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Rewind to 9 October 2005 to 15 October 2005

🚀 China goes full space cowboy
China’s Shenzhou 6 mission blasts off, sending two taikonauts into orbit for nearly five days — a major flex in the global space race. It’s their first two-man crew, the first time anyone’s used the orbital module as living space and a huge leap toward their future space station plans. 

🎭 Harold Pinter gets the Nobel nod
Britain’s master of awkward pauses and passive-aggressive menace finally gets his due. Harold Pinter wins the Nobel Prize in Literature “for uncovering the precipice under everyday prattle.” Translation: he made small talk terrifying. His acceptance video lecture goes nuclear on the Iraq War, proving you can drop a political bomb even while clutching a Nobel medal.

🏁 Bathurst: Holden hearts soar
On 9 October, Mark Skaife and Todd Kelly steer their Commodore to victory at Mount Panorama, bagging Holden’s sixth Bathurst 1000 win. It’s Skaife’s fifth, Kelly’s first and Ford fans’ collective heartbreak. The track’s hot, the tyres melt and the Holden-Ford rivalry burns brighter than ever. 

🎧 Apple’s “One More Thing” goes video
Steve Jobs slides another gadget flex into 2005 history with the iPod Video — the first iPod that lets you watch TV shows like Lost on a 2.5-inch screen. The crowd goes wild, even if they’ll later admit it was like watching Desperate Housewives through a peephole. It’s also the debut of iTunes 6, where buying a $1.99 music video feels like the future.

🔥 Aardman’s hot potato week
Just days after Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit tops the US box office, a fire destroys Aardman Animations’ Bristol warehouse — wiping out 20 years of clay sets, models and history. Nick Park calls it “cruel irony.” Fans call it devastating. Gromit, as usual, says nothing but looks deeply unimpressed.

🎸 Dolly covers the world
Dolly Parton drops Those Were the Days, turning 60s folk and protest anthems into mountain magic. She ropes in everyone from Norah Jones to Keith Urban and somehow makes “Crimson and Clover” sound like it was born in Tennessee. Critics swoon, purists squint — Dolly just keeps winning.

👻 The Fog rolls in — badly
Tom Welling and Selma Blair front the remake of The Fog, where ghosts seek revenge and audiences seek refunds. Critics torch it (4 percent on Rotten Tomatoes), but it still hauls in box office cash because 2005 was peak horror-remake season. Carpenter’s original remains king; this one just… drifts.

📺 Run’s House blesses MTV
Rev Run of Run-D.M.C. swaps turntables for family tables as Run’s House premieres on MTV. It’s part hip-hop legacy, part wholesome parenting sitcom and somehow ends each episode with bathtub wisdom via BlackBerry. It becomes one of MTV’s few reality shows your mum didn’t hate.

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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with a Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

October 2005. 

T -, 20. This is the talk show minus. 

20 The nice breaker. Don't judge me yet. 

This is bananas. 

It will come. 

My question is, who approved that fit? 

Do you see where? 

This is going. 

Not really. 

Let's go back to a time, a time where you could barely fit 2 episodes of lost on your iPod, where there was only Ford and Holden, and Bathurst was a religion. And when reality TV decided that Reverend Run could be your new dad, that's that's too much. I don't think I could do Reverend Runner, but now, welcome to T -. 20. The podcast that cranks The Time Machine back exactly 20 years to the week. And digs into the news, music, movies, TV, sport, cultural chaos. Dare I say it, that made the mid 2000's the weird and wonderful mess that we can't stop talking about because to hell we're talking about what's happening in the world today. Oh my God, with your host Joe Mel. 

Hello, Mel. Yes. Let's stick our head in the nostalgia sand, shall we? The 9th. The 15th of October 2005 is where? 

Ahead, its China is already preparing to take the lead in space, along with those who may partner with. It. 

Do you know that the Chinese version of an astronaut is a Tycho nought? Yes, because you did the preparation. 

I did know that yes, I had I I, yes. And then I googled it. So I was like, what is a typhoon or and then like, it's a Chinese astronaut. Ohh, great. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Google. 

John, he's astronaut. That's right. And I just, I just saw that then. So thanks for that. They went into orbit with Shenzhou 6, which is that there was a lot of secrecy behind Shenzhou 6. We'll talk more about that a little bit later on. 

What a performance from Todd Kelly and Manscape. 

Yes, a huge performance from Todd Kelly and Marks Gate. They they did some interpretive dance, they told a few jokes. No, they didn't. They just won Bathurst. That's what happened there. And all the Ford fans were devastated, devastated I tell you. 

ID. 

Those were. 

Weren't they ever, Dolly? Weren't they ever? 

She drops an album this week 20 years ago. And it was an album of covers. Beautiful, beautiful. 

Dolly doing some covers he doesn't want to get under the covers. With Dolly. Well, you know what? Yeah. 

Let's be real for a minute. For years and years, decades before it, conversation wasn't about Dolly's songwriting genius. Her business smarts. 

Uh-huh. 

Her abilities? No. 

Her phenomenal voice. Her voice. Oh my God. Iconic voice. 

No, no, no one was talking about that. It was. *****. 

Yeah. Get big, big boots. 

Do you think? 

That would not happen. 

Today you don't. 

Reckon. No way. No, you don't hear conversations about pop stars ***** these days. 

Yes. Yeah, right. Katy Perry. Hello. Katy Perry and and let. 

Who? You you having conversations? 

Me say for. Want of a for? I think she milked it a little. About Evers. But when she was on Sesame Street and she had that low cut top and they all everyone there was so much controversy. But it's not as common. Ohh, because it like that. It's about empowerment. Bit. Too. 

But it's not same. It's not the same because everybody just. That's just wearing revealing clothing. But Dolly, there was just always jokes about her *****. Yes, I remember as a kid there was always jokes. I went to Australia's Wonderland. Yes, our theme park. One of our greatest theme parks. Wonderland. Yes. And I was in the kids area. 

I do remember that as a kids. Yes. Yes. 

The one that had the little baby roller coaster for the little kids, and it had Hannah Barbera, world and all the characters were dancing around. 

Yeah. 

Yes, I know it well. I went many time. 

There was a theatre, there was a Little Theatre of marionette puppets and there was a puppet of Dolly Parton in the kids area. 

Hmm. 

Singing with these ginormous balloon *****, and in the actual singing thing, watching her doing the singing in Anna Barbara Land at Australia's Wonderland at the end, someone the puppeteer gets a big needle and pops their *****. And it was all a big joke haha. 

Ohh really? Yes, at the puppet show, yes. 

In the kids area. 

Deflated her. That's just graceful. It was a different. 

Time it's graceful. Late Night host interview with politicians. Everybody talked about her ***** was the first thing she'd get asked when she'd go on the talk show. 

