Criss Angel walked on water. And we bought it.

Rewind to 16–22 July 2006, when reality felt increasingly stranger than fiction. A devastating tsunami caught thousands off guard, MySpace's biggest breakout star served up the ultimate kiss-off anthem, Criss Angel convinced us all that walking on water was totally plausible and Play School proved some childhood comforts never go out of style. 

🃏 Criss Angel turns emo into a superpower
Mindfreak premiered and suddenly every teenager wanted black eyeliner, leather wristbands and impossible magic tricks. Walking on water, hanging from fish hooks, setting himself on fire... if David Blaine was mysterious, Criss Angel was pure Hot Topic chaos. 

🌊 Nature delivers another brutal reminder
Just 18 months after the Boxing Day tsunami, a powerful 7.7 earthquake off Indonesia's Java coast triggered devastating waves that claimed more than 660 lives. Many people barely felt the quake, so they stayed on the beach, unaware a tsunami was racing towards them. It became another heartbreaking moment that reshaped how the region approached tsunami warnings. 

🎤 Lily Allen smiles... while plotting revenge
Smile shot to number one in the UK, introducing the world to Lily Allen's cheeky storytelling and proving MySpace really could create a pop superstar. It sounded like sunshine but underneath was one of the pettiest breakup songs of the decade. We absolutely ate it up. 

💃 The coolest R&B song of 2006 arrives
Cassie's Me & U landed with barely more than a whisper, yet somehow became one of the year's biggest hits. Minimal production, hypnotic vocals and effortless cool made it feel completely different to everything else on the radio. Twenty years later, it still sounds remarkably fresh. 

📺 When live TV got a little too live
Colin Farrell's interview with Jay Leno took an unexpected turn when an alleged stalker calmly wandered onto the set, hugged him and handed him a book before security stepped in. The audience thought it was a sketch. It definitely wasn't. Farrell, somehow, barely missed a beat. 

🪟 Everybody had a favourite window
Australia's beloved Play School celebrated its 40th birthday, reminding an entire generation that Big Ted, Jemima, Humpty and those iconic windows were just as important as anything happening on commercial TV. Slow TV, wholesome vibes and zero overstimulation. Imagine that.

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The year is 2006. We head to the hills and learn reality is scripted. Your Sony Cyber Shot uploads 462 blurry regrets. A Facebook poke makes everything complicated. And Twitter's like, cool story, you've got 140 characters. Go. T-minus 20. Rewind 20 years with Joe and Mel. 

Week of 16, July 2006. T-minus 20. 

Bringing sexy back. 

I want to forgive you. T-minus 20. I hate this long-distant relationship. 

And I want to forget you. Good job. You have no style or succession. 

This is a beauty. This is very nice. Yeah, boys. 

T-minus 20 is the podcast where we take one week from 20 years ago, grab it by the ankles, flip it upside down, shake out its pockets and see what falls out. We get chart toppers, box office monsters, celebrity weirdness, text shifts, TV moments and the occasional historical event that makes you stop mid-laugh and go, oh wow, that one happened as well. With your hosts Joe and Mel. 

Yes, hi. Dust off your Motorola Razor, log into MSN Messenger, and try not to spend 3 hours customising your MySpace profile. We are jumping aboard 16 to 22 July 2006. 

I was outside my house and heard a strange noise. I looked up and shouted, tsunami! I grabbed my wife and kids and we ran. I was holding my baby and climbed a tree. But Adi couldn't hold on and I lost my grip. 

It is just the most harrowing, harrowing story. A deadly tsunami in Java, a magnitude 7.7 earthquake in Indonesia, triggers just a terrible natural disaster that causes lots of chaos and drama. My show, Mindfit, is the number one show in Las Vegas. We bring in $150 million into the casino a year. Magic. You love it, don't you, Mel? 

No, I hate it. The world's most emo magician arrives. Criss Angel. Eyeliner, leather pants, fish hooks, levitation, and enough gothic energy for all of us. 

Mind freak. 

Premieres this week, 20 years ago. At first. 

When I see you cry, it makes me smile. 

I love this chick. Lily Allen. She smiles, but it's all about revenge. She allows herself those petty human feelings that we all feel, but you know, celebrities tend to generally be above. Not Lily Allen. No, and she comes out on the charts this week with an absolute vengeance. It's going to be great. I can't wait to talk about that one. 

Yes. What are you being talked about? Is it a sign that you've made it when people discuss you on the Canberra Notice Board? 

Oh, yes. 

Is that a real sign? Is that a status symbol? 

Yeah, you've arrived. 

Because I have arrived. I have arrived this week. 

How many people are we talking about? 

I have been discussed on the Canberra Notice Board. 

In a public forum. 

Yes. 

Wow. Online. 

On Facebook. Amazing. Yes, on Facebook. 

So old people are racist? 

25 years after the fact, mind you. There was a discussion this week that was discussing Canberra Radio. 

Oh, you don't want to get into those conversations? 

Oh, look, I didn't participate. I lurked. 

I lurked. 

Well, I'm not even on Facebook, so I signed it as you and I lurked. 

Yeah, good on you. 

So anything I accidentally pressed would come up as you anyway, so that's fine. 

It's probably better if you acted on my behalf there anyway. You can be my nominee. 

I'm surprised I could get into it actually, aren't you banned? 

No, not anymore. 

Not anymore. It's been a while. 

It's been a while. Yeah, I've served my time, paid my debt to society. 

You're out of your Canberra notice board cell. Anyway, yes, there was chatter on the notice board about the Hot 30 program that I used to co-host many, many years ago. 

Yes. 

And people were discussing how I remember her from the 90s. I was like, I'm pretty sure it was the 2000s. 

What was your nickname? What was your nickname for? 

Line Dancing Mel. 

Line Dancing Mel. 

Because when I went for the job, you know what radio people are like. 

Everyone's gotta have a nickname. 

No, but also, you know what radio, like, there's a type. And the guy that interviewed me for the job, he was just a type. And so I'm having an interview. 

You mean like a f**k wit? 

Yes. 

Yeah. 

And he was like, he was swearing in the interview and just, trying to be cool and chewing gum and sitting back and like, yeah, f**king it. 

And I'm like a f**k wit. 

Yes. 

Yeah. 

So this was someone who was high up in management. Yeah. 

He just happened to be a f**k wit. Yeah. 

