Natasha Bedingfield goes global with unwritten, fresh start vibes

Rewind to 30 April to 6 May 2006 — where billionaires are buying feelings in Cubist form, governments are controlling the weather (casual) and your main character moment has a full soundtrack.

🎨 $95 million for a vibe
Picasso’s Dora Maar with Cat sells for an eye-watering $95 million, instantly becoming one of the most expensive artworks ever. It’s moody, distorted and just a little bit unsettling — much like Picasso himself. The buyer? A mystery. The energy? Pure pre-GFC “money is a concept” chaos. 

🌧️ Government said… let there be rain
China goes full weather boss mode, using cloud seeding to literally make it rain. Rockets, chemicals, entire regions targeted — not science fiction, just mid-2000s policy. Cue global side-eye about whether you can accidentally steal someone else’s rain. 

🎤 Main character energy unlocked
Natasha Bedingfield’s Unwritten is everywhere — radio, TV, your inner monologue. It’s giving fresh start, new chapter, The Hills voiceover before The Hills even fully Hills-ed. Not heartbreak, just ✨possibility✨ in song form. 

🎸 Sad indie goes… stadium
Snow Patrol drop Eyes Open and suddenly your niche emotional band is everyone’s emotional band. Chasing Cars incoming, feelings unavoidable. This is the exact moment indie stops being indie and starts soundtracking your entire life. 

🌶️ RHCP said “make it double”
Red Hot Chili Peppers release Stadium Arcadium — a 28-track, chart-topping, Grammy-scooping flex. Funk roots, polished chaos and absolute confidence. When CDs were still king, this felt like getting your money’s worth… and then some. 

🚐 Family bonding… but make it traumatic
Robin Williams leads RV, a road trip comedy where everything that can go wrong absolutely does. Sewage mishaps, forced fun and peak “dad trying too hard” energy. Critics? Meh. Your Sunday afternoon rewatch? Locked in. 

🎤 From Scream to… rap career??
Jamie Kennedy launches MTV’s Blowin’ Up, chasing a rap career with MySpace-era hustle and celebrity cameos. It’s chaotic, self-aware and deeply 2006 — including a track featuring Bob Saget because… why not.

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The year is 2006. We head to the hills and learn reality is scripted. Your Sony Cyber Shot uploads 462 blurry regrets. A Facebook poke makes everything complicated. And Twitter's like, cool story, you've got 140 characters. Go. T-minus 20. Rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Week 30 April 2006. 

T-minus 20. Bringing the sexy bag. I want to forgive you. 

T-minus 20. I hate this long distance relationship. And I want to forget you. 

You have no style or succession. This is a beauty. 

This is very nice. Yeah, boy. 

You ever wondered what the world was obsessed with? This exact week, 20 years ago, not just the headlines, but the songs that were on repeat, the movies in the cinemas and the moments that everyone was talking about at work, school or in line at Blockbuster. 

I read a tweet today that actually said, Blockbuster would heal the world. That's what we need. to reopen Blockbuster and have people come in. look around, think about their entertainment, work a little bit for it, and then take it home. Now this instant gratification. 

Right. 

Bring back the blockbuster and the world will heal. 

Make it a better place for you. Maybe that could be our entire human race. Sure. 

You know, our slogan is rewind 20 years, this is T-minus 20. We are looking at the same week in the mid 2000s, the week of 30 April to 6th of May 2006, and we're going to relive it like it's happening in real time, one story, one chart topper, and one very specific big cultural moment at a time. 

With your hosts, Joe and Mel. 

This is a rare and rather unique opportunity for collectors on the market today. It hasn't been seen in the public for over 40 years. And it will be presented at New York at Sotheby's on the 3rd of May. And the estimate is in the region of $50 million. 

Fifty $1,000,000, that was a very civilised conversation in regards to a very expensive painting that we will talk about in the news. You're rolling with Bob Saget. 

I was rolling with Bob Saget this afternoon, and... beautiful little unearthing. This is something I've never seen before, and I just had a little moment this afternoon with Bob Saget on a rap track. 

There won't be a whole bunch of people listening to this podcast, full stop, but under 40 that wouldn't even know who Bob Saget is. Oh, it's just such a beautiful moment. 

We'll talk more about that. No one else can speak no words on your list. 

It's just stuff in words I'm spoken. Live your life with I'm wide open. Today is where your book begins. 

The rest is still. 

Celebrate with your sisters on some kind of sisterhood thing. 

The rest is still unwritten. 

What was that from? 

The soundtrack to starting over and also the soundtrack The Hills. 

Oh, that's right. That's where I remember it from. 

The hills. But the single itself was blowing up on the charts this time 20 years ago. Watch the video clip to this as well. And Natasha Bedingfield. Wow, her makeup and her outfit. So early 2000s, but just... Just beautiful. 

What's the hills? Beautiful. Beautiful people as well. Not much underneath the exterior, but a very polished exterior on a lot of those people. 

I finally moved out of the early 2000s with my makeup because I was still doing the same thing I was doing. I've still got some makeup from the early 2000s that I'm still using. I'm sure it's fine. Still works, you know. I haven't got any rashes, really. 

No, you look great. Anyway, there's definitely been no negative side effects. 

