Bad Day was everywhere and Crazy suddenly disappeared

Rewind to 9 April to 15 April 2006 — and somehow one of the biggest songs of the year is about having a terrible day, another song is so popular it gets pulled from the charts and the hip hop world is hit with a loss that still echoes today.

🎹 You had a bad day… and everyone knew it
Bad Day by Daniel Powter becomes the emotional support soundtrack of 2006. It’s topping charts, dominating American Idol eliminations and playing in basically every public space imaginable. Sad lyrics, suspiciously upbeat piano and nursery rhyme vibes - you know what this means… 

🎧 Crazy takes over — then vanishes
Crazy by Gnarls Barkley is everywhere… until it isn’t. After dominating the charts, the song is literally pulled from sale and the reason really is crazy. Bet you never knew this one! 

💿 Rihanna: the quiet beginning of a takeover
An 18-year-old Rihanna drops A Girl Like Me and starts stacking hits like SOS and Unfaithful. At the time? Solid pop moment. In hindsight? The origin story of one of the biggest artists on the planet — midriff tops, ringtone bangers and the start of a very long reign.

🔫 The loss that shook hip hop behind the scenes
Detroit loses Proof — D12 member, battle rap king and the day-one who helped bring Eminem into the spotlight. The circumstances are messy, the impact is huge and changes the tone of Eminem’s career moving forward. 

📱 The internet before it sold its soul
Meanwhile, early social media is exploding in popularity… and advertisers are like, “hmm, not sure this will work.” We chat about what social ads looked like 20 years back…

Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

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The year is 2006. We head to the hills and learn reality is scripted. Your Sony Cyber Shot uploads 462 blurry regrets. A Facebook poke makes everything complicated. And Twitter's like, cool story, you've got 140 characters. Go. T-minus 20. Rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. April 2006. 

T-minus 20. 

Bringing sexy back. 

I want to forgive you. T-minus 20. 

I hate this long distance relationship. And I want to forget you. You have no style or succession. This is a beauty. 

This is very nice. 

Yeah, boy. 

We are rewinding to the 9th to 15th of April 2006, a week where one song completely took over the world. A future global superstar was still in her early era and the headlines hit a mix of iconic and heavy in only a way the mid-2000s could. With your hosts Joe and Mel, hello Mel. 

Hello, yes, this is T-minus 20. We jumped back exactly 20 years to relive the chaos culture and the moments we didn't realise We're actually shaping everything that we know today. From chart dominating hits to the rise of artists who go on to define a generation, plus the stories behind the headlines, a lot of which land very differently with hindsight. 

Oh yeah, no different than this. I make you crazy I make you crazy We are going to unpack when that song took over the world. 

And there's an interesting story behind it as well. 

Yes. 

Why it suddenly disappeared? 

I never knew this. I can't wait to talk more about that. Oh, I can't wait to talk about that. 

Rihanna. 

She has a release of an album and it's... This is the turning point for her where she starts to become pretty big. 

That's a turning point for me too. 

Rapper Proof is shot and killed in a nightclub in Detroit. His real name is Deshawn Holton. According to police, an argument led to gunshots at the CCC nightclub located in Detroit's Eight Mile Road. 

Yeah, big news story this week with the death of the assassination, the murder of proof from D12, which we will talk about very soon in the news. So, you know, grab that Nokia phone, update your MSN, get some deeply emotional lyrics in there, and let's jump back to a time where one song could define a week and some stories hit a little bit harder than others. 

Or one song could take over your iPod Nano or your iPod Shuffle. I was reading... 

Because there's 1000 songs in your pocket. I think it's hard for one to do that. 

Oh, I don't know. If you've got it on repeat. 

Okay. 

If you've got it on repeat, you can replay. I saw a... I keep going to say tweet. It's not a tweet. I've still got to find out what an X is called. 

It's a ****. 

Is it a thread? 

Oh, for an X. No, that's fine. Yeah, one of those things. Don't worry, it's all gonna, it's all gonna become. 

I saw some words on a social media. 

On a social platform. 

On a social media. 

It's all gonna go the way of the dodo pretty soon. It'll be extinct. But you saw some words, sorry, yes. 

I saw some words on the internet. Dear Apple, the iPod needs to come back. Not for nostalgia. For the parents who want their kids to love music and audio books without a browser, social media, and the whole internet attached to it. 

Oh, my God. 

Amazing. Isn't that lovely? 

It's just so true. 

But I saw it on the social media, so that was. 

Attached to the social media. 

I think our son is a trendsetter. 

Yeah. Yeah, he loves the physical media. 

We spoke probably about a month, maybe a month and a half ago. 

Oh, about the ripping the CDs. 

About him learning to rip the CDs, and then you having to go and buy Hybrid Theory by Linkin Park, because we were sure it was in the CDs, but it wasn't. And we figured out you can actually still buy CDs. 

I was judged when I bought that Linkin Park CD. I bet you were. 

What T-shirt were you? What metal shirt were you wearing when you went to buy it? 

I was in my work clothes. So I was judged by the person with all the corporate metalheads. I was judged by someone with his metal sh*t in their face at JB Hi-Fi. I felt underdressed because I didn't have enough tattoos. And then I felt worse because I was being judged because I was buying a LinkedIn part. It's not for me, it's for my son. 

Sure, mate. Sure, old man, whatever you say. 

Thanks. Okay, boomer. Yep. 

Anyway, so he's done that. 

Yes, the physical media, yes, within CDs. 

I went over to see my dad the other day. And he starts asking me, How do I get some music into my car? Because I don't have a CD player. 

Oh, right. 

So he's also wanting to know how to rip CDs. 

Just sing along acapella. 

He wants to rip them and put them on a USB drive though, not an iPod is too much for him. He's like, no, that's too much in the future. I don't understand that. I don't want to learn that. 

Plugging a USB into a car is fraught. 

Yeah, who knows what you want to undo or change the settings. 

Exactly. We're like when you find a USB. 

