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The year is 2005... Anakin turns to the dark side, YouTube makes its debut and we’re all couch-jumping for Maria, McDreamy and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo…
T minus 20, rewind to this week in history 20 years ago with Joe and Mel.
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Summer programming: best bits of 2005 vol 4
🐶 Who’s a cloned boy? Snuppy the Afghan hound becomes the world’s first cloned dog, born after 1,000 embryos, 123 surrogates and more ethical debates than a philosophy major on Red Bull.
🎤 Mariah's not-so-comeback. The Emancipation of Mimi drops and Mariah Carey reminds us she never left — she just needed a minute, some stiletto cardio and 14 guest producers. We Belong Together = world domination.
🚋 Tram Boy’s joyride. A 14-year-old Melbourne teen hijacked a Yarra Tram and drove it like a seasoned pro—manual track switches, passenger pickups, even PA announcements. His smooth run ended in a high-drama arrest and he became an instant folk hero.
🧢 Jay-Z drops luxury time bombs. Hov teamed up with Audemars Piguet to launch his own Royal Oak watch line with only 100 made. If you snagged one in 2005, it came with a preloaded iPod and a truckload of clout. Today? You’re sitting on six figures, easy.
Tatts all folks! Tattoos from the early 2000s are making a comeback and we're wondering if they ever went out of style! 📣 B-A-N-A-N-A-S.Gwen Stefani clapped back at Courtney Love with a cheerleader chant for the ages. Hollaback Girl hit the charts and took over high school halls everywhere. You couldn’t escape it — not in gym class, not at prom and definitely not on your Motorola RAZR ringtone.
⏳ Flashback within a flashback... within a 'best of' episode! T minus 20 gets meta as we throw back to a time when we were babies on the radio with none other than the man who inspired the character of Kramer from the hit show Seinfeld.
📺 Logies, lies and live TV glitches. The 2005 Logies were the chaos we deserved. Rove won everything (again), Chris Hemsworth got his moment and Channel Nine lost the broadcast right before announcing the Gold Logie winner. Also, shout-out to the whitegoods prize pack from voting - nothing says Aussie TV like a blender with your ballot.
🐕 And do kids even get chased by dogs anymore? We tackle the big questions when we open up the boom box.
Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.
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The year is 2005. Anakin turns to the Dark side, YouTube debuts, and we couch jump for Mariah Mcdreamy and a girl with the Dragon Tattoo t -, 20 rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel.
2006.
20. B -, 20. Do you see where this is?
It's an ice breaker. Don't judge me.
Up this is bananas. My question is who approved that? Going not really.
Ohh Summer, love is like no other love according to the. Group. I think it was sherbet. Was it one of those groups? Welcome to T -? 20. The podcast that usually rewinds to this week in history 20 years ago. But if you're joining us for the first time, you've got us right in the middle of summer programming. So we're rewinding to the time where we re.
Bring.
Round to the time, that was exactly 20 years ago earlier this year with your host Joe and Mel. Hello, Mel.
Hello. Yeah, so best bits of 2005. What was happening back in 2005, we're revisiting some of those bits, news, music, pop culture, that kind of stuff. So welcome welcome.
Yes, that we recorded in 2025. The beast, yeah.
So where are we? We're. Kind of sort of mid mid January.
First, sort of fortnight of January somewhere around there.
How? How are the year new? Year's resolutions holding up over your end.
Well, I I guess I I didn't. I don't really have any this year. I haven't really made any, but I did last year. Completed my New Year's resolution, which is very exciting and it was just it was the the boring. I would lose weight and I did and I'm really happy with that and I survived Christmas barely, but I'm finding it, you know, the scales are starting to creep back up again, so I probably need to get myself in check and make some kind of resolution to maintain.
Yes.
Well, I've come across. An alternative what to New Year's resolutions? Well, not really an alternative. It's more around the subject matter of your your resolution, and I think I think this is I think this is great and it comes from someone called Songs of Sam.
Is it more? Is it sustainable? Is it? Yeah. OK.
Bernath and songs of Sarah says every time I ask people if they do a New Year's. Resolution. It's all. Like ooh, I don't like making them because they fail. Ohh, I can't keep up.
Yeah.
With that. Umm.
Yeah, I get it.
And then songs of Sarah tells them about their New Year's resolution, which is pasta quest eating as many different pasta. Shapes as possible in the space of the year.
That's a great.
They also did one called Fruit Adventures every time they saw a fruit they hadn't eaten before. They'd get one and eat it and read the Wikipedia article about it. And it's just, you can make fun ones, and I think we forget.
Yeah.
That I think we're always so serious. And it's always, you know, be more responsible, don't eat crappy food.
Yes. You can set yourself a quest, yes, as your New Year's resolution.
I like this.
Every possible shape of pasta, so they put it out there into the world and other people shared some more obscure.
Yeah.
Ideas that they'd have.
So it's like by by this time next year I will have. Sampled every single type of pasta there.
Is someone else did a sneeze count that was their New Year's resolution to count how many times?
Ohh.
They sneezed. That's. Absurd. And in a year they sneezed 1072 times, so they kept their their resolution.
Really. Yeah. Well, I guess if you do it in triplets and you do it, you know, maybe once to twice a day that. Kind of makes sense, right?
Another one was to be Cosier, so they got a new bed and rearranged.
Their room? That's a great.
Resolution.
Eating more Pickles.
Yeah, well, there's always room for Pickles. Pickles. I'm a big fan of Pickles. I think as I get old and bitter, I like unsubscribing is a great one.
Unsubscribing. I'm subscribing from marketing emails.
Yeah, cool.
What else? Enter every free giveaway that. They could find.
Ohh that's that's too much work.
Spending more time in. The hammock. Yeah, I could get amongst that.
Ah, hammocks are overrated. I think they're more once the novelty of being in a hammock.
And two.
Wears off. This person had too. I like these. Hmm. Cook with more butter and wink. More. Wow, cook with.
More well, and maybe the winking is just like, you know, the the nervous tick that you've established from.
Butter.
I don't know. Cooking with so much butter. Like maybe it's like your eyelids are are getting subcutaneous fat that's dragging them down. That's causing you to.
Hmm.
Ohh come on now, don't ruin us.
Well, it's just too you can't. You gotta be careful with how much butter you cook with. Anyway, all of that aside, a few things to to go back on this episode. Remember the cloning dogs. Where it turns out Barbra Streisand was an expert on on cloning dogs. Who you Mariah Carey makes a massive comeback, and A and a favourite story of yours, tram boy.
Ohh yeah, she was one of the ojos. Oh tram boy. Tram boy, that was amazing. You need to find tram boy.
Yeah. Not all heroes wear capes and tramp boy is is living testament to that. Yes, he made a watch, the expensive watch.
Jay-Z had a watch. Early 2000s, inking, tattoos, Y2K tattoo designs were making a comeback.
Ohh. From the early 2000s. Yes.