I really did. 

Oh. 

And Dolly's, like, bless her, she's incredible. And she just, she took it all in her stride. Very self deprecating and made a lot of jokes about it because I think she said if I say it first, it takes the sting out of it when others do it and she's to choose to say things like it costs a lot of money to look this cheap and that her breasts will weapons. 

Ohh I absolutely. That's a tactic. That's what people, that's. Yeah. So I remember that. Yeah. She went in there with. She went all in with that. I mean, it was I I I was she natty or not. 

Of mass destruction. No. Ohh, but she was very she's been very open about that. She's had a lot of surgical procedures over the years and she talks about it. She's very, she's very open and she she. 

Wasn't he? Yes, if you, that's a choice. 

Was like ohh well. 

Putting a rest foot, I mean best foot forward, yes. 

But she owned it. 

She turned it into a a bit of an asset. 

Yeah. Well, yes. 

But behind the scenes, she's there. Bloody writing. I will always love you and Jolene in the same day, in the same day. 

Well, that's, that's what I mean. 

She. 

Ohh yes, did you write those two snows 2 songs? No. 

She told me on the same day. Day same day and all we cared about was an orgs. 

No way really. Not the fact that she was actually a musical genius with a voice of an Angel songwriting ability. 

Still is a musical genius. I do love her. What was the show of hers? It used to be on a Sunday night in the 80s, and I think it was like a variety show that she hosted. I always remember I'd come. I'd be outside skipping or I'd be using my skip ball or I'd be using either the ball where you jump on the go, go ball. 

Up the wazoo. 

Ohh. 

And then the Dolly Parton show would come on. 

Yeah. Or I'd be on my scooter. Yeah. And then mum would. Like Dolly Parton's on like go running for the Sunday, it was like at 6:00 or something like that. And I was always sad cause Sunday night. Gotta go back to school tomorrow. Least Dolly Parton song. It was like a hug was like. 

And you go and you come in and watch dollies. I remember I remember from the movies. I remember from the best the best little Hore house in Texas with Burt Reynolds and I. I honestly think I might have been a bit too young to watch that film, but had seen it anyway and then. And who could forget the classic rhinestone with Sylvester Stallone? 

A gentle hug. Yeah, it's just a lot of movies. Ohh, of course, yes. Possibly. Possibly. 

Uh. Ohh what with that? 

Playing OK, Sylvester Stallone sings in that movie that is worth the price of admission. And you know what? It no. Well, I get it doesn't work. I don't know. But for some reason, it's a cult classic now. And I I put it down to the mismatch. The mispairing of of. Ohh see I'm now. I'm using the words mispairing. I'm getting caught up. 

You see? You you're. You're as bad as the late night. Talk show. Stop it. 

And I'm starting. I don't think I'm that bad. But I I it was that that mismatch of of Stallone and Dolly Parton, it shouldn't have worked. It didn't work at the time but I feel like. It does. Hmm. 

It does now Dollywood theme park in the mid to late 80s. I think that's still going. Actually, I think we should go there. Business ventures, she. 

Yes. Uh-huh. Yes. Well, Trudy's been to Dollywood our friend. True. He's been to Dollywood. She loved it. Yes. Yes. 

Need to ask you about this TV specials and then in the 2000s, obviously we're gonna talk about a bit later, but lots of albums, bit of a renaissance for her. Yeah. And now Netflix specials, collabs with young artists, obviously Miley. 

Oh, it's to his milies. 

Godmother. And they do a lot of stuff together. 

Or whatever. Yeah, well, she sounds. 

And she didn't she? 

Fund vaccine research during the this is a pandemic hero. 

Was she really? Ohh, she's she funded. The Moderna vaccine, is she? Ohh wow. Yeah. Yes. Is she into sheep cloning at all? Because there's there was the sheep named Dolly. 

She had something to do with, I think she funded Maderna. Yes, good on you, Dolly funded Moderna. Still recording, running, Dollywood. No. But she's worth as of at the moment. 

Yeah. 

650 million. U.S. dollars and all we care about are ticks. 

Really. 

I don't think, well, that's not true. 

But that's but. 

Alright. 

That was so that was so eighties, 90s, early 2000s. I just think it's. 

It was a different. Time. I don't think that's all we care about now. 

I think it's so unfair. It's not what I care about. I think she's amazing. I love her. 

I think we we care about. I think we care about her legacy and the fact that she spanned generations and she's still as relevant now as she ever has been, maybe for different reasons cause it is a different time. 

Yeah. 

The clue the Hatch match and dispatch clue for this week. 

Hmm. 

For the segment at the end of the show, for those playing at home, what have we got this week? Is it a? 

I was like, I don't. Think I did one and then I. 

No. Ohh it's a. 

Remembered. Ohh we. Have a birth, a birth and it's not. A tick tocker. 

Ohh. 

And it's not a you tuber. 

Ah, yes. Are you ready for this? 

I am. 

Well, I'll, I. 

Ohh that's not what. I was expecting. 

I will translate that for you later on and for and let you know who that is at the end of the show. Let's go to the news 12th of October 2005. What happened? Mel, tell me. Ohh, well, we didn't go to space. The Chinese went to space. 

Ohh, we went to space. Well, not US, China, China. They launched Shenzhou #6, so there was 5 that proceeded. 

Yeah, Marge, the Chinese have gone to space, yes. 

The sixth of those bloody shenzen's. 

Uh-huh. 

Is China's second human Space Flight, even though it's number six? 

That's right. They were a little bit behind in the space race, the Chinese, but they were this is them playing catch up in the early 2000s. They're like, yeah, we can do this as well. I mean, they didn't have the advantage of being able to bring the Nazi rocket scientists into their country like the Americans did. You know, it really. Yes. I mean, it's very hard to do. 

Hmm. 

Unfortunately, isn't it? 

Rocketry without a Nazi rocket scientist. 

It was launched on a long March 2F rocket carrying. 

Yes, that was the name of the rocket. The Long March, of course, named after the famous. 

Ohh yes yes carried 2 taikonauts which we've established as a Chinese astronaut. 

Long March, yeah. It's. For. Yes, a taikonaut, yes. 

I think cause Ty Tyco is something to do with space. I think is the origin of that. For anyone who cared. 

Right. Copy that. Yep. 

Faye Junlong and NI Hai Sheng 5 days now. The 2 * 5 days in low Earth orbit completing 76 orbits. God should be dizzy, wouldn't you? 

They were the Tycho nuts, yeah. They would say and me their heads would be spinning. 

First time the crew used the orbital module for living and working space. 

Yeah, this is pretty significant for China. It's the first two person crew, a longer mission than Shenzi 5. 5 Shenzhou 6 the longer mission and the first extended use of that orbital module that you're talking about, so it they had to demonstrate endurance and life support and environmental control and more complex mission operations. This is. 