And I was just like, gosh. And I had, I was working in the private sector at this stage and I had, I had a nice portfolio because that's just what you did. You had the zip up portfolio that had all of your, you had a resume, had lots of plastic slates, curriculum v-take. Yes, and it had your transcript from your studies and it had certificates that you'd earned along the way in recognition of doing a good job. And it was just. I don't know, he just wanted to get a reaction out of me and he's just turned to me and just gone, why should I hire you? And I'd just finished a line dancing course and I was proudly put the certificate in there. So I flipped it over and I went right there, that there, that's why you should hire me. And he didn't know what to do. And then he's like, have you got any questions for me? And I just said, yes, can I have the job? 

That's very good. 

And he said yes. He said yes, you can. But because I'd shown the certificate, that's then how it became my name. 

That is how it. That is what happened. 

You had a name. Everybody has a name. 

Yeah, I had a name. 

Did you choose your name? Who chose your name? I never thought of it. 

Program director. We'll call you GI Joe. I'm like, Are you serious? 

Were you wearing a lot of camouflage? You do like a camo. 

I don't mind. 

Were you wearing camouflage back then? I don't think you were, so I. 

Could disappear, you know, but I've got, you know, I've got long. 

You're handing out loaves of bread. 

I've got long hair, you're a metal head, and yeah, and I'm a metal head, and then I'm... 

That's very close to a ranger look, actually, isn't it? 

I'm looking at a town where there's a Defence Force Academy, and you know there's lots of service people in and about here, and I'm like, Hey, it's G.I. Joe, and they're like, The it is! Do you know what I mean? 

I'll arm wrestle you for it. Yeah. 

It's the worst. 

Dangerous. 

Dangerous. 

Yeah. And I just, yeah, I don't know. Then it was, it is, it's very dumb. But anyway, there was a discussion and people were talking about how they used to take me on cassette off the radio, which is lovely. And it was funny. I feel like I'm a bit of a psychic. I should talk to Chris Angel Mindfreak because I was driving the other day and I was listening to Woolworths Radio. 

Right. 

And Taxi Ride came on. Remember Taxi Ride? 

Oh, get seen everybody. 

Yeah. And I'm trying to. brain train my brain and I'm trying to go... 

As opposed to brain training, what, your elbow? 

Nope, got to be clear. I don't know if it's working. I think you're straight up. But I thought, okay, what I'm going to do, because when I worked on this show, my job was to, among other things, I did the celebrity gossip and I'm now quite regretful for that because I did gossip about celebrities. 

It's a different time. 

But I look back on that and I go, I played a role in that. I was part of the problem. 

You're just trying to fill that information back in the celebrity. themselves this day. It's actually, it's actually like just as a side note, the celebrities do feel that information vacuum themselves. And I actually think that the celebrity gossip segment probably put them in a better light than what they would put themselves in. So I felt like you were doing them a service. 

Yeah. 

They're doing themselves a massive disservice by having too. 

Much of a voice. Also part of the problem. 

Yeah. 

But anyway, so part of my job was you'd ring up and you'd vote for your favourite song and I. Not your job. Part of my job was to answer the phone. And I'd write down what everyone voted for. And then the next night, the song that got the most votes was #1. And it was legit. We didn't make it up. I actually wrote it all down. 

And it's funny because people would think, you know, you'd have a producer or someone to field all those phone calls or a call centre. And it was just Mel answering the phones. 

And for I think 2 years, I had to do my gossip segment through a telephone from a different studio because then they could pay me less. 

They didn't want to. 

Cost more for me to be on the microphone. So if I went and dialed it in. 

Then you're just a caller. 

Yes, then I was cheaper. Whatever, who cares? So I would, I'd take the votes and then I got to know the kids' voices. I distinctly remember so many kids. And so when Taxi Ride came on, I was like, oh, there was one girl that always voted for Taxi Ride, even when they weren't cool. And I was like, Steffy. And then I was like, no, it's Shamila. So then I started doing this thing and I'm like, I'm trying to remember all the different kids' names. There was Ellie and Megan and Lukie and Luke and Lisa. And I remember all the names and I remember the suburbs because you'd take down their first name and their suburb. And I got to recognize their voices. And I pride myself on remembering the next night when they called up what they were voting for because they generally vote for the same song. So Shamila was Taxi Ride. Anyway, then I was like, Steffy, why did I think Steffy was Taxi Ride? I don't know. And then I'm like, no, Steffy was like Numetal. She was voting for Limp Bizkit and then she was voting for Lincoln Park and she was It's a bit more grungy. Anyway, Steffy enters the chat on the community knows the sport. 

20 years after the fact. 

And recalls the time she won DJ for a night and came into the studio and had pizza and Cornetto's. 

Yeah, isn't that funny? Pizza and Cornetto's. 

She was like, she goes, it was the best time. It was wild and I loved it. And it was just beautiful. 

That was actually extraordinary working in commercial radio that like we would do these competitions and stuff. And like I was at the other end of the day. or breakfast and you were doing the hot 30, but occasionally there'd be trips to Sydney and things like that. Parents would give their kids over to us to look after them. Oh wow, those were the days. 

I remember the kid, yeah, and I was looking through the forms because they'd have to fill out an indemnity form, probably quite wise if I was in charge. And there was a kid that came along that was allergic to peanuts and horses. And I just thought, what am I going to do? What am I going to do if a horse just turns up at this concert? 

With a bag of peanuts? What do you do? 

What do you do? 

I know. Well, you've got to try and protect him at all costs. Well, you're indemnified anyway. You might be allergic to peanut from horses, but you sign this form that says that he's f***ed if he stays with us anyways, so don't worry about it. Oh, the good old days. It was the best of times when you got to do stuff. 

That stuff was amazing. The listeners, I stand by it. That was the best part of it. 

100%, because you would you would you get to. You'd get to remember their voices and know their names. 

And they'd come to the outside broadcasts and they'd bring you cake and you wouldn't eat it. But that's fine. It's the thought that counts. 

Sometimes you would. It depends on how you ate some. On the weeks where I didn't have much money, yeah, because believe it or not, it wasn't the best pain gig in the world either. 

You didn't get Cornetto's and pizza? 

No, I'd just have listener cake, fall back on listener cake. I'd go in there on Saturday mornings after the Friday drinks just to see if there were any snacks left over and bring them home. The good and the bad old days. 

Free bread from Black Thunder. 

Yeah, exactly. The hatches, matches, and dispatches clue is what we're at now, however, in the present. I mean, we weren't even on radio 20 years ago. We'd moved on. We had TV. 

I still haven't moved on, clearly. 

It was an office job. Anyway, this is a celebrity. What have we got this week? Last week we actually had a marriage. Oh, this is just a birthday. Just a celebrity. Just a birthday. 

This is not a just. 

She's a lovely celebrity. 