Isn't that exciting? And you're like, this could be a virus. 

I don't know. I feel like I should put a condom on it before I plug it into my computer. 

Might catch something. Well, you could. You could catch a virus. Or it could be something really good. You never know. Never know what you're going to get. So we had to teach him how to rip CDs to put on a USB. 

Yes. 

And then I got a text message from my bestie last week. 

Yes. 

Going, oh. I was in Woolworths. 

Right. 

And I heard S Club 7 on Woolworths Radio. And I was like, that's great. That's perfect. Because I love S Club 7 and I love Woolworths Radio. And I'm glad that you were in Woolworths listening to Woolworths Radio. 

What's going on? 

Well, she was like, well, it reminded me of when we used to go out and we used to dance to S Club 7. Can I borrow S Club 7 CDs? Because she knows that I hoard CDs. I'm like, of course. So I'm like, yeah, sure. I've got to go into the cupboard in the shed that's behind all these things. 

Yeah, you've got all of the Woolworths radio playlists, like in physical media out of the cupboard in the shed. 

I do, but the thing is, I was dumb because I let you have the higher up shelf. So my shelf is down the bottom and the whole shelving is tucked into a corner. So I've got to kind of contort myself around your bikes, hang upside down with a torch because it's really dark to try and find the CDs. And because there's so many of them, they're just wedged in there. So it's quite the debacle. 

I think it's I think it's wildly appropriate. Because back in that day, you couldn't just listen to music, you had to work for it. Whether it be saving the $30, going to the shop, getting the physical media, recording it to you. It all involves some kind of labour. 

I did work for it. And then she messages me back and is like, if it's not too much trouble, could I peruse your collection? And I'm like, only if you're willing to contort with a torch and, go through all the bikes. 

I was going to say you have to sign a waiver first and then we'll give you a torch. 

Who knows what's going to happen? You fossicked. No, well, I fossicked for her. So I had to go back into the cupboard. And then I was like, I'm not going to take, because she wanted me to take photos. I can't take photos. I've got a million CDs. So I just grabbed a whole bunch and dropped them off to her. And so she's burning them and she's putting them onto I don't even know what she's putting them on to because she doesn't have an iPod. 

Right. 

I think she's putting hers onto a USB as well to put in her car. 

She's gonna plug it in the car as well. 

So our son has really started something. He's brought back the physical media and everyone's ripping and burning and wonderful. 

Ahead of the times. Speaking ahead of its time, that recorder, just every time, it just takes me to a special place. It really is. 

I really feel like I was thinking the other day, it's probably about time that I recorded something else. 

It's been a while. 

It's been a while since I pulled it out of the instrument bucket. 

The blowing, the ********* the. 

Instrument bucket just up there on that shelf. 

Oh, yes, the instrument bucket. 

There's a triangle, there's finger symbols. There's A tambourine. Remember we got the tambourine for when we were doing Sing Star. So we could play the tambourine while we're singing Are You Gonna Be My Girl by Jet? 

It was good. We also got the freestanding microphone stand, so we could do a bit of doo-wop while we were doing the same stuff. 

Yeah, that was before we got the cordless mics. 

Those were the days. 

Why did they never bring a Brittany headset out? 

It was never the same. You know what? That's another thing. Yes, well, they did bring a Brittany headset out. Yeah, there's a game. I think it was just, but it was very localized. I'll find that for you later. But I do, just before we move on to the actual Hatches Matches and Dispatches, because we were supposed to be doing, the physical media for those. was karaoke. I mean, that was better too. When they went digital, you had trouble syncing everything up. 

And their songs weren't as good. 

It just didn't go as well, did it? 

No, but you could watch other people singing online and we spent many days doing that. 

That was good. But I feel like they were set up for failure because it just wasn't as good as it was. 

Remember the old guy singing Coco Cabana when he was drunk at Christmas? Crown was on sideways and he was with the Coco Cabana. 

Yes, Christmas in the karaoke community was very good. Anyway, they had matches matches and dispatches clue. A celebrity. This is a birthday. Not only is this a birthday, but this is a birth. Oh. A hatch. 

A hatch. 

We have a hatch, which is very rare for us. Yes. 

And not a YouTuber, I'm assuming? 

No, it's their 20th birthday this week, and they said this. 

Music is just... It's embedded in every aspect of my life. Like any hobby I have, it relates back to music somehow. I mean, there's definitely, there is pressure to live up to a certain expectation, I guess. But I just wanna make music. People can receive it however they want to. I don't expect people to come from my dad and go straight to me and be like, you know, it's just, people can find me. Naturally. 

So that sounds like a second generation musician. We'll find out who that is at the end. 

Rapper DeSean Holton, better known as Proof, one of the founders of the rap group D12 and a close friend of sometime D12 member Eminem, was shot and killed at a Detroit nightclub when he was 32 years old. Police say Proof was shot in the head after an altercation at the Triple C Club. He was rushed to St. John Holy Cross Hospital, but was pronounced dead on arrival. A second victim in the shooting, an unnamed 35-year-old man, remains in critical condition, and police are still investigating. Proof often shared the stage with Eminem. He was even the best man at M's wedding this past January, but he was also an important figure in the Detroit hip-hop scene. 

Bad week for Eminem. Last week he's filed for divorce and this week one of his best man was shot in the head and killed. Proof, I remember this at the time. It was a shocking story. 

It was, yes. April the 11th, 2006 he was shot and killed. He grew up in Detroit, grew up with Eminem, and was the founding member of D12. He was basically the leader behind the scenes. He met Eminem when they were teenagers growing up. He was already quite respected in the battle rap scene, and he was actually known as the Battle Rap King in Detroit. He really helped to build the local hip hop scene and was a mentor to a lot of artists, including Eminem. and brought him into that world and vouched for him. Because remembering, like if you've seen the movie Eight Mile, Eminem, people thought, nah, he can't rap. And it took a lot for him to enter the scene and he was mocked and ridiculed. But proof sort of... introduced him and validated, nah, he's cool, he's legit, and helped bring him into the scene. 

