my phone carrier.
Hey.
Is support and they're like, we've changed our terms and conditions or updated our terms and conditions. Just log into your account to accept them and carry on and I.
Hmm.
Was. Like, OK, so I click.
But who even reads terms and conditions? That would be an instant delete terms and conditions on board you're gone.
Click the link to do. Now. Exactly. I just thought I wouldn't be able to use my account again, which is really dumb in hindsight. You know, I'll get. I'll get to that. So there's a link, I click the link, I don't check anything, and then I and I log into what looks like a an absolute mirror copy of the interface to log into my account there. And I do it and I give them the password and my.
Hmm hmm.
Hmm.
I mean and and then I think nothing of it and I clean out all the emails and then I get a notification. It's like your rewards points have been spent on this thing. These Amazon gift cards. And I'm like. Ohh, hang on. I didn't buy Amazon gift cards. They're not what's going. Ohh and I've I've realised and that that I've obviously done this thing and so I've wound back time. This was two hours after the fact so I've gone. Oh my God.
Hmm.
Hmm.
God. What have I done and then proceeded to go into this complete panic like I was in shock. Actually, I was quite shocked. My hands were shaking and stuff and like, I can't believe that this happened. I was really embarrassed. So I went in and I changed all the passwords and did everything. And then I contacted the carrier and they gave me my points back and stuff. They were really great about it, but I was very, very lucky. That I'd use two factor authentication for a lot of the other things that were connected to that. So the only thing that they could access when they got into.
Hmm.
That particular account was my rewards points, which they then spent straight away and hopefully touch wood. My God, they didn't get anything else, but I haven't noticed any anomaly since, but it was a it was a really scary thing and it was a really shameful thing.
Hmm.
And you went, you went, you went back and you looked at the email retrospectively as well.
Ohh OK yeah, that was what I was gonna say. I have. I have in moments of more heightened awareness. Umm looked at like when I was less stressed, less rushing around. Looked at that email and gone. Yeah, that's absolutely.
I think there was lots of exclamation marks. There was an emoji in.
There was an emoji in the title. This one had an emoji in the title, but other than that it was like it was worded in such a way. I think the thing that caught me was the ID. Like it. It didn't actually put an address in, so when I checked the contact information on the sender, it said.
Hmm.
The name of the IT looked like it was the name of the phone carrier support thing, and that's what tripped me up. So I'm like it must be them, but that looks pretty messy and I and I fell for it. Hook, line and absolute sinker and got fished and thought you know how how ridiculous that that happened to me. But it just goes to show that I think I don't know. I think that, you know, I'm very.
Hmm.
Name that. It happened to me, but it also. I also do think that it can probably happen to anyone if you're. You know, just in a moment of weakness, it just goes to show you've gotta have your.
There's getting more. Wits about you at all times. Well, you should answer to your emails more often rather than in a block trying to hurry through it and don't read the terms and conditions there. See perfect. Don't read the terms of vision, but I I think they are getting more sophisticated. Hmm. And now that you've got.
Or just never touched them ever again. Just never touch. Never touch him ever again.
Technology and AI they can do it quicker and they can be a lot more clever. They know that we're on to the typos and the bad spelling and the wrong fonts. So now they like. Ohh OK, we'll just use AI and we'll make it seem a lot more. Legit. So they are getting more sophisticated. I don't even answer my phone. I found a trick actually with your phone you can do a thing now in the settings where if it's not a number that's in your contacts list, you make it silent. So when the bogus callers call you, it just goes to voicemail. But then I got worried because I say my name in my voicemail.
What?
Oh, that's clever.
Like what if they take my voice?
Oh yeah.
Print. Not that I've used my voice to log into anything anywhere anyway. But you know I'm still worried. So then I had to go in and change my voicemail, take my name out of it, make it not. Sound like me?
Yeah, see. And and see I I would take the **** out of you for that normally. But after what happened to me, I don't have a leg to stand on at all. I've got nothing. Couldn't even it's not like a phone scam. I couldn't even keep a whistle by the phone.
Yes.
Play the hatches, matches and dispatches clue Q thing to them, which is that that that's what that was. That's what I just did. Then because we've got this segment at the end that we do this thing. And if you listen to the podcast regularly. Like Ohh explains it each and every week and maybe I just won't. Maybe I'll just say that it is a celebrity who was.
Oh. Would work Yep.
Born it well, it is a birth this time 20 years ago, celebrities said this.
Beth.
Must be crazy if that, then they're gonna be me. Honey Boo Boo child.
I. Don't know who that person is, but we'll find out together at the end. Of the show.
29th of August 2005, Hurricane Katrina makes landfall one of the deadliest and most destructive hurricanes in U.S. history struck the Gulf Coast in late August 2005, causing widespread devastation, particularly in New Orleans and along the coastlines of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alan. Ammo.
It was. It's one of those ones where like, it just seemed to go for so long, too. Not the actual, just the aftermath and everything like it reached so much devastation. It was catastrophic. And but it was. It was more catastrophic or made more catastrophic because of the human failings in the aftermath that. Turned it into. Like you, it's America. It's the the leader of the free world. And they had this humanitarian crisis, the likes of a third world right at their front door. It was terrible. So the, the hurricane itself reaches category 5 at peak. But I think when it hit landfall, it was category 3, but it was enough to cause a lot of. Destruction formed on the 23rd of August and dissipated on the 31st. So many people died. So many people died. Almost 2000 people died. Yeah. Billions of dollars worth of damage. Hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage, massive flooding, levy failures, displacement. Major humanitarian crisis. Like I said. So we have a depression that forms over the tropical depression.
Hmm.
Forms over the South eastern Bahamas on the 23rd of August.
Then we reached the 24th and it strengthens into Tropical Storm Katrina. The next day, it becomes a hurricane near the southern Florida coast. It crosses Southern Florida as a Category 1, causing a little bit of flooding and damage. August 26th, it enters the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico, which then intensifies things. It escalates to a category 3, then a category 4 soon reaching. Category 5 strength. Between the 27th and 28th of August, it fluctuates between a category 4:00 and 5:00. Over the gulf. Intensifying to a peak with sustained winds of 175 mph. And the size of it means that the surge threat extends hundreds of miles along the coast.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a test. There is a major hurricane that is in the Gulf of Mexico.
The winds are really picked up here significantly over the last half hour or so.
