Axl Rose bites security guard

Rewind to 25 June – 1 July 2006

💰 Buffett drops the biggest tip jar in history
Warren Buffett announced he was giving away most of his fortune, pledging more than US$30 billion to the Gates Foundation. In a world obsessed with getting rich, the Oracle of Omaha casually decided to give it away instead. It was the biggest charitable donation the world had ever seen and kicked off a new era of billionaire philanthropy. 

⚽ The Phenomenon strikes again
Brazil's Ronaldo silenced the critics and broke the all-time World Cup finals goal-scoring record with his 15th goal. If you spent June 2006 waking up at ridiculous hours to watch football on SBS, this one felt huge. Frosted tips, dodgy sleep schedules and peak World Cup fever. 

🎵 Meet me in the mall...
Yung Joc's ‘It's Goin' Down’ was climbing the charts and helping Atlanta's snap music takeover go mainstream. Finger snaps, ringtone rap and simple hooks were becoming the blueprint for the next generation of viral music. TikTok trends before TikTok existed. 

🌹 Axl Rose bites back. Literally.
After a concert in Stockholm, Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose was arrested following an altercation with a hotel security guard. The detail everyone remembers? He allegedly bit the guard on the leg. Chinese Democracy was still nowhere to be seen but Axl was keeping the headlines alive anyway. 

📺 The Adam Sandler movie that made us cry
Click arrived looking like another goofy Adam Sandler comedy about a magic remote control. Then halfway through it blindsided audiences with an existential crisis about ageing, family and wasting your life. Nobody rented this expecting feelings. 

🏡 Neighbours hits 5,000 episodes
Ramsay Street celebrated its 5,000th episode and somehow still had plenty of drama left in the tank. Plane crashes, kidnappings, amnesia and Paul Robinson plotting his latest scheme. Australian television institutions don't get much bigger than this. 

📚 Dad fiction goes feral
Dean Koontz's thriller The Husband had readers hooked with kidnappings, ransom demands and enough landscaping references to apparently upset half of Goodreads. Critics complained about all the plant descriptions. Defenders pointed out the main character was literally a landscaper. Fair. 

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The year is 2006. We head to the hills and learn reality is scripted. Your Sony Cyber Shot uploads 462 blurry regrets. A Facebook poke makes everything complicated. And Twitter's like, cool story, you've got 140 characters. Go. T-minus 20. Rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Week of, 25 June 2006. T-minus 20, bringing a sexy bag. I want to forgive you. T-minus 20, I hate this long-distant relationship! And I want to forget you. Good job! You have no style or sense of session. This is a beauty. This is very nice. Yeah, boys. 

Remember when the internet still made noises, everyone had a favourite browser and the biggest thing Elon Musk was known for was, well, nothing really. Welcome to T-minus 20, the nostalgia podcast that rewinds to the exact same week 20 years ago. Well, not exact because it's 20 years ago. And asks the important questions, why was everyone meeting at the mall? 

How did Axel Rose end up biting a security guard? 

And were we all emotionally manipulated by an Adam Sandler movie? 

The answer is yes, and yes. 

With your hosts Joe and Mel, hello Mel. 

Hello, happy EFS actually. We are rewinding to the 25th of June to the 1st of July. Get those tax returns in, woohoo. 

This guy would have, I don't know if he'd get a big tax return, he probably doesn't even pay tax. 

On June 26, 2006, Warren Buffett.... Bill Gates and Melinda Gates came to New York to make an historic announcement that Warren Buffett was giving $31 billion to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The logical question is why? 

May not have paid taxes, but probably because of all those charity donations, I don't know. Not mutually exclusive things. That's nothing. 

Yes, have you made any charitable donations this year? 

Yes, I'm sort of flailing with the hook for that one. We'll explain it properly in a way that you can easily understand in the news segment coming up shortly. 

But as soon Ronaldo's left it, Ronaldo scores! for the second time in the space of a dozen second half minutes. 

Ronaldo. 

Yes, OG Ronaldo, not the one that the kids know today. OG, he had a very big record this time 20 years ago. 

Yes, and of course it's World Cup, so everyone's doing World Cup stuff, and it was World Cup 20 years ago as well. 

Is this thing even on? Because I can't tell. I think we have a decision to ******* make, and as if I'm supposed to do my job, you're supposed to ******* do yours, Tom's supposed to do his, and whoever else is supposed to do theirs, including the Stupid idiot that keeps blocking the runway over here. 

That was one Axel Rose having a temper tantrum. Yes. 

After years of delays and drama about Chinese democracy, he returns to the headlines for something completely unrelated to music, but entirely on brand. And it's Axel. 

Yeah, it was a very Axel thing. And something that's probably on brand for me is becoming an old wowser and bumbling through things. And something that I got a little bit hung up on. And like, you like words, right? 

I don't mind them. 

You love words. You're really into words. You're good with them. I struggle to find them, I forget them, I misplace them, I don't use the right ones at the right time or the wrong ones at the, I don't know. See, I'm struggling with words, but you like words. 

Oh, yeah, I suppose. 

Yeah, well, do you like new words? 

No. 

There's a lot of new words. I don't understand either. I've been hit with a couple of new words that I've really struggled with. 

Should we try and work them out together? 

I got one the other day that I know, which is unk. Which apparently means old. UNC. 

I thought it meant. Well, I thought it meant unco. Back in my day, it meant unco. Like, you trip over and someone would go, oh, you big unk. No, your unk was unco. 

Really, I didn't realise. 

Back where I grew up, yeah, you were an unk or an unco. Just dependent. 

Do you want to look it up just and see what it means now? Because maybe it doesn't mean right? It doesn't mean old. 

It means old. Because our son was referring to me as an unk and I was like, I haven't tripped over for ages. That's really harsh. And then he's like, No mum, it means old. 

Thanks. 

But I guess in either definition it's probably accurate for me. I am uncoordinated and I am also old. 

Okay. 

I can deal with. 

So the other one I heard was looks maxing. All one word. 

I think the concept... here is kind of like when we chucked gate on the end of every scandal. I think we're starting to chuck maxing on the end of every word. 

Right. 

When you're, I think it's when you do something to the extreme, maybe. 

So what's, oh, so like, so like extreme, that's so 90s, but now it's looks maxing. Yeah, what's Max? What's looks maxing? 

I don't know about looks. 

Can you look that up? 

Maybe that's something to do with makeup. 

Can you look that up? 

Okay, I want that looks maxing. Someone accused me of spoon maxing the other day. That's why it's maxing. 

So you're using the term spoon or you were spooning someone too much. Is there something you need to discuss? 

I wasn't spooning someone. You know the concept to how you have a finite amount of spoons on any given day. 

No. 

And different things take your spoons and your spoons can be depleted. It's kind of like an energy thing. 