Well, the thing was, too, that club that he was shot in, that Proof was killed in, the Triple C club or whatever, was on Eight Mile Road, which was, I mean, yeah, which is where it all began and ended for him. 

Yeah, and Eminem often said that Proof was the only one who believed in him in the early days. And he co-founded D12 in the mid-90s. Each member had an alter ego. I think there was Bizarre, Kanava, Conardus, Tristin McVey. And then, so D12 were around before Eminem really... 

Yes. 

And so then when Eminem did, he kind of brought D12 along with him because they were there from the beginning. 

That's kind of what they all did. That was what Fiddy Cent did with G-Unit. 

Yeah. 

Yes. So he brings his crew with him. Like if one of them gets famous, it's almost like they're obligated to bring the rest of their crew up with them. 

Yes. So the night of the shooting, There's conflicting reports of what actually happened, but on the record, apparently there was a dispute, I think, during a game of pool, potentially. Proof allegedly shot at another man during the dispute. And then the cousin of the man that Proof shot then shot Proof in the head point blank, killing him. 

You know, it was me, Em, Deeton, the whole D12 went in the room and just saw him laying there like that. You know, it was just a, everybody was just ****** **. You know what I'm saying? It was just a ****** ** time. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sure he took it. as hard as all of us, being, or even harder being how close he was. But, that didn't matter. Everybody took it hard, know what I'm saying? It was just a rough, rough period, because I got shot like 3 months before that, I got shot in the head, almost got killed, and then three months later, same thing, bullet to the back of his head and he didn't make it. 

Who was that? 

Was Obi Trice? 

Right. So he was talking about what? Was he there? 

So they, I think they had to go and identify the body. 

So that's you talking about when I went to the body. And obviously he's talking about he was, he's talking about Eminem. 

He was also, yes. 

Yeah, I'm glad we set that up. That was good. 

That's all right. We did it afterwards, retrospectively. 

Posthumously. 

As you imagine, you could imagine, Eminem was devastated. And I think he did withdraw from public life for a bit. We didn't see a lot of him after this. It happened for quite some time. But like I said, there've been conflicting reports over what actually had occurred. 

Oh yeah, there was, this was on, I think so there was a guy that was the... He wasn't a manager. He's like a marketing merch guy for proof. And he was on the Kid L podcast and he had his two cents. 

Proof mom, Pepper Holton, she's passed. The day, till the day she died, she had reports. And I had never seen the reports, but it was no gun residue on proof hands. So he never had a weapon. Yeah, well, it was, it was, and that's like some, stuff that's still a matter of fact one of one of Sean's his eldest son Deshawn Holton Jr. He's working on a documentary about it and he's like he is he's really into like finding but it was it's documents that he didn't have gun residue and it was like some crazy cover-up. 

Right. Which means that he didn't shoot someone first. So proof that proof didn't shoot anyone. Yeah, because there's no gun residue on his hands, but that, and that's what the initial report was saying, that he pulled his gun on someone and fired a shot. 

And then that person's cousin shot him. 

And they shot him in retaliation. 

But they, yeah, there was told that it wasn't, it wasn't handled well. And yeah, there was no gun residue. I think he was, he was pretty intoxicated as well. 

I don't think anyone ever knows the full story of these shootings unless they're actually there. Because they all just start making stuff up. 

But a lot of it was happening. There was a lot of shootings around this time. We were talking sort of late last year outside that radio station. Yeah. All the 50s entourage and everyone was getting shot. I think, you know. 

Given the given the controversial nature of Eminem and the fact that he likes to poke the bear, no wonder he was keeping a bit of a low profile after. So I think it profoundly affected his music as well, because it was, he did take it a lot darker. Yes. 

Yeah, it did. And D12 obviously then never really recovered as a group. I think they'd put out two albums prior to that, but we didn't really hear any more. I think some of the members did do a bit of solo stuff here and there, but nothing. 

Didn't they have, didn't D12 have a reunion recently in tour though? I'm sure that they did. But I mean, I don't think it would have been all that it was cracked up. I mean, well, Proof's not there for starters. I don't think Eminem would have had much to do with it. It's probably just bizarre and one other guy. That would have been it. 

Oh, you're right? Oh, you're on the internet? You're connected. 

You can go. 

Okay, sure. 

Yeah. 

I found an interesting article. So this one's not so much tech news. 

That's right. You found the article. So away you go. 

Okay. It's just, it's an interesting article to ponder given the state of play today. So this was an article that was in the New York Post in this week in 2006. And it was talking about social networking sites, in particular MySpace and Facebook, saying that while they're all the rage and the kids love it. And there's millions of people signing up for it. 

Everyone's signing up for it very quickly and they're growing. Yes. 

They were really struggling to get advertisers on board. 

Really. 

They were wanting to monetize these sites, but nobody wanted to advertise. 

Oh, those were the days, weren't they? 

And the analysts were weighing in and questioning whether social social media networks could move beyond the hype and into mainstream marketing. And they felt that it couldn't. And they were predicting the end of social media because it wouldn't be able to attract an advertising revenue along the lines of what newspapers, TV, radio could do. 

Well, take a look at me now. 

Isn't that amazing? Back in 2006, MySpace and Facebook were gaining 5 million users on average per month. 

Wow. 

MySpace was sold to News Corp for 580 million, which was huge at the time. And the total ad spend at this point is around $20.4 million. 

Right. And that's 2005. That was the total ad spend for 2005. 

Yeah. And so they were forecasting it to go up to about 50 million in 2006. 

Yeah. 

Struggling to get advertisers and they're starting to say, no, we're not going to, we're not going to do this. is going to fail. This is not going to work. 

They weren't hitting the KPI at all. They must have been so stressed. 

Well, they were talking about, well, we don't think that users would respond to the ads. The ads would feel too intrusive, you know, amongst social media. And the platforms themselves were way too chaotic and unpredictable. And they hadn't really worked out what the advertising formats were at this stage. 

