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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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From pop princess to pop mama: Britney Spears gives birth
Rewind to 11–18 September 2005
⚡ Lights out in LA
Millions of Angelenos suddenly found themselves trapped in elevators, stuck at dead traffic lights, and clutching their Nokia flip phones as a worker’s “oopsie” cut the wrong line. Terrorism fears? Nah — just Culver City’s clumsiest electrician turning LA into the world’s largest candlelit dinner for two hours.
🎢 Disney goes dim sum
Hong Kong Disneyland opened its gates — four lands, one castle, and a Space Mountain that had locals queuing like it was the Canton Fair. Feng Shui design, lion dancers, and Mickey doing East-meets-West vibes… it was Disney magic with a side of rice noodles.
☎️ Skype me maybe (before Zoom ate your lunch)
eBay spent a jaw-dropping \$4.1 billion buying Skype so auction bidders could awkwardly *call strangers about Beanie Babies*. Shockingly, no one wanted that. By 2007 eBay admitted it had flopped harder than a dial-up tone. Microsoft later scooped Skype — and officially pulled the plug in 2025.
🎤 Gold Digger strikes gold
Kanye West’s cheeky collab with Jamie Foxx shot to #1, holding the top spot for 10 weeks. Built on a Ray Charles sample, it was the perfect storm of hook, swagger, and headlines — dropping just days after Kanye’s infamous Katrina telethon mic drop. He wasn’t just topping charts, he was rewriting celebrity controversy.
👶 Britney pops a pop prince
On September 14, Britney Spears became a mum to Sean Preston Federline — cue paparazzi madness. The tabloids went feral, turning every nappy change into breaking news. Looking back, the way the media treated her feels less “Oops!... I Did It Again” and more “Oops!... We Were Terrible Humans.”
😈 Exorcism wins the weekend
The Exorcism of Emily Rose had audiences squirming between jump scares and courtroom cross-exams. Half horror, half legal drama, all nightmare fuel. Jennifer Carpenter’s contortions alone had viewers reconsidering yoga classes.
📚 Point Blank disappointment
On the book charts, Catherine Coulter’s *Point Blank* tried to thrill with FBI agents, Confederate gold, and explosions. Readers mostly thought it was… meh. Turns out the real crime was charging hardcover prices for fanfic-level hugs and kisses.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
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This is bananas. Do you see where this is?
My question is who approved that?
Not really.
Do you remember when your phone flipped shut with a really solid clack or you burned mix CD's like your life depended on it? And your biggest worry was whether or not Limewire was gonna nuke the family computer or everything would be OK? This is 2 -, 20 OK, the. Podcast that grabs the frosted tipped low rise jeans Myspace here are pop culture 20 years ago and it slams it right back into your ear. Is that's a bit aggressive, actually, I don't know if it like, if it's the first time, welcome. We're your hosts, Joe and Mel. I'm Joe. There's Mel. Hello, Mel.
It's very aggressive. Your aggressive hosts. Hello we are rewinded to this time 20 years ago, which is the week of the 11th to the 17th of September 2005.
Hey.
Something along the line of. Half of the city's 4 million power customers, so about 2 million people were affected.
2 million people without power in the city of Los Angeles this time 20 years ago. It was a town planning debacle. Ohh, I'm getting a Skype call. I thought that was obsolete.
Yes. Oh, gosh. Give me that nervous twitch all over again.
Little bit T -, 20 T -, 20 when nothing is obsolete, Skype. Big acquisition of Skype 20 years ago before. I mean, it was all Skype 20 years ago. Not so much now. Now it's all teams. We'll get into that a little bit later.
Better put some clothes on someones. Calling on the video message.
On will you please hurry up? It's 100°. Out here, you're a worse parent than Britney.
Is.
Ohh is that even possible? I'm not sure, but big baby news for Britney Spears this time 20 years ago.
Whoa, hot. Gave birth to. Her baby boy, her first child? This. Week that's not 5, no.
We'll unpack that. Yes, we'll pull that butter out of the oven and see what it yields. I. I don't know where I'm going with those sort of comments, but I don't know where I'm going with comments in general these days. Comments are a thing that really kind of annoy me and I'm talking about social media. I'm done. I it's like I'm done with social media, but I can't step away from it and it's not even FOMO. That's making me step away from it. It's the fact that I've kind of got this.
Hmm.
I guess curated old diary that I'm never gonna read. But it's there's the contact with the people, you know. And the one thing that I have to say about you that I really. Admire. I mean, there's lots of things I admire, but I and that I'm a little bit jealous of is the fact that you never came to the pressure and started a.
Yes.
Facebook.
No, I've never had a Facebook.
You've never had one.
I've never had a fight, but I've got an. Instagram.
I've got.
I've got several. Instagrams and I I do understand probably not so much the commenting side of it but I get sucked into. I get sucked into things and I saw this memorial post for someone I don't know who they were. It just got served up to me. It was a memorial post and I was like, I wonder what happened and and then I wanted to see their lives. So I went back through.
Yes.
All their history and learned all this stuff and I still have no idea who they are. But I was very sad. Yeah, but now, as a consequence, my whole feed is death content. It's it's just it's people. Yeah. It's like, yeah, she's and she's really nosey. She wants to go back through these people's back stories. And I that's what I spend my time on Instagram doing now.
Hmm.
Ohh really just based the algorithms like oh she likes death, yeah.
Yeah.
So I think I need to get off that one.
I mean. Don't get me wrong that whole the whole science behind that, it's fascinating, very interesting and and whatnot, but I just think about it used to be just that. I I I don't really have the time right, but I'd waste so much time on that platform.
Ohh, when you got on the community notice boards. Ohh my God.
Yeah, there's so much time wasted.
You're what? You're up. What, like. All night, one night, having a fight with someone.
Bickering, trolling, worrying, realising that maybe like my intentions in written form don't come across as well as what they do. If you've met me.
Or if you've had a few drinks, you're more likely to continue the argument, and then you wake up the next.
Yeah. So much of a waste of time. And they're reminding you all the time your memories on this day. Hey, you wasted a bunch of time and now you're wasting time looking at yourself, wasting time. But now it's also. Not only is it just that waste of time, that's almost an innocent waste of time, all that bickering and stuff amongst the community. That's social media being.
Day and go. Yes.
Social I guess in a negative way, but it's still being social now it's like. 25 sponsored posts some kind of AI driven piece of fake news, some news outlet that's basically not even a real news outlet. It's just been set up by some individual for God knows what reason. I don't know. Clickbait headline after clickbait headline and then maybe 5 minutes or 10 minutes.
MHM.
Into that experience, I might see that one of my friends has posted something.
That's so true, yeah.
And so and and so now it's not only a waste of time, but it's a massive waste of energy because you to to get to what you want. But then also if you're being pushed stuff to try and figure out if what you're being pushed is real or fake.
Yeah. To get you you want.
Like there's just no way of knowing, so I don't have the time or the energy and recently, you know, this sounds, I mean, I know how much of A wowser I sound when I talk about that, but let's think about how much time is wasted just holding this device mere inches from your face, which I think is affecting my eyesight as I get older as well. Just I'm starting to struggle with reading over distance. I'm about to book an appointment at Specsavers and I think I blame it on that shallow depth of field from peering into the palm of your hand and looking at this phone, right? Like the destruction. Yeah, the distraction or the destruction rectangle is probably a better.