Well, I've been drawn. No, I've changed. 

I've switched my words very carefully. 

I've switched things up, probably not so much. makeup, more skin care. I've been sucked into the whole Korean skin care thing and sucked in probably five years too late. I think it was a thing during COVID. 

People really got into it. At least you haven't been sucked in from a surgical point of view. Do you know what I mean? 

No, maybe I need to be. But I finally dabbled because a colleague of mine. 

Was not in the surgery. 

No, in the Korean skin care. 

In the Korean skin care. 

Yes. 

What is Korean skin care? 

A colleague of mine was on the Microsoft Teams and their photo popped up. I thought, wow, that looks so glamorous. And then they popped up and I'm like, you are looking gorge. What's going on? She was just glowing. 

Yeah. 

And then we had, we said, you know, drop the skin care routine. And she's like, oh, I don't know. if I'm gay. Couldn't give away the secret herbs and spices. She's like, you're going to think that I might be a little bit OTT because It's mapped out because she went down the rabbit hole during COVID. 

Of Korean skin care. 

Of Korean skin care. So she's got it all mapped out. She's got pictures of the products. She's got the AM routine, the PM routine. The PM routine rotates throughout the week. It's about a million products. She's like, I'll drop it only if you promise not to laugh or mock me. 

I don't think you'd be in a position to. I think this, the Korean stuff is on trend. K-pop. It is the good gear. Really. 

So she drops it and she's. She drops the Korean skin care routine via PDF. And it's the name of the PDF is colleague's name, Insane Skin Care Routine. So she set it up as, look, I know it's a lot. And so I had ChatGPT do a routine for me. And I dropped her routine into ChatGPT. And I'm like, mate, can you tell me, you know, like, what's the go here? Can you compare her routine to my routine? 

You've run the AI across it. 

Yeah, just for a second opinion. 

A second set of AIs. Yeah. 

ChatGPT is gone. Yeah, wow. That is a bit over the top. She's not lying. That is insane. 

Is that how ChatGPT talks? Kind of, yeah. The bit of a voice that you have in your head. Yeah, wow. 

It's a little bit. Yeah, mate, that is a bit over the top. I think it's words were, that's a bit extra. Extra, right. But then it goes, no, there's some stuff that you can definitely map in. So it's picked the things that I'm not already doing. She can't mix up your acids and things because I don't know. Different acids and you've got to rotate them and you've got to then put barriers on so your skin doesn't fall off. So it's mapped it. And guess what it's given me? Snail goop. 

Right. 

That's part of Korean skin care. I'm now like snail. 

Sorry, what sort of acid are you on? 

It's like snail mucus or something. And you put it on and it's like slimy snail snot. 

It's like having snails crawl over your face. 

Yeah, so is it? Do we get anything? Have I got that glow, that snail glow? 

Yeah. Oh, like the silver there, like it's like the criss-crossing silver trails all over your phone. I don't know, you have to turn the lights off and set it up. 

Well, think back to early 2000s and it was just like, you know, put a bit of hairspray on to hold your makeup on, that was about it for skin care. 

Yeah. 

So things have changed. 

And some things stay the same, like the hatches, matches, and dispatches clue for the part of the show that we do at the end and the little hooking thing that we do at the beginning, which we're going to do right now. So what do we got this time? Was it a birthday? 

Oh, I think it's a birthday, yes. 

Just a birthday for hatches, matches, and dispatches. Just a birthday. 

Birthday's important. 

Not a match, not even a dispatch. Nothing. Okay, well it was a celebrity having a birthday who said this? 

The whole terminology of bow selector is something that you'd say to a DJ. So the selector is the DJ and A bow was a time of endearment to the DJ in a club. So if the DJ played a song that you liked, you'd go, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, be like, it'd be like almost pandemonium, the way that you're just feeling, you're trying to show this love. 

What's that what it means? 

Bow selector. 

I had no idea. 

Well, now you do. So you've learned something now, and you're going to learn who that is at the end of the show. 

May 2006. Oh, is that Star Wars Day, May the 4th? 

Yeah, May the 4th. 

Do we need to acknowledge that? 

May the 4th. 

Do we need to pause and acknowledge? 

Yes, and then tomorrow's Revenge of the Fifth. 

Great. 

Yeah, you don't. Yeah, it's fine. All right. Look, I'm okay with it. It's just a marketing thing. Like, I think I've just been so saturated by Star Wars that I just let the May the 4th thing just kind of wash over me. 

Oh, you just ignore it. 

Yeah, like you used to. 

I thought I had to show some respect or something. 

Just post a picture on Facebook and stuff and maybe watch some Star Wars and like, to be honest with you, I just couldn't be f***ed. 

So, yeah. All right, let's talk culture and art instead, darling. 

I was going to say live in the now, but we don't do that on this show either. So, yeah. In the 20 years ago. Let's talk about ultra and cart from 20 years ago. What? 

Picasso. Picasso, darling. 

I just did like a Picasso with words then. You did, yes. 

Just all over the shop. 

It's appropriate. 

Very colourful. 

You say Picasso. I say Picasso. 

Yes, drooping a bit in places. The Dora Ma with cat. 

Yes. 

Sorry, I forgot the with cat. 