It's like your cup, your bucket. Whatever it is, whatever your metaphorical thing is. So it's a metaphor for how much patience you have. 

Yeah, and I think I had my second coffee of the day and I was in a meeting and I was quite animated. So I was accused of being spoon maxing. 

You had too many spoons. 

I was spoon max, I needed to put some spoons back in the drawer. 

Your bucket was overflowing. 

So what are we looking up? Looks maxing. Looks maxing. Looks plural. 

L-O-O-K-S-M-A-X-I-N-G, I believe it is. 

Oh, it's a scale apparently, and it's on Reddit as well. 

A scale? What? 

They're popularized on platforms like TikTok. Focused on aggressively optimizing physical attractiveness. It's broadly, oh, it has categories, okay. It's split into soft maxing, which is everyday grooming, diet and fashion. And hard maxing, the invasive stuff, surgery, steroids, dangerous body modifications. So there's two extremes within the maxing extreme. I don't like that. 

So it's like a movement. 

So soft maxing is things like using skincare routines, teeth whitening, doing your hair. 

Being hygienic. 

Good posture. Just being hygienic. Practicing mewing. Have you heard of mewing? 

What's mewing? Oh, shh. now we're going down a rabbit hole. What is mewing? 

Mewing is a tongue posture. 

A tongue posture. 

I didn't know your tongue had to have posture. 

That's my tongue just went really weird just thinking about it. 

I'm so confused. 

Who does tongue? Tongue posture. 

Tongue posture. I don't know. It's part of this whole maxing thing. 

Okay, there's another, all right, that's weird and I'm not going to ever abide by that. 

I've got one for you. 

Yeah. 

Do you know what cooked means? 

Tired, exhausted, done, finished. 

No. 

That's, well, I've been using it like that. 

Well, you've been using it incorrectly. If a kid says they're cooked, it means they're in serious trouble. 

Oh, really? 

Destined to fail or hopelessly behind? 

Right. He's cooked. 

I'm cooked. 

As in your goose is cooked? Is that like, is that a new spin on an old phrase? 

No, I don't think so, Virgil. 

I mean, They feel dumbed down, those words. Like I feel like there was, 20 years ago, I was thinking about this, like 2006. I'll get to that later on because I think we talk about this in an episode very soon. But it's just, things felt a little bit more culturally dense. Do you know what I mean? And now because everyone's attention span is so short, even with like shortening words and stuff and giving them different meanings in order to explain things that are more elaborate, like cooked, Because it's easier to say, he's cooked, then that young man is in serious trouble. Do you know what I mean? 

Do you know how unk you just sounded? 

I am comfortable in my unkness. Is that, I've probably, people will be cringing at this. 

I don't think we don't cringe anymore. I don't think we use that anymore. 

We don't use that. Well, I'm using it and this is my podcast. Well, it's our podcast, but half of it's mine. And on my half, you can stay over your half. You can use whatever words you want. There's a line right across there, but over this side. 

You're cringing. 

I'm cringing. 

Okay, great. 

Yes. That's right. So I'll cringe over here and you can do whatever you like on your half, but don't just, excuse me, just that's that little piece of corner that your iPad's resting on there is just on my half. I'm just going to move that a bit. It's a Hatches, Matches and Dispatches clue. That's what we're going to do here. We're going to hook through to the segment at the end of the show, Hatches, Matches and Dispatches with a celebrity. Is this a, what is this one? Is this a birth? Another birth. I think we had a birth quite recently, but we've got another one. Well, people are born all the time. so that's, it's not really a revelation as far as that goes. But a celebrity, a celebrity that's having their 20th, their 20th birthday, because they were born in 2006, that said this. 

So grasshopper walks into a bar. And the bartender's like, we have a drink named after you. And the grasshopper's like, you have a drink named Steve. 

That was cute. I like that joke. 

It was a cute joke. We'll find out who that is at the end of the show. 

25th of June 2006, the richest man decides to donate his fortune to charity. 

Is that like, is that like wealth maxing? 

Maybe charity maxing? 

Charity maxing. 

Because he's already wealth maxed if he's the richest man. 

Yeah. 

And he's donating it. He's moving it on to charities. It's probably charity maxing. 

Charity maxing. 

Yeah. 

Cool. 

That's the verb. The official verb, charity maxing. 

I see people, well, it's not charity maxing, actually. It's illegal dumping. If you have a look around those clothing bins, nobody's charity maxing anything there. They're just throwing their **** away, aren't they? 

Yeah. 

That's not charity maxing. 

No, that's not. Warren Buffett. I keep wanting to call him Warren. Buffet. 

Buffet, yes. 

Buffett just sounds so uncouth, but apparently that's how you say it. 

Yeah. 

He announced on the 25th of June 2006 that he was going to donate the bulk of his fortune to charity. pledging almost $31 billion. 

Oh my goodness. 

To the Gates Foundation, as in, oh, Bill, Bill and Melinda. And it wasn't cash that he was giving them. It was Berkshire Hathaway shares, which was his company. So he gave them, yes, just over 30 billion in shares, the largest charitable pledge in the history at the time. and represented around 85% of his wealth. 

Yeah, it's extraordinary. It's an extraordinary donation. It was the biggest, I think it still probably stands as the biggest charity donation of all time. I'd like to think it still stands because that's a crazy amount of money. And I think the cynics would be like, oh, but he gave it to like Bill and what's his wife's name? 

Melinda. 

Melinda Gates. He gave it to their foundation. Like they're the Microsoft people. But it was like, they're philanthropic as well. And that foundation actually does a lot of good stuff. And so their forces combined were like, yeah, look at all. 

Charity maxing. 

Charity maxing, super charity maxing to the max, to the extreme. Yeah. 

Why was Warren so rich? 

Totally rad, dude. 

Wow. You are unk. Why was he so rich? 

Because he was unk. 

He bought great companies and held on to them forever. He initially took control of a struggling textile company called Berkshire Hathaway. 

It's like a collector. He's like, hang on to that. It'll be worth money one day. 

No, he turned it into an investment powerhouse. 

Oh, really? 

And he bought into business that he understood instead of chasing trends. He wasn't a trend maxer. He was a sensible maxer. He bought insurance companies. companies, banks, consumer brands, newspapers, probably not so great now, and food and beverage companies. And his philosophy was to be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful. In other words, buy when everyone else is panicking. 

Oh, right. 

Becoming a millionaire in his early 30s. The majority of his wealth, though, came after he turned 50 because of the investments over the years, decades of investments. And the gains from those investments kept stacking up. 

Oh, well, there you go. On top of each other. He was like, oh, that'll be worth money one day. And he was right. Yeah. Two investors, he was like a prophet. He was like Socrates. They called him the Oracle of Omaha because they treated his advice like a biblical prophecy. And by 2006, he's 75 years old and he's already considered the greatest investor of the 20th century. I think the company Berkshire owned major stakes in companies like you think of big companies in early 2000s, Coca-Cola, American Express, the Washington Post, Geico, So, big companies like that. And at the time, he was one of the richest people on the planet. 