What else? Ah, dogs. We talk about dogs, not just about cloning dogs, but just.
Yeah, we talk a lot about dogs, but being chased by them.
General dogs in the street doesn't happen anymore.
The logies. And we're gonna do a flashback of a time where I flashback or we both flashback to a flashback of when we were very young on the radio and we had a celebrity guest. So you can hear all of that and more right now, Snoopy.
Ah yes.
I'm talking about Snoopy. Who is snoopy? I'm glad you asked. He's the world's first cloned dog. He was announced. He wasn't just announced. It's like, hey, Snoopy, the world's first cloned dog. People like what? Why are you announcing that? Ohh. Because we have one. We have one. Is it was an Afghan. Beautiful, majestic dogs, the Afghans.
Afternoon.
And Snoopy, I think is short for Seoul National University puppy, yes.
Cause the cloning team. Were based at Seoul National University in South Korea.
So yes, yes, yes.
They used a somatic cell nuclear transfer, which was the same as what they used to clone Dolly the sheep in 19. 96 yes. They took DNA from the skin cell of a male Afghan hound and it was inserted into a donor egg with its own DNA removed after fusion and stimulation, the embryo is implanted into a surrogate mother. However, it took over 1000 embryos and 123 surrogate mothers. To get to 1 successful pup.
That's that's not like if if I was a gambling man, probably wouldn't put money on that Afghan ever being born. But they I think they only had, like, 3 pregnancies out of all of that as well. And one live dog, which was Snoopy, who was born on the 24th of April 2000.
Yes.
And five, the brilliant. Work reported here. Demonstrates yet again that reproductive cloning. Is inefficient and unsafe. There is nothing in nuclear transfer that involves reproduction from making any member of our family, pets or any other member. Wouldn't it be a marvellous thing that our best friends would be the first beneficiaries? Of stem cell medicine. And in learning whether it's safe and effective in our companions, we may also know whether it's safe and effective for our loved ones.
Ohh, that's a bit scary. So the the cloning team was led by Doctor Huang Wu Sook, who were based at the Seoul National University. But that guy talking there was Professor Gerald Schatten. From the University of Pittsburgh, and he kind of shut and on the whole thing. Well, well, well. I mean, the facts speak for themselves. They it shattered on itself because it like, like we said before, over 1000 embryos, all those mothers, nothing really happened. But it was important. And he was saying that, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could eventually do this to get stem cells?
Unfortunate offer. He did didn't like.
For us, when we're sick, you know, and we start with our pets, but then move that on to humans.
And it was a big deal because the of the complexity of canine reproduction so time. Being ovulation and all the things is apparently quite difficult, which is why it took so many embryos and surrogates.
Not out in the freaking wild. If you see what happened when there's a. If you have an undie sex female dog in your street, that's that's chaos for a significant amount of time.
So nobody's birth was seen as a landmark in cloning in genetics, raising hopes, as we heard from medical research. Protecting endangered species and even pet cloning, and this was confirmed as authentic and it was legit. However, the same research team, especially Doctor Huang, was later disgraced for falsifying data in some separate stem cell research. So the reputation.
Hmm.
Took a pretty serious. We don't know what else he was up to.
Two. Well, I I I don't know. There's a lot of business. It's it's actually like a business thing now, isn't it? Like in this day and age.
We'll Fast forward to now. You can clone your dog for around 50 to 100,000.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can get it done. You can get it back up. Copy of your dog. Barbara. We talked about it, Babs. She cloned her dog Samantha twice.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yes.
Miss Violet or Samantha #2 and Miss Scarlet or Samantha #3?
At $100,000 a pop, you know well, The thing is, is you're not getting the same dog. It's not the same consciousness. It's a different dog.
And I. Think this is this? This is.
Different personality.
The thing that people don't understand.
Might look the same. But.
Barbara said that they were very different dogs and it did look the same, but different, different personalities.
Thanks for clarifying that, Barbra Streisand appreciate that. Yeah, she's legitimate. Yeah, absolutely.
She's not gonna lie. To us. Simon Cowell wants to clone his dogs, but they're. Not dead yet.
Ohh OK you don't have.
Like they had been over, hear him saying that.
To kill them first to clone them.
Do you? No, no. But he's waiting. He's. He's well, I think he put the DNA.
You stupid DNA. Aside. Ohh sorry. Set it aside. Right? It's like saying.
Yeah, you, I don't I. Don't think you'd wanna clone your dog while the other dog still there? That would be awkward because one day this a dog turns up at your house and you're like, oh, you.
They're alive. Yeah, that's good. That's a thing of horror films.
Look like me. That's odd.
It's like I am you. And you're like, what? Yes.
Wear the suit. Excuse me? And then and then the new dogs. Like, let's go take a. DNA test the old dog does.
Yes. And then Scooby Doo becomes Scooby, don't.
You don't wanna do that.
The 10th studio album from Mariah Carey, the emancipation of Mimi.
Is this? Is this the one where she's on a new record deal?
Ohh no, she left Tommy ages ago. You talk about Tommy Mottola.
Oh, is it? I don't know because remember, not really a Mariah Carey of Sushi and Nada.
There's all that stuff about. Well, he was. She was married to him and he was also the producer. And then they separated and remember then he. He signed up Jlo, and that's why Mario's.
Right, but isn't isn't this where she's on?
Like, I don't know her.
Her new $1,000,000 bill, the Big $1,000,000 bill.
But this is her comeback. This is her comeback. No, that was the charm bracelet one and that tanked and glitter tanked. So this is her comeback album. Although she said she was reintroduced, she said her eyes were. It's not a comeback. I'm reintroducing myself.
Ah.
Ohh. Like.
Hi, I'm Mimi.
Reintroduce right.
The emancipation of Mimi and it. Was a nod to her freedom from industry controls.
Always every time, he says. You say, Mimi, I think of the chick from the Duke queries there that wore too.
Drew Carey show too much.
Much makeup.
OK.
Hmm. But anyway.
Smallest colour. Finally getting to make the music that she wanted and had probably what is one of her biggest songs on it. We belong together.
Baby.
What are you doing?
Vibing to move.
It's a good song. It's a solid song. It's got.
Uh. Some Richards production on it, doesn't it. It's got layers upon layers in it.
Does it does?
Stick sick under the big pot puree year.
It's thick, but it's clean. It's clean, like it's not like it's. There's no popularity there. It's not.
Killing it up to your end.
Trying to mask. Anything it's trying to it's trying to enhance and bring things out.
Mariah. Mariah reintroduced I am. I am surprised that that is one of her biggest songs when you think back to 90s.
In both the performer and the audience.
Mariah, I thought.
90s Mariah, which you see the big high notes. Cracked glass. Yeah.
That was her best word. Yeah, like emotions. And, you know, all that stuff in the 90s.
Yeah.
But that one that became. A really big song for her.
Yeah, I it's gotta be. All I want for Christmas as you. Now though, though like I mean.
Yeah, which is a shame. It's a shame.