I don't think video was huge in socials at this stage. It would have been more just in the form of posts and pictures, right? 

Well, no, it was actually more skins. So profiles, because you know how you did all that coding with MySpace. Yeah, You'd buy profile skins. 

So your favourite football team on your profile? 

Movies would bring them out. 

Your favourite packet of cigarettes. Yeah. 

Movies brought them out as well. And then there were brand pages. 

Oh yeah. 

So brands paid to have their own accounts effectively. 

That's right. I can remember using a Star Wars filter that made my face look like Darth Maul and then I put it up. 

I remember when you did that. Yeah. 

Stupid things like that. 

That's right. You loved those things. 

Oh, they were great fun. 

You did them a lot. 

Just for a while. It was the novelty thing. The novelty thing, like the missile that you could explode and the augmented reality stuff. Yeah, all of that stuff was fun. 

The analyst literally called social media a bubble, saying it was going to burst. 

I still think it might, like it may. 

Fast forward, you reckon? 

Maybe. 

Fast forward to today. And so the KPI was around 50 million in 2006. I was going to say. I don't even know what it is, but it's in the lots of billions. 

Yeah, you're right. I don't think the bubble is going to burst at all. I don't think it's going to, I think it might fizzle out though. I feel like we're kind of getting wise to it, right? Like how I've gone, I barely go onto Facebook now with the aim of, I don't go onto Facebook for what I used to go onto Facebook for, which was to stir up and be in touch with my friends and then stir up other people. just to have a look. But it's like, because I still occasionally want to see what my friends are doing, but that is lost in an ocean of... 

You don't see that. You can't find anyone anymore. 

Exactly. And then a whole bunch of content that you don't know whether it's true or not. Like there's so much stuff up there that's AI generated and just like slop, just garbage. And it's like, well, I just, I don't have the energy for it. 

I think the ratio. 

Book or consume some art. 

The ratio of ad to not ad is ridiculous as well. I'm seeing more than one ad in a row now. 

Oh yeah, of course. 

Which is, and the other day, because like I wouldn't buy anything through Facebook. But I've bought a lot through Instagram. 

Yeah. 

I get suckered in late at night when I'm flicking through the stories. 

It is highly effective. 

And it knows me well. 

This is the problem. Advertising through social media is highly effective. 

It knows I'm working on the Miss New Beauty and I'm getting all the protein and all the collagen ads. 

So it's going to push you more stuff. I remember when we said we were. 

I was getting one for hair things the other day because my hair's thinning and it looked really effective. 

But the whole reason that I got onto social media initially, because I wasn't an early adopter, everyone's I was like, you got it on Facebook? And I was like, no, And then look what happened. They created an absolute monster when I did actually get on there. And I've just lived in regret ever since. But no, I got on there because we were getting married and I needed to connect with all these people to try and build the guest list for the wedding. That was the initial motivation for doing it. And then once you tell social media, you're engaged. 

Oh yeah, that's right. 

That's when we started to get pushed a lot of content, even back then for like, I mean, I think we got married in like 2012. So I didn't really get onto Facebook until about 2010, 2011. Probably I want to say 2011. 

I think most of the time it was just you doing your Foursquare check-ins. 

Yeah, On through Facebook. Trying to get a free bowl of ramen at Wagamama's. That's what I was doing. Yeah. So, and then, and again, that was advertising as well. really, because it was pushing me to go to this restaurant so I could get a free bowl of ramen every single day. 

Well, you became the mayor of Wagamama's for a while. 

Highly esteemed position. 

And someone else took the mayorship and you were ******. 

I was not happy about that. I'm like, we have to go to Wagamama's right now. 

Seven times in a row, so I can take my mayorship back. 

Somebody has forcibly removed me from office. You know, I've been I've been impeached. It's terrible. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, there was always advertising on there back then, but it's definitely. 

It's, I don't know. There's something about it now with the algorithm and knowing you better than you know yourself. But they've done some upgrade and I can't buy anything through it. And it keeps telling me I have to upgrade to be able to buy. So I'm not going to upgrade. That's what I'm going to do. That's going to stop me from buying random gadgets in the middle of the night. 

But it's also just that naivety of. of scrolling through it and then reading something and just taking it as truth straight away. It happened to me the other day. They were like, oh, and because it was a plausible story. It's like a picture of Jim Ross, the wrestling commentator, you know, the, by God, they're going to kill each other, Stone Cold era, Attitude era wrestling commentator. And it was like, Jim Ross has passed away. And I'm like, yeah, that could have happened. Oh my God, Jim Ross is dead. And then I'm looking and I'm like, no, that's a hoax. there's just misinformation all the time about people, about scenarios, about you, about whatever. It's just telling you stuff that you want to hear that might not actually be true. Want to hear or hope to hear or I don't know. 

Or it's people doing the same content. That's starting to get on my goat a bit. 

Oh yeah. 

Where particularly in the gym, well I've got a lot of gym accounts that are pushed to me. Again, there's the protein. 

There's so much gym content. 

But the influencers all do. do the same thing. Like one of them will wear the gardening gloves and do a pull up. And then the next one does the gardening gloves. And it's the exact same. It's like they've got the same script that they work from. Like they all did the joke about the Bulgarian split squats where you just, here's your form and then you walk out the door. It's the same thing. I'm like, hang on, I've seen that before. That other, that other influencer. Oh my God, it's just. 

Can't we just go back to planking? For the Ice Bucket Challenge. 

Oh, planking. They were simple at times. Yeah, weren't they? Yeah. 

Planking, you know. 

Harmless. 

Take a photo of yourself lying down. Let's go to music. That's still pure, isn't it? 

Yeah, flaunt it. Number one here in Australia. 

Go on it, go on it, go on it. Gonna make you dance till you bleed. 

I missed that last week when the Forever Young was on. I looked up the words the other day. 