From the distraction rectangle.
Them and I I feel like I I I still need to discipline myself. I have it now mainly because we promote the podcast through the channels and I like interacting with people like I get so genuinely excited if somebody contacts us via the podcast or or comments on one of our posts over there, I love that. It's wonderful.
Hmm.
It's like, Oh my God. Like some interaction? It's because you don't get a it's another 360 thing. Like we just put this thing out there and hope for the best. So that's kind of a wonderful thing to augment that and help promote it. Too, but on a personal level, the the the other reason that keeps me there on a personal level is that I don't wanna lose contact with friends, you know that I'm probably don't have enough time to hang out with or contact anyway.
You're too busy commenting on ****.
And it's like, I feel like, yeah, exactly. Because I'm too busy bickering with people or trolling or doing whatever, which I've stopped doing. So I'm trying to pursue more artistic things. I've regressed, and maybe it's a midlife crisis or whatever. And I used to play the guitar when I was a kid, and I played it really badly. And I still play it really badly now. But I bought that, and I sit there and I'd rather go and spend. 30 minutes playing the guitar. The doom scrolling because at least I'm doing something that hopefully is helping my fine motor and my cognitive function back into older age rather than corroding my brain and my morals and all this other stuff that I just this I I don't have. The time or the energy anymore?
Wow.
You're breaking up with the Facebook?
I I want to. I'm still there, but I'm not really there, if you know what I mean.
I think that's the case for a lot of people though, particularly around this AI generated content, because you can't, even though you're supposed to tag it in that way, nobody does and you just.
So that's that's been the kicker for me.
You spend so much time going is this is this real or not? It's so draining.
Yeah. And in the last probably 2:00 to 3:00. Months that AI generated content has become infinitely more prolific. Yeah, and worse. Yeah, like especially around, like celebrity deaths and stuff. The AI generated stuff that the that they're using to eulogise famous people is revolting. It's so revolting. And just any.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I just like. People using AI for attention it's it's it's, it's why we can't have nice things. And it's funny because I think when even when I first went on to social media, I was thinking to myself, this is not gonna end well. Well, and I feel like it's not ending well.
Hmm.
Hmm, I do feel like people are going elsewhere though, like I've I've started instead of posting things on on Instagram and and hoping that some Rando might comment back, or like I'm actually in like a workout for him and it's people that are doing the same sort of workouts as me.
Yes. They're supporting each other.
And we have conversations about workout. It's like a.
Right.
Niche. Group and I feel like that's where people are now going because you know that they're real people. They have the same interests as you. You're not being served.
Yes. Yeah.
Ads. And it's not, it's not 5 second video that distracts you. It's words you're writing words and you're commenting, and you might be able to upload A1 picture and that's it. It's kind of like going back to your old Nokia. It's taking it back a.
Well, it's I, yeah. Yeah.
Few steps.
So so maybe we're just trying to find our tribe, but we're we're trying to find our tribe a little bit online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's good. Cause that's niche. Like, you're coming together for a niche. You're not trying to do this broad stroke thing or or or play. I don't know. I think we've gotten better with our rules of engagement. But I also think that the.
Maybe. That's real that are real people online.
The platforms have. Ranged to a point where that it's like I don't know what it is now. It just feels like garbage. It just feels like a big garbage dump that's right in front of your face. And all you have to do is kind of look away and look outside. Like, yeah, I I don't know. I think it's.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Touch grass, I think, is what it is. OK. Hmm.
Toss grass. Yes, well done. See, This is why I have hope for the youth of today. Because they know they've been telling people to touch grass for ages. And they're like, ohh, they're comments and they're like, go touch grass. Boomer.
So that's what you're looking for.
It has.
Touch grass. Hmm. It's such a great term. It makes perfect sense. Get outside. Take your shoes off. Walk on the ground or not doing bindy season though. Now to spring with your bindings and stuff. Like that's no good. Hatches. Matches and dispatches clue time, by the way, segment that we do at the end of the show. Do this little clue to hook you through till then.
It's tight.
9th all winter.
It's usually a birth, death or a marriage, and this is actually a marriage, a match. The match portion of the segment celebrity that got married, who said this?
Wedding.
And this is ******** about women. Fine. But when they're pregnant that they're at it all the time, that's absolute crap because I had sciatica and I couldn't bloody move half the times like an old woman getting in and out of bed, letting her doing that towards the end. So he's deprived a bit of that. So he just got a bit of a sucking hold of the ******** as you do.
Yeah. So we'll find out who that was at the. End of the show.
12th of September 2005 we have a big power outage in LA at around 12:30 PM on Monday the 12th of September. It hit large parts of Los Angeles, roughly 2 million people were affected across downtown Hollywood, West side and parts of the San Fernando Valley blacked out traffic lights, office towers, TV, radio stations. People were even stuck in lifts.
That's right. Let's go to Robert Siegel from all Things considered on NPR News.
Joining me from in front of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power is reporter Rachel Myro of member station KPCC. Rachel, a mistake by utility workers. What happened?
Well, the general manager of LA's Department of Water Power won't say who cut what wire and why, but he did admit this was a case of human error. And once the mistake was made, the power systems controls automatically shut off supply to protect the system from getting fried just the way a circuit breaker might work in your house.
It sounds like a pretty big area. Los Angeles was without power for. A while it.
Was indeed, you know, he was saying something along the line of half of the city's 4 million power customers. So about 2 million people were affected.
He's very calm that announcer and I just when they describe it like that, where they describe it like he's cut the wrong cable and it's triggered a circuit breaker. Now I've triggered circuit Breakers in the house before, which is probably saved my life. But when you're talking about a cable.
Hmm.
You.
Have many times, yes.
That power was up to two, maybe even 4 million. Teams. That's a very big circuit breaker. Yes, yes.
Hmm.
It's a big cable too, yeah. At first, people were worried that it was terrorism actually, which is makes sense. This is, you know, the 4th anniversary of September 11, couple of days later. And it was, yeah, they cut the wrong cable, triggered a cascade that knocked out multiple transmission.
Yes. Yeah.
Lines which fed the city city was gridlocked.
Hmm.
Well, LA is generally gridlocked anyway, but you can imagine how bad it is when the traffic lights go down.
It's kind of like the New York one that was a few years earlier. Businesses were shut down, malls. This is universal. Studios had to evacuate. Imagine being stuck on a ride. Ohh, you would have loved it. Imagine being stuck on the Shrek ride. Not the Shrek ride. There's The Simpsons ride.
Ah. The The Simpsons, right? Yes, but the power would have been out, so I wouldn't be able to see anything, cause it's just a room in the dark. It's like a screen hologram. Virtual reality thing would be terrible.
Yeah, actually I wouldn't have been so.
Good.
TV's went dark radio.
It'd be weird watching, like jaws like freeze as he's coming out of the water.
Testing service. Couple of hours was mostly restored, so that's alright, but the scare was enough to dominate headlines as as you would expect, officials quickly assured everyone that it wasn't terrorism, but it did raise questions about the fragile grid, especially with rising power demand.
Hmm. Yeah.
I I actually.