The worst of the storm has now reached New Orleans. This is the moment we've been talking about dreading.
And I'm wondering how long these levees are gonna hold on Lake Pontchartrain.
That's from Al Jazeera, who did a really good job of curating and and putting together a lot of the media coverage from the time by the 29th of August in 2005, Katrina makes landfall near Boris Triumph in Louisiana as a Cat 3 hurricane. With sustained winds near 125 mph. A big storm surge catastrophic 25 to 28 feet, hits the Mississippi Coast, causes severe flooding and destruction. New Orleans, as levees fail in multiple places, it floods about 80% of the city's major flooding affects New Orleans, parts of Mississippi and Alabama. Evacuations were incomplete. And many residents were trapped. And you remember the footage and you'd see the choppers going overhead and they'd be on the roofs of their houses like, because that they would they go into the crawl space and then the water would start to come in the crawl space and on the roofs of their houses. And they had like, SOS and all the messages spelled out on the roofs of their houses.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just terrible. Some people died in the roofs of their houses. It was it was terrible. So by August 30, floodwaters continue to rise in New Orleans and the rescue operations begin. But they're tampered by flooding and damage. George W Bush declares the thing a federal disaster, and FEMA mobilised with, with little effect.
I think quite a few people do. Yeah, yeah.
At the time.
This city absolutely devastated by. And told that the New Orleans police put out a call to all his officers saying if you have a boat, bring it here. Help us. These are people who do not have the wherewithal to get out of town. They didn't have cars. There's no way they could pay for a home. Room. They stayed in their houses because they had to, and then the water came up. This is life and death. This is life and. Death. There's just no doubt about it.
I understand the anxiety of people on the ground. I just can't imagine what it's like to be waving the signs that come and get me now. But I want people to know there's a lot of help coming.
31st of August Katrina weakens over the land but continues to cause flooding and tornadoes in the eastern US. And then into September, the floodwaters start to recede in New Orleans but remain widespread humanitarian aid and rescue efforts intensify. At this point, we start to see the full scale of the devastation and the loss of life.
You know, maybe help is on the way. The immediate situation is with each passing out the situation gets.
More dire, the government said. You go in that Super Dome and you'll get help, and they didn't get help. They got locked in.
There, there was no power, air conditioning, water. Thousands were stranded in wretched conditions.
I want to thank Senator Frisk and Senator Reed. For their extraordinary efforts.
To listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know I got to tell you, there are a lot.
Of people here who are very upset, I want everyone in the world to see six days after Katrina swept through this city five days after the levee collapse. Look, look in the face of the baby.
So many of these people, almost all of them that we see, are so poor and they are so black.
They're showing all these reports of people looting and and they are doing that when people are desperate.
Destruction of the spirit of the people of southern Louisiana and Mississippi may not being the most tragic loss of all. George Bush doesn't care about black people.
The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina will go down as one of the worst abandonments of Americans on American soil ever in U.S. history.
You need to know that our whole nation cares about you. And in the journey ahead, you're not alone.
Man, that's you. Look at that retrospectively. He that lost crap from George W Bush and it just doesn't sit very well. It didn't age very well. That quote. And that's such a great package that that came off Al Jazeera as it was really lucky. I found that because it just sort of. Captures the entire thing and sweet. You hear that grab from Kanye West in there as well? When he was on the telethon with Mike Myers and they were alive and he's just like George Bush doesn't care about black people.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And Mike Myers himself, he's like what's going on. It was just a complete and unmitigated disaster from the from the actual weather event to the follow up terrible over 1,000,000 people displaced along the Gulf Coast homes, infrastructure businesses. New Orleans was 80% of the city flooded. Like we said before, Gulfport, Biloxi, heaps of other coastal cities, levee failures meant that they had to really investigate what went wrong. Long, massive rebuilding efforts and you know there I think with that there's like it took forever to recover, took forever.
Hmm, there's remember the remember the trailers, the FEMA trailers that people were living in for so long. It highlighted a lot of failings and a lot of issues in emergency preparedness and disaster response.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think just the the slow response from FEMA and sort of enacting the the policy and the procedure that goes around that in terms of the failings, there were quite a few there the obviously the levee failure and the poor flood protection there. It wasn't built to withstand a storm of Katrina's. Fires it failed below its design thresholds 50 plus levies failed, which is why 80% of New Orleans flooded.
Yeah. Yeah, but water came into New Orleans from kind of all sides. It was, yeah. And they would. Yeah. It was just terrible. And then FEMA, like, you hear George Bush saying, hey, look, come and help you and all that sort of stuff. FEMA were really slow to get into New Orleans. And then there was the bureaucracy. I think there's the separation between federal and state and all of that sort of stuff.
For weeks.
Yes.
Lack of clear authority, so anything that's being sent in gets or or was supposed to get sent in, actually got held up because of that bureaucracy, because people didn't know where their jurisdiction. As were and then people are still stranded. While this is all happening the the head of FEMA became really infamous after Bush said to him, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. His name was Michael Brown, and it's just like people like what? You know, it was. It was a complete breakdown between. Between state, local and federal government, which just made a mess. And then then there was the whole thing and we saw a lot of this on the news over here in the Superdome, the Louisiana Superdome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it's like this last resort shelter that people.
And the convention centre as well.
Into it got overcrowded, it got dirty, it became really unsafe. There was not enough food. There was not enough water. The toilets were a mess, no security.
No.
Then some were there were people were.
Shocked there as well, weren't they? Yeah. Yeah. Ohh gosh.
People were shot, people were raped in there in the Super Dome. There was no power. And then the roof started coming off. It was just dreadful.
Just.
Dreadful and and I think people people died in there and the bodies. Were left unattended. And again, it was the the inequality as well, and looking at vulnerable populations. And you heard in one of those reports that. They didn't have anywhere to go, so they stayed in their homes. They weren't able to evacuate.
It's just like it's. It's apocalyptic and it it it like, pushed that part of America into the third world. They were like a third world country when all of this happened, it just it was terrible.
Yeah.
There were police blocking evacuees, elderly people dying in their homes, dying in wheelchairs. A public trust eroded really quickly and many accusing many officials of being more concerned about optics than as opposed to saving lives. Yeah, there were a lot of investigations, congressional investigations and major reform to US disaster management in the aftermath. There was an overhaul of 14. Billion dollars in terms of flood protection. And it really. Became a case study in what not to do and.