I don't think she gives as long as she's getting paid. I think she'd be pretty happy about.
Sure.
That, and she'd been written off, so after glitter and charm bracelet, the media basically wrote her off and 2005. It was her coming back and it was a.
Big Year for her, but I mean, she's very eccentric, isn't she?
That's what I love about her. She's just 0F.
Right.
I really like that about her. I love just go and watch Mariah. I could watch Mariah interviews all day. She turned up to a radio station and they were saying.
No, it doesn't care.
Being. Yeah, a little bit delayed with our. Interview from Mariah. Because and she was sitting there, she was part of the conversation. They weren't. Talking behind her. Back she made her crew come in and set up lighting, especially for her. She's on the radio, mind you. She's not on. TV I think they.
Hmm, they're taking photos and stuff.
Were also filming. Brought in special lighting for her because she doesn't like fluorescent lighting brought in special lighting that looked good and she had sunglasses on. They were delayed because she had to set up a light, but she didn't care. And then the DJ's are talking.
Different world.
About and she's. Like, do you wanna talk to me? I'm. I've.
Different world. This is these are my terms and conditions. Well, yeah.
Got my lighting. I love that. I love that about her and her big comeback as well. She did that episode that very famous episode of Cribs in 2002, and that that episode then saw a really big. Surgeons. In 2005, so they know that the actual episode of Cribs with Mariah they then started playing it again, because Mariah was just so big in 2005. Yeah. And they actually then critiqued it. So they had Mariah critiquing her episode as well as other celebrities.
Cribs. Oh. Their own episode. So like they're they're always go up to the bedroom and they're like this where the magic happens. Umm, did she do that?
Where the magic happens. I don't think she did, no.
Now she's too eccentric for that. The magic happens everywhere where Mariah is.
So I can stand here, look at New York, things of that nature. All the while in my. 4 inch heels and black on. I'm joking around, people. Hello. I don't really ride the Stairmaster in my high heels, but I would.
She's.
Drunk. I love that. I don't really. But I would.
She is off her face. But I would she's drunk.
I love Mariah. I think she's great.
I hope so. Ohh. I just hope that. She's got, you know. Prescription medication and all of that, I hope she's surrounded by. Good people because she yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a worry. That is, I'm worried.
Back to the album's emancipation amendments mix of.
OK. Yes.
R&B. Hip. Hop, pop and some signature ballads produced by Jermaine Dupree, The Neptunes Kanye West the Dream.
Uh-huh.
Well, everyone wanted to work with Kanye. Not so. Much now.
No.
Snoop Dogg guessed it on there. Nelly twister.
Did she do?
So with Busta Rhymes as well, I think.
Mariah Carey and.
The feel like. There was a Busta Rhymes one, yeah.
I think you might be right.
You give it to me, I'll give it to you. Give as long as you want. You know I got it.
I almost actually, when you were looking that up, I was like. Because you're a bit too slow and I was getting impatient, so I was. Thinking about the phones like baby, if you give. It to me. Now let's move over to something a little bit more lighthearted a crime, but.
I think it's.
An endearing crime.
I think it's a crime of passion.
I.
Think it's a lovely crime to be.
Think it's a crime of passion? It's all about a yes, I do too. It's all about a 14 year old Melbourne schoolboy and his love of trams.
Honest, I don't. I endorse this crime. Can I say that? Can I endorse the crime? It's a beautiful. Story he makes headlines on the 18th of April after stealing a tram, driving it along an actual passenger route like he was an official operator. He wasn't. He wasn't specifically. Some reports said he was wearing a Yarra trams uniform, but it later came out. He was wearing very similar clothing.
Hmm.
So, you know, he went and bought it.
Cosplay cosplay.
Off.
From Kmart, maybe bought some high VIS from Kmart, hopped into an unattended tram at a depot in South.
Yes.
Robin drove it and I must say safely and competently along Route 86.
To teenage tramp, fanatic has made a mockery of security. He crisscrossed the city, picking up passengers from South Bank to Saint Kilda police, eventually stopping the stolen tram in Hawthorne.
Two passengers. It seemed like any other ride.
There's good driver drove just like any other normal tram driver.
But allegedly at the controls of this tram was a 15 year old with a. One track mind.
The young lad certainly indicated that he does want to be a tram driver and look he has a a. An obsession with trams.
Lots of opportunities for puns. A1 Track mind had to bring that in, didn't they? No, that was in the news report. Was like, yes, that's great. Great reporting. He was a true pro. He made announcements over the PA. He followed traffic signals. He drove around the network for 40 minutes. He manually changed the tracks where you kind of get out and move the tracks.
I'm all very good. Very good. Yeah. All right.
Yes.
Ground crossed busy intersections stopped pick up passengers.
Switch here.
And even over a shot, one of the stops and stopped in reverse and I think regular tram drivers probably just keep going. I think he actually had really good customer service.
And then captured. Rivers. It was all going so well. It was all going so well until an inspector noticed that he was alone in the cabin and he thought.
It. Until it wasn't.
Geez, that guy seems a little bit young. Very young looking driver, 48.
14 years old, 14.
14 So he was arrested? Yeah. Now he got to queue 15 kilometres from where he he stole the tram and police. The police had to actually shut the electricity off to stop the tram, and then the the the there was a motorist there that said there was actually a pretty brutal.
You say went around.
The rest, because all the cops. Descended upon the Tran and drew their guns and then stormed, stormed the tram. Yeah, at the intersection of Glenferrie Road and Wellington St in Kew, yes.
Ah. Poor guy.
Oh no. Well, apparently the the passengers protested when he was being handcuffed and pushed against a seat. They were cheering for him were fishing. They were like, yeah, we like, but great customer service. He was really good at changing the tracks. He was on time. More on time than the ones we usually catch. So leave him alone. Let him back in the.
Very. Got to all their stops.
Great announcements.
In the front, let's keep going. We're on time.
Absolutely you wish you could drive a tram like that.
Gotta get some work.
Sparked a national press conference, the Deputy chief executive of Yarra Trams at the time, Dennis Cliche.
So.
Unfortunate, isn't it? I don't know.
He he spoke.
Boldly of of the efforts, he said that the boy must have studied tram drivers to be able to operate the vehicle, which usually takes around 5 weeks of training.
Yeah, that's about 50 tonnes of steel powered by electricity and stuff. It's.
Fine, you're on.
A track what? What could possibly go wrong?
Yeah. Well, merman have driven around Melbourne and if you're not used to trams and you go and then you get into Melbourne and you're and you're. Oh oh, I'm driving in the middle of a tram track. That's the.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's terrifying. It's very scary and intimidating first time around. Yeah, yeah. But the boy was a big trim enthusiast. He actually was a high functioning autistic kid.
They're weird rules, too. They're not. They're not logical rules.
Yes.
Yes, that was confirmed.
And.
Bit later on wasn't.
Yeah. And he that was his special interest. And you know when when you've got ASD and you've got a special interest, you are following that interest with laser focus. You are zeroed in. So he knew that tram inside.