Think I actually think that the the power grid in LA in 2005 is probably significantly better than what it is in 2025. Because they've had lots of problems over there, they're it's hideously unreliable. They have those rolling blackouts, they have to load, share power, extreme heat, wildfires. They have to do all the safety shutoffs. It's an absolute mess. So it it almost feels like nothing these days, just a little power outage. 2 million homes, couple of hours. I mean, it happens.
That's all right. Yeah, yeah.
You know, it just wasn't scheduled maintenance. You know, I hate that, too. I hate it when the power goes out. It really annoys me because we pay a lot of.
Hmm.
Money for power these days and they they send you a letter, but they they give you. But it's a big window. It's usually about an 8 hour window. Just to be safe and you just go.
Umm. Scheduled maintenance or whatever. It's a very big window. Yeah, yeah.
Well, surely it's not gonna be the whole 8 hours, but do I do I gamble it? Do I work from home today or not? I. Don't know. What do I do? Do I turn all the computers off? Do I turn?
And and and like a blackout? Well, yes, yes. Obviously there's the working from home thing. It's like, sorry. Gonna have to go to the office. You know what an inconvenience? But it's the it's the like. It's the weather. So if it's in the summer and it's a storm and there's a blackout or whatever, you can usually.
The House computer off.
Cope with that, but it's in the winter time because they've especially now because they've encouraged so many people in this country to switch from natural gas to electricity, and you still need electricity to run your natural gas heating anyway. So that doesn't matter. They cancel each other out unless you're just sitting in the middle of the bloody or gathered around the stove, you know, to try and keep. Warm. But like where we live, it gets freaking freezing. So a blackout or a power cut in the middle of. Night. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. It's very.
Cold, and I think too these days because you become so reliable, like back in the day as a kid, it was great. You'd light a candle. Girl. Isn't this fun? Isn't this fun? Everybody get a torch. You'd turn on your, your, your Game Boy and you play some Tetris. It was great. Good fun.
Yeah, it's quite novel, wasn't it, hmm. Hmm, was it adventure? Even get the candles out. So love getting the candles out. Black out. Let's get the candles. Yeah. Yeah.
It was, it was tell some ghost stories. Great time and start a fire. Really good. Now you're just like, oh, my God, my phones about to run out of charge. What?
Do I do? Yes, you gotta.
And you just. You're like what? What do?
I do. Was it like you try and find? The street prepper.
Hmm.
You know, have you got a solar panel that I can plug into? Yeah, yeah.
Who's got a generator that I can plug my iPhone into? Because yes, not all reliance on it.
Yeah, this one. This one seems encouraged. Blokes to buy like Ford Rangers and just kick them out as if there's some kind of post apocalyptic doomsday. Mobiles. Yes. Yes, it's, I think.
Hmm.
And ohh you could charge it in. The car there, you. Go. There's. Yeah, but.
It's it's the fear of losing power physically, metaphorically.
But you couldn't. But then your car's stuck in the shed because it's like that's linked up to power and just can't. Then you can't turn the.
Now your electric.
Car. Yeah. Good times. You get where you got electric garage doors. You can't even get it out of the shed.
On. Yes. Can I get it? Out so much drama.
Hmm, you gotta go manual. It's crazy.
We had some exciting news though on the 12th Disneyland in Hong Kong opened. Up 9 power outages there.
That's very exciting. No, just but they're a pretty obscure commercial.
On a bright, sunny day at precisely 1245. A young woman overcame her fear of flying. And a little boy turned into a Prince. Father became a brother. And two boys discovered something they didn't have in common. The whole office fell in love.
OK.
And for one little girl, a fairy tale happened. Outside of. It's not magic at work.
So.
That's actually a bit obscure without without seeing the visuals, if you don't have the visuals, it's all quite obscure. Picture Tinkerbell flying around when you're hearing all those sound effects.
What's what was that?
That is all.
Ohh, is that what that was? Tinkerbell's wings.
Something like that, Tinkerbell. Farting around in the in the in the ether.
Hmm.
So officially opened at 1:00 PM on the 12th.
Yeah.
September they did, but the official opening was one I think that well that no, the person was flying at 12:45, so they must have started flying as a 15 minute flight.
Hmm, they said 12:45 in the commercial, yes. This with our lining up fear of flying.
Maybe that's really quite well. Nobody follows Tinker Bell. Maybe flying was it, Tinker Bell flying? Or was it someone? Was it someone in in a plane? Were they in a plane or they just flying?
It's a very short flight to. Hong Kong and new Sydney. Well, think of. Think of our airlines. I don't know. I feel like because Tinkerbell tinkerbell's a fairy. So I feel like the weight limit for Tinkerbell air would be quite low. I don't think you'd be able to. I don't think you'd be able to.
But I think that just meant Tinkerbell flying herself, not in a plane, just Tinkerbell. Flying from point A to point B in 15 minutes.
Ohh right. Well. It didn't say, think about it, said a said a young woman. The fear of got over a fear of flying.
OK.
Yeah, I told you it was obscure. Stop making it more obscure.
3 famed land it was opened on in Penney's Bay on Lantau Island, Disney's first theme park in China and the second one in Asia after Tokyo.
Right.
What does reclaimed land mean? Was it like a rubbish tip before that or something and they just, you know, filled it in and then filled an amusement?
Maybe I don't know. I don't know what they mean by that. And no, I don't know any. I don't understand anything about this. This is very confusing.
Park on top of it. OK, well.
It was a joint venture between Walt Disney Company and the Hong Kong government.
Yes.
So the highlight.
The taxpayer funded them to a degree. Hmm.
Yeah. Highlights combined Disney Magic with Chinese traditions. Mm-hmm. Children saying it's a small world in English, Cantonese, and Putonghua. There were acrobats, the Hong Kong Children's Choir dances, the traditional lion dance. Of course is lion dance. It's gotta be lion.
Yes, yes, a lion dance as opposed to a lion dance 2 very different dances.
Not yes, but the lion head thing.
Yes, with the lion. Yeah. And the drums and the.
Bells. Lots of important people with their vice presidents and. Things.
Ohh yeah, like Michael Eisner, the the the big boss of Disney and Robert Aija with Disney as well. And then they think they had like the chief executive from Hong Kong, Donald saying fireworks of course the Sleeping Beauty Castle with the fireworks. I mean that's what they have Mickey and Minnie Mouse. You know the deal. Well, I don't know. I've never been to Disneyland.
Fireworks. Why? Think.
I think I'd.
Mean.
Like to go, would you?
Like to go to Disneyland. I I feel like it's busy. No, I just don't like views. I don't like lining up.
Feel like you're too old for it now? Busy queues amusement parks is yes. Well, I mean, I certainly don't like the Gold Coast theme parks. Put it that way. I hate them. I hate them. Hate movie world.
And it's annoying. See. Yeah.
Sea. Maybe we'll see what's here. I see what's OK. Dream World hate it. I just hate and. And so I hate amusement parks, but then obviously we did Universal Studios. When we went to the states. And I loved that. That was really fun.
Too much, too much happening at movie.
That was really fun, so I'm I'm not sure I feel like Hong Kong Disney. I feel like anything with the Disney branding on it would. The organised and clean.
Would, but you've still gotta line up. I'm just not. I'm. Not a fan of cues?