Yeah.
The the human side of of natural disasters.
But there was this whole thing too, and the media were the ones that were trying to really get the story out there at the time. While the government were pushing this other narrative and they were doing press conferences and talking points and saying everything is all great. But there were journalists that were on the ground that were like, this is not great at all. And this is where we get more the more immediacy with the reporting.
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Yes.
And the like the conduit. Between the media and and people is a lot stronger, so they can get their stories out there a lot quicker with all of the technology that's made available to them and and they're what I find interesting in the context of today is like the media is more of a villain, but they were heroes back then because they were actually telling the real story of what was going on. Yeah, and. You know, I mean, there was a lot of terrible, terrible footage that we saw. There was also some really incredible stories about human resilience and stuff as well and that.
Just people helping others, yeah.
Yeah. So like there remember that there was the Cajun Navy. So like anybody that had a flat bottom boat. They basically people with boats went out into the floodwaters to rescue people themselves. They took their boats out there and started rescuing people and that it was not safe like they're going through submerged streets where there's debris down, power lines. You know, they don't have any equipment, really, any safety gear, probably not life jackets, no comms, no radios or anything. And they're just pulling strangers and pets.
Hmm.
They're rooftops and.
Sleeping in their boats. Yeah. Yeah. And the hospital staff as well who stayed in the hospital with patient.
Stuff. Yeah, it for days on end for days on end. Yeah.
Because remember too, we're losing power. So you've got people that are on life saving equipment, like life support, they were ventilating patients by hand. They were carrying them down, stairwells in the heat and improvising care because the supplies obviously running low as well. Some didn't leave the hospital for over a week.
Yeah.
Yes. That's hideous. Yeah, it's a heartbreak with pets. Like, I mean, I say, these are all stories about human resilience, but I don't know, man. Like, it's just you do what you gotta do. Like the the animal welfare groups going through flood water, breaking into people's houses to save animals that were stranded or left behind. And some people refusing to leave with their pets meant that there was, like a pets. This actually led to something in 2006, they advocated for which was a pets evacuation and transport standards for emergencies, which was great, making it sort of mandatory that they include pets in the US in, in, in their disaster planning. And then, you know, neighbours cooking for each other and trying to just get by and like stories of resilience of whatever, really, it was more the fact that if they were just left to their own devices and.
Hmm.
You know, I think people naturally rise to the occasion during that in the absence of any support from the government whatsoever, but if anything, it's still a massive failing on the US government like it's a huge blot on the landscape for that.
And it went on for so long as well, I remember cause I was working in the media at the time. Simon, we must have gotten news reports daily just because of where we worked. And I just remember, for months, every morning coming into work and there'd be just updates and it would be the same thing, like more people have found dead in their homes. The devastation, the cost kept climbing. The death toll kept climbing.
Yeah.
You know, then people were so displaced for so long and the rebuilding took so long and.
Yeah.
It was just heartbreaking. I I just. I remember it just stretched out and just what they went through.
But you're just like, oh, this is a superpower. This is America. Like, surely not.
This is yeah, this shouldn't be happening. Yeah.
You know, isn't this everything they fight for, you know?
Yeah.
The welcome distraction of sport. Ah.
The Tri Nations, the series wrapped up on the 3rd of September 2005 and. All Blacks, yeah.
That was the last throw of the dice for. The Australian team. It's this cracking all black side has shown great character again tonight after the Wallabies challenge so magnificently they steadied. And they have come away. It's a 10 point margin. In the end, New Zealand wins the Tri Nations for 2005. The Australian players exhausted, but the All Blacks with the composure and the professional attitude have come away by 34 to 24 here at Eden Park.
Composure. They treated it like it was a casual jog. They smashed it well, they didn't smash them. I mean, might like 10 points. Is not much in the grand scheme of things, but like the whole series, they just dominated the whole series. They took out the Springboks twice.
Hmm.
By the same 31 to 27 scoreline, I mean again close games, but they just did it once in Cape Town and once in Dunedin for that one. Dan Carter's book, Joe Rococo's late heroics, breaking S Africans hearts, which was wonderful. We love seeing heartbroken Springboks. But then the Wallabies were like Oh well, we'll give them a run for their money. They were so soft in the scrums he could spread. Damn on them. They're terrible. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't mean anything. They didn't mean anything. So 3rd of September in Auckland, New Zealand, unbeaten. Very smug bladder, slow, tucked neatly under their arm, their cura and took off.
I don't think they won anything in August, no.
With it, yeah.
South Africa finished second in Australia, lasts.
Let's never speak of that again. They did. They just switch gears a bit with music. I feel like the first part of the show, like I've, you know, it was a bit of a downer. Like, I'm feeling a bit down. Hurricane Katrina, that's just a horrible story that brought me down. I was wallowing in my own self pity with the fishing scam. Let's turn a corner. Let's turn these frowns upside down.
Hmm.
And talk about popular music.
Hmm, that'll turn your frown upside down for.
Sure. Yes, it really will.
#1 here in Australia are Pussycat Dolls, don't you?
Don't you, baby, don't you? Saying don't you wish like.
Raul, Raul.
New number one over in the UK Oasis, the importance of being idle.
Oh. I you know, I I don't actually remember this song being popular over here. I guess This is why it's #1 not well.
Agree. It wasn't.
There you go. Portents are being idle, yes.
I like that they brought out the concept of bedrock before it became a thing. What bedrocks? Being idle second single from their album. Don't believe the truths.
Do you? It's it's pretty, it's quite bombastic. Ohh. Being idle. Sounded so old when you said bedrock. You'll get if you keep lying.
Hang around. You'll get that bloody bedrock. I love that. Listening to your Oasis.
Learned that from our son, like when he sat and he had to explain it to me, it's like. Oh, that's good. I wanna do that. That's. Like fun went straight to #1 on the UK Singles Chart, making it the band's 7th UK number one. This one is written and sung by Noel as opposed to Liam giving it that more laid back vibe.
Not. Yeah. He would have been jealous and upset, I think, though, you know the sibling rivalry in full effect here.
He he wouldn't have liked it. He wouldn't have liked Knowles. He getting the number #1. Hmm.
What you mean what you mean? You got a number one on the sink. I'm the singer of the songs. I get the number one singles and sings.
Larry, great.