Yeah, they're gross. 

No, but you know how we said we didn't know what they were saying when we were trying to figure it out? 

Yeah. 

They say this track's designed to make you cream. I thought they said crave. 

Yes, so did I, based on what it was. But that's, remember a few episodes ago when we talked about the Mondegreen? Yeah, that was. 

Oh my goodness. Yeah, that was quite the shock. 

I know. Like I said, every time I hear that song, I feel like I need to have a shower. 

But so do I now. 

Oh, goodness me. Yes, I need to thoroughly wash myself. 

Over in the UK, I don't know what the number one song was because I didn't grab it. 

Oh, really? 

So let's just... 

That's terrible. That's negligent, that is. Should we just say it's... No. 

Oh, no, I did get it. Actually, no, we'll talk about it in a minute. Sorry, I just put it in a different spot in the spreadsheet. What will we do first? Let's do US Top 5. 

OK. 

Waiting up until you get home 'Cause I can't sleep without you, baby You're beautiful You're beautiful You're beautiful, it's true Please. And I'm so sick of love songs So set and slow So why can't I turn off the radio? 'Cause you had a bad day You take your one down You sing a sad song Just to turn it around You say you don't know You tell me don't lie You're number one. 

Now you get to talk about it because you didn't... Okay, away you go, way you go. 

Well, we actually, we should have played it at the start of the show because it's probably a big story. 

Well, that's you were going to use it as in the title for the hook and we can't. 

That was my oversight, wasn't it? I've messed a few things up. 

Because the other thing that we are talking about from the intro is the UK #1 as well. Just a bit of a spoiler alert there. 

I've really stuffed things up. 

I'm sorry. That's okay. 

Yeah, bit loose on the spreadsheet, aren't I? 

It's alright. It happens to the best of us. I mean, look at me. 

I'm a freak in the spreadsheets. 

I can't really tell. Are you? 

Yes. 

Oh, well, hang on. I'm just doing that. 

Lady on the street and a freak in the spreadsheet. 

Let me just fire up Excel. Away we go. 

Let's talk about this one though, because we've been alluding to having a talk about this one. 

Okay. 

Massive song for 2006, Daniel Powter with Bad Day. 

Because you had a bad day, you're taking one down, you sing inside a song just. 

Yes, I remember now because I wanted to talk about it a few weeks ago and you shut me down. I started going off about it. Now I've got a time remember? 

Do you remember what you were going to say? 

Oh, I just know that it was one of those songs that they used to use quite a bit and it became quite vexing because it was like the soundtrack to a dad crash out, basically. So, you can't stub your toes, stub your toes, 'cause you had a bad day, you take one doubt, that sort of thing. Can't get the lawnmower going, This ***** ** **** lawnmower, I tell you what, ******* *** ** * ***** every ******* time this lawnmower. 

'Cause you had a bad day, and you take one doubt, sing a sad song just... 

Yeah, it's just the soundtrack to the dad crash out. 

It really is. It really is. It was actually released in 2005, but didn't really explode until this week in 2006. It ends up becoming the Billboard number one song for 2006. 

Really. 

Yeah. 

Spoiler alert. 

Even though I think it only stayed at #1 for a few weeks, it wasn't one of those. 

No, but it's got its hooks into you because of this, it's a situational ballad. 

It is, and it sold millions of downloads during the early iTunes boom. So this is where iTunes starts contributing To those sales and the charts, so it was really huge on the... 

My god, it was this when you could start to send music to people 'cause they're like, Geez, mate, like my friend's having a bad day. I just might, maybe this will cheer him up. 

'Cause you had a bad day. 

No, it doesn't cheer me up at all. F**k you, Colin. Don't be emailing me that s**t. 

It was being mid-2000s piano pop alongside artists like James Blunt, Gavin DeGraw, Natasha Bedingfield. Daniel originally wrote the song after having, funny thing, that, a terrible day. He had a terrible day in Paris. I don't know how you have a terrible day in Paris. 

That's the first world problem, isn't it? Circular Bleu have had a bad day in Paris. 

My croissant was flat. 

What was you have a soggy bag? Yes. Because you had a bad. Suck it up, princess. 

It also got a massive boost from American Idol where it was used during the elimination episode. 

Of course. 

And well, the contestant got voted off. 

You can't sing and that is self-indulgent rubbish. Yep. 

It really is. It's about having a bad day, but it does feel quite cheerful. Oh, yeah. 

I think it's like there's some, there is some kind of optimism in there, but I just can't get past the soundtrack to the crash out. I actually find the song makes me angrier than a lot of really heavy kind of tunes. Like it fires me up. 

You've obviously bring back all these memories. 

If I was a, if I was a boxer or a UFC fighter, I think this is what I'd play to get me in the mood. for just breaking some skulls. Oh, Jesus Christ, I could just kill somebody. I would win that fight with that song as my soundtrack. 

You would. And it was also the piano riff and the melody were designed to feel quite simple and relatable, to add to the emotion. It was actually designed the sound of it to sound like a nursery rhyme. 

Really? It was that intentional. 

Yeah. They were going for nursery rhyme vibes. 

Mother Goose. Mother Goose is like, this guy's going to the charts and he's, Mother Goose is sitting there on a Mother Goose nest, on a Mother Goose eggs, you know, just going, here's me with a back catalogue of nursery rhymes up the wazoo and this **** head comes along. 

It happened twice. 

I think there's only one thing we can do though. 

What? Oh. 

Let's see if a nursery rhyme. 

A nursery rhyme, of course. So, okay, if we get, right, what nursery rhyme? That's a, because this is, I'm like. 

I think you're angry. 

An angry nursery rhyme. I don't think there's any angry nursery rhymes, really. 

Well, you're angry at yourself for being a bit of a ****. and stuffing things up. So I feel like ride a **** horse. 

Oh, it's a Banbury Cross. 

Yes, I feel like that might be quite apt. 

Okay. 

Have you got the karaoke? We need the karaoke version. 