Hmm. 

So and more buttons to press more complex manoeuvres space. 

Space walks, docking, things like that. This is paving the way for a Chinese space station. They eventually get a space station. This is a $110 million. 

Oh. 

Mission. Mm-hmm. And they'd spent over $2 billion at this stage on human Space Flight in the effort to sort of catch up, which was pretty, I mean, well, we'll find out where they are now shortly. But yes, they learned a lot, though, while they're on. 

That mission, yes. How they can live and work in microgravity over multiple days. They tested the safety and engineering. Systems, though you probably wanna test. That before you go, wouldn't you? Not while you're up there. 

Yes, but there's nothing like an IRL simulation, I guess yes. 

Well, you'd try very hard. They gained operational experience with these longer duration flights. 

You would. Their stakes are. A lot higher you would. 

Try much. Yes, the reliability of communications recovery in sport systems. It all went well, thank goodness. Thank goodness for Faye and me. They are OK. They survived. 

Yeah. 

That it's. It did. But they're they're they're trying to keep it for themselves, though. File name. Yeah, this. Yes, lose your ***** in space. You. 

No, no, no, no. There were a lot of secrecy, though. Would be controversial. Leading speculation about military applications. We didn't know what was going on, what they doing. I didn't hear about this. Secrets. Yeah. Yes. Others saw it as a bit of a propaganda exercise to showcase the power. 

No. 

Well, it's, it's almost. It's behind the Iron Curtain again really. Or the Red Curtain, I guess, yes. Well, and they've been working hard at it ever since too. Where is China's space programme now? I'm glad you asked. Let's go to Colin Baker, science editor for Al Jazeera. 

China is already a force in space, but that requires continued space. Science the country landed a Rover on Mars in 2021, joining only the Soviet Union and the United States to have done so. But the Moon offers a practical base for space exploration, and China has several missions already. The Changi Lander returned a sample from the surface in 2020, the first time that had been done in half a century, it revealed. One of the places water might be found on the moon in tiny glass beads, which could be useful information for future missions. Now China runs one of only two places that humans can live in orbit, the Tiangong space. Nation on board astronauts are measuring how their bodies react to weightlessness and how to keep fit. Critical first steps to long term missions. There are experiments on how plants grow, how combustion works in low gravity, how materials can endure, the harsh effects of outer space, and an onboard supercomputer and high speed data. Transmission system to the ground. China is already preparing to take the lead in space, along with those who may partner with it. 

Yeah, and. And let's face it, like the other space station is the International Space Station. But China have the Chinese space station. They have their own space station up there with really good Wi-Fi. By the sounds of. It. Mm-hmm. So look out. Pretty fly for a Wi-Fi. It's it's it's. It's interesting to see them catch up especially. And now with all the privatisation and stuff, I think. 

Hmm. 

The the I love space exploration so much and I hope that it gets more and more competitive, but I I don't. 

We wanna go up there. It's a bit cheaper. The price comes down, discounted fares. 

Like. I don't like the secrecy. I don't like the secrecy. I want to know what's going on. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. You could take like Jetstar to space or you just hand luggage. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ohh. Sorry. Can't go outside. Can't exit the aircraft. I've only got hand luggage and I couldn't fit a space suit in it. Let's go to some literature. Let's get cultured on the. 

Hand luggage only. 

13th of October. 

Ah yes, Harold Pinter wins the Nobel Prize for literature. 

He was a a playwright. 

Screenwriter, director, actor. One of the most influential dramatists of the 20th century. Really. I thought that was you. 

Hmm. 

Ohh, **** ***. Yeah. OK, so I'm a drama queen, alright? 

His work often features you are very dramatic, sparse, sparse dialogue. 

You love it. You love it. Yeah. And you love it. 

Please long silences. That's what happens when you're too drunk. Too dramatic. Get the long silence ambiguous. 

Is that a long enough silence for? You. Yeah. OK, yes. 

Oh, OK, I said. Ditto ambiguous motives and themes of power menace and miscommunication. A style that was later called the Pinteresque. 

It sounds very pinteresque named after the. 

Mood board application. 

Favourite screen writer, director and and and actor Harold Pinter. 

Ah, of course. Notable plays include the birthday party. In 1958, the caretaker in 1960, the homecoming 1965, and betrayal 1978 sounds like a busy time. 

Yeah. Also also wrote the screenplay for the French lieutenant's woman and adaptations of works by Kafka and Pulst. He was a very smart man, and this is his sport. Well, part thereof. This is the introduction of his speech. 

In 1958, I wrote the following. There are no hard distinctions between what is real and what is unreal. Nor between what is true. And what is false? I think it's not necessarily either true or false. It can be both true and false. I believe that these assertions still make sense. And do still apply to the exploration of reality through art. So as a writer, I stand by them. But as a citizen. I cannot. As a citizen, I must ask what is true. What is false? 

And and it goes on for a bit and I just wish even at the start somebody would give. The. Man, a glass of water. Yes, it's got a bit of cotton mouth while he's doing his Nobel Prize speech. But it was a very big moment for him. It was very significant because he. 

That was a bit nervous. 

Hey. 

This he was one of the last great figures of that post war British theatre that was honoured on such a massive scale and a big literary giant alongside people like Samuel Beckett, Tom Stoppard and it got lots of attention because of his his literature was really politically engaged, so it's shone. 

Hmm. 

Yes. 

Light on that stuff. He was very outspoken when it came to. 

Politics, which also meant that it was a little bit controversial as well and him winning the prize because he was a a vocal critic of US foreign policy of NATO, of Britain's involvement in Iraq. 

Hmm. 

Mark and some of his his literature did go beyond into this quite fierce political commentary, which some praised as courageous and others criticised as inappropriate for the occasion. And, you know, questioned whether or not he should have won the prize. He's later career was defined by activism. 

Hmm. 

As by play writing, which divided opinion, but also again reinforced his reputation as someone who was uncompromising in in what speaking what he felt. 

Hmm. Yeah. He died in December 2008. Of liver cancer, actually. And that was three years after he obviously won this award. But his his plays are staged all over the world. His influence has been studied through universities and halls far greater than these, and his political writings. A lot of people go back to them as well. The Theatre in London, the Harold Pinter Theatre. Was renamed in his honour in 2011. He has a massive legacy and I really do think you know, this is a very highbrow story for this show. I wanna dumb it down a little bit. And do some sport if you don't mind and and and what better sport than not Bathurst? 

Oh, it's got to be eights, love. 

What a performance from Todd Kelly and landscape and Kelly is 26 today. What a birthday present skate sensational in the Super 2 Moto 1000. Scape and Kelly do it. Great job. Bless your birthday, son. Happy birthday, Tom. There he is. And Jason Richards, his best ever result with Jamie Winter. 