It's Noel being cheekily self aware about being lazy, unmotivated, and not giving a toss inspired by his own reluctance to work between albums he was on didn't wanna do the.
Yeah, that's why we love them.
Yeah.
Interviews, wasn't he? Yeah. Well, who can blame him? He's not very pleasant.
I couldn't be bothered.
Person anyway, not much fun to interview. Yes, it's important. Apparently, according to the song title.
The idol musically. It was it was compared with the Kinks, actually. Ola Lola. Hmm.
And.
Hello. OK, sure.
And.
The big production that our Oasis were known for, one of the highlights of don't believe the truth. I went into a Reddit thread and everybody seemed to agree that that was the Best Song.
Yeah.
Off the. Album on Reddit. Yeah, yeah, couldn't find anything overly interesting about them in there.
Really, there you go. I wonder if they're playing. It is. If it's part of the set with the the the current tour.
I'd say it would be. I'd say it would be.
Yeah, well, it was the number one. So you'd wanna hope so, mate. Cause you know, it's there's nothing worse when when people get really upset, when they go to see an artist that's sort of back together. And they're like, they don't play, they don't play the heat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're only gonna play our new album, our new album that we've just brought out that you've never heard before.
Yeah, I did see that with the the last Iron Maiden tour in Australia. There was a couple of sort of casual fans who probably haven't listened to Iron Maiden for a while who expected him to play number of the Beast and they never played it. They're like what happened? We didn't hear number.
Outraged. Oh dear. I've disappointing.
Ohh that's what I did hear people ******** about. That when we were leaving, yeah.
Yeah, but they got a lot of deep cuts. You know, they, they, they got a big catalogue. And I mean, say to Oasis, they might, they might not play the importance of being idle. You wouldn't know if I went there. I'd be like oh, they didn't play the importance of being idle they be like. Yes they did. And I'd be like, oh, ****. Well, that sounds the same to me.
Let's go over to the US charts now.
I'm trying to show you.
The same and you keep on playing games like. Hot like me. Don't you wish your girlfriend was a freak like me? Like me? Who is gonna take your place?
He belongs.
Just quickly, before we recap the charts, I was just thinking about the Oasis song and not knowing whether or not they played it at the gig or whatever. And it reminded me of a story about a Motörhead concert, which is one of my favourite pieces of interaction and banter from the stage and and there's this dude in the crowd at the motor.
Hmm.
The gig in between the senses. You're like yelling out play bomber, play bomber, and then he's like, we already played Bomber and the guys like play it again. And let me looks down at the guy and he goes. Don't be a, which is probably something that Gallaghers would do anyway. Sorry, I I digress from the charts. Can you remember the order? Yeah. OK.
Ah, absolutely.
Yes, #1, we belong together. Ryan #2. Don't cha #3. Ohh pondy replat.
Yes. Clumsy replay. Ohh, that's a typo. Yes, it's just a little typo. It's your typical Ron Burgundy type voice over artist response. You just read it as it's written.
When you do your plat again you replat after it falls out Monday replace ring out numbers. #4A new entry. Shake it off. Mariah Carey, our number 5 bow. Wow, Omarion let. Hold you, but let's chat. New entries. Shake it off, Mariah.
Just saying.
She's not the like $0.50 not the only guy that can put a couple of songs. In the charts at once, although so Mario's got two in the charts, 50 had three at one stage, though, or one technically was Lloyd's not like that. So the game. The game, yeah.
The.
Anyway, shake it off before, way before the Tay Tay song.
Shake it off about. Shaking off a bad relationship produced by Jermaine Dupree or JD Brian Michael Cox.
Uh-huh.
Hmm.
I love those lush, layered vocals.
Very glossy 2000s R&B, wasn't it?
Beautiful, beautiful production.
Peaks at #2 famously blocked by her.
Hmm.
The reason didn't go to #1 cause we we belong together, obviously stayed at #1.
She blocked herself. It's a big song. We belong together.
Nominated for a Grammy for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance and Very Lux Beautiful Video Clip as you would imagine, leaving her unworthy man behind. Ohhh yeah, slow MO, glamour shots and an exit that screamed. I upgraded.
All.
Yeah.
But yes, Taylor Swift obviously brought out a single called Shake it off, and I was hoping I was hoping for some drama. I was hoping for a bit of snark from Mariah because.
Some beef, some beef. Tay, Tay and Mariah, I think I think Tay Tay's beneath Mariah. Mariah is very regal.
Gorgeous.
I just was hoping.
For ma, right? I was just hoping for Mariah to just make a smug Mariah comment about having that song title first. But no, no, neither of them actually addressed it. Ever. Mariah never gave her any shade about it.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's the fans are the ones that are the. Ones that talk about it.
Really.
Because.
People are like older Tay Tay fans are also Mariah fans, and the joke was about the two types of shake it off, one for sipping champagne and stilettos, and the other for dancing like nobody's watching.
Ohh OK. Different different shape. It's it's similar similar circumstances leading up to the shake it off but different outcome depending on your state of.
Different.
Mind, but there was.
Some potential shade thrown in a recent interview. This was a different artist from Mariah.
Something.
Ohh alright, so you say that like Mariah didn't throw any shade, but I think Mariah when she throws shade. Like she's just she's so she's so good and it's like you don't even know that shades been thrown at you.
She's very good at it. She's very good at it.
Yeah, it's like, hang on. What just happened there? Was that changed? Was that direct sunlight? I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah, it it. It's. She's like a gunslinger, right? And it's like you're you're. It's a high noon shootout between you and Mariah. Yeah. And you're at the gates of heaven before you even realise that you're dead. Or hell, wherever you're going, she's already taken you down, and you haven't even worked it out yet until well after the fact.
Yeah.
But you don't even know that she's there. Yes. So we came across this interview. I think it was on the BBC on a BBC podcast where. The guy interviewing her was talking about Katy Perry going into space and was interested in Mario's views.
Would you fancy going to space? You know, like Katy? Perry did. Did you go? To space, not for long, I think it. Was where did she go? Space. Where did she go? No one knows. Pardon.
Ohh into all of it and back.
She.
Katy Perry went into orbit and.
Back. She's, like, floating in the. Yeah, and this is true.
This is this. I've not made this up this.
Is true. Wow. Alright Katie.
She was proper in space.