First of all, what the **** is a **** horse? 

I'm not sure. I'm not. Here's a picture. 

I see what they call it, a **** horse. Fair enough. Yeah. It just looks like a really cranky horse. 

It's a fancy horse. 

It is a fancy horse. 

It's got a ribbon in its hand. 

So hang on, karaoke version. 

Yes, have we got the karaoke version? Yep, push. 

All right. So. 

It's been a while. Do we need to do some vocal warm-ups first? Are we ready? Are we going to do it together or solo? Together. We'll do it together at the same time. 

Oh, this is going to be bad. Apologies in advance. Here we go. 

Do you want me to get the recorder? 

No, I don't want no accompaniment. Let's just, we've got plenty of stuff going on here. Ride a **** horse to Banbury Cross. I like it. It's working. 

To see a fine lady upon a white horse. 

I like it. 

It's good. here we go. With rings on her fingers and bells on her. 

Toes, she will have music wherever she goes. 

Wherever she goes. 

Ride a cockhorse to Banbury Cross to see a fine lady upon a white horse. With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes, she shall have music wherever she goes. 

Yes, my gosh. I don't know. I thought that was pretty good. 

Yeah, look, I haven't thought of **** horses for a while. It's nice. 

Very nice. No kidding. Maybe you should think of them more often. 

UK #1. 

Sure. 

We've got to talk about this one. This one's interesting, actually. 

I think you're crazy. I think you're crazy. 

Niles Barkley. 

Niles Barkley. 

That was a great song. 

That doesn't nursery rhyme. 

No, it was a great song. And I remember when it came out, it was a weird film clip as well. 

It was a Rorschach test. 

Yeah. 

For the video clip or something similar. 

Something to that effect. 

Raise Mel had this as her ringtone. He told us that earlier this year. Because remember we did the thing with the two seconds and that was one of the songs. 

Yeah. 

And he said that was. 

He could do it because it was his missus ringtone. 

Yeah, it reminded him of her phone ringing. 

Took him back. 

Yes. 

That's what this podcast is all about. 

It is. 

Mission accomplished. 

Back to ringtones. 

God, we're accomplishing missions left, right and centre on this. 

So Niles Barkley was actually two people. It was Celo Green, the Forget You. 

Yeah. 

Guy and Danger Mouse. 

And Danger Mouse was the DJ. 

Yes. 

And together, their powers combined, they formed Gnarls Barkley. 

Yes, with a silent G. Yes. The song, absolutely everywhere. This time 20 years ago. 

Yeah, are you okay? 

Yeah, I just had half a burp. 

Do you need a drink? 

It's fine. No, I'm good. Very big on iTunes, very big on the radio. It was also one of the first songs to blow up primarily via digital downloads. 

Oh, right. That old chestnut. 

It's #1 for 9 weeks in the UK. It wins a Grammy for Best Urban Alternative Performance. Here's where it gets interesting though. So I said it was #1 for 9 weeks. 

Yes. So it gets to 9 weeks. Yes. 

The label. pulls it. 

What? 

They pull the song from the UK charts. 

It's wildly successful. Number one in the UK charts for 9 weeks. This is week one. So they're going to get to week 9 and they pull it. It's doing so well. We're going to take it off the charts. 

I did not know that you could do this or how you could do this or where or why. 

What do you do? We're just not counting the sales. 

No, they stop selling it. They take it off the shelves. 

It's a product recall. 

They take it off the shelves, stop selling it and and they take it out of iTunes so you can't download it. So it's removed from sale. You couldn't buy it. 

We're removing that copy of Crazy by Niles Barkley. There's been a product recall. We've found traces of metal in the manufacturing process. 

It's pulled from sale. 

Right. 

But the reason is even more crazy. 

Traces of metal in the manufacturing process. 

Because they didn't want people to get sick of it. 

What? 

They didn't want people to get sick of it. 

How can you decide after nine weeks? 

Stop selling it. 

After 9 weeks. 

Because they didn't want people... Well, I guess when you think about you had a bad day, everyone got sick of that because it's everywhere. So they're like, let's just stop selling it. 

You just be like, oh, they're playing Niles Barkley again. 

Because you had a bad damn it. Nine weeks. 

Nine weeks of Niles Barkley. 

Isn't that... Just insane. It was selling so well, it wouldn't leave #1. And the demand wasn't dropping, so they just said, let's just stop selling it for a bit. 

Is that precedented? I feel like that's unprecedented. 

I think that's unprecedented music times. 

I don't think somebody would like remove a song from the charts because it's doing so well. 

Just imagine if Taylor's like, I'm sick of taking up the top 10 of the charts all the time. I'm just going to pull my songs. 

Gone. 

Sorry. Sold out. 

I mean, I get it. 

Sold out. 

Like, I get it. It's like nobody else wants to be on the charts. at that time. They're like, I'm not releasing it. 

Radio's still playing. 

No, Sparkly's still playing. 

Radio's still playing. 

It's just not charging. 

But they're just not selling it because it's obviously at this stage selling albums, shifting the units is what gets you to #1, not radio play. So I think they then started selling it again after a little while, but I don't really know what happened after that. I was just too shocked. I was like, you can't do that. And I don't think it was ever done in that kind of way. Like, I mean, you have artists like beyonc� who have these limited releases and like mysteriously release things without any lead up or marketing, but nothing. I haven't seen anything else where they've stopped selling a song because it was so popular. 

I've got friends who are musicians that I don't know any of them that would knock back a sale. I think you're crazy. I think you're crazy. I agree. 

And then I don't think we ever heard anything from Niles Barkley again. 

Oh, he did. I well, not as the duo. Celo just went out on his own. Yeah. SOSP someone else. Just went back 20 years. The testosterone levels just peaked. That was we got an album released. This is where Rihanna really became. massive, massive. This film clip, it was the film clip really for the song. I mean, it was like a hot lap in a V8 supercar. You were just like, you know, round the top of Mount Panorama, in the forest elbow, around the curves. It was amazing. And then you hit the dipper. Oh, boy. SOS, please someone help me. It's not healthy. 