Right. 

Guy. 

Yeah. There you go. The Bathurst 1000 Mount Panorama, no drama or some at on the 9th of October, yes. 

That's the the 46th running of the great race. 

And the 26th birthday of Todd Kelly, where he won. 

Hmm. 

Amazing, beautiful conditions, dry and clear. Unlike some of the infamous wet Baathists. 

Great for racing. You don't wanna wait. 

Bathurst ran a full 161 laps. Which is 1000 pays. 

The. K's yeah. 

Hot temperature tracks added to tyre wear and call management challenges across the day. 

I think this is this is peak Holden Racing team, isn't it? Or it's getting pretty close to Holden Racing team with Mark Scaff and Todd Kelly. 

Hmm. 

HRT, I think is. What you call it, isn't it? 

Yeah, HRT in the in the Commodore VZ. 

Well, that's also the hormone replacement therapy maybe. 

This is like this. Is escapes dynasty like it's his fifth Bathurst 1000 win which which puts him. 

It's not HRC. Right up lounge, his lounge. He's still fanging it around the track in these days. I mean, lounge is still there. 

There fairly. Craig Lance was as well. Yeah, but but for Todd Kelly, first Bathurst victory. 

Yes, still still quite still. 

First one. 

Quite young and lounge he lounge. He was in that one, actually he hit. 

The wall? Yeah. Yeah. No. Good. Yeah, that ended it for him as well. There. There. There's always stuff. Yeah, always. Which is great. Remember, the Tommy Kangaroo went on the kangaroo was a big deal. 

Like to. Have a stack. Stacks. The kangaroo? Yeah, I'll wait. That's whenever someone says Bathurst. I just think of that kangaroo flying across the tobacco. Yes, yes. 

That is terrifying. Look away, kids. Ohh, dear. And then come back to Bathurst. Yeah, so there was like, if you did not finishes some punctures. Couple of pranks. I would have a prank at Bathurst swap details. All that sort of stuff. But you know, it's Holden versus Ford. It's back in the golden days of. 

Whoops. Hmm. 

Of Bathurst before there are any other cars. It was wonderful, scaff Kelly stinging forward fans pretty hard, lousy going out. Everyone's upset controversy around safety car calls, whether they help or hurt team Strategies, which is always a talking point even to this day. And scafe very polarising at the. 

Time. Well, that's right. People didn't like him, did they? 

He was pretty fiery. He's a bit arrogant. I think he's a nice guy. All the V8 supercars knew how to do me drive. Not the not the cars, the drivers or how to do media very well. 

They thought he was arrogant. I remember that. Lovely. Lovely. Well, I sat and lounged his car and accidentally pulled the steering wheel. 

Off that wow. Excellent. I'm glad that's. You know, because. 

Now, he said. That's fine. It comes off. Don't worry. 

Yeah, yeah. Cool. 

It was fine. It was very. Nice about it. I didn't get in trouble. Yes. 

That is very good. Yeah. Because you don't? Yes. You OK? Well, no, you don't wanna pull anything off in the in in a V8 supercar. Really. No, but. Well, that's also significant as well because you and I and and as I was saying, they do do really good media. And you had the opportunity back in the day. 

Yeah, when Ronnie's car. Nine. Oh my gosh. 

They do. 

Ohh I well yes, I sat in lounge this car and broke the searing, but I did also talk to Todd Kelly. I think it was the year later we went to cause they do all. The V8 Supercars, not just Bathurst. 

Yes. 

Super cars and we went to. 

Is it Oran Park, Oren? I think it's called Orin. Orin. Orin. It's Orin, orin. It's backing Oran we went. 

Yes, Orange Park or not orange, it's Orange Park, Orange Park Raceway, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Bring your check. Yes. 

We went to. 

Can Aaron Park and I got to I. 

Oh, OK. 

Got to interview me was lovely. 

We probably need to set this up a little bit because this is a kids TV show that you you. 

Ohh yes, I was there with a giant inflatable possum that's mute. 

Were there for. With a a person in a giant inflatable possum suit, right. 

Yeah. So it's me and the and the. 

Mute. Yeah. So you've got your. Yeah. 

Inflatable possum talking to Todd, not just. Me. There's two of. Us there double interview double acts. 

Very hot, very. Hard hitting interview with Mel and the Masuki. 

Yeah. 

Draw them. 

Kelly, welcome to the Saturday club. Now, before we start this guys asked me to tell you biggest song fan in the world. Just wanted to let you know there's very excited today. Now, how did you get your start in the? 

He's pretty excited. UX well, when I was about 8 years old, I got into go karts and just worked extremely hard at that and progressed up through the categories. And and finally got my big. Break into about superpower. 

So these are go karts that that sort of. Go carts that we can go out to on. The weekend and then that's where you started. 

Yeah, I think you'll find pretty much any V8 Supercar, Dr even Formula One. Drivers all began at a young age, you know, between 8 and 10 years old in the. Go Kart. So we've all come from there. 

What advice would you have for anyone who perhaps would be interested in becoming a? V8 supercar driver when? They're off. 

Get into a go Kart, but like any sport, if you wanna be professional, you really need to work hard. There's a lot of people that wanna be professional footballers or tennis players and if you wanna get there, you've gotta make sure you work harder than everybody else and and. You may just get there. 

Gotta put the effort in and finally, what would be your most proudest? 

Gonna put the effort in. 

Treatment. 

Probably winning Bathurst, that's that's pretty much the biggest thing that you can do as a race driver, the championship in Bathurst and actually we won myself and Mark Skate, we won Bathurst on my 26th birthday. So that that was awesome, yeah. 

Great present. Well, thank you so much for having. A chat to us and. 

All. 

The best. 

Thank you. Ohh, so he's talking about this, that one, that one and the one ohh no, I put him on the spot. He was. 

Hard hitting questions. 

So. 

Like the the category floor, it's like you know, so Mark Skaife. 

Stressed, stressed as. 

Bit of a. 

*******. Was he? Well, I asked him. I asked him as well if he had any sort of traditions or anything that he did before the race. I was hoping for something quirky like, you know, wear socks that I haven't washed for five years or. Yeah, yeah. 

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something like that don't shave. 

You don't wear undies? I don't know. And he's like, yeah, I just need a good. Breakfast. I was like, oh. 

Ah. 

But it is the most important meal of the day, and I do. 

Right. 

It is, it is and. He was telling the children so it's very appropriate there was. I remember when we were there, so I broke lousy steering wheel. I also spoke to one of the female V8 supercar drivers. I can't remember her name. She was. 

I think it's a very good message for the kids. 

Incredible. But then. 

No. Is it the one with the only fans now? 