I'm not mad at her. That's pretty amazing.
Yeah. I mean, she hasn't stopped talking about it since, but it happened. Would you do it?
I think I've done enough.
Yeah, OK, far.
I'm not mad at her.
I love it. I love it.
I think I've done enough. You absolutely have more. I've done more than enough, I think.
I think I've got enough. She is so good. She's just so just the delivery. The delivery. Like she's had she every every line is like delivered. Like she's had a.
That's done enough.
I don't need that.
About 3 or 4 shades before she stepped out of the limousine to go into the interview like she's just a little bit.
Did she? Where did she go?
Off kilter? Zero. I'm not mad at her. Zero given she is an absolute queen. I'm. I'm seeing Mariah this like 2005 Mariah, the rise of Mariah starting to become the new patron St of the podcast, but I don't think I think she's just a little too.
Mada.
Lover.
Ohh potentially.
Ethereal or regal for us, like we're a little bit beneath I I'm pretty certain we're beneath Mariah.
Yeah, yeah. I don't think she'd appreciate it.
And a little bit terrified of her as well. Just quietly.
We also had an album debut this week, 20 years ago. The very first album from Rihanna, Music of the Sun at 17 year old at this stage and didn't really have the dominance, the pop dominance that she's perfected later in her career. But a lot of R&B Swagger island sunshine, it's been described as.
Island so she, you know, she was on this. This album was on Def Jam, which is. That was like Rick Rubin's label.
Hmm.
Isn't it? Yes.
Jay Jay-Z was involved because she auditioned for Jay-Z.
What I see audition for him, that was six months prior, so she would have been well maybe 17 maybe sort of 1617 years old when she auditioned for Jay-Z. Wow, that's young. That's very young to be going out into the industry and doing stuff like. Really like.
Hmm.
You know, but that album that wasn't her. This isn't her breakthrough album. This isn't where Rihanna becomes famous. This is just like our introduction to Rihanna to re read.
Well, this pondy replay did really well, but I think I think it was, there was another single and I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't anything cause I thought SOS was on this one, but that's on the next one. The tainted loved one.
The song itself, yes. That's the next one that's like 2006.
Yeah. So that hasn't come out yet. This particular album peaks at #10 on the Albums chart, went gold sold over 2 million copies. So that's still pretty good.
Oh. OK. Yeah.
Critics lukewarm on it, saying it was charming but pretty lightweight, although they praised her distinctive tone, it was there was a lot of sort of dance hall, reggae, mainstream R&B.
It's it's quite poppy, really. Tropical pop.
Jay-Z was the executive producer, and it did. Fruit did lean heavily. Ohh, they're good, did lean heavily. I won 40 frosty fruits from Agro Agro's cartoon connection. Yeah, a box of 40. So. So there was 2 connected boxes of 20.
It's like a frosty.
Yeah.
Yeah. Did you really? Well, sorry. Let's just park Rihanna for a SEC. Yeah. What was the competition for the frosty fruits?
This is more interesting. I think I had to write it. Then I had to. I had to think I had to send just a letter with my just a self stamped, self dressed envelope. I think I had to do anything. Think it was a yeah. Like a a luck of the draw. And I won a.
Stand self addressed envelope. It's just a draw. So you want to draw. 40 frosty fruits. Now these are ice blocks. Yeah. So how did you get them?
Yeah, that's a.
How did they get your frosty fruits? How did you claim that prize?
Good point.
And they weren't in a frosty fruits box. They were in like a grey cardboard, like 2 big cardboard boxes that were joined together. So it must have been must have been the ones that they give and then.
Primo Primo frosty fruits.
You empty them. Into the freezer. Yeah, I don't know. Unauthorised unauthorised. Yes. I think they were bulk.
Review copies. Yeah, or just bulk ones, probably bulk ones like retail, retail versions. How did you get them? Did they get delivered in an ice cream truck to?
And I also.
Mouse.
I think.
To pick them up from somewhere memory.
From like some dodgy wholesaler like Campbells, Cash and carry, or something not dodgy. They're not dodgy. They're proper legit wholesalers. Or am I talking about?
Actually probably probably something like I actually cannot remember, but I can still visualise them in the freezer thinking how am I gonna eat 40 frosty fruits? But I did and I also got a frosty fruits towel and it was right. Fluoro. Yeah, I think I got a frosty fruits T shirt and maybe a bookie boot. Not sure about the book.
Hmm.
There was the tower there just in case of an emergency, in case they didn't make it in transit. You have to mop them up there. You'd need a beast tower to mop up poorly frosty fruit.
No, it's a beach towel. It's a beach towel. It's very Beachy. It's very, very Beachy. And it was fluoro. It's good. It was a good competition and aggro, I think. Aggro even said my name. Or maybe it just maybe it just came up on a graphic. But I was on Agro's cartoon connection as the winner of, well, one of the winners. Other people won, too. Yeah. And I don't think it was the major prize. I think the major prize was like a holiday.
With fruit frosty did it on the TV. That's pretty big. Yeah. Were you friends? Did your friends celebrate with you?
Doing.
Though no, no one really cared, no.
What? You had your name read out on Agro's cartoon connection? That's a big deal. That's.
One really cares.
I don't.
Know.
I do feel like I was in my late teens and probably a bit too old to be watching this cartoon connection so.
Ohh you're OK. So you basically you you deprived a small child of 40 frosty fruits. I was gonna say you would have been like, you know having having your name read out Viagra will put you to Mariah Carey status on the playground. But like, you probably shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the playground so that's terrible. Alright Rihanna. Sorry. Yes.
Yeah, surprise pig.
Felt delicious.
They were delicious. Delicious.
Back to Rihanna. Yeah, it was good. Not as good as a frosty fruit, but they did market her as the tropical antidote to the R&B heavy charts. And it's her most island album before she moved into that more dance pop, good girl Gone Bad vibe. And that's pretty much all I. Have to say about that.
You know, it'd be funny. It'd be funny if, like, if if she if she there was some kind of cross promo. With frosty fruits cause both of them could like you know if they want some hip hop cred, could say they're from the streets. I think Frosty Fritz was Paul's or Peters. I don't know. Streets Paul's Peters. One of the apostles. Let's do some entertainment. Mel, let's go to the box office.
Same as last week, 40 year old Virgin number one in the US and wedding crash is still #1 here in Australia it's TV.