I think he often alternated. 

Oh, with Bill Gates. 

Yes, they were competing. Yes, sometimes one week it was Bill, next week it was Warren. 

Yeah, so they hit him up and they asked him why. 

It's something I've always planned. My wife, Susie, and I had planned that whatever I made would go back to society. And originally, I thought she would outlive me and that she'd make the big decision on it, the manner, but since her death, I had to rethink the best way to get the money into society and have it used in the most effective way, and I had a solution staring me in the face. I'd seen Bill and Melinda do what they have done with their foundation, they've done it with their own money, they've poured themselves into it, the decisions are great, their goals are similar to mine, so, So the time is now. 

And it was. And he did. And $30.7 billion worth of company. 

I think he couldn't be asked starting his own charity, because that sounds like a lot of effort. And he thought, oh, well, they're doing charity well. 

Is it? 

Yeah, I mean, well, they're only a good show over there. I'll just chuck them some cash. 

Well, I think he was like, I didn't get this rich by being good with charity. 

Yeah, exactly. 

I got this rich by being good with investing and holding on to stuff. So he's like, these guys seem to have turned a bit of a corner. Like they're Rich and they do charity. So I'll just take a look at that. 

They do charity well. 

They're charity max. 

It wasn't cash, as we said, or a giant check. And it wasn't immediate either. So it was stocks over time. So he didn't give it all to them all at once. And he had some conditions, some Ts and Cs attached. Bill or Melinda had to remain actively involved. 

Yeah. Do you reckon they read them? You know how it's just like, I agree. $30.7 billion, just scroll down to the bottom. 

Well, Bill strikes me as someone who would read. 

All the Ts and Cs. would have been probably presented in hard copy at this stage in the game. 

Probably in fountain pen. 

Oh, maybe. 

They had to keep giving money away so they couldn't just hoard what he gave them. And the annual spending of the charity had to actually increase. He wanted to see some return on investments. in terms of the charity giving. 

So spending more money on the, not on the charity, the charity was spending more money being charitable. 

Yes. 

Charity maxing. 

Yeah, and then obviously, you know, if I was his kid, I'd be pretty ****** because there's not a lot left for me. But he famously said once that he preferred to leave his children enough money so they can do anything, but not enough money so they can do nothing. 

Right. 

That's wise, isn't it? 

Yeah, sort of. 

That's a good rich parent quote. I like that. 

Yeah, it's always funny when you see, you know, rich parents just going, no, you got to do it the hard way. They're kids. Like, I don't know. This is something better. We all have to. We all have to. It just depends on. I mean, I'm sure for rich kids, they've got problems somewhere, you know. Maybe not. 

No, I don't think so. 

No, there's that. Oh, you know. And we always go back to, money doesn't solve all your problems. I'm like, that's absolute ********. Money solves every single problem that we basically have in this modern day and age. 

And this donation was worth more than the annual budget of many countries' aid programs. Public health experts, because I think that's where a lot of the Gates Foundation charity work was focused. They are immediately dreaming up wish lists of how Bill and Melinda might. That's right. 

They're like, oh, we've got loads of problems that can be solved with money. 

And this was peak. Philanthrocapitalism, they called it. The idea that billionaire business leaders could apply business thinking to solve global problems. 

Yeah. 

And Bill, I think we had mentioned this in a previous episode that he had kind of stepped away from day-to-day Microsoft duties. to focus on more philanthropic pursuits as he was for the tech stuff. So it also shifted public expectations around what ultra-rich people should be doing with their fortunes. And I think we started then looking at all the other richies going, What are you guys doing? Where's your charity? Come on, show us. 

Who's your housekeeper? What you keep at your house? All of that stuff. I mean, but you compare that to now. Like, this is a dude that's pledged 37 billion. You know, it's just, I mean, the majority of his wealth, I mean, but he's still going to live very comfortably because who needs that much money? Nobody needs that much money, but you compare that to 2026. just recently, Elon Musk has become the world's first trillionaire. 

I wouldn't even know how many zeros that is. 

Yeah. 

I wouldn't even know what a trillion looks like written down. 

I don't need to know because it's never going to be something, you know, oh, well, that's going to be a problem that can't be solved by money. 

So Warren's donation would be roughly 3 to 4% of Musk's current fortune. 

Is that all? 

So we're talking about those billions going, that's crazy. That's That's not even 10% of what Musk is worth at the moment. And I think according to, because they did the public offering, the IPO for SpaceX. His wealth increased by more than 60 billion US in a single day. So that was more than that entire donation. Like a single day. 60 billion. 

You could spend $1,000,000 a day every day. 

I think he does. 

Until the day you die. I think he does. How could you spend $1,000,000 a day? Did you ever see that Richard? Did you ever see that Richard Pryor movie, Brewster's Millions, where he didn't inherit the money until he spent the millions or whatever it was? 

Remember that one? I don't think I think my dad hired that from 

the video shop, but I don't think I ever watched it. John Candy in that one? I think he is. Possibly. Great movie. I don't know. Yeah, I just imagine that. It's just that's I just nobody, no human being on the face of the earth needs or should have that much. 

The donation, let's go back to the donation. 

Yeah, that's good. 

Stop wowing for a second. Let's talk about what the donation did. 

Because you think, we talk about, yeah, okay, let's talk about what the donation did. 

It helped to increase the scale of their work in global health, vaccines, poverty reduction, and education. Then in 2010, they together released the Giving Pledge, which encouraged other billionaires to give away most of their wealth. I don't know how many signed up. And his total contributions eventually exceeded 36 billion by 2022. And they did some really good work with that. So it was a good, it was a good thing. 

Yeah. 

Good on him. 

I think he's still alive too, isn't he? No, I think he's passed away. I think he, or if he hasn't, he'd be close to it. Do you want to look, max that up for me? Charity, I don't even know what I'm maxing anymore. 

Yeah, he is still alive. 

No way. 

95 years old. He's active and continues to make commentary on the global financial markets. 

He's age maxing. 

He only he only stepped down recently. I think it was end of last year as CEO of the of Berkshire Hathaway. So we're still working till last year. 

Find out what his take on the current state of billionaires is. Do you know what I mean? 

Well, he said he does say that he often had makes public commentary, so. 

Yeah, I'll have to go and look into that, because I mean, by comparison, I mean, these billionaires feel almost nice, don't they? Nothing like a bit of sport to clear it out. the faculties, the funk and Wagnalls, the mental... whatever it is. 

I don't think it's working. 27th of June 2006. 

Yes. 

OG Ronaldo, our favorite Ronaldo. Ronaldo with the reverse ******. 