Yes. 

Dora Ma with cat is a Picasso, apparently. And it's features Dora Ma and a cat. It sells for $95 million, one of the most expensive paintings ever sold at. 

Right. We heard the grab at the start of the show. 

Well, he thought only 50 mil. 

The first time it was going to see the light of day and they were all speculating, 50 mil and look at that, a whopping $95 million for a painting. 

That's like the first season of The Block when they thought they weren't going to make much money and they made like five times as much. And it's pretty good. Very exciting. And then that never happened again. 

It's not bad for some abstract painting, but it is a Picasso or a Picasso. 

Is that how you say it? You say Picasso. 

I don't know. I say Picasso. 

I like to put the **** in Picasso. 

Yes, I'm from Australia. I'm from Down Under, so it's Picasso. 

Yeah. 

And Dora Ma. Dora Ma was Picasso's muse. 

Yes. 

Yeah, her muse. I'm starting to sound like Dave. He is. 

You are a bit. 

No, Dora Ma was Picasso's muse. He loved her deeply and did a lot of paintings of Dora. This one was one that hadn't seen the light of day for quite some time. You know, the style, obviously, the cubist distorted features, And then there's a small black cat perched on her shoulder, as you do. Very iconic and a little bit, a little bit unsettled. 

I had a little, yeah, half of her face was kind of a bit lower than the other half. 

Yes. And then she's got a cat on her shoulder too. 

Be a little bit offended if I was Dora, to be honest. 

Yeah, well, she was very inspiring to Picasso. He put her on a pedestal, quite literally, I guess. He did love her dearly. She was an artist as well, Dora. Dora was, not just a muse. Like, you're an artist. but you're also like my muse. 

Am I? 

Yeah. 

Are you gonna paint me in a cat? 

No. I can if you want. We don't have a, I don't have a cat. We'd have to get a cat to model. I'm not a great painter. I'm good at, oh, I'm okay painter. 

You're good if you've got the lines. 

I'm good at painting. 

If there's lines and you're going in the lines, you're good at that. 

Well, I painted the study the other day and I did a pretty good job of that. 

You stayed in the lines. 

No, tell us more about their relationship. 

What was their relationship? 

I'll pay you a compliment. Matt just went to utter ****. Sorry. That's okay. Well, there was very intense. It was quite complicated. Two artists, you know, two creative forces colliding. 

Tricky sometimes. 

In an explosion of passion and all of that sort of stuff. And the cat, the cat in the picture, the cat in the picture was a symbol of unease or tension. They were talking about their own emotional tension. Picasso's portrait of her often showed emotional tension, as did the cat. and it was painted during Nazi-occupied Paris. 

So it's hard looking intense and emotional. 

Well, I guess so. It's hard to read the expression on Picasso paint. 

Or a cat. 

Yes, in spite of the fact that, well, yeah, the cat was unsettled. And my cats generally are. I mean, anytime you look a cat in the eye. Yeah. They don't like it. No, it's like, I'm going to ******* kill you. That's what the cat looks at you. 

I wonder if he had the cat pose, because the cat wouldn't have sat still for that long. 

I don't think so. 

No. 

I don't think so. And yeah, maybe that's why it's the kind of shape it is. Maybe it's moving around. Yeah. But this is big. This is like one of his most famous subjects in a painting, hitting the market, going out for auction for anybody, for the highest bidder. Anyone who's got the cash can take this home. it's a big deal. Big deal. So this is the second highest auction price ever at the time for a painting, which really reflected that boom in the art market. Lars from Metallica, he was collecting paintings at the time. Yes. 

Oh, he could afford it. 

Yeah. Yes, that's right. That's why the Napster thing didn't go down too well, because he's like, oh, well, don't buy my music. And do you want to come and see my really expensive paintings? 

Yes, not a good look. 

And that's not fair. The optics is fine. Like he made the music. He deserves to be paid for. 

Yes, But I can see why people would have got a bit. 

Yeah, the optics like this. 

But the buyer, the buyer was very mysterious. Initially anonymous. Nobody knew who this buyer was who coughed up the 95 mil. 

Was it Lars? 

It was later linked to Roman Bramovich. Remember Roman? We spoke about Roman. He bought Chelsea Football Club. 

Chelsea, yeah. 

2003, I think. we talked about that three years ago on the podcast. Never proven, though. It was just very strong gossip at the time that it was him. He was the Russian billionaire and he was a high-profile investor, had lots of money. 

Probably found something down, found 100 million down the back of the couch. 

Oh, yeah, look at that. So this is, you know, pre-GC. 

Hang it up in the Chelsea dressing room. 

Lots of money, lots of, and art was becoming in the early 2000s a bit of a trophy for billionaires. You know, a lot of the celebrities, a lot of it's like instead of. 

Putting the money in the bank, we invest in the artwork and then display the money on the wall in the house like a trophy. 

Yes, but we never knew for sure whether it was Roman. It's currently listed as being in a private collection. Hasn't resurfaced publicly, hasn't been resold that we know of. And often with these high value artworks, they're either hanging in the home of the owner. 

That's right. 

Or they're in vaults or they're in tax-friendly storage. 

Yes, see, there you go. 