Oh yeah. OK, let's go to. Then.
Big Premier in the US on the 29th of August prison break.
My name is Michael Schofield. My brother is facing the. Her chair frame for crime he didn't commit after his appeals were exhausted. I knew there was only. One way to get him out. Getting you out of here is impossible, but if you design the place it. Isn't you've seen the. Blueprints. Better than that. I've got them on there. Just add a little faith.
I remember this show so well. This is the show that came out on the cusp of like pre streaming is what I'm trying to say. Week pre streaming. Yeah, the weekly show so and there's lots of episodes. It's not ten episodes. It's like 20 or something to that effect. And every episode ends.
Weekly, yeah.
Ah, lots.
The cliffhanger is like what's gonna happen next week, so they're always rioting and twisting and turning every single episode to get to the thing. It's excruciating by the end.
So many the twists you didn't see coming.
Of this it.
It was a lot and I was we.
Was a good show, but but you had to go through a lot of crap to get to so. Of the pay off and I just.
It did feel like it dragged and it did. It kind of got a bit unbelievable, but it we had it on prime here in Australia when I worked at Prime and one of the perks of working there was when the new shows came out, we all got to go and sit in the boardroom and watch them and we got to watch this and we're.
Yes.
All singing going wow.
Ohh, this one's a good one. Good one.
Wow wow. Edge obvious Satan. Look at that Shiv. It was one of the defining TV thrillers, high stakes drama, conspiracy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Thriller plot twists and it was. Quite violent for something that was on during prime time as well.
It was good. It was good.
Centres, obviously, are Michael Scofield. Wentworth Miller. Wasn't he dreamy?
Ohh, the girls loved Wentworth Miller.
Oh, brilliant. Structural engineer who deliberately gets himself thrown in the clink to save his bro.
Yes, Fox River, Fox River State penitent. Do you remember? Hmm.
Lincoln, played by Dominic Purcell, also pretty good on the eye and he's in there because he's allegedly wrongly sentenced to death for murdering someone of of of the president's brother, not just anyone. The brother of the vice president.
Aussie guy. Aussie guy, yeah. It was the vice president's brother. Yes. Do you remember? Yeah. And he's like the only way I'm gonna be able to get him is to go to gaol. This is the other brother, the smart brother. He's like the Wentworth Miller. Yes. He's like, I'm gonna get myself put into gaol and hopefully get to go to the same one.
Yes. Yes. He holds up a bench.
Like what are the odds? I feel like and like, OK.
What are the odds?
I think that if you if one of your siblings was in gaol, you'd be put in a different gaol. Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to have the.
Retrospectively.
Same it's not and it's like. At school. Yeah. You can't be in the same class as a sibling. So they'd put you in a different gaol, surely?
Yeah. We'll say. Thank goodness they didn't let that stop them otherwise.
I know that would have been such a waste of tattoo.
There be no show.
Doing ordinance.
There'd be no show. That's right, because he got the blueprints of the prison tattooed on himself, didn't he?
Remember the episode? Because I think it was an episode or two in when he took the shirt off.
I was like what?
Tattoo and head to toe, yes.
And they had to. They had to put the tattoo on every cause. It's obviously not a real tattoo, so I remember them talking about how they'd have to because it was like.
A fake or they'd apply it like it's like transfers transfers, yeah.
Yeah, it's like a temporary tattoo, and how they'd have to line it up and line it up perfectly every episode for continuity. Wouldn't you hate to be the temporary tattoo application person?
Yeah. Yeah, there you get pain in the **** anytime you have to take your shirt off.
On the show, that would be the worst job ever.
Yeah, it's not much fun because you know, when you get those temporary tattoos sometimes, like, if you don't, if you don't let them get, yeah, if they don't get moist enough, then if you RIP them and they. Yeah.
There's a fold. Yeah, the edge falls off, or if the paper folds, then you get.
I can imagine removing them, you know, after everything and maybe they laugh. They probably lasted for a few days as well, but that's the other thing, cause it's like, stops your skin from breathing as well. So it's all a.
Hmm he so.
He really suffered for his art.
Anya wentworths.
Gross. Yeah, there. But there was the the tattoos as the blueprints, then the the cliffhangers. They do that, then remember the conspiracy theories, the, the company, the company, the government company.
Well, the company that's right. But they couldn't name it. It was called the company.
And then, of course, the ensemble cast all the characters around them in.
The prison tea bag creeped me out, the one that pulled his pocket out inside out.
Yes. Tea bag. Mr yeah. He was a little bit gross and he called. He called Michael Schofield pretty. Hello pretty. Never that.
He was horrible.
And the episode that really got me was when the guy got the secateurs out to cut off his toes.
Ohh, that's right. Yeah, better to watching.
Did he end up he? Didn't cut it off in the end, did he? Or did he? Umm, I can't remember that was a cliffhanger cause they were. They're holding it up.
Did he? Did he like, cut his toe off, are they? Gonna what's gonna happen to Michael's toe?
Yeah, that was pretty much the promo, the cliffhanger. I don't. I don't know if he cut it off. Can't remember now. I couldn't watch that bit.
And what's and then what was the one where Lincoln was going to get executed, remember?
Ohh they they had the needle.
Like put him on death. Prove.
Like you know, with the needle, with the the poison sort of coming. Out of it. Ready. To go and then there was a last minute phone call. Ohh thank God. Thank that.
Yeah. It's a release, yes. And then the.
Could have been a. Huge waste of time for Paul Wentworth.
The the the the remember the tunnel behind the toilet was the tunnel behind the toilet. And then and then it was like, oh, we're gonna take everyone and escape with us. And spoiler alert they escape. They get out of the prison.
Yes.
In the first show and then something happens. There's some weird plot device with Season 2, so remember I was like Ohh season 1. Yes, we get all the way end lots of episodes and then season 2. It's like you've gotta go and do it again and infiltrate. So we're gonna send you this prison. You have to escape from this prison. I think it was to get to know. So. And I'll as soon as it was like prison break and then season 2 of prison break. It's like we're gonna put you in another prison. You gotta break out of that.
Hmm.
Ohh, they went into another prison, didn't they?
Hmm.
Are. Already broke.
Prison. I'm like we've done this and I'm not gonna do it again. And I didn't.
Imagine imagine going to a tattooist as well and going. It's like, what do you what are you? What are you after? After a koi fish kanji.