Yeah, it's a great hairstyle, wasn't it? 

I can't get past the haircut. He breaks the World Cup scoring record. 

Yes. 

The all-time FIFA World Cup finals goal scoring record. He scored it in the 5th minute of Brazil's 3-0 win over Ghana. And it was his 15th World Cup goal across 3 tournaments, breaking the record that had stood since 1974 from Gerd Mueller. 

Yeah, I was a big fan of the Brazilian soccer team around this time. We were watching the World Cups. and whatnot, thinking that they were always the favourites to win because of Ronaldo. Like he was just phenomenal. He was a great player. And his nickname was The Phenomenon because he was just so extraordinary. And it was interesting because weeks before they were saying, oh, he's a bit chunky. Like, because this was his last, he's had a bit more junk in the trunk. He was packing a bit. 

Had a bit of a badonkadonk, did he? 

Yeah, and like he wasn't, you know, he wasn't by any means, I think, fat, but probably a little bit on the portly side compared to some of the other players on the field. But when you've got the skill and athleticism, the naturally occurring skill and athleticism that gives you the nickname, the phenomenon, who gives a **** about that stuff? 

You can carry if you actually. 

Exactly. 

It's no problem. He also had the knee injuries as well, and I think people thought that might have been the end. I think that, wasn't that why he did the hairdo? Didn't he do the hairdo? to distract the media from his injury. 

Oh, maybe. 

I'm pretty sure it was something to do with that. 

When we spoke about that last time. 

Yeah, to distract them a little bit. 

Genius. It is. And when you see the way the bloke moves on the pitch, is it any wonder his knees get injured? Because he's just, it's like he's made out of rubber, but clearly not. And his knees probably didn't think that either. But just, he was an incredible player to watch. And the goal himself was pretty good because he actually went kind of around the goalkeeper and then just I couldn't find it anywhere though. 

That was a great reenactment and the sound effects. 

That sounded more like golf. 

2006, though, was when, because in Australia, I feel like we caught on to it a bit late. But I feel like around 2006 is when we're like, oh, there's another football. Oh, let's stay up late and watch it on the SBS. 

Yeah. 

Because you would, you'd stay, I think, well people still do now. You'd stay up till 2 or 4am to watch it on SBS. 

We kind of get excited. 

Beckham was around then. 

I think Australia gets really excited and they're like, oh yeah, the Socceroos and they get really invested in the Socceroos probably once every four years. And it's like, man, it's just not going to, it's not going to help. Like at least, I mean, they're qualifying now and they're getting into World Cups. Now, prior to probably, I don't know, maybe 98 or 2000, I don't know, early 2000s. 

No, it was in the 90s because I went to school with the younger brother of. 

Australia finally got back to the World Cup, and it hadn't happened for a significant amount of time, I remember, because Johnny Warren, the great Johnny Warren was, of course, part of the Australian side way back when. And then, yeah, they hadn't been there for a very, very long time, and they weren't even kind of in the realm of contention for a significant amount of time. of time. And then in the early 2000s, people started to get into it a bit more. And I think it was largely thanks to SBS and the World Game and all of those shows. 

And Ronaldo's hair. 

Raised the profile of it. And players like Ronaldo, exactly. Superstars of the World Game. 

The record stood until 2014 when another guy, I didn't know how to say his name, he scored his 16th World Cup goal. 

Oh, that Miroslav Close. 

Yes, that's that guy. 

Ronaldo is still second. on that list. So that, so even though that record was broken in 2014, it hasn't been bested since. So that's quite extraordinary. Let's go to music. Get away from sport, get into music. Your area of expertise, your wheelhouse. 

We'll start with UK is still Nelly Furtado, Maneater. She's a man eater, make you bite, cause make you cut your cars, make you fall, fall in love. Thankfully finding the dog at the end of the video. 

The what? Oh, that's right. She's the last dog in the video. Yeah. 

Reunited. In Australia, still Shakira, hips don't lie. 

They know I'm on delay, my hips don't lie, and I'm starting to feel it's rain, all the attraction, attention. I can see your body moving. I don't really know what I'm doing. 

Have you seen her recently? Fountain of Youth. 

I haven't really seen her since she did the Super Bowl. 

Oh, really? 

Yeah, I haven't really. I've heard, I read about her in the, what was it, a warthog or a... Bush pig or something that stole her handbag? That's, but I haven't seen her lately. 

Well, we can't have the U.S. charts, there's probably an opportunity to talk about her a bit more in a sec. 

In the trail, it's going down Meet me in the mall, it's going down Meet me in the club, it's going down You miss you, it's good Whatever you are, I'm all alone And it's you that I want You miss you, it's good You're already alone I know I'm on tonight My hips don't lie And I'm starting to feel it's right All the attraction, tension Don't you see, baby, this is protection. 

So there she is again, Shakira, popping up number one of the US Billboard charts as well. And then we had Promiscuous, Nelly Furtado and Timberland. Yes. That was in #2. #3, it's going down. Young Jock, I feel uncomfortable doing this part. Keep going. Okay, 4 Raiden, Chamillionaire. And then five was Bad Day, Daniel, what was his name? 

Pouter. 

Pouter, Daniel Pouter. Yes, but Shakira, so she's back in Vogue, well, never probably went out of Vogue, but of course she's doing all the music for the World Cup. 

Oh, is she? 

This year as well. I saw her on the opening thing. I don't know. 

Good song. 

Don't know, I didn't see it. But there was some opening thing and I saw a clip of her on the news and I was like. 

She's very fierce. 

I was like, that woman has not aged at all. What's a secret? 

Look maxing, I guess. 

Potentially. Not like bathing in the blood of virgins or anything like that. 

I'm sure that's part of it. 

I just, it's extraordinary. She doesn't, she has not aged a day since 2004. 

I still sing too. You know how sometimes when singers get older, They can't see as well anymore. And you go, gosh, what happened to their boy? She's still going strong. Voice is still as good as it ever was. 

And just, I think like naturally, just good genes, right? Like, you know, it's like, it's not like people who look like they haven't aged, but they've just had heaps of surgery and they're actually like, you know, just completely withered underneath. Their organs are failing and stuff like that, but their looks maxing, but their organs are failing. Their looks maxing and their organs are Yeah, what's the opposite of maxing? Looks maxing, organ redacting, organ meaning. Yeah, cool. 

Something like that. We promised, look, enough Shakira, because we promised last week that we'd talk about young Jock this week, because we talked about Shakira last week. 

It's going down. 

You thought you'd keep talking about Shakira, but we said we'd talk about young Jock. Atlanta rapper, who's in at #3 this week. The single, It's Going Down, released in April from his album, his debut album, in fact, New Jock City. Get it? 

Oh, because he's Young Jock. Yes, I get it. 