So even if you had bought it, we probably would never know for sure. It's probably hidden away somewhere. 

Like what was that movie? What was the movie with the later, the Christopher Nolan film where they were like dilating time and all of that sort of stuff? Or Tenet, Tenet where they were in there. Oh, that one, that was very confusing. That was stored in all of those vaults and whatnot. Yes, that just reminded me of the artworks and the storage. I don't really care for them. discussing the film right now. Anyway, let's go on to some more news over in China where they have created artificial rain. 

Oh, we've got fake weather news. 

That made it rain. 

Not just fake news, fake weather news. Great. 

The rain in China. Upper Mongolia falls mainly in the whole year. Yeah, it's raining in China. They created artificial rain using a thing called cloud seeding. 

Local officials say they launched 258 rockets and used airplanes to spray dry ice and liquid nitrogen in the atmosphere. China spends millions of dollars every year on the world's largest cloud seeding program, using it frequently to mitigate drought and to clear the skies of dust and pollution just like they did before the Beijing Olympics. More than 130 countries around the world have similar weather modification programs, but China makes the biggest claims about its capabilities. Some countries make rain to help ease water shortages, some to prevent flooding, and others to prevent hail from forming. There is evidence that cloud seeding can cause some increase in rain if the right clouds under the right circumstances are chosen. But just how broadly it can be applied, well, that remains a matter of debate. Jennifer Delgado, And then, Atlanta? 

Oh, thank you, Joe. Don't interrupt. Sorry, I nearly missed my cue there. The floor manager's very upset. Yes, well, the Chinese were saying it worked. They were saying cloud seeding worked. I mean, what is it? It's like, okay. 

They shoot things into the clouds. 

It hasn't rained here for a while. Let's shoot the **** out of some clouds. Let's go to war with the sky. I mean, what, in 2006, going to war with the sky sounds absurd, but in 2026, if a certain world leader stood up or tweeted like, We're going to war with the sky, I'd be like, Oh, well... 

That's a better option right now. 

What else is next? I mean, it's just I wouldn't even bat an eyelid is what I'm trying to say. 

China was shooting rockets and artillery shells, aircraft into the clouds. I think it was silver iodide particles. 

Yeah, that's essentially what I think they use for cloud setting is like silver iodide up into the sky and then they act like little nuclei that form water droplets that then fall as rain. 

But it's not creating clouds from scratch. It's just forcing the clouds to rain sooner or in a different spot, I think is what happens. 

Yes, like, oh, there's a cloud, quick fire. Go. Yeah. 

And as Jennifer mentioned, it relieves drought conditions in key agricultural regions, through water supply. 

Allegedly. 

Yes, these are the benefits on the discussion paper, reduces the impact of dust storms and pollution. And I think that's why China was doing, was clearing out some dust. and part of a broader push to manage natural resources at scale. This wasn't the first time that it was done, though. It wasn't the first time like 50 years ago. 

It was done in the 40s. 

But the reason that this one was so widely covered and everyone was really excited because no one had done it at the scale that China had. Next level. Bit extra. 

Yeah, they have they like stood up a weather modification department. 

Bit insane. Yes, and they targeted entire regions. the one time. 

I mean, that's, I mean, we call the Bureau of Meteorology the bomb, but that's ridiculous. 

And there was the government, the government were in control of the weather. 

Yes. 

And so it wasn't just an experiment, it was a policy level intervention. 

It was very serious. 

There would have been papers. There would have been papers and committees. 

Stand up in a discussion paper just to see if it's going to rain in Mongolia. 

Lots of PowerPoints and presentations. Goodness me. They, and Jennifer mentioned that as well, too. They even did it ahead of the Beijing Olympics, but that was to stop the rain before the Olympics. So they're probably shooting the clouds off. 

Is that the same methodology? I don't know. Do they just threaten the clouds with the rockets and hope that they turn around? 

I have no idea. It is a little controversial though. So the effectiveness of it has been debated. Does it actually create rain or is it just taking it from somewhere else and maybe somewhere else that needs the rain as well? 

It's just a useless excuse to fire off a bunch of rockets. I mean, you shouldn't really need an excuse to let off rockets. They're very fun. They are. 

And the environmental impacts, not too sure if there is any consequences of firing chemicals up into the cloud. 

Up in the sky. 

Yeah, might not be the best idea. And do you want your government modifying the weather systems? 

I don't know. Not sure. It depends. Like, what do you want to modify? Like, it's like, I don't even want to like a couple of little cloud bursts here and there, but I don't want like a full-blown hurricane. 

But maybe a bit of snow in winter would be nice. Maybe snow at Christmas time, just a one-off. 

In Australia, on the beach. 

Yeah, just a one-off, like Christmas, just for once. China, if you're listening. 

Goodness me. China, if you're listening, they're listening to everything. Over to the charts now. 

UK chart still Niles Barkley with Crazy. Same #1 here in Australia, Rihanna. 

So ask, please someone help me. It's not healthy for me to feel this and why. Oh, you are making this hard. You got me tough and turning can't sleep at night. 

It's time, please someone come and rescue me. YOUR You're you're in. 

Apostrophe RE. 

Come on. Apostrophe RE re re. 

Over to the US. 