I really like this. 

Yeah, she's pretty cool. She said this. 

I think that I just have to understand that my fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I just want to keep doing that. And I just hope to get better, hope to get smarter, I hope to become stronger and be a great person. 

All right, we'll find out who that is at the end of the show. It's definitely not our favorite segment, the news. No. It hasn't been for the last couple of weeks especially. Sometimes we get some good stuff, but not this week. I'd hate to tell you, we've got a pretty bad story coming out of Java in Indonesia on the 17th of July, where a powerful earthquake strikes off the southern coast of the island, triggering A tsunami that devastates coastal communities and kills more than 600 people. This was a 7.7 magnitude earthquake that struck beneath the Indian Ocean off the south coast of Java, generated a tsunami with waves reaching up to 7 metres in some locations. And more than 660 people ended up being killed with thousands injured, 10s of thousands displaced, and resorts, including Pangandaran, which I think you would have seen the videos of online. There was a few videos from Pangandaran resorts where you could see that the big wave coming up and just demolishing everything in its path. They were very hard hit. And there was no effective tsunami warning, which? 

And still not, because we obviously had the Boxing Day tsunami around that area in 2004. 

Well this was two years prior, exactly. It was extraordinary that nothing had kind of been done. I think that's what, when we heard the news and we saw the stories and watched the videos and all of that, we were like, but how? has, not how has this happened, we know how this happened, but how have we not seen people better prepared? And I think geography probably has a lot to do. do with that really. 

And I think too, similar to the time before, there was people on shore reported only relatively mild shaking. So a lot of people didn't realize how severe the earthquake was and that a tsunami was coming. 

Yeah. 

Many residents stayed near the beach after the quake because they didn't perceive it as dangerous. And some communities only had minutes to react before the waves arrived. Very reminiscent of 2004, in fact. 

I saw one video and it was like these people were watching a band performing, right? And they're on the, the band are on the stage performing. And they're just playing music and it's like, oh, and it's like the wave comes through the back of the venue and takes the band out and then all of the participants just go straight through the board. It's just horrifying to watch. Horrifying stuff. And look, I mean, there were lots of counts of survival from people. We need to find out what happened to that guy that lost his baby when he was up in the tree. 

I was outside my house and heard a strange noise. I looked up and shouted, tsunami! I grabbed my wife and kids and we ran. I was holding my baby and climbed a tree. But Adi couldn't hold on and I lost my grip. The water rushed by. When I was seated, I looked towards the beach and heard a cry. Papa, Papa! And it was puddy. 

That's extraordinary that that child survived. Yeah. I mean, imagine the terror of being in a tree with a baby and losing your grip on... I just... As a parent, I mean, that's a, I hate saying like that, as a parent, but that is just gut-wrenching, gut-wrenching stuff. It was a really big reminder of the risk of tsunamis in that area. 

And I think this one was, yeah, pretty, one of the most, obviously not as bad as 2004, but still pretty deadly. as far as casualties go. And again, reinforce the need for these early warning systems, particularly after an earthquake, no matter how mild the earthquake seems on shore, the fact that a tsunami could be generated and cause that level of devastation. 

Well, because unlike major earthquakes, the people on shore experienced only really mild shaking. So they didn't really even think that a tsunami would be coming. But that is apparently known as a tsunami earthquake, which is like a slower moving rupture that produces A disproportionately large tsunami wave compared with the actual shaking that you feel. And so a lot of residents experienced that quake and still stayed near the beach because they didn't see it as dangerous. So they really only had minutes, if that, to react to it before the waves arrive. Now these days I do believe they have a better system in place. They did learn from this. Although it still is very challenging for them because the coastline is quite vast and there's thousands of islands in that area. And that particular one, the 2006 one in Java, does remain one of the deadliest natural disasters of the decade from there. And it's often studied in those management and emergency planning videos and courses. And that's because there is so much footage available of it as well. There is a lot of stuff around there, but it certainly did reinforce that importance of recognizing those natural warning signs, like the sea suddenly receding and really weird ocean behavior, even if those warnings haven't been issued. It's really interesting because I've been looking at a lot of news these days, like just recently, we've got like those big earthquakes in Venezuela. There's been heaps of earthquakes in Japan, volcanic eruptions. There's a lot of tectonic stuff happening like right now. And it's just always, I mean, you are so powerless when you are just left at the mercy of the actual planet. Let's. 

And innovation. 

Let's shift gears and do the technology and innovation. Is that the new part of the innovation part? You'll do it live. Yeah, I'll do it live. 

I just felt like that doesn't, the dial-up doesn't scream innovation these days. So I thought it needed a bit of rehabilitation. 

Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll rework it. Maybe I won't be bothered. 

So I jumped in the Wayback Machine. It was having a lot of trouble loading today. It was like the Wayback Machine was on dial-up. Because the Innovations Catalogue was online in 2006, but it was a very basic website. It was taking a very long time to load. I think it must have been built on Flash. 

Yeah, right. 

Gifts and all kinds of things, but it took forever. So I had it sort of loading over there in the corner and it's finally come up. So I do have, I do have an innovation segment. 

What have you got for us? 

So from the July Innovations catalogue, I present the four layer beaded touch lamp. 

Oh, lovely. 

It's a touch lamp with cascading beads looking like a chandelier. Actually, I'll bring it up for you. Hang on one moment. There it is. 

Oh, it's beautiful. 

It is. It's cascading chandeliers. I think we'll need to put this on the socials, actually, because it's just... I can't do it justice. Pendulous. 

Pendulous crystals. 

They look like droplets of water. Droplets of. hanging over the side. And it was nothing, back in the late 90s, early 2000s, nothing screamed bougie, like just being able to turn on a light with the tap of a finger. 

Touch lamp, yeah, And you could 

control the brightness, like 3 taps was super bright. 

Well, if you had static electricity in the carpet, you could almost use the Force to turn on the touch lamp and feel like a real Jedi. 

Four-layer beaded touch lamp, glamorous table chandelier, just touched the base to control the glow. So it had multiple settings. Would you like to read out the description? 

A cascade of shimmering prisms set against the warmth of gleaming brass make this lamp a stunning centrepiece. Standing 36 centimetres tall, it transforms... I feel like it's more at Price is Right, though. A cascade of shimmering prisms set against the warmth of gleaming brass make this lamp a stunning centrepiece. Standing 36 centimetres tall, it transforms a standard 40 watt bayonet bulb, not supplied, into a classic luminaire. The touch-activated The base allows you to change the mood from soft, medium or bright or simply turn it on or off without searching for the switch. Easily assembled, the lamp, 4 rows of crystal look prisms are made from unbreakable plastic for safety and a long life. And it could be yours tonight if the price is right. 