Produced by Nitty. 

That's, I mean. 

And it's Feet Nitty in the... 

I mean, in Australia, we associate that with head lice. 

We do. And those combs, those very fine-toothed combs. 

Yeah. 

Yes. Anyway, it's part of the snap music movement, which came out of Atlanta around this time, 20 years. years ago because there was a bit of a finger snapping kind of sound that was often used instead of drums. 

Oh, really? Is that what that is? 

Music that came out of the South. People clicking their fingers and stuff. Yeah, lots of that. 

That's economical. 

Yeah, it's great. Reached #3 on the Billboard Hot 100. Became Young Jock's signature hit. 

Yeah, that's as far as he's gone. 

That's what pops up in my ludicrous mix actually on Spotify. Yeah. 

He's ludicrous on there as well. 

Listening to a ludicrous mix, it would be all ludicrous, but it's not. It's if you like ludicrous, you might. 

Also like Nitty and Young Jock. 

Yeah, Nitty and Young Jock pop up from time to time. 

Right. 

But yeah, Atlanta was kind of having a moment in 2006 and moving from the glossy club rap, so you have, you know, you have 50 cent schmicko stuff towards that more simple hook-driven Southern rap. 

Well, especially the South, right? So that would be like the outcast sort of... 

Yes. 

Yeah. 

And Luda. 

And Ludacris and those other Southern. Yes. Right. 

Good. So minimal, minimal beats, simple simp line, heavy bass, repetitive hook. 

Yep. Check. 

It was kind of, in a weird way, a bit of a precursor to what we have now, because it was built around dancers. So a lot of these songs, you know, like snap your fingers, move your whatever, I don't know, they all had, they all had dances like this kind of snap music had a dance to it. 

Jesus. See, I don't even know what's like. I was talking about words in 2026 that I don't know. I don't even know what bloody snap music is. This is just woeful. 

But a lot of those songs had kind of dance moves associated with them. They had catchphrases. It's kind of like TikTok before TikTok with the dancing and the challenges and the meme music. 

And the even. What about tantrums? Can we talk about tantrums? 

Is this thing even on? Because I can't tell. I think we have a decision to ******* make. And as if I'm supposed to do my job, you're supposed to ******* do yours. Tom's supposed to do his and whoever the else is the **** supposed to do theirs, including the stupid idiot that keeps blocking the runway over here, has to do theirs. Or I don't need to be here. It's that simple. I've been about 5-6 times out here and I'm sick of it. I mean, it wouldn't take rocket scientists for someone to come out and hook up my mic pack, but you couldn't do that. Why not? Fell asleep. 

Boy, that is 1. W. Axl Rose having a tantrum at a show in Donington in 2006. And so obviously he'd been on tour for a bit. I think this is Chinese Democracy Tour, a little bit tired, a little bit testing. 

Well, I don't think the album would come out at that stage. 

Well, he's been working on it for a while. There's been lots of rumours and he's resurfaced in 2006, really. And Guns N' Roses are doing shows, not the Guns N' Roses that you would know and love from the 80s though. This is basically the Axl Rose show with a bunch of musicians that he's brought in that is not Slash or Duff or Stephen Adler or Izzy or any of the, or Dizzy or Dopey or Doc or Grumpy or Sneezy or any of the dwarfs, okay? It's Axl's thing. So he's not having a good time of things and this all comes to a head when he is arrested in Stockholm after allegedly attacking a hotel security guard. Now the most The memorable thing about this is, and I mean, you heard the tantrum. Like, I just, I mean, Axel's always been a bit volatile. He's had a reputation, but I just don't think he's the kind of guy that, well, if he does throw down, if he's going to be successful, he's going to fight dirty, and that's what he's done. So he allegedly bit the guard on the leg. Bit him on the leg. 

Right. Yes. So they hadn't released an album since 93 at this stage. 

Yes, so there's still the pre-democracy rumour stuff. 

Yeah. And he'd been out of the public eye for a little while. And people weren't sure whether he was just off, you know, perfecting this album and this, you know, reclusive musical genius, or maybe he'd just gone off the rails. You just didn't know. You didn't know. 

The Caucasian Michael Jackson. 

So when this story breaks, He probably wasn't really that much of a shock because he's just done something pretty much on brand for Axel once more. So they have a concert in Stockholm. They reportedly partied at a nightclub called Cafe Opera. And then at around 7am, they returned back to the hotel. They're staying at the Burns Hotel. Witnesses say that Axel got in a bit of an altercation with a woman. There was an argument in the hotel lobby. And a security guard steps in to break things up or to defend the woman. Axel didn't like that, so he bit him on the leg. 

Well, he allegedly hit the guard. 

And then beat him on the leg. 

And I think that's interesting, because I mean, there's no footage, but I picture this in my mind's eye. 

And it's just like holding a leg and just chomping down on it. 

It's so completely peculiar, because obviously he would be standing up arguing you would take the woman. The leg's not near your mouth. security guard would step in, Axel Rose would throw a little bit of a slap at him and then drop to his knees and bite him on the leg. 

Yeah, like a stop, drop, and roll bite. 

It's like it's just one manoeuvre is like, oh, like I'll distract him with this hand, I'll throw the jab, I'll throw the jab and then I'll drop to my knees and bite him on the leg. 

Or maybe the guard like was going to kick him or something and it presented the leg near his mouth. 

Axel was a bit drunk. 

Yeah, okay, maybe he stumbled and fell over. 

So the police said that they couldn't even interview him. He was a little bit intoxicated. And he had to sit in a cell and sober up. He was in the drunk tank. And they described him as quite aggressive during the arrest. I mean, who would have thought after that lovely, wholesome little sound bite of him having a tantrum of a bolotov. So they had to handcuff and restrain him. Now, this is... This is not 22-year-old Axel from the 80s, whose bad behaviour is almost, well, it's not endearing, but it's almost suspect as part of the gimmick, right? This is like a 44-year-old man. 

At what age do we stop biting people? I feel like it's well before 44. 

Like 4, maybe? Four, not 44. Yeah. So, I mean, instead of going to court, though, I mean, Axel was like, all right, you know, this is the 44-year-old man. 

Those are my teeth. That's my teeth imprint there. Yep. 

You know, 44 year old tantrums, not a really good look for any man. That's the dad crash out, right? It's the inability to completely emotionally regulate and just lose it. So 40,000 kroner he had to pay, he had to pay compensation to the security guard. Might have had to have a shot, maybe a tetanus shot, I don't know. And he was released in time to, of course, continue the tour. Thank goodness, because you know what happens when Axel Rose gets a, you know, I mean, we'd hate to. 

Is this thing even on? Because I can't tell. 

Yeah, I can't tell either, mate. I mean, you wouldn't, you would not pay to go and see Guns and Roses these days. Have you seen, have you seen the videos, heard the footage? Sounds like Mickey Mouse these days. His voice is gone. I was like, man. 