Your life with I'm wide open today is where your book begins the rest is still un return got you got you got what it takes to make this boy be it's hard to control myself it's hard to control myself yeah would you know I'm You don't mind, yeah, I don't want my mind, yeah I got the right temperature fishes to you from the storm Hold on, girl, I got the right tactics to turn you on And girl, I wanna be the papa, you can be the mom 'Cause you had a bad day, you're taking one down You sing inside a song just to turn it around You say you don't know, you tell me don't lie. 

That's a big 2000s chart at the moment. It's a roller coaster. There's a lot of big chart 2000, early 2000s. 

Big iconic. 

Yeah, big songs in there at the moment. 

And then you've got a little Cool J. 

Hang on a second. 

Cool J is very 90s. 

Ladies love Cool Js. 

Late 80s. I don't know. if it belongs in 2006. 

Sure he does. 

Daniel Powder, bad day number one, Sean Paul, temperature #2, what you know, TI, which is growing on you, isn't. 

It? What you know about that? That's what I say to your comments about LL Cool J. He's going to knock you out. 

He's in there at #4 control myself. 

He's been there for years. 

With JLo. Okay, look, next week we will talk about that song because it's still on the charts next week. And I'm going to get you to go to the end, probably the end 30 seconds of that song. And I'm going to get you to grab the end 30 seconds of that song. And then I want you to tell me if you still feel the same way about LL Cool J. You're going to get the last 30 seconds and we will discuss next week. 

All right, well, all right. That means I have to prepare something. 

Okay. But this is what we want to talk about. Number 5, unwritten, Natasha Bedingfield. 

I can't listen to that song without thinking of that with Spencer Pratt. 

And his crystals. 

Yeah, like with his bleached teeth, you know, sticking a crystal against his forehead to calm himself down. 

He's actually, I feel like he's grown up, he's matured. Into what? I don't know, I saw. 

Like a full-blown stalactite. 

I saw this thing. No, like Sirius now. I think they were involved in the fires. Was it last year? 

Oh, the California fires. 

Last year, yes, thank you, Sirius. And he spoke very well about, because I think there was some controversies in the area that contributed to the fires. I don't know the ins and outs. 

It's dangerous for them too, because plastic is highly flammable. 

I'm not going to comment. Heidi brought out a single to raise money as well. Speaking of plastic. 

Yeah, right. 

But he spoke, he spoke very well. I watched about a three-minute tirade from Spencer, but he was very articulate. 

Must have been wearing his speaking crystal at the time. Anyway, I can't, that's all. 

I'm very impressed with him. 

See what I mean? We're supposed to be talking about. 

Remember the Natalan wife swap? 

Oh, that was great. 

Yeah, we should. 

That was very funny. It's just, yeah, they were very funny. 

Okay, but back to Natasha. 

But that's what I mean. Like, we can't, you hear that song now. It is just imprinted. It's imprinted on you in the form of that show. The hills. 

The hills. 

Yeah, or for me anyway. Other people probably like, what's the hills? What's a Spencer? Who are these? Who's Crystal? That's a name in an Australian name, isn't it? Crystal. 

Crystal. 

Remember when they were Crystal with a K. Early 2000s was Crystal with a K. Yeah, that's definitely. 

And then Crystal. 

Yeah, both of them sound like Big Brother contestants. 

Crystal. Straight out of the game. 

Bedingfield. Let's do it. 

Natasha, she is the sister of Daniel who sang, Gonna Get Through This. 

Oh, remember that song. Not in that way, but I know the song that you taught. Based on the words, the lyrical content of whatever that was that you did. 

English siblings, but obviously this song blew up in the US because of the hills. 

Yeah. 

Upbeat pop with self-empowerment tones, undertones, blank page vibes. 

Open up the dirty window. 

Your future isn't set, you get to write it. Big sing-along chorus. 

The rest is still unwritten. 

It's a motivational speech, but in bop form, basically. 

In bop form. 

Yes. Motivational, but make it a bop. 

Yeah, right. 

And it was a little different at the time. She doesn't really speak at the start, but her voice, her singing is almost spoken word. It starts off something, I can't remember what the words are, but it sounds almost like she's speaking. She is singing, but it sounds like she's almost speaking. And that's speaking over the music. is very hills adjacent. You have the internal dialogue thinking and you're saying it out loud over the music. Very Lauren Conrad voice over. 

It kind of builds because it's like, and then I went to Spencer's and he pulled out his crystals and Heidi got a **** *** over to somebody else's place and then we pretend that we are talking but we're actually acting and you know and it just keeps building. Yeah. The whole thing is scripted. Yeah. 

Give the radio and TV rotation. And even though it was the theme song of the Hills, it was used on many a TV and movie montage as well. 

Oh yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. 

New beginnings, main character energy. This is my moment. 

I think I saw it at the end of Friday Night Football and they're doing a montage of tries. Great try. How good would that be if they put it to the rugby league? 

It's it hit hard because it's not about heartbreak or drama. It's about possibility. 

Yeah. 

And it was used a lot, not just in TV and movies, but for graduation, breakups, dry recess. 

Benny Elias covered in mud, holding up in a Balmain uniform, holding up the Winfield Cup. The rest is still unwritten. It just really works. 