Last, not in the real Shandlik. 

No, which is good. 

They did this week, 20 years ago, they had a special offer going. It was a special buy. You could buy 2 and save $10. You could buy 2 for $79.90. Or, because I think they were 50 bucks each, or you for $39.95 over 2 months, they had payment plans available. 

Well, that's a bargain. That's less than $40 per lamp. 

It is, I know. And my parents, I don't think they bought theirs from the Innovations catalogue, but they did. 

They had a chandelier on the table. 

But they bought 2 the same and they had one on either. No bedside tables. Bedside tables, the perfect spot. They didn't have the chandelier version, but the perfect spot for a touch lamp. But think about it, in the middle of the night, you Can't find the switch. 

All you've got to do is late. Yeah. 

Flip your hand over the side of the bed and you've got lights. 

It's problematic. I feel like you could accidentally. 

I think they've still got them. 

Really. 

Genius. 

Bedside chandeliers. I do. I feel like it takes up. It takes up a lot of space. Stunning. 

You don't want that one by the bed, though, if you hit the... Oh, I guess they're plastic, so they're not going to break, are they? No. Too many dangly bits, but that's stunning. I think that's stunning, and I think this has been a wonderful segment. 

It was good. 

Out of all the segments we've had, it was definitely one of them. That was excellent. All right, let's do music. 

Okay, where are we going to start? Let's start in Australia. 

I know I'm on the light, my hips don't lie, and I'm starting to feel it's light. All the attraction, attention, don't you see, baby, this is perfection. Boy, I can see your body moving, half and more half, man. I don't, really know what I'm doing. 

I know that, all good art's open to interpretation, but what would hip's lying look like? 

I don't know, right? I don't know what an honest hip would look like while we're on the topics. 

I don't think that hips are capable of being honest or dishonest. They just kind of hip. They just do hip stuff. Exactly. I mean, when they're older, they give out. 

Maybe that is your hip lying. 

Yeah, really. 

Yeah, or maybe, when you get a replacement, that's lying, because it's not your, it's not a legitimate hip. It's a fake hip, perhaps. That's what she's talking about. I don't know. 

Well, there's that was Shakira with her honest hips. I'm glad that they tell the truth. The George Washington of hips cannot tell a lie. I've cut down this cherry tree with my little hatchet. 

Put that in your resume. My hips are truthful. 

Yeah, they're honest. I've got an honest set of hips on me, which is, you know, pretty great. Very hireable. Let's see what's happening in the United States. 

Meet me in the trail. It's going down. Meet me in the mall. It's going down. Meet me in the club. Going down now I've been waiting, waiting Think I wanna make a move now Baby, tell me if you like it Tell me if you like it I think you're crazy I think you're crazy I think you're crazy I know I'm all delight My hips don't lie And I'm starting to feel it's right Or the attraction What are you waiting for? 

Me, obviously, to relay the top five. 

That's right. 

Promiscuous #1, Hip Stoneline #2, Crazy #3, Me and you, Cassie #4. 

New addition to the charts this week, yes. 

Number 5, it's going down. 

Young joke, it's good down. Mimi in the trail, it's good down. 

Make sure you're wearing your kilt. I don't know why I said that. Anyway, let's talk about Cassie. 

Because you're racist, that's why you said it. You just assume they're all Scottish men wear skirts, but we don't. Sometimes we wear trousers. So please get on with the show. 

I mean, can you play a bit more of me and you? 

Oh, Cassie, yes, sure. 

I've been waiting, waiting, think I want to make a move. Now, baby, tell me if you like it. Tell me if you like it. 

I gotta be really careful with how much of A wowser I am with this stuff, 'cause I've realised, like, they sound like new songs to me, and they're 20 years old. 

I think though this song, Me and You, is, it's very clean R&B and I feel like it actually is quite timeless. I feel like this song could chart today. 

Maybe. 

I feel like it could and I really like it. Debut single for Cassie produced by Ryan Leslie. Cassie met Leslie in New York who wrote and produced the song. She initially released it independently But then it catches the attention. 

Oh dear. 

Yeah, I just, it's hard to talk about this one actually. It caught the attention of Sean Diddy Coombs, who then signs her to his Bad Boy label. But let's talk about the song for now. One of the biggest R&B hits of 2006. It reaches #3 on the Hot 100, launches her self-titled debut album, becomes an international hit and that was partly because of the stripped back production. 

Yeah. 

Just a really clean sound. She sounds amazing. Yeah, Really great song. And... She dominates radio at the time, establishes her as one of the breakout artists of 2006, and is still quite recognisable today. And I think in the charts at this time, R&B was starting to get really busy and loud and messy. 

So I'm actually not that much of A wowzer. It's more that this was maybe slightly ahead of its time. 

I think so. She's 19. 

Well, that makes me feel a lot better. Thank you very much. 

She's 19 years old. Not just a singer, she was a model for major fashion brands. She was in the movie Step Up 2. She was in one of Kanye's video clips and a big fashion icon at the time as well. And going back to 2006 and the release of this, everyone expected really big things from her. and they expected lots and lots of hits to follow this particular song. 

Yeah. 

And for years, people wondered why she never had another huge breakthrough. 

Yeah, why? 

And I think, well, when you look at what's happened now... 

Because she was... 

So Cassie is obviously the one who was in the, she was Diddy's girlfriend. 

Is she the one in the video? 

She's the one in the video. She was his girlfriend for years. 

Oh, the poor thing. 

And so now when you think about, oh, where did Cassie go? Why didn't we hear more from her? It feels very different through what we know now kind of lens, obviously. And the song too, unfortunately for me, like I loved the song at the time. And it was popping up on a lot of my nostalgia playlists. But with everything that's happened over the last few years, that song featured in a lot of the news stories about what happened. So now I can't hear that song without thinking about the footage and everything. 

Well, you just go, your mind's eye goes straight to the footage, doesn't it? 

Yeah. 

Of him like dragging it down the hallway. 

Yeah, so obviously 2023, she has a civil lawsuit against him, allegations of abuse. And at the time, she copped a lot of abuse. So before that video came out, people were saying horrible things about her and the allegations. Nobody was believing her. There was a lot that happened. And then that video was released and suddenly everyone's like, oh. 

Whoopsie. 

She was telling the truth. And it's absolutely, absolutely horrendous. So I think through that lens now, that's probably why we did not see any more or hits come through from Cassie. 