Lines, yeah, but you can buy it. That's what I liked about buying those fast track passes. Except I felt incredibly guilty. Whenever I was driving.
But you're still in the line and still had to line up.
It's very short, very short line. You could do the amusement park in like 4 hours instead of four.
Days it had. 4 themed lands Main St Fantasyland Adventure Land and Tomorrowland.
Yes. Yes. So that was like the sort of like the original Disneyland. It was. It was a lot smaller than its American counterpart.
Yes, 2 hotels within it, they projected around 5.6 million visitors in year 1, but it ended up being 5 point.
Yeah.
2.
Oh. Ohh, that's a bit disappointing.
Like you said, it was a fair bit smaller. So because of that, the rides that drew the biggest buzz at the opening were the ones most closely tied to like typical Disney. So Space Mountain, everyone loved that headline thrill ride and it's a small world. That area didn't open until 2.
Like like Space Mountain? Yeah. And then the Jungle River cruise. Yeah.
2008 but that became very.
Ohh, that's disappointing. That would have been. It's a small world, but that's where the teacups are.
Popular once once it did. Isn't it Feng shui was incorporated, which included adding curves at the entrance to guide Chi and they they had very careful castle placement.
I think.
Oh good.
Ohh that's interesting yeah. Look, Castle placement is important, especially in Hong.
Kong, well, you don't wanna place your castle in. The wrong spot.
Well, that's right. Because then you, you know, just forever going. Ohh. Jesus, I wish I didn't put that.
Castle there, it's blocking all the cheese.
It's it's in the wrong spot. It's fun to Mashaei. It's Fung to Mashaei. Excuse me? You don't need to be so fecula about it all.
Sucked up my sway.
Yes, sorry, sorry about that.
That was a word from the last episode that I really liked.
With part of this is good word Disney.
Yeah.
'S pushing to China in the emerging markets.
She's been pushing to China. Sounds like they're trying to take over the world.
Doesn't it? In 2005, it had the four Lambs, as we mentioned, but now, today, present day it's grown, there's frozen. There's marvel. Yeah, those expansions, high tech queues, bigger attendants.
Hmm.
Uh-huh.
Frozen, the frozen world's become a headline attraction. Yeah. There's the Iron Man experience, which is a Hong Kong exclusive Marvel Simulator.
Ohh, that's probably one of those things where you sit in the chairs and it's a cinema screen and it just that everything moves around similar maybe to The Simpsons ride at Universal.
Or the what was the? The Terminator one we were.
Yeah, that ohh that was a bit more insight. That would seem more.
Gave me that, gave me a fright.
Of a theatrette though.
And that had water that squirted you?
Yes.
I didn't like that and air came air and water came.
There, like being shot by air cannon.
Out of the Seas.
In water.
And then for a moment, I thought I actually was gonna get shot by that Terminator that came into the building. That was a bit frightening. I wanted to.
Yes.
Get out like that.
Yeah, amusement parks. They're pretty weird, aren't they? It's pretty weird. It's like, Ohh, Holly, it's a Terminator. Well, ******. Ohh, look out. Ohh, look at the movie Magic come to life. It's a it's a little bit absurd. You know what else I think has ruined amusement parks? It cosplay cosplay.
I didn't. I really didn't like that. And can you stop spraying water on? Me. Yeah. Too much?
Uh.
What? Ohh.
And comic conventions, I think, have kind of ruined amusement parks, because cosplayers are just so dedicated to the. Like I remember going when we went up to Warner Brothers movie World, I was. Like this? Is. And this is because the Batman that I saw at Gamecon in Canberra was better than the Batman, the officially licenced Warner Brothers Batman Up at movie World.
The officially licenced ones are a bit annoying too. They can be pesty.
Yeah, they can be a bit pesty.
It's just like, so don't. Talk to me. Go away.
And it's like I can appreciate it's your day job, OK?
Yeah, but I I don't want you near me. Go away. It was like the time the Silver robot guy sat next to me on the bus and talked to me in robot. Just leave me alone.
But leave me alone. Yeah. Whereas if you see a cosplayer, if you see a cosplayer and you and. You like? They're kind of a little bit shy because they've spent, so they've they've poured their heart and soul into their costume and they don't. They don't want to take any criticism, but if you walk up to a cosplayer and you're like, wow, that's amazing. There's a genuine connection that happens there because of there's an appreciation for their craft and that you've got.
Yes.
The tyres.
We've both got the same kind of passion, whereas the other one is just somebody who's paid to wear a suit.
Ant man and the wasp is so popular there that's an interactive.
Yeah.
Shooter, right? That doesn't sound so good.
Yeah. No.
Mystic manner. It's critically acclaims and Toyland is quite popular now. There's the slinky dog spin and the RC racer. They're the family friendly expansion, so that was.
All.
Right. It's active shooters are OK? Yeah. Offer Toy Story. Yeah, Toy Story.
Hong Kong Disney.
Over to technology.
Oh. Right. Call the Dutch relatives.
Are ringing. Ohh yes. And they always have their camera on, yeah.
Right up their.
Nose. So it's really annoying. Yeah. And then they expect you to put your camera. On as well.
And so you don't answer it and then it rings again. They hate ringing.
Yeah, it's quite rude. Yeah, because they're paying, you know, usually the old blokes, usually wearing, like, he's just. He's undies. He got one. Hanging out. It's very European, very dark.
Doesn't care.
Yeah.
What are we doing? We're talking about Skype. We're talking about Skype because on the 12th of September, eBay, we're like, we're gonna buy Skype. Yeah, eBay. They put in a bid. They're like, well, we're the highest bidder, and we're gonna buy Skype.
Scott.
Yes.
$4.1 billion in cash and stock was one of at the time one of the biggest tech.
$4.1 billion.
That's ever and it's God's only been out for a couple of years at this stage because it was launched in 2013. We talked about it at the time. But you know why they bought it?
So much money, yeah.
Yeah.
And you. Yeah, because they because they wanted, they wanted to, to have live auctions where.
Yes, this is the horrible part. Wouldn't. Like they wanted to integrate it so that when you wanted to buy something.
Yeah. Do we have another take on 20,020 thousand? Yes. Now there's 20,000 to the man with the webcam that's pointed directly up his nose at the bottom of the screen, 20,000 to the man with the webcam directly pointed at his nose at the bottom of the screen. Ohh. 30,030 thousand over there to the woman who's got a cat sitting in front of the camera. And we can see the cats are looking at us. We don't have any idea what she looks like. That's 30,000 over there. Uh, do we have any more babies of 35,035 thousand? That man over there on the webcam who doesn't realise that he's been ************ in front of the entire team, meeting the. Entire time, but you also had to talk.
To the person selling. Imagine, imagine getting Skype calls when you wax something up on Gumtree or Facebook marketplace. You know the sorts of people that try and try and beat you down, and imagine getting an an, unauthorised or unrequested Skype call in the middle of the night because you're just trying to sell your kids.
Hmm.
Ohh yeah, hell no. Yes, it's it's it's counterintuitive.
Like from 10 years ago.
If I wanna sell something to strangers. If I if I need to make sure that that interaction is as brief and as as as minimal as possible, like even if I've got to sell something on Gumtree right? They're like.
Wanna talk to?