Possibly, possibly. It has had a resurgence. of recent years, particularly through TikTok. It's massive on the nostalgia playlists. 

Did it ever go away? 

Probably not. Movies. I was running one day and I was finishing my run and it came on just as I was. 

Were you inspired? 

I was. I can still feel like it takes me right back. I was running around in the Tuggeradong area and I'd finished my run and I was starting to slow down and then it came on. 

Did you open up the dirty window? 

Did you release your inhibitions? I did, and I felt the rain. It wasn't raining, it was sunny actually, but I did my stretches. I was very emotional. I had a little moment with Natasha Bettingfield. Yeah, it was good. It was good. I just needed some crystals. I wish I had calm me down. 

I would have liked that. I'd rather see that than Spencer Pratt sticking a crystal against his head every time I hear the song. 

We had a couple of big album releases as well this week, 20 years ago. Snow Patrol's release, Eyes Open. 

If I lay here, if I just lay here, would you lie with me and just forget the world? 

It's another Top Yourself Tuesday on T-minus 20. I just, man, I don't know. It's just, that was such a big song. 

Yeah. 

And it was used for so much emotional stuff on current affairs shows and breakfast television and just drama series like a bit. Tonight on McLeod's Daughters, Tess has an affair with the Silos. 

If I lie here. 

Anyway, yeah. 

No, it was usually death. It wasn't for romance. I don't think it was romance. 

Was it? I don't know. 

It was where it was famously used was Grey's Anatomy. One of the season finals, season one or season 2. No, one of the big main characters died. Was it Denny or was it McDreamy or McSteamy? I think they all pretty much died by the end of it. One of them died. And they use that in the death bit. It's very emotional. 

McSteamy's cactus. Yes, he's... 

So when he got hit by the bus, didn't he get, one of them got hit by a bus? 

Oh, did they? On Gray's Man. 

And then maybe he's lying there. I don't know how it unfolded. I never watched past. 

It's a shame that didn't happen in the Hills. 

The album is the second album, the follow-up to the album Final Straw. This one's called Eyes Open. It had that song. It had You're All I Have and Hands Open. One of the best-selling albums of 2006. 

Chasing Cars. There's another song called Chasing Cars. 

That was that one, wasn't it? 

Is that what that's called? 

That was that song. 

Is that Chasing Cars? 

Yes. I think it is. 

I never knew that was called Chasing Cars. Yeah, you're probably right. So I reckon it's about dogs. 

Maybe. 

Yeah, that makes sense. Tonight on Bondi Vet. 

If I lay here. If I just lay here. 

A Labrador has his **** glands expunged. Will Dr. Chris be able to survive the stench? Stay tuned. 

Massive hit in the UK and did well in the US as well. It's that whole sad indie goes mainstream. There was a lot of that. Yeah, like the beautiful James Blunt. There's a lot of whingy, whingy music. 

Yeah, like that. Stay tuned and find out if this cat really does have 9 lines. Sorry, I'm just getting carried away now. Snow Patrol. 

Cemented them as global stars. 

Did it? 

Another big studio album released. 

That's the song that I really know them from. 

Yeah, me too. I don't really know any of the others. 

I guess that's all they needed because it was on TV. They would have got paid a fair bit of money in 2006. Anyway. 

This album is the 9th studio album for Red Hot Chili Peppers, Stadium Arcadium. 

The Chili Peppers, they are just like, well, they're a classic rock band now, aren't they? 

When did Chili Peppers become classic? I hate that. I didn't hate, but I didn't really like that song or that album at the time. It has grown on me because it's in the, it's on the Club Lime rotation. And it's also in Woolworths Radio. So Club Lime Radio and Woolworths Radio have a bit of crossover with their playlists. 

That's a big scandal, isn't it? And Junction is Red Hot Chili Peppers. 

Yeah. I don't mind that song these days. It has grown on me while I'm buying Devon or doing a squat. 

Really. 

Yeah, it's good. Not at the same time. No, This was their first ever #1 album in the US. Can you believe that? 

Isn't that a fact? 

Yeah, it's just a #9. 

I feel like they're going to be like that generation's like, I don't know, I mean, it's a big cold. They're just like the new classic stadium rock band, you know. Well, that's why it's been a stadium arcade. They're getting a bit long in the two. Red Hot Chili Peppers. They sing a lot of songs about California. Well, two at least. 

Two big ones, yes. That is a lot. Yeah. This was a double album. There was a Jupiter disc and a Mask disc, 28 tracks, funk rock roots, polished radio friendly kind of sound. 

Radio friendly, yeah. 

Kind of, we're doing whatever we want. Don't give a toss. But early 2000s, we're still buying CDs. So the concept of a double CD really felt premium and like you were getting a good deal. And sometimes you expect with the double CDs, Not this one. This one was pretty good. 

The whole way through. 

Fans, well, not me personally, but fans did actually really like it. They felt it was consistent. Really good songwriting, really good musicianship right through. 

Yeah, they were headlining big day outs and all of those sort of things at this time, I think, as well. Chili's, like they were still very, they were a big festival band. So they were, and they were insanely popular. Ever since Blood Sugar Sex Magic came out, they were cemented at the top of the charts in a Australia all the time. Australia loves the chili peppers. 