Yeah, it's really sad. It's a bit of a waste, really. A tragic waste. I mean, we hear that story all too often in music, though, really, don't we? Let's move on to somebody who I think was a little bit more in control of their career, a little bit more empowered, and somebody who I think a lot of guys wouldn't f*** with. 

And has had Quite a few missteps or blunders over the years, but I think that's why I really like her. Like I like her more because she is so raw and honest and just owns her sh*t. 

I was going to say, takes full ownership. 

At first, when I see you cry, it makes me smile. Yeah, it makes me smile. At once, I feel bad for a while. 

There's just a. honesty to it, isn't it? We're talking about Lily Allen. 

Number one on the UK charts this week, 20 years ago. That's obviously her debut single, Smile, and one of the first big breakthrough artists, Care of MySpace. 

Yeah, I love the title of the debut album too. It's all right, still. That's the title. It's great. 

Yeah. The song samples Free Soul by Jamaican group Soul Brothers and cements her as one of Britain's biggest new artists and helped usher in a wave of that conversational, witty, little bit self-deprecating kind of female pop. 

And I love that kind of, especially with this song, that kind of reggae sound behind it as well. It just, it's almost like it shouldn't work, but it does. To great effect. 

And it's actually about getting revenge too, which makes it even better. It just sounds so fun and happy, but it's a revenge song. 

That's it. Finally, someone who's like, oh, I'm friends with all my exes. It's not someone like that. It's like, no, when bad **** happens to him, it makes me really happy. And I'm, yeah, she's my type of girl. I love that. 

And I've loved her over the years, in particular that incident at the GQ Awards with Elton John. 

Oh, she's just that, yes, where he's given her a hard time for being drunk. 

Well, he said to her because they were presenting an award and he leans to her like, you can have another drink? And she turned around and said, off Elton, I'm 40 years younger than you. And then what did Elton say? 

Yeah, and then she also said, I've got my whole life ahead of me. 

Yeah, and then Elton's like, I could snort you under the table. Yeah, it's just like... One of the best celebrity exchanges, I think. 

I think, I'm sorry, but I think Lily Allen won that exchange. I think Elton just looked like a puffed up old queen after that. She just smashed him. 

It was awesome. No, I loved both of them. 

Oh, I like both of them as well. I'm a big Elton John fan, but he just came off second best in that exchange. That's all. 

His company actually managed her, which I didn't realise. And she admitted that she had secretly resented him for years. 

Yeah, really. 

His company managed her and then dropped her in 2017. And she had written a really personal letter to him about her sobriety and struggles after the management company dropped her. And so she sent this letter to him, this really heartfelt letter, and never heard anything back. So she just... had this big grudge and just hated on him for years ago. 

He's never applied to me. You know, he's me bearing my soul to Elton John and he just completely ignores me sponsor. 

Why is he not, you know, why is he talking to me? She then moves to America in 2024 and unpacks her moving boxes and finds the letter. She'd never actually sent it. 

Whoopsie. 

But again, this is her own. her stuff though, she then publicly apologizes to Elton and told everybody that she'd carried all these years of resentment over something that never actually happened. She doesn't have to do that. 

She's like just a human being after all. And that's what I love about her. I didn't, she was going out with David Harbour for a while on Stranger Things. 

I actually really loved, I loved that relationship because I loved his character on Stranger Things. And this is another instance of where I've kind of just assumed that on character warmth and lovely nature transpires into real life. And so I thought him being that kind of lovely, kind guy, her being outspoken, but just owning, owning it, what a beautiful coupling. 

Well, it was for a little while, but it got volatile, I think. 

And she also, because I think they met on Rhea, which is that that dating app for celebrities. Yeah, But then after they were together, she found he still had a profile on her. 

Oh, he's just keeping his options open. Well, you know, I mean. 

Were they engaged or married or I don't know. They were quite serious anyway. 

They were quite serious, but I mean, you know, it's all given a great material for some more revenge songs, if anything. I like, Lily Allen's revenge songs much better than Taylor Swift stuff. Like, I mean, just... 

Yeah, it makes me smile. Yeah, it makes me smile. 

That's it. I just love it. It's like at first. When I see you cry, it makes me smile. And then at worst, I feel bad for a while. But yeah, it still makes me smile. 

It's great. 

So good. 

These days, she co-hosts the hugely popular Miss Me podcast with one of her childhood friends, where she discusses celebrity life, parenting, politics. She's diagnosed ADHD. She talks about her relationships, pop culture. I think it does really, really well. 

Yeah, well, it should. I love her. I think she's fabulous. I think she, it doesn't, she's, Island of realness in an ocean of fake. 

I find it very ironic that my watch has just popped up with a take a moment and be a bit mindful right as you've played the boom intro. 

It must have known. 

It's like I can feel her blood pressure rising. 

Must have known. Flower on the subject. 

She's about to have a moment. Let's make it breathe with the flower and calm it down. 

Absolutely. Well, this is your boomer opportunity to breathe with the flower as we open up the boom box. A place for boomer style complaints. A place where you can shake your fist at the cloud without the next generation turning around. around and looking at you and saying, okay, boomer, you don't have to worry about that because we'll accept it. Not only will we accept it, we'll celebrate it, we'll identify it, we'll agree with it. And if you do want to send one in, just hit us up on the socials, T-minus 20 podcast, you know, on the platforms and slide into our DMs. You can give us one. You can give us a boom. Who have we got this week to boom? 

At Eden underscore eats. 

Oh, g'day, Eden eats. 

Yes. Are you ready? 

I'm braced. and prepared. 

Okay, I have to take a breath with the flower. Here we go. 

In with the... You right. 

Yeah, but you need to do another one. I'm not going to be on XR. HBO login semi-colon. So this is the HBO login talking, okay? Yep, Password must contain at least 8 characters, a number, an emoji, your college roommate's maiden name, and a hieroglyph. That wasn't the boom moment. What? Then we've got ATM semicolon. So the ATM's replying to the HBO login. Just any 4 numbers. 

Yeah, Like you're in time. 

Think about the most stupid, like you've got to, when you order a pizza, the password you've got to put in there has got to be 1000 characters long and you just never remember it. But no, you just go to an ATM at 3:00 in the morning and just press 4 digits. So true. 

It's not very. 

Thank you, Eat and Eats. You raised a very good point. 

I do appreciate that, Eat and Eats. And I think it's time that the rest of society was highlighted as to the double standard. So what you've done there with your boom is a massive public service. And Eat and Eats, we salute you. I feel so much better. I think that was refreshing to do that kind of sort of mid 3/4 of the way through to the show of the show just to sort of make sure that we go out on a. 