For me to feel that's why all you are making. 

Also, shout out to Soft Cell, ******* **** in the background. 

I, my first memory of this song... was driving back from Sydney in the van after we did a shoot for the Possum Show. We did a shoot at K Zone and Total Girl. Remember those kids magazines? We used to go and interview the editors of those magazines and learn what was happening. And we were driving back in the van and we're just going into the Sydney tunnel, one of those Sydney tunnels. And that came on and I thought it was ******* **** and I embarrassed myself. And then we went to the tunnel and stopped playing. 

Sometimes I feel, and then Rihanna comes in, you're like, what? 

Is this? And then we're in the tunnel, I'm like, can we get out of the tunnel? Oh my goodness, what is this? 

Don't touch me, please, I cannot stand in the way you do. 

So huge from the album A Girl Like Me released on the 10th of April. She's only 18 years old at the stage. 

Well, now I feel like a litch. I really feel, that doesn't make me feel good at all. I'm sitting there watching the Rihanna Theatre. Now I just feel like a pervert. 

Well, in your defence, you would have been... Oh, actually, I know it's yours. 

Yeah, thanks. Okay, thanks very much. 

I just subtracted 20 years and it wasn't here 18, yeah. She was discovered by Evan Rogers, but obviously there is that very famous story about Jay-Z locking her in the room until she signed to his label. She had a meeting with him. You haven't heard that? 

No, I don't find it. 

In today's news, it does sound too much. But yeah. 

But he was like, she was that good. He refused. 

She wasn't allowed to leave the room until she signed. 

But now it's a bit. When you look through this lens, nah, it's not great. You can't be locking people in rooms, forcing them to sign contracts, mate. 

This is the early days. This is before the Bad Girl Ri-Ri era. So she's still more of that pop princess kind of feel. 

That's very poppy. I feel like she hasn't really been able to inject, starting to, but hasn't really injected her own style into the music as such. I mean, she's done ponder replay before. for this though. 

Yes. 

Which is very much more the sort of vibe that she goes for a bit later on as well. So maybe I'm just like, this is just a big pop song to launch her. 

Oh, I felt Ponder Repo was pretty poppy too. When you think about Good Girl Gone Bad, which was the album, I think came out a year later with Umbrella Ella Ella. 

I mean, does she write any of her own stuff? 

I don't know who writes for her. I reckon she would. 

I think she collabs. She has a lot of collabs. 

Not sure, but this one was huge on the ringtones. I remember a lot of people had that as a ringtone. And all over MTV channel movie. Which would have been. 

Terrible for you because it just would have reminded you of that ******* **** faux pas. 

Every time your phone rang. Well, look, I don't think I sang it that loud. I was sort of like, you know, sort of mouthing the words and I was like, oh, that's Rihanna. What is that? 

That's not Soft Cell. 

That's a shame. But then I liked it, so it was good. 

Yeah, well, I mean, that film clip is, I mean, I'm never going to watch it again now. It's probably a good time to air it out. We haven't done it for a while. Open up the boom box, get your boomer complaints ready to go. Dust off the boom box. This is the safe space. This is the place where you can put those complaints in, those old man yells at cloud type complaints where people might look at you and judge you and be like, okay, boomer. But not here. Not here. We open up the boombox as a celebration of the fact that, hey, maybe we're as mad as hell and well, it's not like we're not going to take it anymore. We're going to put up with it. But we will have a good old whinge over here with like-minded people who will celebrate us. And you can send your booms in. You can send them in. You can look for T-minus 20 podcast on the socials and just slide into our DMs. That's what you can do. 

And do an audio one and then we'll play you. We'll play you complaining on the show in the Boombox segment. 

I'd love it if we could do that. If somebody would do that. 

And you can play it to your kids and go, look, there's me complaining on some random podcast. 

Like Karen did all that. 

Having a complaint? 

Karen's the only one. 

Her kids thought that was great. 

She was the only one that's taken us up. 

So be like Karen. 

That's right. She's become a local celebrity because of it. 

Ray's done it and Ray's. 

I'm sure Ray's kids saw that as well. Karen and Ray have been the two that have done. for Karen, everyone keeps left on the footpaths for her now. Yeah, exactly. So, it's helpful. The boom box gets results. 

It's like Snap, Send, Solve. 

Exactly. 

It's exactly like that, but instead of complaining to the council, you're complaining to us. 

And we, if we're being honest, we rarely solve anything, but we do feel good at the end of it. We feel like we've exercised the demons. The weight has been lifted. 

No, I'm a frequent solver on Snap, Send, Solve. 

It doesn't surprise me at all. 

I solved 3 problems now. 

It's like your little visual boom box isn't it? 

I think what the council should do is put a little plug. This problem solved by Mel. 

I think I don't think you should incriminate yourself because if somebody doesn't have... Maybe somebody else is like, I kind of liked it the way it was. 

Well, actually, there was one choice that wasn't controversial. I think you'd be very careful. I'm very proud of my three problems solved. 

Congratulations. 

So we're going to solve a problem now. 

Right. 

Well, no, we're just going to whinge about something. But this one relates to the tech news that we're talking about earlier with the ads. 

Oh, the Facebook ads. 

Full circle. 

This is good. That's excellent. 

Good. Great technique from Daz. 

You're A consummate professional. Thanks for the boom, Daz. 

Thanks, Daz. Daz has got a blue tick. 

Oh, he's verified. 

Yeah. 

A verified boom, Daz. 

I don't know. 

He's a fool and his money has soon parted. Yes. 

No, Daz makes a lot of sense. So we're ready. 

Okay. No, judgement, Daz. Yes. What do you got? 

Gen X won't understand this. But back in my day, if you ever saw as many ads as you do on social media today, it meant you had at least three viruses on your house computers. 

That's right, I can't stop all these pop-ups. 