Yeah, OK. We've decided we'll buy it and it's like, cool. Excellent. And they're like, I can pick it up tomorrow. What's your address? And it's like, I don't know. What's your address? This is beaches. OK. You wanna tell them? Well, yeah, yeah.
Yes, I can imagine that they're calling you. On video on Skype. So they bought it, but it didn't go well. So I think. Everyone was like, why did you do that? That was dumb. Some people thought it was visionary, but. Everyone was like, no, that's a that's.
Hmm.
A big mistake.
I just don't wanna do a Skype call to put a bid on eBay. That's just that seems like so.
They added, they added.
Skype buttons though to eBay listings and then in 2007.
Imagine that you put something up. It's like Skype, me.
But imagine you can. To do. It and you accidentally press that and then you. Type someone randomly as well.
I would like. To see statistics on how many people checked that box when they were posting their thing to that they'd be available on Skype for someone to Skype them. I don't see. I feel like it.
My goodness. Like go and take me to the room where the thing you're selling is and show me it in real life.
Wouldn't be many. Wouldn't it be like ohh, I accidentally checked that box and I put the listing up and now every ******* and their dog is Skyping me. In for it.
2007 eBay went ohh yeah OK.
I just wanted to sell some jousting sticks.
This is a.
It wasn't such a good idea we'd overpaid and wrote down 1.4 billion of skypes value.
Yes.
You. Umm. 2009 they sold a majority stake to some private investors.
No. Didn't they bring it down 4.1 billion.
Hmm. Ohh sorry billion 2011. Microsoft swoops in and buys Skype for 8.5 billion.
Yeah.
Yes. Well, there you go. That's.
And we're like, this is going to be our default communication app. It was until it wasn't.
And it was for so long, for so long. Ohh, we all remember it so well. It wasn't till it wasn't and then we got this. That is that tone because, because that is the the the weapon of Microsoft is the weapon of choice of Microsoft Teams is the weapon of choice for work that.
These.
All works.
Yes, but just work across the board. That's I. I shouldn't even do it because I I stop. I shouldn't do it because it it is just triggering. Warning it and it's so funny because when it's a work call, like with me, when it's a work call, even if it's a good call like my default position.
Should be getting paid, just hearing that.
The work call. It's like like it's like here we go.
Who the **** is that? Every time.
Even though you can.
See who it is because their names popping.
And then it's.
Like hello. Yeah. Or people that the people that just teams call you without checking. Are you free first? The unexpected ones always.
Yeah.
Well, you're red, you're red, and then they still call you.
Give me a fright. And I haven't, and I haven't got my headphone, my headset on, and then you gotta plug it in and you can't find you put the USB in upside down and you flick it around. And then by the time we get the headset on, they've hung up.
Yeah.
******* call me back.
So shut down and Skype was shut down this year. In fact, yes, it was. I think you can still, I think they weren't accepting new accounts. I think if you've got, if you already have one, I thought you could keep it a little bit longer. There's like a transition off strategy.
Go on. Go on. 5th of May 2025.
Nah.
I don't know. I I don't know. I know that I was. I was using it for for a particular application that was quite mission critical to some stuff that I was working on. And they took it down. And I was like, I need to find a work around for that. And I'm well, I think, and I have. But it was it was pretty freaking annoying. Let me tell you.
Great.
Yeah, you've seen recently too. Like I was just thinking of those ringtones, how people have gone viral for being at music festivals. I don't know. Some DJ DAT machine musical thief kind of person has and they they were doing the Telstra on hold music. That's some that's some music festival.
Oh.
I like the lady when she was getting a teams call and she started singing rhythm as a dancer. She's like rhythm, rhythm. As a dancer, she's like just singing rhythm as a dancer instead of answering the call. Yeah, that's what actually, you know what? That's what teams should do. They should start selling ringtones.
Along with it, they're trying to do clever things with mundane music. Yeah.
They should sell ringtones like back in the day. So crazy frog could give you.
Oh my God. 1996 called and they want their gimmick back.
Yeah.
Yes.
Imagine that. Well, it would take a lot of the the the pressure off if I if I had fun ringtones ringing me instead of the team. The default teams won, you could give different people different ringtones. You could make your own. You could have some polyphonics. I think I'm on.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Something.
I think you would have been on to something in 1994, but for now, how about we go to the? Charts.
OK, sure. The same number one in UK and Australia, DOCHA.
Alright.
Don't you wish your girlfriend was wrong like me?
That's. I'm gonna. That's what I'm gonna put on my, my Skype ringtone or my teams ringtone for when? Yeah, I'm gonna customise it for when you.
Don't you? Hmm. Call me, OK.
And be like that's no girlfriend. That's my wife.
Oh, I thought you. Were going to make it your. Ringtone when you were ringing out.
No. Then the Customises is attributed to you. Yeah. Yeah. Henry, like, cause, you know, some blokes do it and it's like when they have the imperial March from Star Wars when their wife calls them like, who's that?
I'll if. Can put that. On May. OK, thanks. I think.
Wish your girlfriend was hot like.
Be like, who's that? And be like it's a missus. They'd be like you're a soft.
Well, let's go over to the US jobs.
No.
I'm fairly.
Mel's on the phone.
I've got a cute face.
I ain't saying she a gold, but she messing with no broke broke. And with no broke broke. You down, girl. Go head, get down.
Oh, oh, Mariah only has one song in the charts, but we belong together. Gone. Gone before we belong together in at #4.
Big changes.
Wasn't even paying attention. It's just not number one. I was a bit shocked.
It's just not at #1. Say here off is still there, number 2. So go don't shower #5 we belong together. #4 lose control. #3. Shake it off. #2 brand new number one. Kanye with Gold digger.
Yeah. So I should check that out so. Yeah. Yes.
Saying she a gold digger. Ohh. Someone who broke broke. Now, I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she messing with no broke broke. Get down, girl. Go head. Get down. Get down. Get down. Get down. Get down.
I got it. Yellow.
So yeah, last last week I was saying like 2005 was peak Jason Statham. It's I think 2005 was also peak Kanye like I think this is where Kanye?
Hmm.
Yes.
Beat. It's gonna, like, break out and peaked at the same.
Yes.
Time, perhaps, yeah.
Hmm.
It that that is a great.
They went downhill from the Tay Tay thing.
And that is a great song though, but let's remember what Kanye did the week before this song went to #1 as.
That is. A great.
Yes, George Bush doesn't care about black people.
Well. Yes, that that, yeah, that was the week before.
Yes.
That was the week before dominated headlines and gold Digger was already kind of in the charts, just not in the top 10.
Yes.
But interestingly reaches #1A few days later. So he's simultaneously the biggest pop star and the most politically controversial. Which?
Well it's it's it's.
Is just hilarious because I'm I also.
Perfectly on my hand for Kanye.
Think like the record company, you know, or whoever was around him that was doing the whole A&R and the management side of things would have seen him at that telethon.
And going.
And just going ohh. It yeah. Ohh no. And then a week later he's at the number one position on the charts.
And what? Yes. Phenomenal. This is the second single from his album late registration features Jamie. Foxx on the hook? And samples was built around a sample of Ray Charles's. I got a woman from 1954.
I think this is interesting in the context of the fact that Jamie Foxx played Ray Charles in that movie Ray as well. So here's the Ray Charles song.
Yes.