What's the thing everyone's telling you to reset these days on the Instagram? Oh, your vagus nerve. That's the new trend. 

Your vagus nerve. 

Your vagus nerve. 

Where can I find that? 

I've got no idea, but over the course of the last week, I've stuck my fingers in my ears a funny way and pulled my lobes down. I've also done this thing where I puff up a cheek and breathe in and out through my nose, and then I puff the other cheek, breathe in and out through my nose, then both cheeks breathe in and out through my nose. And I've done another thing where I screw my face up like this. for a minute, and all those things are supposed to reset your vagus nerve. So that's the latest thing. 

But you don't know where it is. 

It's like breathing with the flower, apparently, your vagus nerve is, you reset it. 

You put the vague in vagus nerve. 

Look, this is what the influencers are saying, so it's probably wrong. 

It must be true. 

But I thought, you know, absolutely. What harm can it do if I just puff my cheek out? 

Well, that's okay. 

Anything I've, you know, just puffed my cheek. 

Puffed your cheek and no harm, no foul. 

Yeah, I felt a bit light-headed. 

Oh, good. 

Maybe that's what it does. I don't know. 

Anyway, whatever. 

Let's talk about Stalkers. 

Yeah. 

Shall we? Because it's still the pirate movie. 

Oh, the Pirates of the Caribbean is still number one in the box office on both shores. 

Yes. 

Both sides of the pond. Yes. Well, Stalkers, Colin Farrell had a stalker this time 20 years ago. 

Very interesting story. 

Yeah, so he's doing an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Now, and so this is kind of how it's all going. It's a standard talk show interview. I think he was He's talking about making Miami Vice and he had a great little anecdote that he shared and he shared a few more anecdotes. And I believe that what happened was a woman walked on stage. But just to set the scene, I think this happened while the interview was underway. So she crosses the set while the interview's underway. 

I think people thought it was part of a skit. 

Yeah. Approaches Colin Farrell. hands him a book, hugs him, whispers something in his ear, and then security escort her out of the building. And the audience are just like, oh, that was a thing, I guess. I don't know, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. And then Colin, just cool as a cucumber, is like, where was I? Now, the interview itself, part of the interview, this is from the same interview, but I couldn't actually find the woman coming on stage online anywhere, but this is part of this. 

Maybe they had to remove it? 

Quite possibly. This is part of the same interview. He's a real cop. 

Real cops the real deal and we were doing scenarios running fake scenarios in a car park in Miami and then came the time when they had to they were doing a deal themselves and they were buying 40 kilos of cocaine off a bunch of Colombians that day and they said to me you can come with us if you want these guys we've dealt with them before they're not into trouble they just want to make money they're all about the business it'll just be we'll take the 40 k's of coke and we'll give them the money and it'll all go fine and I said I was put on the spot my ego was pulled into question so I said absolutely I'm there with you meanwhile the old brown trousers were coming into effect again and we went along I just said make sure you don't tell my mother or my sister if you ever talk because they'd go mad and we went along to a deal that I thought was real and it went our sober elbow and guns came out a gun came out and uh... What did you do? Did you keep your impression of me? That was Woody. I did Woody Allen. I smoked about 17 cigarettes and I saw the tape back and I seriously I can see the moment where I had a bowel movement. 

It's that story, he tells that story afterwards. So the consummate, the consummate professional. And even after the thing, he was like, now where was I? And he got on with the interview. And like I said, you can't find the footage of that particular incident anywhere, maybe for legal reasons. But the woman was Desiree Bradford. And according to the court documents filed by Farrell shortly afterwards, she had been sending him hundreds of letters, emails, and packages. 

Listener cake. 

Yeah, possibly. on steroids, she claimed that they had a relationship that Farrell said had never existed. And she had previously attempted to contact him repeatedly over several years. And so he sought and obtained A restraining order against her. So you can imagine this woman walks up on stage. We're not sure what was whispered to him, but he's like on national television, international television. 

In front of an audience. 

And she's probably like, I'm your stalker. It's me, whatever. And he's. 

And he's probably, for a minute, he probably thought it was a bit as well. He probably thought it was. 

I don't think so. I think he was like, holy ****. 

Oh, no, yeah, from all the listener cakes. 

Exactly, but he still got on with it. 

And the book that she handed him was her own self-published novel called Hold On to the Dream. And she wanted him to read it and believed that there's a personal connection between the two of them. 

And she was saying, like, I've been trying to get into contact with you. He's like, I ******* know. I know you. It was pretty, pretty big as far as a massive celebrity security breach because it's not only a stalker, finding out where they live and going around their house and stuff like that. It's a stalker who has got through security. I mean, we've been to a taping of a late night talk. We went and saw Letterman over in the States. And you go through a bit of security before you even get in the booth. Like there were metal detectors and stuff there. 

Yes. 

You know, so there was a fair bit of security there, maybe because of things like this. 

But there's no way you would have been able to walk out onto the stage. 

No way, not at all. So it really did highlight a lot of risk that people face from. 

And the headlines are crazy. 

I mean, we're in a time where the paparazzi are just going so hard at them as well. And there's just. I can imagine, I don't think it was a very safe time to be famous in the late 90s and early 2000s. But this happened really before social media as well. So it still made headlines worldwide regardless because of the fact that it happened on Jay Leno. And I think a lot of that celebrity stalking stuff, it certainly highlighted the conversation a lot more. And you know, what's, there's stalkers, but then there's paparazzi as well. And I'd argue that you could always put them in the same category. 

Also a dangerous time for magic. 

Oh, when is it not a dangerous time for magic? Especially when you're around because you don't like it. 

No, well, look, I wouldn't do anything to a magician. I just don't like them. 

You'd be more concerned about what magicians do to you. Yes. 

Well, no, I can't be hypnotized. I actually proved that. I proved that when I was going to go on the Ricky Lake show. But you had to be able to be hypnotized and they couldn't hypnotize me, but I pretended to be hypnotized and they knew I was pretending. And they kicked me out. 

Yeah. And then they hit me. 

I'm not a good actress. I can't be hypnotized. 

Hypnotist is like, don't worry, I'm pretending too. Yeah. 

But we're not talking about a hypnotist. 

No. 

Talking about a Criss Angel. 

A mind freak. 

A mind freak. 

Criss Angel, mind freak. Mind freak. Remember this show? 

Unfortunately, yes. Street Magic, Horace Aesthetics. Outrageous stunts. It was very, it's like David Blaine made magic look cool and Chris Angel made it look like it was sponsored by Korn, Hot Topic and Monster Energy. 

Yes, it is very much like that. 