No, not the great. The Gracie Renee Gracie. No, not Renee and I was walking around and there was a a driver, and we didn't interview because I didn't know who he was. And he. 

Oh. 

Came up and he actually said. 

Ohh do. 

You think you could interview me as well? 

I can't remember which one he ended. 

Up becoming quite famous. I'm trying to remember. Who it was. 

Say it ain't good with the mania. 

But at the time, at the time, he wasn't well known. I think it was like his first V8 Supercar race, and he'd seen us interviewing everyone and felt a bit left out and asked if he could. 

Have an interview too good on him. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I saw. 

Right. Don't any for he's lovely. 

If I saw. A hot young male with a giant inflatable possum walking around. I would be offended if they didn't come and talk to me absolutely. 

China gradable. Nuts. Interview interview me as well please. It was a great day. And like you. Say they are all so lovely and we used to interview a lot of them on the radio as well. Who was the one that used to come? 

Hmm. 

In and talk to us. 

Brad Jones, Brad Jones and John Bower. John Bower. Yep. Yep. Great guy. Great guy. Well, great. You know, sponsors and money and stuff. It's very. 

No, there's another one. John bowl. I loved him. He was lovely, wasn't he? Yeah, all really good. Well, anyway. 

To race those cars, it's very expensive sport. So you don't wanna be ******* off any potential. 

It is. It is. Investors. No, that's right that that was Bathurst. 

Let's go to technology. Big news, big news. Apple are always doing things around this time of year. 

Yes. I feel like we just did an apple reveal of a similar product, didn't we? A few weeks ago you were talking about the the little, the little one, the one that fits in your little jeans pocket, your little, your little. No, we don't know what the pocket is. The nano pockets nano. 

Yeah, I think so. Then the nano, the little, the one that goes in your little change pocket. In your jeans. It was job jobs. He's back up on doing the keynotes again and I. 

Well, doesn't pull out of his pocket this time. 

Well, yeah. What doesn't he? 

But what about the white iPod? What about the white iPod? It's been a huge success for us. And therefore it's time to replace it. The new wide iPod. And yes, it does video now. It is really, really beautiful and very thin and I want to take you through a few of the things it does. Number one, first and foremost on our list is music. It is the best music player we've ever made. It's got a gorgeous, large screen. That's the best thing in the world for album art. The Sonic quality is fantastic on it. You can play audio books on it. You can also play podcasts on it. Everything you do. With music and spoken word, it's fantastic. For photos, it's the best iPod we've ever made. This giant high quality screen lets you see more of your library than ever before, and the photos just look gorgeous on it. 

Giant high quality screen. It's like an inch by two inches. It's tiny, not even maybe. 

Why would you? 

Where would you put? 

Your photos on your iPod. 

Ohh people did they did? Yeah. 

Then. 

It was. It was a different time. 

I never had an iPod that had a screen I was too poor. I had the the shuffle, had a shuffle, and I had a little, you know. 

I got I got this one. This is my first iPod. I think I got with the screen. Well, it was a classic, but it it had it had a screen, yeah. 

Also just the classic. With the video, did you watch videos? 

Yeah. 

I tried it's it wasn't very good for the eyes. Yeah, you have to hold it right up in front of your inception. 

You have to squint. 

What did you watch on it? 

It was long, too. Yeah, out. To a power supply. Ohh, it really did give me a headache. I mean that movie gives you a headache at the best of times for them to watch it. I mean, it's just what a glutton for punishment watching inception, which is a total head of a movie on the screen that's more. That is a ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. 

I'm getting a headache just thinking about it. Ground, but still ground. Bake, ground breaking. Not an iPod. 

Did you hear that bit, though, in it as well, where he goes and it does video and everyone's like ohh and they get really excited but you can hear one guy that just has he's a little bit too excited. He has a full nerd gasm. It's like it's like and it does video he's in here. 

Ohh tell me. 

Ma. 

Let's go back. 

And yes, it does video. 

Oh, oh, Oh my goodness. 

See that guys? And I'm out. I'm spent. He's. 

Yeah. It's gonna go change mine. 

Oh my goodness, yes, he was very excited, I guess it. 

Wow. 

Was very excited. 

Well, the iPod then it was. It was remarkable. It went from music only to a portable media hub. You could look at your photos like you said, listen to to broadcasts and audio books and put your album art on there. 

Yeah, I wasn't ideal. Yeah, it wasn't, wasn't idea. 

And iTunes 6 is also launched at the same time and then you could start downloading the videos and buy the music and watch the videos on there. 

Yeah. That's right. And TV shows and stuff, yeah. That was the start of that, that mainstream video distribution, big deal. That was actually probably more ground breaking than the iPod itself. And I feel like. They were like ohh. We're going to do this, we're going to make video available through iTunes and like Holy, we need to put a video player. 

Something to. Play them. 

On the iPods? Yes. Hmm. 

Yeah, OK, yeah, probably the videos. Music videos cost around 2 bucks each. The 5th Gen iPod was between 300. For 30 gig. Yeah, and 399 for 60 gig. You had the 60 gig, didn't you always buy this much gig as you can? 

16 yellow. Yeah, the big sucker. 

Hmm. 

I needed the gig. I had it it it. Remember. It took me, like nearly a month to get my entire CD collection. 

Yes, I know. I know you had lots of hiccups along the way too. I do remember lots of swears coming from the House computer room. 

Onto it, yeah. Ohh it was not a good time. Yeah, well, we were trying to do it with the PC as well. 

Yeah. Ohh, that was great, wasn't it? 

The time I. Think so? It was very difficult. Wasn't easy, yeah. 

Pave the way for movies and rentals on iTunes and later Apple TV, obviously, and heightened the appetite for portable video. Even though the screens were quite small. 

Not that small, please. Not that small. It was terrible and. And I think, yeah, well, they they were criticised and justifiably so. It's a 2 1/2 inch St like who wants to watch inception on a 2 and well I tried. 

Over 14 million people, apparently that's what was sold in quarter four 2005 alone, 14 million in three months. 

I tried. We're all stupid. We're all silly. We're all very silly. Yeah, it's crazy. 

Music. Now let's start with the US charts. 

My love. My love. 

With different kind of girls. None of them at all. 

This photograph. 

Relax. 

Our eyes get some red. Keep on playing games like. 

Broke, broke. Get down, girl, go here. 

Damn. 

I'm sorry, I think I think the numbers, the numbers guy got a little bit confused. 

Why did you say that? Ohh I didn't. I just saw you do a really stupid smile. You. You distracted me. I. Well, there was. 

Yeah. So you need to notice. Didn't notice. I shouldn't have said anything. 

Nickelback. 

You did a smile at Nickelback, and I was like, are you smiling at nickelback's photograph? 