Good to me. Ohh yeah, she give me money. When I'm in need. Yeah. She's a kind of. Friend indeed.
So I think I think Jamie Foxx really leaned into his experience playing Ray Charles cause he sounds quite like him. Very similar, yeah.
Yes. Very similar, yes, yes, since I he did the intro on hook and then Kanye.
Yeah.
Did the verses.
So it wasn't sampling in that sense of using the recording, it was sampling in that Jamie Foxx saying the saying. The hook, yeah.
Built around it. Story of men who date women only after their money and vice versa. Very witty and cheeky, and cemented him as a hitmaker who could straddle both hip-hop and mainstream pop pretty effortlessly.
And I think that's that's what made Kanye. Kanye was the that he could do hip hop very, very well, but that he was he had the pop sensibility.
Hmm.
There's pop sensibilities. Yes. And it's amazing what a.
Still one of his signature tracks.
George Bush doesn't care about black people.
Will do for your publicity as well. I mean, I I I don't think I'm being cynical. I don't think there's any conspiracy there. I think Kanye was very genuine when he did that. Yeah, but it's it's just so funny that gold Digger goes to #1 the like. Not even the week after days after days after.
Yeah, if you don't have some, I think I.
I think a lot. Of people agreed with what he was saying.
Yeah, let's go to. Let's go to music news. This is huge. The patron St of the podcast is has. Well, it's. This is like Christmas, the Messiah.
Oh. Holy mother. Yes, holy.
So.
Leave holly.
She's given birth, Britney has given birth to her first baby on the 14th of September 2005. Sean Preston Federline is born. Obviously the father is cave fed backup dancer less than a year ago.
Yeah. When did they get married? They got married. It was about a year ago, wasn't it? Was about the same.
Less bit less September.
Time wasn't a fair little bit.
Later in September, I think.
Yes. So she was 20 at the time.
23 yeah. And obviously her transition into full blown tabloid motherhood because the press were.
Kindness.
Obsessed.
Ohh yes and and you know if you got an exclusive. Ohh boy.
Words. Can't you know, words can't explain, and that's all I can. You know? You just it's. It's amazing. It's awesome. I'm very blessed.
I can tell you have a whole different glow.
To you.
Oh, well, thank you. Well, thank.
Really. Do.
You you said something that really.
Caught my attention in People magazine where.
You said I didn't realise.
I could sing till after I had.
The baby. What did?
You mean by?
That well, I just felt like you get to a point when you start singing for, you know, it's like a job and you, you know, and which you love. But I started singing with him in a in a way that where I really enjoyed it. And I think when you really enjoy. One thing it sounds so much better. So the passion's different exactly. So I think that's probably.
You're right, the path is different.
What happened?
Yeah, I think it depends on on what you're seeing to the child like. I mean, she's not going to, like, break into like toxic or slave for you, although maybe for a child, I think slave for you is a great song for a fairer because that's what I felt like when I like, especially with a newborn. It's just like I'm a slave for you.
No. No. Oops, I did it again.
I need to change you and burp you and feed you all. That stuff, right?
Paparazzi staked out the. Hospitals. Every detail of her pregnancy was news. The clothes, the cravings.
Ohh it was it was a bit gross. It was a bit gross.
It was probably one of the first examples of a celebrity pregnancy turning into this 24/7 news cycle as well.
And I think it's just another one of those things that's 20 years after the fact, like the the, just the optics are bad. So like the the biggest loser like we all know that we treated. He Spears as as badly like we as in the royal. Like, I don't know paparazzi world. Everyone put her on this pedestal and put unbelievable pressure on her and and and then the whole when she became a mum like it, that was just more so.
And every move was. Was documented. Every decision she made was critiqued. She was.
I tell it's like the Family Guy.
A terrible mother. Ohh.
Thing, will you please hurry up? It's 100° out here. You're a worse parent than Britney Spears.
And look, I mean the worst parent thing there was things that happened.
Yeah.
You know that kind of.
Which had the baby on. Her lap, which is.
On the lap when she was driving the car and stuff it just it didn't paint her in a.
Very positive light. No. And they obviously had the chaotic show that we talked about, Britney and Kevin Chaotic and a year earlier. I think people felt well. They've done the reality show. We're entitled to see what's going on. There was cover stories.
Well, that was a mess. Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Everywhere. And she was just hounded relentlessly. And then, like you said, we get into like 2006. There was when she was driving with Sean on her. Rap Matt Lauer called out her mummy mistakes on Dateline. There was a whole segment that he did on your.
Yes. Mats. Yeah. But then, I mean, he had his own schedule. So he he kind of. I think that that came back to bite him a little bit. He didn't treat her very well. It was the same with the the Diane Sawyer stuff, all of that.
Yeah, she said she was upsetting mums nationwide.
Horrible.
Yeah.
And it just, yeah, there was a lot of headlines, a lot of unnecessary headlines.
Well.
They just kept swinging. She was bullied and bullied and bullied relentlessly. And I I just.
Imagine that. Imagine having your first kid. You don't know what you're doing. She's only 23 years old as well. So she's that's quite young to be having.
Yeah. You and you're so sensitive to the judgement of others and defensive.
Kids. Imagine having to do that with the paparazzi following your every move and every decision, you're tired.
It's a very. And all your primal instincts and all. Of that stuff and.
You're lactating. Your nips are raw. Like.
Hmm.
Ohh gosh, that would just be the.
Worst. Yeah, I mean.
You.
You can't make excuses for for bad decisions though as well, like like driving with a baby in your lap. It's just that's that's a massive no, no. But I mean I, ah, it's just so gross, isn't it?
Hmm. Hmm.
Like the way we we treated maybe continue to treat some people like that is is a bit gross.
For you.
It's actually almost too much to cope with, like the boom box is overflowing with just a relentless amount of booms, and I feel like as time goes on we just have more things to boom about and it's less and less about it being an actual boomer.
Hmm.
Sing. And it's just becoming a thing. But as a result of, you know, various prejudices that are put in front of various generations throughout the course of society's evolution for some reason, if somebody makes a complaint about something that looks kind of, you know, obvious, then somebody else has to turn around and be a ***** **** and say. OK, Boomer and I don't think that's appropriate. I well, maybe it is appropriate in context, but right here in this context it's as a. Space. This is where you can lodge your boomer complaints. You can send them to us via DM's. You could voice them if you like. Just hit that little record button in the DM's and send us a little voice message. You gotta keep it at around a minute, I think otherwise you get cut off as. We saw which. Happened to Ray a while ago and then spawned another boomer complaint. But you can come and you send it to us. T -, 20 podcasts across the socials get on those platforms that we're all trying to break up with because at least then we might have some meaningful interactions, some meaningful interactions instead of like a whole bunch of spam and commercials and sponsored posts and AI generated stuff that isn't even true. Sam. Booming before the boom is even dropped.
Yes. Yeah, it's preemptive born.
Have you got a boom Mel? Because I don't know how much longer I can keep talking like this. I've I could see you working away there trying to dig up.
Course. Do.
Ohh I had one for ages. I was just looking.
Ohh, you're just leaving me hanging.
I was just following a trail of an RIP to see what happened to someone.
Love it. Yeah, I reckon you were just sitting there just saying. I can see how long. See how long you can go for that's.
Instead of the death content still. Ohh.