Yeah.
Nice some blueprints mates.
Yeah, well, it was the cryptic blue. So you didn't know they were blueprints? Never.
Nose like, hide that in some flames.
Yeah. And you know.
Maybe maybe put a bit of tribal around it. No one will know. That it's blue.
Well, this is where it's it's there's no creativity there. You've got to basically be. This is exactly what I want you to do. And then the tattoo artist isn't.
Yeah, don't screw up the line work. It's a lot of pressure.
It. They're not interested, you know. You wanna give them, like, a little bit of creativity in there to get some vocational satisfaction, but no.
Hmm.
Hoping to do a dragon today. It's a shame.
Yeah, and now I've gotta do this. We had a another show end, an Australian show, a classic show and you know.
Here in Australia, yes.
Although I don't know if it's still deemed classic today through the the 2025.
Hi and look.
Lens. I'm not sure how we feel.
History history has not been very kind to Chris Lilly. He's been a bit of a man out of time with his comedy, but I enjoyed this show. I liked this show we're talking about. We can be heroes, which was the finding, the Australia of the. This is the thing that started it all for Chris Lee that wrapped up in 2005. We had the final episode on the 31st of August.
No.
I think it was only one season. Anyway, wasn't it? Was it 2? It was.
Hmm.
1 So we didn't talk about the debut, but we'll certainly talk about it ending because that's how we roll. That's how we roll. Remember that character in the show, she rolled that, yes, anyway.
Because we forgot.
Ohh.
I didn't wanna be average. Didn't wanna be like everyone else. I wanted to be special.
We followed the day-to-day lives of five extraordinary Australians.
Two taps means I'm very thirsty. You ***.
Nominees who could be the next Australian of the.
Year for this crap.
Open aloft at the suggestion. When I, when I nominated myself. Get the information. I I wanted to be special terrorists have triggered a tree to land on his back. George George. Who am I? Mum, I.
Am a hero.
He's not gonna die. Don't be ridiculous. It's a quote. Yeah, I used to get up at 4:30. Zero. They call me dog.
Then pause it. Do it.
Down the station with big.
Penis. My full name is Jamie Louise King. I'm nominated because I sponsor 85 starving children.
We could go on and on lots of characters, all played by Chris Lilly. It was really clever and it's the first time we'd had sort of one of those office style mockumentary shows.
Hmm. Hmm.
And and I just. It the the thing that got it over was the fact that he was so committed to each character like he really just went in on the characters.
Yes.
He did, and we we loved it at the time it won the Logie for Best Comedy, AFI for Best Comedy series. Reviewers praised the characters and the detail of the characters, so Jermaine, obviously the private school. Girl and Phil was the the cop, wasn't he?
Yeah, he was the one that he nominated himself. Yeah.
Yes. Ohh, Daniel and Nathan, the Bogans from Dapto and Nathan was deaf after a fireworks accident. Remember him beatboxing.
Yes. Yeah, that was very funny. And and it was just, I think those, especially him playing those two kids. It was just. Like all the characters that he played were just spot on. Versions of those stereotypes. Pat Mullen, you didn't even need to write comedy into it. Like to a degree. It was like it just it was the cause. Those characters were naturally kind of funny, and that was so close to real life. Like is is what I'm getting at.
Like Mullins, that's the one. Who rolls?
Hmm.
Ricky Wong is probably the one through the current lens that is a little bit more.
Ah, yes, of course. Yes, I forgot about that.
The thematics the physics student.
One yes. And then of course, well, this is what starts to get him into trouble. And again, this is really hard with comedy, I think because characters are based on type. And so when you do a character of a certain race, you lean into a bit of a type and then all of a sudden it's like racist. And and I get that and it's and it. Look, if it makes somebody. Who is of a particular race, feel offended or uncomfortable? Then it's absolutely not cool, but it's really. It's a really difficult thing to even discuss.
And I think, but I think early 2000s. We we've still leaned into this concept of character comedy, and we spoke about Guido Hatzis a couple of years earlier, who won the best comedy album for the prank calls that he did in character. And it still, it still wasn't something that was problematic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
At that point, I think then.
Hmm.
When we sort of. Got to later in the the 20 tens, yeah. Looking back on it, it was a white guy playing an Asian Australian physics student.
Right. Yeah. And he was doing that accent and he had all the mannerisms and it's like, and it's for me. I was like, because it's the same. When he did Jonah from Tonga. And well, it's even worse probably cause he's in black face for that pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yes. And I think that's I think that is why Ricky Wong. Was sort of viewed as problematic because he went on to do summer heights high angry boys and then Jonah from Tonga, and it was the Jonah one that caused the outrage because this is many.
Which was a character that spin-off character from Angry Boys.
And this is many years later when it's.
After yeah.
You know, we're starting to go, actually, no, this is not OK. And he got a lot of backlash for that. But retrospectively again cause it's still aired, but then retrospectively got a lot of.
Yeah.
Backlash. So then they. Looked at all of the characters they did, they went, went back to to Ricky and they're like, you know what? Nah, that's not OK.
And it's like, and it's like at first I was like, OK, so it's the. The intent, like the intent behind it, is not to foster hatred I guess is is where I I start. I started to look at it and I was like well, give the guy a break. Like he's not intending to do this in a malicious way, but it's how you come to, I guess, imitate and learn how to.
Hmm.
Portray these characters and then it's like. It is problematic. It is problematic because it it it could. It could be deemed as hurtful, and I I look back to being in school in the 80s and this is where I think a lot of this stuff and This is why this Chris really show was so relatable for us because he's an 80s kid who's acting out stuff that we used to see and hear on the playground all the time. And with our parents and stuff. It was very rooted in that. That kind of humour and it's like, you know, if there if there was in our schools, a Chinese kid that spoke differently, that was something that was very foreign to us in the 80s. So kids would take the **** like, and they would do all of the, they'd do the voice and they. Make the gestures with the eyes and they do all of that sort of stuff. And I guess if it does hurt someone or or cause distress, then it's it's not OK.
And I think too, with angry boys. They filmed it in. In a particular area and people that were in it.
It.
Didn't realise the angle and the tone that he was actually going to take, and I think I think there was discussion about him modelling the character on someone that he'd met, which was particularly hurtful as well. Yeah. Yeah, it is a tricky 1.