All I want to remember that. Remember the pop-ups you couldn't close? 

I know. All I did was type ******* into a browser. And now I'm just, I cannot stop it. I can't stop the tide. Did you have that? 

One that you couldn't, you actually couldn't close it. was some, I had that once. Oh my God. And every time you went to click it, would move, or you'd click it and then 10 more boxes would pop up. 

Oh my gosh. I didn't have a PC. Look, probably for good reason, because I definitely would have done that and I would have been in all sorts of trouble. All sorts of trouble. That's a great one. That is, that's, you cannot stop the tide of those pop-up ads. Although, you know, there's some smart people out there now who know how to get their *********** without pop-ups. Actually, I don't think you can get *********** in Australia anymore on the internet. Haven't they put some new law in place or something? 

Have they? 

Yeah, well. 

Oh, yes. So there's something about that. So does that mean you can't go to the OnlyFans? 

I think you can, but I think you have to do some kind of age verification, like show your ID or worse yet. 

Oh, so you're just going to hand your identification over? 

Yeah, or worse yet, submit yourself to a facial scan where you'll allow the site access to your camera and they'll be like, yeah, he looks old enough. We'll let him in. I mean, think about that. A facial scan. You know what? I've got a counter boom for this boom though. 

Okay. 

Because, okay, so you mean to tell me now, like I'm in the process of getting a passport photo and the criteria for that passport photo is so ridiculously strict. You can't just take it yourself. You've got to go into Officeworks or the post office and pay 20 bucks to get somebody to do it professionally. And then you get, there's still a possibility that might not take it. 

I use the term professional loosely. 

Exactly. But there's still a possibility that they may return it because it hasn't been taken properly and it's not meeting some of the criteria. 

You're showing a bit of tooth. 

Yet, you can be sitting on the toilet over on ******* doing a facial scan and they can go, yep, he's good, he's good, he's good to go, he's in. It is enough to bring you to tears really, isn't it? Honestly. It's taking all the fun out of life. It's the Hatches Matches and Dispatches segment. Well, we're back into the fun now. Let's do this. I love this week's because we have a birth. Yes. We have a birth. It's, well, this person is a YouTuber, but not in the sense that they're an influencer or anything. They're A musician. They're A musician, which is amazing. They were born this time 20 years ago, and they said this. 

Music is just, it's embedded in every aspect of my life. Like any hobby I have, it relates back to music somehow. I mean, there's definitely, there is pressure to, you know, live up to a certain expectation, I guess, but... I just, I just want to make, I want to make music. People can receive it however they want to. I don't expect people to, come from my dad and go straight to me and be like, it's just, people can find me naturally. 

There's the hint. Come to my dad and then find me. Obviously a very famous musician father. Born on the 15th of April, 2006. If you said Violet may growl, You're correct. The daughter of Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters and Nirvana fame, of course. 

Yes, so obviously grew up in a rock royalty household. 

Mother Jordan Bloom too. This isn't the other kid. This is the legitimate kid. 

Yes, I don't think we talk about that. 

Well, I don't want to, you know, yes. Anyway, happy, we don't want to ruin Violet's birth. 

Violet started performing publicly as a teenager, has sung live with the Foo Fighters on multiple occasions. 

Yes. 

Attention covering Adele's when we were young and people were like, oh, she can sing. 

Oh, can she what? She's very good, in fact. 

She's performed also with her dad at charity events. He has said that she's way more into classic music than modern pop. She loves Amy Winehouse, Weoda Apple, Nina Simone. And generally, generally has a respected voice, not just, you know, Dave's daughter. 

No, she can sing. She's awesome. She's got that. She reminds me a bit of like some of those early 2000s. I'm thinking even like late 90s bands like Sonic Youth and the Breeders and that sort of post grunge indie type. She's got that kind of vibe but she's rocking. This is a song that she's done called 595. I just think like Sonic Youth, Breeders, even like Magic Dirt, just those really grungy, there's definitely a kind of a grungy Nirvana type vibe to it as well. I really like her stuff and she's only 20 years old, so my goodness, how huge is she going to be? She's incredible. 

Happy birthday. 

Yeah, and that's it for this week. That's it. So yeah, Dave Grohl's got a teenage daughter. All of the people that we loved and respected and thought were young and now old and have kids. 

Yeah. 

You know, and some of them not so respected because they've got illegitimate ones as well. But that's fine. We've reached the end of the show for this week. 

Actually, back to the **** for a second. 

Oh, yeah. 

So if there is... 

Anytime. 

If it's been banned and it hasn't been banned. Does this mean now that the **** supermarkets are going to become popular again? Kind of like ripping and burning CDs, are we going to start going back to the adult shops to go and buy them on the DVDs? Yeah, because I mean, are we going to come full circle there like with the CDs? 

I know, like what's the online equivalent of having a hat with a brim pulled right down in a trench coat? What's that? Like, I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. 

I just had that thought because I was only thinking the other day, geez, those adult shops in Fishwick must be on hard times with things like OnlyFans and the internet. Like, wouldn't they have been ****** *** when the internet started with all the ****? 

That's a great name for an adult shop. Hard times. 

But I was thinking about that. You know, even the free cappuccino is not going to get people through the door anymore. So, you know, but maybe it will go full Maybe they're having a big week now that's been banned. 

I think it'll be good for your cardio because like, you know, if somebody arrives home and you're watching, you know, physical media, if you've got like a DVD in a DVD player or worse yet a VHS. 

Oh gosh. You know, that's risky. 

You've got to move pretty quickly when you hear like the car rock up in the driveway. 

I've got to be pretty good, don't they? 

Yes, the car's leaving the driveway though this week. That's the end of the show. I think we've taken it to the depths. 

Oh, well, you know what? Next week, I think we're actually talking about a celebrity. 

Really? How appropriate. 

Yes, lovely. 

We've done it all this week, really. 

The babies is Coachella. 

Yep. 

Oh, yeah, *****. 

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