Lots of eyeliner. 

You know, like magic, magic endorsed by Tap Out. Yeah. 

Premiered on A&E in the, is that accident and emergency in the US? 

No, but yes. 

Combined close-up magic with elaborate escape. He was an escape artist. 

He did some amazing things though. Yes. 

The water, the walking on water was a thing I always remember. What do you think he was? Jesus. There's a lot of music, cinematic productions, six seasons, but yes, his signature stunt was the walking on water. 

And then he, well, he hung himself from fish. 

How did he do it? Did they ever find out how he did it? 

No, but there would have been something, you know. They don't, they never reveal their secrets unless you then watch the shows of, what are those other shows where it's like, magic revealed. And I'm like, I'm ******* not doing that. I'm not sitting through that. 

I don't even like the real thing. I don't even see the real. 

And then I was like, he's got to wear a mask because the guild of magician could come after him. Yes. Yeah. 

Criss Angel. 

Criss Angel and his cronies are knocked on the door and be like, I think you're giving away a few secrets there, Mr. Magic revealed, dude. Not okay. I don't want people to know how I walk on water. 

I remember the fish hook one. That was gross. 

That was disgusting. 8 fish hooks through his back. It was a suspension thing. I remember that one. 

Yeah, it was horrible. 

Yeah, but I mean, that's hardly an illusion. No trick. He broke a record for that though. 

And he set himself on fire. 

Yeah, he did. The fire one was actually pretty. 

The other one I remember was the straitjacket. And I think he was in it, he had to escape from a straitjacket, but he had to do it in a certain amount of time or something would happen. 

Yeah. 

I think he did one under the water. 

Yes. 

He's done a straight jacket under the water and I think he did one when he was hanging above the ground. 

Right. Yeah. I mean. 

Yuck. 

Yeah, maybe he did one when he was in a straight jacket on fire. 

Buried Alive, that was my nightmare as a kid, along with, you know, like being worried about the Bermuda Triangle and, you know, quicksand and the triads. Buried Alive was up there with that as well, because I saw that on the Knight Rider episode. 

He took. 

And he did that. 

Well, he took a lot of inspiration from the great Harry Rider and the great Harry Hood Hasselhoff and Houdini. I mean, what a combination. Yeah, that's right. The big H's. I think though, a lot of the other magicians, he was quite maligned. He was probably like put in the same category as the masked magician who's given all the secrets away. Because they were like, I mean, the lay person was like, it's just camera tricks. And then the actual magic community were like, well, he's editing stuff too much and he's cutting it all too much. 

And it's all just... Yeah, it's editing. 

I mean, that's called, that's called movie making. You're ruining the crafts. Oh, look, he's flying. And then all of a sudden the green screen turns off and he's like, whoops, you know? 

Hey, you know that, like speaking of like the flying and the walking on water. 

Yeah. 

You know the silver guy down at Sydney Harbour that's levitating. How the hell does he do that? 

The cane and the levitation. 

How does he do that? I've been wondering about that for a long time. 

I'm telling you right now that you're a, I think you're a Google search away from enlightenment. 

Yeah, I probably should have just done that. 

It's just like. 

I have been thinking about that guy since we were last in Sydney. Yeah, do it right now. 

How does the levitating silver guy stay levitating while busking? 

Okay, hang on. 

Well, just Google levitating busker trick. That's what you need to do. 

Silver guy. 

Next week on Mind Freak. 

How does a silver man statue float? That's far more eloquent than what I would have answered. 

Is that what they, is that what it auto feels like? 

A hitting mechanical rig rather than magic. Oh, okay, I really thought it was magic. That's a shame. 

It's elaborate and expensive. 

He sits on a concealed, okay, sorry, people fast forward if you don't want this ruined. 

Yeah, no, come on, just enlighten us. 

He sits on a concealed metal seat attached to a sturdy metal framework. The support arm travels down the sleeve. or the back and anchors to a heavy steel plate hidden under the pavement or the carpet. 

Right. 

Oh, so it's going through the arm? 

Oh, there you go. 

But then how does it... I still don't quite... I think I need a diagram. 

Well, we'll go to Bunnings and we'll build you one. 

Maybe if I Google image search it? 

Yeah. No, I've lost interest now. 

Oh. There we go. There's someone ruining the trick. 

Oh, wow. Give me a look. 

It's just like a lever. 

Oh, it's just, yeah, and you just, well, that's lame, isn't it? 

Okay, well, there you go. 

I mean, you know, it'd be far more impressive if somebody just walked up to him with a leper colony and went, hey, heal the sick, buddy. Let's go. Sorry, that's, I mean, you can't expect magicians to work miracles, can you really? It's not, that's not fair. That's not fair. 

I probably appreciate magic more. 

Have you seen that show? I mean, if there's anyone that's got a God complex, it's ******* Chris Angel. All right, let's go over to something that, a TV show that I think is God, Playschool. 40 years, 40 years of Playschool in 2006 on the 18th of July. That means it's 60 this year. 40 years. Australia's longest running television program, Long May It Continue, 40th birthday in 2006, entertaining generations of Australian kids, first aired on the 18th of July 1966, produced by the ABC, inspired by the BBC, famous for Windows, toy songs and that gentle education. It is an institution in this country. 

Toilet rolls. 

And just all sorts of things. Toilet rolls, pipe cleaners. Pipe cleaners. Never knew what a pipe cleaner was until I saw play school. Learned something there. 

Plastic cups. 

Yeah. 

With strings. 

Big Ted, Little Ted, Jemima Humpty. Genuine cultural icons in this country. Every child had a favorite window. What was yours? 

Arch. 

The arch. I was an arch guy too. 

Yeah, I feel like if you're any other window, you're a knob. 

I think that's why we're getting... Well, no, you can't be... That's what they used to open the door. 

That must be why we're together though, because if you just said square then I probably would have been divorced. 

You wouldn't be into it. Yeah, I know. 

In 1966, Australian children, maybe even your parents, switched on the old black and white television to a new program. John Hamlin was one of the first presenters. He may look familiar. He worked on the show for almost 30 years. 

I'd seen it in England. I didn't like it. I mean, I don't know how anyone could really go along and say, Hello, I'm John. Let's look in the useful box and play with our balls. 

He was cheeky. He was cheeky John. My dad used to be like... Yeah, something about him, because he'd always make jokes. when they'd like, I think it was Benita. Benita was doing a handstand and did the splits and John poked his head through her split legs and made some comment. I can't, like, did a peek-a-boo or something. 

Teeky John used to have a pretty good time at playing school. And I can remember, I can actually remember watching. 