M.
Yes.
Made and out and I know I think I would trust him over a lot of other tram drivers that have probably been driving for many years just because of his.
Yes, he probably had a had enough of the the general public, whereas tram boy he'd studied the operations. He'd visited depots, he knew the schedules, the procedures, the control panels, just from observing them and and memorising how. It all worked.
While he'll front the children's court, he could still become a real tram driver as long as he stays on the straight and narrow and off this straight and narrow.
Do you do work experience? Could be bothered for that.
That's another alternative form, yes.
He's a Norse lead. He's a God.
Like.
I think his obsession just. Got the better of him.
I think the cops kind of took a bit of a showing to him, actually. Yeah. Yeah. And of course it.
Yeah, they're like this. Kids Got Talent. And when doesn't an obsession get the better of you? It happens to. All of us or doesn't it?
Well, he just. He just made things better. For for the Melbourne. Tram system anyway, because there were security upgrades after that, including locking cabins and tracking vehicles more closely and supervising stuff, supervising staff, ladies and gentlemen. So they called him tram boy. That was his nickname. He became a bit of a folk hero.
Yep.
Yes.
Yep.
And they were really amazed.
He still is a hero. There's there's still discussion of him on Reddit. I jumped into Reddit and someone who was actually on the tram on that day had commented on this post on Reddit, had come back and said that that was the best trip that ever had because it was on time for once, tram.
This.
Frauds.
Yeah. Stay with me.
To the schedule and kept to the.
Well, I I actually wanted to do a bit of research and see if I could figure out where he is now, but they never named him. So he's just kind of, yeah. So he's just this urban legend that's forever known as.
No, because he was underage so.
They couldn't.
Tramp, I wonder if he's a tram driver now imagine that. Then you get on tram. Boys train.
I don't know The thing is. Is he had prize. He'd actually stolen a train as well at 1:00. Stage it's significant.
Yes, yes, I think he drove that really well, too. Asha ashan.
Now we're going to do these, even though we're still in the music segment and just move the fastest in the fashion in the music segment right now over to Mel with the latest in fashion for the music business in 2005.
Well, this time in 2005, Jay-Z wasn't just cocking it. He was literally putting his name on time itself.
Ohh.
Locking hits. I love what you're putting his name. On time itself? What?
Yes, he unveiled a line of limited edition watches. We see watchmaker.
Ohh OK, so you know how you know how a couple of weeks ago I said to you know you I've always struggled with pronunciations. I said the secret is just to commute. I've heard this pronounced correctly several times and still.
Right. Yes.
Yes.
You know it, yes.
Ohh.
You can't commit.
No order must be way. See what am I doing? I don't even know what I'm saying. Automat. Pig way. I mean, it's a very high fashion. Watch. Watch label. Very expensive, very class and. And so to to celebrate 10 years in the rap.
Yes. Very fashion.
I'm jazz Tees up with all my experience. The students lecturing watchmaker to drop the Shawn Carter Royal Oak Offshore. That sounds like somebody taking.
Say luxury.
Off the side of a boat.
It really does. Yeah, it really doesn't. It floats out to sea, yeah.
Yeah. Ohh, just gotta just gotta drop the Sean Carter Royal Oak offshore. I mean, you mean drop like release, you know? And but again, once again, wasn't your average watch though, and they did a bit of a pressing, I think this was one of the owners or the representatives of the marketing people from. All the people there.
So I made Jay for the first time in 2001, right? And he had already 14 other happier watches. So on the first time we met, he said one day we make a watch together and I say good luck.
With that, so I think in the year 2023-2024 like that, that will make no sense because Jay-Z is as famous as it gets and one of most powerful people in the world. An icon. And AP is is obviously a partner to to many athletes et cetera. But why? Why was this so challenging?
To watch the watch? Yeah, because if you go back there, you will never see at that time a luxury brand actually partnering with culture. And I convinced the management band to sell. And guys, hip hop is now going to work with the guys in the 20s. We have to go on that one. I feel it's the right move to make and Jay is the absolute perfect person to do it with.
Hip hop hip hop.
Yeah.
Did you hear that? Even the the guy that was interviewing the guy from? Yeah. Yeah. He heard him pronounce it, and he was smart because he just called him AP. He just went straight for the acronym. And that's what I should have done. That's what I should have done. Yeah.
Yeah.
I say for the action that's very smart, isn't it? But you could confuse that with. Associated Press. Don't be careful.
Yes, yes. OK.
The watch was known for its chunky design, octagonal bezel and luxury sports style. I think you call.
Hmm.
That lux sport there.
Yeah.
It had his signature. SC logo for Sean Carter laser etched on the. Aisle and engraved on the back was 10th anniversary and. Jay-Z signature. That's like when I got into. When I got into uni, I got a watch and got engraved on the.
Ohh yeah.
Back. Casio I don't even know what it was. It's like time force or something time force.
Seiko. Timex. Time Force Lee or something? That sounds like a been great. Sorry, that sounds. That sounds like, you know, Donald Trump's doing like space force to defend space once he works out about time travelling. Gonna. Well, it's time for us to defend.
Bentley. Like that.
It had a.
Wooden had a wooden face.
Yes.
Time for I was ahead of my time then. Yeah. And it had, like, I know it had something etched in the back, like maybe my name or something. Not Jay-Z name umm. Anyway, they only made 100.
No. Yeah, that's called a limited edition.
There were 50. 50 in stainless steel, 30IN rose gold and 20 in platinum, and at the time retailed between $20,000 and 100,000, depending on which one you got. I think Platinum was the most expensive $100,000 for a watch with someone else's bloody signature on. Why would you do that?
Yeah.
Yeah. It's a lot of money for a watch to be able to tell the time. Yeah. And I mean, that's all they do is tell the time you.
And the signature. Why would you want that? Cause then people are like, why?
Know. Hmm. Yeah.
Are you wearing Jay-Z watch? That's. Clearly his watch, it's got his name on it and he's engraved his name. Did you?
It well, it's like like, you know, didn't have a calculator on it. Cause Cassia has a calculator. Exactly.
Steal that often. No, did not have a calculator. Yeah, didn't have anything.
Exactly. It's really enough to make you wanna drop the Sean. Carter, while like offshore.
But I think guys.
Said it was one of the high and one of the earliest high fashion luxury #collabs between a hip hop artist and a watchmaker hip hop artist and a Swiss Swiss watch maker.
Yes. Yeah. Now our ipop. What happened then?
No, I think I.
Glitched.
Yeah, I think you really did.
But it was it was. This is. When we started to see artists not just buying the luxury stuff, but actually influencing it.
Wearing. And endorsing it.
Because they'd rap. About it a lot.
Hmm. Hmm.
But they wouldn't. They wouldn't back it up, but but Jay-Z. Backed it up his passing.