Right. Well, all of these characters would be people that these men, you know, so they put that disclaimer that they're fictitious and it's purely go into whatever. It's a shame, I mean. Or is it? Or is it a shame in that we should be ashamed that we, because I'm not ashamed that I like the show? I thought it was enjoyable at the time. There's there's definitely some characters, but there's a lot of things that happen in your past.
Hmm.
That. You gotta rethink, you know, and just go, oh, geez, looking at it the way I see it now.
Hmm.
Yeah, of course I do things differently. I don't know. Didn't he get signed to HBO, too? Like about, I don't know, five years ago or something around 20.
What?
20 I'm not sure, but I do remember that a lot of his shows got pulled from streaming services.
Yeah.
In 2020, Netflix and the ABC started removing the shows from their platforms, including we can be heroes.
Yeah. And I think he's a bit of a recluse now, really, isn't he? I mean, there's it's I, I I think he'd probably like to come back, but it's.
Which is kind of.
It's kind of tricky for him too, so obviously when it comes out he's winning all these awards and his peers are telling him how wonderful it is and everybody's loving it. So yeah. And so he's probably encouraged exactly. He's probably encouraged to do more and you've always gotta sort of take things further.
Yeah, well, he's being pushed. He's being encouraged do more.
So yeah, it'd be tricky for him to.
Alright ohh I was nearly gonna say we breezed through this episode, but then I remember that we talked about Hurricane Katrina at the start, so I won't do that. I'll.
Appropriate.
Just do this. The hatches matches and dispatches segment and we have. I can't believe it. We've got someone who was born, who was born this time 20 years ago that said this.
Must be crazy if they think they're gonna be me. Honey Boo Boo.
If you said Elena Francis Honey Boo Boo Thompson. You're doing better than me because I.
She said it, she said.
Honey Boo Boo in the clue. Hmm.
She did, she said her name in there. Well, it was reality show person.
Liz and Tiaras is where we first met her. That was the TLC beauty pageant reality show following the personal lives of families and contestants in a child beauty pageant.
All right. OK.
Generated a lot of controversy for the way that the children were dressed provocatively spray tans.
Ohh I think I do remember the. 1.
She was the one whose mother was criticised for giving.
Yeah. Get the caffeine. If you give a.
Her Gogo juice.
Caffeine. That's right.
A blend of Mountain Dew and Red Bull. To be precise, before pageants mix them together and she and that was the makeup and the spray tan and the nails and the lashes and the skimpy outfits and.
Caffeine in both of those deeds. Yeah, she's a child. She's a toddler. There's something on the label. Well, it worked. She got famous, apparently.
Well, she then had a spin-off show called. Here comes Honey Boo Boo's pilot episode attracted 2.2 million viewers in 2012.
See.
Wow. Wow. Just write your toddler like, run their mouth.
And I think the mum was at typical stage mum but also. They're a bit of a bit of a redneck bit of a boat.
Ohh this is the that's the the exploitation genre.
Speed. Trashy.
Mama, is it Mama June? I think, yeah. Mama June. The show here comes Honey Boo Boo featured all the sisters, half sisters and.
Cousins, I don't even know. I think there's a bit of a.
The father called Mike, known as Sugar Bear.
Yeah. So I mean like exploitation.
And other extended family members in they. Were from Georgia, yeah.
Ah.
And so this is like they don't, they don't have a lot of money. So they go and. Put their kids in pageants and try and win money.
And so though and and then it's like we'll give you your own. Show sure we'll do it.
Yeah, absolutely. We'll do it for like.
10 bucks they did holiday specials for Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, and a new 12 week season the following year. It actually got cancelled. It's it. It's a pretty sad story and a.
Oh.
Bit.
It got cancelled months before 1/5 season after there was a report. From TMZ, that June was dating her former boyfriend. Who'd spent time in prison due to sex crimes?
Ohh he's a ohh he's a sex pest. Yes, that's not good.
Yeah, yeah. So it got cancelled. But then years later, they got another TV show, Wii TV with Mama June in 2017. From not to hot, which chronicled her weight loss following surgery.
Hmm. Right. That's Mama June, not Mama June. Not Honey Boo Boo. Yeah.
And then it. Was. Mama June not Honey Boo Boo. So this is her mum. And then there was another one called road to redemption after her drug addiction again. Still, Mama June, arrest, rehab, sobriety. I think she was on meth or crack or something.
Right.
Oh God. Really. Well, it's it. It'll break you down the the the toddler being virgins. Ohh, I've got something where she tells us about how she got the name Honey Boo Boo. But I think you know just.
Hmm. So it was. Yeah. What a. Ohh, good, that's nice. Let's let's.
Coming. Yeah, honey Booboo literally come from. I was sitting in interview one day and I was like, I don't make me holler. Honey Boo Boo.
End on a hind.
Called. I don't know why I said it. I literally just off the top of my.
Head must be crazy.
And the Honey Boo stock. And she's been there forever.
Yeah, yeah, she's been there forever. They just just kind of hanging on to the.
Hmm.
Whole. Reality.
Well, I think she went on dancing with the stars. She was on the masked singer with one of the sisters or half sisters. They are in one. One of the masked singer things. Together they're a double act.
Titchy. Yeah.
Hmm, so yeah, look happy to sign up for any future reality shows I.
Think your big birthday party? I reckon for Honey Boo Boo.
Big celebration.
Yep, coast to coast golden rose. Be disc.
Perfect.
Ice cream cake.
Maybe some frosty fruits?
Some. Well, yeah, you could enter a competition and see if you could get 40 of them. Deprive some young child of their frosty fruits like Mel did when she was 16.
Win. Yeah.
Years old. It's alright. Legally entered. It's fine. It's a legitimate stamp. It's fine.
Writing letters to Agro's cartoon Connection and Peter, Andre and whoever else. Ohh, that's it. We're done. That's the end of the show for this one. Hurricane Katrina's probably gonna live with us for a few more weeks. I'd say there'll be some stories popping up in the news and whatnot. There. But you know, there'll be other stuff as well. We can turn it around. There's always the charts to laugh at. Or perhaps a book we didn't read. Or maybe we'll even open. We might open up the boom box, send us your booms. Search for t -. 20 Podcast on the socials. Facebook, Instagram. Tick tock. That's where you'll find us and YouTube these days. And we'll see you. We we appreciate you, though.
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