Him at the time. 

There was two Johns though. 

Yeah, there was a serious John. 

Well, there was a John and then there was Dawn as well. But you remember the other week I was saying how you can kind of be dated with your age as to what neighbours characters you grew up with. It's the same with Play School Presenters. 

Who were the presenters? 

Same deal. And John Hamblin was definitely the best of the best. Yes, But I mean, we've also had people like Alex Pappas on there. 

Oh, yes. He was on there from Henderson. 

Jayla Guy has been on there. 

Yes. 

I mean, there's some. 

Hamish has done a stint on there. They get a lot of celebrities doing a couple of eps. 

They have had the odd celebrity episode, but I mean, you just can't beat at its core play school for what it is. It was really lovely, actually, when our son was old enough to sort of watch, he was in the play school age range, to go back to play school and watch play school as an adult. It's just still something that is so comforting in that show. 

And it just feels so stripped back, but just so wholesome when you compare it to the other kids' programming that's out there now. A lot of it is just so loud and busy and colourful. And there's just something really nice and comforting about Play School. 

Yeah, and I loved, my favourite thing was the fact that there was a live piano player there. 

Yeah, that's right. 

So they'd just be offset and all of a sudden they just, the piano would chime up. up and they'd start singing songs. Yeah, Like, I'm A flippy floppy scarecrow with my flippy floppy hat. 

Oh, yes. I think one of the big ones when our son started watching it was the happy dog. I'm a happy dog. 

Yes, the happy dog song. Like, what about everybody do this, do this, do this, everybody do this, just like me? 

Yes. 

There is some powerful lyrics there, right? If only, if only you could run the country like that. Prime Minister stands out, everybody do this, do this. Yeah, no. Let's do this, the hatches, matches and dispatches clue. This week we've got a celebrity having a birthday. You said this. 

I think that I just have to understand that my fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I just want to keep doing that. And I just hope to get better, hope to get smarter, I hope to become stronger and be a great person. 

Quite the fan. If you said Selena Gomez. 

Gosh, I love her voice. There's something about her voice that I just really love. It's beautiful. Beautiful sound, her voice. It's so unique, but I love it. 2006 is where I think it all started for her or getting very close to it. She's 14 years at that point in time. Obviously celebrating her birthday on the 22nd of July. Living with her mum after her parents divorced and And she'd been acting for several years. She started on Barney and Friends. 

Yeah, with Demi Lovato. 

Demi Lovato. 

Her bestie. 

And in 2006, Disney first starts to notice her. She guest stars as Gwen in The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. 

Yep. 

Filmed pilots for other Disney projects, which ultimately weren't picked up, but was starting to build a reputation as a promising up-and-comer in the Disney world. And her first on-screen kiss happened while filming The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. 

Yes, but it was with the wrong guy. She had a crush on that guy's twin brother. And so that was actually, quote unquote, the worst day of her life at the time. I think she called it. 

Late 2006, she auditioned for what would become her breakthrough role, Alex Russo, in The Wizards of Waverley Place, which then premieres in 2007 and completely changes her life. Within a couple of years, one of Disney's biggest stars, goes on to launch a music career, stars in movies, global teen idol. And unlike some Disney stars who kind of had a hard time growing up in the spotlight, she built a really incredible, diverse career. Get to head on straight, very successful. We didn't see I think we saw. 

A little bit, but she was pretty in control. She had issues, but she was quite open about a lot of the issues that she experienced and she had. And I think that just kind of framed her as more of a role model than anything. Yeah. 

Actor, producer. 

I love, yeah, there's my, I guess, the experience of Selena Gomez is mainly through Only Murders in the Building. 

Love her in that. 

Which she's great in. 

So good. 

Yeah. 

Founded a beauty company, Rare Beauty, and major mental health advocate after speaking openly about her anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, and Lupus was very sick and had that, was it a kidney transplant? 

Yes. 

A few years ago. And then obviously everybody's so interested in her relationships over the years, went out with one of the Jonas's. Justin Bieber's probably the biggest ex. 

Yeah. 

They were together. 

I feel like that would have been difficult. I mean, poor old Bieber. He's just, he's not in a good way. But you can see why. And I mean, she got kind of pulled into that vortex when she was with him. 

Yeah. Went out with The Weeknd. But now, recently, recently married. 

That's an interesting one, isn't it? 

Benny Blanco. 

I imagine, I mean, her parents are divorced. What's your name, buddy? The Weeknd. 

Without the E. The Weeknd. 

The Weeknd. So what should I call you? Weekend. The. Week. Weeky. Do you know what I mean? It's just silly. It's silly. 

It's very silly. 

I'm going to call myself the weekend. Okay, cool. I can't wait for the weekend to go away. Awesome. Oh, yes, she got engaged. She said all of that. 

Well, they married, didn't they? I feel like they married recently. 

I guess anyway. 

Or they're about to marry. Well, there's something about a wedding recently. 

Hopefully you bought us something nice for a birthday, but that's it. That's the end of the show. We are done for this week. And of course, we will be back next week with more fun and frivolity and things that happened this week 20 years ago on T-minus 20. You can find us on the socials, Facebook, Instagram, and to a lesser extent, TikTok. You just search for T-minus 20 podcast. Got anything loaded in the canon for next week, Mel, or are we spent? 

In the canon. Wow, that's dramatic, isn't it? 

Spelled C-A-N-O-N. 

What week are we? The 25th of... No, that's June. We're in July, aren't we? 23rd to the 29th, probably. 

Yeah, that'll be it. 

Oh! Someone wanted to use recycled sewerage as a source of drinking water in Queensland. Remember that? 

I remember that. 

Remember when I'm talking about that? was such a big moment in Australia. 

I can't wait to look for that because I guarantee you. 

Drinking water. 

We'll see you. I'm going to start. I didn't want to do any videos this week, but next week we might have to because I'm sure there'll be some footage of some **** head going, oh, you can drink it and knocking one back. 

I remember it. They did. They absolutely did. And Stephanie McIntosh from Neighbours releases a single. Remember that. 

No. 

She was a Scully, wasn't she? 

Was she one of the Scullys? Steph McIntosh. 

Was she Flick? 

Yeah, possibly. 

Some Scully, but she makes a song, yes. 

Good for her. 

That's all I've got at this stage. But look, I feel like that's enough. Maybe an innovation. Maybe something else from the Innovations Catalogue? 

We'll get to work. We'll get to work. We'll find something good for you, hopefully. Thanks for your support though. And we will see you next week. Make sure you tell your friends to get them to download some of this stuff. See you next week. Bye. 

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