What I think you're doing.
Ohh OK sorry I. Was just got bored. Stop listening. Stop listening.
Yeah. Oh, really? I thought you were trying to. Actually, I don't think you were, but I think you. Were trying to entertain yourself at my expense. No. Anyway, Annie, Annie's got a.
Boon for us are. You ready? Is she OK? No, she's not.
And he's not OK.
Like. Yeah.
All right.
Unfair that the older I get, the clearer photo quality gets.
It's true, it's true.
Hello.
And how many people then go out of their way to put a philtre across the photo, thus reducing the clarity?
Yes, yes, exactly.
In order to make themselves look younger.
I know if you if you took a photo of me on a Nokia 3210, no.
Problem. God, that reminds me of life. Do you remember? Thought for the day?
But I think you. Could take a photo on that. Yes, yes.
Yeah, right. The, the, the Christian Television Association used to thought for the day. I I feel like that boom is a little bit of a thought.
M.
For. The day I think there's something in that for all of us, don't you?
Alright, we've got a new number one over at the US box office, one that I definitely didn't see. You loved this exorcism of Emily Rose.
This this is so good and this is the only thing we're gonna focus on this week, cause the number one in Australia is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. So we're just the exorcism of Emily Rose was a fantastic horror film. I really, really enjoyed it, especially Jennifer Carpenter, who was her breakout role because she did this like it was the, the the demonic. Action film. And she did these crazy contortions, which were just so freaky and all done without CGI. She just, like, twist her body into these really awkward positions and then just be like and hold them and then stare blankly and it'd be terrifying.
Don't care about my reputation. What I care about is telling Emily Rose's story. As her guardian and protector to the full board has entrusted the souls of what it deemed to be related to heaven, but therefore the God of peace. To crush Satan, we need our feet.
Do you understand how long they can?
Put you away for this. I want people to hear. What only I can tell and what is that? What really happened to Emily and why?
So she believed that her actual possession began that night at.
The hospital I think she did.
Emily had epilepsy. Father Moore's beliefs are based on superstition. The father? Moore asked you to give her. Any medical help I couldn't.
Help, I couldn't help.
Because there are no injections against the devil.
How scary. How scary is that trailer? Just with the little like the demon voices in the background and the recording? Ohh the the the scariest thing about it it's look, it's loosely based on a real case and the the real case was Annalise Michelle, who was a German woman who died in 1976 after a series of exorcisms.
Yeah. Where is this? No, thank you.
OK, so the story of the film is a priest named Father Moore, who's played by Tom Wilkinson, who gets accused of negligent homicide after the exorcism of Emily Rose. And it it's sort of half, it's half, This is why I liked it. It was half courtroom drama, half horror movie, and it was quite horrific. And I think the courtroom drama gave it it sort of grounded in in, in a little bit of reality.
Hmm. Hmm.
Is that where you're like? Ohh, I can breathe now. It's not so scary. Back in the courtroom.
Ah, yeah. And then it's like, oh, no.
Now I can just chill for this.
They're doing a. Flashback. Oh my God. Yeah. No. So Emily's, like, battling all these visions, that and contorting and having seizures and stuff, which is really hard to watch. Like, it's hard. To watch and it usually happens at 3:00 in the morning, and then it's like what she possessed or what she's suffering from, a psychological condition, and that that's the whole crux of it. And it is is scary like and good. Like I like a good scary movie. And that was that's a good one. Like that's demonic possession films are always. Yeah, they're a bit hit and miss, I think, and I I rated this one like, aside from the exorcist, I like. Yeah, they're my favourite. They're like they're like buddy films for me. You know, I'm a heavy metal fan, so they like buddy movie.
It's one of your favourite demonic possessions, right?
No, not like the OG is the Exorcist, but I would I would put the exorcism of Emily rose up there. I think it's pretty good. It's not quite the exorcist, but very, very good. I mean, there's no head spinning or, you know, pea soup, vomit or anything. But other than that, I give it. I give it 4 baphomets out of five.
Hmm.
Budget of 19,000,000. Bat grossed over 145,000,000, so it did really well as a surprise hit. Actually I think they were quite surprised by.
What's the what's the horror movies coming out like the?
That.
Well, you had the ring in the grudge. Yeah, but it was different from that jump scare kind of horror as well, because there was that moral. Angle 2. Faith versus science, belief versus medicine. And it was actually tied to the like you said, a real. Story as well.
Yeah, people didn't like that, but I mean. People didn't like that. People loved that. Ohh, it was based on a true story and it's a horror movie. I mean, what could be more scary? Books we didn't read, yes. Scary Book action book. What's this comedy book biography?
No. No, I think it is, yes.
Mystery. I forgot. They're all mysteries. Why are all the number one New York Times bestsellers? Mysteries. Everyone wants a mystery. Do they? Alright, fair enough.
We liked mysteries in 2005. Queens blankets called I forgot. To write down the authors name.
Ohh so you don't know who wrote it.
Point blank by someone I think they had a last name that started with C.
Will you?
Well, you do the thing and I'll do the synopsis and we'll find. Out. Who we can attribute this? OK, the explosive action kicks off as treasure hunting, FBI agent Ruth Warnecke. He is on the trail of stolen Confederate gold hidden in Winkles Cave in Western Virginia. I don't think I can sustain that. She never expects to find herself Chin deep, chin deep, never been chin deep in anything. This chin chin deep in a grizzly murder that leaves her nearly dead and rocks the town of.
No, that feels very quick, Sandy.
Maestro, maestro. Where do you live? I live and at a stake out in Maryland, FBI agents Dylan Savage and Dane Carver are nearly killed in a horrific explosion while attempting to rescue a kidnap victim. Pinky. Woah.
Direct.
Jack, Pinky, Womack, the the lost cousin of Womack and Womack.
Ohh, footsteps on the remind me.
Yeah. On the dance floor, they go to Arlington National Cemetery where they not only find Pinky Womack, but Savage, who takes a fateful call on his cell from an old man out to kill both of them and Sherlock. It's good that you have someone called Sherlock in a in a mystery, I think.
Baby of you.
And The thing is, they have no clue why the person is is out to kill them, and then they're pitted against an insane killer and his psychotic teenage girlfriend. Savage and Sherlock find themselves fighting a heat. Villain with a long and terrifying memory. Do you know who?
Wrote it? Yes, Catherine Coulter, I told. You that last night started with C.
Catherine Coulter? Yes.
Top and quarter.
What are the reviews look like?
OK. Mary Anne, one star without a doubt. One of the most stupid and ill written books I have ever read. I only finished it so that it would count towards.
Yeah.
My readers challenge.
Ohh good. Well it's. All about runs on the board. It's about statistics. Doesn't necessarily mean you know. Yeah. And you gotta pick your books and your battles when you're doing a reading challenge. If you're going to have the stamina to go through it, ALM, ALM melts and one star I saw point blank on the sale rack of the local bookstall A hardcover for under $8.
Some readers challenge they're very competitive. Those readers challenges.
So I thought what the hey times are hard. I'll give it a try. Don't waste your money on Coulter, even if it's only $8 for a hard back.
Roberta two stars. Everyone seemed to hug and kiss Savage. Which frankly was a little off putting to me.