He's no Shakira. 

Yeah, I'm like, you know, if he's like, he's turning around going, you know. If ever there was a case to use a backing tape, it's Guns N' Roses in 2026. All right, sorry, let's go over to entertainment, shall we? Let's go to the box office. 

Brand new number one in the US and in Australia. Click. 

What if you could solve everything? 

I'm looking for a universal remote control. Make my life a little easier, less complicated. 

Come in the back with me. 

About to rock your world. The push of a button. No one else in the world has one. Just point. 

Click. Shh. Everybody's sleeping, relax. 

Will you turn the stinking volume down? 

This summer. You wanted a universal remote control that remote controls your universe. 

Cool. 

Give me a break, Michael. You're a big boy. I'm so tired of having this argument. I just don't think there's a lot to ask. I got ghost stories, charades, the dishes. I skipped the whole fight. 

An Adam Sandler film. Straight to the top of the box office in both countries. Click. I think the most exciting and good thing about this movie was that Christopher Walken was in it. And even when Christopher Walken's in a dud, it's still great. But I mean, this was a wildly popular film. Everybody loved it. 

So Adam is Michael, an overworked architect. And he goes to buy a universal remote. And then Christopher Walken gives him a magic universal remote. 

That can change his universe. 

So he can pause, rewind, and fast forward elements of his life. And eventually the remote starts making those decisions for him. And I think why it became so popular was people went in there expecting your typical Adam Sandler comedy, like a light-hearted, there's Adam Sandler being a bit crazy as usual. But it did sort of get you in the feels towards the end. It got a little bit serious. 

He started doing that with these movies around this time. 

Yeah, and I think the movie sort of had a lot to say about aging, regret, Missing out on those important life moments. 

Yeah, it's like this, he's gone from sort of like that gross out juvenile comedy to kind of family movie stuff. And look, I mean, it wasn't terrible. Like I said, a lot of people enjoyed it. They really liked it. They were surprised by the fact that it wasn't just one of these gross out silly comedy movies, I guess. 

Made 260 million worldwide. 

And once again, Christopher Walken. Oh, and not to mention Henry Winkler. The Fonz. 

David Hasselhoff was in it as well. 

David Hasselhoff, he's kind of the villain in it. 

And Sophie Munk even played a small part in it as well. 

And our favourite Hobbit, Sam Wise, Gamgee, Sean Aston from The Goonies was in it as well. 

Oh, I always think of him as Sean Aston from The Cino Man. 

It's actually, when you mentioned Sean Aston from The Goonies, that was the other point I was going to make about Axel Rose. He looks a lot like Mama Fratelli from The Goonies these days, anyway. But yes, back to the Adam Sandler film. I mean, it was Adam Sandler is so underrated as a serious actor. Like I love Adam Sandler in drama. I really like him in drama films. I loved Ankut Jarm. I thought that was great. And I even like. 

Did that win awards? Because I think this one was his first kind of serious movie that did win an award. 

Yeah. 

But yeah, I think Ankut Jarms won a few, didn't it? 

Yeah, I think it did. And I think Spaceman, which was a bit more trippy, but it was very strange. But it's like, You can tell that he just wants to kind of, flex those acting muscles a little bit more. And he's quite good. He's quite good. So I'm like, two schools, like I like Adam Sandler if he's being really silly or if he's being really serious. And this one sits in the middle for me. So I didn't really like it that much. 

Oh, well. How do you feel about Neighbours? 

I feel like you can be, you can tie somebody's age back to the time. 

Which character they speak fondly of? 

The character, the neighbour's character that they most remember. 

Well, here's my age. This will tell you my age. I remember at school having a fruit box with neighbour's stickers and you'd collect the stickers and stick them on your school books. And mine was Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan. So there's my neighbour's age. Scott and Charlene. 

I was going to say mine. Madge. Yeah, Mike. 

Mrs. Mangle. 

Joe Mangle. 

Remember Mrs. Mangle, the nosy Parker. 

I do remember Mrs. Mangle. 

Yeah. 

Joe Mangle. 

And was it, and what Annie, Annie, what was her name in it? And she was Mrs. Mangle's like granddaughter or niece. Jane. That's right, playing Jane the super brain. And then she had a makeover. I always love it when the nerds had a makeover. Really, they just took their glasses off. But suddenly, look matchy. 

Beautiful. 

Oh my God. 

Yes, and then Mike got a massive ***** for her. Because that was the other two. It was Jane and Mike in Scotland. 

God Pierce, yes. He had his big start there too, didn't he? 

And Henry, Henry, what was Henry, was it Bishop? 

Oh, crazy Bishop. 

Because Madge married Harold Bishop eventually and became a Bishop. 

That's right. 

Yeah. So there we are. We've just aged ourselves. I mean, I mean, generation above us would be like Toadfish, Rebecci. 

And then the younger young we'd get into the people that remember Delta Goodrem on there. 

Oh, that's right. 

She was on there. Yeah, that's not of my year though. 

5,000 episodes of Neighbours on the 30th of June 2006, Neighbours hit 5,000 episodes. Neighbours should be there for one another. That's when good neighbours become good friends. It's a very contemporary theme, but I think that is. 

The original was Barry Crocker. Yeah, not Joe Cocker, Barry Crocker. 

Joe Cocker. 

I got my Crocker cockers mixed up. 

Yeah, don't mix up your crockers and your cockers. Okay, so because they smell very different. Crocker Crockers and cockers smell very different. So I said that might be a contemporary theme, but I think that was from 2006. But oh my God, that's the new neighbours thing. 20 years old. Is it even On anymore, I think it's still. 

Kind of come to the road, that's interesting, that's interesting, and we'll get to that, you're jumping in, well, yeah, sorry, 'cause in 2006, yeah, so this is great, it's been running for twenty-one years. 

And from what I can see is... They've gone into the crazy riding time. Oh, that's good, isn't it? Because you remember. Okay, so Paul Robinson and Gail, they were volatile back in our days. And Paul was kind of the villainous character. He was like the capitalist 80s Gordon Getgo type character. 

He had like a mobile phone, one of those really big ones. 

Didn't he own and operate Lassiter's? 

He did for a while. That was later on, though. That wasn't right. 

And his dad was Jim Robinson, I believe. And anyway, so his wife, Gail, volatile on again, off again. I thought Gail was actually murdered at one stage, but she obviously wasn't and she's come back. back. And so their son Robert, they've just worked out that their son Robert, so Paul and Gail back together, shocked me, I can't believe it after everything they went through back when I was watching, had been their son Robert, he's grown up and he's the villain behind a string of disasters, AKA terrorist attacks in Erinsborough. 

He'd been involved in a plane bombing, identity theft and various attempts to destroy Paul's life. 