Well, well so. So Nickelback is at #3 now, and he's swapped with like you, so it's not very different from last week. 

Ohh, you OK you put in last week, stitches. 

The number the numbers. No, I didn't put in last week. I I I swapped the 2 tracks around, but I took the numbers with it. So like it went 5342 ones. 

Ohh robot Guy said the wrong number. 

Ah. 

I didn't even notice because you pulled this stupid *** face. 

Yes. Yeah. 

OK. 

At Nickelback and I was like, what are you, what are you thinking about with Nickelback at the moment to make your face? 

Just. 

I'm thinking. 

Look like that. 

Look at this photograph. 

Every time I do. It makes me laugh. 

Right. OK. Thank you. So glad we sorted that out here in Australia pushing it. 

Do you want to say who it was like my humps was? 5. 

Well, it's the same except for. 

And then, like you was four with Bower and then photograph, which was it said 4, but it was actually see Nickelback and then shake it off. OK. Sorry. Yes, continue. 

The one around the other. Is #3. And gold digger, don't ya #1? 

Like me. Don't ship label. Don't ship. Alright saying. Don't you wish your girlfriend was wrong like. 

I saw some influencer dancing to a like a remix of don't ya? 

Row. 

Really an influencer? 

Was it? No ohh fit. No, not really. An influencer fitness person that I follow you really like? No, not no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not not controversial at all. Ohh no. A woman who does CrossFit. 

Chubby swoll ohh par O'dwyer. 

It's amazing. And she was like kind of, I think she did like, a she was sort of dressed as a nerd. And then she put her hand in front of the camera. Then she's. 

Yeah. 

All. Glammed up. That's what it was. Yeah. Thanks. Sorry, I just thank you for. 

Which don't you? 

Joining me on that memory jerk, that was. Good. I don't know. I I totally forgot what? 

I remember you too. 

I saw and then I. Just remembered it out loud, so that was good. 

I was there. I was there all the way, all the way. 

Thank you. Yeah, it was good. So what I'm trying to say is it's it's made its way back into the social medias and people are doing. 

Don't you? Yes, I have noticed that it has. 

Things to. 

Made its way back to this that's submitted. 

Do you think it's because it's the 20 year anniversary and someone's like ohh, it's around 20? Yeah. Yeah, I'm. Just gonna do dance tours. 

I think I actually think you've done really well to even remember a piece of that disposable content, because I I don't retain any of that. I'm like, yeah, that song's trending on social media. 

Well, no, I saw it because I was like, oh, that's interesting because that song's. 20 years old. 

But you you connected the dots, so I think as far as you know, when we get older, I think my memory's gonna go first because I just, I I I I remembered that that song was is trending now. I knew that. Yeah, but I can't. I couldn't place. I can't remember what I saw people doing to. 

Yes. It took me a while to get. 

Us. Right, but you but the the, the but the the important thing is that you. 

There. Took me a while. 

Need it and also that you took us all on the. 

Journey with you? Yes, I think her name is. Is something to do with the fitness journey or something. She's very good. She's got gold, hot pants and she's 55 and can do a handstand. And she's got ABS. 

OK, alright. All right. She's amazing. Let's finish the journey and go to the UK #1. 

Right. OK. Let's journey over to the UK #1. 

Me know before. Control. 

Push the button sugar bags first, single from their 4th studio album. Taller and more ways. One of their biggest hits. It also topped the charts in several European countries as well as the UK cemented them as one of the most successful UK girl groups of the 2000s. 

Right. 

Yeah. 

Thing is about female sexual empowerment and making the first movement of the relationship. 

Ohh, is that push the button? Ohh hang on. I gotta find it first. 

Features the group in an elevator flirting with men very white. OK 5. 

I feel like, OK, I don't know that. That's that healthy. 

Critics praised its catchy hook and confident lyrics. It won Best dance video. It's the UK video award. 

Confident lyrics. I'm just Googling. I wanna Google the lyrics for this. You you carry on. 

Ohh it they was they were heading into a turbulent time for the band actually, but they had a lot of line-up changes, remember Mutia? 

Really. Ohh. 

Your favourite member, Mutia Buena Buena, would leave the group soon after this song hit #1 being replaced by Emil. 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, much. Yeah, mucha boy. Really. Yes. Ohh. 

Yeah. 

Have you found what you? Were looking for. 

No, because for some reason it's not loading. I should probably push the. 

Button. 

OK, busy throwing hints that he keeps missing don't have to think about it. I want to kiss and everything around it, but he's too distant. I wanna feel his body. I can't resist it. I know my hidden looks can be deceiving. You know how last week I was talking about reading the True Blood books from the? 

Ohh yes, it's happening again. Is there a style scars? 

Yeah, it's kind of happening. It's happening again. I know my hidden looks can be deceiving, but how obvious should a girl be? I was taken by the early conversation piece and now I and I really like the way that he respects me. Well, that's that's that's. That's good. That's important. Waiting patiently for him to come and. 

Hmm. 

Yes, yes. 

Get it? I wonder if he knows that he can say it. And I'm with it like. I I understand I'm picking up what they putting down. I knew I had my mind made up from the very beginning. Cause catch this opportunity. So you and me could feel it. Cause if you're ready for me, boy, you better push the button and let me know before I get the wrong idea and go. You're gonna miss the freak that I control. And it goes on and. On and on and on. 

Right. 

And I actually think that the guy can't take a hint. 

Well, I'm confused. 

Ohh no, they get eventually. He does take the hint. It takes a long time for him to get the hints and he's like he came over and asked me if I wanted to get with him. It's. 

Hmm. 

Like. Oh, for God sake. So like, it's pretty obvious from like 2 verses ago. And then they just go on saying if you're ready, push the button, you're gonna miss the freak that I control and that's. Yeah, I mean it's it's no, it's not like it's, you know, a a Nobel Prize winning, you know, like it's you wouldn't you wouldn't find. What's his name? Bloody Harold Pinter. It's not a it's not. It's not a Harold Pinter masterpiece or anything like that. He's a literary genius. But still number one in the. 

OK. 

He's not gonna win the literature prize, no. Pinto. No, no. But you know #1. Let's come and move on to an album release. Now. I'm getting bored. 

Yeah, it's probably a really good idea, yes. 

Those were the days, my friend. We thought that never ends forever. End the day we deliver. With Kim, we'd fight. 

No, like I don't. I don't like this album for Dolly. I have to be honest. But she she did. Those were the days. Well, it's just it's a bit too retirement village and I'm not ready to see Dolly in that light. I don't want her retiring. 

What? 

Really. 

She. 

Reinterpreted folk and pop classics from the 60s and 70s. There are a lot of guest artists as. Well on there. 

Yes, and a voice, I mean, a voice is stunning. But that that particular song just screams retirement. 