It's classy, you know. It's like it's like the guy was saying. It's like, this is what jazz was in the 20s and he's kind of right to a point. I mean, and this is a bit more than just wearing track suits and. Sand shoes. It's been more than.
Your ohh for us yes.
It's a lot more than, of course, ones, but it's also it's it's taking something that was like like his culture, like hip hop and all of that. That was born on the streets under very low socioeconomic circumstances. And putting it into a realm notes.
So that means.
A bit untouchable and I don't know that that's it's no longer for the people, it's for the the, the, the, the, the boogies.
Into the Blair sphere. That's true. Yes. Well, today they're collectors items and occasionally they come up for auction at Christies. So I jumped on to Christies. There was one for auction. I think it was last year and I didn't realise cause I didn't say this in the the the description, but I only figured it out when I went on to. Christie. 'S it came in a box and you had the.
Yes.
Watch and you had, like, a book with the story.
MHM.
So is. Like when you get a story with the product or like reading the history, don't like reading the history? When I'm making a recipe, I don't care about your your great, great grandmother and where they lived. I just want the recipe and the ingredients. Yeah. What? I buy a high end watch. I want the story. So there's a story. There's a watch it.
Yeah, a little bit of background.
Yes.
Also came with.
An iPod had.
Really.
An iPod with all of Jay-Z songs. On it. Isn't that nice? It's a fancy iPod, and it was in a wooden box. So you had the wooden box with the story and the watch.
Oh, that's cool. That's very cool.
Sin.
And the iPod and I think. I don't know. It auctioned at Christies, and I think it was close to 100,000. Dollars a couple of.
Years. That's crazy. Yeah, that could. That could end up being in a bargain basement bin if if lots of things come to light over the next few years.
Six figures.
This is true. So if we're if. We're in the. Market for a what's it called? An AP. I'm just going to go with AP. Just ship it.
And Sean Carter, Royal Oak Offshore, actually.
Give it a, give it a couple of. Years and the price price might.
Yeah.
Drop might find them on eBay.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe I do like the idea of unboxing stuff and then getting a book to go with a little story background information or in in the case of Icare interactive story. Ohh yeah. Yes, yes. And depending on if you get the pages mixed up, it's become a choose your own adventure. Midlife crisis is almost over like.
A.
Oh.
Because I think I'm about three 3/4 of the way through my life now as I first.
That's long gone.
Approach 50, but I just started thinking about aunties. I wouldn't mind getting another tattoo. Like I've got lots of tattoos. Yeah, I'm just like something to do. Get another tattoo. And I was thinking about ideas and stuff, which I don't particularly want to share. What my ideas, you know, ideas are.
Oh, you ready? You ready for a new one? I don't want anyone to steal them.
Here at the moment but. I I was kind of looking around and apparently for some time now, tattoos from the early 2000s in the late 90s are coming back into vogue.
Isn't ever getting those ones laser removed these days?
So.
Well, some people are and some are getting them covered up and some people are just embarking on a whole new journey. They've got a bit of a modern contemporary spin on them. Modern and contemporary, both being the same exact thing. But me not having any interest in world economy whatsoever, they have that spin on it. But but but.
Like, you know, lots of regrets.
It's like barbed wire.
Ohh, are we saying tribal coming back? Remember the tribal, the tribal across the bottom of the lower back tribal.
Tribal is making a massive comeback. Tribal law. But. Yeah, tribal more to fill up space and things like that. Either that or just like full blown tribe. Or like, I think I blame, like, wrestling for tribal tattoos, making it come back a little bit with like, the bloodline and stuff like that. Yes.
Ohh nice that a tribal filigree in between things. Yes, yes, starting Bali.
Yes indeed. Ohh. The tattoos in Bali are just amazing.
Feel like Bali? Bali is responsible for tribal and Roman numerals. That's a Bali thing, isn't it?
Yes, people, people getting their photographs and taking in those Bali tattoo shops look like ransom photos or something from.
What else? What else is early 2000? Ohh, Japanese, Japanese and Chinese symbols. I remember a young lady came up to me when I was driving the Black Thunder once and I gave her a loaf of bread and handed it over and she had a a Chinese or Japanese symbol inside and the inside of her wrist. And I thought that's amazing. I was so impressed.
Part of the Japanese characters, yeah. Yeah, they turn around. And say, like, what does it mean? And they're like it means.
And that was so.
Water. And then they go over to Japan and like what the you have the word water tattooed on your wrist.
Oh.
Brittany had an issue in the early 2000s. She got, I think it was a Chinese symbol and she thought it meant mysterious. But when translated, it actually meant strange.
Yes.
I remember that being a. Big news story about Brittany's Brittany's tattoo stars.
Well, look, I I think that's well, that's fitting now. I think she's grown into that tattoo. If I'm being honest.
I think she had that one room. Stars were big. Stars are big. I'm.
Were very big stars.
I'm guilty of some star tattoos, although I've got a lower back tattoo.
Were very, very big stars were very big.
Got all of the all of the. Classics glad I.
There. Yeah. You like to keep them. I like keeping them as well. I I know some people like to get them removed. I.
Kept them. I'm on trend on trend. People get embarrassed, but it's point in time point in time and you liked it at the time, and I think my first one, my first tattoo, there wasn't a lot of thought that went into it cause had to choose something off the wall. Was it the bikers cause the the the biker shop and yeah, you're only allowed to have something off the wall. And there wasn't a lot to choose from. So I was like ohh that looks alright.
Yeah, it's just a part of my life, yes. Ohh, really. Wow. OK, yeah, yeah. That looks great. I'll go with that.
Go with that. Yeah, sure.
Fair enough. Yes. Look, I think that that's that's good. You know, make good choices, as they say in life and.
They did a.
Good job. I was impressed. It was.
Stand by your choice. As I say, don't worry about making good choices. Just stand by the ones that you make and we stand by our tattoos. From that time, I think they're wonderful.
Good line work the line work.
Would be a good time.
You had the. They stuck the glad wrap over it and and it was always. I'd always get them in stupid spots. Where your.
Yes.
Pants would rub.
And you know what else? I don't wanna get stuck getting booming. I don't wanna be sort of like, but like you. You, you know, we didn't have numbing cream back in the day.
Your pants would rub on the tattoo. Do people use that? Now that song I have never, I have never used numbing cream. I've never even taken a pad.
Yeah, they use it a lot. A lot. You know, some people.
Ohh, I just lie there and take it.
Ohh yeah.
Yeah, like a champ. You sit like a rock as.
Yes.
Yes.
The the last artist. That tattooed you said? Yes, they do. They do all the numbing thing. I've even seen stories recently of people getting tattooed under anaesthetic, being put to sleep.
What's?
So that they can get it done quicker and so and you getting that well, it's dangerous is what it is.
That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. It is because, yeah, you don't know. You go too far and you get sick.
Yes, yes indeed, it's A and you can if you do. You tattoo a significant portion of your body in one go. You can end up getting. Pretty unwell from that extent.
Why the one? I got in Vegas that got infected.