We do, yes. So does Woolworths Radio. 

I mean, there's some really good tie-ins at Woolworths as well when they play the chili peppers. We got a sale on capsicums. Yes. You know. I don't really have anything else, but you know, I'm sure that the creative minds over at Woolworths get paid a lot more to come up with that **** than I do. So there you go. You got one for free. Go and figure it out. Yes, goodness me, I can't be expected to solve all the problems of the world. Over to the big screen, the big screen. Before we hit the small screen, we've got a movie, number one at the US. I think Ice Age was #1 in Australia. We're still watching Ice Age 2. Was it still school holidays? No, that would have been over. A long time ago, maybe. I don't know. Anyway, it's still big over there. But in the US, this Robin Williams film, RV, that stands for recreational vehicle. Daddy, I always want to live here. I'm with you. 

One day you're going to grow up and meet a wonderful guy, and you're going to get married. But you and I will always be best friends. Dad, could you be any more of a dork? What happened to that little girl who used to go, Daddy's home? Cass. 

God, what? 

We watch TV in four separate rooms, and we IM each other when dinner's ready. Well, then let's change things. 

Mom, some idiot just parked this ugly RV outside our house. 

My God, it's your husband. You folks want to join us for breakfast? We'd love to join. Somebody's right. Try to remember, we're not friendly. I've got a never-ending love. Whenever a big white man picks up a banjo, my cheeks tighten. Good news. I'm adopted. Good one. You're just determined to have a bad time, aren't you? 

So this is Robin Williams plays an overworked dad suffering a bit of corporate stress. And instead of going to Hawaii, he cancels that holiday. And he forces the family on a road trip in a rented RV. So they're basically caravanning instead of going to Hawaii. 

Feels very National Lampoon, doesn't it? 

A little bit, a little bit. And I think it was a bit more G rate as well. 

A bit more family family. 

It was okay. It was just a bit of a paycheck. It wasn't like Robin Williams's greatest film. It had, who else did it have in it? Cheryl Hines and Kristen Chenoweth. And it was just one of those, classic 2000 comedies. just real simple, gross out gags, awkward family moments, dad trying too hard sort of stuff. Slapstick, bit of cringe. bit of wholesome redemption lessons at the end. 

I think there was some sewage tanks as well. Of course there was a tsunami. 

You've always got to have a toilet gag with a recreational vehicle. 

Critics were a bit meh. Audiences were like, yeah. Yeah, it's all right. 

Yeah, it's, I mean, everyone loves Robin Williams. 

And family comedies are still big early 2000s and you'd probably get it on the DVD or you'd watch it Sunday afternoon at the movies on one of the free to air channels. Not a classic, but watch, rewatchable, I think. 

Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to watch Robin Williams in a movie that's not that great. 

Yeah. 

You know. 

Yeah. 

Anyway, let's go to the small screen. Let's go to the TV. Because this is this show. Blowing Up. Is that the show? 

Blowing Up. It's an MTV reality series created by Jamie Kennedy. He's an actor, comedian. You probably remember him from the Scream movies. 

He played Randy. 

He's been in a lot of movies, actually. Yeah. Yes. But in this reality show, he is trying to follow his dream of becoming a successful rapper. 

Yes. 

And it was written after the success of the movie he was in called Malibu's Most Wanted. in this show is also his close friend Stu Stone. 

This is a comedy, right? 

Well, it's a reality, it's kind of reality comedy, also scripted. 

Similar to the Tory Spelling thing. 

Yeah, that kind of ilk. But it's kind of cool. From the beginning, he expresses how he doesn't like fellow actor Jason Biggs. Oh yeah. They're both in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Apparently got a problem with Jason and refers to that throughout the episode. They also encounter a lot of different rappers because they're trying to, you know, further their rap career. 

They need mentors, peers. 

Ice-T, need to rub shoulders with the Mike Jones. They perform with Three Six Mafia. 

Really. 

But I. My favorite, and I didn't know this until today, they had a guest appearance from Bob Saget of what's it called? 

Full House. 

Full House. 

America's Funniest Time videos. 

Full House fame. He's also a comedian. But they release an album off the back of this show. And on the album is a song called Rollin' With Saget. 

He blew the smoke off the tip of his gun, Bob Saget. ***** you better act someone. 

That's about all we can play of that. It gets pretty out there. 

Yes, Bob gets pretty out there. 

That's the juxtaposition of, you know. 

The dad on Full House didn't watch. Do yourself a favour and watch the video clip, Roland with Saget. It was just the joy I didn't know that I needed today, and I'll be watching it again. Paris Hilton was in the video clip. The Star Wars guy was in the clip. 

Did these guys sort of blow up on MySpace a little bit before? 

I think, yes. I think they, well, I think they were putting their raps on MySpace. On MySpace. And I think an executive producer at Warner Brothers saw their raps on MySpace. 

It reminds me a lot of the Lonely Island. Remember the Lonely Islands? 

Oh, they were there on the MySpace or Facebook, weren't they? 

Yeah, sort of comedy raps on a boat, sort of that sort of stuff. Yeah. 

Similar kind of thing. 

Look, there's room for everyone. That's fine. 

But look it up. It's great. 