So he's basically Al Qaeda. Robert Robinson is Robert Robinson is basically they called him Bobby 'cause Robert. 

Robinson, Bob Robinson, doesn't he's roll off the term, yeah, that's not great, is it? What writer thought I wanted to call you could pick any name. 

We'll call it Robert Robinson. 

Yeah, why would you do that? 

That's on Paul and Gail. Like they're clearly stupid parents, idiot parents. 

So in this episode, when we hit episode. 

5, you got idiot parents, you got idiot parents, this is what happens. You get idiot, volatile parents like Paul and Gail Robinson and they end up giving birth to al-Qaeda. That's what happens. 

Paul. Paul. No, Robert abducts Paul. 

That's right. 

He kidnapped his dad in this episode and takes him into the bush. 

So he's gone from plane bomber, plane bomber, identity thief to not no kidnapper like backpacker murderer. 

Yeah, he's out of the bush. 

That's right, he's gone all molasses. 

Yeah, so that was, I can't, I don't know what happened. I didn't, look, I was more of a country practice girl to be 100%. 

That was long gone by then. 

Yeah, I know, but Neighbours was on around the same time as well. 

Yeah, right. 

And I think I had to choose. I had to be team Neighbours or team country practice. And I was team country practice. 

Fair enough. 

I didn't, I did watch a little bit with Kylie and Jason and Annie Jones, but at this stage I had no idea. So I didn't realize that Paul had given birth. 

No, that's right. And look, that is, that's the long game with the writing. 

Because, you know, that's involved. 

Well, Robert Robertson, like, you know, he's been around for a while. He's, you know, they've had a lot of that. What are we going to do with that child? He should be fully grown by now. Let's write him back into it. You know, I just think it's extraordinary. I mean, I like it. 

The drama per square metre. 

Well, that sounds a little bit out there. It does sound a little bit out there, but I mean, I like it when they sort of take a little bit more of a supernatural edge as well. 

Oh, I didn't say, oh, Harold. 

Mysterious disappearance. 

Oh no, he didn't come back from the dead. He disappeared. 

He got washed offshore. 

And then he came back years later, but he had amnesia. 

That's right. 

He couldn't tell anyone what had happened. 

That's great. But sometimes there's ghosts. 

Remember when he played the trumpet? He was trumpet playing. 

Trombone. 

Oh, trombone. That's very. And he was in the Salvation Hound, isn't it? The trombone, actually, more so than the trumpet. 

Great character. He was a great character. Yeah, I like him. I mean, the more positive moments for us from neighbours. I mean, just while we're celebrating the 5000 hours. 

Scott and Charlie walking down the aisle. 

Yes, to Suddenly by Angry Anderson. Do you remember that song? Suddenly Aussie Anderson. 

I've got that on a record somewhere. Oh my gosh. Good song. 

Just the way I am. 

Perfect. Because she was a tomboy mechanic. 

Apologies about the rendition there. But yes. 

What else? Oh, remember, remember Bronwyn and Sharon, the sisters, and Bronwyn was a good looking one. And Sharon was, Sharon was trying to lose weight because we're in the 80s and 90s. And so Sharon went on the water diet and faint I think she fell in the pool and nearly drowned. 

Really. 

Yes. Natalie Imbruglia was on there. She was. 

She was Beth. She was beautiful. 

Beth. Oh, what's her name? Natalie, the Rogue Trader. 

Natalie Bassingthwaite was on there. 

I think she got it on with. 

Doctor Carl and Paul and Paul Robinson. 

Yes, both of them. Quite the strumpets. 

Don't want to get any of that, those Robinson genes in. You don't want to be having one of those children might end up kidnapping you one day. I mean, well, Carl and Susan, they were. How many affairs did he have? He had Carl. 

A few. 

He's had a great day. 

They were breaking up. 

I mean, he's just a walking venereal disease on the show nowadays. 

And he was a doctor. 

Yes, and he, well, that's man, he, at least he could treat it, you know, without sort of giving away any of his secrets. And then, remember, I mean, there was another wedding, remember when Toadie married, who, Madeleine West, what was her character's name? 

Oh. 

This is getting near the end of where I stopped watching. But it was like, it was always like, oh, Toadie's, because Toadie's was a pretty average guy, Jared or Becky, always had the curly hair, the ponytail tied back, the long curly hair. 

What was her name? 

Yeah. 

I feel like it was something like Beth, but it wasn't Beth. 

No, it wasn't Beth, but it was Madeline West's character. 

It's a short name. 

And they get married. 

Tell us about the wedding. 

And it's like, so there's a beautiful wedding, awesome wedding. I think it's the end of the season. 

Was it at last? 

No, I don't think it was at Lassitas. It was out on the coast though, because they drive off in the wedding car, I think it is. And something happens and they drive off the cliff, remember? 

That's right. 

And she dies. And she drowns. But it seems that like with Neighbours, there's Dee. Dee there. Dee and Taty. And there seems to have been a few characters over the years on Neighbours who have been just washed out to sea and come back years later. Because Dee did and so did Harold. 

Did Dee come back? 

I believe she's come back recently. Maybe it was a ghost. You know what? 

There's been plane crashes, explosions, fires, stalkers, cults, amnesia, kidnapping. and long lost relatives officially cancelled in 2022. 

Yeah, what a tragedy. 

And they did, well, they did this big thing where they brought back Kylie and Jason and a lot of the OG, they turned it into this big TV event. 

Yeah. 

But then it ended, but then it got resurrected a few months later after the big TV event and bringing back Kylie and Jason, some other TV network or studio or company like, oh yeah, we'll fund you. And it's back on. 

And it's back. It's on YouTube. It's all over. 

Over 9,000 episodes now. 

That's extraordinary. That's longevity. 

And I think it was bigger in the UK than it was here in Australia. 

A couple of weeks ago, it was like John Woods talking about Blue Heelers going for the 500th episode of my mate, come back when you've done 9,000. let's go to books we didn't read. I've read books by this particular author. Have you? But I have not read this particular book. 

Why? Are they sci-fi books? 

Horror. 

Oh, okay. Horror. 

Yeah. 

Oh, I didn't realise this was horror. 

Yes. 

The Husband. Okay. 

The Husband. 

Fair enough. 

By Dean Koontz. There's some horror music for you. This might be a bit too, this might be too splatter horror, but we'll see how we go. 

That feels a bit Stephen King. 