Yeah, but that wasn't a significant portion of your body. That was just, as I said, make good choices or stand by them. At the very least. Yes, Steve.
No, but it got infected.
And you know.
It's alright, it's character building. It's a bit skewiff because of where it got. Infected. But you know.
But.
It's a story, and it was a point in time.
It is a story and it had an extra bit of some bonus features to go with it and also I mean this is the thing though they're saying these things are making come back by black flames, stars, all those things flying.
Yeah.
Flames when did flames go out? I thought flames.
Finds it. None of it ever went out of style as far as I was concerned. It's all still. I'm still trapped in that era.
Were always in.
I think the only difference is like we will try to get them in discrete areas and now everyone's like you know, it's like, yeah, we're getting barbed wires and. On my that's commitment.
On my face, no face is a thing now. And the even the cosmetic. Tattooing, where you get your eyebrows done and things like that. It it there's still, there's still something that. To me, we're a tattoo on your face. That's a big risk event, yeah.
I just wouldn't. Know I don't know what to get.
People are getting.
Freckles tattooed on their face? Well, that's.
It's a bit silly.
Freckles. Freckles weren't cool when I was young. I used to like cover mine in makeup, but apparently no. Now you.
Get freckles. Tattoos. That'd be a fun day out for the tattoo artist, wouldn't it? Just weird. Very strange. You connect the dots and you could spell something.
Tattooed on. Yeah, that'd be easy. Easy job.
Or So what? Early.
If you were going to get another tattoo and you had to choose an early 2000s one, what? Would you get and where would you get it?
Ohh, I'd baby boy. I do Barb wire for sure.
Ohh yeah, Barbara around the arm having in tribute to Pammy, that's a good idea.
Yeah. Yes, maybe barbed wire around the arm or maybe around the throat. Barbie around the neck. I think that look. Very good. That'll be very classy. Yeah. Yes. And I'll go and rent a 2 bedroom cabin at the local caravan park and set up a clandestine meth lab while on that. That's a good song. It's very interesting. Different, unusual. It had that football marching band thing going on, that whole cheerleader vibe, which I think for her was a bit of a retort to some comments that were made about.
Her. Yes. So debut solo album Love Angel music, baby. This track was the third single. From the album, Co wrote with Pharrell Williams.
You can hear you can hear that Neptunes. Kind of sound in there, can't you? Absolutely. Especially with just the beat and the and the and the the marching.
Yeah, the production underneath it. Yep.
Band stuff.
Yeah, he's clever. That's for.
Real, isn't he? I know, genius.
Good producer.
But I was going to make a song I'd. Make it with him.
Would you? Yeah, yeah.
Yes, it gained attention because like you say, allegedly, the song was a response.
Yeah.
Some was a response. To a comment made by 1 Courtney Love. Who had referred to Gwen as a cheerleader in a derogatory manner. It was an interview in 17 magazine in 2004 and Courtney Love said being famous is just like being in high school. But I'm not interested in being the cheerleader. I'm not interested in being Gwen Stefani. She's the cheerleader and I'm out in the smoker ****.
Hmm. That is.
Hush.
Like, why would you come after Gwen? Honestly.
Yeah. But for Gwen, like, is she, obviously. Got to her. You know, because she's gone out of her way to make this tune, which was actually rather successful. Just did a song. Yeah.
But she didn't say anything. She didn't say anything at the time. She never mentioned it. And I think we were all speculating, but nobody actually knew. And it was years later that Gwen referred to it in. I think it was an interview with Billboard, but many, many, many years later so.
Slides.
Yeah, that was also.
Part of the appeal of this. Who was?
Who is she?
Was.
Pull her back Girling out like. What's what's triggered this?
Yeah. And it was Courtney Love, which is kind of disappointing because maybe you, you know, you'd expect Courtney Love to be, you know.
Yeah.
Rude. There's many songs made about Courtney Love. There could be a whole playlist of songs about Courtney Love, allegedly allegedly, not even allegedly.
Well. Allegedly. Probably not. Yes.
So yeah, she was saying that in this in this interview, years later, she was being bullied by someone and being called a cheerleader. And she said that growing up, she wasn't cool. She was the opposite of that. And so she said to Pharrell, let's do a song. Let's do it a song. Let's let's turn it into an anthem about empowerment and self confidence. So she leaned in instead of denying that.
Hmm.
Leader, they were leaning hard and basically built the whole song around cheerleading. Teaching us all to spell being an an as one of the most iconic pop culture moments in the 2000s, we can all spell bananas. Thank you very much, Grant.
Ohh yes. Yeah, but I mean, except for the fact that people may have started to get confused between and bananas because she says this is bananas.
Well, the, the, the radio and it.
And the the version of the video clip on YouTube is interesting because obviously she doesn't say she's like, and so all the way through the video. It's gonna finger it's. Going.
It's quite annoying.
Because it's like it's usually saying like. This much this much.
But in the edited version it's my it's match.
And and so the visual when I hear that lyric is somebody like.
Bringing you their turds in their hands or on a plates in their.
Bringing cupped in no, just cupped in their hands, present to you. OK, this may this may. And I'm like, I'm like, it's really matter.
Type 2 or. What like? On the Bristol stool. Chart what type is the poo?
Certainly you're not though.
I'd like to think it was a perfectly formed one. Maybe three. Yeah, but the just the here it is. And I'm like, I don't. Well, what are you doing? That's weird. And then it's bananas. And it's like, oh, it's OK. It's only bananas. Doesn't matter.
Type. Like a sausage or snake? Yeah.
Hmm.
I don't know, but you said that Pharrell would be your music producer, and I'm trying to think of who I would get to produce mine. But I'm wondering who did Tony Kaye's in the. Is this the way to Amarillo?
Hmm.
Cause I'd be like. But yeah, that's me all over. That's my producer.
Ohh dear. Anyway so Gwen. Takes this dig and turns it into a stadium chant, which just stops the charts. Everybody loves it. She didn't name names, she just kind of let it sparkle and sat with it for years.
Hmm.
I'd love to hear.
What Courtney Love would have to say about it once she kind of figured it out, but we we didn't hear.
Didn't they names?
Hmm.
But I I mean, if I was a plantain, I'd be offended.
It was her first number one single in the US. It was also notable for being the first digital download to sell over 1,000,000. Copies in the US.
Really.
Tops the charts over here in Australia, the UK, Canada.
Yeah.
And I love the memes about it that again, these memes have been out for years, but I just love it. And and people are saying if only Gwen Stefani had chosen to spell out definitely or necessary, that would have been so much more helpful because we got bananas, but ours is fine.
BANANAS.
Well, some of these words that trip us up in everyday life, that would be so much more helpful.
I'm still trying to try to put it into context like the you're at. The doctor's like, Miss Joe. I'd just like to tell you that your. Your your stool sample came back. They're very high level of potassium in it. So in short, this is bananas.
Oh, you put in. A sample. When we worked on the radio, we were fortunate enough to have. Not Cramer, the actor.