Quick one this week. Hatches, matches and dispatches time. Of course, let's the Herald. I believe we were discussing a celebrity having a birthday who said this? 

The whole terminology of bow selector is something that you'd say to a DJ. So the selector is the DJ and bow was a term of endearment to the DJ in a club. So if the DJ played a song that you liked, you'd go like, bow, bow, bow, bow, be like, it'd be like almost pandemonium the way that you'd say feeling, you're trying to show this love. 

If you said... Greg David. Beau Selector. You're correct. I never knew that's what it meant until I heard an explanation. Because then there was the show, and I think he was actually referring to that show, Beau Selector, where they, over in the UK, where they had like this dude in a mask with a big chin that was made to look like Craig David, and he kind of took the **** out of him. 

That was a dark time for Craig David. 

Craig David didn't like that. 

No, he didn't, because he was taking, it was very, it was quite rude. I saw a bit of an episode. It was very mean. 

Sort of bullied you. 

Very mean to Craig David. And he's lovely. He is so lovely. I sat in the car park at Aldi for 20 minutes one day. 

Talking to Craig David. 

Not talking to Craig David. Craig David was being interviewed. 

Because that would be because of the concern. 

I was on the phone to Craig David. 

I don't see. 

No, I wasn't. 

Yeah, okay. 

Remember the guy that looked like Craig David at the pub? 

Every time we walked past, we'd go, there's Craig David. Yes. He's just spitting image of him. 

He was, but nobody else seemed to think that. Nobody else even looked sideways at him. And we're just like, oh my God, it's Craig David. 

And they're like, who's Craig David? And it's like, that guy. Yes. 

I wonder what happened to him. I haven't seen him around. 

Who knows? 

Interesting. No, I was listening to an interview with Craig David. It was on the radio. was on the radio and I was in the Aldi car park and I made our son sit in the car with me because we're supposed to go in to do the groceries. Right. And I was like, no, I'm sorry, we have to stay in the car and listen to this Craig David into, because he was just, he was so compelling. He's just so down to earth. And the way he speaks about his mother was just beautiful. 

He's a bit of a mummy's boy, is he? 

Is. He is. Very humble beginnings. He was born in a very working class area in England. His dad was a carpenter and reg. Oh, he's Jesus. I don't think Jesus was into reggae. 

His dad was a carpenter. 

But not reggae. 

Well, we don't know. I mean, there's no recordings at the time that it's never been documented that he was into reggae, but he could have been. You know. 

His big moment was on the song Re Rewind with Artful Dodger:. 

Rewind when the crowd say bowl, select her rewind, this goes out to all the DJs. 

It's very day spa feeling to it, or Sunday session cocktails. 

Yeah, cocktails. It's not relaxing enough for the day spa. 

Yeah, I reckon. 

It's a bit too janky. 

I don't find the day spa. 

The beat, the beat of it's just a bit. 

Oh, it's too much going on. 

Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I like it, but it's not, it's not one that you're going to get a facial for. 

Just, you're relaxing, you're trying to relax, and then you're like, what the f**k does Bo Selecta mean? 

Yeah, very stressful. He then drops his album, Born to Do It, in 2000, which was a massive success, had hits like Seven Days, Fill Me In. He came to Australia, I remember. We gave away some tickets, but I wasn't allowed to go near him. That's why we were going to do some stuff for the bottom of the morning, for the Monday. We're making love by Wednesday and on Thursday and Friday and Saturday we chilled on Sunday night. 

Yeah, right. You weren't allowed to near him. 

No, I wasn't allowed. I wasn't allowed to say hello. There was a meet and greet, but I wasn't allowed to go. 

Outside his hotel on Monday. 

Have you seen those memes lately where people are like, I can remember what Craig David did every day of those seven days, but I can't remember why I walked into this room. So true. That's me. 

Chilled on. I don't know what day is it. Just chill today. That's fine. 

Chilled on Sunday. 

Oh, many happy returns, Craig David. 

Yes. 

That's the end of the show. We're pretty much done for this week. Like I said, it was a quick one, but it was a good one. Yeah. I think. 

The art story was good and China shooting the clouds. That was good. 

That was interesting, wasn't it? 

Very interesting. 

Didn't offend any. I hope we didn't offend China. 

Might have offended Spencer. 

Oh, sorry. Not sorry. What have we got next week? What's happening next week? 

Has anyone said sorry, not sorry in the last 10 years? 

I don't know. I don't know. Has anyone said ****ing Bo Selector in the last 10 years as well? Like, this is a retrospective show. I think it's perfectly okay. It fits within the parameters of what we're actually set out to do here. 

Are you going to do a not joke next? 

Possibly not. What's going on next week? 

Next week. Oh, Sony's unveiling. Very exciting console, but everyone was like, didn't go as planned. Oh, you're going to get the rest of that song. Oh, it's not in the top five. You're going to get it anyway. I'm sorry, an LL Cool J song now that we've set it up. Nick Lachey's going to stop by. 

Oh, great. g'day, Nick. 

Mission Impossible 3. We'll chat about that as well. 

Tom Cruise is going to stop by as well. 

Stop by and we'll have a lamb roast or something. 

Yeah, possibly. 

That's what's happening. 

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