Yeah, that is. I mean, if you've got a a character in there that's kind of central of what everyone's hugging and. Kissing you much. Just a little bit too much. Maybe somebody could have, you know, just shake hands, perhaps.
Too believable possible. OK. Our next review is from the two Haiku reviewer.
Oh oh, that's their their name. The two haiku reviewers.
At 2 haiku by name, 2. Haiku by review.
So they review the story with two haikus. You need 2 haikus to complete the review.
IQ's correct. Would you like to do the first one?
That's.
OK. Agent almost killed saved by local town sheriff. But find the murdered girl. Ohh.
Hmm, nice one. Alright, the second of the two haikus from 2 haiku reviewer not fully resolved, started great, but then slowed down 3 1/2 staff.
Hmm.
I think they're my new favourite reviewer.
Yes, we could follow them. I have an account. I set up a burner account so I could follow Lois.
Really.
Ohh, you've got a burner account on good reads. That's awesome.
Yeah, I think, yeah. So you can follow Lois. I am following Lois.
Well, and are you.
So we'll, I'll have to follow 2 Haiku review.
I think that that's a great stipulation for reviews. I think it's like I'll, I'll accept your review, but it needs to be presented in two haikus.
Yes.
2 Not just one cause you gotta prove yourself because one could be. A fluke, yeah. But two. Nah, you definitely got it.
The homestretch attaches matches and dispatches time and look. There's only really one thing that we need to focus on this week. It's a match. It's our clue. I love this quote. It's so good and it's the best thing about it is, is that I surprised you with it at the start of the show. You didn't actually know what was being discussed until you heard it. A celebrity who tied the knot this time 20 years ago that said this.
This.
And this is ******** about women. Fine. But when they're pregnant that they're at it all the time, that's absolute crap because I had sciatica and I couldn't bloody move half the times like an old woman getting in and out of bed, letting on doing that towards the end. So he's deprived a bit of that. So you just got a bit of a sucking hold of the ********. As you do.
As you do, if you said Katie Price AKA Jordan. Would be correct. Jordan married your.
Yes.
Celebrity Hall pass, *****. Peter Andre on the 10th of September in 2005 and hi. Claire. Yes, at hi. Claire Castle in Hampshire. I don't. Was she pregnant at the time that she married him? I think she may have been.
Yes. Married my funky junkie. How dare. She.
Ah.
Not sure, but they were on. The celebrity show year or two ago?
Just a little suck and a fondle of the ********. Maybe she have stuck to that in the 1st place. You wouldn't be in this mess. Hmm. Yeah, sorry. They got married.
Grand ceremony at the down downtown Abbey was in the show.
Yes, that's that's where it was. Yeah, that was the estate that. Yeah, that. Mm-hmm.
Mega spectacle, it's one point. Seven £5,000,000 it costs well, no, that was exclusive. Sorry. They got paid 1.7.
No, it didn't. No, that's how much they got paid. They got paid 1.7 million £5,000,000 just tell their story to OK magazine. Yeah.
From OK. She arrived. I remember this. I remember this all over the news. That was probably a new idea, actually. Who? Who? Weekly and People magazine. Not the rude people. The other people. The pump. Yeah, Cinderella, the the.
Ohh the big.
Pumpkin, she came in the pumpkin coach.
Yes.
No, the other people, not the truck stop people, the, the American people.
People 6 white horses chew fairy tale. She wore a pink jewel satin gown. The Princess style 7 metre train a foot high tiara. I remember that too.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's a big pumpkin 6 white horses. Yeah, that's not. I don't. That's I don't think once the tiara gets over a foot, that's it. That's not a tiara. That's a crown, mate. It's you're kidding yourself. It's a crown. That's not a.
Let's leave. That would be weighing your head down.
It's.
Tiara. It's over a separate.
And he had a. Swarovski crystal studded waistcoat. Peter yes.
Of course he.
There was a gas leak as Rocky Star gas leak near the venue caused major delays at the start of the wedding. Guests arrived late and portable toilets became an unexpected. Ohh, she said she didn't enjoy the day. In the end. I think it was on a talk show. Later she actually had post Natal depression. Unfortunately yes. And then they and a lot of the photography they're having to do the press shots. It was all quite overwhelming.
Ohh so she already had the baby, right?
She felt she had some famous famous bridesmaid Sarah Harding from Girls Aloud.
Yes.
Hmm.
Michelle Hayden from Liberty X and Carrie Katona from atomic kittens. So all the girl bands were there.
Yes, there's a couple of soccer players there as well. Wayne and Coleen Rooney, Wayne Rooney, obviously being the soccer player wife Colleen Paul Gascoine Gazza Gascoigne was there eating foie gras and lobster. The waiters were singing opera to them. Marina Marquis that had pink feathers and Bay trees and crystals and giant chandeliers and.
Ohh not. Of course. Yes, perfect.
Cloud covered throats it all sounds quite.
It's all very Jordan, isn't it?
Classes I. You know, I mean, aside from the obvious back in the day, I I quite like Jordan, but I I like Katie Price, the person. She's very sassy. She just, you know, she she made the most. She made the most of what she had and she did pretty well out of it. I mean, she's kind of suffered the, the the.
She's sassy. Yes, she is sassy. 0.
No.
Same thing. A lot of people do that have that cosmetic surgery, though I think it's certainly taken a toll on her body.
I don't think she's doing too well these days, money wise. Either she. So she called that her dream wedding and and loved it. But no, I don't think. Yeah, money wise, I don't think she's doing too well and.
90 really.
Peter Andre, cause I do follow him, of course. Still yes on Instagram, not on his fan club. He never wrote. I wrote back to him again and then he never wrote back to me, so that ended.
But sounds like you had it took you like you had it, and then he went off and married Jordan instead. You feel a bit jilted.
From Mary Mary Jordan. That's why I didn't hear back from him. Was busy, busy with the ********.
Yes, come little. Sucking the bolus. Even with sciatica. See, she's there. She's a trooper.
Cupping or whatever that was.
Yeah.
No.
Well, the other day he posted something.
I I tell you what, a bloke wouldn't be. Doing anything if they had sciatica, you know at all sorry I can't. I've got sciatica. You.
No, no. Know Peter Andre? Yes, on Instagram the other day. Put something up saying that he has to. He has to say something because of the outright lies. There's something going on. She said something now. Yeah, and I.
Ohh they're feuding, are they? They've divorced. Clearly. OK, well, that's what. Yeah, yeah.
Think it's. Ohh yeah, long time ago he's remarried. He had he had another baby, but I think they have a.
Ah.
Daughter Princess is. Hmm. Yeah, yeah. There's something not nice going on. There's a bit of back and forth on on the social so.
Well, that's a bit of a shame. That's like. All of them, though.
Look, I hope they sort. It out. I hope she's OK, but.
They kind of all end up in the same. Place, don't they?
That's what happens. When you go on these celeb reality shows and have your own TV show and sell your wedding to OK magazine.
From £1.75 million I mean gross. Ohh well that's all's well that well, I don't know.
Hmm.
That ended, I guess as expected. So that's the end of the show. We're done. We're done for another week. Congratulations on your nuptials and forthcoming divorce and all of that sort of stuff. Jordan and Peter. Andre. Hmm. Yeah. Well, what? I don't know. We'll just find out what happens next week. Next.
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