Michael Richards. No, no, not him.
But the real Kenny Kramer, on which Kramer was based? So the guy that Michael. Richard. Based Creamer off.
Yeah, the guy that lived because Jerry Seinfeld was loosely based on Larry David. Larry David lived across the corridor in the apartment complex from the real campground.
Kenny Kramer and he did this tour of Australia like it was like a spoken was.
Well, he, he.
It a spoken word thing or.
Like, just like Kramer, very hair brained character and would do anything to kind of get rich quick, like turnips, like coffee table books, you name it. You know, all that sort of stuff. So he he very quickly.
He needed some money. I need to make some money, yeah.
Yeah.
Jumped on to the Seinfeld bandwagon. He's like I'm the real Kenny Kramer. He was doing tours around New York and stuff. If it's between him and Michael Richards, he had this big, long curly grey hair.
I'm the OG, yeah.
Yeah. Yes.
And a moustache. But he still looked every he was still very Creamer like he's he's he was the Creamer, the alpha.
Very eccentric.
Primer.
And he was doing a. Tour and he came into the radio station. And we're just thinking, I wonder what we're gonna get. And he came in and he tripped down the door. He came through the door.
Yeah.
Yes, as soon as he walked through the.
And he tripped through it.
Stories didn't hear and I was like, Oh my God, it's Kramer. No, but.
But he didn't do it on purpose. He he literally tripped down the step of the door in.
That, that, that. Particular moment took me a lot to recover from, to get through the rest of the conversation and.
That was great. That was so good. I'm. Pretty sure he asked if he could sleep at. Your house.
He did, he said he, well, he he was alluding to it and I very quickly reflected because he was he was touring around Australia and he's like, I was thinking about spending a few more days. Like, have you got a? Spare room or something? And I was like. Mate, no, sorry.
I think I.
Think you should have said. Yes.
The two bedroom.
I think, but thinking back now, imagine, imagine.
Flat in line and. No.
What could have happened?
But he he might still be here. Who knows? Who knows?
Probably, yeah. Anyway, but we did a segment we we got him to do the shapo because we did the shapo challenge. How quickly could you fill the shaper with the shapes from the Tupperware? And it was it was terrible at that. But then you and him?
Oh, they're they're little fish. Surprised. Sorry. Yeah. Ohh, Tupperware. Sorry.
Acted at the same from Seinfeld.
That's right. We got to, we got to do. A scene and and and and good old Mel doesn't throw anything away.
It was incredible. Not.
She sighed. It, and here it is.
We should set it up. Everybody saying that, you know, for those who didn't know this episode, that there's finally this naked woman, this woman addressing across the street from Jerry's apartment. And Kramer has been like, looking at this through spyglass for, like, the last week, which caused them to lose their.
MHM.
Content. Yeah. Good morning. Good. Morning. Yeah. Good morning.
Nothing like some good solid sack time, Jerry. She's not there. She's doing the what?
Ohh so did you make it through the night? Yes, I'm proud to say I did. So you're still master of your domain. Yes. Yes, I am master of my domain, but I will tell you this. I'm going over to her apartment. And I'm telling her to put those shades down.
Whoa, whoa. What did you just say? I can't take it anymore. She driving me crazy. I can't sleep. I can't leave the house. And I'm here. I'm climbing the walls. Meanwhile, I'm dating a virgin. I'm in this contest. Something's gotta gear. You'll hear what you're saying. Can you hear it? This is a beautiful woman. Walking around naked. You wanna snub her? The dumbest thing I ever heard. Man. Think of it. I'm. Not gonna let you do. It Jerry. Well, I'm doing it. Get out of my way. Stop. No, no, no. You can't do it. You can't do it. This is something that comes up once in a lifetime. Ohh, boys. Look into our bedroom windows. You would think, why can't there be a woman out there taking her clothes off? And now the wishes come true and you wanna you wanna throw it. Away. I'm sorry.
Kenny crawlers are very good, Jerry. Well, thank you. I do my. Best. Ohh dear, that was funny.
Yeah. So that was the that was me in the real Creamer, I was Jerry and he was Creamer and.
The real time, but how much did?
Like your Jerry was great. You. You you went through. You went through every every state of Jerry.
I don't know about that.
In that which was.
I had two I had to do it. That but also.
How much did he lean into Cramer? I think he's done that script before because that was. That was incredible.
He is very good. I don't think he had, so that was, that was the episode the competition. Remember the competition where they basically weren't allowed to pleasure themselves and and and and and there was the naked there and and it was funny because in the first scene of that it.
Yes. You know. Yeah, yeah. There was. A naked lady.
I think in that episode was great where it was like Jerry is there and they they saw the person and Kramer disappears in the background and he comes back about 3 seconds later and throws his money down on the bench. He goes. I'm out. It was so good. I mean could anything top the 2005 TV week?
Yes.
Ohh no, we got the the blue or the black Pyro and we've crossed the boxes and we've gone down to the post office.
Iggy awards. Fill out your form.
Put a $0.32 stamp on it and sent it in to win our white goods and here it is the night of nights. A co-host. It was a trio Co hosting that was a new.
Hmm.
Yes. At the Crown in Melbourne.
Thing.
Oh really?
Eddie McGuire, Andrew O'Keefe, oh, gosh and Rose McManus.
Ohh my God. That's like the seventh level of Australian television hell, they're the gatekeepers. Yes, yeah. For all your sins, you're gonna be enduring.
Yes. And you know yes and fast. Forward to now and.
The couple of people don't.
Really talk about much, do we?
Yeah. Well, we don't, do we.
It was the first time they had. Multiple hosts, so they were. Sharing the load, it was a big. Night for rose.
Yeah.
He won three awards, most popular light, entertainment or comedy.
Yeah.
Programme for live live Silver Logie, the most popular TV presenter and Gold Logie for most popular personality on Australian television. I think it was like the the third. Gold. Logie that he'd won.
Maybe, I mean, you know, he could be quite critical of Rove, but at least he was bringing some sort of variety and and entertainment into TV. That wasn't reality or anything like that, I I think.
They won them for a few years. I loved Rove life. I I really liked that show.
I I thought it was OK. I here and I knew a little bit but having said.
When it.
On. I thought it was great.
Did he?
That like we interviewed. Him a couple of times, I think. Yes, he was always really generous with his time and a really nice guy. I think he was the real deal. But, but you know this.
Lovely, lovely guy, yeah.
Hmm.
This we're at a bit of a turning point in television here, not quite here, but these things are still going OK. I mean, syndication has happened a lot of those regional TV stations are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. You were in the business at the time. So you would have been very familiar with that. And as reality TV sort of takes off.
Hmm.
The things like scripted drama and stuff that like, you know, has writers and directors and crew on and all of that sort of stuff are starting to really fall by the wayside.