Norah Jones. Kris Kristofferson, Alison Krauss, Keith Urban. Judy Collins. 

Yes. Yeah. 

Highlighted her deep love of folk protest and storytelling music from her formative years and showed her versatility. 

Yeah, she cause she did it, Bob. She did blowing in the wind. That was good. That was a great cover. 

Hmm. 

I thought you're about to play it. You don't. You're not gonna play it. 

I don't. I might get it later. I think you should. OK. 

Crimson and Clover. Hmm. That was on a cassette that my parents owned. And I remember I used to play it on the cassette deck and the the batteries ran out and it was like. Just remember that because the batteries. 

Right. So that's how you. So that's how you remember the song as the batteries fading. Ohh Well Dolly will inspire you to remember it in a whole new different way with those were the days released on. I don't know sometimes like out on Dino music. Cool. Nice one shaggy. Oh, no, that's Scooby Doo. Dino was a dinosaur. That was also a dog. 

Yes. Out now on Dino music. The. 

That doesn't make any sense. Go to the movies new number one at the US box office. I've thoroughly enjoyed. This film, the fog. 

Oh. 

I got something on my radar. It looks like a fog bank and it's moving straight toward us. 

Kind of fog moves against the wind. 

So this is. 

Mr here. What's wrong? 

They keep seeing horrible things happening. 

Come on. What's? 

Going on. 

Yeah. 

What's happening? Kill them. Get off the. 

Island why? Just go. 

Somebody out here? 

I feel like something's about. Something was about to happen or something, but I feel like that trailer is very reminiscent to being in a. Dog because it's quite confusing. It's not much of a trailer that doesn't really translate, so I like this movie, but as a John Carpenter fan. 

Hmm. 

Don't. I don't like fob. Have you seen the original cause? This is a remake. 

I love the like John Carpenter. Like one of my favourite directors. The thing of course. You know, they live some great movies and the fog was one of his escape from New York. Another one excellent movie. But the fog was one of. 

Hmm. 

Films and I liked the original from the 80s a lot better, but I think they were trying very much to bring this into like the more contemporary thing cause it had like Maggie Grace from lost and Selma Blair in it as well. And you know there there was that that more I guess that just to target it. The the team kind of audience I. 

The Y2K audience. 

Guess a little. So it's about a a town off the coast of Oregon, and this fog rolls in and it brings all these vengeful spirits of said. Others who were betrayed and killed on the coast of that town 100 years earlier and they seek revenge on the descendants in the town of the townspeople that were responsible for their deaths and it, like there was a lot of remates happening at the time, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Amityville Horror. So they tried to introduce this concept, but I think they just took a little bit of it. Like Carpenter has a certain atmosphere. With all his films, that makes his films. 

Hmm. 

So wonderful. And they all have a similar sort of vibe to them. That's what I love about Carpenter, but this. This one kind of. 

This one didn't live up to the height the weak scares, flat performances, and lack of suspense compared with the original Rotten Tomatoes score of around 4%. One of the worst reviewed horror remakes of the decade. 

Well, it didn't look like a. Carpenter movie hmm. Hmm. And I liked it. 

But it still grossed. 46,000,000 worldwide against a budget of 18,000,000, so fairly successful. 

Yeah, yeah. I mean I I I feel like horror, horror doesn't doesn't necessarily always review well anyway, especially with critics. 

But fans of the fans of the OG were just not. Happy and John Carpenter himself, he was credited as a producer, but later distanced himself, saying that he had. 

There's like, no. 

And really that involved it. 

That's the difference. It was just it was very disposable. It was really disposable, whereas like the original, is just so enduring and awesome because it's John Carpenter and it's just great. Now we've got some movie news as well. Now, last week we talked about the Ardman animation film Wallace and Gromit, the curse of the Were-rabbit. 

Just put my name on it. 

Yes. 

Limits. 

And and it had only come out sort of last week and and achieved so much success. It was really wonderful for them, a huge victory and they should have been celebrating. But on the 10th of October. Their warehouse in Bristol in England burned down. So and and that's terrible because that had all the props, the sets, the models, the archives and some of their recent stuff like chicken run and and films like that. 

Hmm. 

6:00 this morning, a day Ardman was meant to be celebrating its latest movie, top of the US box office. But in Bristol, much of the company's entire archive was going up in flames. 

So how much have you? 

Lost. 

Apart from what you see here and half a dozen other sets that are out on display, everything. So that goes right back to, you know, the 70s with moth right through to the everything that we saved off chicken run the first feature film. 

Anything salvageable? No. 

That's so sad. It's they were devastating. You know, all of that history. I mean, I think it it reminds me of when we went to the National Museum recently and saw the Mr Squiggle exhibit and how it had, like, the entire. 

Hmm. 

Puppet collection from Mr Squiggle's creator and that that's the kind of thing so they had, like all the early Wallace and Gromit sets, like those whole beautiful claymation sets that were so expertly crafted and sculpted, and all the figures and the all of that stuff is gone. Just all gone. 

Models set original artwork. And yeah, happened a day after the debut of Wallace and Gromit, Curse of the Ware Rabbit, which was #1 in America at the time. The sets from that were elsewhere, so they weren't destroyed in the fire, but very much. And the co-founder said very cruel irony is they're celebrating their biggest. 

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. 

Says they also suffered their biggest loss. 

Yeah. And it was nothing nefarious or anything. It was just a simple electrical fault that just caused the whole thing to go up, which is devastating. Yeah. Devastating. But yeah, I mean, they, they, they still went on to make. 

Yeah. 

Like movies like flushed away and whatnot. So they're still, they're still up there. They're still making them art and animation in duels, even if their warehouse did burn to the ground 20 years ago. 

We had a reality TV show premiere on the 13th of October. 

If it's Thursday night, it all starts at 9. The first family of hip hop are back with the Caesars in the air runs. Out. I'm Michael Jackson. 

Do I wanna be Michael? 

One runs a tight ship. 

They said they like. 

You snooping? Who's snooping? 

Snoopy that we lost. Feet off of the island where we eat. 

Actually it's not that type runs house season premiere Thursday, June 15th at 9:30, part of the new Thursday night. 

Ohh, the new Thursday night on MTV's Reverend Run from Run DMC, whose house runs house. 

That's I I was gonna say because we had Foxtel at that stage. Yeah. And I remember the ads, the who's house runs house, but I don't think I ever watched the show. And I don't know why I didn't watch it because it was actually. 

I watched a little. Bit of it, it was annoying. Really good was loud. It was loud. It was very much in the IT was. It was very similar to the OSBOURNES in a lot of ways. I think it was. 

Hmm. 

Trying to show Reverend Run as a more family friendly sort of guy, a bit of a hip hop legend, of course that he is. And this is after jam Master Jay has been shot and killed. Yes as well. 