Elysium Labs. it's like that modern horror thing. Yeah, I don't know what that is. Anyway, that's the, if you search for horror trailer music, copyright free, you'll find them on YouTube. They're pretty great. Elysium Labs. Okay, so here we go. What would you do for love? Would you die? Would you kill? So we have your wife. You can get her back for 2 million cash. Landscape gardener, Michael Rafferty, thinks it must be some kind of joke. He was busy planting flower beds for one of his clients when his phone rang. Now he's standing in a normal suburban neighbourhood on a bright summer day, having a phone conversation out of his darkest nightmare. Oh, that's what that dialogue was at the start. I was trying to do something because this music, we'll work with it. It's okay. Whoever is on the other end of the line is dead serious. There you go. There was a good dramatic pause. I see that guy across the street. Rifle fire shatters the stillness as the man goes down, shot in the head. An object lesson. What is going on in this? The caller doesn't care that Mitch has no way of raising such a vast sum. So it's a phone call Someone kidnapped his wife. You missed some money. Got it. It's like it was like. 

And it was proving that they did by killing someone in front of me. 

So Mitch does love her, but he's not sure if he loves her enough. He's got 60 hours to prove it. 

He's not sure if he loves her enough. 

That's what it says in the synopsis. He'll pay a lot more than $2 million. 

Oh, OK, so he does love her. 

No, that's kind of the end, so I have to, it's back. No, maybe that was the jump scare bit at the end of the music, but it's, we're not still, we've got to do the whole, hang on. From the master storyteller comes a story of love, tenacity and courage with the pace of a runaway train. The Husband is a thriller that holds the reader in its relentless grip in its tense, sorry, from its tense opening. You don't want to be in its tense opening. you'll get stuck to its shattering climax. There you go. Wow. Yeah, we got there. We got there. 

I reckon that's happened on Ramsey Street many times. 

I'm having a bit of a week this episode. I'm floundering, I'm waffling, I'm just, I don't know. 

You're wrong. 

I am. I'm discombobulated. But I mean, what else is new? 

Well, let's go to the reviews. Yeah, it's probably for the best. Cindy 2 stars. Don't crumb on me for this, Jay. I needed something from the library. and everything I really wanted was unavailable. I'm kind of crumbing on myself now for picking this one up. Jay then responds to Cindy 2 stars. Crumb on you. Not even sure what that means. 

I'm not sure what that means either. James gives it two stars. Mildly interesting at the beginning, then relatively exciting from the middle onwards, with poetry vomit describing stuff and whatnot at regular intervals. 

Nice. Andro Mache. 

Andro Mache or Andro Mash? 

Or Andrew Andro Mache, like paper mache. 

Oh yes, so they've just got a whole bunch of Andros and stuck them on a balloon and then popped it and extracted the popped balloon from the centre. 

Yeah, and then painted it. 

And then painted it, funny colours. 

It looked like something. 

Yeah. 

They said, so many pages in this book describing the grass and the sky and the wind. Dear God, so many descriptions of the wind. 

Yeah, I think that happens when you're runk. You get really good. And you know, Dean Koontz is pretty old at this stage. She's getting a bit long in the tooth. So he's probably quite well versed, being a great author, at describing the phenomena of wind. 

The wind. 

Exactly. you experience it a lot. Jordan Bartholf gave it two stars. A lot of plant details. 

Linda Cordova has responded to a one-star review. 

It's an exotic name, Linda Cordova. 

Linda Cordova. Linda with a Y as well. It is very, very similar. 

Linda Cordova. 

Linda Cordova has come and replied to a review that has nothing to do with what her response is. So Linda has come back to this book and Linda is annoyed and Linda's jumped on the first one star review on good reads. 

She's annoyed at the bad reviews. 

And she's replied. 

So she's come to defend the book. 

She's replied and she's yelling at all the one star reviews. 

Let's go. All right. 

I was putting a lot of my books up and when I picked up this one to shelve, just remembering a few of the comments about landscaping and plants, I glanced through it, read several random pages. Only on one page out of the seven I read were landscaping or plants even mentioned. So I don't think that there was much overusage of plant names or landscaping vocabulary. And if there was, in a book featuring a gardener, what do you expect? Descriptions of woodworking vocabulary perhaps? 

That impersonation that you just did of an angry woman is far scarier than the husband ever could be. It's the Hatches, Matches and Dispatches segment. We have made it to the end of the show. It is time for this. A celebrity who was born who's celebrating their 20th lap around the sun who said this? 

So grasshopper walks into a bar and the bartender's like, we have a drink named after you. And then the grasshopper's like, you have a drink named Steve. 

Oh, it's very good. It's very good. If you said actress singer McKenna Grace, you would. Be correct. That scene there where she tells that joke, that's from Ghostbusters. Oh, the new Ghostbusters. Yeah, well, she's in the Ghostbusters movie. It's a good movie, too. And I liked her in it a lot. She played Spengler's, I think, granddaughter? Yes, granddaughter. But she's a wonderful, very gifted actor. Her earliest roles were on Disney, of course, in the sitcom Crash and Bernstein, Disney XD. I've never seen that show. She was also in The Young and the Restless. Yeah. Is he his soap operas? Yeah. There'd be more than 5000 episodes of that one. 

5 million episodes of that. 

Yeah. She was in a film called Gifted, which was a breakthrough for her. I think she got a Critics' Choice Award for Best Young Performer in that. She got lots of recognition for playing young characters. She was in I, Tonya. 

She was the younger version of Margot Robbie, wasn't she? 

That's right in I, Tonya, yeah. The Haunting of Hill House, she was in that. Captain Marvel, she was in. The Bad Seed. I mean, she's been in lots of stuff, horror films, kind of like that. Annabelle Comes Home, great one. And then Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters Afterlife and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. She's in both of those. And she was excellent in them. She was, I think she stole the show in those two movies. 

And you'll see her in Scream 7 as well. 

Goodness me. Anyway, she's not just an actress, also a singer as well. Yeah. I didn't realise until I started doing the research. She's got a whole bunch of stuff. You can check all the songs out on YouTube. I'm not going to play any now, but happy. 

Happy 20th. Yeah, 25th of June. 

Isn't it? I mean, the tragedy is in the United States, she still can't have a drink. 

Isn't that appalling? 

Yes. I mean, if anything, it'd drive you to drink this way, you're going to be listening to this podcast, but that's the end of it. So thank you very much for putting up with it. Is there anything happening next week, Mel? Are we coming back? 

Oh, we're going to space, actually. 

Are we? 

Not on Elon's thing. 

Oh, good. 

Or the Bezos guys? 

Yeah, we're not on Bezos's thing, the big blue thing. 

Out of space. 

Yeah. 

I think we've got a new movie at the box office. I think it's one that you like, actually. 

Oh, good. 

Oh, and someone's going to nude up. 

Really. 

Yes. 

One of us. 

No, not one of us. Not one of us. You know, we were just discussing the fact that no one moons anymore. 

Yeah. 

There was that nude incident. 

Really. 

At a big event 20 years ago. 

Pressed fruit bowl, tossed salad. What are we talking? 

All kinds of wrong nude, you know, like bad nude. 

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