And I think a lot of the rules kind of changed over time as well, like your local content rules were shifting. So local content was what kind of. Really saved a lot of Australian jobs, but also helped keep the, you know, like some of those really good Australian dramas going because you had to have a certain percentage of of local content and then a lot of those laws changed and it could be at any time of day. And you had a lot of the, the the ownership laws changing as well. So you had.
Yes.
Certain media groups buying up a lot of the regional stations, so you lost a lot of that local. Yeah, the local news content.
Yeah.
Children's TV programming and then you.
Yeah, especially children's TV programme, right? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And then you would start to get, but not just that when you look at things like like voiceovers, for example, when the major networks start taking over the regional ones. They lose their regional branding, so things like voice over. So I used to do voiceovers for prime as it was then, but now that it's Prime 7, they can use the channel 7 voiceovers.
Yeah, yeah. And and even your commercials. Like they're getting sifted and sent up to a hub. They're just getting all reported out of one hub and then and then sent out.
You're not producing them locally. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yes.
So you lose. Big, big arms of your production thing and the industry gets a lot smaller.
Yeah.
I think signs of budget cuts would have been the technical glitch that happened when channel 9 lost their signal just minutes before. Yes, just before they now said they got it back up to see Rove.
Just before the Gold Logie ohhh. My gosh, that's that. Would it imagine being the person behind the scenes that stuffed something didn't plug something in. Imagine lamps.
As the recipient. And the winner is the police stand by. So Chris Hemsworth was in there. He was the most popular new male talent for his role in home and away.
Ohh so this was his big start. Ohh.
Yeah, yeah, neighbours got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Ah, yes, and yeah. Mcleod's daughters won best drama series, so TV drama was still alive and well. That's what I mean. Well, you know, how are people gonna know about safety around silos if if not from the clouds, daughters, when that pivotal moment when Tess fell in the silo?
You loved the flower's daughters.
Test.
Teddy, you're right. I'm OK. Nothing broken. Maybe a few weevils telling me sorry about this. Guys, don't move.
Sure.
Yeah, don't move. Because you know what happens then she moves and she starts to sink in it like quicksand. Yes, very dangerous.
Locus all the grain you have literally been talking about tests falling into the silo. Since we've been together 20 years, you've been discussing pests in the silo. I don't think I've ever even seen that episode.
Yes. Yeah. It was a big deal, mate. It was. A big deal. I I haven't seen it either, but I've I've managed to from the amount of promotion that it received on channel 9 at the time when tests did fall into the silo. I mean, it was gripping. There's a lot of tension.
You've been talking about it. It's a big moment in Australian TV. That, and the blue heeler sky, remember when he finally won Logie.
John wood, yeah.
Everyone, I think it was a sympathetic it just kind of that we all we're all so happy for him, weren't we?
People went berserk. People went berserk. Yeah. There's have been a huge like superhero mash up where like maybe.
That was a big moment.
Came along and.
Saved her, pulled her out of the silo.
Safe test from the Sila. Yeah, you know. Ohh so a bit of downsizing. So we're just gonna merge Blue Heelers and the clouds daughters. So we might bring a couple of other shows into the mix and just smoosh them all together.
Great crossover, little healers. Perfect. Beck Cartwright. What I don't know. Bring her in.
She could dance. Dance will do. A combination of dancing with the stars with the actual drama as well they could. You could do mcleods daughters on ice.
From Harmon Weiss. Dancing in the silos. Let's not let's not think too much of it.
Which has become an increasing problem in country towns as well. So you know, I'm not saying there's an epidemic at this stage. I don't believe everything that I see on today tonight, but just.
Don't don't stand longer.
You know, for women, just for.
Don't fear, mung. Are you ready? Yeah, the six boom is from PP. Yes, OK. Do kids even get chased by dogs anymore? This generation don't go through.
****. Ohh my God. So many times. Do you know what?
Dogs weren't even in yards when we were kids.
That's why you had the bottles of water around the bushes cause it doesn't just come on your side. Lot of **** on it all the time. There was a dog in our street, no joke. Got run over six times and was still alive and it was.
Coming to you, I am. Yes, of course.
Tough though.
A little dog.
Yeah.
It was a little yappy dog and it used to chase me when I was on my bike.
Yeah.
And it would bite me on the head.
Yeah. So yes, a similar lived experience when I was living in a very small country town, we used to, we had a laneway behind our house and we used to get on our BMX's and it was a straight line. It was the most boring and **** thing. But we used to ride our BMX's as fast as we could to the end of the laneway and. Back. Yeah. And then suddenly somebody moved in. They had two Chihuahuas, 2 Chihuahuas.
Who used to?
Like relentlessly chase us on our BMX's and they were terrifying with result.
Little ********, the one that chased me was called Cindy, and it was like a hairy Jack Russell or something. And then I crossed the road from Cindy with Sandy. Sandy was Sandy was like a golden retriever cross with the Labrador and Sandy would hump me up my leg so I would chase me and I'd have to run.
Yes, Cindy and. Oh well, that's a bit revolting. And then molest you.
So that I wouldn't get humped by Sandy on.
League and then.
There were Blue Heelers and Red Heelers, and you know those mixed dogs and they just.
He was in the neighbourhood, yeah.
They'd chase you. They'd always chase you.
They would chase it.
You just run as fast as you. Could get in the front door. Before it bit you, it's like a.
Terrifying, terrified wild dogs.
That doesn't happen anymore, does it?
Wild dogs roaming the streets? No, I.
Yes.
Was always, you know, the scariest thing about you?
And how many times did?
You step in, dog it as a kid.
I hate hate.
It was everywhere cause the dogs were all on the. Streets.
Don't get me started. I'll go back to community notice boards in a second, but there is a lot of.
Pooping.
In our suburb and I've mentioned it a couple of times, you know on the Community notice boards again, just put it in that digital storage locker where my footprint exists. No, but the scariest thing about the trial was that used to chase me was if they had it come into contact with one of our pedals while we were.
There is not the same as. When you're a kid, though. The metal panels and that's another wrap on a summer programming best bits episode thereof. I think we've got one more to go, haven't we? And then we're back into.
But we would have killed them. Yes, one to go, yeah.
It.
Yes, hopefully. Well, we've got a.
And start looking at 2006.
Pull all the bits and pieces together. New intros and whatnot.
Waiting on yes, Daniel. Waiting for Daniel to come back cause I think he might be on holidays so he might feel.
Ohh. Ohh God, I hope we'll hope. Yeah. OK. Well, we might have to get, like, a a stunt Daniel to to come and do it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, just a holding Daniel.
A bit late. With the new intro, but work around Daniel's schedule, he's popular. OK. We could do that alright.
Yeah. If that makes any sense whatsoever. Thanks for sticking around though during summer programming. We do appreciate it. You could be watching the cricket, you could be doing something else and you've you've chosen us, which is wonderful. Yes, the.
Place holder.
Hmm.
Tennis.
Tennis is about.
Senior season.
To start too. Ohh God help us all. Anyway, we'll see you next week with more summer. Programming. See ya. Bye.
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