But we didn't we. Didn't know what that was all about. I. 

No, no. So so, yeah, well, yes. But it introduced his kids. His kids were all involved. Was it Vanessa? 

Mean did we still shook? One of the most popular reality shows for MTV of the mid 2000s ran for six seasons. It was wildly successful. 

Hmm. Hmm. And so his kids, Vanessa, Angela, JoJo Diggy. And Russy were all there in the public eye, having a digital footprint before there was even a thing. 

Which was good for them cause a lot of them went on into careers in fashion and music in the media, so it worked well. 

Yeah, they were. He set him up. He set him up and he he had those things. Like at the end of he man and the masters of the universe where? There be. Like a moral to the story, little inspirational reflections delivered from the bathtub while he was while he was, he was typing away on his BlackBerry. Yeah, which kind of bookended the yeah, they were. 

Yes. Something something in. It for all of us, yeah. Oh, OK, soft tub reflections. Lots of advice. I'm good on you. Oh, Blackberries were popular back then, weren't they? Do they even exist? 

Now I I don't know. 

They had, like the full keypads, remember I? 

I think I think you could still get. 

I always thought you were a big shot. If you had a BlackBerry like a business business person, yes. 

Yeah. Well, Reverend run like Allah. Reverend, run. Just using it in the bathtub. 

It's business person. Yeah, it doesn't matter if I'm drop it. I'll just get a new one. It's fine. No problem. 

Yeah, it's well, you get a tiny electrical shock. It's better than a toaster, though. Yes. Yeah. 

Yes, parenting sibling dynamics, faith in family life with the themes. And then there were spin offs, including Daddy's. 

All of that stuff, yeah. 

Girls with their daughters. So just. 

Yeah, yeah. 

You know launched there. 

Yeah, everyone loved it. Didn't name. 

Their charisma people did. They loved it because it. Was warm and funny and authentic. Nick, it wasn't groundbreaking, but it was really popular and very did very well for MTV. It's quite wholesome. 

There was an element of element of reality TV meets Cosby show to it. I think that's what I think endeared it to people. Feel good. Yeah. Hip hop and family life. Who would have thunk? 

Hmm. 

Feel good, I think is what it's often described as, yes. 

It. It's that time. Already a relatively quick one this week it's hatches, matches, and dispatches. Let's just get straight into it. I think this is my favourite. Hatches, matches and dispatch of clue. Ever. Yes, a celebrity who was born that said this. 

Is it? 

The. 

The translation I can feel that my mother is very passionate about her work because I sense she's really enthusiastic. 

Yes. Can you translate that for us? I can tell she's passionate because I can sense her enthusiasm. 

Yeah. Great. Yeah, it's that's straight from Danish. Danish. There's a couple of hints for you. Any ideas? Well, you know, already. If you said Prince Christian Valdemar Henry John. 

Hmm. I know. 

You'd be. Born on the 15th of October 2005 in Copenhagen, Denmark, he is the eldest son. Of Crown Prince Frederick and our Crown Prince, Princess Mary. That's right. 

Now Mary, our Australian Princess, we've got a real one, but a real Australian Princess. 

First, born second in line to the Danish throne after his dad. 

Likely to become King one day, continuing one of the oldest monarchies in the world. 

Yes. I don't think that they do much though. 

It was the first time in 60 years that Denmark had a direct male heir in two successive generations. It was a big deal when he. 

Hmm. 

Popped out. 

Yes, Danish and Australian. 

Strange, an Australian celebrated international. Billy, who's one of ours? He was christened in January of two. 1006. 

Ohh, you can tell he's one of ours. By his accent. 

Yeah, mate. Yeah, mate, there's your mate. Godparents include Crown Prince. Hakon of Norway and Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden. Yeah, he went. Primary school in Copenhagen boarding school. They pulled him out of a school because there was a toxic culture, apparently, and somewhere else. 

I mean, yeah, sorry. I meant yeah. At the boarding school. That's a shame. 

I don't know where he was. He he speaks English fluently. 

They didn't there, no. 

But he couldn't find anything in. Couldn't. Oh, no. Look, he's very popular. He's very popular in Denmark. Public. The public are very interested in him. 

Is he marry? 

And he's quite. 

I don't think. 

I don't think he does much media though. I mean, I think he's a. 

Clean cuts down to earth and approachable. Sorry. 

A Prince, a Prince of the people? Yes. 

Prince of the People talks him while he's getting his morning coffee. He reflects his parents modern star. 

Hmm. 

Well. 

Yeah, and it was. It had a big event in in his 18th. Birthday a couple of years. 

That was 2023, yeah. 

Ago, it's celebrated at a palace and lots of Royals. 

Christiansborg Christiansborg palace. That's where it was. 

Lots of other Royals came and he gave a speech which was apparently very well received. 

Yeah. 

They had jousting and gladiatorial combat and a few beheadings and you know, just like a good old, like a mediaeval fair. Yeah, well, they didn't have. 

It's not yet. Perfect, since you once for an 18th. Wonderful. Any of that? He's not yet full time role. Well, but he does go with mum and Dad to key state events and he represents the new generation of the Danish. Monarchy. 

Got too much. He's only 20. Give him a break. Let him still enjoy. You know this Prince would while he's young. 

But we like him. He's a down to earth, down to earth. Prince. Happy birthday, mate. 

Well the the. 

Yeah. Happy birthday, Christian valdemar. Henry. Come on. That's all we've got time for for this evening this morning. This afternoon. Tonight. Whenever you're listening to it, it is probably for the best. It's been a long a long weekend of of doing other things aside from recording. So we're actually lucky to cram this one in and I can see you over there looking tired. 

OK, probably for the best. 

Hmm. 

This your ramble. 

Is that a yawn? Gee. Oh, I've got my rambled pants on. I'm just trying to close out the show. 

Pants bit this is where you start rambling. I know, but you're stuck. Here you go. What? Are we got? Here we go. I can. I can feel it. 

What? 

My mother is very passionate about him because I sense she's really enthusiastic. Yes, what have we got next? So I don't, I don't freaking. 

Stop what? 

Know got no idea. 

Alright. Well, that's how enthusiastic I feel that my yeah, I feel that my co-host is very passionate about her work. He hasn't. 

It's the fun just turn up and see what happens. You can send some really enthusiastic. 

Look, we just appreciate your enthusiasm for it. We really do. It means the absolute world to us and you can come over and say hello if you like on the on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, search for t -, 20 podcast. I'll see if I can get some video of Mel yawning as I speak on there as well. Yeah. 

Try to hold it in as I told you, you're about to go. To the rent. 

Me too, but I just can't. Thanks very much and we'll see you next week. See ya. 

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